Just an awesome video. Thank you. I am doing my first breather box on a 2005 2.5T AWD. My family says I should get a new car, but there is no chance! Over the last couple of years, I rebuilt the entire front end, replaced the timing belt and all seals. Now the breather box. I am looking forward to my next project. BTW, my wife agreed to let me buy a lift with the savings!🙂😎
Added a catch can between the box and the intake on my stock 850 last summer when servicing the pcv and there is sooo much stuff getting caught in it!! Really works!!
Thank you very much! Perfect timing for posting this. Building a 250-300 hp RN motor that will get beat on in my 1979 RX7 rally car and was just about to order all the parts to refresh it and solve issues like this
I love how much effort and knowledge you put into your videos! Can't wait to start on mine. For the Q&A: how much would you estimate that you've spent on the build? Plans for bigger numbers or is 700whp the most it'll make for a while?
Glad to see how much your channel is growing. Didn’t expect to ever see a Robert diy comment lol. Thanks for this info tho. It’s been on my mind since I got into volvos. I had no idea you could use an rn style vent box on an older 850 engine.
Those boxes are pa6-gf i think which is basically glass fiber reinforced nylon. I like loctite 577 for thread sealant. Thats what I use on the flywheel bolts and my air compressor connections, and whatever else, works great. Interesting I have been making basically the same exact setup at you are doing.
Perfect timing for this video, Matt. I just blew a cam seal due to excess crankcase pressure. Over 400 bhp on my current build. Going to step up to most of this guidance. Thanks.
Thanks for the tutorial, I was really happy to see your setup is almost exactly what I'm planning. That square gas connection will solve my problem of connecting a 1 inch hose to the breather box. Thanks!
Yeah so my setup before was literally exactly the same except I was using the N box. It worked really well for 700whp+ saw about 0.5 psi crankcase pressure.
Did the glove test on my free 98 volvo s70 after smelling burning oil from the cylinder head leaking on the turbo the top of the cylinder was flooded with oil. And saw how much work it was to fix it. So I removed the dipstick and shoved a rubber hose tight into the dipstick tube and made a catch can, and located it in front of the battery. I cleaned the oil from on top of the cylinder head. And drove the car over 1000 miles on short and long trips and no more oil leaking on the cylinder head. And the catch can had a tiny smear of oil in it with mostly water condensation.Maybe 2 ounces total so far. Works great. I'm a cheapskate and this was just a experiment. But it worked for me. Not sure if this will hurt the car. But It's a cheap easy solution. The catch can I used is made from a glass pickle jar and has a small fuel filter to vent out . So the pressure in the crankcase won't puke out oil. Luckily the oil from the crankcase has difficulty climbing up the dipstick tube. Yay! Remember this was my experience. It worked for me. It might work on your car but every car has different problems and might not work for you.
I have a question: Does a breather box larger than original one lower fuel economy? I was told that would cause a 'service engine' message to come up - thanks for sharing your knowledge.
So you do you just blank / get rid of the banjo connection on the intake manifold and plug the coolant circuit that keeps the standard hard pipe warm? Would make sense in that the banjo fitting is only to pull vacuum under light / no load but I’m not sure if I’m misunderstanding.
"The bigger the gob the better the job". I have always wonder about modifying the crankcase ventilation for the Volvos PCV systems. Thanks and good luck.
Awesome!! only thing im not currently doing for the under 400hp is rn box. I couldnt fit it under my manifold even with snabb spacer and Didnt want to modify box. I am using 5/8 hose to mishimoto baffled can to rn ptc with the larger hole and relocated the vaccum draw to the old fuel regulator vaccum/moisture pull port on fresh air pipe. I originally did use a Volvo p1800 vented oil cap to catch can and never had issue pulling oil, but i Didnt keep that setup for very long. Some day ill eliminate the ptc all together.
Great video; I have quietly hung around for a couple years now and watched in awe of what you have done with the 850 turbo motor. I don't have any vids posted other than car audio, but I have been the happy owner of various Volvos for about 13 years. I have often thought the PCV system on the white block was a decently bad design because of how it routes back into the turbo intake. My DD is a '97 850R. The PCV system was okay until I upgraded to a 19T turbo running 15 psi. I guess with the higher air volume it would siphon much larger amounts of oil and burn it off. I was adding about a quart of oil every 750 miles or so. I disconnected the PCV hose going to the turbo intake pipe and vented it to atmosphere. Yup it stinks and gives off a little smoke, but the oil consumption has dropped down to hardly any compared to what it once was.
Yeah the 850 PCV box has pretty poor baffling so a lot of it makes it into the intake tube. The newer S60R version fixes that and adds a lot more baffling. Also sometimes adding a catch can between the PCV box and the intake tube helps... however vent atmosphere is just a lot easier sometimes.
Goop it up goop it up goop it uuuuup! Ha ha... For once i am painfully familiar with something you are doing... Awesome as always... Nice change of pace with the more informational vid
I'm still trying to find a way to remove or bypass the P1 diaphragm PCV system. I have replacement rubbers but I'm planning on throwing a GTX28 on it later and don't trust it personally.
Pipe 2 must be kept or you will not have much vacuum pull on the crankcase at idle. The ONLY thing you should do is plumb a catch can in between the main PCV pipe for under 400hp. Of course you can make that line bigger too.
Great setup on the PCV there. I have same mods, but my catch can is down low behind the driver's side fog lamp where the charcoal box typically goes on some cars. Off topic...but have you considered looking into direct-port and/or post intercooler water-meth injection?
With E85 I haven't found a reason to use any type of water/meth injection. I can push the car WELL beyond MBT without knock and my IATs haven't been high enough (130F-150F on 700whp run) to justify it.
@@SimplyVolvo That makes perfect sense! I just remembered that you're on E85 after the comment, but none the less it has a proven record on other fuels.
@@SimplyVolvoFor all those like me that don't have e85 readily available. Im running a 375cc wmi nozzle with -20 winter fluid. But also vp racing octanium. 32oz to 10 gallon of 93 claims 100 octane. Allowed me to run mbt on gasoline with zero knock at 23psi on a billet 22t with ported 7cm housing. Adds about $2/gallon of gas.
Kinda. In 2004+ on Rs Volvo started using the same casting for the P2 and P1s (RNCs). So its a RNC-prepped block without the machining for the RNC specific stuff.
That's what my 855r has works for me lol but the big hose from the bottom is difficult to get a hose to stay on.. that being said I taped mine and added a fitting works so far no leaks but a good deal catch can with a drain is a must. I can weld so I just made a custom one that fit near the firewall fender area.
I also weld some fittings my problem is that I make the glove test in the oil filler and I don't get vaccum.. I got a catch can with a line from block head cover and a drain to the block and a breather
Hey brother. You got me super inspired. would like to finish tuning my car and basically have a few questions. I can send you funds for the help. But simply put. I applied voltage to b8 and ecu wont enter boot mode. Im at a loss. Ecu is a na 98 v70 ecu. Says om the list this ecu does apply and is m4.4. Can you contact me? If not just let me know. Ive written messages and emails. Read all your posts. Amd am very close. Car has a custom turbo kit and i did Everything. Check my youtube for vids of me getting started. Also i tune hondas and fabricate. This would truely be great help. Happy to see you doing something unique and you seem to be the man.
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Just an awesome video. Thank you. I am doing my first breather box on a 2005 2.5T AWD. My family says I should get a new car, but there is no chance! Over the last couple of years, I rebuilt the entire front end, replaced the timing belt and all seals. Now the breather box. I am looking forward to my next project. BTW, my wife agreed to let me buy a lift with the savings!🙂😎
Awesome! Thanks for the tips. I don't understand where the turbo is draining back to???
The RNC-prepped blocks have a turbo drain location on the intermediate section. Thats where mine is draining to.
Added a catch can between the box and the intake on my stock 850 last summer when servicing the pcv and there is sooo much stuff getting caught in it!! Really works!!
Feel that
Thank you very much! Perfect timing for posting this. Building a 250-300 hp RN motor that will get beat on in my 1979 RX7 rally car and was just about to order all the parts to refresh it and solve issues like this
I love how much effort and knowledge you put into your videos! Can't wait to start on mine. For the Q&A: how much would you estimate that you've spent on the build? Plans for bigger numbers or is 700whp the most it'll make for a while?
great
you're a real white block expert now
thanks for your build advice
Thanks videos always good. Been messing with volvos for ten years now but I always learn something new everyday
Glad to see how much your channel is growing. Didn’t expect to ever see a Robert diy comment lol. Thanks for this info tho. It’s been on my mind since I got into volvos. I had no idea you could use an rn style vent box on an older 850 engine.
Welp.
Now I know which path to take.
I have been debating what to do about my PCV system.
Keep up the good vids!!!
Those boxes are pa6-gf i think which is basically glass fiber reinforced nylon. I like loctite 577 for thread sealant. Thats what I use on the flywheel bolts and my air compressor connections, and whatever else, works great.
Interesting I have been making basically the same exact setup at you are doing.
Awesome!! I can’t wait to replicate. I am having a ton of oil throughout my ic tubing pushing my maxed out 19t lol
Perfect timing for this video, Matt. I just blew a cam seal due to excess crankcase pressure. Over 400 bhp on my current build. Going to step up to most of this guidance. Thanks.
I blew my crankseal on the trans side.. clutch is fucked:( ordered a spec stage 3+ i believe along with getting this pcv setup
Thanks for the tutorial, I was really happy to see your setup is almost exactly what I'm planning. That square gas connection will solve my problem of connecting a 1 inch hose to the breather box. Thanks!
Yeah so my setup before was literally exactly the same except I was using the N box. It worked really well for 700whp+ saw about 0.5 psi crankcase pressure.
Did the glove test on my free 98 volvo s70 after smelling burning oil from the cylinder head leaking on the turbo the top of the cylinder was flooded with oil. And saw how much work it was to fix it. So I removed the dipstick and shoved a rubber hose tight into the dipstick tube and made a catch can, and located it in front of the battery. I cleaned the oil from on top of the cylinder head. And drove the car over 1000 miles on short and long trips and no more oil leaking on the cylinder head. And the catch can had a tiny smear of oil in it with mostly water condensation.Maybe 2 ounces total so far. Works great. I'm a cheapskate and this was just a experiment. But it worked for me. Not sure if this will hurt the car. But It's a cheap easy solution. The catch can I used is made from a glass pickle jar and has a small fuel filter to vent out . So the pressure in the crankcase won't puke out oil. Luckily the oil from the crankcase has difficulty climbing up the dipstick tube. Yay! Remember this was my experience. It worked for me. It might work on your car but every car has different problems and might not work for you.
I have a question: Does a breather box larger than original one lower fuel economy? I was told that would cause a 'service engine' message to come up - thanks for sharing your knowledge.
So you do you just blank / get rid of the banjo connection on the intake manifold and plug the coolant circuit that keeps the standard hard pipe warm?
Would make sense in that the banjo fitting is only to pull vacuum under light / no load but I’m not sure if I’m misunderstanding.
"The bigger the gob the better the job". I have always wonder about modifying the crankcase ventilation for the Volvos PCV systems. Thanks and good luck.
Awesome!! only thing im not currently doing for the under 400hp is rn box. I couldnt fit it under my manifold even with snabb spacer and Didnt want to modify box. I am using 5/8 hose to mishimoto baffled can to rn ptc with the larger hole and relocated the vaccum draw to the old fuel regulator vaccum/moisture pull port on fresh air pipe. I originally did use a Volvo p1800 vented oil cap to catch can and never had issue pulling oil, but i Didnt keep that setup for very long. Some day ill eliminate the ptc all together.
Oh man... another thing to add to the to-do list. Thanks for sharing! :)
Great video; I have quietly hung around for a couple years now and watched in awe of what you have done with the 850 turbo motor. I don't have any vids posted other than car audio, but I have been the happy owner of various Volvos for about 13 years. I have often thought the PCV system on the white block was a decently bad design because of how it routes back into the turbo intake. My DD is a '97 850R. The PCV system was okay until I upgraded to a 19T turbo running 15 psi. I guess with the higher air volume it would siphon much larger amounts of oil and burn it off. I was adding about a quart of oil every 750 miles or so. I disconnected the PCV hose going to the turbo intake pipe and vented it to atmosphere. Yup it stinks and gives off a little smoke, but the oil consumption has dropped down to hardly any compared to what it once was.
Yeah the 850 PCV box has pretty poor baffling so a lot of it makes it into the intake tube. The newer S60R version fixes that and adds a lot more baffling. Also sometimes adding a catch can between the PCV box and the intake tube helps... however vent atmosphere is just a lot easier sometimes.
Just bought the RNC oil separator.. It does NOT fit at all with the stock 850R manifold.. How is the barp moved in the picture from fcpeuro?
Great video my man, good info;)
Do you have a picture of this?
Goop it up goop it up goop it uuuuup! Ha ha... For once i am painfully familiar with something you are doing... Awesome as always... Nice change of pace with the more informational vid
How did you get the shavings out of the pcv after drilling?
What is the point of the oil air separator box, can’t you just connect a hose to the block and put a breather filter on the end of it
You can pull vacuum to the crank by putting a line inline to the exhaust it is an old hot rodder trick
Fcpeuro kit already has the new box in it
I'm still trying to find a way to remove or bypass the P1 diaphragm PCV system. I have replacement rubbers but I'm planning on throwing a GTX28 on it later and don't trust it personally.
great information matt, thanks
Great info, thanks!
What about pipe no 2 from 3:00 schema, its needed for something or can be omitted?
Pipe 2 must be kept or you will not have much vacuum pull on the crankcase at idle. The ONLY thing you should do is plumb a catch can in between the main PCV pipe for under 400hp. Of course you can make that line bigger too.
This was super helpful
Great setup on the PCV there. I have same mods, but my catch can is down low behind the driver's side fog lamp where the charcoal box typically goes on some cars. Off topic...but have you considered looking into direct-port and/or post intercooler water-meth injection?
With E85 I haven't found a reason to use any type of water/meth injection. I can push the car WELL beyond MBT without knock and my IATs haven't been high enough (130F-150F on 700whp run) to justify it.
@@SimplyVolvo That makes perfect sense! I just remembered that you're on E85 after the comment, but none the less it has a proven record on other fuels.
@@LordTominator On gasoline I would totally recommend it post intercooler! Basically can tune it as if you were running E85.
@@SimplyVolvoFor all those like me that don't have e85 readily available. Im running a 375cc wmi nozzle with -20 winter fluid. But also vp racing octanium. 32oz to 10 gallon of 93 claims 100 octane. Allowed me to run mbt on gasoline with zero knock at 23psi on a billet 22t with ported 7cm housing. Adds about $2/gallon of gas.
Hi there, how much are the volsquirt ecu including delivery to UK? I have a 850 t5r manual cheers
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Would it be possible to just eliminate the pcv all together, and go straight to a catch can?
Thats what i have done. On the side vent i put a breather filter. Still leak oil from fill cap with new seal 😂
Isn't "RNC" the blocks for P1/P3 models that wouldnt fit a P80?
Kinda. In 2004+ on Rs Volvo started using the same casting for the P2 and P1s (RNCs). So its a RNC-prepped block without the machining for the RNC specific stuff.
@@SimplyVolvo ok that makes sense, my 05 block had a much larger main vent port
Cool video, your 850 is absolutely bonkers. Silly question, what is the purpose of the double oil filler caps? Also, got a full build sheet anywhere?
I use the dual filler caps to time my cams with a dial gauge indicator on the lifter.
can i delete all the pcv system and just vent the block and head trough a catch can?
That's what my 855r has works for me lol but the big hose from the bottom is difficult to get a hose to stay on.. that being said I taped mine and added a fitting works so far no leaks but a good deal catch can with a drain is a must. I can weld so I just made a custom one that fit near the firewall fender area.
I also weld some fittings my problem is that I make the glove test in the oil filler and I don't get vaccum.. I got a catch can with a line from block head cover and a drain to the block and a breather
Hi, I have some questions as I have added an external catch can. Are you on any other social that I could private message you on??
Hey brother. You got me super inspired. would like to finish tuning my car and basically have a few questions. I can send you funds for the help. But simply put. I applied voltage to b8 and ecu wont enter boot mode. Im at a loss. Ecu is a na 98 v70 ecu. Says om the list this ecu does apply and is m4.4. Can you contact me? If not just let me know. Ive written messages and emails. Read all your posts. Amd am very close. Car has a custom turbo kit and i did Everything. Check my youtube for vids of me getting started. Also i tune hondas and fabricate. This would truely be great help. Happy to see you doing something unique and you seem to be the man.