I live in Thailand and buy my oil filters from the dealer, that's the only way to be reasonably certain not to get a knockoff. You absolutely cannot tell from the packaging.
am in thailand as well. just bought an yzzn2 oil filter on lazada (thai version of amazon/ebay) for wife's 2016 toyota yaris ativ. this is the newer version of yzze1. seller has a 99% rating based on 500 reviews. only bad review was somebody got the wrong filter. box has the hologram oriented correctly. filter passes all the visual tests shown in the video except weight which i cant verify. even came with a washer for the oil drain nut - toyota charges separately for. almost same price as toyota charged me last oil change. am a few hours drive from nearest dealer so decided to diy. i would swear filter is genuine but seeing this am worried.
So does the counterfeit filter work? It seems it uses more materials, so it may be better than the original. Your video didn’t really have an argument - just that one is original and one is aftermarket. Aftermarket doesn’t mean inferior - perhaps it’s better.
From what I’ve seen and heard from the Toyota Europe channel, the counterfeit part is less dense than the OEM filter, causing less filtering. A reason for the video too is if you’re out looking for an OEM filter, you want to make sure you are getting what you pay for. At least that’s how I feel
You should have cut it into halves and describe its inner working condition to make it easier to understand. Your video content is almost identical to others which technically makes your video review a fake/ counterfeit too.
Toyota oil filters are made by Denso of which Toyota owns 25% of. Most likely Denso has a factory in Chine or has licenes out to another company to make oil filters for Toyota.
I don’t care about the trivial cometic differences. If the filtering media performs the same for 1/4 of OEM, why not. You need these counterfeiters to keep the OEMs in check with their outrageous price points.
Tks Hydher, you light up my day as I am about to shop for toyota vios NCP93 filters for my next service and this counterfeit parts issue always cropped up in my mind. I been searching high and low in the internet for a clear description on how to spot counterfeits and your video is spot on.
When we hear the word “counterfeit” we think it’s garbage or useless but looking at it and the weigh test i don’t really see the difference all that much? Gotta cut it open and see more to tell how different they really are. If everything looks identical is it really a big deal? I bought an OEM Toyota filter for my Tacoma at Walmart, a company I trust, but it’s a rarity I find one at my local Walmart so it’s pain to get and I’m not going to the dealer for something like that but I saw on Amazon a pack of 3 filters with 3 new washers for the drain bolt for 21$ but am a little skeptical of how genuine they are.. normally I run Mobil 1 filter or K&N but those are both like twice the price as the OEM one. At the end of the day I don’t think it matters as long as you change it when the vehicle manufacturer says you should be good with whatever filter on there but I like to drive myself crazy thinking about it lol.
I own Toyota vehicles and Kubota tractors. All are made in Japan. Then a dealer supplies branded filters made in China!!! I nearly have a panic attack.
Hey them knock off’s would work great on a Chevy, since Chevrolet likes to invest heavily in CHINA. Ford to, they would work great on a ford, since they only last 2 years anyway
No. I would not knowingly risk using a counterfeit filter (oil or engine air filter). I also usually avoid all made in China car parts including filters even if they ain't counterfeit.
Are you sure counterfeit filter is worse than the original one? I watched a few videos where they cut open and compared different filters and one point of comparison was the weight, the heavier the filter the better it was.
made from Thailand, USA,or Japan are still TOYOTA FACTORY....looked different but still OK because from times to times they change DESIGN without Notice is still LEGAL....NOT FAKE...no one dare to do so cost more to court and jail times the benefit of FAKE factory products
They all factory Toyota...but some times made from different countries..NOT FAKE because in the USA if you do that ..people will bring you to court and a lot of big things to bother who dare to do that and also the DIFFERENT like that some times is NORMAL because the factory times to times they CHANGE THE DESIGN withou NOTICE to the consumers is NORMAL TOO......Happened to me before about TOYOTA FILTERS and I came to dealers and asked people in dealerships and they said so
@@hydhershah3246 Both have the same part number, but between the holes which are on the oil filter , sometimes I find 1 and another time I find 2. I don’t know why?
@@TaijiArban Someone told me that It stands for the factory number of Toyota in Japan since Toyota has many branches. I’m not sure if he’s right or not.😅😅
@@yahya1054 I doubt it. If anything it would be to differentiate the economy filter to the premium filter. Toyota does something similar to their brakes as well.
The concern is about safety. When your filter is stuck, there is better chance e original cleats will stay in shape. Another to be concerned of is the drain back valve is of correct specs. Failure to do so might lead to engine damage. Lastly the quality of the Gasket . Anyway have used the fake filter for 10 000km without hiccups. With the slight minimum in price difference, i will get the original for a piece of mind.
The quality of the filter media that traps and fillters the oil is a major concern is not worth specially when you can buy as many as you want in your Toyota dealership, I just ask them do you still have your oil fillters for 5 dollars and they tell me how many do you need. For oil fillters and air filters the dealership has them cheaper than Amazon and Walmart.
Not all filters are built same. There's a reason some are more expensive than others such as Fram regular to Fram Tough guard to Fram Ultra. They filter more particles and these counterfeit ones are most likely built with cheaper filter media that will not filter as much as an original filter. If you are gonna buy an original filter, just buy it through the dealership. I remember a youtuber saying that if companies are scared to put their brand name in their product and instead produce counterfeits claiming to be original, then even cheap aftermarket products made by companies that put their brand name on it will be more reliable and reputable because they aren't scared of putting their brand name in their product.
If it's a cabin air filter then it's just a filter. If it's an engine oil or air filter then they are important for keeping the inside of your engine clean which should result in a longer lasting more efficient engine.
Level of filtration...... anti-drainback valve function.....spring pressure level used for the bypass-point....all of these can be different between fake and real.
I live in Thailand and buy my oil filters from the dealer, that's the only way to be reasonably certain not to get a knockoff. You absolutely cannot tell from the packaging.
am in thailand as well. just bought an yzzn2 oil filter on lazada (thai version of amazon/ebay) for wife's 2016 toyota yaris ativ. this is the newer version of yzze1. seller has a 99% rating based on 500 reviews. only bad review was somebody got the wrong filter. box has the hologram oriented correctly. filter passes all the visual tests shown in the video except weight which i cant verify. even came with a washer for the oil drain nut - toyota charges separately for. almost same price as toyota charged me last oil change. am a few hours drive from nearest dealer so decided to diy. i would swear filter is genuine but seeing this am worried.
So does the counterfeit filter work? It seems it uses more materials, so it may be better than the original. Your video didn’t really have an argument - just that one is original and one is aftermarket. Aftermarket doesn’t mean inferior - perhaps it’s better.
From what I’ve seen and heard from the Toyota Europe channel, the counterfeit part is less dense than the OEM filter, causing less filtering. A reason for the video too is if you’re out looking for an OEM filter, you want to make sure you are getting what you pay for. At least that’s how I feel
You should have cut it into halves and describe its inner working condition to make it easier to understand. Your video content is almost identical to others which technically makes your video review a fake/ counterfeit too.
@Good Morning You should start your own channel with 100% original content ALL of the time! You would be great at it! ;-)
For anyone in North America, Walmart sells the Toyota filters in store. They are genuine.
Never seen that, I always buy filters at Walmart for my six cars and never seen a Toyota filter at Walmart in AZ
@@joking6052 I was just in Arizona and all the Walmarts near phoenix have them
Why take a chance? I will just continue using a Purolator Oil Filter built in the United States.
I love your voice very much. And please do more video of Mimi ❤️
Toyota oil filters are made by Denso of which Toyota owns 25% of. Most likely Denso has a factory in Chine or has licenes out to another company to make oil filters for Toyota.
if it was a real denso toyota filter made in china, it would say "made in china"
@@dekalogue Does it matter where the filter is made? As long as it does it´s job.
@@markwarnberg9504 a filter that lies where it's made is a bad filter. my xiaomi phone is great and is proudly made in china
@@dekalogue Strainge resoning, not everything is stamped "MADE IN ......" and who cares where it is made! as I said "As long as it does it´s job!!"
@@markwarnberg9504 but does it do its job though?
any performance different?
I don’t care about the trivial cometic differences. If the filtering media performs the same for 1/4 of OEM, why not. You need these counterfeiters to keep the OEMs in check with their outrageous price points.
NOTHING HE SAID MATTERS😂😂😂😂
Counterfeit looks more original
check 8 holes,fake has smaller holes
Please test North Korean Oil Filters!
Tks Hydher, you light up my day as I am about to shop for toyota vios NCP93 filters for my next service and this counterfeit parts issue always cropped up in my mind. I been searching high and low in the internet for a clear description on how to spot counterfeits and your video is spot on.
changed design from FACTORY from times to times also NORMAL WITHOUT NOTICES is LEGAL TOO
Check the Car Care Nut channel on RUclips. He has a big video on parts
I would rather buy spare parts at umw toyota than a spare parts store, although umw toyota is a bit expensive, but it's best to invest in your own car
Hi Mimi 😺
When we hear the word “counterfeit” we think it’s garbage or useless but looking at it and the weigh test i don’t really see the difference all that much? Gotta cut it open and see more to tell how different they really are. If everything looks identical is it really a big deal? I bought an OEM Toyota filter for my Tacoma at Walmart, a company I trust, but it’s a rarity I find one at my local Walmart so it’s pain to get and I’m not going to the dealer for something like that but I saw on Amazon a pack of 3 filters with 3 new washers for the drain bolt for 21$ but am a little skeptical of how genuine they are.. normally I run Mobil 1 filter or K&N but those are both like twice the price as the OEM one. At the end of the day I don’t think it matters as long as you change it when the vehicle manufacturer says you should be good with whatever filter on there but I like to drive myself crazy thinking about it lol.
I own Toyota vehicles and Kubota tractors. All are made in Japan. Then a dealer supplies branded filters made in China!!! I nearly have a panic attack.
Thanks a lot.
207 grams Vs 173 Grams, the "counterfeit" one uses more materials than the "Authenticate" one. I would say the the 173 grams one is a counterfeit.
I wanna buy oem original servicing parts……. How can I order uk
Keep up enlighten thanks soo much
Hey them knock off’s would work great on a Chevy, since Chevrolet likes to invest heavily in CHINA. Ford to, they would work great on a ford, since they only last 2 years anyway
Thank you for your tips, I was very suspicious about these oil filters and I had a feeling that they were imposters . Thanks
What About K & N Oil Filters?
Mine says "Made in USA"
YOU WOULD MAKE A GREAT ROBO CALLER SELLING AUTO WARRANTY KINDA SUCKS
Where did you get the counterfeit? Inform on where to avoid these.
Shopee. Best to buy thru your dealer for a peace of mind
Amazon and eBay feature counterfeit parts. Best to avoid those sources EXCEPT when it's coming from a bonafide dealer selling on those sites.
Да подделка по качеству может даже лучше будет 😂
Hi mimi💜
Interesting
Are the onrs on Amazon countrtfeit?
Amazon and eBay are full of counterfeit parts...
Always buy from dealer. Never from Amazon or Ebay.
No. I would not knowingly risk using a counterfeit filter (oil or engine air filter). I also usually avoid all made in China car parts including filters even if they ain't counterfeit.
I usually avoid anything made in China or Germany for ethical reasons
Yeah!! ‘Merica!!
Thanks bro for your info and sharing
Hey we have the same name
Are you sure counterfeit filter is worse than the original one? I watched a few videos where they cut open and compared different filters and one point of comparison was the weight, the heavier the filter the better it was.
May I know how you source the original parts or any recommendations where/how to get it in Malaysia.
Hi, best to ask ur club for reccomendation. Avoid the workshops. The official dealer will be very expensive
made from Thailand, USA,or Japan are still TOYOTA FACTORY....looked different but still OK because from times to times they change DESIGN without Notice is still LEGAL....NOT FAKE...no one dare to do so cost more to court and jail times the benefit of FAKE factory products
Malaysia??? not hear before.....sometimes the box look same color but the brand is different..still normal..not FAKE or anything
@@ThepDenNgoaiBien you live in a bubble. Check out toyota warning on counterfeit products.
They all factory Toyota...but some times made from different countries..NOT FAKE because in the USA if you do that ..people will bring you to court and a lot of big things to bother who dare to do that and also the DIFFERENT like that some times is NORMAL because the factory times to times they CHANGE THE DESIGN withou NOTICE to the consumers is NORMAL TOO......Happened to me before about TOYOTA FILTERS and I came to dealers and asked people in dealerships and they said so
Here in the USA , I use AmsOil brand for my 2020 Toyota Camry LE .
Brothers,
Could you please tell me what do number 1 and 2 mean on the oil filter?
2 is longer.
Use whats is reccomended for your car.
@@hydhershah3246 Both have the same part number, but between the holes which are on the oil filter , sometimes I find 1 and another time I find 2. I don’t know why?
@@yahya1054 maybe whoever made the counterfeits were too lazy to find the difference? I don't know lol
@@TaijiArban Someone told me that It stands for the factory number of Toyota in Japan since Toyota has many branches. I’m not sure if he’s right or not.😅😅
@@yahya1054 I doubt it. If anything it would be to differentiate the economy filter to the premium filter. Toyota does something similar to their brakes as well.
Buy the counterfeit one, same quality, much less price.
I buy genuine Toyota for less than $5 each.....how much cheaper do you want and risk quality issues ?
So the genuine filter weighs less?
Fake 207g
Original 173g
perhaps one is aluminum, the other steel. Aluminum is more expensive and lighter. Just a hypothesis...
What would be the difference in performance though? Its just a filter
The concern is about safety. When your filter is stuck, there is better chance e original cleats will stay in shape. Another to be concerned of is the drain back valve is of correct specs. Failure to do so might lead to engine damage. Lastly the quality of the Gasket . Anyway have used the fake filter for 10 000km without hiccups. With the slight minimum in price difference, i will get the original for a piece of mind.
The quality of the filter media that traps and fillters the oil is a major concern is not worth specially when you can buy as many as you want in your Toyota dealership, I just ask them do you still have your oil fillters for 5 dollars and they tell me how many do you need. For oil fillters and air filters the dealership has them cheaper than Amazon and Walmart.
Not all filters are built same. There's a reason some are more expensive than others such as Fram regular to Fram Tough guard to Fram Ultra. They filter more particles and these counterfeit ones are most likely built with cheaper filter media that will not filter as much as an original filter.
If you are gonna buy an original filter, just buy it through the dealership. I remember a youtuber saying that if companies are scared to put their brand name in their product and instead produce counterfeits claiming to be original, then even cheap aftermarket products made by companies that put their brand name on it will be more reliable and reputable because they aren't scared of putting their brand name in their product.
If it's a cabin air filter then it's just a filter. If it's an engine oil or air filter then they are important for keeping the inside of your engine clean which should result in a longer lasting more efficient engine.
Level of filtration...... anti-drainback valve function.....spring pressure level used for the bypass-point....all of these can be different between fake and real.