Don't be THIS guy! | Step 331
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- After our friend Maya leave, Soller goes through some pretty stressful and chaotic couple of days.. Don't be this guy who ruins an entire anchorage.
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Not gonna lie: Seeing Kika yelling at Captain Calamity in French was pretty special.
I was saying "Go get'm Kika" watching her yell at that jerk.
I tried Google Translate but it couldn't keep up and said it was for the better! ;)
@Buckwheat LOL. Don’t be so silly.
@Buckwheat derp
@Buckwheat maybe he is not so sensitive
Having Dan (being so famous) jump onto your boat to rescue you is like having Harrison Ford rescuing hikers because of altitude sickness in his personal helicopter. "I'm here to help you mam." "Wait, aren't you Dan of Sailing Uma? Kika has to be around too."
You 2 are such a blessing!
And in an Oyster too! What a compliment :)
“We’d rather film other people’s drama than be a part of it” 😂 Peak Canadian
New life goal: never conduct myself in such a way that the people I encounter have a literal party to celebrate when I leave. Yikes!
That's my sock. I've been looking for it everywhere.
It's strange that there seemed to be no harbour master taking any kind of action to avoid what could have become a very serious situation. I remember my own sailing career and sometimes having to deal with harbour masters who I thought were just annoying busybodies! Looking at what you had to deal with here, I think you could have done with one of those...
It is not a harbour though, just a random speck of shallow sea water. It is comparable to there being no campsite managers on every random patch of nature where people decide to set up tent. It is a matter of freedom vs security; if you want security you go to a regulated anchorage or a marina, while if you want freedom you anchor where you want, but then you must also fend for yourself.
@@AlotOfSunInHeaven Usually the unmanaged areas like that fall under the perview of local law enforcement or national navy. Depending on the country. Unfortunately that also means long response times, if any at all, without something bad having already happened.
Sometimes a Karen comes in handy to out annoy the other guy.
Of course the survivors party is at a Dutch boat. 💪🏼
Die Nederlanders kom je ook overall tegen. Jammer dat je ze niet meer ziet in Qatar.
Alles klopt!!
On a beautiful Dutch build boat too!
zo grappig :-)
Jah, super om zo'n debriefing-feestje te geven!
Die Amel 54 deed z'n naam (ZEN) geen eer aan.Wat een idioot.
Dan & Kika; Superbly handled!
It's encouraging that a situation like that occurs infrequently enough to be worth documenting.
You might not have been during high season in the eastern Med or up the Adriatic I reckon - daily twice is an understatement.
I stopped sailing there in high season inbetween charter crews and barefoot-noobs for exactly that reason - a lot of people chartering in the beautiful Dodekanes or Turkish coast aren't capable to use an anchor (or a sailboat for that matter) properly. It was even worse in the Kornat. It's a nightmare.
And the bigger the boats become, the worse becomes the seamanship and the more barefaced and impertinent the boaters are. Unbearable and ruining the experience.
@@manfredschmalbach9023 It is the downside of the chartering business and also, why former charter boats, especially if they had not been sailed by a captain always onboard, are often extremely cheap: They have been sailed by amateurs, who do of course not, unlike Kika and Dan for instance, treat the boat like their home, because it is not. Often a mandatory insurance even cover all, that they may break, so it is a free voucher to act like a jerk for some people quite clearly.
Don't play chess with a pigeon… just leave, we like to say over here. Well done! Nice to see such situations on film, too!
That's a nice and very fitting expression! Got me laughing.
I love how that saying only implies the part that's often said out loud :D
I agree - public shaming is not the solution. If Uma moved to another location (even in the same anchorage) they wouldn't have been involved in the drama - but then again they depend on clicks for income - so it is what it is.
@@MrMarkandMsCindy Well, they did exactly that. I think its nice to see how such situations could be solved, not only the bright side of liveaboard sailing.
@@gyurmaster I totally agree liveaboard sailing is not all cocktails at sunset and that aspect of the lifestyle should also be told. But, a person who publicly shames is as despicable as the person they highlight.
I'm proud of you for being mature enough to embrace the philosophy, "you only have the right away if they give it to you."
There is no right, only left. Those left to tell the story.
Oh my that was fun!! I don't think I've ever seen you guys get after someone before - it was MUCH deserved, and you handled it well!
My favorite part: “Hi Dan! We’ll talk later!“ 😂🤩
Shame some of those other boats didn't have spikes to put out rather than fenders. Amel would be different if his boat was holed.
It always is a good thing, to have some dutch boats arround you. Especially in Nights like that. Instead of blood, they've got ocean water in their veins and their nature is, helping each other. And her partys are legendary too.
Thanks, was wondering for years what that feeling was :-)
Hi couple! I’m a professional skipper from the Balearics.
You should avoid this kind of anchorages in the Balearics as much as possible. Stay away from the charter boats (you can easily check the number 6 on their plate or even the charter logo company printed somewhere) Eventually you’ll get used to be very close to others but always making sure there’s no real danger in case of a sudden swift. Last but not least, I’ve experimented 65 knots wind at anchor once and several +40, check the cape index and the isobaric charts, those squalls are so unexpected and unpredictable.
Safe travels guys, happy to watching you around here
As a fellow Canadians and Amel owners - (39ft Sharki) in the Med (Greece), we were mortified to see what you had to deal with and hats off to you both for keeping your calm through such atrocious behaviour. We are members of the Amel Owners group and everyone we’ve met prides themselves in being helpful and courteous to others, we’re sorry you came across such a dick!
Thanks Dan and Kika for sharing your story, we definitely took away a few tips 👍🏻
SV Delos. They sure also do show themselves very contrary to the behavior of that French couple!
I wonder whether it is the boat type or more the flag?
@@wjhann4836 @$$holes can be found among every nation and driving every boat/car/...
I highly commend you on your ability to assess a situation, and respond decisively and calmly, and to know when to remove yourself from danger
Once again great video. I love the little sailing things that you do right, like starting the dingy motor before casting off, and the big things you do right, like moving Uma out of harms way! Every week you demonstrate what good sailers should do. As always your filming and editing is awesome! Glad you avoided "That guy"!
I was smiling when your outboard started with one easy pull and you said “look at that!” Because I met you in Georgetown Bahamas and you had just bought a new Yamaha outboard (that one?) and you gifted me with your old Mercury outboard. It was giving you a lot of grief and you just wanted to get rid of it. Since I knew a lot about those Mercury motors, I knew I could get in running quickly and it would serve me well as a spare for guests. I rebuilt the carb several times, checked everything else I knew but that motor was cursed and never ran properly. I gifted it to another boater and he left contentedly smiling. A couple of days later I passed him struggling along with the cowling off and fiddling with the motor. Always did wonder if he got it working but I doubt it.
HA!! No way! Small world. Yah that motor was definitely cursed. Yes, still the same Yamaha we bought in the Bahamas. Starts on one pull every time. Love that thing.
...I was going to write something along the lines of "so there are outboards that start on one pull" because of my childhood experiences with my dad's Evinrude from the sixties (that was already 30 years old at that point) and then later his Mercury from early eighties (that was already over 10 years old at that point - it does still run though, and usually starts on the third pull after receiving lots of TLC) but then I remembered that I did get a new four-stroke Honda for my first 20' sailing boat back in 2007, and it did actually always start on the first pull. So those things do exist :D
Unbelievable behaviour from that Amel owner, definitely a good decision to move and get out of there. Not surprising that it was him that dragged and messed up everyone's boats, unbelievably selfish behaviour.
Typical french behavior I've woken up to a family trying to raft up in the Caribbean before was a fun night full of fun words i was crew on a boat owned by an Australian couple first time I learned the story of the rainbow warrior
@@christianestories …it appears nobody likes the French…. other than the French! 😀👍🏻🤣
Jus happy no one was injured ❤
JC from top gear loves the French people.
Completely believable once you hear them speaking french
Professor Dan calls it right again. It is hard on your pride to move on when you are in the right, but boat safety comes first.
Crash party the next morning beats the heck out of a burial party the night before, even at sea. Thanks for sharing you two.
This is typical French! We saw this same act several times during our world circumnavigation and all were French flagged vessels.
I just read Lin and Larry Pardey's account of an anchorage disaster at Cabo San Lucas. I'm glad there was only minor damage here. Still really stressful. You did the wise thing getting out of that mess.
My favorite line was about "the whole anchorage there's kind of this weird tension..." I really got a since of the community that occurs when a bunch of boats anchor together. I could feel the waves of concern over this little temporary floating village. If you want to make videos to show people what it is like to be a cruiser, you really succeeded here.
I am so glad I do not have to re anchor my house when the wind blows..
You do not live in Florida.
But if it ever blows off its mooring... haha
We survived Soller 2022!
I think everyone who's spent time in Soller has horror stories. Glad you guys escaped with little damage.
You using the scuba gear of the Amel to find your anchor which he draghed was amazing... Rgds Berend from SV Lyrics
Wow! What excitement, but at least there was a happy ending amongst new found friends.
We have an Amel in the Med and feel so sorry you had such a bad experience with a fellow Amelian. We take great pride in how warm & friendly Amelians are, both on the water and in the forum and FB group. Lets hope this experience might have taught them something about anchorage etiquette! Thanks for all your beautiful, entertaining and educational videos .
Sorry you had to deal with that. Glad to see you enjoying some good neighbours! :)
Well done with the situation.
Better to be off at daylight than to get into trouble at night!
Soller is a mousetrap, specially with strong northerly winds. I have had one of my worst anchoring experiences in this anchorage. Exactly the same type of situation you faced thou this time it was a German crew. In the summer it gets crowed with too many boats carrying unexperienced crews. Charter boats, summer sailors, weekend sailors, day sailors, drunk sailors... The behaviour of Amel´s crew is fairly frequent in the Balearics in the high season. Many of these crews come new to sailing as guests or sail only from summer to summer. They get mentally blocked due to fear each time something extraordinary comes in the way (and winds above 15 knots enter into this category for these guys!). I always try to anchor at the entrance of the calas in deeper water just in case. During summer months blows may arrive with a very little or no warning in the Balearics. Good that you guys decided to move. Wise decission.
I was going to ask if all owners of boats were reasonable and got along even in stressful situations. That has been answered for me. I do enjoy your videos.
That was a fun episode. Scraping yard arms while yelling in French. Lots of drama. And a storm that did materialize in the dead of night followed by a crash party next morning for the ‘survivors’.
You guys made us Re-leave our worse night at anchor which was also in Soller this past summer ! The difference that in our case we could not go to the mooring ball and that Amel for us it was a 46 Nautitech catamaran ! Similar behavior from captain unfortunately! Not fun at all! It almost feels like that Soller is made for this type of drama and attacks that “don’t be this guy” ! Glad everyone was ok ! You guys did awesome. Best Ed and Patricia
What are the two words a captain fears most? "Recreational Boater" What a Richard Head. Love you and have a great Holiday!
I have to say that Richard Head is one of the best insults I've ever heard. Thank you :D
I was sailing some days on a Lagoon cat some years ago. We picked up a buoy in Chaguaramas Trinidad. The next day, a french boat circled around a bit, asked us if we were leaving, which we were not, and anchored super close to our sb side. The owner of the Lagoon calmly and politely told them that it was too close and that they would certainly bump into us, so he had to move.
They aggressively denied that it was their problem, and if we didn’t like the spot, we could move. That was definitely their intention; to take over our mooring ball, (which was paid for in the marina.) The owner didn’t waste any time quarrelling, he just said that if you’re certain that it’s safe to anchor there, that’s your responsibility.
Then he got out two battery driven angle grinders. One attached near the bow and one near the stern. They were sticking out about 30cm, 1 foot. A batten was rigged outside of it so that if it was pushed, it would start the angle grinder. This was a pre made system. He tested both, making loads of noise, showing how they cut fibre glass as if it was butter.
Then we just chilled. I was laughing, though. Quite soon, our unwanted neighbour said it was dangerous and he would complain to the harbour. Our owner, stil calm and polite, just said that if our neighbour was right about anchoring at a safe distance, why would he now say it’s not safe. Then loudly test the angle grinder mechanism again. An hour later, they were gone. 😂
I don’t have this system on my boat, but I’d like to.
😱😱😱
That's brilliant!
🤣🤣🤣 Wow. Apparently, the owner ran into this problem in the past.
Having had similar experiences, I thought of setting up an array of meter long spikes. But angle grinder... man that's good!
@@tyvandm I've seriously considered purchasing a steel boat for just these occasions. I'll bet people in steel boats don't have jackasses anchor right next to them, and even if they did, the people on the steel boat would just shrug their shoulders and go down below for a worry free nap.
That was so much fun to be part of! We’re so happy you got through the night unscathed. Can’t wait for the next episode! 🫠😎🥱
You weren't provoked by the situation, that's the mental difference between north and south, the difference between professional and amateur. well done.
So nice to see people celebrating conflict avoidance, harm avoidance, and holding of tongues rather than stubbornness or even violence. Well done all around. Except the Amel of course, hope he finds his way.
We have a saying in the sailing world in England and I think the Germans have a similar one. It goes "God preserve me from strong winds and anchoring Frenchmen.". I think you understand why.
Unfortunately there’s still people who think they’re holier than thou due to their possessions and an Amel is one of those possessions, they’re highly regarded as one of the best monohull’s for blue water cruising around, add that to the stereotypical French man (being stereotyped happens for a reason just nowadays fortunately it’s rare to find one specially in a community like this where we need to get on if only to help out in dire circumstances) You guys hit the jackpot and being able to verbally take him down a step or two... and in French would’ve been a massive blow to his narcissistic ego: having had to have dealt with this kind from many different places I always love to see them cop it... kudos to Kika, he definitely wouldn’t have expected that and karma will certainly catch up with him, it’s not like he’ll be difficult to forget.
You have more calm than I do Dan. No way im holding my temper like you did. Kika is a badass though, lol, telling Capt Crash he needs to leave.
I've been in that Port Soller a couple of times and found out how bad it is with weather from the North, on the second visit. Awful nights sleep - it's like the Southern side of Soller is a scoop / amplifier of anything crappy. Will rethink future visits carefully.
Sailing is always full of surprises some good some bad in the community. God to see you guys helping each other and celebrating the crash party.
0:20 Man a Puffin yacht would be a dream boat. Not that large that must be a 50 footer atleast but a 37ft Puffin would do perfectly fine for me. There is something so beautiful about those dutch boats. Aluminum hull and absolutely go anywhere in any weather and maintain comfort kinda vibe. Love them.
Great depiction of anchorage reality...
Well deserved drinks during the survivors party! Glad you guys were able to get some peace of mind after all that mess. Cheers to continued safe travels.
I sail a 31 ft. land barge. (RV) And I can tell you that we have to deal with an occasional arse hole also. Usually, what we call 'weekend warriors'. City folk who go out to the camp areas on the weekends. Blasting music till 3AM, running generators all night, dogs let loose crapping in other peoples campsites, and leaving copious amounts of trash behind when they finally do leave.
Call that close anchoring? Take a mooring ball in Pittwater and you can share a plate with the folks on the next boat when the tide turns. Twice a day you get bumped.
No folding of the laundry, eh?? Haha, wrinkles everywhere!
I thought the same thing! 😂
Most of our cloths are wool, so they don't wrinkle. We also live on a boat, so who cares.
@@SailingUma haha, I figured 😀
Here I was thinking it was going to be a nice peaceful episode about doing laundry somewhere in southern Spain, but that actually got rather exciting.
I did my laundry in a bucket with a toilet plunger for 5 years. works great.
My first offshore boat had a washer/dryer, I'll never know.
Bet that was a lot less costly than 10 euro/load!
There's always a natural tension once you've anchored and others come in and drop their hooks closer and closer to you because your ideal position is being compromised every time. I prefer to anchor further than necessary from shore knowing that most sailors prefer to be as close as possible so people can see their boats. Most important thing is to have sufficient chain and a bigger than necessary anchor so you have the flexibility to get away from the other boats.
I guess from the timing of your stay in Mallorca, that you were there when a typhoon hit Corsica and Sardinia at around mid-August, with 60/80kn of speed and loads of boats thrown on rocks and drowned. The Med is a nice sail, but never to be underestimated, especially these last 10 years in the summer; I am a sailor in the Northern Adriatic since 43 years (my whole life), and the storms have become more and more unpredictable, quick and dangerous every year, versus until maybe 15 years ago, when you could sail with weather precise and predictable like a clock. Good job in keeping calm with the Frech guys!
Yup. It was that storm. It hit Mallorca 12 hrs before it hit Corsica.
Time to break out the paint ball guns . . . ; - )
Saying they (problematic boat) were being stubborn was a very diplomatic way of putting it. However, this is a teachable moment for would-be sailors that not everyone in the sailing community is a decent human being.
I'd go with "entitled a-h0les" personally
Some folks are so ignorant they loose their decency when being confronted with their ignorance.
@@peterbodifee Some people need to be taught a lesson on how not to be rude and crass to others the hard way....for them.
I just noticed how crystal clear your video is. You folks have developed your cinema graphic skills to a super high level. Thanks for making your story into such an interesting and beautiful experience.
Oh the irony of that Amel's name! Not many others feeling zen-like when that boat is around. Such stubborn and disruptive behavior. Kudos to team Uma for doing their part to help others out.
Hi Dana and Kika. I've been watching for a couple of years now. I had to play catch-up at 1st, watching multiple episode a day at one point! I just wanted to let you know that I LOVE the content you guys create and that I'm really looking forward to continue following your adventures in 2023. Thanks for letting us all live out our sailing fantasies through you!!! If you ever decide to sail the Great Lakes, I'd love you buy you both a beverage if you ever make it to the beautiful west shore of Michigan!!!
One of the things I appreciate about you putting up this kind of video is it gives me some sense of what can happen in anchorage. I think back to some of your videos when you were in icy cold areas...all alone. No drama. You guys are the best, carry on!
I'm glad you took the right decision to move. Good seamanship! I just can't believe that people can be so stupid, rude and stubborn. Most of the time you meet nice and friendly people when cruising the oceans. Unfortunately there are some bad guys out there too. I' m impressed how you two kept calm and managed to handle the situation.
An exciting episode!
Dragging anchor is akin to running aground (happens to everyone sometime-but with more skills-hopefully less often)
It was refreshing to see that in a stressful situation-Kia: unlike her peers in several of these channels-took matters into her hands and addressed the folks responsible for much of the stress vs resorting to tears 😢in relaying the story
Thank you!
What a nightmare! With your videos, we always just see all the fun and cool stuff, thanks for showing us about how dangerous and damaging some situations can be.
Kika, So sorry to see what is happening in your country. Thoughts and prayers
Thats the smallest load of laundry for two people ever! LOL
Nice narrative arc to this one. You guys put together a nice three act mini doc. Cheers!
The most dangerous anchorage is not the one with the white bear, but the one with the crowd of yachts.
I don't know. I am pretty sure, that I could both beat up and outrun that fat French bloke. The 700 kg polar bear, not so much!
Horses sweat, men perspire, WOMEN GLOW!
We were in Jost Van Dyke in the BVI and there was a charter boat who kept bumping into other boats at anchor. Then he anchored next to us. I asked him politely to move and was told nothing was happing. I said this is our home, and they needed to move. He told me he was there first. I got statements from our friends who were around. Took pictures of our log book showing when we arrived (2 days before) and contacted the charter company. They fixed our boat. I hope they guy is blackballed from ever chartering again.
You guys have hearts made of gold and thoughtfulness
The guy with the Amel and one assumes a large "Don't tell me I'm wrong!" ego, those guys are the type to push up against another boat and damage it them claim they're not a fault and did nothing wrong! Getting out and away from him to protect your boat was a good move for sure.
I've seen this same situation too many times over the years. There's always that one idiot who thinks he can do whatever he wants regardless of how it impacts everyone else.
Can a problem boat be reported to the authorities? Is there some coast guard in the region that can tell them to move? I don't know enough about boat law but it seems ridiculous that the whole anchorage had to put up with this for a night! I hope their insurance rates go up after all the damage they caused. The only way to get people like that to learn is via their pockets....
That would have been a better approach than publically shaming another boat owner.
Also just imagine this guy as a pilot with a plane it would be a total loss of life for sure
Crazy guy on the Amel and his crew seemed to have the same attitude. You did the right thing removing yourself from the situation. Andy UK
Just a heads up: you'll get a lot of this if you go to Greece, especially the Ionian sea it notorious for it. Especially avoid Tranquil Bay in Lefkas...
Often in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico there will be 50-60 boats anchored out waiting to make the jump to the Marquesas. Lots of room until a thunderstorm comes through then lookout. When that happens your anchor type, size and chain size all make a big difference whether you drag or not. And what is it about the French sailors anyway? Great seamen except when they anchor out, then they are absolutely nuts.
I am proud my fellow countrymen (dutch) welcome you as a guest of honour and give you the honor you deserve. Sailing can be individual but in situations like this it is about being part of a group and have the interest of the group in mind and not be that guy......
Well done, both of you!
Enjoyed the drama from a far .your ending toast birthed a smile on this dreary morning of mine.
Seemed like a great way to make friends in a community that you will at some point always need help from.
Those tight packed anchorages with the wind behaving this way - "Things go bump in the night"!
The only time I ever got in any problems was in a crowded anchorage when the Amel owner’s twin brother came crashing in and managed to foul 3 anchor lines. He came in and laid his chain across 3 different boats. Later that night the wind swung around and one of the fouled boats ended up on the beach.
When I was introduced to the" great" French yachty, E T, at the Royal Cape Yacht Club back in the day, I stuck my hand out and he growled and spat on the ground at my feet.
Arriving in Paris after a long flight and emerging out of the Metro on the left bank, I asked a gendarme for directions to my hotel. He growled, twirled his baton and replied, " by a map". The hotel was a hundred yards away.
Now we have Macron telling the Ukrainians to surrender their land. Strange people indeed...
That was intense watching. I am just imagining that incident plus weather and wind amplifies every second. That guy doesn't deserve to own a sea vessel. That level of arrogance is dangerous. It is beautiful that the survivors came together to pass the energy and get back into high spirits.
This reminds me about an old Danish TV ad for coffee: "What coffee do you offer strangers?"
Even without this Amel, the boats are to close to eachother!!
Yep Soller is a chaotic mess. Especially in charter season. But in general, sailors are nice and friendly and try their best to keep as much distance as they can and understand when they need to move. And when in trouble we all are where to help each other out. But sadly not everyone has that kindness factor in this world.
At least its not snowing with 20knot winds at -20c.
That was very interesting and suspenseful. I bet you guys enjoyed that ice cream.
Very lucky you got the mooring ball.
All aboard Uma for Excitement, Adventure and Drama!
People like that sure take a toll on boat life.
I recently moved away from my home port because there were 3 people like that.
Rather than dealing with people like them I just had my boat hauled onto the hard, giving me the chance to fix the damage.
In the summer months I will sail her and then just store her on the hard again next winter.
I figure it's cheaper than fixing all the damage caused by people whom just don't care.
Yet more evidence why the med is low on our list. So frustrating. Good call on the mooring.
I have admired that steel boat for years I have seen it for sale and have been saving up to buy it one day! So happy to see it out sailing and see the owners … you’ve probably moved on ,if not get a tour!! I have a maxi 1000 but that’s the long term retirement boat! So COOL! Can’t believe the behaviour of the boat!!
Most sailors are great people, skilled and reasonable. Or else no anchorage would ever work.
When I was in the med I just avoided those busy anchorages, if I couldn't get a slip I'd sail for a day to avoid them. I'm sure I missed out on some really nice places, but it was totally worth it.
You say that they are insane. That is possible, but my experience is that some people just have more money than experience or understanding. It can create weird situations. They also can have so huge egos that they aren't capable to act reasonably.
Have enjoyed this episode and you showed great responsibility in dealing with selfishness on the part of another boater. The arrogance of pulling into an anchorage and refusing to listen to those already there is beyond inhumanity! I was perusing the COMMENTS to discover the "typical' reaction in a case like this. Just my two pence, I was shocked to see ppl, be they boater or not reactions. Some I would consider just as rude or unthinking. I do not believe cutting s/o anchor rode is EVER a good idea. Kika did the absolute BEST thing which is communicate the culture of that anchorage. I am very disturbed that other boaters did not help her explain calmly how they felt. But this seems to be the norm "Don't Get Involved, until it happens to you" You can see the illogic of that ideology. I take this view. "By pretending they're in a different world than me I shirk my responsibility" Finally, let's remember- Every one has an A-hole, it's not exclusive to one race or nation. Wonderful to see responsible boaters and showing the world How to Do It.
Amazing control Dan! A couple of nights like that make a long short crew passage in rough seas look peaceful.
I am getting a little long in the tooth to continue long distance cruising but, I am happy that I got to cruise for many years when courtesy was the watch word and anchorages were not so crowded.