Well it kinda destroys the point of katherine's original eding since catherine is litterally stealing it.... Katherine was the one vincent got in a serious relationship with, becoming more responsable ect, and catherine's ending was him still enjoying freedom with her. I'm glad for catherine fans they get this ending, but that's kinda unfair.
@@popkhorne5372 probably cause it's no mystery the creators really meant to create the game Catherine around the character. They just needed to justify why people had to do her route instead of K. Lol personally I like C more but K is alright I guess.
How can i get this ending? because all the guides tell different things some Say You need the meter to be at blue and answer YES to everything in the confessionary and others Say You need to have the meter in neutral and answer NO, YES, NO
@@edren9137 I know this is late but I kept my meter mid-neutral blue (so not too blue not not neutral, either), mostly ignored Katherine, paid lots of attention to Catherine, and mixed in both chaos and order answers during the final stage. Hope this helps or you’ve already got the ending!
I guess Vincent apologized to Catherine for glancing at Katherine profusely and sincerely so she forgave him. It IS hard to ignore that Katherine's good looking despite her flaws personality wise.
@Tum Tum happy is a hard word, her have the same relationship that she had with vincent, something abusive that made him fall in the spiral of problems
@@theprofesionalist7927 I'm pretty sure the only happy ending she got was when she became famous and dumped Vincent's ass. Well aside from actually marrying him but I wouldn't make Vincent go through that, would you?
@@CopyCatPhantom No; not at all. As I said before Vincent cheated, but I can see why because he was in a terrible relationship and Catherine was like the perfect match for him.
@@theprofesionalist7927 cheating is not justificable but in real life we have the pattern where if one of the members of the relationship is toxic and is preoccupied more with other things than the partner (not meaning that wanting the person get a raise is not preoccupying but the way that the person says without supporting what they already have is) usually ends In cheating for one of the sides, usually the one that is mistreated
Javier Gomez Well considering this game is about dreams killing people if they cheated and Phantom thieves stealing hearts in dreams too, seems plausible. Also mementos or momentos was a place similiar to the stairs but catering to other human faults, So yeah. Edit: faults not failts, typo And Spoilers: there is an easter egg with the folks from P5
WeaponXSigma they were talking about the old ending since that is the only Katherine bride one, I think. You probably figure it out already but just letting you know.
This is the have your cake and eat it too ending, it's actually really sweet, I'm guessing Catherine made it so that they both had retained their memories.
Great. I still prefer Catherine ending. I love her ending with Vincent becoming a the demon lord and such it's funny as fuck for me. And this ending is actually pretty wholesome,Catherine loves Vincent so much she changes the past. It's wonderful. Aaaand there's no cheating to begin with! Favorite ending.
@@yourworstnightmare1164 i dont think so, because he has memory, he knows all of her doing and treasure her more. He goes through life and death situation for that, i believe he will appreciate his new life
I love imagining Catherine as a mama. Seems unusually wholesome to me that such an apparently sultry woman is dynamic and complex enough of a person to also bear and rear children.
I also agree that this is the best ending because with this ending, the past is changed so nobody actually dies in the nightmares since in the old future, Thomas Mutton agreed not to bring anyone through any more trials
Hey now, becoming the most powerful demon of all and drowning in bitches is a damn good ending. So is this one, but on the opposite end of the spectrum.
I CAN I CAN, OOOOHHH THANK GOD I CAN, BLESS THE VOICE ACTORS FOR BOTH CATHERINE AND TEDDIE FOR HAVING DIFEREENTS VOICES AND THE FACT THAT CATHERINE IS A GROW UP WOMAN REALLY HELPS .
I love the new true endings, they show how the girls develop and matured too because of Vincent. I used to be a big fan of the true freedom ending, but now I can't choose which true ending I wanna have.
I always preferred Catherine over Katherine. And I'm glad her relationship with Vincent came down to this. Its so wholesome. The most wholesome thing I've ever seen.
@@xecillmaze4740 Not sure on every fans opinion, from what I see People usually went for Catherine or the freedom ending (my fave route!) It's probably because, as much as she is meant to be the woman you go for a steady life, she came off as too controlling and the way vincent and kaths relationship was portrayed, they don't seem to really click as a good healthy couple. Even in the former true Katherine ending they didn't seem to have chemistry.
@@shotaverde2673 Keep your alignment to neutral and answer texts at the bar in chapter 5 (the ones in regards to the pianist). After reaching chapter 9, provide chaotic alignment answers before you complete 9-6.
Anyone catches on the irony that with the new timeline, Katherine is the one who doesn’t want to get married, even though the other guy is pretty willing
@@subhankarbaral9236 I'm disappointed in Katherine. She's proving to be a real ice queen, isn't she? Why can't she express her emotions more often and better? Also, she needs to quit coming across as a gold digger if she isn't actually one already.
@@subhankarbaral9236 Katherine wasn't a gold digger. Katherine wants Paul to get a raise only because if they're getting married they'll need to be financially ready for that as it's taking a huge step forward. Did I mention marriage is expensive? So yeah she has the right idea. Although when she's with Vincent, she's happy about marrying him unlike with Paul... -Shows who she really loves.-
I would have thought Jonny would’ve married Katherine since the scene at the bar when Jonny told the group he asked katherine out from another ending ( I think natural ending)
This ending is very touching. Looking from Catherine’s perspective, she gave up her entire demon life to be with Vincent, live a human life and start a family with him. She was in love with him THAT much.
A good ending with Catherine where Vincent put a ring on it, gotten "busaaay!", and had cute lil' hellspawn with her! And what's this?! Erica stayed a man and Toby came out the closet too?! Ooooohhh, count me in!
So, Eric still became Erica. It just happened later. Apparently, Eric transitioned to Erica in the original timeline after a toxic relationship. In this timeline, he/she transitions after more thought on the matter so to me it feels healthier.
...t'would seem that Catherine's previous claim of "the whole kid thing being off the table" was unsubstantiated (3:56) while knowing who still wears the horns in this relationship.
NotABot55 you have to remember that you can only get this ending if you send Rin’s song to Catherine. As it was said in game her song is supposed to open people’s hearts and awaken new possibilities. Therefor it must have changed Catherine’s mind about the kid thing.
If you remember, the whole deal of their relationship was having Catherine still "work" as a succubus but have Vincent as her true lover and companion. I understood the "kid being off the table" thing as Cathering obviously refusing to have children because just like in any job, having and raising children tends to get in the way
But wouldn't this mean joker is half-demon, that wouldn't make any se... (remembers how demonic joker's smile can be) oh... yeah, this would make total sense.
I do like this ending better Vincent seems much happier in this ending and Catherine seems to genuinely be I love with him he is now a happy family man
Catherine: forever... The way she said it was so ominous, I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop but happily accept that my suspicion is proven wrong. ..
It's not becoming The Demon King of the Underworld, but it's an Ending where I'm with Catherine, and that's all that matter. Besides, this is *much* more wholesome. *_And adorable!_*
About the last photo...is that black haired kid is joker (amamiya ren) ??? If yes that explain why his persona is looks like a devil lol 😂😂😂 just random theories cross my mind
Honestly I think this is the cannon ending if we include Persona 5. Think about it, the main protagonist has curly hair, a rebellious nature (which fits Vincent given he doesn’t fully commit to Katherine in this ending) and on top of it all there’s a kid in that last photo who looks just like a kid joker.
People who haven’t played an ATLUS game before: “How’d that happen?!” “They changed time!” Me, an intellectual: To answer that, we need to talk about *parallel universes*
Wow I did not see this coming lol, Catherine was just pretty much doing her job for boss and ended up falling for Vincent. Probably cause they both wanted freedom so it was similar to them both , Katherine was too stuck up and a workaholic, plus Vincent was holding her back cause she wanted something he wasn't ready for yet. This new full body is pretty interesting.
He wasn't ready for marriage yet gets married and has kids in this ending? No that's wrong. Vincent was moreso scared of marriage but during the story Vincent comes to realize that his fears were non existent and he was ready to marry Katherine and have a baby but she broke up with him and said she wasn't pregnant afterall. Katherine may have loved her career but she hinted to Vincent that she wanted to marry him and settle down with him. Plus, if you get all scenes and "secret" dialogues and texts, you'll see that Katherine isn't uptight and she expresses her emotions clearly and loves Vincent dearly and is very sweet and has a funny side.
@@MomoKanjaki I think this ending shows that it wasn't so much settling down that scared him but rather settling down with Katherine. She just wasn't the one, and Vincent wasn't the one for her either. Of course, this is only true in this ending. Vincent's thoughts and sexual orientation is left up to the player.
@@rinraiden Yeah in this ending he gets to be with Catherine, but the funny thing though is how Vincent goes into this alternate timeline with Catherine, but he STILL is seemingly in love with Katherine, which is why *I* believe that Katherine's actually his soulmate. The game itself has little easter eggs to Katherine and Vincent being canonly in love in almost all of the girls' endings.
@@MomoKanjaki Him looking at her as she passes by him in the street doesn't mean he's in love with Katherine. I mean, he has four children with Catherine and they look very happy together.
@@rinraiden Vincent was looking at Katherine with googly eyes and was blushing though. Lol But I'm not attacking people who prefer Catherine and Vincent together. 😆
I read the novel for this and Catherine was the end girl. Meaning the real endings with her are the true ones right? like the one here where they have a bunch of kids and the MC of Persona 5.
That's just a headcanon fans have come up with. And also that novel came out *after* the game. The arthur just did their take on it and let me be the one to say that Vincent is a bigger asshole in that novel.
Well this is really something😲😊. Time Travel, them being together, Katherine saying good for them even though she didn't look happy😐, marriage and her devotion, Vincent looking at Katherine blushingly and ear-grabbed, and best of all children. Almost better than the dark one but certainly better than average Catherine ending.
Honestly, I prefer this to be a canon ending to a certain degree. Vincent takes hold of his life and finally stops being chained down by expectations of society but still be able to function in the human world well alongside a changed Catherine. Katherine was obviously out of his league, she deserves to marry a man with just as much ambition as she does, unlike Vincent who was very indecisive at the beginning. It works out for both of them.
@@javiervasquez8995 Well Catherine went back in time just to fix her and Vincent's life, not necessarily including his friends. So, it's Katherine's fault for ending up with an incompetent fool again lol at least, the guy seems like he has a better job than vincent.
@@xecillmaze4740 Lol you're right haha. 😅 Still i guess it KIND of sucks that she didn't get to have a "happy ending" the way Vincent did. 😮 You could argue it's her fault anyway in regards to her relationships so i guess it doesn't matter in the end. 😏
2 things. 1: idk which ending is more appealing, the normal true ending where he becomes a Demon Lord(god?) with his own harem...or having a woman who can control space and time only to give him the same experiance he had with Katherine but with Catherine instead who could also aid him in getting what he strived for in life...tough call. 2: 3:57 Lucy from Fairy Tail upper left, and Joker from Persona bottom left...the pieces fit together! o.o
So if rin(Qatherine) is a alien in form of woman... and catherine is just a demon in form of woman... thats mean katherine its just the only real human woman there...
I take it this happened before Akira became Joker and leader of the Phantom Thieves?😂 Sorry, I think Akira sounds way cooler then Ren. After Akira discovers the Metaverse and unlocks his power. Akira: Ok dad, I believe you now.
I can just imagine vincent trying to talk to cath about how he remembers his past life before the rewind and turns out cath erased her memories in the process and learning about it creates a paradox of some sort and shit gets fucked up. Such a good way to turn it into a bad ending lmao.
This was cute but I think it missed the point of the choice between the two Ckatherines. Oh well, it's a feel good ending for Catherine, so I guess it's alright.
@Tum Tum Lemme explain~ :) It's not about the events inside the story, but it's more about the integrity of the story. Catherine was an obvious allegory for cheating and the story doesn't necessarily tell you that two-timing is all bad. In fact~ the game actually wants you to COMMIT to a decision. It's either you risk it all, ready to burn bridges and change who you are for the sake of a manic pixie dream girl. OR You back out, valuing the relationship you already have and re-sparking it, working together in this conflict, accepting each other's flaws. But no matter what you choose, someone will get hurt and that's the harsh truth of cheating and loyalty. and get this~ *IF* you don't commit to a decision and be Mr. Neutral, you end up hurting both sides. So the game actually punishes you for being on the fence. So this whole fairy tale ending where everyone lives happily ever after is a bit out of place for this game. It's flat out fan service because sugar is easier to sell. Now, it's no longer Catherine, it's just any other dating sim with puzzles in it.
@@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 I definitely see where you're coming from and I agree, to a degree. (Heh) *_But there's things we need to talk about-_* 1.) Catherine wasn't *just* an *_"Allegory for Cheating."_* In a lot of ways it's one big (occasionally convoluted) Meta-Narrative about Society, and the many different Rules we've placed around it- We have shit like *_Love & Relationships,_* *_The Value of One's Self & Freedom,_* *_The Rat Race & Societal Pressure,_* even *_Biology (as Mundus drones on about the Importance of Mating)._* And that's just off the top of the head after many years since playing. *_The Game doesn't tell you that two-timing is all bad, because Society has been hardwired to decide that it is alread bad. But the Individual is the one who decides what is good and bad and how to rationalize/justify it._* 2.) *_You're right that the Game wants you to COMMIT to a Decision, but you're missing what those decisions really are:_* Catherine is a Succubus yes. Catherine's Job is to take Men off the Straight & Narrow Path yes. But she isn't *_just_* a *"Manic Pixie Dream Girl."* Or a Waifu. She represents Indulgence and Lust, Selfishness. She's meant to represent what the Antithesis of *"Structure"* is because she actively undermines it. Just as Satan did to God when he created Humans. The reason we became King of the Underworld by choosing Catherine was because it represented being so dissatisfied with the *"chains"* of Society, with the confines of Humanity that we desired to snap them off completely. We craved something more than the mundane life we were told we're supposed to live because by clearing an actual *_"Tower of Babel"_* we decided we deserved more. For us, it wasn't a Trial *"to prove we weren't a Cheater,"* it was an awakening to what we were truly potential of. *_(I might talk about why this new Ending is good and actually undermines the original while keeping its point of being the antithesis to something in another comment if anyone wants but this is already gonna be long.)_* *_Or_* You back out, valuing the relationship you already have, and resolve to change *_"who you are"_* to make it work. Katherine represents Structure. She is the Pinnacle of what Society would deem a good Relationship/Partner. You see that on display throughout the Game and even in the Community for it. And for those who like her, those who pride themselves in being lauded by the Community, and those who do cannot see any instance where cheating would be okay, we choose her for it. We clear the Tower to prove to ourselves and everyone else that we deserve Katherine, that we can rise to the occasion to become more than what others say we are, that we are what Society would call *"A Standup Guy."* But people tend to portray Katherine as more than what she is. Even in the Original Game & Good Ending, Katherine didn't drastically change who she was, because she never saw herself as the one who needed to. That was all Vincent. *_OR_* You can decide you no longer *_want_* the weight of a Relationship and sacrificing who you are for it. That was the whole point of the Neutral Endings. Vincent decides to pursue neither Relationships wanting instead to dedicate time for himself and make himself happy. Instead of doing what Society deemed he *_should_* do. *(Work a Dead End "Respectable" Job, get married, have Kids).* By clearing The Tower we realize, rather cynically, That all of this could've been avoided if we hadn't cheated with Catherine *_and_* if we weren't driven to that point by Katherine in the first place. And now we get to what really made me want to write this. No dude, the Game *only* punishes you for being Mr. Neutral if you are *indecisive* that is a key factor. If you're Mr. Neutral with the intent of picking yourself over either C/Katherines (like a morbid Option C) *_that is not a punishment on the Player._* *_It is however, a punishment if you are not able to make a decision between the two._* This is why the way you respond to Texts from both of them plays an impact on the Story & End. It's not just the Answers you give in The Confessional. Looking at that bit where you reduce this Ending to a *"Fairy Tale,"* I'm definitely going to say my piece on why I disagree, but another time. I've said far too much. *(I wonder if anyone was crazy enough to actually read this.)*
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I actually like this ending. Vincent restarts his life and starts a committed relationship and then goes on to have a family.
Yea i was surprised at catherine being a good girl, feel happy but also sad to the devil becoming good lol
Well it kinda destroys the point of katherine's original eding since catherine is litterally stealing it.... Katherine was the one vincent got in a serious relationship with, becoming more responsable ect, and catherine's ending was him still enjoying freedom with her. I'm glad for catherine fans they get this ending, but that's kinda unfair.
@@popkhorne5372 probably cause it's no mystery the creators really meant to create the game Catherine around the character. They just needed to justify why people had to do her route instead of K. Lol personally I like C more but K is alright I guess.
better then the demon orgy ending
@@scamin441 I disagree with you on that one. Demon Vincent ending is the best ending. This is a great ending too though
*Catherine's Father has left the chat*
*Demon Catharine has left the chat*
*Human Catharine has entered the chat*
*Yandere Catherine has entered the chat*
*Crappy Memes Entered the chat*
Duck360Gaming2
I think I can still hear him screaming/yelling
How can i get this ending? because all the guides tell different things some Say You need the meter to be at blue and answer YES to everything in the confessionary and others Say You need to have the meter in neutral and answer NO, YES, NO
@@edren9137 I know this is late but I kept my meter mid-neutral blue (so not too blue not not neutral, either), mostly ignored Katherine, paid lots of attention to Catherine, and mixed in both chaos and order answers during the final stage. Hope this helps or you’ve already got the ending!
Seeing Vincent become some badass demonlord was cool and all, but this ending gives a lot more closure to the two of them as a couple.
And they also had children too.
Pretty cool to see the new ending feel wholesome.
How about a polygamy Marriage ending?
@Jose Mendoza More than one waifu will end your laifu
@@ShinkuAura and their child would be half demons. Thats funny
@@ShinkuAura Yeah, the Demi-Human children!
> Gets caught looking at Katherine
>Next frame has 4 children with Catherine
> LOCKED DOWN
I guess Vincent apologized to Catherine for glancing at Katherine profusely and sincerely so she forgave him.
It IS hard to ignore that Katherine's good looking despite her flaws personality wise.
@@girlgarde Still, who cares about K when I got a girl like Catherine.
@@girlgarde What does Vincent have to apologize for? He did nothing to her.
Huh. So in this ending Catherine reverses time and charges the past. Least now he never cheated on Katherine.
Yup. Pretty much
@Tum Tum happy is a hard word, her have the same relationship that she had with vincent, something abusive that made him fall in the spiral of problems
@@theprofesionalist7927 I'm pretty sure the only happy ending she got was when she became famous and dumped Vincent's ass. Well aside from actually marrying him but I wouldn't make Vincent go through that, would you?
@@CopyCatPhantom No; not at all. As I said before Vincent cheated, but I can see why because he was in a terrible relationship and Catherine was like the perfect match for him.
@@theprofesionalist7927 cheating is not justificable but in real life we have the pattern where if one of the members of the relationship is toxic and is preoccupied more with other things than the partner (not meaning that wanting the person get a raise is not preoccupying but the way that the person says without supporting what they already have is) usually ends In cheating for one of the sides, usually the one that is mistreated
4:00 No wonder why Joker is such a devilish person, his mother is a demon afterall lol
Is this canon?
@@harliecabal9063. Oh God I wish Lol
@@Jay3up fucking same
Javier Gomez
Well considering this game is about dreams killing people if they cheated and Phantom thieves stealing hearts in dreams too, seems plausible.
Also mementos or momentos was a place similiar to the stairs but catering to other human faults, So yeah.
Edit: faults not failts, typo
And Spoilers: there is an easter egg with the folks from P5
His mother is Bayonetta and his father is Joker from Persona 2.
Catherine has nothing on those 2.
This is a 300% wholesome ending
Now this is the true and best ending finally I've been waiting for a ending like this
I can now rest in peace
You and me both
Me2
Me too that a ending i want to see
YEAHHHH EXACTLY BRO ME TOO💞👌
She deadass TURNS BACK TIME
JUST TO BE WITH VINCENT
BETTER THAN KATHERINE MCBRIDE TRUE ENDING
If you mean the new Katherine ending then thats not her true ending. Thats her new bad ending
@@WeaponXSigma
I find this to be better than Katherine's true ending where Vincent married her.
WeaponXSigma they were talking about the old ending since that is the only Katherine bride one, I think. You probably figure it out already but just letting you know.
Fuck that Bitch 🤣
Catherine is my favorite
This is the have your cake and eat it too ending, it's actually really sweet, I'm guessing Catherine made it so that they both had retained their memories.
That or forgot them
Great. I still prefer Catherine ending. I love her ending with Vincent becoming a the demon lord and such it's funny as fuck for me. And this ending is actually pretty wholesome,Catherine loves Vincent so much she changes the past. It's wonderful. Aaaand there's no cheating to begin with! Favorite ending.
Best and sweetest ending, although I do feel bad about Vincent since he does have his memories still.
@@yourworstnightmare1164 i dont think so, because he has memory, he knows all of her doing and treasure her more. He goes through life and death situation for that, i believe he will appreciate his new life
V & C FOREVER💞👌
3:59 something tells me that little boys first words were PERSONA!
Maybe Ryuji?
AlexisSteller YT he did dye his hair huh
Rene levi Jimenez Paredes NOOOOOOOOO PLEASE TELL ME WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE SAME PERSON
Maybe...."For Real?!"
No it can’t be Ryuji
He is an only child
Plus his dad was abusive
3:47 *_They know about the meme_*
Sorry im new at this but whtas the meme?
meme?
@@jackblaster8349 Search for "Distracted Boyfriend meme", you'll see which.
*_HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW KIDS?_*
*(Although I genuinely think there isn't a better piece of Modern Entertainment to apply it right now than here)*
3:49 actually
I love imagining Catherine as a mama. Seems unusually wholesome to me that such an apparently sultry woman is dynamic and complex enough of a person to also bear and rear children.
I also agree that this is the best ending because with this ending, the past is changed so nobody actually dies in the nightmares since in the old future, Thomas Mutton agreed not to bring anyone through any more trials
V: Can't change the past! C: Hold my succubus power
She used KILLER QUEEN: DAISAN NO BAKUDAN
3:49 meme time
Sweet a "good" ending with Catherine, may have to get this game now.
Her good and true ending were pretty good too, just not on this level.
Hey now, becoming the most powerful demon of all and drowning in bitches is a damn good ending. So is this one, but on the opposite end of the spectrum.
Even when Katherine literally never gets with Vincent, Jonny still can’t get between her legs lmao
IIRC he gets with her in the other Catherine endings.
CidGuerreiro1234 No he doesn’t. Jonny says he asked her out and she said no.
@@HeyMartin21 I see, you're correct. Jonny gets rejected either way.
@@CidGuerreiro1234 Well, Jonny does get married to an alien girl in Rin's True Ending.
@@subhankarbaral9236 Which is cringe af lmao.
3:58 - Looking cute, Joker! :3
Is that actually joker tho (i never played catharine nor persona just seen a bit of gameplay and some endings
So it's confirmed that joker is half succubus and human lol
@@newbplaygames It'd explain his charisma with the ladies, at least.
@@vfaulkon as a joke tho but I hoped for it
@@newbplaygames lowkey makes sense.
Do i sense a headcanon?
I'm really happy that i got this ending on the first run, I think it's my favourite
I love it too look how sweet catherine is
@@Duck360Gaming how do you get this ending Please i love Catherine
Same here buddy! This ending rocks, my next go around will have Vincent has the demon-King with Catherine (all red chaos choices)
@@thelonewolf7443 Yeah, I'm doing it too, but I don't really like it
I follow some guide instead I got fkin katherine ending when my choices dont align with her some bs
Holy crap, this is one of the most SWEETEST endings to a game I have ever seen.
3:51-3:53 in his defense, he has his memories
Fire puppies true
yeah, that's why vincent said: paul?? i thought u were dead
That makes it worse because he's still obviously in love with her. Lol Despite going in an alternate timeline, he can't help but admire her beauty.
@@GrimReaper___ i dont think it's that deep im pretty sure they just added that picture because it's a meme format
@@PenguinsAreColdish Highly unlikely. That's just a joke people say.
Catherine with her hair down looks like Teddie from Persona 4 during the cross-dressing pageant.
I can't unsee the similarity.
vikingdeath1 and they both look like Alice
What the fuck! GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD
Thanks, I can't stop thinking that now
I CAN I CAN, OOOOHHH THANK GOD I CAN, BLESS THE VOICE ACTORS FOR BOTH CATHERINE AND TEDDIE FOR HAVING DIFEREENTS VOICES AND THE FACT THAT CATHERINE IS A GROW UP WOMAN REALLY HELPS .
r/TIHI
I love the new true endings, they show how the girls develop and matured too because of Vincent. I used to be a big fan of the true freedom ending, but now I can't choose which true ending I wanna have.
I always preferred Catherine over Katherine. And I'm glad her relationship with Vincent came down to this.
Its so wholesome. The most wholesome thing I've ever seen.
Making Katherine even less of a popular choice than she already was.
So true lol
I thought K was the popular choice? Did it went upside down when full body came out?
@@xecillmaze4740 Not sure on every fans opinion, from what I see People usually went for Catherine or the freedom ending (my fave route!)
It's probably because, as much as she is meant to be the woman you go for a steady life, she came off as too controlling and the way vincent and kaths relationship was portrayed, they don't seem to really click as a good healthy couple. Even in the former true Katherine ending they didn't seem to have chemistry.
@@lurkerofthenight True freedom is my fav, he basically said fuck this noise I'm going to SPAAAAAAAAAAAAACE.
I always preferred K
I liked when he was a demon lord but the fact that he restarted his whole life with Catherine....I actually loved this ending more
i feel the exact same way
How do you get this ending I’ve been trying for awhile 🥲
@@shotaverde2673 Keep your alignment to neutral and answer texts at the bar in chapter 5 (the ones in regards to the pianist). After reaching chapter 9, provide chaotic alignment answers before you complete 9-6.
3:49 can we use this as the distracted boyfriend meme?
Well it's a reference to it so yeah
This ending is pure gold. Well i'm a romantic type so it is for me. Yeah
Anyone catches on the irony that with the new timeline, Katherine is the one who doesn’t want to get married, even though the other guy is pretty willing
Yeah, effect of changes in space-time continuum and proving her to be a gold digger.
@@subhankarbaral9236 I'm disappointed in Katherine. She's proving to be a real ice queen, isn't she? Why can't she express her emotions more often and better? Also, she needs to quit coming across as a gold digger if she isn't actually one already.
@@subhankarbaral9236 Katherine wasn't a gold digger.
Katherine wants Paul to get a raise only because if they're getting married they'll need to be financially ready for that as it's taking a huge step forward. Did I mention marriage is expensive? So yeah she has the right idea.
Although when she's with Vincent, she's happy about marrying him unlike with Paul... -Shows who she really loves.-
@@girlgarde She wasn’t a gold digger, moron
I would have thought Jonny would’ve married Katherine since the scene at the bar when Jonny told the group he asked katherine out from another ending ( I think natural ending)
Funny how the succubus gets the wholesome best ending. I really liked this one.
**sees high schooler Catherine's design**
Wow, who knew Lillie was a succubus the entire time?!
IS THAT A MOTHER FUCKING POKÈMON SUMO REFERENCE?!?
And a lot of time before there were theories about her being an alien instead. XD
This is the 6th time im watching this today. So Wholesome, love this couple.
This ending is very touching. Looking from Catherine’s perspective, she gave up her entire demon life to be with Vincent, live a human life and start a family with him. She was in love with him THAT much.
Yeah so true! But I still think that she has her demon powers though
She's still a demon
A good ending with Catherine where Vincent put a ring on it, gotten "busaaay!", and had cute lil' hellspawn with her! And what's this?! Erica stayed a man and Toby came out the closet too?! Ooooohhh, count me in!
Nine PointO or you could see it as Erica transitioning later whilst Toby remains straight
Eh i wouldnt say erica stayed as a man, juding from the line "may be closer then you think" it will probably happend in a later date
I believe Erica becomes a woman regardless.
So, Eric still became Erica. It just happened later. Apparently, Eric transitioned to Erica in the original timeline after a toxic relationship. In this timeline, he/she transitions after more thought on the matter so to me it feels healthier.
Seems like Eric stays as Eric this time, maybe later on.
Just wish we got to see or hear about Nergal...
...t'would seem that Catherine's previous claim of "the whole kid thing being off the table" was unsubstantiated (3:56) while knowing who still wears the horns in this relationship.
She probably meant she DIDN'T WANT them, not that she COULDN'T HAVE the. which would have made more sense in the first place.
Really unsubstantiated. They had four of them things.
NotABot55 you have to remember that you can only get this ending if you send Rin’s song to Catherine. As it was said in game her song is supposed to open people’s hearts and awaken new possibilities. Therefor it must have changed Catherine’s mind about the kid thing.
@@LordOmnissiah THANK YOU Now i will get this Ending!! Hell yes
If you remember, the whole deal of their relationship was having Catherine still "work" as a succubus but have Vincent as her true lover and companion. I understood the "kid being off the table" thing as Cathering obviously refusing to have children because just like in any job, having and raising children tends to get in the way
4:00 joker ?
Vincent and Catherine are Joker's parents! Headcanon confirmed
Omg! (We never saw jokers real parents in p5 did we? This could be CANON!!!)
Or not
But wouldn't this mean joker is half-demon, that wouldn't make any se... (remembers how demonic joker's smile can be) oh... yeah, this would make total sense.
@@emmanuelviveros3399 *Satanael*
So this is the timeline that Joker was born?
Catherine said "It's rewind time"
The solo vincent one good but
this is by far the best wholsome ending for this game
dam now I want to buy it for just this ending
Catherine has some strong genes. Normally blonde hair is recessive to dark hair.
It is demon genes though so....
She's a demon after all so I guess demon genes can overpower human genes......
HEY! Thats gekoukan high crest i see there (2:47)
Babybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybaby
Well it's Atlus their have to put some Persona reference in the game somewhere
@@AdlyAzmi yea, if you look REALLY REALLY Closely, you might see Joker from Persona 5 somewhere in the game.
Mass Destruction
@@JazzStation95 I remember that. He would be chilling in the club at a certain night in P3P.
_"I'm glad you came."_
Best way to start the video.
I do like this ending better Vincent seems much happier in this ending and Catherine seems to genuinely be I love with him he is now a happy family man
Catherine: forever...
The way she said it was so ominous, I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop but happily accept that my suspicion is proven wrong. ..
Damn. Catherine decided Vince was worth playing wholesome out of love.
Not the same greedy love as the first end.
Noice
You know when a new ending is so well done when you see healthy discussions about this ending and the previous ones
gotta love catherine long haired but her hair go into drills again when she is mad? priceless!
Wow this Catherine really shows how far she'll go in loving Vincent! I favor this ending.
It's not becoming The Demon King of the Underworld, but it's an Ending where I'm with Catherine, and that's all that matter.
Besides, this is *much* more wholesome. *_And adorable!_*
If vincent and catherin has children does that mean their child half demon??
About the last photo...is that black haired kid is joker (amamiya ren) ??? If yes that explain why his persona is looks like a devil lol 😂😂😂 just random theories cross my mind
As I can remember the sons and daughters of a succubuss or incubuss with a human are humans with great ability for magic or something
Al-Ghiffari Raihan Permana Sup
@@averagehi3enjoyer Fuck....now I can't stop thinking about it
Well Male succubus are like regular succubus just the opposite
this ending is absolutely amazing like they could make a whole show based off of this
Honestly I think this is the cannon ending if we include Persona 5. Think about it, the main protagonist has curly hair, a rebellious nature (which fits Vincent given he doesn’t fully commit to Katherine in this ending) and on top of it all there’s a kid in that last photo who looks just like a kid joker.
How to get endings:
catherine.fandom.com/wiki/Endings
3:57 ITS JOKER ITS REN REEEEEEEE
This is the TRUE, TRUE ending people wanted with C all those years ago.
I did too and now I finally have it! HOORAY!
People who haven’t played an ATLUS game before: “How’d that happen?!” “They changed time!”
Me, an intellectual: To answer that, we need to talk about *parallel universes*
An EDGE! is an EDGE!, you can't say it's only a half.
(4:00) Did not see that...
I suppose in a long run we did saw that coming...
The weird but happy and loving ending. I like it a lot. Bravo.
That ball of electricity gave me a serious bit of terminator deja vu!
3:57 That's Joker from p5. This is THE canon ending now.
Catherine's alternate ending is 100% better than Katherine's alternate ending
Can't believe this is the one Catherine ending I like. It's quite heartwarming.
And thus Joker was born.
The dude shouting get a room got me laughing more than I should have.
Wow I did not see this coming lol, Catherine was just pretty much doing her job for boss and ended up falling for Vincent. Probably cause they both wanted freedom so it was similar to them both , Katherine was too stuck up and a workaholic, plus Vincent was holding her back cause she wanted something he wasn't ready for yet. This new full body is pretty interesting.
He wasn't ready for marriage yet gets married and has kids in this ending? No that's wrong.
Vincent was moreso scared of marriage but during the story Vincent comes to realize that his fears were non existent and he was ready to marry Katherine and have a baby but she broke up with him and said she wasn't pregnant afterall.
Katherine may have loved her career but she hinted to Vincent that she wanted to marry him and settle down with him.
Plus, if you get all scenes and "secret" dialogues and texts, you'll see that Katherine isn't uptight and she expresses her emotions clearly and loves Vincent dearly and is very sweet and has a funny side.
@@MomoKanjaki I think this ending shows that it wasn't so much settling down that scared him but rather settling down with Katherine. She just wasn't the one, and Vincent wasn't the one for her either.
Of course, this is only true in this ending. Vincent's thoughts and sexual orientation is left up to the player.
@@rinraiden Yeah in this ending he gets to be with Catherine, but the funny thing though is how Vincent goes into this alternate timeline with Catherine, but he STILL is seemingly in love with Katherine, which is why *I* believe that Katherine's actually his soulmate.
The game itself has little easter eggs to Katherine and Vincent being canonly in love in almost all of the girls' endings.
@@MomoKanjaki Him looking at her as she passes by him in the street doesn't mean he's in love with Katherine. I mean, he has four children with Catherine and they look very happy together.
@@rinraiden Vincent was looking at Katherine with googly eyes and was blushing though. Lol But I'm not attacking people who prefer Catherine and Vincent together. 😆
Seeing vincent and catherine with their children makes me happy
Alright lets see here at 3:58
Anne from AoT
Ino from Naruto
Aya from parasite eve
Jin from Tekken
Wouldn't Persona 5's Joker be a better kid for the two though? Same company and canonically the same universe.
@@jeffreymoespot5402 we need half human half devils lol
@@Duck360Gaming demi fiend def works to fill that role
Joker’s Bizarre Adventure Part 1: Catherine Blood
3:57 plot twist: That's actually Ren/Akira/Joker
I read the novel for this and Catherine was the end girl. Meaning the real endings with her are the true ones right? like the one here where they have a bunch of kids and the MC of Persona 5.
That's just a headcanon fans have come up with.
And also that novel came out *after* the game. The arthur just did their take on it and let me be the one to say that Vincent is a bigger asshole in that novel.
Well at least with this ending, Steve is alive presumably. 🤞
I like this ending a lot. An ending where Vincent is actually happy with life. Kinda figure that he’ll be better off with Catherine.
When she says the word "Forever" on the first date 3:39
😂😂😂😂
0:11 little Easter-egg of the persona animals
I wish they did a scene where their children, who are half demon cause mischief for fun. Their grandfather would be so proud of them.
Well one of their children becomes a Phantom Theif in Persona 5
3:57 Joker, is that you?
Well this is really something😲😊. Time Travel, them being together, Katherine saying good for them even though she didn't look happy😐, marriage and her devotion, Vincent looking at Katherine blushingly and ear-grabbed, and best of all children. Almost better than the dark one but certainly better than average Catherine ending.
So basically Catherine used Killer Queen's Bite The Dust ability
Syaizer Kromez pretty much yeah
Honestly, I prefer this to be a canon ending to a certain degree.
Vincent takes hold of his life and finally stops being chained down by expectations of society but still be able to function in the human world well alongside a changed Catherine. Katherine was obviously out of his league, she deserves to marry a man with just as much ambition as she does, unlike Vincent who was very indecisive at the beginning. It works out for both of them.
Given that the guy who ended up dating Katherine DIDN'T seem like the decisive guy i doubt she also got what she wanted though. 😕
@@javiervasquez8995 Well Catherine went back in time just to fix her and Vincent's life, not necessarily including his friends. So, it's Katherine's fault for ending up with an incompetent fool again lol at least, the guy seems like he has a better job than vincent.
@@xecillmaze4740 Lol you're right haha. 😅 Still i guess it KIND of sucks that she didn't get to have a "happy ending" the way Vincent did. 😮 You could argue it's her fault anyway in regards to her relationships so i guess it doesn't matter in the end. 😏
2 things.
1: idk which ending is more appealing, the normal true ending where he becomes a Demon Lord(god?) with his own harem...or having a woman who can control space and time only to give him the same experiance he had with Katherine but with Catherine instead who could also aid him in getting what he strived for in life...tough call.
2: 3:57 Lucy from Fairy Tail upper left, and Joker from Persona bottom left...the pieces fit together! o.o
Turning a succubus into a normal lady with a nice family deeply offends me.
She's still a succubus mind you. 😉 Their children are definetly half-demons.
She's still a succubus, she just stepped down her "job" to be with Vincent and settle down
I would love too see the Bartender's reaction too them having kids!
oh booo hooo. deal with it. Best ending
3:50 I don't know why but this reminds me of something... Memes maybe 🤔🤔
This ending along with Rin's are the best endings in my opinion!
This ending is so much better than the old version
Its crazy to me that one of the kids looks exactly like the persona 5 protagonist
Damn I love those pictures at the end as well as that music box ver of Ode to Joy.
So if rin(Qatherine) is a alien in form of woman... and catherine is just a demon in form of woman... thats mean katherine its just the only real human woman there...
Yes but still vincent earned that punched
Well you're almost right but Rin is a man.
( 2:30 - 2:40 ) Oh cool, so Akihiko-senpai and Yosuke also attend to Rise' wedding huh.
Is no one gonna talk about Erica..??
That last picture is wholesome af
Vincent: And that's the story of how I met your mother.
Ren: You are so full of shit dad.
I take it this happened before Akira became Joker and leader of the Phantom Thieves?😂
Sorry, I think Akira sounds way cooler then Ren.
After Akira discovers the Metaverse and unlocks his power.
Akira: Ok dad, I believe you now.
We finally know joker's parents
Best ever Catherine game ending....!
Yeah, this version is a lot better than the 2 demon endings. It just seems more sweet this way.
I can just imagine vincent trying to talk to cath about how he remembers his past life before the rewind and turns out cath erased her memories in the process and learning about it creates a paradox of some sort and shit gets fucked up. Such a good way to turn it into a bad ending lmao.
1:35 You were trying to cross the border, right?
exactly my thinking but i dont do memes
This was cute but I think it missed the point of the choice between the two Ckatherines. Oh well, it's a feel good ending for Catherine, so I guess it's alright.
Ckatherines omfg i'm crying
CKQatherines
@Tum Tum Lemme explain~ :)
It's not about the events inside the story, but it's more about the integrity of the story.
Catherine was an obvious allegory for cheating and the story doesn't necessarily tell you that two-timing is all bad.
In fact~ the game actually wants you to COMMIT to a decision. It's either you risk it all, ready to burn bridges and change who you are for the sake of a manic pixie dream girl.
OR
You back out, valuing the relationship you already have and re-sparking it, working together in this conflict, accepting each other's flaws.
But no matter what you choose, someone will get hurt and that's the harsh truth of cheating and loyalty.
and get this~
*IF* you don't commit to a decision and be Mr. Neutral, you end up hurting both sides. So the game actually punishes you for being on the fence.
So this whole fairy tale ending where everyone lives happily ever after is a bit out of place for this game. It's flat out fan service because sugar is easier to sell. Now, it's no longer Catherine, it's just any other dating sim with puzzles in it.
theres 3 athrins ckq
@@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 I definitely see where you're coming from and I agree, to a degree. (Heh)
*_But there's things we need to talk about-_*
1.) Catherine wasn't *just* an *_"Allegory for Cheating."_* In a lot of ways it's one big (occasionally convoluted) Meta-Narrative about Society, and the many different Rules we've placed around it-
We have shit like *_Love & Relationships,_* *_The Value of One's Self & Freedom,_* *_The Rat Race & Societal Pressure,_* even *_Biology (as Mundus drones on about the Importance of Mating)._*
And that's just off the top of the head after many years since playing.
*_The Game doesn't tell you that two-timing is all bad, because Society has been hardwired to decide that it is alread bad. But the Individual is the one who decides what is good and bad and how to rationalize/justify it._*
2.) *_You're right that the Game wants you to COMMIT to a Decision, but you're missing what those decisions really are:_*
Catherine is a Succubus yes. Catherine's Job is to take Men off the Straight & Narrow Path yes. But she isn't *_just_* a *"Manic Pixie Dream Girl."* Or a Waifu. She represents Indulgence and Lust, Selfishness. She's meant to represent what the Antithesis of *"Structure"* is because she actively undermines it. Just as Satan did to God when he created Humans. The reason we became King of the Underworld by choosing Catherine was because it represented being so dissatisfied with the *"chains"* of Society, with the confines of Humanity that we desired to snap them off completely. We craved something more than the mundane life we were told we're supposed to live because by clearing an actual *_"Tower of Babel"_* we decided we deserved more. For us, it wasn't a Trial *"to prove we weren't a Cheater,"* it was an awakening to what we were truly potential of. *_(I might talk about why this new Ending is good and actually undermines the original while keeping its point of being the antithesis to something in another comment if anyone wants but this is already gonna be long.)_*
*_Or_*
You back out, valuing the relationship you already have, and resolve to change *_"who you are"_* to make it work. Katherine represents Structure. She is the Pinnacle of what Society would deem a good Relationship/Partner. You see that on display throughout the Game and even in the Community for it. And for those who like her, those who pride themselves in being lauded by the Community, and those who do cannot see any instance where cheating would be okay, we choose her for it. We clear the Tower to prove to ourselves and everyone else that we deserve Katherine, that we can rise to the occasion to become more than what others say we are, that we are what Society would call *"A Standup Guy."*
But people tend to portray Katherine as more than what she is. Even in the Original Game & Good Ending, Katherine didn't drastically change who she was, because she never saw herself as the one who needed to. That was all Vincent.
*_OR_*
You can decide you no longer *_want_* the weight of a Relationship and sacrificing who you are for it. That was the whole point of the Neutral Endings. Vincent decides to pursue neither Relationships wanting instead to dedicate time for himself and make himself happy. Instead of doing what Society deemed he *_should_* do. *(Work a Dead End "Respectable" Job, get married, have Kids).* By clearing The Tower we realize, rather cynically, That all of this could've been avoided if we hadn't cheated with Catherine *_and_* if we weren't driven to that point by Katherine in the first place.
And now we get to what really made me want to write this. No dude, the Game *only* punishes you for being Mr. Neutral if you are *indecisive* that is a key factor. If you're Mr. Neutral with the intent of picking yourself over either C/Katherines (like a morbid Option C) *_that is not a punishment on the Player._* *_It is however, a punishment if you are not able to make a decision between the two._* This is why the way you respond to Texts from both of them plays an impact on the Story & End. It's not just the Answers you give in The Confessional.
Looking at that bit where you reduce this Ending to a *"Fairy Tale,"* I'm definitely going to say my piece on why I disagree, but another time. I've said far too much. *(I wonder if anyone was crazy enough to actually read this.)*
This is the canon ending and I will fight anyone who disagrees