10 Things That Are Tacky When You're Poor, But Classy When You're Rich
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 24 окт 2022
- Thanks, Nuuly! Go to Chelsea's Nuuly Link and use code TFD20 for $20 off your first month: www.nuuly.com/rent/landingpag...
In this episode, Chelsea dives into things that get coded as classy or tacky depending on whether you're rich or poor, from acrylic nails to tiny homes.
Sources:
-exposed brick:
www.independent.co.uk/life-st...
www.apartmenttherapy.com/trut...
-living in the country:
www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/ny...
www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/h...
-casual dress:
www.businessinsider.com/weari...
-acrylic nails:
www.refinery29.com/en-gb/acry...
-tiny homes/van life:
www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/18/t...
www.google.com/amp/s/www.mhvi...
ideas.ted.com/impact-of-tiny-...
www.nytimes.com/2019/08/28/cl...
www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us...
-gambling:
www.census.gov/library/workin...
www.vox.com/identities/2016/1...
www.filmink.com.au/list-films...
-outsourcing childcare:
www.pewresearch.org/social-tr...
www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/ne...
www.bankrate.com/finance/cred...
-wearing logos:
www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021...
www.thefashionlaw.com/the-cou...
-haggling/negotiating:
www.pon.harvard.edu/daily/neg...
www.naceweb.org/job-market/co...
www.pon.harvard.edu/daily/lea...
www.pgpf.org/blog/2021/11/inc...
Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @thefinancialdiet
The Financial Diet site:
www.thefinancialdiet.com
Facebook: / thefinancialdiet
Twitter: / tfdiet
Instagram: thefinancia... 
Хобби
If you haven't signed up for Chelsea's FREE budgeting workshop, now is your last chance!! Just RSVP here and get access to the event, live Q&A, a 25-page budgeting workbook created by Chelsea, entry into our giveaway to win a $250 Visa gift card to jumpstart your budget, and much more!! bit.ly/3ss5R4L
The ironly of Doing sponsorship ad's for a superficial non essential thing like clothing rental subscriptions is on a "financial diet" channel HYSTERICAL
@@UsernameUnkwn21 it's actually a good way of getting outfits for events and stuff without buying shitloads of clothes you'll only wear once. Whilst I hate subscription based models, having a service like this makes sense so you don't end up wasting money on one use items, and that saves money and the environment.
Its no different to renting a wedding dress and tux to save money on the wedding, better $200 than $3,500
what about cheating by getting the kid extra "tuition" to cheat on state exams?
buying higher grades
You get what you pay for and I'd rather pay the money for dave ramsey's financial peace.
#1 thing that is trashy if you are poor but classy if you are rich: Accepting money from the government.
Not sure if "classy" is the right word for when rich people do it, but it is infuriating that the same people screaming "Stop taking handouts, you bums!" and are actively lobbying to decrease funds for social programs are the same people who happily applied for a handout during the pandemic.
👏👏👏
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Yeah, I saw so many people who'd gotten their PPP loans forgiven despite laying workers off go around going "mrrrr you and your student loan forgiveness".
Absolutely! It’s just considered savvy and sensible when you have excess capital but lazy and desperate when you don’t. Really, it’s resourceful in both circumstances and is more likely to be wrong when rich, if anything.
YESSSS
Having a drug addiction while rich: "they need help"
Drug addiction while poor: they did it to themselves, throw them in jail, don't help them-they will just use it to buy drugs.
Having a drug addiction when rich: Party Live Style
Right. Everyone feels sorry for Matthew Perry ( of Friends fame) because he has serious addiction issues but no one feels sorry for the neighborhood junkie but really it's the same issue.
@@mallorygraf8574 I think a part of it is Matthew perry and other celebrities have usually done something or made something that society loved or appreciated. It is easier to feel sorry for people that, in your mind, have done something for you or at least have contributed to society. People look at poor junkies and assume the addict hasn't done anything to help society in any way, so in most people's minds that means the addict is less deserving of sympathy and help. I'm not saying it's good to think this way, it's not very empathetic, but it also is kind of true.
I've experienced this first hand and it's sad! I got treated waaayyy differently bec I was white and middle class❤ur channel
@@nicoledoubleyou I never thought about it that way but I can see that train of thought. The "judgey" side of me thinks that rich or poor, we all know that drugs are bad for you as society has been screaming about it for decades so it's on the person if they decide to take drugs and ruin their (& their families) life. However, the kind side of me says I haven't walked in their shoes so who am I judge? *Sigh*
As a Mexican, living in Mexico, another thing is how we are viewed as immigrants is we live in the USA, but Americans call themselves ex pats when living in Mexico, or another low income country
They love the sugarcoated term for.inmigrant. Pero yo les llamo refugiados económicos ya que allá no les alcanza y acá sí.
Same thing in the Philippines. For some effin reason whenever I see job posting online it says "Looking for English teachers. Accepting Expats from UK, USA, etc". And they get paid more than the locals. But when Filipinos live abroad they'll call us "immigrants" cus we live in a third world country
Well it matters to most Americans how you came to be in our country and since many of people who came from south American countries here illegal it does have a negative connection but if your part of community and they know you're family came legally then it changes association and different at least in all the places I've lived all over US. Like foreign students and people who are known to come through in proper ways (like in corporate business)then they are not called or looked at same. But especially now as we have millions coming in its not same as like let's say my family that's brought spouses or family from Japan or other places where they know had to go through process. We see in military lots of people from other countries who come in to be citizen and they too aren't looked at same (not in good way) I am retired military and have personally known many who come in to get here then go missing and just used system so it doesn't sit well with many soldiers if not most.
Yes because Americans usually don’t go to Mexico or other poor countries for work opportunities and a better life lol
@@therealbuba I am not American, thank goodness, but all the videos I see promoting or extolling the ex-pat life are totally about financial opportunities. The vast majority seem to be young, lower-middle-class retirees or others who have windfall cash. Their savings/pensions/401k's are barely enough to live on in the US, but allow them a nice place on the beach with cafe lifestyles in Central America. The exchange rates, poverty wages, and historic power imbalances allow them to live a plush lifestyle there.
On the flip side of minimalism, I think often times owning a lot of stuff when you’re lower income is a necessity. You can’t throw away something because you might need it later. It’s the security in knowing “if I get rid of it, I can always buy another one”.
My partner grew up poor (his parents are now pretty good but his mom was 16 when she got pregnant) and I grew up more upper middle class so we ALWAYS have the same discussion on getting rid of things
This can be hard to break. I hate a lot of clutter because moving becomes hell. But sometimes, you do randomly need that thing that usually should've been thrown out. I bought sandpaper for something last year and didn't think I'd need the rest. I'm happy I kept it though because I slept on an air mattress my first few weeks of moving to my current location, and the bed got a hole in it. Patching it required sanding down the velvet around the spot first, and the aluminum sander that came with the bed was so sharp, it would've made the hole bigger. I was able to use my sandpaper instead and patch the hole properly.
I also keep the boxes of almost all small appliances. My logic is I can put said item back in the box when moving, keeping it from being damaged or buying more boxes to put them in.
This was my issue with Marie Kondo back when that was a big thing. When you're poor you can't just throw something away if there's a chance you might need it, because you can't afford to buy a new one.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley My partner also keeps all the boxes, he also keeps them so if he sells the item or passed it down he can have the box to give as well
@@anainesgonzalez8868 Thry also make for a good place to put the user manuals, instead of some random drawer. Finding the large box is easier than trying to find a pamphlet.
This is such a good video. It also reminds me that people that move to other countries are "immigrants" if they are working class, but "expats" if they are rich or living a "nomad lifestyle". It always pisses me off.
Or even if you're coming from a *rich* country you're immediately branded as an "expat" because you're *obviously* not an "economic immigrant". So classist and xenophobic! I had a chance to experience it myself when I was branded as an immigrant in the UK, but a "digital nomad/expat" in Bulgaria 🤦
Im guilty of this lol.
I called myself expat for ages, i thought it was more of an ingroup Thing but then ran into plenty of people who used it to describe me vs other immigrants. Aka non-college educated people/poor people.
At the time I was poor but LOOKED rich with my Uni degree, weird Office Job (i Work with Video Games, and that distracts people from the sometimes shitty pay) and German accent ( apparently it's one of the socially acceptable ones to have).
Needless to say, ive come to loathe the term.
@@annabeinglazy5580 I'm in a scholarship program doing my PhD abroad, and when local people speak shit of immigrants I usually ask them... Who? Immigrants like me? Usually they start justificating themselves saying that is different, because it's people who come from poor countries to get a better life here... And it's exactly what I'm doing (and even though I'm middle class, I come from a poor country too) so yes, claiming that "tag" is a little move to raise awareness towards xenophobia (or at least I like to think that's my two cents hahah)
People moving from one developed nation to another developed nation are called expats. People moving from developing nations to developed nation are called immigrants.
THIS! I was so confused in my teens when I first encountered the word expat in a book. Thankfully I had a lovely school librarian, I mean most of them are lovely, who didn't mince her words. I was telling her about the book I finished and how it was weird that they called the family in the book expats and not immigrants like my family. We then went on to have a lovely chat about it and how even if people try to use my status to degrade me, I should be proud of who I am.
Classy when you are rich, tacky when you are poor: being bilingual. growing your own food or keeping chickens.
Growing your own food is awesome what do you mean?
@@kingcuckoo read the title of the video
Being bilingual but English is your second language, not the first.
Totally! Where I am, the rich don't necessarily have to be bilingual, because they don't have to stoop down to learn the maid's language. It's the maid who is obligated to learn the employer's language. So most of us lower class citizens speak at least two of the national languages, even if we don't work directly for the upper classes.
Seriously it’s bizarre. Growing your own food or keeping chickens is literally aspirational to most people in cities but there is that bizarre tendency to look down on people who have done that for generations.
I used to volunteer at our local homeless shelter and I saw how necessary a smart phone was to navigate the social service system - to get hold of the right person in the right office, to schedule appointments and figure out the transportation system and on and on.
I do telehealth Disability evaluations, and having a smart phone makes those evaluations possible for disabled people in remote areas where transportation is an issue.
This is so true. And what's worse is that many of their websites work on desktop mode only, so it gives a sense of false hope. My best friend was in need and I often helped them navigate everything via my computer because it didn't even work via mobile, and I'm very tech savvy and it was such bs.
An added point to moving to the country. People from big cities move out to these rural areas and then make trouble for the lower income people who live there and throw fits because things aren't the way they were in the city. Growing up rural we had a family from NYC move into the closest house to us (1/2 mile away) and the complain about our livestock. They didn't like the bulls bellering during breeding season, they didn't like the flies. They didn't like the combines running at 2:00 am in the field across the road during wheat harvest.
Then don't move next to a working farm. That's someone's home and business, not a place for you to live out your cottagecore fantasies.
Shockingly they lasted less than five years before moving on.
That's hilarious! (and annoying for you, no doubt) I can't imagine having the money to buy and house, choosing to move next to a big farm and then complaining that I live next to a big farm!
The very essence of "what did you expect?!"
Glad they're not neighbors anymore!
I live in a pretty rural area (although not in the US but Europe), and there are quite a few people who moved here for "peace and tranquillity" and then complain that there is nothing for miles around but cow sheds.
“Cottagecore” YES. That is sooooo true. As someone who prefers the city, if you love the city- THAT’S where you need to stay…. Not come to someone else’s area to change them.
Lucky you that they moved away!🍀🍀
Rich people are judged for conspicuous consumption while poor people seem to be judged for ANY consumption.
I remember in middle school that my aunt (dark skinned Dominican) was taking to me (white passing Puerto Rican mix) to a get my hair and nails done for my birthday. I got there earlier than her and this woman that was waiting for an appointment was giving me suggestions, which included acrylics, and then when my aunt walked in she asked if they did acrylics there. I guess the woman thought it was okay to say this to me but she told me “ugh that would make her even trashier” I couldn’t believe it even back then
There are so many additions, but one I would add: speaking one or more languages outside of your first language. For many immigrants, it's seen as low class to have to make a phone call to your parent, relative or friend; or to have to translate for someone. If you're from an upper middle class or upper class background, you're seen as "open minded", "educated", and "worldly". Such a double standard. Great video!
Yes! I would even layer on a white supremacist component - speaking Mandarin or Spanish is seen as lower class than speaking French, Swedish, or some other European language as a second language.
@@purplepoppy07 I could definitely see that. I am not hispanic, but I speak Spanish as a second language (I spend a lot of time in Mexico and Colombia). I have had ethnophobic folks hear me with a friend or translating at a previous job blatantly ask me "Why?" with a quizzical/disapproving look on their face. Whatever, their loss as I see it.
SPOT 👏🏻 ON 👏🏻 There are private-ish language immersion elementary schools in our area (Spanish and French), but you know that the blonde haired blue eyed children who speak Spanish or French will be perceived differently than the dark haired dark eyed children. And that's nothing compared to the kiddos who speak Spanish at home, but come to school and are forced into ESL classes regardless of their capabilities. Its incredibly frustrating to watch. I really appreciate you pointing this one out!
@@jaredgenova2228 In my country I was always perceived as very open minded, educated, worldy. I went to a very expensive private school and I speak 4 languages. When I moved to France to study, me knowing different languages it was seen as I was just a poor immigrant that needed to learn different languages just to get around, I had plenty of petty faces instead of the proud ones I got (still get) in my country
@@rmcnally3645 Absolutely true!
It's funny, I thought Chelsea wore animal print on purpose because animal print is one of those things that people often see as "classy" if it's a designer item but "tacky" if it's a low-end brand. This happens a lot with fashion: for example, large hoop earrings have become trendy among influencers but have previously had a reputation for looking cheap (and among some groups, women who wore large hoops were even considered slutty).
That's what I was thinking too!
I also thought this was an intentional choice!
Ah yes, everyone remembers the phrase, "the bigger the hoop, the bigger the ho."
@@Iquey I thought it was the bigger the O the bigger the Ho? I remember thinking about that in middle school and how dumb it was.
To me it's the tackiest thing you could ever wear, I refuse to wear it.
Another is tans. Historically, being tanned was a sign of lower class, out working in the sun all day. Now on rich people it's seen as a good thing (even the obvious fake tan), but for poor people, still a mark of being a manual laborer, or worse gets into the racism of having darker skin...
I would argue that tans became popular during the rise of desk jobs. Sitting inside makes you pale. If you work outside you‘ll end up with a farmers tan. But having an even, all over tan requires hours of leisure time. As for tacky spray tans? Those fall into the same category as over branded fashion.
Video starts at 3:25.
this is getting ridiculous now haha. three and a half minutes!!
Thank you!
Thx
Thank you
My hero, thank you!
The counter-signaling is super fascinating in the context of colleges and universities as well. I went to a liberal arts college out on the west coast, and a version of counter-signaling combined with thrift "upcycling" made for a super disorienting culture where extremely wealthy students were "dressing down" and in turn speaking poorly of students who didn't. This, of course, ended up rearing its head when it became obvious that the students who were lower income or scholarship students became the targets of this think-piecey mockery by the rich upcycle crowd. I swear it was like being part of a social experiment.
I am living this reality rn, also at a Liberal Arts college
Literally I have purchased work clothes for cheaper new at the mall on clearance, than Goodwill charges for used. Thrifting is dead for those who are truly in need.
Lll
Ĺ
Ĺ
Some other things:
Having many kids
Eating junk food
Driving old cars
Both stay and home moms and working moms
literally there's no way to be the "right" kind of mom, especially if you're poor
@@katielarsen2630 exactly
Oof, that last one though. There's no winning with motherhood. Well, maybe a stay-at-home mom with a 6 figure earning husband is somewhat of a win?
“IS IT THE NAILS THAT ARE LOOKED DOWN ON OR THE WEARERS” 👏👏👏
🙂🙂🙂
It all looks bad fake nails in general look cheap, so do Gotti painted nails, stop paying to get your nails done it's silly and nobody cares, all you need are clean nails and hands anything else looks cheap.
"...he should have to dress like the robber baron he is..."
Ma'am, I spit my coffee. Thanks for that one.
Hahaha me too
It was the monocle popping out that did it for me 😅🧐
Hahahaha
It really seems like so many of these circumstances boil down to the perceptions of choice. If you have money, you can choose to live in a tiny house or a nomad van or not actually own a lot of stuff because should the need arise you can afford whatever you need the moment you need it. Your comfort is assured either way. But if you don't have money, you're options in many walks of life become constrained. Suddenly your life circumstances are not fashionable because that's "the best you could get" in the eyes of the judgmental. So double-standards to the nth degree. :(
It's the myth of meritocracy. "If people just worked harder, they wouldn't have to live in their cars." Nevermind that they might actually be working harder than the person judging them but still making a lot less.
@@hueypautonoman exactly
@@hueypautonoman Exactly, I agree with you. The "try harder" mindset doesn't consider the obstacles or circumstances someone could be facing.
Saw this parenting approach to allowances and it really peaked my interest: intentionally setting it low, and telling your child that if they want a higher one, they have to justify why. This isn’t done to ‘torture’ your child, but to teach them the skills necessary to be a good negotiator before adulthood.
Better than what my parents did. I didn’t get an allowance even though we could afford it. Instead, every time I wanted anything I would have to ask my parents and make an argument for why. I hated it and ended up never asking for anything.😂
1) Minimalism 2) Thrifting/Second Hand clothes 3) Fixing broken things 4) Staying at home after having a baby 5) complaining about money and prices and using the word "poor". Like "Ooooh, I'm so broke! I'm poor!" 6) Asking for money back.. like : "you owe me that 2 bucks I lent you six months ago for that coffee that one time.."
I'm curious about point #4 - staying at home after having a baby. I'd love to understand this better
I would like to understand as well.
@@LindoDios @NeonMonochrome sorry for the delay, I didn't realize that I had to answer. it's pretty self-explanatory imo. If you have a rich husband and you stay at home you are a mom that takes good care of the kids, if you are poor sometimes you can't afford to stay at home but also you can't affrd good childcare and you work for very low pay, so it looks different. also it's my preception in general, if you go back to work after a baby because you have a great career it's one thing, but you can also afford to stay at home because you have good stability of contract.
Okay, asking for money back is a funky spot. Small amounts I think are always going to be looked down on but appreciated when somebody does pay you back. Larger amounts are definitely something that can kill a friendship over time.
Deciding to have a bike as transportation vs driving an expensive car. When rich people choose a bike as a daily transportation it’s so fancy and eco friendly and they are praised for being sustainable but when an average person does the same they are broke and need to level up to be taken seriously
Drinking/ Smoking also are such a classy social activity and almost a requirement for riches and tacky and unhealthy activity for poor
I wish we could move past needing s car for getting anywhere. Maybe the current oil crisis will force the government's hand to stop bankrolling oil daddies and put more serious efforts into other alternative transportation methods.
exactly and regarding the drinking and smoking thing. for the upper classes, it's seen as a small quirk like "oh yeah susan my alcoholic aunt" or "mike the finance bro that occasionally takes cocaine" but if a poor person does it then they're a failure and deserve to live in poverty because they brought it upon themselves
@@f.t633 Substances are a whole other theme: Rich white kids doing dr*gs on a party is about status and living their best life because they have money + Their options for therapy and recovery are a lot like holidays with nurses around. Being poor and on dr*gs is the lowest of the low.
I've been working on reducing car dependency and I hate the stereotype of only the well off bike! Yes there are your white bike bros but so many lower income people use bikes and scooters because it's far cheaper than a car and it gets ignored by so many people.
I have started using buses, which I love, but I have no doubt there is gossip that I'm broke or have lost my license, and it's a battle to get people to stop offering me a ride from the bus stop. I have friends who will not meet me in the city for lunch as they 'don't like driving in town' but yet they utterly refuse to take the bus! I tried out an electric bike, but I am a 40 minute drive from town so it's just too far, and I can just imagine the gossip if I did! It's ridiculous.
The jump in luxury brand popularity blows my mind. As an elder millennial I'm still scarred by the '08 crash. No way I would leverage myself that far.
I wanted to do tiny house living so I could have affordable housing after graduating college, but rich people made it way too expensive to do.
O my!
And not just that, finding somewhere to even put the house can be very difficult.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley yes, this is the real issue. It's possible to get financing for a tiny home, but the logistics of parking it are often the bigger problem.
I thought everyone built their own tiny home? Out of scraps found on the side of the road for $5000 all in.
@@chrisd725 nah it's since somehow opened Up a Market to fancy Designer Houses. Which i find fascinating from a Design point of View but it's 100% a rich people finding their Zen thing
I love the phrase "He has to dress like the robber baron he is."
Things that are tacky when you're poor, but classy when you're rich: leopard spot and tiger stripe clothing garments. 😅
This also makes me think about wearing synthetic fibers: "polyester" is tacky, but "microfiber" or "performance fabrics" show that you're serious about wellness. And have money.
About a lot of these trends (which is alluded a bit in the video as well):
Wealthier people are never in any danger and always have options to "trend shift".
Living in car, thats the last enclosed space that person owns;
Van life, that person either has a home or can easily acquire safer accomodations if they need to.
Money lets you move much faster than the poor/average income. Watch tiny home nation if you want to get mad about tiny home buyers/investors
Agree
I love that you're doing a video on this. I get so frustrated that "poor" aesthetics makes even the cheap stuff expensive to furnish your place. Also, a woman did a study where she lived in hotel lobbys and airports for a month without spending much if anything on food and stuff. She lived off of free things. Because she made sure to look rich. But she lived a homeless life. Very illuminating on how big the difference is in how people perceive actions of "rich" and "poor" appearing people.
Additional Bonus: thrift shopping at goodwill.
Those international travellers begging for money to keep their "adventure" going
Elevated ethnic food in trendy restaurants where I been eating it at home or find a taco truck owned by actual people who know how it's done!
Hard agree on thinking that logos look tacky on everyone. Just a branded uniform you’ve paid to wear.
If I wanted to be a walking billboard, I’d be getting paid to do it, not the other way around.
I tease my husband that he's paid someone else to run a free advertising campaign for them.
@@sheila3936 exactly I'm not going to pay several thousand dollars to advertise your s*** for you
@@sheila3936 👍That’s the only way it makes sense
The wealthy wear labels, but the poor just cannot recognize them. No need to judge, right?
This was very fascinating. I remember in high school when I was obsessed with having all the brands the cool kids had and when I started to find out what kids had the crazy wealthy parents I realized they dressed the most nondescript. That idea has somewhat stayed with me. I loathe labels though I like nice things. I like subtle luxury and mixing high and low. I don’t feel comfortable wearing head to toe designers because I don’t want that attention. To each their own though. Great video, Chelsea.
Literally the tiny homes thing has always bugged me because I have always lived in mobile homes. Btw Mobile homes look really nice now.
Tiny homes are just reimagined trailers - leave it to rich kids to re-invent the idea of a trailer! And you are correct that mobile homes can be VERY nice and better-insulated than an older home. If you can afford land, living in a mobile home on that land while you build your house is at least middle-class where I’m from.
Gracias Chelsea por todo tu contenido. Me gustaría que leyeras sobre la cultura “whitexican” de Mexico. Mucho de lo que mencionas en este video esta muy presente en las clases altas de Mexico. Te saludo en español porque me da muchísimo gusto que hayas aprendido español y soy tu súper fan!!! Saludos!!!!
Ufff la cultura whitexican está teñida de racismo y clasismo. Mucha tela de donde cortar ahí
Muy bien, Mexico es un gran pais, muy lindo.
Que chsm los whitexicans!
Thanks to comment translation, I can read comments from other languages.
Tienes razón, todo el vídeo pensé en los whitexicans.... Y si super fan de Chelsea y aún más por qué aprendió español!!!
I'm mexican and I lived in mx City my whole life and during the past two years with amercians migrating here to do home office, the rent and living cost increased drastically and we just can't afford it cause our salaries are in mx pesos.
United Statesians think us mexicans are the problem with their economy. There is no solution unless our government taxes them more
That's disgusting!
that's horrible, I've heard it happening in Costa Rica but I didn't know it was in Mexico too. And it's always relatively wealthy people who do it, not poor people who truly can't afford the cost of living in the US
@@katielarsen2630 yep, it's pretty F'up, there's even an agreement with Mexico's city government & Airbnb to promote MXcity as "Global capital of remote work and creative tourism". In consequence, people are displayed from the places they've lived their whole life in most affordable areas that are obviously far away from their workplace this and other factors are going to increase the already high inequality
“It’s tacky on everyone!” I laughed out loud and got stared at! 😂
Though I love watching "van life" travel videos, the double standard of the privilege is stunning. Add to that the "back-packing" nomad.
And what about those Western backpackers that travel to low-income countries and then beg locals for money and accommodation, instead of funding their own trip themselves? 🙈
The "backpacking nomad" who dines and dashes is the worst.
Something else to add to the list: having a lot of children. Used to be that the more education and resources a family had, the fewer children. People with more kids were seen as financially irresponsible, or needing more help on the farm. Now I'm seeing influencers showing off their large families and stay-at-home mom esthetic. Same for homeschooling. I would also classify influencer homesteaders the same way. Used to be poor people who needed to grow a good portion of their groceries. Now it is more affluent people growing their organic, heirloom veggies. A note on gambling; More and more social services are being funded by state-run gambling systems. It is how they sell them to voters. Here in CA we have 2 measures on the ballot that expand gambling and promise to put many dollars into fixing the homeless problem. What I've seen with the lottery that was supposed to put additional money into education is that the state takes away normal funding which is replaced by the gambling funds, leaving the schools in the same place they were before the lottery was implemented.
A lot of those big family homeschooling influencers are quietly receiving money from conservative groups to promote the lifestyle. Algorithms are also being manipulated to promote their content as much as possible. They want more children raised not only in their political ideology but raised in ISOLATION from other kids who might accidently give them empathy for the poor or non-whites (oh the horror!) This is also why there is a push to remove libraries and destroy public schools. They want the only choices to be homeschooling, private schools, or no education at all. Its all about keeping their kids ideologically "untainted" up to voting age and to punish undesirables by keeping them uneducated and poor.
Tbh I’ve always viewed having too many kids irresponsible regardless of social status, because there is no way you can truly give 6 children quality time. But indeed it’s troubling the rise of “homestead” lifestyle content, I admit I can watch for cooking recipes or maybe a diy but the whole “we are so wholesome homeschooling our 20 kids” lifestyle is kind of disturbing.
An interesting note about the nails - since the extremely long nails make certain types of work difficult (and are in fact forbidden in many professions such as food service) it's an indirect way of signaling that the wearer has a desk job or another position that permits those nails. Upkeep and maintenance of them wasn't cheap even before they got more bougie.
Conversely, a basic gel manicure itself is now affordable to do at home - you can buy an LED lamp and a start polish set for about $20 on Amazon. When the salons became dangerous during COVID, many of the fancier manicures became a DIY thing instead of something you paid another person a lot of money to do (thanks to nail stamping as well as the cheap LED lamps.)
Chelsea, please you HAVE to make a video about the economy getting wrecked by US citizens at Mexico City and Guadalajara.
Is this the trend of US citizens running to Mexico to practice slow living? I saw a lady post about her 'slow life, 10-7 job' in Mexico on Twitter before, didn't think it was a whole thing
@@leminoade not sure if it's the same, but a lot of reports have come out about them doing report work and being compensated as if they were in the US
@@leminoade It is and gentrification sped up during the pandemic: A lot of white wealthy people came here on vacation because they could run around without face masks and decided to stay :P
Plus it's not just CDMX and Guadalajara: I recently visited Cozumel and it's basically another state of the USA at this point.
I almost choked on my food laughing when Chelsea said Mark Z should be forced to dress as the robber baron he is....where is the petition, I will sign!
I was only able to afford to buy myself a trailer after my divorce. My exhusband had a field day crapping on me for ending up back in a trailer (I grew up in one). I've carried that stigma with me since I moved in 4 years ago and often find myself lying to people about where I live or trying to hide it. But I nearly own my 2 bedroom 2 bathroom home outright and my mortgage is under 300 dollars a month...
Vermonter here - I can't tell you how many friends are struggling with housing right now. It's incredibly frustrating!! Thanks for calling it out.
My family lives in Vermont. My aunt mentioned her tax bill on her house and I almost fell out of my chair. No wonder why my 70 yr old uncle doesn't retire.
I'm in Virginia and we have something called personal property tax for cars. My bill was more this years than last. I can't imagine what the great migration is doing to property taxes.
#6 not listed in the video description is minimalism.
A few more additions for the list...
Borrowing money (see Anna Sorokin, Elizabeth Holmes, or Elon Musk)
Thrifting/buying secondhand
Drug use & excessive alcohol intake.
Not finishing college or having minimal education/training in chosen career field.
Dating for money/sex work (the amount of social media content made by "sugar babies" today is absolutely astounding to me).
List actually starts at 4:58
This brings me to an extra point she missed. Extra 5 minutes of free time to wait for the list is trashy when poor and self care when rich. 😂☹️
Thank you!
Something to keep in mind is the major difference between "old money" vs. "new money" behaviors. There are exceptions to every rule of course. But in my experience a lot of the more obnoxious behaviors (obsession with brands, trying to look poor because it makes you look rich) tend to come from people that have gained money much more recently and want everyone to know about it. Those that have been raised with significantly more money and/or had money for much longer often tend to be extremely understated and appear very average until you get to know them. There is often a level of discretion among the "older money" families. Often it can be for security reasons. People that have been truly wealthy long enough realize that broadcasting your wealth is a terrible idea. But also families that have stayed wealthy for some time also may start to realize they are stewards of the wealth, not the actual earners which breeds a level of frugality. That mindset makes a huge difference when it comes to spending behaviors. There is more emphasis on quality and the long-term impact of spending decisions over quantity/trends.
I couldn't possibly quote the whole essay I heard on it, but this point always reminds me of Elle Woods from "Legally Blonde." Her dad was the first in her family to have officially broken through the line into rich, so they were "new money," whereas everyone at Harvard was in families with it long passed down, marking them "old money." This then showcased in her tendency to embrace tackiness and flaunt the wealth she knew she had, whereas any other character at the school tended to dress very "plainly" in very expensive but bland-passing clothing. Idk, not super on topic to this video, but I always found it interesting. I tend to dislike rich of all flavours, but it's fascinating the ways people smother and hide or flaunt and showcase their wealth.
Thank you for the video😊! I can relate to a few of these, especially about the tiny home and minimalism. My husband and I live in London (UK) and our 1 bedroom flat is 440sq feet (around 41sq meters). It’s bright, clean and comfortable and we really enjoy it. Our furniture is as minimal as possible and we don’t like keeping a lot of stuff in general… So, let’s not listen to haters and live our lives in our own terms and within our means! 😊
This, absolutely. Haters gonna hate, you gotta live the life that's right for you.
I should've called it quits before I got into art school, but one of the most infuriating things I dealt with while there was trust fund kids dressing down and insisting that only they could make true art by spending lots of money on poverty aesthetics. Their overalls and new docs were chic and fashionable, but mine (I had thrifted vintage docs that I was also wearing at work) supposedly just made me look frumpy.
Not having any money, is the ultimate flex. Cute if you're rich, but a situation if you're not.
😂😂😂👍🏼👍🏼
Ok now your not talking about wealth but class. You can be poor and classy. Or wealthy and an asshole. That’s a whole other video
"taking gov't money"
I must say, I just love the jingle Chelsea sings at the start of recent videos.
I know right I love that she sings it herself.
Yes! It brought the biggest smile to my face.
Exactly! when you were talking about the housing crisis in Vermont i couldn’t help to think about this exact fenomenom happening in my hometown, Mexico City! As a local, it amazes me how the strees are being flooded with american and european citizens, looking for a better lifestyle but for less but withou thinking about the impact their arrival is having/will have on the local families, specially the ones that are earning minimum wages. What it’s more concerning for me it’s not the gentrification of already upper class or trendy neighborhoods like Condesa, Roma or Polanco, but the effects on other places of the city that are of high importance to many mexican families to obtain affordable housing and food! i’m referring to local markets, for example, that are now seeing as “pintoresque” places where foreigners will go to have very cheap food or goods that are cheap precisely because a sector of the society needs them to be that cheap.
Every day that passes it’s becoming more and more clearer how the city it’s segregating and it’s just sad.
While I disagree with a lot of this video, your point reminds me of all the current hype surrounding the cheap grocery store Aldi. I remember children being ashamed to have Aldi branded food 30 years ago. My aunt once said when white people shopped at Aldi they looked like they were hiding. They'd peep around corners to make sure no neighbors saw them there and turn up their noses at people with overflowing carts who used it for their primary grocery store while they just "picked up a couple of things there because it was convenient". 😂
Every single one comes down to choice. If one has a choice, it's classy. If one has no choice, it's trashy. Similar to two identical lifestyles being perceived as independent or lonely. If you choose to be alone, you are self-sufficient and free. If you do not choose to be alone, you are lonely. How we perceive and experience most things in life boils down to whether or not it's a free choice or an imposition/obligation/necessity. Choice, in other words, is life's biggest luxury.
Sometimes, even when it's a choice, people can be looked down on for that choice if they're sacrificing something that someone else deems more important.
I choose not to socialize, I'm seen as a lonely person or as "self-centered".
My sibling had to go back to work after having their kid and was seen as "being selfish, putting money over time with their child" by many extended family members, completely ignoring the financial needs of my sibling's family
also all the products that have been coopted by gentrified shops, think handmade or natural products.. like handmade bread is the standard in small towns but in a large city it will be super expensive in a gentrified neighborhood and be branded as artisanal. Or natural loofahs, which I used to get from my grandparents who lived in a rural area but were looked down upon by wealthier people until bourgeois 'natural living' type of shops started selling them with a huge markup and now they're boho chic? Absurd!
The minimalism thing, it hit me when I watched a couple of videos of this one person who had decluttered her home in the US and moved to Europe (one of the expensive EU countries, mind you). She explained how her and her husband had saved thousands of dollars in a year and got a lot from selling stuff too, all numbers that I would need to work for years to earn, let alone save up. The new home she showed at the end was indeed clutter-free, but it was also a freaking mansion with chandeliers and hardwood floors...
If this is the minimalist youtube I'm thinking of, you should watch her video discussing her and her husband's backstory. Those people have 100% worked for what they have now and should not be demonized for that.
But yes, what she and her husband were able to achieve is ABSOLUTELY not realistic for most people.
@@OdinsSage I don't think I was trying to demonise her. I was just using her as an example, not trying to say she is a bad person at all. But still getting a really big and expensive home, albeit without a lot of stuff in it, is unrealistic for most but also not that minimalist either. Big homes aren't environmentally friendly and all that, do they need this kind of space etc. My point is she has found a lifestyle that makes her happy and fits her needs, which is great, but framing it as some sort of virtuous path? I just don't see it.
Completely agree with tiny homes. Don't tell me you're living more environmental when you own two tiny homes (his and hers) with 2 on-site shipping containers to store everything.
It pisses me off when people say poor people shouldn't have things like a smart phone. They're so necessary in this day and age, particularly if you're job hunting or need to be able to check work emails throughout the day not matter where you are. Or when people say you shouldn't eat things like avocados if you're poor. Why do we normalize this idea that a large swath of the population shouldn't be able to afford a $1-$2 avocado??
There’s a reason no one on Succession is a billboard for major fashion houses. Money talks, wealth whispers. New money wants to prove itself to old money, not realizing old money will never see them as equals.
Succession is also a terrible show.
@@ImYenaChoi I disagree, but to each their own!
Okay, I need to jump in and say Gel and acrylic ARE different types of nail modification it was not a rebrand, they both require different techniques. While the article has a point it is misinformative.
They look the same though
So do diesel and petrol, what's your point?
Yes!! The statement/ point should have been "obviously fake nails" because that is the current trend. But honestly the cost of getting nails have exponentially increased so it has become a wealth marker to have a well done new set w/ nail art every 1-2 weeks. A full set used to be about $25-40 & $10-20 for fills now its closer to $100 for a full set and $50 for fills! And that's not even including nail art! I've heard people say they spent $150-200 on getting their nails done!!
@@highbrowife so do sugar and salt - which one are you adding to your hot drinks?
@@roche320 they look the same, they do the same: ugly nails. More questions?
OMG- the driving less thing! I live on acreage in a rural area. Several months ago we got bus service 3 times a day, plus there is another less convenient one nearby. Never having taken a bus, I tried it and am now hooked. It's like a private limo, there are often no more than 4 people and I find myself going in to the city more and interacting with far more people. Imagine if we all took the bus just one day a week? I am prepared for rumours of losing my license and so on :)
As someone who was an au pair in the US, its really crazy to my what child care can cost. I worked for two families with four kids each and it was cheaper for them to hire an au pair than paying for various day care and after school programs for all the kids. That is to say, I cost them 20.000 dollars a year. 10.000 for my stipend and 10.000 for the au pair agency. And this is considered the "cheap" option in comparison to a nanny. Its shocking to me since I come from a country where childcare is basically free...
Understandable
You got paid only 10,000 a year in the US? How is this legal??
@@spammusubi8596 because they take the minimum wage and then subtract certain sums because you get room and board with the family. Its an exchange program. The most annoying fact was paying taxes. If I was American and would only earn the same amount of money, I would not have to pay any taxes but since I am a foreigner I had to. That was 1.000 dollars a year and was much worse, that actually felt illegal of at least discriminating
@@lindakirste4540 "hosting" service people in their house is the worse, they exploit you more, you're like available 7/7 because of it and they're substracting the cost of it from your earnings it's so disgusting... Working for rich people is getting more and more like being a servant.
@@capucnechaussonpassion14 ok, well, that might be the case sometimes and I certainly had two different experiences. But it was a good experience for me, I just wanted to make a point about how expensive childcare is.
Something looked down upon when one is poor, versus celebrated when one is rich: literally any act of immediate economic self-interest!
An annual FAMILY income of $75k is not rich. Like especially in today’s society.
I taught my daughters since they were young the benefits of bargains and buying (for the most part) on sale items. My oldest daughter is a pro about finding good sales and couponing (if that is a word). My youngest does not like to pay full price for anything and she also likes thrift stores. My daughters are adults and have their own lives now and they always say “why pay more when I can go for a bargain.” I go to outlets when I want something better.” I don’t subscribe to trends or anything like that.
Anyhow, this was a great video. Thank you so much!
Ugh, when I worked in Shanghai countersignalling was MASSIVE, and it drove me nuts because colleagues would dress down and then would comment on how I dressed. I think it bothered me because I felt that the attitude behind countersignalling usually ended up coming across in the employees' attitudes, regardless of their rank/position/status at the company. I recognize that there's a cultural layer added in this instance, but the viewpoint was the same as what was mentioned in this video.
Susan Alexandra’s ENTIRE brand is quintessential “tacky when poor, classy when rich”
I searched this brand, are they also a person? I found a "bread box bag" and I'm very confused.
Ohhhh this brand explains why there was a bead encrusted home-good basket at my local Nordstrom rack (work) for like $100+ on clearance and it wouldn't budge through the end of last winter.
I worked in event management for many years and the one thing that was always a constant. Rich people, don't just love free stuff, they expect it. The richer the crowd was, the more they would take. Eat every morsal of food (including steal the sugar packets), drink every last drop of drinks, demand free merch. The majority of wealthy people don't even pay for their own tickets. In my experience, the richer they are, the more free stuff they demand.
I wish I was rich enough to be eccentric! 😂. I like staying home and reading. Barely any makeup. Tshirt dresses and cotton fabrics.
I would add that negotiating is often tied in to culture. I know quite a few South/Central Americans were it is expected to negotiate. Prices are purposely inflated bc shop owners expect those customers to haggle, no matter the income level of the customers.
yeah this,
I seen both rich people who just be like "yeah it nothing i will pay for it" and people who do haggle, and i think a lot of it is more likely boil down to culture than like a stereotype that rich people do
in my circle of (rich) friends, I actually don't really see people negotiating. Maybe I'm just friend with people with social anxiety or something but as someone with social anxiety myself if I can pay the problem away i would just pay so I don't have to confront and argue
I live in El Salvador, and yes, it's very common for people to haggle, though I don't like the culture behind it, because sometimes people act like this with their friends who have small business and instead of supporting a local business, people prefer to haggle instead of paying the full price (many times for quality stuff or services, when maybe other alternatives around the same quality level are either overpriced, or big corporation owned).
Like, I knew people who wouldn't buy a plant from a friend because "it's too expensive" or "because if they know how to reproduce a plant, why not give it to a friend?", when plants literally consume resources like soil, water, sunlight, space and TIME, WORK, mostly if they're delicate plants.
Though I'd assure you, these people would buy the same plant but smaller and overpriced somewhere else, just because it might be a place where you can buy plants and chill (like having a coffee with friends, or just catching up on gossip).
So, I have my reservations regarding haggle culture in El Salvador, because sometimes it affects common people, whereas people won't haggle at all at a multi-million dollar corporation.
That's true Shannon
Idk it depends on the country. I'm from Argentina and you would not caught me dead haggling with anyone, it would be considered beyond rude and out of line.
@@morphinpink Not sure if you were replying to Shannon or not but yeah that's kinda the point she's making, it really tie to the culture (country)
This video hits home for many reasons! First, my kitchen is way smaller than yours 🤣 Second, I'm an immigrant and I live in a van, I have never been poor, but I also never had a lot of money. Tiny homes have definitely been too glamorized and are not a cheap way to live. But everything can be done more affordable if you really want to! We had no savings, and we couldn't get a loan or borrow money because we were both on working visas. We could only lease the van which would cost us 30k over several years, but at least it was an option. We've built the whole inside ourselves by watching youtube videos. We only had enough money for the basics and have been adding and building our van for the past two years while living in it, with full-time jobs to cover all expenses! I would say the cost of the inside build, in the end, was about 10k.
But the real problem is that when you live in a vehicle and it breaks down, you need to find a place to live when the vehicle is in the shop. And these costs are never cheap! When our transmission broke, it cost 5k just to replace it and we slept in a car for three days. I have a video on my channel if you want to know more about the costs of a van breaking down, but the cost of repairs is over 12k by now.
Now after 2.5 years of living in a van, we are finally ok. We have an emergency fund, and the inside is finished. But there are several parts we still need to replace and the engine light pops up every couple of months. So living in a van is definitely not all rainbows and roses. However, by combining living space with transportation, we have cut the costs of living. We have monthly van payments, and phone bills+starlink, and in winter months we have to buy water and diesel (for heat). Also, we don't have to pay for any accommodations when we travel, we don't really buy things because we have no external storage space.
I would call myself a forced minimalist because I would definitely own more things if I lived in an apartment. But it is freeing that I don't have the need to buy things.
Van life is not cheap, but it can be very affordable and I can't see myself living in an apartment or a house anytime soon. 🫶
-getting money from the government
- doing drugs
Those are good ones
The differentiator from Tiny Homes as they're known in the movement vs what's basically just a small house/apartment is that the Tiny Homes are custom designed. So what people in that movement are really into it's no the tiny size, are least not necessarily, but the fact they get a custom living space for them.
Homes in suburbs are ridiculously large but with little good design to them, thanks to mass production of homes. So the Tiny Home craze to me is more about people craving good design.
I just want to say, i love your kitchen! I love the color of the cabinets and the flooring. Also, it has a window?! That's gold in NYC. I live in Brooklyn and my kitchen is similarly sized and i feel like a queen. People who make negative comments on our smaller (but still workable and appropriately sized) homes are boring and unoriginal.
Too much backstory to go into here, but I'll be moving into a tiny house next spring purely for survival reasons. I WISH I could park my tiny in the city where I can rely on public transport but municipal by-laws won't allow it. Tiny homes can be a great solution to the affordability housing crisis in a city like Toronto (where I currently live), but the by-laws to allow it are moving at a glacial pace. I'm learning there's so many layers to the onion that is tiny home living.
Most fascinating thing I learnt in this video is that my Stockholm 1950s apartment is a tiny home by American standards! It's 570 sqft: proper kitchen, living room, bedroom, and I find it spacious and nice for two people living here. I've also shared a 460 sqft apartment with two friends - and can admit that was on the tinier side. But your apartment definitely sounds comfortably large to me.
Thank you for talking about the re-branding of acrylic nails, its origin, and the new popularity - which has made it almost double the price it used to be.
Definitely agree! My father lives in a double wide trailer outside of city limits. That’s where I grew up and I didn’t see anything wrong with it. He’s not poor but not rich either. The trailer is actually pretty big - 3 rm / 2 ba. I was called trailer trash in high school. Also, the childcare thing is ridiculous! I can’t believe how much they charge! You’re exactly right that for some families it doesn’t make sense financially. For my husband and I that was the case. I quit my part time job to be a SAHM.
I quit to be a SAHM as well. It would have cost more than I made to put my kids in day care. Plus they both have special needs so finding them a spot would have been difficult.
@@faeriesmak Same for me on both reasons
We downsized from a 3500 sq ft to 1100 sq ft home, and still have everything we need! We also bought washer/dryer off the showroom floor for a deep discount, and bartered unneeded items for renovation work on the house. Big lifestyle changes with no pain or downside. We also virtually never pay full price for clothing, and are low buy on clothes
But gel nails are different from acrylic nails. Gel nails use a clear gel material and requires gel nail polish and a UV lamp to cure. Acrylic nails use acrylic powder and liquid, to be combined together on the brush to make some kind of acrylic paste, and it already has color embedded in it so it needs no polish.
❤ I love your channel bc I learn something every time I watch. This was more than I expected from the title. Thanks you TFD for all you do!! 🎉
I’m loving Chelsea in animal print 🔥🔥
She's just great !!!
I remember asking a cinnabon if they do end of day sales and the girl just snickered and said no. My coworker who was with me was so embarrassed 🤭
@@julm7744 Yeah I didn't have a problem with it, but I thought their reactions were pretty funny 😆
This! If you have products that you have to get rid off by the end of the day, why not sell it at discount 30 min before closing? It's better than literally tossing the product away. At least you cover the cost of the product.
They might do that at a small business cafe, restaurant, bakery, etc., but any corporation or franchise definitely would not do that. They'd rather throw out their leftovers then sell them on a discount. Such waste and greed, it's very upsetting.
Back in the day when I worked in fast food they let employees take leftovers home.
Part of it is audits. What if your line guy makes extra to sell them cheap to his friends! Every hot dog must be accounted for before throwing them away.
THANK YOU for talking about tiny homes/van life!!!!!
Here’s my two cents. As someone who lots her job in 2020 and was living in the big city. 🗽.
Also I’m Mexican. Born and race in Mexico came here in my 20’s
Ok, so I lost my job and could not afford to live in the city so I had to leave and go somewhere where rent and overall expenses could be low.
I have money save, and I knew that I had to plan ahead just in case I could not get a job ASAP. Things where where weird in 2020 and everything was very much risky.
Once I move out I encountered lots of hate from people saying exactly that! A city person coming over to make everything more expensive. 🙄 oh boy I have heard all types of insults from so many places, that now I’m actually very nervous to even said I used to live in the city. Even when I was looking for a new job. I was afraid to included that in my cover letter, and I think somehow influenced me getting interviewed at some local spots because of that reason.
Now let’s talk about MEXICO 🇲🇽 CITY
I have a friend who is Mexican, same as me born and race. He was also living in the city and once pandemic happen he had the ability to work from home. So guess what? He when back HOME 🏡 🇲🇽
Same thing, everyone hates him and he been actually got in some physical fights with people just because he move there.
Here’s my opinion, fine yes prices are higher specially for buying property or renting. The pandemic has really affect some communities. I understand the problem, but why getting mad at people like me or my friend. I think what has to happen is to created laws that help renters not taking advantages instead of putting all the anger out to people who move to those locations.
Exactly. Videos like this also perpetuate hate and I disagree with most of it. It seems most of it boils down to worrying about what other people think as well as leaving out other factors. The next thing people will say is you had the LUXURY to save money, make good financial decisions, and plan ahead. Well, isn't that a good thing!?
Ugh. I live in a rural area, that saw a huge influx of urban flight out of Toronto, Ontario, Canada during COVID. Housing prices were up 44% as of January.
Very informative! Thanks!
On a bit of an unrelated tangent - your kitchen looks so nice! I live alone in a 650 sqft condo and I also think it is the perfect amount of space for me, however where I live (Calgary) a lot of my peers, including single people living alone, are buying a townhouse or single family home. I'm very happy with my place because there is low maintenance (no yard work or shoveling) and I save on utilities, property tax, and time spent cleaning, but lately I find myself wanting a bigger house. Not because I need it, but because that's what everyone else is doing so I feel like I SHOULD want it. Not entirely sure where I'm going with this, but maybe what I'm trying to say is that I wish our North American society focused less on displaying our wealth through the (extra large or extra tiny) size of our houses, and more on what we actually need to meet our needs given our circumstances so we are not consuming way more than our fair share of resources.
the wildest negotiating story i know is recent from my cousins who got a 90% discount on a kitchen appliance because of some scratches.
😂😂😂😂👍🏼👍🏼
This was such a great video, thank you! Loved the tying in of consumer psychology, economics, and some pop culture trends as well ✅✅✅
Zuckerberg with Robber baron imagery-literally lol!
£400 dollar t-shirt that is the same as a £4 one. I'm not convinced about this. Around 15 years ago cotton t-shirts/tops became much thinner and started clinging to any unflattering outlines rather than having their own structure and making you look good. And I remember seeing two girls at work in very similar smart skirts that they had both dressed down with a plain neutral t-shirt. One looked good, one looked cheap. I'm assuming the good looking one was more expensive than the bad looking one. There's no way a $4 t-shirt looks as good as an expensive one. I think you get what you pay for, up to a point. That point is probably pretty far south of $400 but I wouldn't think it's below £20-$40.
The difference could also be tailoring.
There are good vs cheap t shirts. But typically your choices are *cheapest* or luxury. Linus of LTT constantly complains that consumers will always buy the $4 item even if the $6 is twice the quality. And they have started selling *unbranded* T-shirts because there's apparently a niche demand for quality plain T shirts that are priced reasonably. But it is likely niche.
@@doomedwit1010 Right, but how can you tell which one is better quality? I've realised from my mdf sideboard vs my wooden desk, one aspect of quality is solid materials, 'if it gets chipped is it ruined'. Yes for the mdf sideboard (not totally ruined but somewhat damaged) no for the wooden desk. I don't mean only buy ridiculously expensive stuff, but take good care of the mdf items. I could also cover the surface with glass relatively cheaply.
I bought a poor quality bird feeder with plastic parts becuase I was all, what do you need metal for? Then the birds/squirrels destroyed it and I was all, Now I get it. So I bought the expensive feeder with the metal parts. Though the plastic one would have been perfectly good enough to sit unused in my shed. So in a way, when you are inexperienced and ignorant, when you might not end up using the thing you buy, you should do research and ask people, or actually get the cheapest one. Perhaps it also comes down to lack of trust in sales staff having your best interests in mind.
@@chrisd725 That's the challenge. My experience has been the cheapest is usually a mistake, and the most expensive are usually getting more than half their "value" from branding. But it depends. Looking at furniture clearly wood costs a lot more (like $200 manufactured is $300 unfinished rubberwood is $800 for oak. But you can spend $5,000. I was looking at chairs. $300-$500 for the cheap chair, $2500 for a genuine stressless in leather, $10,000 for like a herman miller or the original name brand of the light open build recliner which my sister and friend immediately sent me links to). But when spending more is worthwhile is information you can't get easily.
Another example some six outlet adapters are far safer and better built, but unless you do a tear down it is impossible for the consumer to know which ones are genuinely safer and better built. The manufacturing cost difference between the two might be less than a dime so price is never a guaranty. I've seen electricians recommend $1 more expensive outlets because it's only a dollar and they're better and well electrical safety is not the place to cheap out. But there's really no way for the average consumer to tell if it's $1 more because it's a brand they should recognize or $1 more because there's an extra $0.03 of insulation that matters.
Obviously the real key is to have money so you can afford to make a mistake. If you have a $500 and a $400 and $500 table saw the $400 may very well be the best one. But it might be the $500. Or they might all be the same. If you have enough money you can buy the $300 or and replace it later or $500 amd of you get a little ripped off no big deal. But if you are strapped for cash... $300 and pray is probably where you go. But that's probably a different scale issue than $20 vs $12 vs $4 t-shirts vs $50 T-shirts. Which largely comes down to the $50 are probably quality - but as between the $6, $12 and $20, hard to say without wearing each one for a day and washing it a couple times.
Van life is what I immediately thought of. Feels like homelessness tourism for trust fund kids. When I lived in Denver you would see worn out Rvs/ Vans with unhoused living in them and a couple streets over a shiny white van with someone upper middle class living in it. The difference was that the person in the shiny can go climbing, hiking or snowboarding every day and the unhoused cannot.
I just wanna say gel nails are different than acrylic nails. It’s not just pretending they are. Different chemicals are used.
How bout having lots of kids. Something that is seen as trashy if your low income but aspirational your wealthy.
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼
Accurate. Case in point: Joanna Gaines.
Having any amount of kids is environmental disaster. Earth is overpopulated.
Yes, but I do see the point though. There is nothing classy abt having a bunch of kids you can't adequately take care of financially or otherwise.
A love a good double standards video.
I rent a room in a house rather than having my own apartment. Some of my dates judge me, but I don't care. I don't like living alone, and I like having money to help my mom (I grew up pour and my mom still needs help)... I think it's not judged as much because I have a good paying job, as opposed to if I didn't... I still have to budget and be careful or it's amazing how quickly I can be in the negative.
Breastfeeding 🤱 has also taken this trajectory . For certain people , it was considered unnecessary and a nuisance with the advent of mass produced formula . When I had my kids , I felt the pressure TO breastfeed bc of it’s reported immune and bonding benefits . But what about the moms who couldn’t or didn’t want to breastfeed ? Those who had to return to work earlier ?
You’re supposed to do what’s best for the child as a mother. Some women have anatomical difficulty which is understandable but I don’t condone picking a crappy job over the long term health of the child. I’d rather be unemployed and breastfeed the kid for 6 months.
@@kateg1570 You just made the point...
Picking up that crappy job over making the time to breastfeed is what prevents a lot of parents and their infant children from experiencing malnourishment, homelessness, and potentially even death. *You* still need to eat too.
@@findingagain exactly.
First time watcher but I am subscribing. You have only begun to scratch the surface with this topic! I have been on both sides and can only confirm how right you are!