ABANDONED DIESEL TRAIN LOCOMOTIVE IN THE FOREST LEFT TO ROT!
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Here’s a video of it running and working 13 years ago! ruclips.net/video/mzKdFT39fzw/видео.html
It is heartbreaking seeing that video and then seeing your video. Hard to believe it's in that rough of shape after just 13 years :(. Excellent video though!!
@@Slimee44 Yes, it is very hard to see that it is worn like this
looks really nice back in its day Bruce
@@mehransadeghi3668 it’s a scam I DO NOT USE TELEGRAM
@@Bruce_Wilson i agree i have seen those telegram scammers elsewhere 🤔
Bruce, this locomotive as others have said, Is an Alco (American Locomotive Company) RS-3 from Schenectady, NY. It is powered by a "D-244" prime mover, rated at 1,600hp. It is NOT a 2 cycle, it is a turbocharged 4 cycle... and unfortunately, had such bad reliability issues (the prime mover) that it wound up being the final "death blow" for Alco and put them out of business. This prime mover was hastily designed and put into service without a proper time of testing it... Bad Move on Alco's part. They were "late" getting into the changeover to diesel from steam, and by the time they finally did, they came into it with this engine basically being untested.
There were so many design issue's with it, they decided to design a whole new prime mover, which was the "251".... which turned out to be a very reliable engine, and is.. in fact, still in use to this day in many different countries, especially in Latin and South America and India.
Railroads have "long memories" when it comes to equipment from manufacturers, that does not work as advertised.
By the time that Alco had the 251 ready to reliably power its locomotives, the US railroads had such bad experiences with the D-244, they had moved on to (Mostly) Electro Motive Division locomotives, in fact a few railroads even re-powered they Alco locomotives with EMD prime movers. Some of the few American Railroads that did by locomotives from Alco with the new "251" engine, are still running them to this day, in yard operations and local switch operations.
Back when Alco first got into the Diesels, GE was supplying the "trucks" and traction motors, Main generator and the electrics for the control stand and cabinets.
While Alco was designing the new 251 prime mover... GE decided to get into the locomotive business, themselves, and abruptly stopped supplying Alco (and a few other, small manufacturers) with the traction motor assemblies (Trucks) and other electrics need to build a locomotive, including the main generator which was directly driven by the crankshaft, which set Alco back even further for delivery dates... the "hand writing was on the wall"... most unfortunately for Alco, another great fallen flag from the steam era, closed its doors for good as far as locomotives were concerned, although they did manage to soldier on for a while, manufacturing their engines, as well as building locomotives in Montreal through MLW (Montreal Locomotive Works)... which never really sold very well, and had issue's with electrical fires on some units. MLW is no longer in business, and hasn't been since sometime in the 1980's.
My wife’s grandfather used to build this brand of locomotive in Schenectady, NY. They had another plant in Montreal. They were built by American Locomotive Company (Alco). These were 4 stroke. GM Electro-Motive Division, a competing manufacturer used 2 stroke engines based on upscaled Detroit Diesel.
As to jumpstart, they use a 64V low voltage system. The generator is turned into a motor for starting. The builder ID plate is usually under the cab on the sill above the truck. They are collectible, so have likely been long stolen.
ALCO use to have an engine plant in Auburn, NY. It was sold to Bombadier in the '80's and they sold the engine rights to GE. Bombadier continue to mfg camshafts, cylinder liners and some other parts for GE. Bombadier also machined some engine blocks for Detroit Diesel.
@@scottmiller2421 They sure did! This model was in the 4000-4100 series on D&H.
@@kevinhenry7273.... where on earth did you ever get the idea that Bombardier "also machined some engine blocks for Detroit Diesel"?..... and what does DD, have anything to do with any of this, anyway?? By the way... MLW (Montreal) took over the manufacturing of Alco engines and locomotives from Alco, and a number of Alco's employee's from the R&D dept. who brought the Alco designs with them. MLW closed its doors on freight locomotive building after the failure of the M640, in 1988/89. GE was getting their prime movers from DEUTZ, in Germany.
Classic trains need to be preserved and respected
Oh look at Mr. Classic Train Advocate. Wtf
To be fair this in not that old.
@@jakerazmataz852 But its an RS3.
They should take it and repair it
Dang. People just can't help themselves from stealing parts and intentionally wrecking things. If it isn't yours, look but just leave it as it sits.
As others have said. It is an ALCo RS-3, built as a Reading 520 in 8/1951, the serial number is 78933 and the prime mover number should be 12027. It was later #9 of the San Manuel Arizona Railroad Company (in the 80s and 90s). A nice find in terrible condition.
yea man you got it right. its a rs3 or an rs2 im a big alco fan myself kid
@@yourlocalrussiankid9162 More than likely Alcohol RS3. Believe all RS2’s are gone.
RS3’s were built from 1950 to 1956. Only 377 RS2’s were built. Whereas over 2000 RS3’s were build. That thing should be in a railroad museum.
Uhmmm if others have said it then why repeat it??
Just curious…
@@recessional5560 Just reinforcing the comment and besides that I didn’t see it. Just saying… know what I mean?
Start engine broo
Yesssss
It's Bruce he can't do anything
Looks like a ALCO switcher locomotive. Sadly the company been bankruptcy since 1968.. so finding parts for is impossible, going to make parts for it. That’s why railroad companies don’t use ALCO anymore. ALCO made 4-stroke diesels EMD was the only one who built 2-stroke diesel prime movers (engines) for locomotives.
I believe Fairbanks makes parts still. Some towboat companies still use alco, 90% is EMD though.
@@jnic2003 you are correct, I don’t know about Fairbanks they been gone of locomotives Industry for a while, EMD is still the king of locomotives (40’s to the 80’s) EMD is still popular now but GE is more popular and reliable. EMD was reliable back and popular than (of those times I mentioned) and nothing can’t beat those old EMD locomotives.
One of the first diesels Late 40's early 50's Alco owned by the Southern railroad
What other cars are behind and are the track accessable?
@@FullsenddieselI recorded a clip of an Alco passing up the river. Then looped it and uploaded it to my channel.
70 years old and still a kid with trains. Nice video!!!
That is a 1951 Alco RS-3 Locomotive that is powered by an Alco 244 1,600 HP V12 turbodiesel prime mover. The 244 Prime Mover engines were developed during the mid-1940s to power post-war diesel locomotives.
That locomotive, #520 came from Arizona, the commuter car came from Canada, and the Combine Car came from New York. and they're both a bit older than the locomotive. Cool old locomotive, It would be even cooler to see it run again.
Getting authority to move this locomotive under power would be oceans of paperwork.
I have a solution to that problem :P
Not around here buddy I live in this area for almost 40 yrs and for one that track it’s on is about 100 ft long maybe and two I know the owners they don’t give two shits about it
Track to the mainline is in major disarray. It's out of gauge in many places, with fallen trees laying across everywhere. I explored the area myself.
Would have to lift that sucker onto multiple trucks to get it outta there, I doubt the owner would ever pay for that
Bruce, I'd love to see more railroad related content from you. There are tons of museums across the country that would love help getting their historic diesel locomotive projects running again, literal TONS of diesel will it start content there.
Go find a damn railroad channel then, asshole.
Stuff like this should definitely be worth saving, even the train cars too, there’s people who own passenger cars from like the 1900s that restore them and keep them as private rail cars. If you watch youtube videos on them, you can see all the different kinds of private cars, a lot of them are really gorgeous and fascinating
There the Pennsylvania train museum
You are very correct
That's an ALCO RS-3 road engine, they were made back in the 1950's and it's in SOUTHERN railway colors...
I would be addicted to videos of people trying to start old abandoned trains!
I couldn’t imagine not having power tools. I couldn’t survive. All your videos are good but this one is awesome. I love seeing the old engines and abandoned things. 👍
I will introduce you to my my ex then! haha
Ive seen a few videos on this train. Apparently it was used as a scenery tour, and the loco broke down and was pushed to where it is now and they couldn't get it fixed and tgey just left it there.
Cool train Bruce it's a shame people fill like they need to destroy it .Thanks for sharing buddy 👍
It's a Alco RS2. The ALCO RS-2 is a 1,500-1,600 horsepower diesel-electric locomotive built by the American Locomotive Company (ALCO) from 1946 to 1950. ALCO introduced the model after World War II as an improvement on the ALCO RS-1. Between 1946 and 1950, 377 examples of the RS-2 were built, primarily for American and Canadian customers. They had as power a V12 four stroke diesel.
RS3. The RS2's had their battery's in a box under the sills. This loco has the battery boxes on top of the sills behind the cab (long hood is the front) which identifies it as a RS3. There were a lot of other changes but that is most obvious one. Others were mostly internal up-grades such as the hp being raised to 1600.
RS-3
This particular locomotive is an Alco rs-3, they were primarily used for small trains and switching during their prime. Amazing video by the way, You've got my subscription. 👍
When I use to work on the dredge dredging a slou off the Mississippi River the dredge had a locomotive engine running it and they are so big and amazing it’s unreal specially how loud it is I was the engine oiler very amazing engine
IT is an ALCO ( American Locomotive Company) stopped manufacturing Locomotives around 1969. They were 4 Stroke
I’d love to see more videos like this riding and finding abandoned trains etc something different
Hey @Bruce Wilson, that is an old Alco RS3 locomotive painted for Southern Railway 1947-1953 roughly
Great video Bruce interesting old locomotive. Thanks for sharing stay safe Bruce, Brian and Tom.
Seen many videos and pictures of this train glade to see it pop back up.
Living in East Tennessee, I have been to Brushy Mtn. Prisons several times. The best feature of it is if you go down to the dungeon. There are two cells down there that they put the trouble makers in. They had to survive in total darkness, their meals were served via flashlights and they ate in the dark. After 30 days in the hole, they would come out completely blind and have to be led around for several weeks until their eyes recovered. Then there was the James Earl Ray escape over the backwall which didn't work out for him either.
There's 2 trains in the middle of the woods up in northern Maine..they were used to haul timber and once trucking became easier and cheaper they just left them because it would have cost more than it was worth to remove them ...
Cool piece of history video. I love old stuff like that. More people should take the time to explore history.
unfortunately there are people destroying history because it offends them . i agree though
Hi guys, enjoyed your video on the abandoned train. What a neat find! I'll have to look up that penetentary. It is sad to see a locomotive that has been vandalized and pilfered. Why can't some people just leave stuff alone so others can enjoy it! I love exploring stuff like this though I don't do it often. The stories it cold tell... Keep up the good work.
Thanks Bruce yeah I do remember when it was running I mean some of my heritage all right buddy thanks you guys have a good week
Looks like a RS-2 switcher locomotive approx 1500hp when new in 50s. Put that monster turbo on your pulling truck🤠
Aw man, now that's kinda heartbreaking to see an old Alco just rotting away like that, I love the green with white paint scheme too, I don't get why people always tag old engines and stuff, really hope this thing gets saved eventually yet with how railroad museums and owners can be I wouldn't know
Alco rs3 southern railway with a 251 prime mover and what you were looking at was where the steam generator would be for passenger operations
A interview with the owner on it's history would be awesome 👍
thanks for sharing, sad it just rotting out there.
Dude I've seen this thing a long time ago the only thing I could say is I'm sad to see how bad it's gone down people's knocked all the windows out and graffiti to s*** out of it but I'm a train guy I wish somebody would have did something with it
That is an ALCO RS-3 Diesel Locomotive with 1,600 HP! Almost 1,500 of these diesel switcher units were produced from May 1950 all the way through August 1956. It has a 12-cylinder ALCO Model 244 engine. In this case, this is Southern 520
Great video Bruce, I Enjoy exploring !!!!
Same locomotives used by the Pacific Great Eastern railroad in British Columbia, Canada, Alco also provided the engines for the NASA crawler built by the marion power shovel co.
Sad to see that engine just got left to rot. It was in good running condition and rather rare in modern times.
It was originally used to carry minors and people who worked at the coal wash plant back and forth. Theres an old school a mile up the road that they turned into like a motel. Its a nice place to stay and the locals know a lot of history.
awesome video Bruce thanks for goin out an making a video of all that for us, that prison was neat to.
Yes you should definitely do a will it start in a train maybe in a better shape!
Great job I loved it thank you for your time
I love videos like this!! Forget ol iron history!! I enjoyed this video!!
Good luck Bruce be careful out there have a great weekend
Your bunk house is actually a sand box .. it houses sand for stopping and starting the trane on steel tracks..
You boys did a great job on the details thank you for this more trains please
I remember when it was painted down Tennessee valley railroad museum and fixed up to take where it's at now from Chattanooga
I watched both videos when it was running and where you guys are now as it looks abandoned pretty cool stuff thanks for showing it
Hi Bruce.That is a Alco RS3 not a RS2, It has a 12 cylinder prime mover called the 244 model. It made 16 hundred horsepower. that engine was originally built for the Reading Company in the very early 50's. I don't know the exact date but can be looked up. I see you posted a running video of it, and there are several more on the history of that train and operation. The Fairbanks Morse company still makes a brand new off the shelf replica engine for that locomotive. Fairbanks Morse used to make diesel locomotives in the late 40s early 50s. The only manufactures of today making locomotives is GE all( 4 stroke) and EMD (Electric Motive Division) of GM. EMD used to only make 2 strokes now just recently only makes 4 stokes like the series 60 in a truck. ALCO stands for American Locomotive Company. they originally made steam engines and went out of business in 1969. the joined the diesel game late. All ALCOS were all 4 strokes. So Bruce how do you like the weather here in Tennessee ? It has to be better for will it start videos. I understand that Pasco County is still 95 degrees at 110 percent humidity . lol By the way I just made the move here to North Knoxville area from NPR. and I used to run trains past your old shop by the coffee plant on the s line. I would blow the horn to see if you would give me the arm pump or the finger lol. I have been a fan for years I can't wait to see more videos on blue collar and getting her back to normal mint operation again. Thanks Bruce for what you do Fan for life . Bob
A little correction about EMD.
EMD is not part of General Motors anymore. Due to the bankruptcy of GM several years ago, it was forced to sell off some of its assets, EMD being one of them. It was first sold off to a group of venture capital companies, which then modified EMD's name to Electro-Motive Diesel and then couple of years later sold it to Progress Rai, a fully-owned subsidiary of...Cat.
@@kristoffermangila The EMD sale predates the GM bankruptcy.
Great video I like all your videos and this is really cool I’ve always liked locomotives keep up the great work I look forward to your next video
It's sad that so many people have gone and vandalized this train, it was in great shape until people started making videos about a mysterious, abandoned trains stashed away deep in the woods. The New River RR was an excursion line and the equipment was never left for dead, they just parked it as far away from people as they could to prevent this sort of thing from happening, but now there's probably no chance of reviving it. The combine car used to be part of another excursion train on the Walking Horse & Eastern in Shelbyville TN back in the mid-90's.
Wow that’s so cool to checkout this old beast
The Southern RS2 It needed be get out the woods being send preserving over 2 places NC transportation museum or tennessee valley railroad museum to restore operation passenger train again nice you guys find the Southern RS2. 👍👍
It's sad that people rob stuff like that. Should be found and put in prison
Could just be the railroad company stripped off a bunch of parts for other locomotives 🤷♂️
@@robertgreuniesen4051 true. Most Railroad companies does that.
Can't put anyone in prison without sufficient evidence to prove their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in court anyway, and without putting cameras around the site, you'd have nothing
@@zBrainlezz Wow thanks for the lesson in law and order. I have to re-read the whole crimes code now! Dumbass.
it's an American locomotive company (alco) rs-3 built in 1951 for the Reading railroad in Reading Pennsylvania in the 1980's it was purchased by the San Manuel Arizona Railroad Company and then the Tennesse railroad museum got it in the early 2000s
Excelente video, ese tren , debe tener cada historia, lamentablemente, esta abandonado, y nadie lo aprovecha para reciclaje o hacerlo funcionar. Gracias x mostrar dicho tren y su funcionamiento. Desde Argentina, lo sigo, fuerza y adelante
The generator is the starter you send power to the generator and it turns it into a motor to start the engine
sucks it was so destroyed, very cool train, ALCO RS-3 from what I can tell, and the data plate is located just above the front truck on the sill underside, but likely stolen. I love trains, I collect model trains and love setting up and running them. really want a UP BIG BOY model but not paying almost $500 for it. very cool find in the forest that was left to rot, sad to see it in such horrible shape.
Parabéns muito bom seu trabalho ⚒
It's a alco 244 model 12 cylinder 4 stroke. EMD at the time was using 16 cylinder 2 stroke to produce the same hp.
Located about an hour northwest of Knoxville and parked in a railroad siding is a weathered green 1951 Alco RS-3 locomotive. Coupled to it is an even older combine car (a train car that combines freight and passengers) and a commuter car. Under the plant growth and faded paint you can just barely make out the name of a railroad: New River
This is the content I’m here for.
welp this is right up my alley and what I love trains.
It's terrible that this beautiful fully working historical loco ended up like that. Probably the last of its type anywhere. What a waste.
Bruce it eould be great if you could find more trains like this would make a great will it start video.
Alco was bought out by GE and then sold again parts are available, the Coast Guard 210 and 270 class ships are all Alco powered.
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The service air brakes on a locomotive work opposite as a tractor trailer. When you apply the breaks you are exhausting the air. When you release the brakes ,it takes air to move the shoes away from the wheels ,like spring brakes.
been to that thing several times! cool spot to take a break at!
I’ve always wanted to see a video of someone finding an abandoned train like this one, and try to make it run againn!!! Tht would be my all time favorite video for sure
I for sure would love to see will it start videos on old trains just being able to look around the one that you're at checking out is super cool
THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT VIDEO AND EDUCATION. THANKS FOR SHARING.
Pretty cool. On those big old things the generator is the starter.
The builder's / data plate is usually on the side of the deck below the cab window, but that was probably the first thing to be stolen. Highly collectible.
That gray plastic tag on the side of the locomotive is an Automatic Equipment Identifier (AEI) tag. Wayside equipment reads those tags while traveling down the track to keep track of equipment location. They're on the cars too. On both sides
Thanks for the video buddy good to see you
New River Scenic Railway ran the train consisting of a vintage 1951 former Reading railroad Alco RS3 diesel locomotive and two passenger cars shortly after R.J. Corman bought the rail line from National Coal and proceeded to terminate the excursion operation’s rights to use the tracks
I’d love to have one of those cabin cars and turn it into a cabin to vacation in out in the woods or down on the river thanks for sharing terrible people destroy everything they find anymore
Hello Mr. Bruce, thank you for your very beautiful videos, I am really sorry that I cannot be there to help you.
This appears to be an ex-Southern Railway RS-3 Loco built between 1950 & 1953 and is in the Virginian Sylvan Green livery which some of these locos received. There is a small Yellow band which runs around the top of both the Long Hood and Short hood and also a Large White band which runs along the bottom of both hoods. When the camera runs along the side of the Long Hood the name "Southern" can be seen and also briefly the camera passes over the side of the Short Hood were the circular company logo was situated which read "The Southern serves the South". All 148 Southern RS-3 were traded back to EMD except for a few others which were sold to other smaller railways.
I have 2 of these RS-3 in this livery running on my layout.
It’s a four stroke🤦🏼♂️ im wrong lol!
Are you currently in Oliver Springs,TN ? Go over to Petros,TN and Check out Brushy Mtn Prison it’s a cool place and a fun town to check out old school, lol I Commented before the end of the video 😅 We we’re just there watching Jamey Johnson 🤙
No, It's a 2 stroke.
@@Upracefan nope, this engine is definitely a 4 cycle engine.
@@Cobra4993 D!ck head I just finished it 👍
Turbo is at the back infront of the generator.
That's the new river train. Its has some pretty cool history. From where you are at, instead of turning left back into the woods, turn right and follow that towards the 2 lane highway and turn left. Ride down the road a little ways and brushy mtn state pen will be on the right.
Awesome video! I love your diesel train videos!
yea i love trains
That air starter noise on big trucks,yep that was it.sounded like an impact taking off nuts.
This is an ALCO RS3 that you've found. These are rare units and those that survive are in industrial businesses and shortlines. The passenger car is a Bombadier pullman car built in Montreal probably in the 1930s I'm guessing by looking at it.
that old train looks so sweet now the passenger car would turn that into a tiny home
Bruce, seriously I would definitely have a go at starting the loco even if it was just for the sheer hell of it
Australia, more specifically the NSWGR used modified RS-3 ALCOS called the 40 Class. The 40s were fitted with a ALCO 244 series V-12 four stroke turbocharged engine. I think most RS-3s in the US were fitted with straight 6 or 8 cylinder engines and used for switching/transfer work. The NSWGR 40 class were the first mainline diesels to work on the system but only had four traction motors per six-wheel bogie, being a A1A-A1A arrangement.
The engine was a 4 stroke ALCo 12 cylinder model 244-D. It was about 1600 horsepower. Later units were built with a 12-244G, 12-244H, or rebuilt with a 12-250. And that big empty short hood probably once housed a steam generator for heating the old steam heated coaches on the Reading Railroad in NJ and PA. Can't confirm that, these units were built for freight service, but many railroads like the Long Island and the Central Railroad of NJ did use them for commuter service after re-gearing the traction motors.
Correct on everything---except the '2 stroke ALCO'. They were all 4 stroke engines.
@@alansloan7784 you're 100% correct - and I knew that. Must have been having one of those days when I typed this comment. Thanks for catching that.
The thing at 17:00 is an Automatic Equipment Identification (AEI) tag. Think of it like an RFID chip. The builders plates are what you were looking for. They would've been mounted to the side sill the AEI tag is on. I didn't see any sign of them in the video of it in use, so they may already have been gone (builder's plates are one of the top train collectibles, and in some cases have been stolen off of locos while they were still in use, just like with horns).
Cool! An 1800 hp Alco RS-3. One of the best sounding locos.
So awesome love it please find more & start it if you can.
I can imagining you starting this and it taking off in to the woods 😂
HahahahaHAHAha! So funny.
Boardman Oregon has old abandoned train like that. I don't know what year it is though.
This was really cool video!!
Wow... My best friend, Made an excellent video. I really liked it. Beauty is extraordinary. Thank you very much for the video.
what did they see at 11:24 that made Bruce laugh and the guys groan?
Its sad people are so lazy they have destroy stuff to make money. I'm missing a leg and i still work in construction and make my money through hard work.
It’s a really cool exploration video. And I know it’s missing too many parts to get it kicked off but I really wish y’all could’ve gotten it fired up.