Could THE PENGUIN show be one of the best shows of the year?! | Batman | DC
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Welcome back to the show! The Penguin trailer dropped and releases this year. It is the next chapter in Matt Reeve's Batman saga. It looks like a Sopranos show. good bad? Can it be one of the best of the year? Spiderman 4 is a highly anticipated film. What will the next Tom Holland movie be about? Will Miles be in it for sure? Will it be a multiverse movie? There are new reports that Sony and Marvel are arguing over what it is. The Crow trailer was highly disliked, why? Deadpool and Wolverine news. this and more on Capes and Cowls with Kristian, Coy and Winston.
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Literally just asked myself if there was a Capes & Cowls today. Thanks Harloff, Winston & Coy! Have a great weekend guys
Coy podcasting in another dimension today 😂
HBO knows how to tell a mob story…
I mean this is a max original not hbo, if we're getting technical.
Let me correct that for you bro. "HBO knows how to tell a story"
Kristian, if you’re moving to NY and going to be doing virtual shows more often use some of my patreon money to get Coy a mic that doesn’t sound like he’s underwater 🤪
His prob got both his headset and camera microphones turned on.😂 He just needs to turn the camera microphone off.
I’ve don’t that during a few zoom meetings
Colin was amazing in The Gentlemen, and he was great in Saving Mr Banks, The Batman, Phone Booth, The Killing of a Sacred Deer. He’s been killing it.
The Lobster, Seven Psychopaths as well! He just needs good material.
Why don't they follow the Sony videogame route, where they introduce Miles Morales before he gets the powers, and Miles and Peter become friends. Then when Miles does get powers, Peter becomes his mentor. Then in another movie, they can team up, and then either at the end of the second or third movie, Peter gets seriously wounded, and is out of action, forcing Miles to take up the mantle of Spider-Man. I don't think you need to kill Peter, just force him to take a backseat, then in the next movie, you call it Miles Morales: Spider-Man. There is no reason to rush things.
Yesss! I was looking for today’s episode. THIS show is what I wait for on Fridays. Thank you Kristian, Winston and Coy for this amazing show!
Kevin Feige and Sony's executives clashing over the shared custody of Spider-Man is nothing new. 😂
I don’t think people need to be offended by The Crow reboot. Wait until you’ve seen the movie, then judge it. The original version still exists. The new movie doesn’t crap on the original, it’s just a different take on the characters and the story. I still don’t like the way the character looks, because in my mind, they captured the look of Eric Draven so perfectly with Brandon Lee, especially with the face paint, that I’m confused that they would change the look and the character so much. I get that people don’t want to copy and paste, and want to put their own spin on something, but this is based on a comic book/graphic novel, where the look of the character is very specific. Can you imagine if they changed the way Batman looked, where he looked more like The Punisher. I’m not angry about it, just confused as to why they changed things so much.
They should of picked a different host . No need to go different with the most beloved crow when it's a legacy character.
I see a ton of movies, generally 2 every week. In the theater. This week it's been 3. Not once have I seen the Deadpool trailer in theaters, that's so odd!! I've only seen it online
7:26 “they didn’t cast just a fatty “ damn that was so casually cruel and unlike Coy. but I do agree Colin Farrell is the perfect choice for the role and the makeup is unreal
Yeah I agree he didn't have to say it like that.
"Have ya seen Madame Web?" LMFAO TALK TO EM KRISTIAN!
Man i really hope the audio isn't like this when you move back to New York
Coy is trapped in the Phantom Zone!
my main problem is that's it's Eric, could have easily renamed him and mention Eric as another old Crow
This I completely understand and agree with
I completely agree. Eric Draven only appeared in the first movie and each sequel had a different main character. If they had done that I wouldn't have any complaints.
The core part of Eric Draven that makes it all work is that he's warm, charming, and funny. I do NOT see that in the new trailer.
Don't really understand the hate for The Crow trailer. I think it looks interesting and I'm willing to give it a shot
THANKS for this!!! It looks to me like the Crow hate is about not just doing a new story.
Oh, man, that spot at the beginning threw me for a loop. I thought we weren’t going to get Coy today and Winston was in studio. Tricksy Kristian! 😝
Great show, as usual fellas. A constant staple of my weekend You Tube watching.
I definitely miss the gothic art direction of the original Crow. I think that's a huge part of what made that movie iconic. I rewatched it recently and you can see the influence it had on a lot of future comicbook movies. For me what disappointed and surprised me more about the trailer though was that it seemed to stray even farther from the original comic. The original had the essence of the comic, but changed quite a few plot points, and the only thing I thought made remaking it worth while was maybe doing a more faithful adaptation but it looks like they went in the opposite direction. Either way, I'm down to give it a shot. Even if it's not The Crow I love, it might still be a cool action movie.
I am so disappointed The Batman 2 is pushed an entire year but alternatively I am so hype for The Penguin to be this year!
In regards to The Crow trailer: I haven't seen the original, I have no attachment to the property, but the trailer didn't hit for me. It looked like a John Wick knock-off that was trying to hard to be edgy and dark. I like Bill Skarsgård as an actor (I'm excited to see him in Boy Kills World, much better trailer) but I hate his new Crow look. I heard someone compare it to the Florida Joker, and now that's all I can think about! 😆 I'm glad you guys liked the trailer, I hope I'm wrong and it's an incredible movie. I can't wait for your review!
per the new The Crow movie- I felt the 'how dare they do this' for Beetlejuice, but my love for the movie isn't going away just because there's something new.
I’ve seen Winston wearing it before, but really like that shirt he’s wearing.
I love you guys and appreciate what y’all do so much and will never stop watching. That being said; Coy, please find a different microphone solution for these type of shows. If you don’t, I’ll still tune in but it would be cool if you did. Thanks for doing what you guys do! Y’all
Rock 🤙
The Penguin is only adding to the year of 2024 of which I still believe will be a better year for television than it will be for film and that’s not to dog on film but I feel like that’s just the truth. I feel like we’re getting better television shows and more shows this year.
Absolutely
We still got a lot of great movies coming out this year this year imo.
@@Anthonycheesman33 I don’t disagree was just pointing it out
Man people loooooove to hate. The new Crow looks awesome. I was named after Brandon Lee. I loved the OG Crow and I thought I was sure to hate this new one but the trailer looks awesome. This isn’t the 90’s. Being goth isn’t like this prevalent thing so if he isn’t this super gothed out dude like the creator of the Crow comics, it doesn’t bother me. The only thing I would change about the new movie is I would give him white face paint. Thassit.
Yeah, I'm with you. I was shocked when I saw the hate out for the trailer. I guess we're in the minority somehow
@@bobsilentjay7611 Yeah it’s weird but I also have a hard time believing it’s genuine. I just think people see it as an easy target. I mean the original director talking crap like it’s somehow disrespectful to Brandon Lee’s legacy is ridiculous. Especially when Brandon Lee was killed on his set. I mean…😬🤷🏿♂️
@bamm86 - Yeah, I don't disagree with you at all. I've lost so much respect for Proyas. He's been acting like a petty tool during this whole process... and it's weird that nobody had a problem with all the shit sequels they pumped out since the original. Now it's sacrilegious to remake it with a different actor. Give me a break
What most people have a problem with is that the director has been saying this is going to be a more faithful adaptation of the comic, and it looks to have nothing in common with the comic except there using the names Eric and Shelly. Most people had a problem with the sequels because they suck if they just would have used different names for this movie I think most wouldn't care. Also he looks like a idiot with those dumb tattoos on his face and to me this looks like John Wick the crow edition nothing like the original.
I know some didn't like Gotham tv series the guy played Ozwald did great job and guy played Edward Enigma.
Dude I loved Gotham. Robin Lord Taylor and Cory Michael Smith are my favorite versions of Penguin and The Riddler.
Damn I thought Coy was getting a better mic?
Thinking Colin's going to get a best actor emmy nomination.
watch him accept it in full makeup and cigar 😂
Would be cool too see and episode in the show Batman take a change in fighting style maybe a hint of where he has been since the end of the first movie maybe Ra’s is a new friend of his and teaches him how to fight better or something
Wondering if The Batman allows The Penguin to rule the underworld as a "enemy you know" kind of deal. The penguin gets rid of other mob bosses and cleans up the streets of other crime rings. The Batman just keeps him in check.
It was the Crow sequels and tv show.. I think younger folks might like it but Brandon Lee is the Crow like Arnold is Conan. Good Show. Very Short but Good Show
I love Miles journey in the Spider-Verse films but I wouldn't mind not seeing him in live action until...maybe Spider-Man 6 at the EARLIEST! Now is when Peter (Tom) should be going to Columbia University and trying to find a job to make ends meet. He's in New York so have him run into Kate or something if they want a crossover. But better yet ...with MJ not knowing him, now would be a perfect time for Peter to meet Gwen and build something with them or even...🤞🏿🤞🏿🤞🏿...Felicia/Black Cat. She's definitely someone street level he can tussle with. There's so many people Peter can interact with now, instead of just rushing to Miles. Please do the right thing Sony. You already ruined my dream Felicia Hardy casting by casting Sydney in Madame Web 😒
@kristianHarloff you GOTTA watch Shogun. First ep is slow but at least get to ep 2 and you’ll see how good it is!
I would love a cat women hbo max series. They did gotham PD already. Cat women was one of the best parts of "The Batman'. Plus Zoe has the star power. She could go to bloodhaven and expand the Batman universe
Coy loves the word dichotomy....
AND DUALITY
Let’s hope so!
Tom Rothman single handedly destroyed X-Men at Fox with Last Stand and Wolverine Origins. Amy Pascal has single handedly been poisoning Spider-man for years and the disasters that are ASM 1 & 2 along with Morbius and Madame Web speak for themselves. The reason that the three MCU Spider-man films succeeded, especially No Way Home, is Kevin Feige. Let Feige cook. If you don’t, Pascal and Rothman will have ruined another Spider-man film and MCU film and that will set off the fans even more plus bring down the wrath of Bob Iger!
Thought this was gonna be live, kept checking all day for the notification.
from the trailer, i don't hate the new crow. it just doesn't feel like the crow. but maybe that's why all the sequels failed so much - they were all trying too hard to copy the original. the first one has a somber, poetic, dreamlike quality to it. brandon lee's portrayal was a soulful man who is pushed beyond the edge. the new one looks like it just wants to do a bunch of sick kills and was already mentally unstable to begin with
I loved the new crow trailer, people just can’t accept a different version than what they already have and I don’t understand it.
It's because the character Eric Draven and Brandon Lee mean so much to lots of people. So many grew up on the original and I'm happy you enjoyed the trailer but that trailer didn't look to be sticking to the comic like they have been promising and it's not following the original movie so why even use the names eric and shelly. This new movie the characters don't seem to be anything like the original comic or 90s movie so why not call them something else. It also seems like John Wick: the crow edition something the crow shouldn't be. Brandon Lee also died making the original, can people just let him have that movie, your never going to top it so why even attempt it.
A dream scene I want is The Penguin walking into or the show just showing the aftermath of what happens when Batman shows up.
That sounds awesome. If they don't do that, they missed a great opportunity.
Crow fans are being weird. There have been at least two meh or terrible sequels or reboots already so now that one that looks good appears NOW they wanna complain that we should leave the franchise alone?
Similar to people bitching about Roadhouse, as if there wasn’t some trash, straight to DVD sequel.
About AoS it’s being disproven more and more the show was not successful when it was ! More and more directors like the producers and show runners are saying how much the love AoS like the new DD series are saying that AoS was one their favorite pockets of the MCU and how they are in talks to bring it back even stronger than ever even at Sony they added a Quake Easter egg in Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse. AoS is literally the best structure of what the MCU should follow or should’ve been following for the MCU shows telling stories in other parts of the MCU and occasionally tie into the films … and it worked FOR 7 seasons
The Penguin looks good and the X-Men 97 premier was strong. I'm hopeful that comic book adaptations are back on the up swing.
Winston, you soft! Ya big softie! It’s too cold, pfft! 😂❤
Yeah, I am from the East Coast so 30 ish in MARCH is par for the course. That being said, I believe he is from TX and lives in Cali, so blustery EC weather is probably a shock to his system.
@@ronsworld250 Yeah, pretty sure he's from Texas, too (I think he goes back from time to time b/c that's where most of his dad's and his family are?) I just like to heckle people, it's what I do~
WOW 3 Body Problem on Netflix is AMAZING. When you see the ship you will know what I am talking about.
If Miles Brown is not Miles Morales I say we riot. The kid was born to play that role.
Iron Man was in it but Homecoming felt like neighborhood Spider-Man to me, it wasn't a massive world ending thing. But I'd love to see Spider-Man &other street heroes kick ass in New York
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I agree Winston. More Deadpool trailer reactions, he could react to moments from Oscars, he could react to trailers from the years since Deadpool 2 came out, he could react to Next goal wins a Movie by taika waititi… But not a thousand trailers please.
I am a big «three guys and one girl» fan so if Deadpool references a doctor named Berg that would be awsome.
Winston's reaction to that magen fox ninja turtles was my reaction. "Absolutely not" Then i saw the movie i was so heart broken. Felt like my high school crush left me
Did I miss it or did you guys not really go over the “Anchor Characters” in the MCU thing??
I felt like Homecoming was street level and self contained. It wasn't a world ending threat or even city ending. I may be wrong. Haven't watched it since it's release year
I think the new Crow looks fine? Don't quite get the hate. Certainly looks to be the best sequel in the series yet, at least.
The terrible crow sequels, had new characters taking on the mantel of playing the crow, they were not Eric Draven. There was an okay 90s tv show, staring Mark Dacascos who played Eric, but it kept in the same tone and vein as the original movie. Where as the new movie, is so different, they could have called it the crow, but had them as new characters, and people would feel far less offended. I will not watch be paying to see the new version in theaters, I'll wait to watch it free on streaming.
With the Crow, it seems to be just on Brandon's Eric character being used and not the film itself. As for the Director, should we bring up why he died making the film?
I wish the character had different name than Eric Draven in the new movie. Just like the sequels after the original 94. The Crow City of Angels and Salvation are 2 good sequels. The fourth one Wicked Prayer we don't talk about that pile of shit.
The Penguin looks awesome. It'll do a good job of tiding us over until Batman 2 comes out. I still don't understand why it was pushed so far out. I also think The Batman should've been the official start to the DCU. It would make total sense. As for Deadpool 3, that plot description makes me even more excited to see it. I have the same concerns about the trailer, but if Ryan Reynolds has any control over the marketing, I don't think we need to worry about it spoiling anything. The trailers for the other ones didn't show everything either. Also, I'm not surprised Tom Rothman is giving Kevin Feige a hard time. This goes back to what I'm always talking about. Rothman is utterly clueless when it comes to non-MCU Marvel franchises. Look how he handled the Foxverse as well as a lot movies when he ran 20th. He never learns. I'm amazed he keeps being put in charge of movie studios. As for The Crow, I've never seen the original, so I was indifferent to the trailer. I'll see both versions when the time comes and judge for myself.
Imagine a crow movie with Keanu Reeves….. 🤯
This is the problem with remaking this movie. You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. You won’t win. Even if it was perfect. People handle grief, and “their” movie differently. It’s too close to people’s hearts and it means too much.
It’s the human condition.
I'm picking shogun for tv show of 2024.
Definitely the best show this year so far
House of The Dragon says Hello 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hope they don't push Miles in Spiderman while Peter goes solo. Seem forced not earned and if it fails they'll blame Miles being in it like Richard Pryor in Superman 3 even if it gave us drunk Superman.
I'm new here, been watching for a about 2 weeks now and this is so much better than the Jon Campea show. I found out about him there but I think Kristian is such a great host. And I like how everyone speaks freely and has about the same amount of speaking time. Big Fan and I'm 100% subscribing.
Thank you for joining us and thanks for the kind words!
@@TheKristianHarloff Thank you for the great content ♥️
The only thing Sony has going for it is that Sony does side characters to mixed results at best; with that said Kevin Feigie is right. Penguin looks good, not watching any more Deadpool trailers but in there first day. Yeah The crow looks um unique but not a film for theaters; if you like it though it great.
I sent The Penguin trailer to my brother who loves The Sopranos and DOES NOT like comic book shows, and he immediately wanted to watch this.
The Penguin trailer looks great! I really hope the quality of the writing matches the well executed aesthetic. I thought The Batman looked incredible and the tone was just what I wanted but the story and writing was pretty bad. Optimistic for this though.
Apologies apologies.
Ah yes Winston with the bad takes
Yeah I tend to just watch Kristian and Coys parts of the conversation.
God damnit now I'm saying Kung poo
Penguin is gonna be dope! Sopranos meets Batman. I guess I’m in the minority I thought the Crow looked dope too…Crow was always emo looking to me, idk 🤷♂️
Colin Farrell is underrated b/c I think people think of those shitty action films he did when he was young, like SWAT, as opposed to his more recent work with guys like Yorgos or McDonagh, where he can flex his acting muscles instead.
Sony and Marvel also butt head with Sony wanting Tom Holland and Marvel wanting Asa Butterfield. And sure, Sony isn't on a roll with Madame Web and Morbius, but not having a Spider-Man is being dealt a losing hand, and it's not like the MCU is on a roll either. You can have a street level Spider-Man and the multiverse mixed in at the same time, we don't know what the script is and if Sony is gatekeeping that script, they must truly believe in it.
Goths everywhere are in uproar over the crow over the aesthetic. I think the dark aesthetic being removed is what people are most upset about. Not even the story.
I really don't know what Sony's issue is lately, but I don't trust them at all their trying to ruin Spider-man and the MCU'S plans and I really do want Spidey 4 to be more grounded we don't need to another multiversal Spidey movie and I really want them to take their time by making Spider-man 4 perfect not rushing it Sony is stupid for having Kevin Feige to rush production on the 4th movie and I think it's too early to have Miles show up in Spidey 4 I would much rather save him for the 6th installment. Sony is just making shit that no one asked for and their not listening to the audience and that's not good and I think that both Kraven and Venom 3 are going to bomb so bad the only thing that Sony has going good for them is Beyond the Spider-verse and that's about it I really do think that it's time for Kevin Feige and Bob Iger to make huge offer to buy all the rights to Spider-man so that they won't have any problems I just don't trust Sony at all they need to give up throw in the towel.
Does the ag1 work?
Very much so! I have been using it for almost 3 years now!
@@TheKristianHarloff gonna get some for my mom!
@@Sean-dp9zz Please come back and tell me how she enjoys it!
The penguin looks fantastic. But im tired of watching Batman shows without Batman to be honest.
I see that batman spin off
I so tried multi verses
Let’s hold on a gabagool freaking minute here everyone lol. I definitely think it can be one of the best shows this year unless daredevil born again is amazing I think it has a shot to her the best comic book show of the year .
Daredevil Born Again is not coming out this year.
I think I'll end up liking The Penguin more than The Batman.
I know it’s not comic related but maybe do some alien Romulus talk 👀👀
Kristian get haircut?
People are already talking about Batman showing up. Please stop. Everyone kept hyping up daredevil showing up in echo and were disappointed he only had one scene. Its the penguin's show. Lets enjoy that. Or not. Whatever 😂😂😂
I loved The Batman, but have zero interest in the Penguin. We’ve tried this Batman tv show without Batman a few times now, it doesn’t work
I loved the original Crow but I am with Coy, how dare the fans and even Proyas be all hot and bothered when those awful sequels were done. There wasn’t the uproar for those lousy films that there is for this remake.
People didn't have a problem with the sequels because they were different characters. Fans want more crow movies just not the Eric Draven character. I'm guessing coy never watched those movies or he would have known that.
Colin Farrell's accent is slipping in the trailer for Penguin.
I wonder if this was originally intended to lead into The Batman part deux. However (according to Jeffrey Wright)the film is suspended indefinitely after 2.5 months of filming.
Why is Kevin Feige involved in the talks with Spiderman movies anyways? Sony owns Spider man. Sony should just make their own movie without the MCU.
I have high hopes for The Penguin show, but the trailer was so-so for me.
I doubt it will be the best show of the year, but it’ll most likely be the best superhero related show of the year.
What people seem to not understand is the the remake of The Crow does not have to be what you enjoyed from the original. Maybe this is not going to be for you and that is its intention. That said I think it would be better if this was not the Eric Draven character so there was no preconceived notions of what it could/should be much like City of Angels or Salvation. Remaking this does not detract from Brandon's legacy, imo, as we still have his portrayal and can always go back to that if this is the dumpster fire a lot of people think it will be. To me it looks like it could be a fun revenge story whereas the original was more a tragic love story.
If they kill Tom bring back Andrew
It’d be cool if they just had a solo film of older PP, having to put the suit back on. Just a solo film with that Spider-Man having to take on a single villain.
I thought the crow trailer looked pretty cool it looked really interesting actually, and I have seen the original 41:04
Miles Morales already exists in the MCU. They mentioned him without mentioning his name in Homecoming.
No, Gotham shows that don’t have Batman never makes any sense to me. These type of shows just don’t work in my opinion. The whole show all I’m going to say is, where is Batman while all this is going on.
The best show of the year so far is actually an anime: Frieren, took everyone by surprise.
Who tf is Proyas to say The Crow is Brandon Lee's legacy when he and his crew are the reason Lee is dead. The Crow is James O'Barr's legacy, no one elses.
Proyas isn't responsible for the guns on set it was the gun handlers fault he hadn't cleaned and cleared the barrel of the gun. And Proyas only finished the film because Brandon's family asked him to finish it.
They gotta ditch multiverse concepts after this phase forever everything lost so much stakes because of multiverse stuff and was poorly executed
I don’t like the crow trailer, as it looks more like John wick( as everything does now) than the crow. 94 original for life for me. If you want to see it then that’s fine.
Alot of people like The Crow trailer. It's just the die hards and the try hards whining about a movie that has already had bad low budget remakes.