Julia Shaw on "Memory Hackers" Nova

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • Dr Julia Shaw's segment on implanting false memories from the NOVA PBC documentary "Memory Hackers".

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  • @MJosephMurphy
    @MJosephMurphy 7 месяцев назад +1

    I can’t thank you enough for your work, Dr. Shaw. Completely changed my views on life.

  • @mikeroe73
    @mikeroe73 8 лет назад +68

    I wonder how much the attractiveness of the interviewer (Dr. Julia Shaw) influenced the interviewees and their desire to conform to what she was suggesting. No doubt, as man at least, that would have a significant effect as it is natural to want to please attractive women (of whom, Dr. Shaw is most certainly). Regardless, a fascinating study and I hope to see more of how memories can be altered.

    • @RickJankowski92
      @RickJankowski92 8 лет назад +13

      Yeah a intelligent hot woman is like my dream, i think i would have said anything she wanted me to say .
      To be honest the only reason i even started watching this thing was because she was in the thumbnail of the suggestions lol ......

    • @cryora
      @cryora 7 лет назад +6

      mikeroe73 Haven't you learned about the game and sexual selection? Women aren't attracted to people pleasers. They are attracted to men who are self-confident, go after what they want, and don't take shit from anybody. You're doing it all wrong.

    • @aliasbrush2
      @aliasbrush2 7 лет назад +1

      +cryora
      I don't think either of the posters were trying to court her with their messages. For you to interpret it as that suggests you're the one looking to meet people online. Needless to say, *you're* doing it wrong!

    • @komentatorzadruge1950
      @komentatorzadruge1950 6 лет назад

      yes if you're thirsty, but if you're not you'd just slap her silly for trying to make a fool out of you

    • @evaneschelmuller4677
      @evaneschelmuller4677 3 года назад +1

      She would most likely not be doing the interviewing. There would be hundreds of participants and interviews/studies are usually run by RA's (research assistants) which are undergrads most likely. They will also statistically check if groups of participants differ between interviewers / RA's.

  • @squattystx
    @squattystx 8 лет назад +133

    does shaw remember that she's in love with me?

  • @RomansEtianen
    @RomansEtianen 7 лет назад +5

    I just bought your book the memory Illusion. i can't wait to read it! I really admire your work!!!

  • @lavendar786
    @lavendar786 7 лет назад +2

    Hey Julia, I would like to use this clip in my classroom, but college policy indicates it needs to be CCed. Could I send you a subtitle file for you to add to the video OR download the content and work on it on my channel? Thank you, awesome research!

  • @yaozerus
    @yaozerus 8 лет назад +6

    I feel like if the scenario was given to me, so much of that it's credibility is hanging on the fact that my parent's said it was true. Most people have a good amount of confidence in their parent. What if I just asked my parent's about the false event? Do you have to get the parent's to collaborate?

    • @bugatti314159
      @bugatti314159 8 лет назад +4

      Exactly what I was thinking. I would assume my parents were telling an accurate story and my memory was defective. After that you could implant some memories into susceptible individuals. Probably the same types of people could be easily hypnotized (I can see a study happening in here somewhere).

    • @cryora
      @cryora 7 лет назад

      Evan Zhao What are you talking about? I have very little confidence in my parents.

    • @sbklein
      @sbklein 7 лет назад +1

      Cryora -- interesting, I have little confidence in your parents as well.

  • @imho320
    @imho320 2 года назад

    An interesting topic. Since we are able to falsify events with an anchor thought to cover up a possibly real event, perhaps for self-defense I would be interested if you could reconstruct this without the anchor thought, which disappears over time. ?

  • @luckz4873
    @luckz4873 4 года назад

    Dear Julia. I need to remove a memory of someone. Please can you help in any way?

    • @icarue993
      @icarue993 3 года назад +1

      I have a hammer, where can we meet?

  • @goethe3290
    @goethe3290 8 лет назад +1

    What about the Mandela Effect? False memories? Dimension merging? However a very weird thing...!

  • @Soooeren
    @Soooeren 8 лет назад

    Hey Julia - ich hoffe es ist okay, wenn ich Dich hier dutze. Naja ich hab's ja jetzt eh schon gemacht...
    Habe gestern die Lanz Sendung gesehen und war/bin total begeistert und geflasht von Deinen Berichten. Das Buch müsste schon morgen da sein. Bin sehr gespannt darauf auch weil ich mich hobbymäßig mit Psychologie beschäftige.
    Ich werde das weiter verfolgen.

  • @JorgeGamaliel
    @JorgeGamaliel 8 лет назад +4

    Beauty & Neuroscience.I like you very much. I like a lot your work. :D

    • @zes3813
      @zes3813 2 года назад

      wrg,idts

  • @andrewjarvis4074
    @andrewjarvis4074 6 месяцев назад

    Furthermore this is why the reed technique doesn't work. you get more false positives than anything. Timing and clusters while keeping the effect of your presence to a minimum. After all we're interviewing not interrogating.

  • @drbeleza
    @drbeleza 5 лет назад

    Dr. Shaw, have you read The History of The Devil, by Paul Carus?

  • @lennixlennix
    @lennixlennix 8 лет назад +5

    4:11 ..woa.. not so much details please

  • @riffraffcharlie
    @riffraffcharlie 8 лет назад +2

    Yes but why does the brain do this what useful purpose does it serve for the brain to manufacture this - is the participant there trying to please the researcher - hence she convinces herself of thise false memomeries. This is not dealt with in your very short video - i'd be interested to follow up on this. I'll check you out online - I am currently doing research at Birkbeck on family divorce/disputes and the issue of false memory is a big one.

    • @danthelambboy
      @danthelambboy Месяц назад

      Being agreeable to those with status and high mating market value can provide security and can lead to increased survival. Our evolved traits can easily be applied to situations that don't serve us, one example is anxiety or irrational fear, we can know that it is irrational, not useful and how the fear harms us but we still can't necessarily overcome the programming that makes us react like that. The body and mind often isn't nuanced enough to not apply programming more carefully, it does the most cautious thing.
      Does the study prove the memories were false? Can it know that memories weren't just being covered up because they didn't want to say something that made them look bad?

  • @skylarpenney5259
    @skylarpenney5259 5 лет назад +10

    Is-is this even ethical?

    • @josciv8041
      @josciv8041 3 года назад +4

      In the line of this experiment I would argue it is. Even when the test subjects still believe in the memory after they were debriefed (also known as a non-believed memory), this study is of great importance. The biggest example I can think of are the interrogations done by the police. If the suspects are interrogated in a suggestive manner, they could create a false memory. According to that memory, they could recieve a punishment for something they didn't do. So in conclusion, it is ethical knowing that this could help a lot of suspects who are being interrogated in suggestive manner (and in general a lot of people who are manipulated by this technique).

  • @craigreynolds4654
    @craigreynolds4654 8 лет назад +2

    This is pretty crazy stuff but not the first time I have heard of it. Some one once told me that any memories we have prior to 5 years old are actually just implanted stories from our families because our memories didn't quite work back then. I know that is false though. I told some of my super early memories to my Mom and she couldn't believe I remembered them and said she had never mentioned those things before to me. But this study makes you wonder how many of them are actually real and how many people have been brainwashed by the justice system etc..

    • @bugatti314159
      @bugatti314159 8 лет назад +1

      Dr Shaw has also heard that (untrue) early memory theory so many times she now believes it herself and wrote about it. I also have many extremely accurate childhood memories. Unfortunately I can't remember what happened a week ago.

  • @plants_people_profit
    @plants_people_profit 7 лет назад

    ordered the book via Toronto Library, looking forward to reading it

  • @kahosin890
    @kahosin890 8 лет назад +4

    been doing the same thing to my mother whenever i fuxk up

  • @Galdring
    @Galdring 7 лет назад

    Isn't this old, old news?

  • @CannedFishFiles
    @CannedFishFiles 8 лет назад +1

    Hey remember that 'Making a Murderer' show?

  • @StPetePurgeSurvivor
    @StPetePurgeSurvivor 6 лет назад

    Some have scars to back up a memory. Like a road map.

  • @LiViro1
    @LiViro1 7 лет назад +4

    I remember dating her - wild! Somehow I even like the fact that she's part German.

  • @ismalali
    @ismalali 6 лет назад +5

    How come as a professional, she's allowed to manipulate people's minds like this? The patient doesn't seem to be aware that this is happening to her. Is it ok because it's in the name of science? The professionals and TV show that is doing this should be sued for millions, this could really screw with the victim's relationships for the rest of their life.

    • @user-ci2qn2uf5h
      @user-ci2qn2uf5h 3 года назад

      hey! this 'experiment' is actually unethical so i hope this helps clear things up. no idea how this was allowed in all honesty i don't think it was thought out well hence why the experimenter stopped it early. i truly don't think she thought she would be able to manipulate participants like this. it is essentially gaslighting lol

    • @icarue993
      @icarue993 3 года назад

      @@user-ci2qn2uf5h You'd be surprised what counts as ethical. I am doing some stress experiments and it's physically and mentally taxing (I'm am the guyny pig, so even if I know it's coming, it doesn't make it any easier) and yet we do those experiments on other people. The greater good is important (yes, even if you have to stress people in the process).

    • @Firefoxy-rz1nw
      @Firefoxy-rz1nw 3 года назад +1

      Not really bro. You can stop worrying about this and focus on other things.

    • @lyz0711
      @lyz0711 2 года назад +2

      There is some level of deception in this study and it is considered unethical but usually as long as they get debriefed its fine and also it contributes to research. The memory that is implanted isn't very severe and the stress induced isn't considered to be high.

    • @ismalali
      @ismalali 2 года назад

      @@lyz0711 thank you for the insight. I still don’t agree to this, but I appreciate you enlightening me on how this is even allowed to happen.

  • @soloarcher2562
    @soloarcher2562 3 года назад

    4:12 Yeah, me too. I wonder if she remembers that?

  • @17780samtube
    @17780samtube 7 лет назад +7

    She fell in love with me! Hopefully she will remember...

  • @georgevendras5450
    @georgevendras5450 4 года назад

    Sorry to say but this is not memory implantation. This is a very handy repetition of the Conformity Experiment. Psycho-sciences suffer a severe condition of faulty Definitions. Definitions given by psycho-scientists are (constantly) subjective. Long talk!!!!!
    To put it another way, call me and try to implant memories. If there' s something I cannot remember, the monotonous answer you are going to get from me is "I don' t remember this, so I cannot confirm the incidence 's occurrence!". Memory implantation presumes charge in dendrites. And I assume that you know what that means.... from the Electrical Engineering perspective, since memory is 'associative' -> dispersed across brain and since the electrical activity of action potential is really minuscule. No?
    Even Lawyers may confuse the opponent or some testifying witness and force him/her to some or complete embarrassment and make him/her admit events that never happened or disperse him/her ambiguity or uncertainty for an event that indeed occurred. Are then Lawyers memory 'implanters' or 'instabilizers'???? Are we given the right to name Lawyers as Psychologists as well????
    Even though they are forced to produce some faulty memory, indeed there may be gathered some charge capacitance in some dendrites (faulty memory formation). But soon the cue editor will start work in backwards and perhaps, I repeat, perhaps, at some moment later, the person may, I repeat, may realize that this event never existed. Unless he/she is an idiot and bites it unchewed (I mean that due to cretinism, the cue editor will not react and start even a minimum process at all)! Oh, does intelligence have something to do with this kind of "implantation" method?
    TIP: If you are a psycho-scientist and you want to conduct an experiment, before doing so, study Physics or Electrical Engineering. Because Brain is not a kind of japery. It is an Electrical/Chemical apparatus. So, it has to be proven that memory implantation indeed occurred and the only way to do so is to present us newly charged dendrites which will last for long time (let us say, 10 years) and which not be associated with the experiment itself (I mean, after the memory implantation is conducted, there should also be no recall of the experimental scene, doctors/implanters etc during the recall of the implanted memory), we guess!! Psycho-scientists have to get rid of this kind of mentality: "Ohhh!!!! Today there was an explosion in the mine. One worker was injured in the X brain area and stopped being epileptic. Great!!!! Get that hammer and let's go down to the basement to give one shot to our patient Tim in X brain area! Let us see if he is gonna be alright" -> direct reference to the inhuman methods of lobotomy...... and its origin as a 'therapeutic' treatment. Of course, I do not say that today psycho-scientists adopt such methods. What I am trying to say is that event today these 'external' approaches of the brain continue by a significant number of scientists. This holistic approach mentality seems that has not changed, continuing to drive things to adjective conclusions that may easily be debunked with simple argumentation!!!

  • @widia1808
    @widia1808 4 года назад +10

    It's not fair that she can be so smart and so beautiful at the same time, now I feel like a stupid potato even more :(

  • @clarkkent3730
    @clarkkent3730 Год назад +2

    Julia Shaw is absolutely stunningly gorgeous!
    She is so smoking hot I can hardly stand it!

  • @ajs41
    @ajs41 7 лет назад

    Derren Brown made someone admit to a murder they hadn't committed in one of his recent shows.

  • @dissdad8744
    @dissdad8744 5 лет назад

    How do we even know it's not staged for the NOVA PBS show? After all they just had one participant on whom the supposed trick worked!

    • @savaiya3440
      @savaiya3440 4 года назад

      they had 70 who it worked on

    • @dissdad8744
      @dissdad8744 4 года назад

      @@savaiya3440 That's their claim, but there is no supportive evidence!

    • @savaiya3440
      @savaiya3440 4 года назад

      Diss & Dad That’s true

    • @Firefoxy-rz1nw
      @Firefoxy-rz1nw 3 года назад

      @@dissdad8744 How do you know they have no evidence?

  • @pujarze
    @pujarze 5 лет назад

    Wow, Dr. Julia Shaw is absolutely stunning! Did she account for that variable in her research? Especially with the male participants...

    • @savaiya3440
      @savaiya3440 4 года назад +2

      this is all that are in the comments, talking about her appearance. We all know this never happens with a male Therapist

  • @tomiwaaina5499
    @tomiwaaina5499 7 лет назад +6

    I honestly think that her findings might be corrupted because of her beauty. People might just say they did those things just to please her cause shes pretty

    • @HawkGTboy
      @HawkGTboy 6 лет назад +5

      A good control would then be to have an ugly old dude repeat her procedure.

    • @Firefoxy-rz1nw
      @Firefoxy-rz1nw 3 года назад

      Yes, her physical beauty is a contributing factor, as is her personable-ness. However, I wouldn't say that it means the findings are corrupted. It still tells us something about compliance.

    • @shirendjorgee9320
      @shirendjorgee9320 2 года назад

      Not everyone was a straight guy or a lesbian I would assume, though it could be a factor. That's why these things are replicated.

  • @dontworryaboutit273
    @dontworryaboutit273 8 лет назад +3

    Ha, I was a part of this study!

  • @percival5207
    @percival5207 3 года назад

    Woah. Didn't know this can happen.

  • @esahm373
    @esahm373 3 года назад

    Dr Julia Shaw - when looks are your main qualification.

  • @rizkibalki
    @rizkibalki 7 лет назад +6

    Boy you are a very beautiful scientist, I mean your research of course!

  • @moonglow6639
    @moonglow6639 6 лет назад

    What is this? Why do people simply let her fool them? She should be in jail for this. I fear she will be soon.

  • @shreddedreams
    @shreddedreams 7 лет назад +2

    i'm convinced that it's simply due to the impressionability and low IQ of people rather than an absolute ability to deceive the brain into thinking something happened which never.

    • @Firefoxy-rz1nw
      @Firefoxy-rz1nw 3 года назад

      How did you convince yourself of this?

  • @turnerbrandon3885
    @turnerbrandon3885 7 лет назад +1

    This is like Stanley Milgram and the agentic state. Julia Shaw doesn't seem to be proving anything new. Only that she is a weird bully messing with peoples minds. Also I disagree that one is unable to recall a valid memory from before 2 years of age. These poor souls are just reacting to her illusion of authority over then.

  • @edolferdler3784
    @edolferdler3784 8 лет назад

    WOW False memories, I always thought I could thrust my self now I know that every single piece of my memories are infected by my self family environment tv radio books and youtube channel's

  • @hannahjor
    @hannahjor 7 лет назад +1

    She's a puppet master (in reference to Ghost in the shell) :)

  • @n0yn0y
    @n0yn0y 6 лет назад +7

    way way out of my league

  • @farntf1647
    @farntf1647 4 года назад +1

    Plot twist. That woman is actually a killer

  • @peterjones9240
    @peterjones9240 6 лет назад +3

    This doesn't seem to be a "false memory" but your typical confidence scam. The victim is asked to try to use the limits of your imagination to try to piece together that something occurred which you don't remember. So it's not recreating a memory, just using your imagination and later being convinced to accept it as a memory. Not comparable to what is represented.

  • @UmbrellaforensicIPTVsetopbox
    @UmbrellaforensicIPTVsetopbox Год назад

    It's happening in madhya Pradesh everywhere they have created bogus circumstances to simulate bogus person

  • @BenGurskyMusic
    @BenGurskyMusic 4 года назад +2

    go Julia, hella smart

  • @galihanjasmoro1367
    @galihanjasmoro1367 5 лет назад

    Crack an egg channel membawaku kesini

  • @dademurphy1023
    @dademurphy1023 8 лет назад +1

    This is what they did to Brendan Dassey

  • @geda489
    @geda489 6 лет назад

    Hallo Frau Shaw, ich weiss ihre Forschung von Herr Böhmermanns Fernseherprogramm. Sehr interassant. Viele Erfolg.

  • @stiffneck53
    @stiffneck53 4 года назад

    What a dirty trick no matter who does it.

  • @XpistosRules
    @XpistosRules 8 лет назад +5

    Explanation of the Mandela Effect.

  • @UmbrellaforensicIPTVsetopbox
    @UmbrellaforensicIPTVsetopbox Год назад

    This is is my thesis project at thesis I took sample from fake person who think they are medical students

    • @UmbrellaforensicIPTVsetopbox
      @UmbrellaforensicIPTVsetopbox Год назад

      And were caught henceforth they took admission based on impersonations by killing original ones in road traffic accidents

  • @szampon
    @szampon 5 лет назад +1

    Mandela effect is real.

  • @vivekvermaiit
    @vivekvermaiit 5 лет назад

    I've lived in Kelowna :D

  • @FedJimSmith
    @FedJimSmith 5 лет назад +1

    Can I use this to fool my buddies to give me money

  • @Penaming
    @Penaming 6 лет назад

    This is what happens when people do too much NLP.

  • @neallcalvert
    @neallcalvert 7 лет назад +3

    But you can see, if you look carefully, that the interviewee, perhaps 20 years old, is acting like a child, squeezing the hands together, has the need to continually smile when there is nothing to smile about, is turning the head away, has a childish-sounding voice, etc. This is a person with little inner strength. Why no strength? Because she is still emotionally a child. The interviewee needs to recover her ACTUAL painful memories and feelings of childhood, and release them, perhaps through actual effective psychotherapy and/or inner development work of some kind, and thus become more emotionally mature, more in present time, less subject to authoritarian influence and easily swayed by someone they have an obvious investment in trying to please. . . . And what is the Dr. Shaw's investment in creating this material? Could she be in denial of her own unresolved childhood issues? She seems emotionally immature as well, appears childlike and naive, with 'Barbie' hair and a childish voice . . . out of which she is creating a whole philosophy of memory? Heaven help us. . . . Someone should have the courage to counter this material. The doctor is intellectual, but actual honest emotional expression seems to evade her, and her interviewees as well. That honest emotional expression is the foundation of truth-telling; everything else, including what happens here, seems 'made up': if people don't know what they feel, they can make up any old story -- and they often do. . . . But humans usually don't begin that search for honesty unless something in their life breaks down, and so there are few who take up the journey into Realness based on emotional truth and honesty.

    • @sidehustletips
      @sidehustletips 7 лет назад +1

      Thank you, those are great points. I am always leary of women with childish sounding voices. A lot of people say it is connected to women sexually abused as kids. So sad.

    • @dougmesner3125
      @dougmesner3125 6 лет назад +2

      It's amazing how uncomprehending and thick-skulled your reply to this video is. You're so invested in the idea of childhood trauma being the one true source of all psychological difficulty that even when you see a video that demonstrates the fallacy of digging for repressed memories, you read repression into the false memory creation produced by the client. I'm sure if a hopelessly incompetent idiot like yourself were handling this client, she'd walk out with all types of new "memories" of child abuse that never occurred. And what is Neall Calvert's investment in creating this material? Maybe you're just titillated by child abuse stories, as I find so many proponents of debunked recovered memory therapies are. How disgustingly ignorant can you be? Did it not occur to you that the subject is in a foreign environment being asked questions for which she is unsure of the answer? Might that not be enough to diminish the outward appearance of her "inner strength"? Might she not be having a fairly normal response? You have no idea what any bit of this person's childhood was like, yet you leap straight to the conclusion that she has painful childhood memories that she needs to recover. I'm thinking that you're a psychological case study of your own -- an extreme case of an absolute failure at absorbing disconfirming evidence, an amazing inability to learn when the lesson isn't the one you prefer. It's truly the definition of stupidity.

    • @selah71
      @selah71 5 лет назад

      @@dougmesner3125
      I think most people have had one or more painful childhood memories of different degrees.
      But, I'm not a psychiatrist so I can't say for sure.

  • @jean-charlesdellafaille3179
    @jean-charlesdellafaille3179 5 лет назад

    Inception.

  • @OJ-sr6bg
    @OJ-sr6bg 8 лет назад +1

    She is making false memory of her beauty by making people to have a crush on her

  • @statue76
    @statue76 7 лет назад

    So police officers have the training and mental ability to plant false memories into suspects? I tend to not take 30 something shrinks to seriously, especially when they are trying to make a name for themselves in a "feelings over facts" world.

  • @trym88
    @trym88 8 лет назад +2

    Maybe you can implement crimes into minds of idiots but nothing more.

  • @johnnyhall2550
    @johnnyhall2550 7 месяцев назад

    Hi doc.you r very stunning woman !!!🌹🌷

  • @Cristian-fh7jo
    @Cristian-fh7jo 3 года назад +1

    I thought I was the only one that noticed how beautiful this girl is. She could be a model

    • @CarinaCares
      @CarinaCares 3 года назад

      Being a scientist is much cooler and more interesting than being a model ^^

  • @capistor1
    @capistor1 6 лет назад

    It must be true cause its on internet XD

  • @percival5207
    @percival5207 3 года назад

    Hogwarts has a position open for Prof Shaw, in the dark arts department alongside with prof Snape. :)

  • @fiddlestickszz
    @fiddlestickszz 7 лет назад

    1/23/17

  • @moonglow6639
    @moonglow6639 6 лет назад +3

    Also, her thesis about false memories is wrong. Interpretation and evaluation of memories do indeed change during a lifetime, but not the memory (the information) itself. Sorry, but please stop fooling us Ms. Shaw..

    • @moonglow6639
      @moonglow6639 6 лет назад +1

      And you simply CANT "implant" false memories into someone and actually make them believe they are real... FOR REAL. Thats ridiculous.

    • @moonglow6639
      @moonglow6639 6 лет назад

      I guess she will delete my comments lol.

    • @moonglow6639
      @moonglow6639 6 лет назад

      Also ich würde das lassen, Julia. Gerichtsmedizin ist eine sensible Sache. Du machst dich hier strafbar, dessen solltest du dir bewusst sein. Nichts für ungut, ok?

    • @omarali-tv7zi
      @omarali-tv7zi Год назад

      This is something that has become proven scientifically, whether Julia Shaw did it or anyone else..there has been repeated documented experiments all over the world

  • @fiddlestickszz
    @fiddlestickszz 7 лет назад +1

    We live in a multiverse.. a simulated virtual reality....one body can have multiple souls..humans are reincarnated from other dimensions and planets

    • @luciousdefanto
      @luciousdefanto 6 лет назад

      I have a ability
      To feel another Timeline / Universe that near with our Universe
      Like plan A and Plan B after we had choose plan A/Plan B and I feel it from a years ago until now and its so real another Universe

  • @WhyJesus
    @WhyJesus 5 лет назад

    Ever met Christine Blaisey Ford Dr. Shaw? More importantly, do you know the Savior?

  • @anfernycrab8029
    @anfernycrab8029 Год назад

    Such a baddie ong

  • @christopherchris8375
    @christopherchris8375 Год назад

    🎥🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟

  • @coolhand1966
    @coolhand1966 4 года назад

    I remember she's a 7 at best.

  • @PP-ry3ke
    @PP-ry3ke 4 года назад

    Julia Shaw ist voll süß! 😍

  • @alexadellastella5247
    @alexadellastella5247 4 года назад

    this is stupid! it's manipulative cos she has trust .... this is very dangerous cos true victims naturally doubt themselves without needing anybody to put any memory in them, they delete it to protect themselves. By doing this you cltivate the abuse of victims. What's the point of your work? something is wrong with this manipulative too confident woman.....! what's the point of your work?how does it serve humanity? you'd better have chosen to help victims rememeber the truth instead of doing this nonsense

  • @cristiandelrosario7420
    @cristiandelrosario7420 3 года назад

    could her being so attractive have anything to do with it at all ?

    • @enzop2835
      @enzop2835 Месяц назад

      Well of course. Humans are attracted to beauty. It's one of our fallacies.