@@JayUpSix So you would wanna go through such a shitty taming process just for a garbage tame? It’s fine the way it is, they nerf it then it’ll be useless.
I'd support removing some of these like the astrodelphis, mana, shadowmane, tek stryder from official PVP, but there is no good reason to remove them from PVE. If you don't like them... don't tame them. So often it seems like official PVP is why we PVE'ers can't have nice things. 😂
I like how KBD changes them though, reduces their aggro radius and also makes them only steal food items, never cryopods or soul orbs or other valuables.
Yes, if ichty only stole resources they would be okay. But they can steal ANYTHING. And once gone, it is IMPOSSIBLE to recover. That's a bit O.P. and claark should have mentioned it. If they could be nerfed to only steal res, that would be good. Or let me kill them to reclaim my items (just like the pegomastax).
Agreed i could care less about the gripes of pvp players as i dont play it and never have. I was always so annoyed when a creature gets nerfed on pve due to the cries of those on pvp.
I’m surprised that Cnidaria wasn’t anywhere on this list. Not only do they effectively stun lock you and any unfortunate tame you might’ve brought with, and not only do you see them almost everywhere in all of the oceans, but their only use is biotoxin, which most of the time, you’re only using it to keep dinos unconscious. My point is, why go through the trouble of getting the stuff when Narcotics are sitting right there, with a very easy to obtain crafting recipe?
Honestly yea I would have them at the top. Having a creature that's such an ever-present risk of death that shows up everywhere is so shit, especially since the ocean is scary enough without them
@@hotdognl70 yeah but that still requires you to go in one of the most dangerous/infuriating areas in ark and potentially get ganged up on by its buddies and any other ocean creature you pissed off along the way
@@GamingwolfZJ Not if you use basilo or shoot them with crossbow from a raft in shallow water. Think the ocean is feared by many for the wrong reasons. The last characters I started were riding basilo's before thinking of megs, in fact I can't recall the last time I even bothered to tame megs on official.
@@hotdognl70 That's the reason why people hate cnidaria, it limit's people to only use basilo or the tuso, even the big bad mosa is just useless against cnidaria.
I think it would be wise for wildcard to treat PVE and PVP separately from now on. As a oficial pve player I can say that I’ve never used a Mek outside of extinction lol and it’s surprising to me how some tames have unbalanced the pvp game as opposed to pve where they are just very useful creatures, like the shadow or the mek. To me the liopleurodon is also in #1 and I think purlovias and itchtys are actually fun to deal with in pve
I agree with this beacaue most of the complaints on this list is mostly from pvp players, I agree on balancing the game to make it fair but don't ruin the whole game for non pvp players
They're an issue in PvE as well, they're just too dominant and make every other tame feel cluncky and useless. There's hardly any reason to tame anything but manes.
I think some of the creatures could be fixed with minor fixes. 6. Liopleurdon, either increase the buff or just make it a permanent tame like all the others. 4. Purlovia, remove the stun effect and then I properbly would not mind them being in the game so much. 3. Electrophorus, give them a passive slow biotoxin generation up to a full stack, or give them a saddle or even both. 1. Ichthyornis, only let it steal 1 food item at a time (And not a whole stack) and if they eat your Narcotic or Narcoberries, then they get tranqed the same amount, as if you fed it to them. And maybe even give them a minor buff to fly a little faster for a while, if they eat your stimulant or stimberries.
Your gonna love this one it’s not terrible it’s just it should be removed for it’s uselessness it’s diplo why keep it in the game if it isn’t gonna do anything I hate that they did that to the poor dude
Something else a lot don't know about the Ichtyornis, if you have it attack a dodo, or similar, it's buff makes it so you harvest prime from the body, instead of regular raw meat. For early game it's a great reason to tame the annoying Seagull.👍
I tamed one first time in years in my latest playthrough and for some reason it never brought me any prime meat, probably due to a bug. But given how extremely easy is to get it via normal means, like killing rexes / argies / stegos, I didn't miss it much. Useless tame overall and there's no reason to tame it if you are efficiency oriented, leave alone "great" reason lol. Unless you play for the memes, roleplay or whatever
@@DecoD100 Taming future creatures depending on a map/location you find yourself in: a) kill ovis b) shoot salmon harvest them with sickle c) swim to Leedsychtis, E it, harvest prime fish meat d) kill argies and carnos for prime meat. Even lower level rexes and brontos once you have a reasonably good tame like Ptera or Argy. e) waste your time on taming Inchtyornis. I chose d) when I just started ark, didn't know maps, spawn locations, relative strenghts of different dinos tamed and wild and generally didnt know shit. Back then Ichtyornis looked great to me indeed. Now it looks like a meme and a waste of time, a solution to a nonexisting problem.
@@DecoD100 I explained why they are not when you know what you are doing. You of course can keep disagreeing with zero arguments it wouldn't be the first time people who play ark in inefficient meme ways dont agree with me with no arguments.
Pegos and micro raptors can kick rocks. I think you should be immune to the attack of whatever shoulder pet you're wearing. That would add some very interesting strategy back in to the game.
One thing, I don’t feel like the Meks were really what made people go into caves. But it probably was just titans, In a split second your base gets deleted
It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure I've seen videos of people taming the ice titan with just an argent and a fabi. Far less resource investment than a mek for far more stopping power. I love them from a pve perspective but I completely understand why it killed parts of pvp.
The Ichtyornis, AKA Bully Bird, is absolutely my number 1 I'm somewhat surprised its landbound soulmate, the pack rat Pegomastax, didn't even make it to the honorable mentions. Probably because you've got a decent chance of recovering your things from them and they can be run down even while on foot.
Can you make another Top 10 with either the best or the most annoying taming method, not including stealing an egg or knock-out tames. I think that could be a cool top 10!
With leopluradon it's not that I'd want it gone just change its functionality to a perma tame like most other dinos but with out loot drop increase but keep oil skin to help breath I'd love if it was a nice early to mid sea tame or just mid sea tame something u can get instead of megs and have it have a danger mechanic where if it gets too low it gets a massive speed buff to help get out of danger
I'd prefer them officially do what KBD does for it. its got an amazing heal that outclasses owls and daeodons, and in order to get the loot buff you need to craft an expensive and fast spoiling item in its inventory.
I cannot recommend the ichthyornis low steal mod enough. It makes them only steal meat off of you, and makes them steal from you less often. There's also a version for pegos.
I think objections to the creatures on the list fall into just a few categories: 1. Doesn't "fit" in Ark (dolphin, Stryder, Mek). 2. Overpowered/unbalanced (Managarmr, Shadowmane, Mek, Dolphin, Stryder). 3. Useless (Liopleurodon, Electrophorus, Purlovia, Insect Swarm) Categories 2 and 3 can be SOLVED relatively easily. - Nerf Manas against humans - MASSIVELY nerf the wildly OP and unbalanced Shadowmane - Make the Liopleurodon have a USEFUL buff - Give Electrophorus useful abilities, like generating electricity when fed fish - Make purlovia useful, somehow - Icthyornis are SUPER useful for taming. HOWEVER, they take valuable stuff and destroy it. If WC just made it so they couldn't steal and destroy irreplaceable items, it would make them bearable. They could, for instance, make them DROP the item out of your inventory onto the ground, or store it in their inventory so that the item was retrievable. Or only allow certain items to be stolen. Why they made them worse than pegos is beyond me.
Wait, why is the Desmodus in the honorable mentions? It is THE cave flyer (and has omnidirectional movement), is god tier for exploring at night and can harvest blood packs and spoiled meat. It's not a combat tame, but a utility tame.
I love the purlovia its always been my favorite, while i wish they could be saddled. A bred purlovia can do soooo much damage with just a few of them, and they dont even get a pack bonus.
I'll keep Managarmr and Shadowmane, they are cool, I honestly don't care about PvP Balance. Lots of fun was taken from PvE due to PvP balancing, they could have just used different dinosaur configs for PvP and PvE, so neither suffers from changes made for that mode.
Yeah removing amazing dinos from pve because some PvP players don't like them is not the right things, its either pve will complain about the removal or pvp complaining about the non removal Btw I also play pvp
@Ebuka Okeke it's not an issue for people like yourself that enjoy them, more power to you. What I'm saying is the developers should have put more thought into it before they released it as such an OP tame to begin with. One of the biggest draws to ark in my opinion is the diversity of the creatures in the game, have 1 creature that replaces the former #1s across several niches in game is just blatant bad game design. To simplify the devs dumb down their own game when they add stuff like the shadowmane.
@@kintyjtheaardvark5549 I see what you're saying but I still think the shadowmanes and the other op creatures added to the list are perfectly fine. If you notice the genesis 2 creatures added to this list where mainly due to pvp complaints because of how op it is and I understand wher they are coming from but they have to consider that ark is not a battle royal game that needs constant balancing or atleast if they are going to do that it should only be done on official pvp servers rather than the whole game. If the shadowmane, astrodelphis and stryder were released like 3 or 4 years ago I would also agree that the are to OP and ruin the game but as of release last year when ark was theoretically supposed to be phased out and have people move to ark 2, I think it was perfectly fine to add op creatures afterall genesis 2 was supposed to be the endgame of ark 1 so it's only natural to have more op creatures in the ending of them game.
I still wouldn’t want any creatures removed, but thinking about it now, I DO think Astrodelphis should be hard-locked to Gen 2 maps only. I think that would remove the need to balance or nerf them any more. Perhaps that would resolve the OP factor of Stryders and maintain the importance of other farming tames for other maps. 🤔 just an idea, but I don’t think I’ve heard this mentioned anywhere before. At the same time other creatures should be added to other maps from day one. Maewing added to at least the island, bog spider added to Ab etc etc.
And maybe Tek Stryder could also be more difficult to get (not the taming process coz that can already suck) but requiring more missions before you can even tame low levels.. like minimum to have all gamma and beta missions complete as well as completing Rockwell Prime on any difficulty to tame up to level 100, then each Alpha mission after that allows another 5 levels?
About #6: Don’t be a fool like me and think the Liopleurodon’s mystic skin oil buff remained active after logging off, because for me _it didn‘t_ … If you manage to find & tame one, you need to make the most of these following 6 hours!
My personal top 3 would have been (in no particular order): Pegomastax: Annoying little thief that adds very little to the game Titanomyrma: Always seems to show up when needed least like when you are taming something (and ruining taming efficiency) or when you are being chased and just ran out of stamina. They also don't give enough chitin to be useful for crafting. Microraptors: Stunlocking... I'm surprised non of the above made it to the list and that something as useful as an Icthy did (early game prime is amazing on servers with low taming rates). Just walk around them if you don't want to get harassed.
I agree that Ichtyornis is very annoying but when you need Prime Meat, it's the best tame to get. Just don"t forget to put it on Hunt And Retrieve. Edit: I'm a PVE player and I don't care if those creatures don't get removed.
@@AlexEatsCats The thing is that they got very low health so you need to be carful when tranquing them cuz theamount of times I killed one while trying to tame is ridiculous
This ranking matters more for PvP than on PvE because if you don't like a creature in PvE you can just not tame them. And why don't people want futuristic things? Ark has always been futuristic even when there were only dinosaurs, not to mention staying in the realm of reality and not going futuristic or fantasy, incredibly blocks possible creativity
It would be AWESOME if the electric eels could recharge your electric rod with a hefty cooldown and recharging up to like 5 durability, it would make them at least a bit more useful
I don't really agree with this list but I can understand the frusation people have had with these creatures. The itchy bird I think if they made it where it just took food, raw meat and kibble (not tames in cryo and none food items). It would be easier to deal with. All these creatures fit in the Ark lore in one way or another. They can be countered if you know what you are doing. The only thing I wish they would have done is kept meks on extinction for the boss fight or you had a limited time to use them after they were made. A lot of the dinos need some TLC and some balance.
I'd have to agree about the ichy's. I avoid them if I can, curse when I see them, do an inventory check before attempting and then praypraypray I get through with all my good gear. However, my Richard (Xbox wouldn't let me name him Dick) has proven to be quite useful. I don't actually worry about the wild ones on the beach if I have Richard on my shoulder, he'll hit them when they hit me and worse case I chuck him in the air and he'll massacre them all while I putter about the beach. He has proven his worth when I find myself in sticky situations where I WANT a fish but am too scared of what's waiting for me to go get one, maybe even in an unfamiliar part of the map. Not my favorite, not my most hated. Nice list!
Really do not get the amount of people complaining a out the advanced and Tek creatures as if they don't fit; it is literally called Ark Survival EVOLVED. The entire theme of the game is adaptation and progression of humanity.
I love your informational and top tens. The fluidity of your narration if the video is just.. so pleasant to listen to. It was what drew me to your channel when I found it.
If a creature badly affects PvP then remove it for that. Don't spoil it for the PvE players. I love the shadowmanes because they are so great for everything. The perfect travel mount but also a good army.
I mainly play on private servers with friends so I fortunately didn't have to deal with all the broken PvP dinos. But I can say that the Ichtyornis is one of the few dinos we deleted from server. Them eating entire stacks of narcotics in a singe attack was the most annoying thing ever and it didn't help that they were pretty much everywhere on the beach (unless they nerfed that down the line). The Eel, Badger, Jellyfish and etc are annoying but at least they keep me on my toes and keep the game feeling threatening even at endgame. Another honorable mention would be the Leedsichthys, as they pretty much killed house boats in Ark which was something I enjoyed making.
This list is so surprising to me! I get why the PvP community would vote this way, but for PvE and SP, these don't matter as much. Whoever the hell said Astrodelphis is nuts! That Starwing Saddle is way fun and perfect for taming Voidwyrms! Level one for movement speed and weight, and they can chase drops all day long with ease, even deep sea! I never use Managarmr, but they are fun as heck. Shadowmane is my primary mount for traversal, caving (if it fits), and now most bosses. Strider makes sense. I could take it or leave it. Liopleurodon doesn't matter at all. Tamed it for the trophy and that was it. Mek vs Alpha King Titan is epic and fun. Purlovias could easily go. I forget they exist sometimes, until they knock me out. Electrophorus belong in the sea, which is already boring enough and lacks diversity. I can't believe the Ammonite isn't on this list. Maybe just because everyone literally forgot they exist. Insect Swarms are such a minor inconvenience that they really don't matter. Just whack them with a torch. Ichtyornis are so niche in their function but still useful, and they just suck when they snag your best 600% Longneck and its gone. Not even recoverable like the Pegomastax. That would fix a small bit of the issue with them. Also, excellent reference with the Seagulls, Stop It Now! They always poking me in the coconut! Great content as always, Raasclark! Thank you! I could talk about Ark all day.
Wait, Desmodus? But why? I get it, it's dangerous when it picks you up, but it's not that hard to deal with, and they are great fliers. Why not dirty Pego instead?
Surprised you didnt mention troodon, personally i would like to see more dinos get a new lease on life and get tweaked rather then removed, since some critters are small enough maybe able to pet some of them which lets them do a random happy emote or something
I think the eels could actually be really useful. They could work as underwater generators, maybe having a special building piece that, when placed in water with an eel within a certain range, will generate power for free, or they could be made useful in combat by having a special equipment piece made out of conductive material that boosts their electric powers
I totally agree with you on icthy. I hated this guy until I realised its buff was so useful. Now it’s one of my first tames as a means of speed taming otters and also getting prime fish for moschops or imprints. True, once you’re max levelled there are other ways to do this but if you think of it as arriving on the first map at a time when everyone was a beginner, these critters had way more utility. Another consideration is how many creatures have lost their value since the kibble rework. There was a time when you needed x to tame y to tame z etc but now seeing as there are many ways to obtain a kibble type that tames a variety of critters, some, like another example the titanboa, have no real taming value in game.
Ichty bird is one of the best early game tames.. they bring fish for taming otters/hesperornis, you can harvest the fish for prime fish meat or do the same with dodos for prime meat. problem is they are a bit too squishy for tranq arrows so you can usually only tame one mid game with a rifle + tranq darts. hitting it low leveled usually results in a dead bird instead. Maybe it just needs a bit of a TLC update instead. (slightly smaller on shoulder, bit more hp to tranq with stone, bit lower spawnweight, not destroying stolen stuff)
As a PVP player, here is my list of dinos that should be removed or nerfed: -Desmodus -Shadowmane -Stryder -Noglin -Mek -Mana -Fjordhawk -Astrodelphis -Voidwyrm -Andrewsarchus -Rhyniognatha And items: -Tek bow -Nets And features: -Free tek suit on gen2 -Easy access to element and wide variety of dinos on gen2
Love the new series man, its what keeps me going on shift over here in Europe! Been watchin since 15k subs, came for SOD2 and stayed for the good vibes.
Funny thing is that if you use a Yuty’s fear roar, you can scare purlovias out of the ground. I’ve used this method several times to run the snow cave.
I guess I'm the only one who actively tamed Liopleurodon lol On Crystal Isles, there is a cresent-shaped sandbar south of the desert that always has 2 Liopluerodon spawns at the bottom of the water right there. I would always go to the bee cave and tame them with honey, then do a loot drop run in the underwater cave near Blue Obelisk
I'd be madder at Ichthys but I have too much history with them, they are the sole reason I don't carry water, as I would legit have my water stolen every damned time, one time they even stole a water jar I didn't have (turned out it was the blueprint for one, can't even let me have a picture of a water jar, can they?), and then there's Beaky (short for Beaky Little P***k) who proceeded to massacre an entire family of dodos as I watched in horror with my first ever shiny sabertooth salmon, even bringing one over to me as I sobbed "Beaky... please let that be a fish..." Love the videos as always, just seeing Beaky take the top spot made me want to share my stories XDD
Removal is drastic for most of these, but some tweaks would be nice. For instance - if the Ichthyornis could be trolled, like if you could trick it to steal certain things from your inventory... If they steal narcotics from your inventory they will pass out would be an interesting way to tame them, and would be a good defense. Came here expecting to see ichthys, microraptors and pegos, because I'm a PvE player and I don't expect to see useful creatures identified as OP. When I saw those, I started to be concerned that Thylas would make the list and that would have been unfortunate because I would have needed sedation.
Hot take: Megalodon. At least as currently implemented. In our contemporary popular culture, Great White Sharks are high up in our conception (accurate or no) of "cool, dangerous apex predators".. In Ark, Megalodon's are just irritating sea trash. A mass of irritants you have to chew through in innumerable piles of them to do anything you want to do underwater. Not genuinely scary, just a chore. Because there's too many of them. 20 times more megs in the ocean per cubic meter than Rexes on land. There should be fewer of them and they should be, individually, scarier.
Personally I gotta disagree with so many of them. Really only agree with the Insect Swarm... as you're right why does it exist.. And I suppose the eels. because pretty lame. But people didn't vote say Cindara, a creature that cannot be tamed yet may cause more damage and frustration than the eel? Or the Onyc that's only purpose is to give mega rabies? And hating the new creatures that overtook the utility of other creatures is nuts, change is inevitable and without it this game would have been left on the shelf years ago, looking at the time saver that is the Tek Styder. Astros have an easy counter, the Trop. Shadows countered by the giga, desmos, wyverns, and andrews. Love the vid but bring on more dinos that have unique abilities so we can learn to counter them.
I tame leoplourodon all the time for looting underwater crates.... Just keep a fishing rod Loaded with honey and it doesn't spoil, use CNTRL to unload the honey when ready to use, your welcome.
Shouldn't be removed so much as fundamentally changed in terms of balance or gameplay. I love the designs and uses of almost every creature in ARK, but man... ichthyornis and microraptor are evil. I feel like Ichthy could easily be balanced by simply removing its steal feature. and I think micro would be balanced by removing its stun ability when wild... only allowing it to stun stuff while tamed.
Instead of removing them I‘d rebalance them … for example for the mana limit the beam so it’s only usable on the ground & limits it’s movement by 80% when using it. make the Liro a permanent tame & give it buffs like the Yuti for example Stuff like that
Nah... Seagulls as the most annoying? Only thing ive lost to them is a canteen and taming items like narcotics and food. While with pegos ive lost cryopods with tames in them. Nothing is more suitable for removal than the stupid shitbrick of a thief. Pardon my anger.... Many of these I have yet to tame as my wee group is doing a full go through starting on the island and are about to reach Abberation.
Seagulls, Stop it now! Great reference Raasclark, now I like you even more. And yes I do agree, while the Icthy is one of the most annoying creatures, it has uses and adds atmosphere and thus has good reasons to exist in game.
Suprised pachyrhino almsot made it,great travel Mount.Also my number 1 is rhyino A.makes most flyers feel useless B.removes the of taming some things like rexes as it just grabs them
I'm new to Ark, and I have to say those birds being #1 is exactly the correct rank. You forgot to mention that they also keep aggro infinitely even through walls. I don't even really mind the stealing mechanic. They're just OVERLY aggro and you can't hit them easily, but they are a perfect homing missle every 6-15 seconds.
In my opinion, I would say Blisk is the most annoying. We couldn't be able to fight them in close combat. One bite is enough poison to make us sleep and basically screwed. The only way to kill them is using tame animal. Its pretty much ridiculous cuz you can't really escape them unless you're on the edge of water. I had done got bit by blisk many times and had died many times.
I agree with removing all the OP PVP creatures mentioned. The annoying PVE creatures I don't have a problem with, they can all be dealt with with experience and knowledge. Eel: use a bary or basi, Ichthyornis: leave berries in 0 slot, purlovia: whistle your mount to protect you and wear armor. PVE hazard dinos just add to the survival aspect which the game lacks for the most part.
This list starts with some OP creatures which is a bit too harsh to say they should be removed. I would say i agree with you on Liopleurodon, they should make it a regular creature at this point, because everything changed so much over time that it lost it's importance. Make it poorman's Basilosaurus. I also agree that tamed Purlovia is pretty usless without the ability to ride it, although i don't mind it's ability to ambush. Microraptor to me is much more annoying than Purlovia. I think that Cnidaria should just go, because it makes almost all water creature worse by even existing. You can't reliably use anything else for water caves except Basilosaurus and Tusoteuthis. In my mind the cost of having Cnidaria in the game is much greater than benefits. Next grape is about dinos which have the ability to steal stuff. That ability is really annoying while i don't mind creatures itself, but i guess without that ability those creatures looses their reason to exist in the game. Maybe change them so wild ones only steal berries or something.. I have to mention that Rhyniognatha made Quetzal obsolete in almost every aspect, except maybe platform saddle. At least make Quetzal fast again.. Edit.: almost forgot about Troodons. While being mild nuisance when wild, if you ever had a "pleasure" of taming one, you quickly realized that it's pretty useless. So it kinda has it's purpose in the game but only as some bonus danger when wild, but as a tame ..well maybe just get a pack of raptors instead - way easier tame and can do more stuff. Very similar to Troodons are Hyaenodons - hassle to tame, not very useful.
I can't say anything about PvP, but i think for PvE they shouldn't be removed. As some comments already said everybody should be allowed to play like they want. But just to say "just don't tame them" is not good solution ether. It's like saying here enjoy a backed potat and then expect them to let the cak on the table untuched. The biggest problem i see is that some of the op creatures are too early and/or too easy to tame and kill diversity. For example every time i plan to build something gigantic (i need round about 600 000 metal for the foundation of my aktuell project.) i think just hop over to Genisys and tame a Stryder. In my opinion is the Karkinos a good example for a better way to make things easier. I still need other creatures to farm but have an esyer (and more fun) Time to collect the stuff i need. My idea to change the Stryder would be to buff other tames in an area and collect the resources from them in near proximity. In that way your old farming tames don't become useless but you had still moste of the benefits. By think's like the Ichthyosis i can just say it sucks to get yuor stuff stollen an have no way to retrieve or prevent is. My Chang: Don't let them eat non consumables, let them take them to a nearby nest wher you could collect it. It would still be annoying but not as much. And i think small annoyances are important to keep your guard up. Even if they don't achieve more than make you fear certain areas. With the op tames that only do damage like the Magna i don't have much problems. In PvP they can be banned and in PvE I don't see much difference in how you can kill everything. An Agentavis can kill much, a flock brings the night opon your enemies. Therazinos can schred Most things. Wyvern can burn down most maps twice over. Hell, somebody tryed out what a swam of Dimorphodon can kill? Ther are plenty of ways to kill in ARK. It's just different flavors. One creature i don't like and would not cry for is the Mawing. It just can too much at once. It effectively removes an komplett Mechanik. And is an incredible traveling Mount. And makes every other taming easyer and faster. Again it kills diversity. We could have three creatures instead of just one. Or make older creatures more useful throu new abilities. I think that would be a better way to go.
Keep the Desmodus and make it mandatory on all maps, including custom maps. Night vision, stealth cloaking, cave flying, and the Sanguine Elixir make it the best creature added so far.
Id rather see a reballence to other tames than see any of them gone or nerfed. Like the space dolphin is offset by the fact you beed to do quite a bit end game wise to even make its saddle. For the amount of work it takes to get to the level requirement for the saddle i would accept nothing less than a yop of the foodchain level tame. Shadowmanes not needing a saddle makes them a little too easy to get access too but at the same time a throw away trash level one is a newer players best bet for survival against more established players with access to things like manas. The meks are part of the actual lore its almost like people forget this hals always been a scifi game and tek has always been something that existed in the lore. Another thing people are forgetting is that if you remove a good chunk of those tames we go back to which tribe has the stronger gigas for a neta
As somepne who doesn't bother with kibble very often (I know, lazy people take the greatest pains) I have to agree with the seagull, it wouldn't be quite so bad if they got knocked out when they eat all of your narcs or tranqs.
Ichytornis may be annoying, but I love how much spice this creature added to my first steps in Ark. A bow shootout against one of those birds circling around my very first base is a warmly remembered highlight of my beginnings. They should most definitely stay!
I'm surprised the Pegomastax wasn't here considering that little bugger is one of the most HATED creatures in the game period due to it being such a pickpocket
I've always been somewhat fond of the Purlovia's existence in Ark, even though it isn't that great when tamed. Half of it is me loving how they look, half of it is me being immensely entertained by their infamous reputation as a jumpscare badger. I kind of wish the Purlovia gets a rework in Ark SA that makes them similar to their Kraken's Better Dinos counterpart. Edit: Personally, my least favorite creature in Ark is the Titanomyrma (ant). It doesn't feel fully implemented at ALL, existing solely to be an annoyance to players.
Here's an idea I'll throw out there if the seagull gave you a fishing buff like rarer loot or guaranteed big fish spawns I'd tame it on every single map. I already like it's rare meat ability but that can be very hut and miss with some taking minutes of the bird just swooshing around let anything it hits drop more rare meat too.
If the ichy did steal entire stacks of food i feel like it'd be less annoying. How many times have you been traveling and one of them just said oh hey nice stack of meat or nice stack of custom made food only to steal ALL of it at once. another thing is they almost NEVER miss their swoop so once you hear the swoop you know you're basically losing something. its reasons like this that i wish ark included something like "fear of fire" to smaller creatures. also surprised troodons werent on this list if i'm being honest.
I do not agree with the Ichtyornis, with my reason being that they are an excellent form or early xp and are very easy to kill once you have a bow or crossbow.
these are so crazy, what are people thinking? itchty on number 1, okay, their insanely annoying, i hate them. a game NEEDS an irritating point. nothing gets fed to you with a spoon it just makes some things slightly harder, eventhough they are insanely easy to counter (ofcourse harder early game, but your literally early game, you cant expect to have it all good and perfect) and the rest is also crazy, phoenix? mek? managarmr? shadowmane? astrodelphis? so you want to take out maybe the most unique dinos that make the game more fun and engaging and adds more variety and options to gameplay, because it "doesnt fit in the game". itll just get monotome, this isnt ooga booga simulator 650BC, no, its ark. if you can handle wearing tek gear and taming tek dinos you can handle flying one of the only tek fliers, an astrodelphis.
These Dino’s don’t need to be removed. If they locked tames to the map they were tamed on (gen2 tames having to stay on gen2) would make everything balanced. Or taking it off map reduces all stats by half and disabled all special abilities
How about stopping people from bringing tech and/or tames from different maps??? Really sucks be a beach bob on the island and along comes a wyvern and frys you then steals what little you could gather. ...
I was going to say i disagree that OP should be high on the list when useless are ignored, but having the bloody seagulls at number one made me forget all previous transgressions.
In regards to the spirit of the conversation. Voting aside. I think the real problem here is cross ark transferring of creatures. It’s been a thing since Rag and Scorched Earth. People would bring Wyverns to The Island and it was GG for every other tribe. It was just a race to raise high level Wyverns. End of story. For PVP at the very least creatures should be restricted to the maps the come from, and if you want to use those creatures use them on the maps they were intended for. PVE is a different conversation. Unless you’re on a sever with a toxic alpha tribe that camps resources and spawns and prevents other tribes from progressing by killing off everything and taking all the resources before anyone else can get them. Whatever creatures you want to use should be fine. A Skif and a Strider are gonna save you a lot of time for resource farming when you’re just trying to get the materials you need to get set up, start farming for blue prints, taming, breeding, and fighting bosses. It’s kind of the same problem GTA V had when they introduced Oppressors. The high tech stuff needs to stay where the high tech stuff belongs. Hot Take but there are much better PvP games than Ark and it’s a PVE game at it’s core. I’d rather play Single Player or on a private cluster with friends than play Official in any setting and the most popular ark youtubers must agree because they do the same thing.
Oh and my number 1 is the Titanomyra, beacause except for being annoying I just don't see any purpose for them? If they had a Queen and a hive kinda like the Giant Bee's and could maybe be fed rare mushrooms to produce sap. That could make sense to me. But as they are now, I don't see a good reason for them, to be in the game at all.
I really love Shadowmane's model. Would be a shame to see them leave the game, id much rather prefer a rebalance
I still like the Shadowmane though. Do you think it should be nerfed?
@@mightyraptor01 Most Definitely. It’s way to versatile and strong and fast
@@JayUpSix So you would wanna go through such a shitty taming process just for a garbage tame? It’s fine the way it is, they nerf it then it’ll be useless.
@@Bubstahh Hell yeah, and it’ll still be good bro. A nerf won’t turn a superstar into a g-leaguer
@@mightyraptor01 Yes, I love them but they are so overpowered
I'd support removing some of these like the astrodelphis, mana, shadowmane, tek stryder from official PVP, but there is no good reason to remove them from PVE. If you don't like them... don't tame them. So often it seems like official PVP is why we PVE'ers can't have nice things. 😂
And ichthyornis are super annoying but they are AWESOME if you tame one early game! They should be easier to tame early game though.
I like how KBD changes them though, reduces their aggro radius and also makes them only steal food items, never cryopods or soul orbs or other valuables.
Yes, if ichty only stole resources they would be okay. But they can steal ANYTHING. And once gone, it is IMPOSSIBLE to recover. That's a bit O.P. and claark should have mentioned it.
If they could be nerfed to only steal res, that would be good. Or let me kill them to reclaim my items (just like the pegomastax).
Eh, I'm okay with not having some of these at all, as a single player guy myself.
Agreed i could care less about the gripes of pvp players as i dont play it and never have. I was always so annoyed when a creature gets nerfed on pve due to the cries of those on pvp.
For the eels to make them better allow them to turn normal tranqs into shocking tranq darts when the dart were put in there inventory
I love this idea!
They do deserve a TLC tbh
Nice idea!
like the dung beetles! smart
How about Top Ten Scariest Creatures in ARK??
Good one! Alpha creatures got to be up there.
Allosaurus better be on that. Super loud footsteps
Thylas
Kaprosuchus.
Flying giga. That jumped from cliff
I’m surprised that Cnidaria wasn’t anywhere on this list. Not only do they effectively stun lock you and any unfortunate tame you might’ve brought with, and not only do you see them almost everywhere in all of the oceans, but their only use is biotoxin, which most of the time, you’re only using it to keep dinos unconscious. My point is, why go through the trouble of getting the stuff when Narcotics are sitting right there, with a very easy to obtain crafting recipe?
Honestly yea I would have them at the top. Having a creature that's such an ever-present risk of death that shows up everywhere is so shit, especially since the ocean is scary enough without them
No, they look prety on a taxidermi with a tek light!
Oh, and to make shocking tranq darts.
@@hotdognl70 yeah but that still requires you to go in one of the most dangerous/infuriating areas in ark and potentially get ganged up on by its buddies and any other ocean creature you pissed off along the way
@@GamingwolfZJ Not if you use basilo or shoot them with crossbow from a raft in shallow water.
Think the ocean is feared by many for the wrong reasons. The last characters I started were riding basilo's before thinking of megs, in fact I can't recall the last time I even bothered to tame megs on official.
@@hotdognl70 That's the reason why people hate cnidaria, it limit's people to only use basilo or the tuso, even the big bad mosa is just useless against cnidaria.
I think it would be wise for wildcard to treat PVE and PVP separately from now on. As a oficial pve player I can say that I’ve never used a Mek outside of extinction lol and it’s surprising to me how some tames have unbalanced the pvp game as opposed to pve where they are just very useful creatures, like the shadow or the mek. To me the liopleurodon is also in #1 and I think purlovias and itchtys are actually fun to deal with in pve
I agree with this beacaue most of the complaints on this list is mostly from pvp players, I agree on balancing the game to make it fair but don't ruin the whole game for non pvp players
You think purlovias and ichthy’s are fun to deal with? You sir are a mad man.
They're an issue in PvE as well, they're just too dominant and make every other tame feel cluncky and useless. There's hardly any reason to tame anything but manes.
I don’t feel like pve is that popping to make this happen
I've seen meks used to fight the Dodowyvern during Fear Evolved, but not much else outside of titan fights otherwise
I think some of the creatures could be fixed with minor fixes.
6. Liopleurdon, either increase the buff or just make it a permanent tame like all the others.
4. Purlovia, remove the stun effect and then I properbly would not mind them being in the game so much.
3. Electrophorus, give them a passive slow biotoxin generation up to a full stack, or give them a saddle or even both.
1. Ichthyornis, only let it steal 1 food item at a time (And not a whole stack) and if they eat your Narcotic or Narcoberries, then they get tranqed the same amount, as if you fed it to them. And maybe even give them a minor buff to fly a little faster for a while, if they eat your stimulant or stimberries.
Your gonna love this one it’s not terrible it’s just it should be removed for it’s uselessness it’s diplo why keep it in the game if it isn’t gonna do anything I hate that they did that to the poor dude
Having them steal narcotics as a taming method would be more interesting
The first time I saw a ravager I got jump scared, they're like literal hell hounds, I imagine they're what pitbull haters see- when they see a pitbull
Something else a lot don't know about the Ichtyornis, if you have it attack a dodo, or similar, it's buff makes it so you harvest prime from the body, instead of regular raw meat. For early game it's a great reason to tame the annoying Seagull.👍
i agree, the ichtyornis annoying as they are make future taming many other creatures much easier. keep them and take the pego's any day please lol
I tamed one first time in years in my latest playthrough and for some reason it never brought me any prime meat, probably due to a bug. But given how extremely easy is to get it via normal means, like killing rexes / argies / stegos, I didn't miss it much. Useless tame overall and there's no reason to tame it if you are efficiency oriented, leave alone "great" reason lol. Unless you play for the memes, roleplay or whatever
@@DecoD100 Taming future creatures depending on a map/location you find yourself in: a) kill ovis b) shoot salmon harvest them with sickle c) swim to Leedsychtis, E it, harvest prime fish meat d) kill argies and carnos for prime meat. Even lower level rexes and brontos once you have a reasonably good tame like Ptera or Argy. e) waste your time on taming Inchtyornis.
I chose d) when I just started ark, didn't know maps, spawn locations, relative strenghts of different dinos tamed and wild and generally didnt know shit. Back then Ichtyornis looked great to me indeed. Now it looks like a meme and a waste of time, a solution to a nonexisting problem.
@@godfreyofbouillon966 i dont agree, ichty's are handy when starting off.
@@DecoD100 I explained why they are not when you know what you are doing. You of course can keep disagreeing with zero arguments it wouldn't be the first time people who play ark in inefficient meme ways dont agree with me with no arguments.
I think they forgot microraptor
Indeed
@@Apache0175 and titanboa also
Bro, I love my microraptor.....
@@wendigoz9201 Seriously, chuck one into a fight sometime from your shoulder. They're fkng HILARIOUS!!!
And jellyfish
You should do Top 10 creepiest creatures, would be fun to see what creatures are on the votes
rockwell prime wins for that one
Basilisk for sure!
@@Bob-zm8xj nah, the freaks he calls his children win
definitely the bloodstalker, the way it moves gives me the creeps
@@heatherwallaert5165 and the way they squeak when pulling you I just creepy
Pegos and micro raptors can kick rocks.
I think you should be immune to the attack of whatever shoulder pet you're wearing. That would add some very interesting strategy back in to the game.
One thing, I don’t feel like the Meks were really what made people go into caves. But it probably was just titans, In a split second your base gets deleted
It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure I've seen videos of people taming the ice titan with just an argent and a fabi. Far less resource investment than a mek for far more stopping power. I love them from a pve perspective but I completely understand why it killed parts of pvp.
@@Madcowdiseiz Your absolutely right there
The Ichtyornis, AKA Bully Bird, is absolutely my number 1
I'm somewhat surprised its landbound soulmate, the pack rat Pegomastax, didn't even make it to the honorable mentions. Probably because you've got a decent chance of recovering your things from them and they can be run down even while on foot.
You should do a top 10 creatures that need to be overhauled in Ark 2 it would be really interesting to see the community's feedback to that list
I just want ARK to work properly...it has hundreds of bugs and lag issues that have existed since the beginning lol.
@@xxhowisuxx same
Has a top 10 non rideable creatures been done? (Excluding shoulder pets)
Can you make another Top 10 with either the best or the most annoying taming method, not including stealing an egg or knock-out tames. I think that could be a cool top 10!
With leopluradon it's not that I'd want it gone just change its functionality to a perma tame like most other dinos but with out loot drop increase but keep oil skin to help breath I'd love if it was a nice early to mid sea tame or just mid sea tame something u can get instead of megs and have it have a danger mechanic where if it gets too low it gets a massive speed buff to help get out of danger
It would be nice to have another sea dino that can tank jellies and eels besides the Basilo
I'd prefer them officially do what KBD does for it. its got an amazing heal that outclasses owls and daeodons, and in order to get the loot buff you need to craft an expensive and fast spoiling item in its inventory.
So maybe it could become normal tameable creature with area heal like Snow Owl or Daeodon just in the water
Hell, not being permanent wouldn't even be a big deal if it was just a better creature, it's weak and slow as hell
I cannot recommend the ichthyornis low steal mod enough. It makes them only steal meat off of you, and makes them steal from you less often. There's also a version for pegos.
I need this mod in my life.
I think objections to the creatures on the list fall into just a few categories:
1. Doesn't "fit" in Ark (dolphin, Stryder, Mek).
2. Overpowered/unbalanced
(Managarmr, Shadowmane, Mek, Dolphin, Stryder).
3. Useless
(Liopleurodon, Electrophorus, Purlovia, Insect Swarm)
Categories 2 and 3 can be SOLVED relatively easily.
- Nerf Manas against humans
- MASSIVELY nerf the wildly OP and unbalanced Shadowmane
- Make the Liopleurodon have a USEFUL buff
- Give Electrophorus useful abilities, like generating electricity when fed fish
- Make purlovia useful, somehow
- Icthyornis are SUPER useful for taming. HOWEVER, they take valuable stuff and destroy it. If WC just made it so they couldn't steal and destroy irreplaceable items, it would make them bearable. They could, for instance, make them DROP the item out of your inventory onto the ground, or store it in their inventory so that the item was retrievable. Or only allow certain items to be stolen. Why they made them worse than pegos is beyond me.
Wait, why is the Desmodus in the honorable mentions?
It is THE cave flyer (and has omnidirectional movement), is god tier for exploring at night and can harvest blood packs and spoiled meat.
It's not a combat tame, but a utility tame.
Thank you! I had to sift through a lot of these comments to find at least one person talking about this!
I love the desmo but I'm guessing purists dont like being able to bypass 90% of caves.
The desmo has an insane pick range
How about taking the top ten best/favourite creatures list and having a vote on which map we’d like each one added to?
Stealy birds are so useful, frankly I'm surprised Cnidaria aren't on this list.
Lost a shadowmane today to them
I love the purlovia its always been my favorite, while i wish they could be saddled. A bred purlovia can do soooo much damage with just a few of them, and they dont even get a pack bonus.
I'll keep Managarmr and Shadowmane, they are cool, I honestly don't care about PvP Balance.
Lots of fun was taken from PvE due to PvP balancing, they could have just used different dinosaur configs for PvP and PvE, so neither suffers from changes made for that mode.
Yeah removing amazing dinos from pve because some PvP players don't like them is not the right things, its either pve will complain about the removal or pvp complaining about the non removal
Btw I also play pvp
The problem with shadowmanes goes beyond PVP, they were a horribly unthought out addition to the game.
@@kintyjtheaardvark5549 what exactly do you mean because I think they are amazing and shouldn't have been nerfed atleast on pve and singleplayer
@Ebuka Okeke it's not an issue for people like yourself that enjoy them, more power to you. What I'm saying is the developers should have put more thought into it before they released it as such an OP tame to begin with. One of the biggest draws to ark in my opinion is the diversity of the creatures in the game, have 1 creature that replaces the former #1s across several niches in game is just blatant bad game design. To simplify the devs dumb down their own game when they add stuff like the shadowmane.
@@kintyjtheaardvark5549 I see what you're saying but I still think the shadowmanes and the other op creatures added to the list are perfectly fine. If you notice the genesis 2 creatures added to this list where mainly due to pvp complaints because of how op it is and I understand wher they are coming from but they have to consider that ark is not a battle royal game that needs constant balancing or atleast if they are going to do that it should only be done on official pvp servers rather than the whole game. If the shadowmane, astrodelphis and stryder were released like 3 or 4 years ago I would also agree that the are to OP and ruin the game but as of release last year when ark was theoretically supposed to be phased out and have people move to ark 2, I think it was perfectly fine to add op creatures afterall genesis 2 was supposed to be the endgame of ark 1 so it's only natural to have more op creatures in the ending of them game.
I still wouldn’t want any creatures removed, but thinking about it now, I DO think Astrodelphis should be hard-locked to Gen 2 maps only. I think that would remove the need to balance or nerf them any more. Perhaps that would resolve the OP factor of Stryders and maintain the importance of other farming tames for other maps. 🤔 just an idea, but I don’t think I’ve heard this mentioned anywhere before.
At the same time other creatures should be added to other maps from day one. Maewing added to at least the island, bog spider added to Ab etc etc.
And maybe Tek Stryder could also be more difficult to get (not the taming process coz that can already suck) but requiring more missions before you can even tame low levels.. like minimum to have all gamma and beta missions complete as well as completing Rockwell Prime on any difficulty to tame up to level 100, then each Alpha mission after that allows another 5 levels?
Ew
10:56 The song "seagulls (stop it now)" does really fit the Ichthyornis x'D Nice reference
About #6:
Don’t be a fool like me and think the Liopleurodon’s mystic skin oil buff remained active after logging off, because for me _it didn‘t_ …
If you manage to find & tame one, you need to make the most of these following 6 hours!
My personal top 3 would have been (in no particular order):
Pegomastax: Annoying little thief that adds very little to the game
Titanomyrma: Always seems to show up when needed least like when you are taming something (and ruining taming efficiency) or when you are being chased and just ran out of stamina. They also don't give enough chitin to be useful for crafting.
Microraptors: Stunlocking...
I'm surprised non of the above made it to the list and that something as useful as an Icthy did (early game prime is amazing on servers with low taming rates). Just walk around them if you don't want to get harassed.
I agree that Ichtyornis is very annoying but when you need Prime Meat, it's the best tame to get. Just don"t forget to put it on Hunt And Retrieve.
Edit: I'm a PVE player and I don't care if those creatures don't get removed.
I’ve never dont this, and will continue to not care for them.
@@AlexEatsCats The thing is that they got very low health so you need to be carful when tranquing them cuz theamount of times I killed one while trying to tame is ridiculous
@@erecto_patronum thats funny because thier hitbox is so broke I can shoot over 100 arrows into the bird without it even dying
This ranking matters more for PvP than on PvE because if you don't like a creature in PvE you can just not tame them.
And why don't people want futuristic things? Ark has always been futuristic even when there were only dinosaurs, not to mention staying in the realm of reality and not going futuristic or fantasy, incredibly blocks possible creativity
I don't think Liopleurodon should be removed, they are far more common in Crystal Isles
Maybe another top ten caves (with caves from the previous list not allowed) as we’ve had fjordur since then and many weren’t included
It would be AWESOME if the electric eels could recharge your electric rod with a hefty cooldown and recharging up to like 5 durability, it would make them at least a bit more useful
I don't really agree with this list but I can understand the frusation people have had with these creatures. The itchy bird I think if they made it where it just took food, raw meat and kibble (not tames in cryo and none food items). It would be easier to deal with. All these creatures fit in the Ark lore in one way or another. They can be countered if you know what you are doing. The only thing I wish they would have done is kept meks on extinction for the boss fight or you had a limited time to use them after they were made. A lot of the dinos need some TLC and some balance.
I'd have to agree about the ichy's. I avoid them if I can, curse when I see them, do an inventory check before attempting and then praypraypray I get through with all my good gear. However, my Richard (Xbox wouldn't let me name him Dick) has proven to be quite useful. I don't actually worry about the wild ones on the beach if I have Richard on my shoulder, he'll hit them when they hit me and worse case I chuck him in the air and he'll massacre them all while I putter about the beach. He has proven his worth when I find myself in sticky situations where I WANT a fish but am too scared of what's waiting for me to go get one, maybe even in an unfamiliar part of the map.
Not my favorite, not my most hated.
Nice list!
Top 10 for best map exclusive tame for transfer like how Desmos are good on maps that allow u to do easy cave runs since u can fly straight through em
We recently did that
@Raasclark, would you ever want leeches gone from Ark
@Raasclark oh sorry ig I missed that one lol my bad
Really do not get the amount of people complaining a out the advanced and Tek creatures as if they don't fit; it is literally called Ark Survival EVOLVED. The entire theme of the game is adaptation and progression of humanity.
I love your informational and top tens. The fluidity of your narration if the video is just.. so pleasant to listen to. It was what drew me to your channel when I found it.
Thank you ❤️
If a creature badly affects PvP then remove it for that. Don't spoil it for the PvE players. I love the shadowmanes because they are so great for everything. The perfect travel mount but also a good army.
I mainly play on private servers with friends so I fortunately didn't have to deal with all the broken PvP dinos. But I can say that the Ichtyornis is one of the few dinos we deleted from server. Them eating entire stacks of narcotics in a singe attack was the most annoying thing ever and it didn't help that they were pretty much everywhere on the beach (unless they nerfed that down the line).
The Eel, Badger, Jellyfish and etc are annoying but at least they keep me on my toes and keep the game feeling threatening even at endgame.
Another honorable mention would be the Leedsichthys, as they pretty much killed house boats in Ark which was something I enjoyed making.
This list is so surprising to me! I get why the PvP community would vote this way, but for PvE and SP, these don't matter as much.
Whoever the hell said Astrodelphis is nuts! That Starwing Saddle is way fun and perfect for taming Voidwyrms! Level one for movement speed and weight, and they can chase drops all day long with ease, even deep sea! I never use Managarmr, but they are fun as heck. Shadowmane is my primary mount for traversal, caving (if it fits), and now most bosses. Strider makes sense. I could take it or leave it. Liopleurodon doesn't matter at all. Tamed it for the trophy and that was it. Mek vs Alpha King Titan is epic and fun. Purlovias could easily go. I forget they exist sometimes, until they knock me out. Electrophorus belong in the sea, which is already boring enough and lacks diversity. I can't believe the Ammonite isn't on this list. Maybe just because everyone literally forgot they exist. Insect Swarms are such a minor inconvenience that they really don't matter. Just whack them with a torch. Ichtyornis are so niche in their function but still useful, and they just suck when they snag your best 600% Longneck and its gone. Not even recoverable like the Pegomastax. That would fix a small bit of the issue with them.
Also, excellent reference with the Seagulls, Stop It Now! They always poking me in the coconut!
Great content as always, Raasclark! Thank you! I could talk about Ark all day.
Wait, Desmodus? But why? I get it, it's dangerous when it picks you up, but it's not that hard to deal with, and they are great fliers. Why not dirty Pego instead?
Surprised you didnt mention troodon, personally i would like to see more dinos get a new lease on life and get tweaked rather then removed, since some critters are small enough maybe able to pet some of them which lets them do a random happy emote or something
I'm surprised desmos were on the special mentions considering imo they are one of the best flyers ofc but it's Def better than most others
Yh, i agree, especially as they allow you to effectively cheat any cave
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@@p3wp3wCthulhusino op
@@p3wp3wCthulhu sino can't kill sino can't instantly get u plus 30 taming or imprint sino can't make u invisible or detect enemies
@@youtubecommenter_ My Sinos can kill.
I think the eels could actually be really useful. They could work as underwater generators, maybe having a special building piece that, when placed in water with an eel within a certain range, will generate power for free, or they could be made useful in combat by having a special equipment piece made out of conductive material that boosts their electric powers
I totally agree with you on icthy. I hated this guy until I realised its buff was so useful. Now it’s one of my first tames as a means of speed taming otters and also getting prime fish for moschops or imprints. True, once you’re max levelled there are other ways to do this but if you think of it as arriving on the first map at a time when everyone was a beginner, these critters had way more utility. Another consideration is how many creatures have lost their value since the kibble rework. There was a time when you needed x to tame y to tame z etc but now seeing as there are many ways to obtain a kibble type that tames a variety of critters, some, like another example the titanboa, have no real taming value in game.
Ichty bird is one of the best early game tames.. they bring fish for taming otters/hesperornis, you can harvest the fish for prime fish meat or do the same with dodos for prime meat.
problem is they are a bit too squishy for tranq arrows so you can usually only tame one mid game with a rifle + tranq darts.
hitting it low leveled usually results in a dead bird instead.
Maybe it just needs a bit of a TLC update instead. (slightly smaller on shoulder, bit more hp to tranq with stone, bit lower spawnweight, not destroying stolen stuff)
As a PVP player, here is my list of dinos that should be removed or nerfed:
-Desmodus
-Shadowmane
-Stryder
-Noglin
-Mek
-Mana
-Fjordhawk
-Astrodelphis
-Voidwyrm
-Andrewsarchus
-Rhyniognatha
And items:
-Tek bow
-Nets
And features:
-Free tek suit on gen2
-Easy access to element and wide variety of dinos on gen2
Top 10 scariest creatures (e.g if u see this creature it’s either a jumpscare or it makes u scream “oh s***” and run off screaming)
I’d say a desmodus is up their
Love the new series man, its what keeps me going on shift over here in Europe! Been watchin since 15k subs, came for SOD2 and stayed for the good vibes.
Funny thing is that if you use a Yuty’s fear roar, you can scare purlovias out of the ground. I’ve used this method several times to run the snow cave.
I guess I'm the only one who actively tamed Liopleurodon lol
On Crystal Isles, there is a cresent-shaped sandbar south of the desert that always has 2 Liopluerodon spawns at the bottom of the water right there. I would always go to the bee cave and tame them with honey, then do a loot drop run in the underwater cave near Blue Obelisk
I'd be madder at Ichthys but I have too much history with them, they are the sole reason I don't carry water, as I would legit have my water stolen every damned time, one time they even stole a water jar I didn't have (turned out it was the blueprint for one, can't even let me have a picture of a water jar, can they?), and then there's Beaky (short for Beaky Little P***k) who proceeded to massacre an entire family of dodos as I watched in horror with my first ever shiny sabertooth salmon, even bringing one over to me as I sobbed "Beaky... please let that be a fish..."
Love the videos as always, just seeing Beaky take the top spot made me want to share my stories XDD
Again, not jellyfish, not even in the honorable mention...
Removal is drastic for most of these, but some tweaks would be nice. For instance - if the Ichthyornis could be trolled, like if you could trick it to steal certain things from your inventory... If they steal narcotics from your inventory they will pass out would be an interesting way to tame them, and would be a good defense. Came here expecting to see ichthys, microraptors and pegos, because I'm a PvE player and I don't expect to see useful creatures identified as OP. When I saw those, I started to be concerned that Thylas would make the list and that would have been unfortunate because I would have needed sedation.
Hot take: Megalodon. At least as currently implemented. In our contemporary popular culture, Great White Sharks are high up in our conception (accurate or no) of "cool, dangerous apex predators".. In Ark, Megalodon's are just irritating sea trash. A mass of irritants you have to chew through in innumerable piles of them to do anything you want to do underwater. Not genuinely scary, just a chore. Because there's too many of them. 20 times more megs in the ocean per cubic meter than Rexes on land. There should be fewer of them and they should be, individually, scarier.
No way the micro raptor didn't make this list
I agree why🧐🧐🧐
Not surprised in the slightest that the bin chickens made the top spot 😆
Personally I gotta disagree with so many of them. Really only agree with the Insect Swarm... as you're right why does it exist.. And I suppose the eels. because pretty lame. But people didn't vote say Cindara, a creature that cannot be tamed yet may cause more damage and frustration than the eel? Or the Onyc that's only purpose is to give mega rabies? And hating the new creatures that overtook the utility of other creatures is nuts, change is inevitable and without it this game would have been left on the shelf years ago, looking at the time saver that is the Tek Styder. Astros have an easy counter, the Trop. Shadows countered by the giga, desmos, wyverns, and andrews. Love the vid but bring on more dinos that have unique abilities so we can learn to counter them.
I tame leoplourodon all the time for looting underwater crates.... Just keep a fishing rod Loaded with honey and it doesn't spoil, use CNTRL to unload the honey when ready to use, your welcome.
That's a good idea! Never knew that.
You should do a top ten for over rated dinos, I saw you did under rated dinos so I think this completes it
Shouldn't be removed so much as fundamentally changed in terms of balance or gameplay. I love the designs and uses of almost every creature in ARK, but man... ichthyornis and microraptor are evil. I feel like Ichthy could easily be balanced by simply removing its steal feature. and I think micro would be balanced by removing its stun ability when wild... only allowing it to stun stuff while tamed.
You know what be a good video idea is "Top 10 caving dino" I'm not sure if you done this or not but if you haven't pls make one.
We've done one mate
@@Raasclark I'll go check it out then
Stryder is that broken it actually makes farming not a pain most of us have jobs an don’t have time to make three hour journey
Instead of removing them I‘d rebalance them … for example for the mana limit the beam so it’s only usable on the ground & limits it’s movement by 80% when using it.
make the Liro a permanent tame & give it buffs like the Yuti for example
Stuff like that
You should do a list of ten dinos that ppl want a tek version of or a tek saddle for
Nah... Seagulls as the most annoying? Only thing ive lost to them is a canteen and taming items like narcotics and food. While with pegos ive lost cryopods with tames in them. Nothing is more suitable for removal than the stupid shitbrick of a thief. Pardon my anger.... Many of these I have yet to tame as my wee group is doing a full go through starting on the island and are about to reach Abberation.
Seagulls, Stop it now! Great reference Raasclark, now I like you even more.
And yes I do agree, while the Icthy is one of the most annoying creatures, it has uses and adds atmosphere and thus has good reasons to exist in game.
Suprised pachyrhino almsot made it,great travel Mount.Also my number 1 is rhyino A.makes most flyers feel useless B.removes the of taming some things like rexes as it just grabs them
I'm new to Ark, and I have to say those birds being #1 is exactly the correct rank. You forgot to mention that they also keep aggro infinitely even through walls. I don't even really mind the stealing mechanic. They're just OVERLY aggro and you can't hit them easily, but they are a perfect homing missle every 6-15 seconds.
not gonna lie but the voting is kind off wack, most of them are overall useful creatures that mostly appears on 1 or 2 maps
In my opinion, I would say Blisk is the most annoying. We couldn't be able to fight them in close combat. One bite is enough poison to make us sleep and basically screwed. The only way to kill them is using tame animal. Its pretty much ridiculous cuz you can't really escape them unless you're on the edge of water. I had done got bit by blisk many times and had died many times.
I agree with removing all the OP PVP creatures mentioned. The annoying PVE creatures I don't have a problem with, they can all be dealt with with experience and knowledge. Eel: use a bary or basi, Ichthyornis: leave berries in 0 slot, purlovia: whistle your mount to protect you and wear armor. PVE hazard dinos just add to the survival aspect which the game lacks for the most part.
This list starts with some OP creatures which is a bit too harsh to say they should be removed. I would say i agree with you on Liopleurodon, they should make it a regular creature at this point, because everything changed so much over time that it lost it's importance. Make it poorman's Basilosaurus. I also agree that tamed Purlovia is pretty usless without the ability to ride it, although i don't mind it's ability to ambush. Microraptor to me is much more annoying than Purlovia. I think that Cnidaria should just go, because it makes almost all water creature worse by even existing. You can't reliably use anything else for water caves except Basilosaurus and Tusoteuthis. In my mind the cost of having Cnidaria in the game is much greater than benefits. Next grape is about dinos which have the ability to steal stuff. That ability is really annoying while i don't mind creatures itself, but i guess without that ability those creatures looses their reason to exist in the game. Maybe change them so wild ones only steal berries or something.. I have to mention that Rhyniognatha made Quetzal obsolete in almost every aspect, except maybe platform saddle. At least make Quetzal fast again..
Edit.: almost forgot about Troodons. While being mild nuisance when wild, if you ever had a "pleasure" of taming one, you quickly realized that it's pretty useless. So it kinda has it's purpose in the game but only as some bonus danger when wild, but as a tame ..well maybe just get a pack of raptors instead - way easier tame and can do more stuff. Very similar to Troodons are Hyaenodons - hassle to tame, not very useful.
I can't say anything about PvP, but i think for PvE they shouldn't be removed. As some comments already said everybody should be allowed to play like they want. But just to say "just don't tame them" is not good solution ether.
It's like saying here enjoy a backed potat and then expect them to let the cak on the table untuched.
The biggest problem i see is that some of the op creatures are too early and/or too easy to tame and kill diversity.
For example every time i plan to build something gigantic (i need round about 600 000 metal for the foundation of my aktuell project.) i think just hop over to Genisys and tame a Stryder. In my opinion is the Karkinos a good example for a better way to make things easier. I still need other creatures to farm but have an esyer (and more fun) Time to collect the stuff i need.
My idea to change the Stryder would be to buff other tames in an area and collect the resources from them in near proximity. In that way your old farming tames don't become useless but you had still moste of the benefits.
By think's like the Ichthyosis i can just say it sucks to get yuor stuff stollen an have no way to retrieve or prevent is.
My Chang: Don't let them eat non consumables, let them take them to a nearby nest wher you could collect it. It would still be annoying but not as much.
And i think small annoyances are important to keep your guard up. Even if they don't achieve more than make you fear certain areas.
With the op tames that only do damage like the Magna i don't have much problems. In PvP they can be banned and in PvE I don't see much difference in how you can kill everything. An Agentavis can kill much, a flock brings the night opon your enemies. Therazinos can schred Most things. Wyvern can burn down most maps twice over. Hell, somebody tryed out what a swam of Dimorphodon can kill? Ther are plenty of ways to kill in ARK. It's just different flavors.
One creature i don't like and would not cry for is the Mawing. It just can too much at once. It effectively removes an komplett Mechanik. And is an incredible traveling Mount. And makes every other taming easyer and faster.
Again it kills diversity. We could have three creatures instead of just one. Or make older creatures more useful throu new abilities. I think that would be a better way to go.
I'm old enough to remember when this was a game about surviving on an island full of dinosaurs...
Keep the Desmodus and make it mandatory on all maps, including custom maps. Night vision, stealth cloaking, cave flying, and the Sanguine Elixir make it the best creature added so far.
Id rather see a reballence to other tames than see any of them gone or nerfed. Like the space dolphin is offset by the fact you beed to do quite a bit end game wise to even make its saddle. For the amount of work it takes to get to the level requirement for the saddle i would accept nothing less than a yop of the foodchain level tame. Shadowmanes not needing a saddle makes them a little too easy to get access too but at the same time a throw away trash level one is a newer players best bet for survival against more established players with access to things like manas. The meks are part of the actual lore its almost like people forget this hals always been a scifi game and tek has always been something that existed in the lore. Another thing people are forgetting is that if you remove a good chunk of those tames we go back to which tribe has the stronger gigas for a neta
As somepne who doesn't bother with kibble very often (I know, lazy people take the greatest pains) I have to agree with the seagull, it wouldn't be quite so bad if they got knocked out when they eat all of your narcs or tranqs.
Ichytornis may be annoying, but I love how much spice this creature added to my first steps in Ark. A bow shootout against one of those birds circling around my very first base is a warmly remembered highlight of my beginnings. They should most definitely stay!
Without these creatures, ARK wouldn't be well... ARK
I'm surprised the Pegomastax wasn't here considering that little bugger is one of the most HATED creatures in the game period due to it being such a pickpocket
I've always been somewhat fond of the Purlovia's existence in Ark, even though it isn't that great when tamed. Half of it is me loving how they look, half of it is me being immensely entertained by their infamous reputation as a jumpscare badger.
I kind of wish the Purlovia gets a rework in Ark SA that makes them similar to their Kraken's Better Dinos counterpart.
Edit: Personally, my least favorite creature in Ark is the Titanomyrma (ant). It doesn't feel fully implemented at ALL, existing solely to be an annoyance to players.
Here's an idea I'll throw out there if the seagull gave you a fishing buff like rarer loot or guaranteed big fish spawns I'd tame it on every single map.
I already like it's rare meat ability but that can be very hut and miss with some taking minutes of the bird just swooshing around let anything it hits drop more rare meat too.
I still think the microraptors deserved a spot or a mention
Wildcard trying to explain why having a small dino steal your stuff is important:
If the ichy did steal entire stacks of food i feel like it'd be less annoying. How many times have you been traveling and one of them just said oh hey nice stack of meat or nice stack of custom made food only to steal ALL of it at once. another thing is they almost NEVER miss their swoop so once you hear the swoop you know you're basically losing something. its reasons like this that i wish ark included something like "fear of fire" to smaller creatures. also surprised troodons werent on this list if i'm being honest.
I do not agree with the Ichtyornis, with my reason being that they are an excellent form or early xp and are very easy to kill once you have a bow or crossbow.
these are so crazy, what are people thinking?
itchty on number 1, okay, their insanely annoying, i hate them.
a game NEEDS an irritating point. nothing gets fed to you with a spoon
it just makes some things slightly harder, eventhough they are insanely easy to counter (ofcourse harder early game, but your literally early game, you cant expect to have it all good and perfect)
and the rest is also crazy, phoenix? mek? managarmr? shadowmane? astrodelphis?
so you want to take out maybe the most unique dinos that make the game more fun and engaging and adds more variety and options to gameplay, because it "doesnt fit in the game". itll just get monotome, this isnt ooga booga simulator 650BC, no, its ark. if you can handle wearing tek gear and taming tek dinos you can handle flying one of the only tek fliers, an astrodelphis.
These Dino’s don’t need to be removed. If they locked tames to the map they were tamed on (gen2 tames having to stay on gen2) would make everything balanced. Or taking it off map reduces all stats by half and disabled all special abilities
Ew
Microraptor? Pegomastax? Terror bird? Sabertooth? Kentro? Amarga? Crystal wyvern? Maewing? Astrocetus? Voidwyrm? Kapro? Diplocaulus? Leach? Diplodocus?
How about stopping people from bringing tech and/or tames from different maps???
Really sucks be a beach bob on the island and along comes a wyvern and frys you then steals what little you could gather. ...
I was going to say i disagree that OP should be high on the list when useless are ignored, but having the bloody seagulls at number one made me forget all previous transgressions.
ichhthyornus is not a problem in asa now, it still steals stuff but after it does it once it leaves you alone, and it wont chase you for long either
In regards to the spirit of the conversation. Voting aside. I think the real problem here is cross ark transferring of creatures. It’s been a thing since Rag and Scorched Earth. People would bring Wyverns to The Island and it was GG for every other tribe. It was just a race to raise high level Wyverns. End of story. For PVP at the very least creatures should be restricted to the maps the come from, and if you want to use those creatures use them on the maps they were intended for. PVE is a different conversation. Unless you’re on a sever with a toxic alpha tribe that camps resources and spawns and prevents other tribes from progressing by killing off everything and taking all the resources before anyone else can get them. Whatever creatures you want to use should be fine. A Skif and a Strider are gonna save you a lot of time for resource farming when you’re just trying to get the materials you need to get set up, start farming for blue prints, taming, breeding, and fighting bosses. It’s kind of the same problem GTA V had when they introduced Oppressors. The high tech stuff needs to stay where the high tech stuff belongs.
Hot Take but there are much better PvP games than Ark and it’s a PVE game at it’s core. I’d rather play Single Player or on a private cluster with friends than play Official in any setting and the most popular ark youtubers must agree because they do the same thing.
Oh and my number 1 is the Titanomyra, beacause except for being annoying I just don't see any purpose for them? If they had a Queen and a hive kinda like the Giant Bee's and could maybe be fed rare mushrooms to produce sap. That could make sense to me. But as they are now, I don't see a good reason for them, to be in the game at all.
Cementing paste
For beezelbufo
An idea you could do for a tier list, Best looking dinosaurs, And only dinosaurs not mammals or mystical things just dinosaurs
The itchy isnt on top because it’s annoying on early game players, i mainly voted for it because I have lost many 100s of narcotics
To them.
I remember when a ichthyornis stole and ate my water jar that had nothing in it so it just ate glass...
Something tells me a good few of these are voted out by pvp peeps that have recently been killed by someone on such dino