I QUIT MY NEW YORK BIG LAW JOB!!
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Trust me it’s ok😊 Your first job is never your forever job. This to shall past. Look forward to better days .
I absolutely love this message! So uplifting and positive.
Being a Lawyer is not as glamourous as people think it is. It takes the whole of you, family, emotions, and it can make one mentally sick if a balance is not sought. That said I couldn't see myself doing anything else. I quit big law and went in house, then ended up in private law. I think it's finding what you love rather than chasing the money. Thanks for sharing your story, it wasn't just about the supposed Big law for you. I am glad that you chose to do what's best for you. All the best in all you do.
I agree. TV and people who are unaware firsthand paint a legal career as this courtroom-jousting affair. Mostly it’s not that. However young people continue to flock to law school because of the perceived prestige. Do whatever makes you happy.if you like the work but hate the hours start your own firm.
@@Essays4College you are speaking a language that I understand. I started my own law firm and I make more money, see my family more, travel less, don't need to wear the highest heels and don't need to network when I don't want to. Indeed find what makes you happy, the field of law is huge, we don't all need BIG LAW to be happy and "made".
@@deelawyer6638 Good for you. Sounds like you found your happy place. For anyone reading this though, if you decide to go out on your own, networking, marketing, selling or whatever you want to call it is a must.
I strongly dislike when tenured coworker have a lack of accountability or respect for newbies. I’m glad you chose to value your peace over your position. Now you have a better idea of what you want in a company/position moving forward. It’s great to hear you’re in a much better place 🤗
Totally agree! A lot of people in law think that because they were mistreated when they were juniors, the juniors need to go through the same thing. It’s a very toxic mentality
I knew going into law school that I wasn’t made for big law. It’s corporate, it’s stressful, and I knew there was going to a lack of diversity. I currently am a public interest lawyer. I love it. No billable hours. You do your job and go home lol. Good for you for choosing what’s best for you.
Hey sister in Law! I'm a non-trad lawyer myself - never wanted to do OCI, knew big law wasn't for me. I'm happy to see other Black women attorneys take their incredible talent to so many other fields! Congrats on your decision, Angel! Get some rest.
I'm studying for the LSAT at the moment and even though I know I'm super early in my lawyering journey, I know that I'm not particularly interested in big law. Now when it comes to the public interest route or anything non-big law, people make it sound like you don't get paid and you drown in loans, but at least you have more time to yourself🥴. Is that really the case? I would love some more insight on this please. Personally, I can see myself wanting to go the public interest route Or being in the DA's office.
@@Borahborah9139 If you go into public interest, you’ll be eligible for student loan forgiveness but it takes 10 years.
@@Borahborah9139 depends on the school you attend, and how much aid you receive. Some schools have part time programs. I did a part time program. Took out about 79,000 in SL and that includes undergrad debt. I prob could have gotten out with less loans if I was more proactive about scholarships. I was substitute teacher to pay bills, but I can imagine if I worked a regular salary job while in school I would have graduated without debt. It can be done. If you are willing to forego the big named school and are truly interested in public interest.
@@DebraJohnson there are a lot of stipulations to forgiveness I would just try to pay it off ASAP and not have it hang over my head that long
Thank you for sharing and being vulnerable with us! I can definitely relate to a lot of this. No matter what you do you’re going to be wildly successful and I can’t wait to see it sis 👏🏾❤️
When I saw your video about quitting your job, I knew my video was coming soon lol! Thank you so much for the encouragement 💞
It's all part of the journey. Figuring out what you don't want to do so you are one step closer to what you want to do.
Luckily I had that epiphany before graduating law school. I knew the law firm route would just not work for me...the culture, the micro aggressions, the lack of work life balance...you find that at investment firms as well. In house is and remains my preference. You can really select a place not just by job description but company culture and team dynamics which is essential for me.
Can you go in house straight out of law school? I really want to do that instead of big law. How is the pay?
At one point when I was in college, I wanted to go straight in house after law school too. Best of luck with your journey 💞
@@shegotfit2220 it's pretty rare for people to get in house counsel positions straight out of law school. Pay varies greatly but is typically less than big law, but better than gov't jobs.
You were very smart to get out early
I plan on remaining in house at a company who’s a fortune 100 business and rated one of the best work environments for employees. My law school experience showed me that the law firm track isn’t for me unfortunately.
I'm an accountant at one of the big 4 accounting firms, and although I'm not a lawyer, I related to this video SO much. I'm a year and 7 months in and am STRUGGLING. The hours, the "corporate" environment, the hierarchy, the tedious work, not feeling valued, having no friends, the pandemic. It's all really a lot. I've had quite a few unpleasant moments with senior people too since I've joined that have made me feel this really is not an environment I want to stay in long-term. And I don't get paid that well either so it's not even like there's a high salary to balance it all out and the way training to become a public accountant in the UK works means that I will have to pay a lot of money to leave my "training contract" before it ends after 3 years (unless you get fired), so I have another year and a bit to get through which is honestly quite a depressing thought. I'm glad you put this video up though, it's kind of a reminder that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Wishing you all the best on your next journey :)
This sounds really tough. Hopefully taking it a day at a time and knowing that it won’t last forever helps. Sending you love! 💞
Try to hang in there while you look for a job at a smaller place, non-profit or government. The truth is most corporate jobs are salary, so you only get paid fro 40 hours, but they will drive you to get 80 hours out of you, particularly, if you are a minority, you will see that the non-minorities who slave as you do will get rewarded, and if you're female, you're a double minority and will be perceived as a liability when you get married, have kids and a family...
Public interest is not exactly bad....there are good benefits and SOME jobs pay a decent salary.
There are greener pastors in every career field it seems. The healthcare field is no better, it’s not as glamorous as it seems. Undervalued, over-worked or overly romanticized with an antiquated system of doing things.
Same here...I’m a black lawyer who worked at Big 4. I’m not currently licensed but I hate the treatment and the condescending tone within my team. I especially hated the way the seniors would never give me credit for the work I would do. It got to the point where i was disrespected and I left. I’m sooo glad I did because it was a toxic environment. I had to go back to industry where the hours were less but the pay is better. I’m still going to try and obtain my license but my mental health is so much better.
This is sooo relatable! I’m not even in law. However, as an accountant/soon to be CPA (just passed my exams) fresh out of undergrad, going into the “Big 4” is heavily pushed. So I went that route, did the internships to get a feel, and made a choice based on the culture similar to you. And yet, the reality once full-time was so opposite of what I could’ve expected. I just felt all of this, and love your transparency! Your joy is important. We only get one life, so we should enjoy the work we’re spending a majority of our week doing. Also, burnout is REAL! Wishing you all the best on your future endeavors. Subscribing to witness & cheer you all on! I’ll be praying about my next steps. ~Another Angel💕
Big 4 is overrated.
@@Essays4College So true. I just put in my 2 weeks notice and am making a switch to an industry I’ve always been interested in (still an accounting role though but hopefully less stressful).
Angel, thank you for being so transparent in sharing your big law experience. You are among many that leave a big law after one year. It is in your rare view now. There could be another big law firm or another company in your future. Either way... onward to bigger and better things that will truly bring happiness and gratify you! Wishing you the best. You got this!
Angel, you’re a bright young woman. You have so much potential, and you should never be complacent. You have so much ahead of you, and you’re going to accomplish great things.
So happy for you Angel! I quit my job last year and that was the best decision I ever made! Love my new job and I have had so many great opportunities and I am so much happier.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I'm currently looking into transitioning into a different field. I loved that you sought out to make changes before deciding to leave. I'm glad that you found something that's more aligned with what you're looking to get out of your career 💕
I had a 174 LSAT and multiple T14 offers. I ended up going into biotechnology instead of law but I’ve watched your channel to live vicariously. I’m glad you were honest enough with yourself to leave a professional life not worth living. You have my respect and my hopes for your future. ♥️
You made a good decision tbh. Biotech is a far more lucrative field
@@alyn6105 Hi Aly. I was a biology major, quantitative finance minor. I took a masters in computational biology and now work as a machine learning scientist in biologics discovery.
Congratulations on your new job! It's fantastic that you were able to be honest with yourself and realize your old work environment didn't align with what you wanted for yourself.
I practice in DC big law too, hope your experience is better at your new firm and maybe we’ll see each other around post-pandemic!
At least you're still a lawyer and doing what you like so far. That's good!
You’re peace of mind is most important! 🥰 if you dread it, dead it. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Best wishes on your next path!
Thank you for your insight, Angel. As a law student planning on doing big law, my internship experiences have already sort of underlined the fact that a lot of young associate work is that sort of redlining, putting in comments, administrative work. Definitely good to keep in mind for all those young associates coming up. Wish you all the best.
Aw wishing you the best! Thanks for being open. It really helps some of our discernment process as to what type of law we want to practice. Definitely agree about “professionalism” being toxic and being another form of oppression in a way.
Thank you for sharing your journey in an authentic way! This is extremely useful to aspiring attorneys. I'd love to know more about your new job and how it differs since it is still in the realm of Big Law jobs.
Good job getting out of NYC I’m also in big law but outside of NYC. D.C. is a good market with better lifestyle. Wishing you the best!
Thanks for sharing! This is a journey and sometimes the legal path leads you to different destinations than you planned.
Im so happy for you for putting yourself first! Sadly a lot of ppl dont. Looking forward to the upcoming videos about the job search
My absolute favorite video you have ever done. Thank you for being so transparent!
I’m so glad I saw this. I have the same vision as business and law. I wanted to do health law, but I will keep an open mind. I took many breaks to get my undergrad, so I will be 28 by the time I got to law school. I have been in entry-level positions and treated relatively poorly, and I have learned how to counteract the disrespect because it would destroy my self-esteem and mood. I’ve dated practicing attorneys, and I have experienced the arrogance 😂 , but I am scared as heck. Are you a member of P.A.D? I’ve been looking for organizations for aspiring Black lawyers and want to network with experienced attorneys, so I understand what I will encounter.
@cheads9376 Elaborate, because I don’t know what presumptions gave you the impression I would do that.
Congratulations on the lateral move :) As someone in the same class year and overlapping practice area, I think many of the things you didn’t enjoy (tedious “projects,” late calls, etc.) are endemic, but how hierarchical a firm is seems to vary a lot. At least where I work, people are generally pretty respectful and seniors/partners sometimes work directly with juniors (though that might reflect more on understaffing than anything else, lol). Wishing you the best at your new firm!
It must've been quite difficult just to get it all out. Thanks for doing this and I really admire your courage and openness! (and thanks for confirming y'all aren't splitting up lol you read my mind) Rock on!
Thanks so much for sharing!! When you’re in DC lmk if you want to collab 💞
Would love to!
I did an internship and then worked for a luxury cosmetics company and boy let me tell you.. that shit ain’t wont it. I hated almost everymoment of it and even had a panick attack once at my job. I started looking for a job in the government and I am now working for the city. It’s still “corporate” in a way but the people are just nicer and there is less pressure I feel. Also the pay is better in my opinion. I won’t say it’s amazing but so much better..
Thank you for sharing this video - it was powerful to hear your reflections. Wishing you continued success in your career!
This is such an honest, thoughtful, authentic reflection of your experience so far. Thank you for sharing with all of us! Good luck with the rest of your journey! :D
Welcome to DC! ☺️ good luck, and I wish you all the best.
Thank you so much for sharing this story, this is so important for people going into the field to know!
These are the things we as Black Biglaw associates don’t say out loud and let run us into the ground. Thanks for saying this out loud.
Next question: where is our Black Biglaw firm?
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Good for you. Congratulations on your new gig! 😊 I love this hair for you.
I currently am having this struggle as well. I’m in my last month of becoming an Cardiac sonographer and I honestly went into the this career for the money and I’m not the medical field kinda person😞 I’m not build for this. Currently looking into going into finance. I gotta be bubbly and love helping ppl. And medical field isn’t the way for me. Feel like I’ve wasted time😢
You are not going to be helping people either in the finance field. It's also all about corporate greed when it comes to finance.
@Tajha That's a big mistake that A LOT of Nursing students make lol You can give it a shot ,I wouldn't discourage you,but ,yes ,as an LPN ,I can tell you ,there's a lot of verbal interaction that is required in this field. If you're not a people's person ,of course, it will work, however ,you will be miserable.
Preach, gurl. You made it way further than I did so I applaud you! Proud of you for taking the steps you needed to take, and for sharing your story. It's so important for others considering the path to hear this perspective.
Thank you so much for sharing this. Everything you said really resonated with me down to the late night calls. I’m glad you left 💕
I love your videos, Angel. Your videos are always an eye-opening experience for me. Many workplaces everywhere are just a building unfortunately. I wish people were much more considerate during emergencies, friendlier and approachable at work in order to create a better work environment for everyone. Welcome to D.C.! 💜
Love the honesty and courage in this one ❤️.
Thank you for sharing your experience❤️. It’s hard to put mental health first when in such a prestigious field especially as a black woman . I would love to hear about your job search process in a pandemic.
this was good you was very detailed in i like how you moved I ready leave FL finally
Thank you for sharing your experience, you didn’t have to tell us anything so we really appreciate it! Also i’m happy you’re in a much better situation
Thank you for sharing! Wishing you all the best on the next stage of your career.
I'm glad you found another job! The pandemic is bringing lots of opportunities!
Glad you know your worth sis😌🙏🏽
A few more comments now that I watched the whole video.
If you are thinking about big law this is a good video to watch y’all!
You made a really good point about the work environment / work style. The summer internship doesn’t really prepare you for this so there was no way to know. Depending on your personality type this can feel isolating (if you prefer working on a team) or liberating (if you prefer working alone).
Omg I was slammed in March/April too! Everything felt 10x harder. 2020 was incredibly rough. I almost left too. The practice group / friends at work thing is real! Another hard thing to know when networking with a firm (of course the firm sends their best ppl to recruit) Thankfully I have a few in my group. And my group is generally accommodating. I have learned to step away or put blocks on my calendar when I need personal time. And I never compromise on being there for family and friends. Makes sense that Jamaica was a turning point.
Client base definitely impacts culture as we are in a professional services industry. But no one talks about this in law school.
Great video!!
Thank you for sharing! I've really appreciated your vlogs these last few years, keep it up!!
I nodded my head at many points that you made. Thank you for sharing your truth and reminding us we’re not alone in these experiences. Life is too short and I’m glad you’re in a happier place now💞
I'm in my sixth month of being a first year and every day I am anxious. It's really getting to me. I can't tell if I don't gel with my practice group or my firm. I split firms as a summer associate and went with my current firm for prestige reasons. I feel like I made more genuine/organic relationships at the other firm and regret not ending up there. I cannot wait til I hit one year so I can look elsewhere.
Thank you for sharing this info. This is only your beginning I do believe we end up exactly where we should be. By the way please give deets on your hair it’s lovely.
I'm really happy you were able to find a new path for you and wish you nothing but the best going forward! Would love to hear more about your new experiences, how you feel DC BL differs from NY BL, and how you feel practicing in your practice area for a new type of clientele (tech/media) changes the game for you!
This video is so powerful thank you for sharing! Knowing what is not for you, is just as important as knowing what you do want. Keep shining ❤️
thanks for this! clerked for in-house counsel for almost a year and im about to transition into a firm setting. i’ll be sure to do a lot of real reflecting during this new experience and as i head into my 3l year
Soooo much wisdom! It takes a lot of courage to pivot - so proud of you!
Thanks, Ebs! ❤️
thank you for sharing! We don't hear the real like this all will work out for you! I'm going to be a 3L next year and everyone pushes staying at a firm for years on end without the practical parts. Thank you for your transparency and you're glowing btw lowkey flex lol
Don’t worry Cece, you can easily find a job you like. Big law is too stressful so go for a small law firm and do that 40 hr a week… career work is a long term thing, should not burn out for your first few years. It is not worth it. Work -life balance… health is more important.
Great audio quality. Listening this in a warehouse and your channel has good audio quality. All the other RUclips videos suck.
The bad treatment of juniors or other memebrs of your employer's firm is really toxic. this kind of toxic behaviour has risen in all western economies becuase of increased mental health issues among all ages of the population. It's also a generational issue. the current active generations are more materialistic and spirtually empty. Many are on a false path in their lifes saddly.
I think most people are struggling in the beggining of their carieer whatever the occupation. I hear the same from nurses, investment bankers, lawyers, engineers and so on. What I want to say is when you get senior you will have the oppertunity to make a change for the positive. Try to then introduce a better culture and stand up for more positive work environment in the firm you will be employed or even better in the firms that you are the owner or manager of! That might be worth the struggle as a junior. The world needs compassionate, smart and hard working people.
You're good girl. I did that in 2012. 👍🏿 I've moved on and you will too!
Love your honesty and confidence. :)
Congratulations on your success queen 💙
Sounds like you suffered from just a tiny bit of naïveté. I feel like most young associates have NO CLUE about what big law is really about. It’s good you figured out quickly to get out of the job. Hopefully you’re still on track to pay off your student loans.
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Honestly, and I say this with all sincerity, you sound a bit naive with your expectations. I’m surprised that no one flagged this for you. I graduated law school during a recession. Many of my classmates were not even able to find living wage jobs for years. You are not obligated to stay where you do not feel comfortable, however, sometimes you have to go through the grit to get to a position where you enjoy the people, the work and the overall environment. Those things will not always align at the “same time” and that’s okay. You decide what is the most important thing for where you are right now and move according to that, no matter what the environment looks like. If finances and paying off debt is a priority, then move according to that. If health and wellness are a priority then move according to that. You are still young so you have the rest of your life to focus on health and wellness. Why not “get the bag” while you still have the strength and energy? I run my own corporate/VC law practice now and I’ve dealt with being the only woman and minority at the negotiation table with partners twice my age, snide comments from board members investing in my clients, being undermined by in-house counsel of the companies that hired me, other attorneys that I thought were “friends” trying to recruit my clients or send them to partner friends at other firms and the list goes on. I always remember why I do what I do and how so few of us are represented in this industry. I take a moment to acknowledge my frustration, then keep grinding. Even as an owner of my practice, I handle invoices and drafting consents if my secretary and paralegal are unavailable. I’ve even walked down to FedEx to fax a form for a client when my fax machine broke because nothing is beneath my overall goal. I spend most of my days drafting or researching alone in my office with phone/video meetings sprinkled throughout the day. I save socializing for after work. You will need thick skin to enjoy the practice of law in general. I look forward to following your journey.
Thank you for your comment. It sounds like we have different values, and nothing is wrong with that. My position didn’t align with my values, so I adjusted according to that. I’m happy you’ve found work that aligns with yours. Wishing you all the best.
"You are still young so you have the rest of your life to focus on health and wellness. Why not “get the bag”" is where you lost me. I'm so glad younger generations no longer believe in literally working yourself to the grave and understand that you can have a healthy lifestyle and a high paying salary.
Likewise.
Sam, I am not saying to work yourself into the grave. I am a millennial by the way, so there are different mindsets within the same generation. What I am suggesting is a re-ordering of priorities. Health and wellness includes happiness, balance as well as physical health. I did not hear any mention of health issues in this video including high blood pressure or depression, which often plague attorneys. It sounds like the decision was based on satisfaction. I enjoy a healthy lifestyle and also enjoy being my own boss. However, I still have law school debt to pay off. Unless my physical health is compromised, I’m okay sacrificing happiness and balance temporarily until I have financial freedom to enjoy my life when I’m less able to work. I don’t know anyone in my network that has a healthy lifestyle + high paying salary that did not start off with a challenging career or come from a wealthy family. The entrepreneurs I know all started with degrees and corporate jobs they disliked. The investors I know all worked year(s) in tech, banking, healthcare or as entrepreneurs selling the companies they built. Transformation and leveling up does not happen overnight. It’s okay to shift if something is not working out and everyone’s decision-making process will look different, but the biggest rewards come with committing to our investments despite some discomfort. Hopefully this resonates.
Did u not have any paralegals to do the smaller tasks and projects?
Weekly meetings at 9pm?? 12am?? TF
The people whose mantra is "coworkers arent your friends" is so insane to me. Of course, you should be professional and not just trust everyone, but thats a given. More like your coworkers arent necessarily* your friends.
I get that we're all there for one specific reason, but it doesnt mean we can't enjoy each other's company or care about each other outside of work. I feel like that's such a miserable mentality to think that way. You have to be around these people for 40+ hours a week.
That’s YOUR view. Some are there to earn a living and go home.
Actually they are not your friends. At best they can be your acquaintance. Everywhere I have worked I have always made sure that I have good chemistry with 1 or 2 coworkers so politically I don't become an office target. It's also stupid to think that your coworkers are your friends because once you leave the company they won't keep in touch with you. I learned that after my first job when after a year I switched to a new company. I tried keep in touch with my old colleagues and tried to hang out with them but none of them was willing to do so.
@@GiGiChosen Duh? The only view I can express is my own.
@@doctorx1924 Ackshually, they are. I have made many friends who I talk to, to this day, several jobs removed now. Everyone's experiences are different. Not every coworker at every job is going to become a long-term friend. The fact that you tried to keep in touch with your coworkers at your first job and how that has changed your perception...thats sad, but not everyones like that.
@@erich7861 I said what I said
I want to try working in biglaw. Pay off debt and save money to put down on a house. Then hopefully go solo.
How does your current associate role compares with your last one in terms of the low-level work and lack of respect for juniors? I’m thinking about going to law school in the fall, but I’m 26 and have spent the past several years building skills and holding responsibility in demanding roles. Idk if I would be able to go back to square one and do dumb busy work once I graduate from law school at 29.
Tell me so I know too!
It's not the same in every firm, thankfully, especially at smaller firms or other legal employers. 26 still is quite young-- you can find places where you won't feel looked down upon or given busy work.
Congratulations on your new opportunity!
I hope you open your own law office.
That would cost her a ton of money and added risks. If she was struggling at Big Law, what make you think she should venture into her own practice? What will she do when the going gets really tough in her own practice? Will she end up quitting on herself?
Please be respectful it's her page not yours there is no reason to be rude. Go to your page and be rude don't come to her page and be rude.
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I currently a stub (first years) at a v20 and I haven’t been getting work and have been very stressed out, worried that I may not be getting work maybe because my past assignments have been bad. What should I be doing at this long? I am a poc and I often feel intimated about swinging by a partners office and asking for work (even if we a central staffing system). Because of anxiety, I threw up my dinner last week and I realized I need to do something about it. All the other first years are very busy and it makes me feel worthless. I’ve always wanted to be a lawyer and it’s been scary to think that I might not be successful. Can people just stamp your reputation within three months. I can’t fully fathom why I am not getting work :(
Thank you for the transparency! So because you are barred in TX and NY did you have to take the bar for DC? How does that work ?
Luckily, no! DC allows me to waive in my score from New York.
Thanks for the advice girly 👌🏽💓
Being a lawyer is probably the most overrated profession there is.
Do you have any knowledge if i reassigned because i found another job, but they told me because i reassigned they won't pay me my paid time leave because i didn't give them the 2 weeks notice. Do they have to pay my paid time off? New York
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Ole girl. You need to humble yourself and recognise that a partner’s time or an associates’ time is worth less than yours (junior).
Recognise that that all the training you have done; there are still old school people in the firm that don’t keep time coz you are junior.
They want you to earn your stripes.
I take all the shit that comes to me coz I recognise that I am not entitled to their status.
I need to earn their respect and keep. I can’t just waltz in and expect legislation to protect me.
I have to be part of the team and culture. If that’s how they treat their juniors. Go with it.
The position you have is a privilege and a lot of people can take more BS than you to be in that similar position.
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I am a person of colour (Black man). I believe this was a great opportunity for you. Lawyers make a good living.don’t expect to go in without earning your stripes.
Law is a wonderful career. The not expecting to do the graft coz you have a degree doesn’t work.
You need to be part of the team. Don’t expect special treatment.
Realise your junior role and follow your predecessors. No special treatment.
I mean.... at least she made big law money. Imagine doing this for like $30,000-$50,000, which a LOT of law school graduates do for years because they struck out on big law. All that work and stress, AND you're broke and in severe debt lol.
oo - what kind of other law jobs work big law hours with such little pay? I have never heard of these, except maybe public defenders which are also stepping stones.
Welcome to the man's world. Need a friend? Get a dog. How did you go to law school and not figure out that practicing law was not all sunshine and rainbows? Litigation groups are far more difficult than corporate. No new lawyer getting paid WAY more than their worth deserves respect. That is earned by commitment, high work quality, and availability. That is the process. Family? Family and BigLaw is geared toward men getting it done for his family at home.
What a complete dick. I was at Quinn Emanuel, one of the hardest working and most successful litigation firms in the world, and I find your comment condescending and utterly lacking in humanity. Life’s rich tapestry requires a wide cast of individuals to make a world. Yes, this life isn’t for everyone - and that’s fine. People like you detract from it, though. There’s no need be nasty. Interestingly, all of the partners I ever worked for were thoroughly decent people. I only ever encountered attitudes like yours in law students, where it was transparently a reflection of their fears and insecurities. I hope - both for your sake and that of your colleagues - that you mature as you gain experience.
I would gladly take your big law job :) Hook it up, please. Literally what I'm looking for rn 😂
Email us with your resume and I can connect you with a few big law contacts.
@@Sistersinlaw Fr? You're the bomb. Seriously. I will e-mail you rn. Thanks a lot.
My niece graduated from University of Chicago Law School. Interned at a big firm during her last year and hated it. They offered her a six figure salary and she declined. Said she knew it would be too stressful. She is happily working part-time. Know what works for you. Have your non-negotiables, and be prepared to walk away. You will find your happy place, and you'll still be young enough to enjoy it!
@Alpha Omega True!
The power of walking away 🔥
I’m so happy that you had the self- awareness and confidence to dip when you needed to. I hate to see the sadness in your eyes- y’all’s channel has given me so much guidance during my time in law school, even though I’m on a public interest track. I always loved to see your academic drive. I hope you find your joy again, you deserve it.
Glad you shared your experience. I recently told my bosses that the job isn’t a good fit for me and so I’ve been looking. I think it’s good we hear these stories because we only hear about people who stay with firms for years and years. I think happiness should always come first :)
This is honestly the same for any junior employee at a Corporate Firm, even for not-so junior employees. There is no basic dignity and self-respect - eventually you learn to survive by repaying co-workers with the same passive-aggressiveness.
You did good to stay that long. I read about a guy who quit his big law job after three days. That was as much as he could take.
You’re amazing Angel (and thank you for being transparent about this), wishing you all the best for the future!
So happy for you Angel. Would y’all mind documenting the apartment hunting process in DC?
Thank you! We actually bought a house 👀. Video coming soon!
@@Sistersinlaw LISTEN!! 😂
Everything you said is 100% true. I’m in the exact same BigLaw situation now. Thank you for taking the time and effort to share your story.
I can relate to this so much. I quit my corporate health care job to work for myself. Best decision I've ever made. Good luck with everything. 🥰🥰
We're proud of you, Angel!