The Secrets of Elite College Admissions (MUST WATCH)
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The Secrets of Elite College Admissions. We go over a Wall Street Journal article titled "The Secrets of Elite College Admissions: In the final ‘shaping’ of an incoming class, academic standards give way to other, more ambiguous factors." The article goes in detail about the college admissions process at top colleges, including Emory University. The author, Jeffrey Selingo, goes inside the admissions office to see what the admissions process looks like at elite colleges. How to get into top schools, how to get into top colleges, inside the admissions office, behind the scenes.
Article link: www.wsj.com/articles/the-secr...
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Honestly, it put me into relief knowing how random it is. It makes me not question my self worth.
He pointed out how NOT random it is.
Basically they decide based on relational politics.
@Kashton Dominik It costs a load of money and it doesn't work, spamming trolls.
You should be ashamed of yourself for those 2 things and for being a creep.
@@anonymousincognito7831 d.
The randomness of the process is the reason for so many applications by each applicant.
Yep. That’s why I’m applying to 21!
A friend of mine got rejected by U of Michigan (out of state), Northwestern, and Duke; however, he got into MIT.
For real bro?
A friends kid got rejected by Duke even though the parent was an alum (legacy) yet got into Princeton. True that it's random. But legacy helps as does the ability to pay full fare, even though they say they're need blind (they're not).
the number of dislikes is the number of those admission officers being exposed lol
Rejected from Swarthmore, UMich, Vanderbilt, WashU, and so many more…not even a waitlist, but accepted by Yale on the last day. Yes, randomness is a huge factor and that’s why we apply to so many schools.
i actually read this in a book! it's called "who gets in and why" by jeffrey selingo
Where did you get it??
@@kiky.mp4 amazon! just search the title and author and it should show up :)
@@kimberly-qp3qi how was the book ?
me: is reading the "who gets in and why" by jeffrey selingo
also me: can't figure out where i heard jeffrey selingo before
Such a great article! One of the best videos I have seen so far on this topic.
This was lowkey very informational, and fun to watch. Thanks!!
well made video.. definitely eye opening
So much new information. Thank u so much!!!
is true, not only with college admissions... basically with everything in life, the more elite the group is, the more they look into your overall life potential, isn't life exciting?
How on earth do these admission officers manually handle 30,000 applications in a college?
I can't imagine that there are 100s of such officers in a college.
It's impossible unless they use some computer algorithm to filter out most of the applications.
That’s nothing. UC Berkeley received over 112,000 applications last yr.
@@bpxl53yewz29 why is that 20 years later more people are applying than back in 2002.
I am surprised about this development within our school setting.
In Africa we need more graduates to try their luck in 2022.
@@bpxl53yewz29 UC Berkeley Is an evil School for the year 2020.
I am in favour of Gh and African universities despite our many problems especially infrastructure of dorm Rooms and classrooms ou there
from what i've heard, a lot of students are rejected automatically for not making an academic cutoff.
What he says at 10:10 and so on, is too true.
It’s mostly money. They will pick the students who can pay full or near full tuition, with some token disadvantaged students to say “Look! We’re diverse!”
As much as it is difficult to accept a three hour test can be do or die, the ACT/SAT is the only objective measure.
GPA, Class Rank, and Courseload are objective as well; they’re all easily quantifiable?
@@YTAccount82825 GPA is not objective. Feeder schools make it easy to get a higher GPA.
Class rank too; competitive vs non-competitive schools. Some schools do not offer any AP classes
@@gertal2764
That’s exactly why GPA’s are recalculated at most colleges, to standardize the process.
@@YTAccount82825 ?? That doesn't change the fact that some private high schools have grade inflation. It isn't fair to students like me where their schools has a grade deflation.
True, there is a subjective component. But don’t confuse subjectivity with randomness. They are not the same. It isn’t accurate to say the process is random.
Me who got in ED 1 to my top school: May God help you dear fellow applicants
Same, where did you ED to?
@@aidanz6350 Colgate University
Hey can you tell if you applied for financial aid and if yes, how much?
@@prabhatdatre9888 U applying to Colgate?
@@ccclord6235 I am thinking of applying but am worried they might reject me after looking at my expected contribution
watching this while waiting for my harvard rejection
May you get what’s best for you brother
Good Luck broo
i have faith in u
did u get in?
@@UnpleasantlyPeasantly nah i didnt, but the college i go to now has been perfect for me. i’m happier here than i would be in any ivy league
@@ivy8606 I'm glad you're happy!
The AP Exam in my are are cancelled, can I do CLEP instead? Would admission people consider it?
Who says they are canceled? ...asking for... me :)
I also run my channel of college admissions tips! Great video!
Think money still dominates over pretty much all other factors
100%
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excellent
I thought you might have a thought about this. Thank you in advance.
Would my son taking a gap year in China improve his chances of getting into Harvard (Yale, Princeton, Stanford and MIT)? Assume that he is a National Merit Scholarship semi-finalist, 1560 SAT, has an unweighted 4.0, scored 5s on Italian, Chinese, Calculus AB and BC, Calc Physics, Chemistry, and more, holds several swimming records at his high school, had a job teaching swimming year round, and has numerous completely outstanding letters of recommendation. However, he is male, obviously, and white and affluent. With zero diversity, and not a good enough athlete for DI, not wealthy nor famous/well-connected, I think he needs to take the road less traveled, so to speak, to be admitted to these five, and show that he is willing to go the extra mile. Would being genuinely conversational in Chinese from a gap year over there serve that purpose? That would be his ace in the hole, his hook, something that would make him stand out/overcome his immutable traits and being from a highly supportive, both time and money, family.
It sounds like your son is very accomplished. Based on what you're telling me, he has a shot at the top schools. He should only take the gap year if that is truly what is wants to do. Do not do it just for the hope of increasing his chances of admission. If you'd like to discuss this further, you may check the link in the video description to sign up for a free consultation with our team.
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That’s what I told him. Don’t go over there for anything besides that experience. But the decision to go strikes me as gutsy because you’re suddenly immersed. We aren’t talking about hanging out with other Americans in China. We’re talking what my son experienced when we went to live in Italy when he was seven. He attended the local school, the only American they’d ever had, for three years, starting without knowing a word of Italian!
He will have seven years of classroom Chinese when he goes, if he does, so a year would see him highly conversational from total immersion. I see being highly conversant, for having had the courage to leave the country and completely immerse yourself for a year, as really extraordinary. That’s why I thought it might set him apart, make people forget that he doesn’t have a ‘story’, not homeless, not underprivileged, not underrepresented, not first to college, etc.
I’ll show your offer to my son. I’m sure he’ll contact you at some point.
Hey can you please update us? How did it go for him? I hope he got accepted in all of them
May I know in which college are you??
Halemouth
I wasn't going to click until I saw the (MUST WATCH)
This is here "luck" comes into light.
Vanderbilt University is actually ranked higher and harder to get into than some of the Ivy League schools.
It’s easy. 1. Get born into a rich family. 2. Have said family donate $2 million to the elite college of your choice.
In a nutshell, the admission process is very unfair.
Had to use my first and only dislike on this video. The admissions process is not unfair its trying to weed out people who try to game the system since any purely objective admissions process will also not give underprivileged people an opportunity since you have to compare one's achievements respective to their peers. I have a learning disability, how would a purely objective system account for that?
Yes and no. A purely objective standpoint would put many ideas tanged students in the same cycle of misery their whole lives. While incredibly qualified students can be denied because they aren’t unique. So it’s not unfair, it’s a mix between both
No
I dont see it as unfair at all. If they have 3 times the amount of qualified applicants than spots, they're going to have to make cuts somehow
@@jaxinh.4399 I agree, I wouldn't use the term "unfair". I would call the admissions process "random" and "unpredictable", which are the words I used in the video. "Unfair" is itself a subjective term.
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What if you have a associates without finishing high school or GED? Will they admit you
not only it is not objective!! it's completely random! its a lottery!!
your background music is annoying!!!
I got into all of the ivy's, Stanford, MIT, UCLA, Berkeley but I couldn't pay so I ended up having to go to Peking uno
Harvard and a few others are 100% merit based financial aid meaning they will cover all demonstrated need to accepted applicants. Do you happen to be international I’m not sure if you would qualify but if you were admitted to (every ivy) you should’ve had your aid covered.
@@lotstosay6359 I'm from Australia so yeah
@@indiantechbro Schools are weird, for US students they are "need blind" and meet 100% of demonstrated need, but suddenly, for international students, they are only "need aware" and will often times reject middle class students applying for financial aid. If a middle class student qualifies for 10k of aid, then that brings down their statistic "average aid package for international students is 60k," so instead they reject you
@@indiantechbro international students can still get full financial aid in Harvard though. In the application process it is asked if you need financial aid.
ABOLISH legacy admissions. And RACE BASED admissions.
yeah that is highly unlikely to come to fruition, terminally
@@jensonphan It is the policy at Texas A&M, as well as the UC system in California. No race based admissions and no Legacy. Hispanics surprised everyone and voted 50% against affirmative action at the public universities a couple years ago in referendum statewide despite massive campaign to get 10,000s of Asians out of freshmen classes.
If you don't like the school's policy pick another school there are millions of other schools stop complaining and pick another school sheesh🙄