Messi after world cup and 2 golden balls and 8 ballondor ,he can not be compared with any one...to think of any one than messi would be injustice with football itself
As a ronaldo fan, He has been my idol, his way of playing has pushed me through hard times. I would really like to see him win it. But i wont be suprised if messi wins it, he is one of if not the greatest player to ever play football, I respect him as well as cristiano, it will be sad for me if cristiano doesnt win it for sure, but I understand if messi does, he redifined the game with his dribbiling, shooting, passing, and led a barcelona team right to the very top, Respect for both of them, they are both the goats
@@crem44, that would be the most ideal thing to do,, i am more of a messi fan than ronaldo, but i love ronaldo as well.... These two have redifined the game of football.... Players come and go, but i dont think anyone can replicate what these two have done on the football pitch.... My only dream was to watch them both play together for the same team.... Just imagine how dope that would be....
Lionel Messi the most decorated footballer in football history he is the only worthy air to such a award ronaldo was a sensational player and worked hard for the achievements in his career but Messi has won and done far too much to not receive the award. The fact he has most balondor and golden boots just leverages him even closer to getting it
Fact is Messi fans knows very well that his a FIFA boy who was part of the corruption made by FC Barcelona we don't care if people will say Ronaldo fan must keep crying atleast he never played for a team that was Once involved in a corruption
@@seloanepercy4317 ronaldo has played for real they are involved in controversy, in the 3ucls campaigns ronaldo scored 18 offside goals even one against Bayern on the ucl final, not 1 was disallowed.
Bro Anthony has more prem goals than both ronaldo and messi combined in 2024. He has lost fewer games against Pele and Maradona than messi and ronaldo lost games in their careers. He is the only one right now at a European club. He is also still in the ucl. You cannot argue that, he is truly a phenomenon never seen before and will never be seen again, it's only right that he wins it
Cristiano Ronaldo hopes the Super Ballon d'Or judging criteria will not change. In the football community throughout Europe and the world, it is clear that only Lionel Messi is worthy of receiving it.
What Ronaldo needs to do to reach Messi level: 1 WC(1) 2 WC golden balls(2) 2 golden boots(3) 1 world record(4) 5 Playmaker awards(5) 3 laureus awards(6) 178 assists(7) 216 MOTM(8) 1 golden boy(9) 1 FIFA the best(10) 6 WC KO goals(11) 5 WC KO assists(12) 1 treble(13) 1 sextuple(14) 9 trophies(15) 11 assists(16) 2 freekick goals(17) 4 domestic cups(18) 4 league titles(19) 2 WC final goals(20) Things that he needs to do:20 What Messi needs to do to reach Ronaldo's level: 40 UCL records(1) 2 UCL assists(2) 40 goals(3) 1 golden foot(4) 1 Puskas award(5) 5 Globe soccer awards(6) 1 UEFA the best(7) 6 POTM awards(8) 1 FIFA special(9) 1 UCL golden boot(10) 1 Club WC(11) 2 UCL(12) 1 Player of the century(13) 18 UCL KO goals(14) 3 UCL KO assists(15) 1 Euros/Copa America goal(16) 121 headers(17) 53 Penalty goals(18) 2 UCL final goals(19) 5 hattricks(20) 88 match wins in total career(21) ⚠️Matches won in total in their whole career and matches won against each other are two different things. Things that he needs to do:21 This is why CR7 deserves super ballon d'or: Header:CR7 Assists:Messi G+A:Messi Records:Messi Goals:CR7 UCL goals:CR7 UCL assists:CR7 UCL records:CR7 Trophies:Messi Awards:Messi Prime:CR7 (I'll explain later why) IQ:Messi Mentality:CR7 Shooting:CR7 Pace:CR7 Stamina:CR7 Speed:CR7 Weak foot:CR7 Playmaking:Messi Dribbling:Messi Skills:Messi Physique:CR7 Defending:Messi WC goals:Messi WC assists:Messi International(stats):CR7 International(trophies):Messi WC records:Messi Acrobatics:CR7(This includes bycicle kicks, Volleys, ect..) WC stats:Messi UCL stats:CR7 2004:CR7 2005:CR7 2006:CR7 2007:CR7 2008:CR7 2009:Messi 2010:Messi 2011:Messi 2012:Messi 2013:CR7 2014:CR7 2015:Messi 2016:CR7 2017:CR7 2018:CR7 2019:Messi 2020:CR7 2021:Messi 2022:Messi 2023:CR7 2024:CR7 Ballon d'or nominations:Messi Ballon d'or points:Messi Ballon d'or votes:Messi Goal Ratio:Messi Hattricks:CR7 Direct confrontations:Messi Assist ratio:Messi Clutch:Ronaldo UCL KO goals:CR7 WC KO goals:Messi UCL finals:CR7 WC finals won:Messi Finals won against each other:Ronaldo WC KO assists:Messi UCL KO assists:CR7 35-32 CR7 wins. Why is prime CR7 better than Prime Messi? Messi fans🗣️Ronaldo shouldn't have won ballon d'or 2013 Ribery won more trophies than him the only thing CR7 did was score goals. Ok then.. Ronaldo 2008: Ballon d'or UCL UEFA supercup UEFA men's best player FIFA men's best player PFA young player of the year PFA player of the year EPL golden boot Golden boot EPL race award EPL POTY UCL MOTM Club WC World footballer of the year Community shield EPL league title. All of it in prime EPL. 49 Games 42 goals 12 assists A literal MIDFIELDER. Messi 2012: Club WC Golden boot Ballon d'or 91 goals in a year is impressive, but since you said Ribery deserved the Ballon d'or cus of his trophies, Haaland deserved 2023 Ballon d'or, Milito deserved 2010 ballon d'or, Van dijk deserved 2019 ballon d'or.. I know my goat, but if you think Messi's the goat then that's fine. Now let's check Messi 2009 since 2012 isn't his real prime: Copa del Rey Supercopa La Liga Club WC UCL UEFA Supercup Ballon d'or World Soccer POTY FIFA world best player of the year La Liga Pichichi(if i remember correctly). UCL MOTM Tell me if I missed anything! Messi prime 2015? Let's check if it better than CR7's: La Liga title UCL Copa del Rey Golden boot La Liga Pichichi Ballon d'or. FIFA men's best player UEFA men's best player(I think) UCL MOTM UCL top scorer(I think)? Tell me if I missed anything! It's good, but still less than CR7. 2019? La Liga title Ballon d'or FIFA men's best player La Liga Pichichi "Carried Barca" Ronaldo carried Portugal yet he gets 0 recognition for Portugal's 2 trophies. Overall Ronaldo 2008 better than all of them. And yes 2013 wasn't his best season, however Ribery did nothing with individual awards he only won team trophies. And why would Messi be 2nd? Besides,even if he robbed 2013, Messi and Ronaldo would have the same amount of ballon dors. Portugal before CR7: 1 WC bronze medal Portugal after CR7: 1 WC bronze medal 1 Euros 1 UEFA nations league. Proving Ronaldo deserved 2013 ballon d'or: Messi and Ribery combined:68 goals Ronaldo:69 goals Ronaldo: 69 goals 11 assists FIFA ballon d'or More MOTM than Messi and Ribery combined More POTM if I remember also Also won FIFA ballon d'or 2nd in Golden boot Di Stefano award And Most decisive player of La Liga "Ribery won the treble!" Haaland should have won in 2023,Lewandowski in 2021, Van Dijk in 2019,no? Also, why was Messi 2nd then? Also Ronaldo won becuz his team was trash and he was performing so well under such a bad team.. Ronaldo vs Ribery 2013 Goals:CR7 Assists:Ribery G/A:CR7 UCL stats:CR7 Trophies:Ribery MOTM:Ronaldo POTM:Ronaldo Skills:Ronaldo Dribbling:Ribery Passing:Ribery. Ronaldo smashes Ribery. Ribery stat 2012/13(Source:Google): 56 games 26 goals 27 assists Playing in Bundesliga with strongest team. Cr7 stats 2013: 69 goals Golden boot shared with Suarez. UCL top scorer. IFFHS best scorer in the first division. La Liga player of the month. 16 assists Playing in La Liga Most decisive player of LA Liga. Also record for scoring at least 1 goal in every match. "You didnt prove anything for 2013!" For me ballon d'or winner means you either get a record or win trophies. Ronaldo got a record and won 3 individual awards(di Stefano award, FIFA ballon d'or and most decisive player of La Liga),so he deserved it. Also why was messi 2nd? Ronaldo vs Messi league wise(midway career): Messi: 🇪🇸La Liga✅ 🇪🇸Copa del Rey✅ 🇪🇸Supercopa de Espana✅ 🇫🇷Ligue 1✅ 🇫🇷Supercoupe de France ✅ 🇫🇷Coupe de France❌ Ronaldo: 🏴EPL✅ 🏴FA cup✅ 🏴Community shield✅ 🏴Carabao cup✅ 🇪🇸La Liga✅ 🇪🇸Copa del Rey✅ 🇪🇸Supercopa de Espana✅ 🇮🇹Serie A✅ 🇮🇹Coppa Italia✅ 🇮🇹Supercoppa✅ Golden boots(Including end of career): Messi: 🇪🇸Pichichi✅ 🇫🇷Ligue golden boot❌ 🇺🇸MLS golden boot✅ Ronaldo: 🏴EPL golden boot✅ 🇪🇸Pichichi✅ 🇮🇹Capocannoniere✅ 🇸🇦Saudi golden boot✅
Your true If it is about balon'dors then technically Michael platini is better then maradona cuz he has more than him And if it is about world cup then pelé is the greatest if not ronaldo So thats why you judge a player by his game And therefore ronaldo is the greatest ever to touch a football
Cristiano Ronaldo vs Lionel Messi: Who is better and is the GOAT in football? The stats head-to-head showdown? Messi and Ronaldo debate is just something everyone is curious about to learn today I will try my best to keep my studies to you and try to solve this debate today this will be a very long journey… Messi and Ronaldo both have dominated football for years at the same time in the same field they have shown their magic and hard work But let's start from the beginning our comparison will be based from 2007- present we will have categories of trophies goals and assists etc … All of this begin from 2007 till present Ronaldo has played for Manchester United real Madrid Juventus and currently place in al Nassr Ronaldo has won 5 ballon d'ors and has scored almost 900 goals Ronaldo in all his entire career has around 250 assists Ronaldo has won 4 golden boots which is top scorer of the year internationally Ronaldo has the record of most goals of a player internationally while has won the Euro Cup in 2016 Ronaldo has also been prove that one of the best club level players with the most club level goals also most champions league goals most champions league winning team real Madrid had Ronaldo at their prime time Ronaldo has won consecutive three champions league with real Madrid Ronaldo has most champions league assist even one more than Lionel Messi Ronaldo has insane headers and different skills he also at the time was a very good dribbler but after his injury in 2014 is dribbling skills have been decrease alot Ronaldo has been one of the best penalty taker of all time also one of the best free kick takers in this generation Ronaldo was in his prime in his early years like 2014 , 2008 also in 2017 Ronaldo play the very crucial year of his life Now let us come to Messi Messi from 2007 onwards has been the best player on the planet football has ever seen Messi has won 9 golden boots 8 ballon d'ors four of them were consecutive Messi has the record of most assist holder by a person Messi has won most la liga Messi has one of the most goals and assists champions league. He is also multiple time champions league winner. Messi has the best dribbling skills in the history of football Messi's one of the or arguably the best free kick taker in the world. Messi has also proved himself after winning the world cup in the last few years of his career and becoming the best leader the football has ever seen from last few decades Messi also once the record of most goals in a calendar year which is 91 117 goals + assist in a calendar year is also a very big record Messi has created fun fact Ronaldo has never reached even a hundred goals plus assist! Now when I have shown you all the facts these player have now I am gonna show you that how is one person in these 2 can be declared a goat Do Ronaldo and Messi both have performed on the same level Ronaldo has a bit loop holes while Messi has a little bit edge above Ronaldo Career wise Messi has proved himself to be a better goal contributor and even has very good goals stats while even Ronaldo completely striker focuses mostly and goals Messi is better than Ronaldo in both goals and assists ( no matter Ronaldo has more goals then Messi Messi has almost scored the same amount of goals as Ronaldo in lesser games) Messi has a record of most goals with a single club ( Barcelona) Internationally Messi has more access and Goldberg game then Ronaldo Messi has won the World Cup Olympics and these awards has been never won by Ronaldo Messi's dribbling skills has been shown by the world and has 3000 + dribbles which is still a record and Ronaldo can even come close to it. Messi can also play one man army as he played in 2019 with Barcelona and 2022 World Cup mostly contributed by Messi which eventually was won by Argentina in the captainship of Messi Ronaldo has never won a world cup in his career . Though Ronaldo has proved himself in more leaks than Messi but the many league Messi played he has won trophies with it. Messi has also shown his consistency to be better than Ronaldo as Messi even in 2008 was very good and is still winning ballon d'ors in 2022 Messi has won two player of the tournaments in the world cup while Ronaldo has never want a single yet Messi even in the opinion of greater players like Pele Maradona Ronaldinho Neymar junior etcetera has been accepted that he is better than Ronaldo. I think these stats clearly justify that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo as a scorer as a captain as a contributed as a successful trophy winning person and finally as a player Messi is the goat But we should know both of these players have made our generation very entertaining and that is why they both have their own skills above each other so we should not debate but respect them.
Who is better Messi or Ronaldo? Is there an objective way to decide? Ignore Charlie Fiore answer. That guy never kicked a ball in his life, not even a cat over a doorstep (only an expression in my country for someone who never played football-nobody kicked any animal). Messi is simply better player. It is about some objective elements like dribbling, technical ability, creation and playmaking, vision, assisting, goal scoring. At all of these Messi is better. He is best goalscorer in the world now (he has scored I think 48 goals so far this season in less game played than that number), he is best assist provider in La Liga also. He also is still in Champions league, if that was the case of some argument for Charlie (scored 2 goals vs Manchester United, got 10 grade for his match). Ronaldo is out of CL because my Juventus lost. Yes, I am Juventus fan since 1996. No, Juventus does not have best player in the world, Barcelona does. Dribbling? We all know Messi is far far far superior. If in doubts, just watch last match when he turned around Johnes. Then he nutmegs Fred and scores vs Manchester United. Better scorer? Yes of course. Do you people know the fact he has played 140 matches less in his career than Ronaldo and has almost identical number of goals? Some people forget Messi is almost 3 years younger than Ronaldo. He has played less matches and still scored 600+ goals same as Ronaldo. So yeah, best scorer. He is best scorer in the world last 3 years. Assist provider? Much better. Has more assists in entire career than Ronaldo (again, played 140 matches less, younger player, still more assists). Who has more trophies? Messi has 33 trophies or so, Ronaldo has 27. Lets forget stats. Who creates more? Messi is superior creator, dribbler, by far. Ronaldo is pacher, and he usually scores goals that are penalties, tap-ins and some jump because he has really good jump. He cannot dribble 4-5 players and score goal, he simply cant. Messi can. better free kick taker? Messi. In last 5 years he was superior and scored even 2 free kicks in one game, and one time he scored 3 matches in a row from a free kick. Ronaldo didnt score free kick for long time. Ronaldo has more freekicks goals, but has taken a lot more, and nowdays he simply cant compare to Messi because Messi got on another level with freekicks. Was Ronaldo ever named best player of World cup? No he wasnt. It was Messi, and Messi was named best player of one World cup. I want to mention that Portugal won Euro without Ronaldo in finals, so dont give too much attention to that title and Ronaldo contribution-he was horrible in 5 matches, 1 match he was excellent, and in finals he got injured and Portugal won without him (I should know I watched all matches). “Messi is more talented, but I think in overall talent Ronaldo is unbeatable”. This sentence has no sense. First he says Messi is more talented, then Ronaldo is more talented. It has no logic what this guy says. Probably was very bad at school too. Me, as Juve supporter, I always say messi is objectively superior player. But if you want subjective elements (opinions) then better take opinions of experts who think Messi is superior. Many many coaches, current players, ex players, think Messi is superior. I think they should know more than average Joe aka Charlie Fiore.
Fenomeno is great, most likely the highest potential of any player in history, but in terms of actual careers and what was achieved, only Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are truly eligible to win it
@@AntVaz7 Cristiano lol his finishing is so poor, takes way too many shots than players like R9, Zidane, Messi. Henry. The Madrid midfield,defense Cristiano played with is better than the ones R9, Zidane played in. I am not convinced Cristiano has good skill and IQ in football. Mainly physical ability.
@@markfish1113 He had everything except good team like Barcelona. Still took his team to 4 ucl finals and were champions. Won 2008 ucl and got 5. 6 times top Goalscorer in ucl. He holds almost all of the records of ucl. 860+ goals 270+ assists with 5 balon d'Or and 4 times golden boot winner. Portugal won 2 trophies in their history. Both were won by christiano who had massive impact in g+a of both........
@@SaadBinAlamgir3345 That 2016-2018 Madrid is strongest ever, stronger than Raul, Zidane, R9 Madrid, it has a more expensive team than Barca. A midfield of Modric and Kroos, Bale with young defense in their prime. Ronaldo is only interested to play in strongest teams. Al Nassr is also strongest team on paper. Its easy to statpad your goals when u are in strongest teams. After 2015 he is not so effective as impact player so he went to the striker position to wait for ball, the teams midfield carried him.
Two great players…I was once a Ronaldo fan when he at Real Madrid, but now a Messi fan…Having enjoyed the two of them for their footballing skills, this award would not how fans already feel about these two legends…However, given their talents, individual awards, and individual performances are available statistics, Messi is definitely right person to pick the award….It’s going to be a tough political affair given how fans feel about each of these players….
Talking like this means you are very young. When Messi was his prime, you were crawling so you are pardoned. If he was walking then he wouldn't have won all these awards@@helloooo732
All said and done the real GOAT is Messi. Not only he scores with un matching performances but his assists are for more superior as it creates room for goal when there is no room ,chance or possibility. Such is his superior creativity. These assist are so thought provoking that send down the spines of rivals an element of fear and uncertainty. Leave alone it's accuracy, precision and impossibility. His mere presence change the course of the game. He makes his team mates confident of their capabilities and motivated. More a team man too. His performances wrote in annals of footbal a new dimension. This genius of football is the most and the only fit person for super Ballon d or award, otherwise the considerations for selection will not be merit, genuine, creativity and excellence. I am sure every genius in the world will agree to this
@@nihalbhamrah4726 The difference in assists between Messi and CR is more vast than you think. CR has 258 in 1185 matches. Messi has 386 in 1048 matches. Even if CR's teammates did score, CR still wouldn't equal Messi in assists. Messi has played nearly 140 less matches. We must take that into consideration.
No one deserves it more than Messi. It will be a crime if the best player in the history of the sport doesn’t win it. Messi redefined football with the scariest prime in history.
Nah why award two messi is the greatest of all time there can only be one person on top and that is lional messi you can support ronaldo but u guys have to accept the fact that Ronaldo ain't on messi level now not telling that Ronaldo is not great but it is what it is you people must open your eyes and see the reality
@@vfamily4396thats means real Madrid is not in the nest league?? Bro his first hat trick was against real Madrid and check the players who were playing from real at that game
@@janak2675 Saying that Ronaldo isn't on Messi's level is a stupid take. Ronaldo was still better than Messi 5/13 of their ballon d'or wins, and if you give Ronaldo his deserved Ballon D'or in 2023 and take away Messi's stolen ballon d'ors in 2021 and 2020, it will make it 6/12 ballon d'ors won by ronaldo. Saying that Messi is in another league is stupid if Ronaldo beat messi around half of their years.
@@Masim443😂😂😂😂😂 nothing, as guardiola said messi worst sesons is the best seson for most players😂 Have you been watching football the past 15 16 years?
Messi's achievements are so far beyond Cruyff, Platini and Di Stefano, I mean the man has as many Ballon d'ors as all 3 together. And has achieved far more than any other player in history. Really can't see how it could he awarded to anyone else, not unless the competition wants to lose all credibility and seriousness.
@@Lucky-lo5dx de 1 je parle d arriver dans une equipe mal en point puis la relever pas arriver dans le barca prime et tu dis sa a cause du ballon d or que plusieurs personne dise que messi a voler a
To think of anyone else other than messi is a crime man. Most trophies, most individual awards, most ballon d'or (8), 6 golden boots, 2 golden balls, most iffhs playmaker awards, most assists, most chances created, most dribbles completed, most goals in europe, wc, most goals in a season, most g/a in a season, most goals in a year, most motm, g+a ratio with games played, most freekicks in moder era. Its just way beyond for anyone to even come close to what messi has done. And the fact that he did all this along Ronaldo is just absurd. Absolute GOAT.
@@m-men2056 messi had 50 goals and 18 assists in 54 matches, carried the team to a laliga and had a pretty good ucl campaign, 12 goals in 10 matches how can you say he didnt deserve it?. In 2021, messi had 43 goals and 14 assists while lewandowski had 56 goals (ONE IS A PLAYMAKER AND THE OTHER ONE IS A PROPER STRIKER), messi had more chances created, more big chances created, dribbles and he even had better defending stats than both benzema and lewandowski. Lewandowski had club sucess while messi had both (club and international). Now 2023, messi 35 goals and 30 assists in 51 goals, won ligue 1, finallisma, world cup, world cup golden ball. While haaland also had a great season, he got exposed in big games while messi excelled in them having one of the best wc campaign of all time. Imaging having both club and international succes, highest g/a in europe and people still say he doesnt deserve LMAO
This might be a hot take but I would for them both to receive it. Both gave performances that occur once in a life time. Both rivals that pushed each other to the greatest of heights. Messi might pull ahead but Ronaldo was there fighting right along side him to be one of the greatest players
ronaldo.goal recordsa are crazy.ronaldo isnt a playmaker is just a myth.ronaldo has 268 assits and is in top ten assisters.iniesta has 192 assits and xabvi has 240.ronaldo has 268.dont listen to people that say ronaldo isnt a playmaker they are lying to u.
Cristiano Ronaldo is the clear cut winner if we are being honest. Sure he don't have a World cup but his longevity is unmatched, he has dominated almost every stat in the toughest competition(UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE)in football. Most goals in the history of game to add also and on top of that he played and succeeded in many different leagues and now doing unmatched numbers at 38 years of age. Gave Portugal their first ever trophies and single-handedly help them to qualify for 5 World cups, 6 euros in a row while also having the most caps in international football and most goals too.
Clear cut winner? Really? Atleast admit that it would be a difficult decision between Messi and Ronaldo. Both have their arguments and reasons to win it.
1. Olympic gold 2. U20 Championship 3. World cup 4. 2 x WC golden balls 5. Most MOTM in history 6. Most international POTT in history 7. Most assists in history 8. Most ballon dors 9. Most trophies amassed 10. Winning most ballond ors, across three decades And the list goes on... these are some of the credentials that just set Messi apart from the rest... to be fair there has never been competition really...
@@Vengeance_X5 wdym "better stats" Better stats in leauge 1 compared to the La liga, Busdesliga and Premier leauge? All he did is one World Cup and the rest of the votes are just from his popularity
@@casual_racist" All he did it is one world cup" so we're gonna ignore he won the wc at 35? All Haaland does is score tap ins and pens. Kdb is clear imo but stats say Haaland > Kdb. Messi's achievement= Haaland's + he's the world cup winner with a better g+a
I UNDERSTAND CHILDREN ARE NOT MATURE MINDED ESPECIALLY LITTLE BOYS THEY CAN BE MANIPULATED VERY EASY BY BIG ABDOS WHICH JUMPS HIGH JUST AFTER A FLAT TAP IN OR A HEAD GOAL OR WHEN A DEFENDER MAKE A MISTAKE.
@@wesselvankoeverden9842 Please stop eating dog food, CR7 is nowhere near Pele, Maradona, R9 and even Zidane in individual performances, CR7 doesn't make the list of top 50 playmakers and you comparing him with Messi the greatest playmaker in football history, apart from scoring tapins and penalties what else can CR7 do? CR7 pass accuracy is lacking, Messi goalscoring ratio is also better. Messi is a born genius.
@@aafootballtipstv4474Judging by this comment you are either underaged or don't watch cr7 enough. The only reason he scores tapins and pens is due to the fact that he had an injury in 2014, watch him before that and then speak pls
A striker position. absolutely. but Messi's magic with the ball is also a deadly combination. But we're talking about the most complete player not just a pushing the ball. @@nihalbhamrah4726
If ronaldo wins it people will say ronaldo is officially better but if messi wins they will say rigged (even though stats this time definitely say messi is better )🙄😐😑😑.
Penaldo and Tapinaldo doesn't deserve to win a Super Balon D'or even if he has more goals. Messi is 2 years younger and would outscore him despite not being a striker when they both retire. Messi is the GOAT and deserves the Super Balon D'or.
After winning the world cup 2022 in Quatar is the best candidate of this award,there is no other prayer who achieved more like hime in this generation because he won every thing He prays for
Di Stefano won with 1 ballon d'or less than Cruijff and Platini. But 3 ballon d'ors is just too much difference, not to mention everything else (WC, 2 WC Golden Balls, 2 Laureus for Sportsman of the year, 2 Golden Boots, 5 IFFHS World's Best Playmaker awards and IFFHS Best Playmaker from 2006 to 2022 while Ronaldo isn't a playmaker at all, etc…etc…) Messi is the greatest player of all time, the second greatest player of all time would be the difference between Messi and Ronaldo.
@@yelielvaznetovork3216 why cause he has all the records and won most awards and everything? Only thing Ronaldo will be ahead of him is in goals, while playing 160 more matches, only ahead of him with 40 goals.
Past 3 decades balon dor winner: 2000s-- Messi 2009 2010s-- Messi 2010,11,12,15,19 2020s-- Messi 2021,2023 -qualified Messi deserve super balondor❤ Most golden Boot holder❤
@@ethantasti2521You can't really compare the levels. World Cup today is very much difficult, plus the prestige. In pelé times it wasn't a very important trophie. And even Pelé played only a game in his first WC, his second WC he wasn't the MVP. His only legit worldcup was his third. For me, Pelé only has 1 WC.
If they will consider out of europe its would be Messi otherwise they will give it to CR7. Because messi isn't european. he is from south america and played international career from argentina. Whatever he achieved on international games is from argentina team rather than any europrean country. But it doesn't matter if messi doesn't get super ballon do'r, he will be GOAT in football history. He won all the trophies. Messi is advanced version of Maradona. he carried forward his legacy. 4 UCL, 1 olypic gold, 1 fifa wc anf 8 ballon do'r. no one have this kind of achievement in the football history who have achieved everything. he will be considered above maradona and pele.
Honestly I think the population most skewed towards either is the Middle-East to Ronaldo. He seems waaaaaay more popular there than Messi. Europe is pretty much 50/50 from what I understand as a Dutchman.
Messi is rly good, but cr7 deserves it either way tbh, ppl only look at stats and the way messi plays, but cr7 literally played harder leagues and competition than messi all his life, also played for weaker teams than messi
Super Ballon d´Or is awarded to the best player of the past 30 years Messi was the only winner of the Ballon d'Or for 3 decades from 2009 to 2023 and he is the Goat he has practically all the records, titles and awards that exist in that sport.
if it does not depend on the amount of ballon dor's one has, cristiano can win it fosure. he has been so consistent since 2004 and has never ranked below the sixth place in ballon dor since 18 years. A person will ballon dor points almost equal to someone who has three more than him, forsure deserves it
@@TanmayPuhan10 you dont understand clearly. ronaldo has almost equal ballon dors to messi, like bro has equal points to someone with 3 more ballon dors, which means, both of them equally deserve 8 ballon dors, it was just that messi was just ahead a few points in all of the cases he won.
Don't say they are rivals... Only Ronaldo boasts himself as the best and no one is not greater than him..... But messi the greatest footballer and the finest human being never criticised any players....what a beautiful nature...that's called sportsmanship....so we the football fans always loves and admires king leo❤❤❤
The fact that an Argentina was always on the top spot regardless of what decade should be enough proof that Argentina is the best football nation and Messi is the one and only to deserve the super balon d'or Alfredo di stefano is Argentine same as Maradona and Messi. You just cannot compete with the ultimate football nation🇦🇷
Brazil got five. Italy and German both got 4. Argentina 3 (including 1 that is rigged). DiStefano believed that Pele is better than Maradona. Maradona grew up idolizing rom Brazillian Rivelino. Messi grew up learning from Fat Ronaldo. Messi is the best footballer in my lifetime, but best football nation? I think Argentina need 4 more WC to claim that spot.
Pele himself said that di Stefano was better than himself Don´t talk about rigged Maradona and Pele won a WC to a hand that the referee didn't see Hand of god and elbow on the face@@Account.for.Comment
Messi won in ballon d´or (8>7), golden boot (6>5), world cup golden ball (2>1), leagues (12> 6), UCL/libertators (4>2), tittles (44>37) the only thing that Pele won is in world cup tittles LOL@@halftendedifiebf1741
@@Account.for.Comment Yeah best football nation is probably Brazil, with a shoutout to Argentina, Germany, Italy and in my opinion the Netherlands for their total football. We'll throw the English a bone for inventing the bloody sport.
Cristiano Ronaldo if he scores his 1000th goal........his UCL records are unmatched, all time top scorer in every format of football.....ballon dor's are meant to be given on the basis of individual performance...but in recent years we have seen it differently.....like 2019,21,23.......it's like a media show now.....whoever they like they vote....overthrowing the deserved winner.....but 1000 goals....it's just remarkable ......and very impossible to ears.......Cristiano has 873 goals now.....he will play until 41.....so he had the most chance of achieveing the 1000 goal record........so hope for best
Who cares about his rigged UCLs 😂 the fact is that his performance in the last WC was shit, and at the same WC Messi won, so it will have huge value. More goals are irrelevant when he has been playing longer than Messi. Messi holds countless individual records, more than CR7.
@@shivanshbisht9439 WC wasn’t rigged lol, the UCLs in 2016 and 2017 were 100% rigged though with how refs saved Madrid. Ronaldo scored 2 offside goals in 2017. Yeah Barca is awful right now unfortunately, hope things get better
I mean how can anyone other than Messi win it? Don't forget Coaches and players were already calling him the Greatest of All Time IN 2012, he somehow got even better after that, won everything with Argentina, became possibly the best passer of all time + Top 5 FK takers of all time😅
Okayyy Let's be honest To Haters and plastic fans of FOOTBALL They said: "It's not a senior career trophy. Show us the senior level world cup trophy." Messi won the Olympic Gold in 2008: They said: "Olympic tournament isn't organised by FIFA. It's not a FIFA tournament." Messi lost World Cup final in 2014. No one said Messi is a FIFA boy. No one said it's scripted. Everyone trolled his world cup final lost moments. Messi lost 2007, 2015, 2016 Copa America finals. No one showed sympathy. Rather all of them criticised him for an senior career internationaltrophy. Everyone made him club legend, though he was the Argentina's leading all time top scorer. Later, Messi won Copa America in 2021. Suddenly, that international trophy (Copa America) became a Micky Mouse trophy. The trophy lost its value suddenly. They tried to show that European champions are stronger. Messi won the Finalissima in 2022. Messi's Argentina beat European champions Italy. They started saying "Italy didn't qualify for world cup. It's not a strong team. European strong teams are France, Netherlands, Belgium bla bla bla..." Finally Messi won the world cup 2022. Messi's Argentina beat European Giants Netherlands in Quarter finals, Croatia in Semi finals, France in Finals. They are now saying "Messi is a FIFA boy, everything is scripted. Messi buys everything." Where was FIFA when Messi lost 3 consecutive finals? Where was FIFA when Messi took retirement from football? Where was FIFA when France got 2 penalties in the world cup final? You are the same guy who trolled Olympic gold medal winning campaign, because it was not a directly FIFA organised tournament. When Messi took retirement from football ? Where was FIFA when France got 2 penalties in the world cup final? You are the same guy who trolled Olympic gold medal winning campaign, because it was not a directly FIFA organised tournament. You are the same guy who trolled Messi for winning FIFA Youth World Cup in 2005. Now Messi won FIFA organised Senior career world cup. But you guys making new theory. Actually I am talking about the most shameless fan base in the history of football. You guys pollutes football. Stop supporting it. It's not your GAME. 😌👉☮️🌎❤️👈👏👏👏👏👏
The Messi gatekeepers are doing quite the opposite arguing against Ronaldo. All your whining is doing is making the rest of us love Ronaldo even more. So keep yapping. 1000 goals will speak for itself.
Messi was lucky to have be born in a stronger national team and be with barcelona almost all his career. Ronaldo winning that much across 3 different clubs and always having the media and fifa against him is just more impressive
Cant believe people really wants to make arguments about this. Doesn't matter who is your personal favourite or best player, there is only one dude that is beyond his very own ludicrous stats. Messi is the best, most complete on his role, most condecorated and regular player this sport has ever seen.
Although Ronaldo was good in his prime, it wasnt very long whilst Messi's was longer with mor bangers and better goals (Beside Ronaldo's Bicycle kick). I personally think Messi should win. :)
Instead choosing between the two it would be great to announce both of them as super ballon d or winners it would be wonderful because those two guys did something others can't do for almost two decades
@@ganapatithapa3012 Messi was clear ever since he won the world cup, plus him having more than ronaldo in basically every single award makes it pretty clear to me.
messi will get it, we all know the drill... guy scored 6 penalties 2 years ago and gets "the best" award with only having a goal this season.... when the true winner won virtually every possible big team and single player award this year while being his team's best player Yeh man, all of CR7's inhumane conquers across all the leagues in europe, the biggest competition achievments (champs league) will never be anything to messis' decade of champions league humilliations and for scoring 6 penalties on a rigged tournament, with rigged unmerited individual awards while playing for teams that buy refs since he started his professional career lol Messi is a great player, for sure a top 10 in history when he was amazing under pep... everything after that is just inflating an overvalued player that barely walked all of his matches and got excessively inflated by the media/fifa... Kinda sad how the biggest lie of all time in football history is also one of its best players to ever play the sport
While I agree with the best award being undeserved, you need to relax. I can smell the tears from here. Messi dint score 6 penalties at the world cup, Ronaldo won his champions leagues in a club that both had and has won more without him and conquered Europe while playing for the biggest team in each league. Saying Messi is nothing but a top 10 player is genuinly just disrespectful 😂
@@lukasst2597 well man, with paid refs i can be as good as pele lol, he was truly great a long time ago, ott he's extremely overrated (good but not as good as media portrays him)
@@eamichelenaPenaldo will win super ballon d'or for robbing ucls with offside goals, robbing Ribery in 2013 and winning euros by sitting on the bench 😂
Messi is a great great and magestic player but Ronaldo has nothing more to prove, with what he has done in the past he can surely be titled the GOAT. Messi may have more Ballon d'ors but most of them are unfair and legally not his. A world cup makes a difference between both but Messi had a far better team than Ronaldo with Portugal. He has went to different leagues and countries and dominated them. Not to mention that he is dominating at present at the age of 38. He is a complete player.
THE ballon d'or is decided by votes and opinions, Ronaldo won his by opinions and Messi won his by opinions too.. Messi deserve every single trophy he has, don't say shit that you just know nothing about... Ronaldo went to every league and became their top scorer bcos of his playing style,he most times only stays in front to get the goal,but Messi going to psg was his biggest mistake.. Because,their style of play is different from Messi's.. Messi spent more than a decade in Barcelona and got used to that style of play of Barca,so you don't expect him in one season or two to change his style of playing to psg own..He did well after some seasons tho,cos he drops back alot... And Messi having a better team than Ronaldo,how?...Benaldo Silva, Fernandez,Leao,and others..So those people are not class players,rated more than Messi teammates.. And he is just a complete goal scorer,he is only complete in goal scoring aspect...Ok?.. Messi can use his right and left foot with over 100 goals with right and over 500 with left,and just 20plus with ahead..He is a complete goal scorer, playmaker,passer and the best dribbler.. Ronaldo doesn't have the quality of a great playmaker,passer and not even rated top 5 in best dribbler of all time.. Messi is the greatest player of all time..He is will the super ballon d'or,mark my word!!!
@@karelaking9445 Shut up Messi fan and don't talk trash about me alright. You don't know nothing about Football, I was just saying the reality but you started to favour Messi cause you are a Messi fan. You know, it is people like you who start comparing the GOATs while they don't even care.
First of all, the speculations are false according to France Football. They do not have any plans to bring the Super Ballon D’or again. Secondly, if it does get awarded a second time, it will once again be awarded to an Argentine just like the first time, don’t worry.
@@murphy1761France is European right?? yess they are.. so if they say they wanna leave it for only Europeans no issues there man!!! But if they change the rule it's still on them... it all seems fair!
come on we all know Messi gonna win this...his records and achievments are unmatched now not only for 30 years for the rest of history...he is the most decorated player with 45+ trophies
Messi is a dwarf on growth hormones idk how was even allowed to play since it’s the strongest Doping that exist. Imagine giving these hormones to Ronaldo to boost performance.
@@LX44er lol 😂those hormones are growth hormones not super strength hormones and those are eligible even ronaldo can take it..its of no use..cuz messi is pure talent
@@bharadwajbarik5214 so you clearly dont Know what growth Hormons do, They Boost You’r strength Speed, Performance musxles etc. Ask You’r doctor Ur delusional, Messi will be the biggest Fraud Football ever seen
@@bharadwajbarik5214 messi doesnt deserve to win, he may have better stats but the leagues both played for, the teams both played for favours cr7, and euros > copa america
Only Champions League, they face different level of competition during most of the games for their NTs, even now Ronaldo has a lot of chances to statpad against weak opponents during qualifiers (Portugal scored 32 (!) goals during current qualifier, 9 of those were Ronaldo's)
127 goal in 203 Match Cristiano and he has advantage against 90-100 FIFA Ranking and most advantage as Nation League competition and Eurp Cup Qualifications. 106 Goal in 176 match Messi and he has 50% against CONMEBOL team national 28 FIFA Ranking if only Bolivia 78 Ranking of FIFA, Copa America Tournament nothing Qualifications and Argentina team national nothing CONMEBOL Nation League. Messi against Europe team has 20%goals and 30% FIFA Match Day friendly.
Messi's international career is way better than Ronaldos so I don't understand your argument. The only thing that Ronaldo has is the ucl. Messi is better everywhere and is overall clearly the better player. It's not even a debate
@@MESS1VSR9NALDO Speak english. Messi's international career is way better and that's a fact. CR7 shouldn't even be in the conversation for winning the super Ballon d'Or bcs Messi is clearly the best player of the last 30 years
Messi will not win it, Ronaldo will get it, he always does what he can to make himself better, messi might have 8 ballon d'ors but we all know they gave it to him cause media just loves to D ride on messi. Ronaldo isn't stopping, he continues to be the best despite his age
Messi after world cup and 2 golden balls and 8 ballondor ,he can not be compared with any one...to think of any one than messi would be injustice with football itself
Fact bro❤
Facts. Messi is the only player in history to win a Ballon d'or in 3 different decades. This will never be repeated.
@@christosnikitakis6675 and with 3different clubs😉✌️
Messi has 7 ballon d'ors
@@PessiXPenaldo34 8will come in 3 days
As a fan of Ronaldo, I would not really care who wins this award. I'm just glad that I witnessed this era
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Early Excuse😂
@Gametion_Beast did messi deserve the fifa best award? honestly?
@Gametion_Beast who cares btch ronaldo 1000 goals , messi nothing without xavie iniste he did 0 in his career need fifa now
@Gametion_Beast you all are the reason why football is made fun of
Just let people enjoy the game
"messi will not win the ballon dor"
the video: messi will win the ballon dor
Lol
Clickbait at its finest
he said he will not win the super ballon dor not the ballon dor
He did win it lol he has 8 now with maybe the super would be 9 😅
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As a ronaldo fan, He has been my idol, his way of playing has pushed me through hard times. I would really like to see him win it. But i wont be suprised if messi wins it, he is one of if not the greatest player to ever play football, I respect him as well as cristiano, it will be sad for me if cristiano doesnt win it for sure, but I understand if messi does, he redifined the game with his dribbiling, shooting, passing, and led a barcelona team right to the very top, Respect for both of them, they are both the goats
Exactly my opinion word to word
I know it would be unlikely but lowkey it would be really poetic if they somehow twisted the rules and gave each the super ballon'dor
W fan
i agree totally as a cr7 fan
@@crem44, that would be the most ideal thing to do,, i am more of a messi fan than ronaldo, but i love ronaldo as well.... These two have redifined the game of football....
Players come and go, but i dont think anyone can replicate what these two have done on the football pitch....
My only dream was to watch them both play together for the same team....
Just imagine how dope that would be....
If Messi doesn’t win the Super balloon D’or it doesn’t matter as he proven at the highest level. Messi is the ultimate GOAT.
It does bro you know what super means
@@killerwee8969But we know Messi will be the undisputed winner
Agreed
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Lionel Messi the most decorated footballer in football history he is the only worthy air to such a award ronaldo was a sensational player and worked hard for the achievements in his career but Messi has won and done far too much to not receive the award. The fact he has most balondor and golden boots just leverages him even closer to getting it
Yeah and 7 and 8 rigged Ballon D'or 😂
@@killerwee8969cry more pendu fan 😢
@@killerwee8969"winners celebrate, loosers explain"
-random kid on yt shorts
Fact is Messi fans knows very well that his a FIFA boy who was part of the corruption made by FC Barcelona we don't care if people will say Ronaldo fan must keep crying atleast he never played for a team that was Once involved in a corruption
@@seloanepercy4317 ronaldo has played for real they are involved in controversy, in the 3ucls campaigns ronaldo scored 18 offside goals even one against Bayern on the ucl final, not 1 was disallowed.
Bro Anthony has more prem goals than both ronaldo and messi combined in 2024. He has lost fewer games against Pele and Maradona than messi and ronaldo lost games in their careers. He is the only one right now at a European club. He is also still in the ucl.
You cannot argue that, he is truly a phenomenon never seen before and will never be seen again, it's only right that he wins it
finaly a antony comment
@SayantanPaul35 calm down, if u don't want me here then go away, I commented this 2 months ago and you are getting angry
Go to 2022-2007 Ronaldo and messi
@@Kartzilla19 lol ik, I meant it as a joke
@@CR7-bu9gl o
Imagine Harry Maguire wins it 💀
Maguire needs to win
Then anyone who says "it's rigged" has no right to live.
@@NanobanaKinako yea
@@NanobanaKinakoit is tho messi player of the year 2023😂😂😂
Harry maguire will win at his grave (erik ten ha)
Cristiano Ronaldo hopes the Super Ballon d'Or judging criteria will not change. In the football community throughout Europe and the world, it is clear that only Lionel Messi is worthy of receiving it.
for?@beastfootball1782
Robalod😂😂😂😂
panado😂
He will retire in 2025 or 6 or 7
If they change the rules, they’ll say it’s rigged😭😭🤦🏾♂️
What Ronaldo needs to do to reach Messi level:
1 WC(1)
2 WC golden balls(2)
2 golden boots(3)
1 world record(4)
5 Playmaker awards(5)
3 laureus awards(6)
178 assists(7)
216 MOTM(8)
1 golden boy(9)
1 FIFA the best(10)
6 WC KO goals(11)
5 WC KO assists(12)
1 treble(13)
1 sextuple(14)
9 trophies(15)
11 assists(16)
2 freekick goals(17)
4 domestic cups(18)
4 league titles(19)
2 WC final goals(20)
Things that he needs to do:20
What Messi needs to do to reach Ronaldo's level:
40 UCL records(1)
2 UCL assists(2)
40 goals(3)
1 golden foot(4)
1 Puskas award(5)
5 Globe soccer awards(6)
1 UEFA the best(7)
6 POTM awards(8)
1 FIFA special(9)
1 UCL golden boot(10)
1 Club WC(11)
2 UCL(12)
1 Player of the century(13)
18 UCL KO goals(14)
3 UCL KO assists(15)
1 Euros/Copa America goal(16)
121 headers(17)
53 Penalty goals(18)
2 UCL final goals(19)
5 hattricks(20)
88 match wins in total career(21)
⚠️Matches won in total in their whole career and matches won against each other are two different things.
Things that he needs to do:21
This is why CR7 deserves super ballon d'or:
Header:CR7
Assists:Messi
G+A:Messi
Records:Messi
Goals:CR7
UCL goals:CR7
UCL assists:CR7
UCL records:CR7
Trophies:Messi
Awards:Messi
Prime:CR7 (I'll explain later why)
IQ:Messi
Mentality:CR7
Shooting:CR7
Pace:CR7
Stamina:CR7
Speed:CR7
Weak foot:CR7
Playmaking:Messi
Dribbling:Messi
Skills:Messi
Physique:CR7
Defending:Messi
WC goals:Messi
WC assists:Messi
International(stats):CR7
International(trophies):Messi
WC records:Messi
Acrobatics:CR7(This includes bycicle kicks, Volleys, ect..)
WC stats:Messi
UCL stats:CR7
2004:CR7
2005:CR7
2006:CR7
2007:CR7
2008:CR7
2009:Messi
2010:Messi
2011:Messi
2012:Messi
2013:CR7
2014:CR7
2015:Messi
2016:CR7
2017:CR7
2018:CR7
2019:Messi
2020:CR7
2021:Messi
2022:Messi
2023:CR7
2024:CR7
Ballon d'or nominations:Messi
Ballon d'or points:Messi
Ballon d'or votes:Messi
Goal Ratio:Messi
Hattricks:CR7
Direct confrontations:Messi
Assist ratio:Messi
Clutch:Ronaldo
UCL KO goals:CR7
WC KO goals:Messi
UCL finals:CR7
WC finals won:Messi
Finals won against each other:Ronaldo
WC KO assists:Messi
UCL KO assists:CR7
35-32 CR7 wins.
Why is prime CR7 better than Prime Messi?
Messi fans🗣️Ronaldo shouldn't have won ballon d'or 2013 Ribery won more trophies than him the only thing CR7 did was score goals.
Ok then..
Ronaldo 2008:
Ballon d'or
UCL
UEFA supercup
UEFA men's best player
FIFA men's best player
PFA young player of the year
PFA player of the year
EPL golden boot
Golden boot
EPL race award
EPL POTY
UCL MOTM
Club WC
World footballer of the year
Community shield
EPL league title.
All of it in prime EPL.
49 Games
42 goals
12 assists
A literal MIDFIELDER.
Messi 2012:
Club WC
Golden boot
Ballon d'or
91 goals in a year is impressive, but since you said Ribery deserved the Ballon d'or cus of his trophies, Haaland deserved 2023 Ballon d'or, Milito deserved 2010 ballon d'or, Van dijk deserved 2019 ballon d'or..
I know my goat, but if you think Messi's the goat then that's fine.
Now let's check Messi 2009 since 2012 isn't his real prime:
Copa del Rey
Supercopa
La Liga
Club WC
UCL
UEFA Supercup
Ballon d'or
World Soccer POTY
FIFA world best player of the year
La Liga Pichichi(if i remember correctly).
UCL MOTM
Tell me if I missed anything!
Messi prime 2015? Let's check if it better than CR7's:
La Liga title
UCL
Copa del Rey
Golden boot
La Liga Pichichi
Ballon d'or.
FIFA men's best player
UEFA men's best player(I think)
UCL MOTM
UCL top scorer(I think)?
Tell me if I missed anything!
It's good, but still less than CR7.
2019?
La Liga title
Ballon d'or
FIFA men's best player
La Liga Pichichi
"Carried Barca" Ronaldo carried Portugal yet he gets 0 recognition for Portugal's 2 trophies.
Overall Ronaldo 2008 better than all of them. And yes 2013 wasn't his best season, however Ribery did nothing with individual awards he only won team trophies. And why would Messi be 2nd? Besides,even if he robbed 2013, Messi and Ronaldo would have the same amount of ballon dors.
Portugal before CR7:
1 WC bronze medal
Portugal after CR7:
1 WC bronze medal
1 Euros
1 UEFA nations league.
Proving Ronaldo deserved 2013 ballon d'or:
Messi and Ribery combined:68 goals
Ronaldo:69 goals
Ronaldo:
69 goals
11 assists
FIFA ballon d'or
More MOTM than Messi and Ribery combined
More POTM if I remember also
Also won FIFA ballon d'or
2nd in Golden boot
Di Stefano award
And Most decisive player of La Liga
"Ribery won the treble!"
Haaland should have won in 2023,Lewandowski in 2021, Van Dijk in 2019,no?
Also, why was Messi 2nd then?
Also Ronaldo won becuz his team was trash and he was performing so well under such a bad team..
Ronaldo vs Ribery 2013
Goals:CR7
Assists:Ribery
G/A:CR7
UCL stats:CR7
Trophies:Ribery
MOTM:Ronaldo
POTM:Ronaldo
Skills:Ronaldo
Dribbling:Ribery
Passing:Ribery.
Ronaldo smashes Ribery.
Ribery stat 2012/13(Source:Google):
56 games
26 goals
27 assists
Playing in Bundesliga with strongest team.
Cr7 stats 2013:
69 goals
Golden boot shared with Suarez.
UCL top scorer.
IFFHS best scorer in the first division.
La Liga player of the month.
16 assists
Playing in La Liga
Most decisive player of LA Liga.
Also record for scoring at least 1 goal in every match.
"You didnt prove anything for 2013!"
For me ballon d'or winner means you either get a record or win trophies. Ronaldo got a record and won 3 individual awards(di Stefano award, FIFA ballon d'or and most decisive player of La Liga),so he deserved it.
Also why was messi 2nd?
Ronaldo vs Messi league wise(midway career):
Messi:
🇪🇸La Liga✅
🇪🇸Copa del Rey✅
🇪🇸Supercopa de Espana✅
🇫🇷Ligue 1✅
🇫🇷Supercoupe de France ✅
🇫🇷Coupe de France❌
Ronaldo:
🏴EPL✅
🏴FA cup✅
🏴Community shield✅
🏴Carabao cup✅
🇪🇸La Liga✅
🇪🇸Copa del Rey✅
🇪🇸Supercopa de Espana✅
🇮🇹Serie A✅
🇮🇹Coppa Italia✅
🇮🇹Supercoppa✅
Golden boots(Including end of career):
Messi:
🇪🇸Pichichi✅
🇫🇷Ligue golden boot❌
🇺🇸MLS golden boot✅
Ronaldo:
🏴EPL golden boot✅
🇪🇸Pichichi✅
🇮🇹Capocannoniere✅
🇸🇦Saudi golden boot✅
Dumbo globe soccer and player of the century is tok tok irrelevant award lol
Your true
If it is about balon'dors then technically Michael platini is better then maradona cuz he has more than him
And if it is about world cup then pelé is the greatest if not ronaldo
So thats why you judge a player by his game
And therefore ronaldo is the greatest ever to touch a football
@@SIMON-GHOST-911 ITS ABOUT ALL THINGS WC BALLON DOR GOLDEN BOOTS UCLS PLAYMAKING GOALS ASSISTS MESSI IS THE GOAT FOR THIS REASON
Cristiano Ronaldo vs Lionel Messi: Who is better and is the GOAT in football? The stats head-to-head showdown?
Messi and Ronaldo debate is just something everyone is curious about to learn today I will try my best to keep my studies to you and try to solve this debate today this will be a very long journey…
Messi and Ronaldo both have dominated football for years at the same time in the same field they have shown their magic and hard work
But let's start from the beginning our comparison will be based from 2007- present we will have categories of trophies goals and assists etc …
All of this begin from 2007 till present Ronaldo has played for Manchester United real Madrid Juventus and currently place in al Nassr Ronaldo has won 5 ballon d'ors and has scored almost 900 goals Ronaldo in all his entire career has around 250 assists Ronaldo has won 4 golden boots which is top scorer of the year internationally Ronaldo has the record of most goals of a player internationally while has won the Euro Cup in 2016 Ronaldo has also been prove that one of the best club level players with the most club level goals also most champions league goals most champions league winning team real Madrid had Ronaldo at their prime time Ronaldo has won consecutive three champions league with real Madrid Ronaldo has most champions league assist even one more than Lionel Messi Ronaldo has insane headers and different skills he also at the time was a very good dribbler but after his injury in 2014 is dribbling skills have been decrease alot Ronaldo has been one of the best penalty taker of all time also one of the best free kick takers in this generation Ronaldo was in his prime in his early years like 2014 , 2008 also in 2017 Ronaldo play the very crucial year of his life
Now let us come to Messi
Messi from 2007 onwards has been the best player on the planet football has ever seen Messi has won 9 golden boots 8 ballon d'ors four of them were consecutive Messi has the record of most assist holder by a person Messi has won most la liga Messi has one of the most goals and assists champions league. He is also multiple time champions league winner. Messi has the best dribbling skills in the history of football Messi's one of the or arguably the best free kick taker in the world. Messi has also proved himself after winning the world cup in the last few years of his career and becoming the best leader the football has ever seen from last few decades Messi also once the record of most goals in a calendar year which is 91 117 goals + assist in a calendar year is also a very big record Messi has created fun fact Ronaldo has never reached even a hundred goals plus assist!
Now when I have shown you all the facts these player have now I am gonna show you that how is one person in these 2 can be declared a goat
Do Ronaldo and Messi both have performed on the same level Ronaldo has a bit loop holes while Messi has a little bit edge above Ronaldo
Career wise Messi has proved himself to be a better goal contributor and even has very good goals stats while even Ronaldo completely striker focuses mostly and goals Messi is better than Ronaldo in both goals and assists ( no matter Ronaldo has more goals then Messi Messi has almost scored the same amount of goals as Ronaldo in lesser games)
Messi has a record of most goals with a single club ( Barcelona)
Internationally Messi has more access and Goldberg game then Ronaldo Messi has won the World Cup Olympics and these awards has been never won by Ronaldo
Messi's dribbling skills has been shown by the world and has 3000 + dribbles which is still a record and Ronaldo can even come close to it.
Messi can also play one man army as he played in 2019 with Barcelona and 2022 World Cup mostly contributed by Messi which eventually was won by Argentina in the captainship of Messi Ronaldo has never won a world cup in his career .
Though Ronaldo has proved himself in more leaks than Messi but the many league Messi played he has won trophies with it.
Messi has also shown his consistency to be better than Ronaldo as Messi even in 2008 was very good and is still winning ballon d'ors in 2022
Messi has won two player of the tournaments in the world cup while Ronaldo has never want a single yet
Messi even in the opinion of greater players like Pele Maradona Ronaldinho Neymar junior etcetera has been accepted that he is better than Ronaldo.
I think these stats clearly justify that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo as a scorer as a captain as a contributed as a successful trophy winning person and finally as a player Messi is the goat
But we should know both of these players have made our generation very entertaining and that is why they both have their own skills above each other so we should not debate but respect them.
Who is better Messi or Ronaldo? Is there an objective way to decide?
Ignore Charlie Fiore answer. That guy never kicked a ball in his life, not even a cat over a doorstep (only an expression in my country for someone who never played football-nobody kicked any animal). Messi is simply better player. It is about some objective elements like dribbling, technical ability, creation and playmaking, vision, assisting, goal scoring. At all of these Messi is better. He is best goalscorer in the world now (he has scored I think 48 goals so far this season in less game played than that number), he is best assist provider in La Liga also. He also is still in Champions league, if that was the case of some argument for Charlie (scored 2 goals vs Manchester United, got 10 grade for his match). Ronaldo is out of CL because my Juventus lost. Yes, I am Juventus fan since 1996. No, Juventus does not have best player in the world, Barcelona does. Dribbling? We all know Messi is far far far superior. If in doubts, just watch last match when he turned around Johnes. Then he nutmegs Fred and scores vs Manchester United. Better scorer? Yes of course. Do you people know the fact he has played 140 matches less in his career than Ronaldo and has almost identical number of goals? Some people forget Messi is almost 3 years younger than Ronaldo. He has played less matches and still scored 600+ goals same as Ronaldo. So yeah, best scorer. He is best scorer in the world last 3 years. Assist provider? Much better. Has more assists in entire career than Ronaldo (again, played 140 matches less, younger player, still more assists). Who has more trophies? Messi has 33 trophies or so, Ronaldo has 27. Lets forget stats. Who creates more? Messi is superior creator, dribbler, by far. Ronaldo is pacher, and he usually scores goals that are penalties, tap-ins and some jump because he has really good jump. He cannot dribble 4-5 players and score goal, he simply cant. Messi can. better free kick taker? Messi. In last 5 years he was superior and scored even 2 free kicks in one game, and one time he scored 3 matches in a row from a free kick. Ronaldo didnt score free kick for long time. Ronaldo has more freekicks goals, but has taken a lot more, and nowdays he simply cant compare to Messi because Messi got on another level with freekicks. Was Ronaldo ever named best player of World cup? No he wasnt. It was Messi, and Messi was named best player of one World cup. I want to mention that Portugal won Euro without Ronaldo in finals, so dont give too much attention to that title and Ronaldo contribution-he was horrible in 5 matches, 1 match he was excellent, and in finals he got injured and Portugal won without him (I should know I watched all matches). “Messi is more talented, but I think in overall talent Ronaldo is unbeatable”. This sentence has no sense. First he says Messi is more talented, then Ronaldo is more talented. It has no logic what this guy says. Probably was very bad at school too. Me, as Juve supporter, I always say messi is objectively superior player. But if you want subjective elements (opinions) then better take opinions of experts who think Messi is superior. Many many coaches, current players, ex players, think Messi is superior. I think they should know more than average Joe aka Charlie Fiore.
That was because platini and cruyff didn't play in the same generation as Di stefano did.
Its not really a question here.
Generation were u play doesn't matter that much unless u r trying to factor in recency bias
Messi deserve it but myquestion that fifa is not offering such an awards such as France football
Messi is winning it duh.
His only competition is Fenomeno and to include him they have to chang the old rules.
Fenomeno is great, most likely the highest potential of any player in history, but in terms of actual careers and what was achieved, only Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are truly eligible to win it
@@AntVaz7 Cristiano lol his finishing is so poor, takes way too many shots than players like R9, Zidane, Messi. Henry. The Madrid midfield,defense Cristiano played with is better than the ones R9, Zidane played in. I am not convinced Cristiano has good skill and IQ in football. Mainly physical ability.
@@markfish1113
He had everything except good team like Barcelona. Still took his team to 4 ucl finals and were champions.
Won 2008 ucl and got 5.
6 times top Goalscorer in ucl. He holds almost all of the records of ucl.
860+ goals 270+ assists with 5 balon d'Or and 4 times golden boot winner.
Portugal won 2 trophies in their history. Both were won by christiano who had massive impact in g+a of both........
@@SaadBinAlamgir3345 That 2016-2018 Madrid is strongest ever, stronger than Raul, Zidane, R9 Madrid, it has a more expensive team than Barca. A midfield of Modric and Kroos, Bale with young defense in their prime. Ronaldo is only interested to play in strongest teams. Al Nassr is also strongest team on paper. Its easy to statpad your goals when u are in strongest teams. After 2015 he is not so effective as impact player so he went to the striker position to wait for ball, the teams midfield carried him.
@@markfish1113 that just proves how little you know about football.
Two great players…I was once a Ronaldo fan when he at Real Madrid, but now a Messi fan…Having enjoyed the two of them for their footballing skills, this award would not how fans already feel about these two legends…However, given their talents, individual awards, and individual performances are available statistics, Messi is definitely right person to pick the award….It’s going to be a tough political affair given how fans feel about each of these players….
Judging Messi by his stats is purely a insulation to him, watch his game, dude.
Haha just walking in field here and there with turtle speed
Stats is thing define every player
@@helloooo732delusional
blud doesnt watch games he isntead watches youtube shorts
@@helloooo732
Talking like this means you are very young. When Messi was his prime, you were crawling so you are pardoned. If he was walking then he wouldn't have won all these awards@@helloooo732
@@helloooo732?
All said and done the real GOAT is Messi. Not only he scores with un matching performances but his assists are for more superior as it creates room for goal when there is no room ,chance or possibility. Such is his superior creativity. These assist are so thought provoking that send down the spines of rivals an element of fear and uncertainty. Leave alone it's accuracy, precision and impossibility.
His mere presence change the course of the game. He makes his team mates confident of their capabilities and motivated. More a team man too. His performances wrote in annals of footbal a new dimension. This genius of football is the most and the only fit person for super Ballon d or award, otherwise the considerations for selection will not be merit, genuine, creativity and excellence.
I am sure every genius in the world will agree to this
Bro ronaldo would have more assists than messi if he had good teammates who can finish his assists
@@nihalbhamrah4726 The difference in assists between Messi and CR is more vast than you think. CR has 258 in 1185 matches. Messi has 386 in 1048 matches. Even if CR's teammates did score, CR still wouldn't equal Messi in assists. Messi has played nearly 140 less matches. We must take that into consideration.
Like Maradona said Messi has many golden balls because of marketing
Where is Messi playing at the age of 35 😂
@@s9persaiyan Maradona was finished at the age of 32 years.
of course messi, 7 or 8 doesnt matter what country you come, only legend recieve too...
No one deserves it more than Messi. It will be a crime if the best player in the history of the sport doesn’t win it. Messi redefined football with the scariest prime in history.
Debatable
Messi was able to fool Barca into thinking they are a legendary club
Scariest prime with no ucl and laliga lmfao
@@nio3500 91 goals in a year...enough said
@@Alonso_The_GOAT No use of those so called 91 goals tho.
As a football fan, I’d love if they awarded 2 of them. It would be the best way to celebrate the beautiful game
💀
Nah why award two messi is the greatest of all time there can only be one person on top and that is lional messi you can support ronaldo but u guys have to accept the fact that Ronaldo ain't on messi level now not telling that Ronaldo is not great but it is what it is you people must open your eyes and see the reality
@@janak2675 bro just called messi the greatest lol, messi never even played at the best league, stayed at one club forever in 2nd best league
@@vfamily4396thats means real Madrid is not in the nest league?? Bro his first hat trick was against real Madrid and check the players who were playing from real at that game
@@janak2675 Saying that Ronaldo isn't on Messi's level is a stupid take. Ronaldo was still better than Messi 5/13 of their ballon d'or wins, and if you give Ronaldo his deserved Ballon D'or in 2023 and take away Messi's stolen ballon d'ors in 2021 and 2020, it will make it 6/12 ballon d'ors won by ronaldo. Saying that Messi is in another league is stupid if Ronaldo beat messi around half of their years.
Messi deserves every possible award in the world.
For doing what?
@@Masim443😂😂😂😂😂 nothing, as guardiola said messi worst sesons is the best seson for most players😂
Have you been watching football the past 15 16 years?
@@Masim443 being the best player in the world.
@@Masim443for paying fifa
Ok kid
Messi's achievements are so far beyond Cruyff, Platini and Di Stefano, I mean the man has as many Ballon d'ors as all 3 together. And has achieved far more than any other player in history. Really can't see how it could he awarded to anyone else, not unless the competition wants to lose all credibility and seriousness.
nope the problem these players carried team while messi never carried a team
@@adrienation messi never carried a team?what
@@Lucky-lo5dx can you tell me a team messi carried
@@adrienation Barca 2019
@@Lucky-lo5dx de 1 je parle d arriver dans une equipe mal en point puis la relever pas arriver dans le barca prime et tu dis sa a cause du ballon d or que plusieurs personne dise que messi a voler a
To think of anyone else other than messi is a crime man. Most trophies, most individual awards, most ballon d'or (8), 6 golden boots, 2 golden balls, most iffhs playmaker awards, most assists, most chances created, most dribbles completed, most goals in europe, wc, most goals in a season, most g/a in a season, most goals in a year, most motm, g+a ratio with games played, most freekicks in moder era. Its just way beyond for anyone to even come close to what messi has done. And the fact that he did all this along Ronaldo is just absurd. Absolute GOAT.
he didnt deserve his last 3 ballondors and the one in 2010
@@m-men20562023 and 2021 were robberies, Lewandowski and Haaland deserved it def
@@m-men2056 messi had 50 goals and 18 assists in 54 matches, carried the team to a laliga and had a pretty good ucl campaign, 12 goals in 10 matches how can you say he didnt deserve it?. In 2021, messi had 43 goals and 14 assists while lewandowski had 56 goals (ONE IS A PLAYMAKER AND THE OTHER ONE IS A PROPER STRIKER), messi had more chances created, more big chances created, dribbles and he even had better defending stats than both benzema and lewandowski. Lewandowski had club sucess while messi had both (club and international). Now 2023, messi 35 goals and 30 assists in 51 goals, won ligue 1, finallisma, world cup, world cup golden ball. While haaland also had a great season, he got exposed in big games while messi excelled in them having one of the best wc campaign of all time. Imaging having both club and international succes, highest g/a in europe and people still say he doesnt deserve LMAO
@@m-men2056you know nothing.
@@punkk4894Plus Messi won Copa del rey and Copa America in 2021 , let them cry more.
Messi doesn't deserve super the ballon dor , super ballon dor deserves messi .
🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐⚽⚽⚽⚽
No one cares
Fifa daddy deserve messi
@@Natsu16pendu fans bro 😂
@@Kingmaker534why u hating on rono? he never even mentioned him
This might be a hot take but I would for them both to receive it. Both gave performances that occur once in a life time. Both rivals that pushed each other to the greatest of heights. Messi might pull ahead but Ronaldo was there fighting right along side him to be one of the greatest players
No there can only be a winner if there is a loser. Giving them both sounds like a plot to a Disney movie.
Bro thinks Pendu compares to the goat
Messi undoubtedly deserves it but not giving it to penaldo would cause controversy
@@doglog3934Pespsi Guardiolla tucker 😅😅
Tucking his dog and him will give the most pleasure to you .
Isn't it dog?
@@doglog3934 you are the reason why football fans is the most toxic fanbase in all of the internet
Messi's resume is so ridiculous its not even fair. To think that anyone else would deserve this more than him would be a joke
ronaldo.goal recordsa are crazy.ronaldo isnt a playmaker is just a myth.ronaldo has 268 assits and is in top ten assisters.iniesta has 192 assits and xabvi has 240.ronaldo has 268.dont listen to people that say ronaldo isnt a playmaker they are lying to u.
@@NateKh-i6t Messi has more assists
@@umerfarooq-my4dm messi played easier leagues and played for better teams man
@@umerfarooq-my4dm and he played better like watch him play and then compare it to ronaldo messi has more outcome
@@vfamily4396 so you think madrid was a dogshit team? It was the greatest to its time and didnt manage to get 1 triple
Cristiano Ronaldo is the clear cut winner if we are being honest. Sure he don't have a World cup but his longevity is unmatched, he has dominated almost every stat in the toughest competition(UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE)in football. Most goals in the history of game to add also and on top of that he played and succeeded in many different leagues and now doing unmatched numbers at 38 years of age. Gave Portugal their first ever trophies and single-handedly help them to qualify for 5 World cups, 6 euros in a row while also having the most caps in international football and most goals too.
Clear cut winner? Really?
Atleast admit that it would be a difficult decision between Messi and Ronaldo.
Both have their arguments and reasons to win it.
@@ZedBC fair.
just qualify does not help messi won the world cup
@@rahulmondal5013 and that 's where you lack football knowledge buddy
Smartest Penaldo fan
1. Olympic gold
2. U20 Championship
3. World cup
4. 2 x WC golden balls
5. Most MOTM in history
6. Most international POTT in history
7. Most assists in history
8. Most ballon dors
9. Most trophies amassed
10. Winning most ballond ors, across three decades
And the list goes on... these are some of the credentials that just set Messi apart from the rest... to be fair there has never been competition really...
Messi deserves his 8th Ballon dor and the super Ballon dor.
No tbh
@@casual_racistyes tbh he deserved it. He had better stats this season
@@Vengeance_X5haland had a better stat yet hes win it so this is bullshxt
@@Vengeance_X5 wdym "better stats"
Better stats in leauge 1 compared to the La liga, Busdesliga and Premier leauge? All he did is one World Cup and the rest of the votes are just from his popularity
@@casual_racist" All he did it is one world cup" so we're gonna ignore he won the wc at 35? All Haaland does is score tap ins and pens. Kdb is clear imo but stats say Haaland > Kdb. Messi's achievement= Haaland's
+ he's the world cup winner with a better g+a
i really want Cristiano to win but Messi is just better and has achieved more.
Ronaldo will forever be my goat tho🐐
CR7 is and was one heck of a player!
dude, its so sad that soon we will have, to say messi and ronaldo 'were' one of a kind, I rly can't watch their retirement 😔😔
@@ZA-GOAT 😥
Trophy king Messi
I UNDERSTAND CHILDREN ARE NOT MATURE MINDED ESPECIALLY LITTLE BOYS THEY CAN BE MANIPULATED VERY EASY BY BIG ABDOS WHICH JUMPS HIGH JUST AFTER A FLAT TAP IN OR A HEAD GOAL OR WHEN A DEFENDER MAKE A MISTAKE.
when it comes to individual performance Messi is insane🎉🎉🎉🎉
MESSI WINNER 😅🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Yes but not close to the goat ronaldo
@@wesselvankoeverden9842then you must be blind
@@wesselvankoeverden9842 Please stop eating dog food, CR7 is nowhere near Pele, Maradona, R9 and even Zidane in individual performances, CR7 doesn't make the list of top 50 playmakers and you comparing him with Messi the greatest playmaker in football history, apart from scoring tapins and penalties what else can CR7 do?
CR7 pass accuracy is lacking, Messi goalscoring ratio is also better. Messi is a born genius.
@@aafootballtipstv4474Judging by this comment you are either underaged or don't watch cr7 enough. The only reason he scores tapins and pens is due to the fact that he had an injury in 2014, watch him before that and then speak pls
if I put Ronaldo to play in the center of the field he'll be lost.. for Messi it would be like a fish in the water.
If you put ronaldo in fromt of the box he would be the most deadly player in history especially in clutch moments when his team needed him the most
A striker position. absolutely. but Messi's magic with the ball is also a deadly combination.
But we're talking about the most complete player not just a pushing the ball. @@nihalbhamrah4726
@@nihalbhamrah4726not even. messi has a better shot conversion rate than Ronaldo. He's the better finisher
@@nihalbhamrah4726waiting for crosses and diving for penalties yes😂
That won't make him the best player rather a top scorer..@@nihalbhamrah4726
Other than Messi no one is even Close to Winning it, So It's Obvious
An robbing.
@@MutuAdrian335 cry more
@@ayanghosh2723 You cried about my comment yourself.Cry about it🤣
@@MutuAdrian335 pendu fan spotted opinion rejected
@@ayanghosh2723 Who asked?Who cares?Who tf are you?
If ronaldo wins it people will say ronaldo is officially better but if messi wins they will say rigged (even though stats this time definitely say messi is better )🙄😐😑😑.
Penaldo and Tapinaldo doesn't deserve to win a Super Balon D'or even if he has more goals. Messi is 2 years younger and would outscore him despite not being a striker when they both retire. Messi is the GOAT and deserves the Super Balon D'or.
Ronaldo played as a midfielder for 200+ games
@@accentillia8116 Messi has never played as a forward. He has always played as a false 9, midfielder, winger.
@@nihalpai7241Ok we just make fun of goats That’s all
@@nihalpai7241messis prolly gonna win it who knows
Step down lil bro pessi aint gonna win shit
One Messi Like 3 Cristiano Ronaldo___So Messi Deserve The Super Ballon d,or👈
That's the stupidest take I've heard in my entire life. How can Messi be 3 times better but have less goals lmao
After winning the world cup 2022 in Quatar is the best candidate of this award,there is no other prayer who achieved more like hime in this generation because he won every thing
He prays for
Di Stefano won with 1 ballon d'or less than Cruijff and Platini.
But 3 ballon d'ors is just too much difference, not to mention everything else (WC, 2 WC Golden Balls, 2 Laureus for Sportsman of the year, 2 Golden Boots, 5 IFFHS World's Best Playmaker awards and IFFHS Best Playmaker from 2006 to 2022 while Ronaldo isn't a playmaker at all, etc…etc…)
Messi is the greatest player of all time, the second greatest player of all time would be the difference between Messi and Ronaldo.
😂😂😂😂YOU ARE A GOOD COMEDIAN
@@smdwasiuddin1701 Making fun of me won't prove me wrong.
@@smdwasiuddin1701keep crying
actually you are the one making fun of yourself@@smdwasiuddin1701
@@ASam-yz1dj Your opinion makes fun of you
Messi deserved to win all the award of football...
meatriding is crazy
@@yelielvaznetovork3216 why cause he has all the records and won most awards and everything? Only thing Ronaldo will be ahead of him is in goals, while playing 160 more matches, only ahead of him with 40 goals.
Ronaldo fans will jealous of Messi winning his 8 ballon d'or
Oh really 😂 well okay if you say so let Fifa do the job then and steal it for Messi just like the 7 and 8 Ballon D'or 😂
Ok kid
This kind of title will only hurt the supporters of certain fan base when it happens😅
Keeping all the ballondors and other championships aside...he should be just given this super ballondor just for his performance on Worldcup
If that is so,Klose should have won it
Bro then r9 and Zidane should have gotten it then
I believe you let Messi rigged this one too just like WC and 7 and 8 Ballon D'or 😂
@@killerwee8969imagine being so good that everyone calls it rigged.
@@tuff9486true they hate Messi Because he's to good
Di Stefano + Platini + Cruyff = 8 Ballon D’ors
Messi = 8 Ballon D’ors
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In all fairness Messi only deserved 6. He won the extra two because the french writers hate Ronaldo.
@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234
Ronaldo fan crying as usual 😢. The truth hurts right 😢
Past 3 decades balon dor winner:
2000s-- Messi 2009
2010s-- Messi 2010,11,12,15,19
2020s-- Messi 2021,2023 -qualified
Messi deserve super balondor❤
Most golden Boot holder❤
Super ballon d’Or or not we have the World Cup everything else is already won
Pele chilling with 3 will always be legendary
@@ethantasti2521You can't really compare the levels. World Cup today is very much difficult, plus the prestige. In pelé times it wasn't a very important trophie. And even Pelé played only a game in his first WC, his second WC he wasn't the MVP. His only legit worldcup was his third. For me, Pelé only has 1 WC.
@@ethantasti2521Messi two times golden ball with one world cup.
This says all who took the team
If they will consider out of europe its would be Messi otherwise they will give it to CR7. Because messi isn't european. he is from south america and played international career from argentina. Whatever he achieved on international games is from argentina team rather than any europrean country. But it doesn't matter if messi doesn't get super ballon do'r, he will be GOAT in football history. He won all the trophies. Messi is advanced version of Maradona. he carried forward his legacy. 4 UCL, 1 olypic gold, 1 fifa wc anf 8 ballon do'r. no one have this kind of achievement in the football history who have achieved everything. he will be considered above maradona and pele.
Honestly I think the population most skewed towards either is the Middle-East to Ronaldo. He seems waaaaaay more popular there than Messi. Europe is pretty much 50/50 from what I understand as a Dutchman.
Messi is rly good, but cr7 deserves it either way tbh, ppl only look at stats and the way messi plays, but cr7 literally played harder leagues and competition than messi all his life, also played for weaker teams than messi
@@vfamily4396see u can't admit the truth, no excuses needed if CR7 is really deserved the award
@@vfamily4396both played in la liga for most times and cr7 also played in a club which is equally good as messis
@@AndreaDiaz-f1m equally? 🤣
Roandlo is winning it, why you may ask, the answer is simple roandlo has more glazers that was the ballon dor.
imagine if messi gets 10 ballon d'or
if ronaldo wpuldnt been there messi would have a total of 12 balloon d or
Super Ballon d´Or is awarded to the best player of the past 30 years
Messi was the only winner of the Ballon d'Or for 3 decades from 2009 to 2023
and he is the Goat
he has practically all the records, titles and awards that exist in that sport.
Accept in the Champions League. 😂 CR7 has all the records there…
@@LeonardBecker HE IS THE TOP SCORER
BUT THEY PLAYED 5 OR 6 MATCHES AGAINST EACH OTHER AND I THINK THEY ARE EVEN
@@LeonardBecker HE IS ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS BUT NO THE GOAT
@@LeonardBecker2016,17 was rigged by perez with offsides vs bayern. Take the 2 ucls out of Ronaldo trophies and the 30 goals in ucl in those 2😂😂
@@LeonardBeckercomparing champions league with 2 wc golden ball ???? Or even a wc trophy cry
One and Only Player who deserves super Ballon d'or - The Goat Messi 🐐
Ronaldo should be the winner 🏆 🥇
Delusional kid
Should my friend 🤍👑🤍
if it does not depend on the amount of ballon dor's one has, cristiano can win it fosure. he has been so consistent since 2004 and has never ranked below the sixth place in ballon dor since 18 years. A person will ballon dor points almost equal to someone who has three more than him, forsure deserves it
well messi also has more ballon dor points too😅
@@TanmayPuhan10 you dont understand clearly. ronaldo has almost equal ballon dors to messi, like bro has equal points to someone with 3 more ballon dors, which means, both of them equally deserve 8 ballon dors, it was just that messi was just ahead a few points in all of the cases he won.
@@cx_ftblsmartest Penaldog fan
@@cx_ftblMessi is so clear of Pendu
@@doglog3934 true tho, we are a lot smarter and unbiased unlike you meat riders and the dinosaur fifa organisation
i don,t care who will win i am just shocked about this award and icjust want to see someone win it
Yes messi
given
Don't care bout debate
Why don't they just give em both the super ballon d'ors
They certainly deserve it for entertaining the world for 2 Decades.
De stafano was the super balon dor winner. But player of the century was maradona/pele. Don't forget that.
Will all due respect towards di Stefano and Platini, I just can’t wrap my head around the fact johan Cruijff didn’t win the super ballon d’or
True, he was the real best player until 1990 (only europeans).
Messi wins on all counts💯
Obviously it will be Messi. Just like he robbed everything, he will surely rob super ballon d'or.
And crazy how after Messi started to get more trophies and awards than Ronaldo it’s suddenly rigged right? Grow up
Penaldoggy cry more🤡😂 Gaynaldoggy will definitely win the camel d'or 🐫
@@saketbhavsar1544 Pessi cannot even win anything without the help of Fifa🤡🤣 Autistic Gayssi only deserves gay D’or🤡🤡
@@saketbhavsar1544 Pessi cannot even win anything without the help of Fifa🤡🤣 Autistic Gayssi only deserves burger D’or🤡🤡
@@saketbhavsar1544 Pessi cannot even win anything without the help of Fifa🤡🤣 Acoustic Gayssi only deserves burger D’or🤡🤡
Don't say they are rivals... Only Ronaldo boasts himself as the best and no one is not greater than him..... But messi the greatest footballer and the finest human being never criticised any players....what a beautiful nature...that's called sportsmanship....so we the football fans always loves and admires king leo❤❤❤
lol, good jokes
i smell a jeet
6:35 the like button dies that???????
As a fan of both the GOATS,it doesn’t matter which one will win it,they still both played beautifully 😊
The fact that an Argentina was always on the top spot regardless of what decade should be enough proof that Argentina is the best football nation and Messi is the one and only to deserve the super balon d'or
Alfredo di stefano is Argentine same as Maradona and Messi.
You just cannot compete with the ultimate football nation🇦🇷
Pelé >>
Brazil got five. Italy and German both got 4. Argentina 3 (including 1 that is rigged). DiStefano believed that Pele is better than Maradona. Maradona grew up idolizing rom Brazillian Rivelino. Messi grew up learning from Fat Ronaldo. Messi is the best footballer in my lifetime, but best football nation? I think Argentina need 4 more WC to claim that spot.
Pele himself said that di Stefano was better than himself
Don´t talk about rigged
Maradona and Pele won a WC to a hand that the referee didn't see
Hand of god and elbow on the face@@Account.for.Comment
Messi won in ballon d´or (8>7), golden boot (6>5), world cup golden ball (2>1), leagues (12> 6), UCL/libertators (4>2), tittles (44>37) the only thing that Pele won is in world cup tittles LOL@@halftendedifiebf1741
@@Account.for.Comment Yeah best football nation is probably Brazil, with a shoutout to Argentina, Germany, Italy and in my opinion the Netherlands for their total football. We'll throw the English a bone for inventing the bloody sport.
Ronaldo ?No chance at all
Bro ronaldo is retiring in 2027
@@Alexrono980 Ronaldo retired in 2011.
@@BryantMj116 don’t be dum I mean Cristiano ronaldo
@@Alexrono980 🤦♂️ Penaldoooo
@@BryantMj116 pessi-🤡
Guys it’s France football that awards it, this means it’s over for Ronaldo, this trophy will be rigged again too.
Sure, the country he beat in a world cup final, theyre the ones wanting Messi to win...
Cristiano Ronaldo if he scores his 1000th goal........his UCL records are unmatched, all time top scorer in every format of football.....ballon dor's are meant to be given on the basis of individual performance...but in recent years we have seen it differently.....like 2019,21,23.......it's like a media show now.....whoever they like they vote....overthrowing the deserved winner.....but 1000 goals....it's just remarkable ......and very impossible to ears.......Cristiano has 873 goals now.....he will play until 41.....so he had the most chance of achieveing the 1000 goal record........so hope for best
Who cares about his rigged UCLs 😂 the fact is that his performance in the last WC was shit, and at the same WC Messi won, so it will have huge value. More goals are irrelevant when he has been playing longer than Messi.
Messi holds countless individual records, more than CR7.
@@Alonso_The_GOATsame can be said to the world cup btw Barca is shit rn😅😂
@@shivanshbisht9439 WC wasn’t rigged lol, the UCLs in 2016 and 2017 were 100% rigged though with how refs saved Madrid. Ronaldo scored 2 offside goals in 2017.
Yeah Barca is awful right now unfortunately, hope things get better
@@Alonso_The_GOAT ya first release Lewandowski he is not getting the support from CDM he once had in Bayern
why tf are there so many dots.use a full stop
Messi all the way
I agree so much
I couldn't agree more
C.R.I.S.T.I.A.N.O R.ON.A.L.D.O
I mean how can anyone other than Messi win it? Don't forget Coaches and players were already calling him the Greatest of All Time IN 2012, he somehow got even better after that, won everything with Argentina, became possibly the best passer of all time + Top 5 FK takers of all time😅
Okayyy Let's be honest To Haters and plastic fans of FOOTBALL They said: "It's not a senior career trophy. Show us the senior level world cup trophy."
Messi won the Olympic Gold in 2008: They said: "Olympic tournament isn't organised by FIFA. It's not a FIFA tournament."
Messi lost World Cup final in 2014. No one said Messi is a FIFA boy. No one said it's scripted. Everyone trolled his world cup final lost moments.
Messi lost 2007, 2015, 2016 Copa America finals. No one showed sympathy. Rather all of them criticised him for an senior career internationaltrophy. Everyone made him club legend, though he was the Argentina's leading all time top scorer.
Later, Messi won Copa America in 2021.
Suddenly, that international trophy (Copa America) became a Micky Mouse trophy. The trophy lost its value suddenly. They tried to show that European champions are stronger.
Messi won the Finalissima in 2022. Messi's Argentina beat European champions Italy. They started saying "Italy didn't qualify for world cup. It's not a strong team. European strong teams are France, Netherlands, Belgium bla bla bla..."
Finally Messi won the world cup 2022. Messi's Argentina beat European Giants Netherlands in Quarter finals, Croatia in Semi finals, France in Finals.
They are now saying "Messi is a FIFA boy, everything is scripted. Messi buys everything."
Where was FIFA when Messi lost 3 consecutive finals? Where was FIFA when Messi took retirement from football? Where was FIFA when France got 2 penalties in the world cup final?
You are the same guy who trolled Olympic gold medal winning campaign, because it was not a directly FIFA organised tournament.
When Messi took retirement from football ? Where was FIFA when France got 2 penalties in the world cup final?
You are the same guy who trolled Olympic gold medal winning campaign, because it was not a directly FIFA organised tournament.
You are the same guy who trolled Messi for winning FIFA Youth World Cup in 2005. Now Messi won FIFA organised Senior career world cup. But you guys making new theory.
Actually I am talking about the most shameless fan base in the history of football. You guys pollutes football. Stop supporting it. It's not your GAME. 😌👉☮️🌎❤️👈👏👏👏👏👏
Fax ngl these Ronaldo fans are really roxic
The Messi gatekeepers are doing quite the opposite arguing against Ronaldo. All your whining is doing is making the rest of us love Ronaldo even more. So keep yapping. 1000 goals will speak for itself.
@@Crixe-ps7qp Messi fans are equally so. I've never met a Messi fan capable of understanding the concept of an opinion.
Lionel Messi will win super ballon dÓr no doubt !
Yess I agree he will rigged it 😂
@@killerwee8969cry
@@killerwee8969imagine being to good that they say it's rigged
@@killerwee8969by being too good than someone you idolise 😮
There will be not such an award. It was a one time thing
If Messi doesn't win it, that will be a disrespect to the award itself🙂
If Messi doesn't get super ballon D'or then the super ballon D'or will be so unlucky that it won't be able to go to the greatest footballer ever.
they had one ballon d or difference. Here the difference is 3, that is 3 freaking years.
Messi was lucky to have be born in a stronger national team and be with barcelona almost all his career. Ronaldo winning that much across 3 different clubs and always having the media and fifa against him is just more impressive
bro 's living in his own world lol!
@@KingJames444_ Don't like ur own comment like that its pathetic
Delusional Ronaldo fanboy 😑
@@Olya0247 Not delusional, you just gotta have eyes and think logically
@@HazeyInsanity You create your own happiness and believe in it. You are delusional as I wrote
Cant believe people really wants to make arguments about this. Doesn't matter who is your personal favourite or best player, there is only one dude that is beyond his very own ludicrous stats. Messi is the best, most complete on his role, most condecorated and regular player this sport has ever seen.
Ronaldo has clearly not been treated fairly in recent price awards. Not surprised if he will not be nominated for the super Ballon d'or.
Who care about ballon d'or after messi win WC
Im fan of ronaldo but i agree messi is the best and he deserve❤
Ronado fans never digest this robbing ballondors of many players..
I'll revisit this video in 2030.
bet you you won't remember it
No doubt, it should be given to Messi the GOAT.
😂😂 ronaldo is better than Messi
@@Elyor-g2k In ur dreams 😂
messi doesn't need the super ballon d'or.....the super ballon d'or needs messi.....
😂😂😂❤❤🎉
Although Ronaldo was good in his prime, it wasnt very long whilst Messi's was longer with mor bangers and better goals (Beside Ronaldo's Bicycle kick). I personally think Messi should win. :)
Instead choosing between the two it would be great to announce both of them as super ballon d or winners it would be wonderful because those two guys did something others can't do for almost two decades
Yeahh
Yeah, but no😊
Yuck. This is elite football. There are no participation prizes.
what an incredibly stupid idea
Yea worst thing I've ever read this day
It would be real good if both of them get called on the stage to receive the super ballon d'or together as a duo accomplishment...🐐🐐
would be bad considering messi is clearly better
@@Kon17lol a robber??
@@ganapatithapa3012 Messi was clear ever since he won the world cup, plus him having more than ronaldo in basically every single award makes it pretty clear to me.
Messi won ballon d’or in three different generations, has the most ballon d’ors and completed football if he doesn’t win it’s rigged 🤷♂️
Mbappe win 600 goals 2 world cup and 4 ucl
@@GURUxSHAILUhe never did all of those tf u saying
@@Xuhaz 🙈🙉🙉🙉🙉
@@GURUxSHAILU crazy how u just showed u are a monkey
Messi
messi will get it, we all know the drill... guy scored 6 penalties 2 years ago and gets "the best" award with only having a goal this season.... when the true winner won virtually every possible big team and single player award this year while being his team's best player
Yeh man, all of CR7's inhumane conquers across all the leagues in europe, the biggest competition achievments (champs league) will never be anything to messis' decade of champions league humilliations and for scoring 6 penalties on a rigged tournament, with rigged unmerited individual awards while playing for teams that buy refs since he started his professional career lol
Messi is a great player, for sure a top 10 in history when he was amazing under pep... everything after that is just inflating an overvalued player that barely walked all of his matches and got excessively inflated by the media/fifa... Kinda sad how the biggest lie of all time in football history is also one of its best players to ever play the sport
While I agree with the best award being undeserved, you need to relax. I can smell the tears from here. Messi dint score 6 penalties at the world cup, Ronaldo won his champions leagues in a club that both had and has won more without him and conquered Europe while playing for the biggest team in each league. Saying Messi is nothing but a top 10 player is genuinly just disrespectful 😂
@@lukasst2597 well man, with paid refs i can be as good as pele lol, he was truly great a long time ago, ott he's extremely overrated (good but not as good as media portrays him)
@@lukasst2597 Almost as disrespectful as you believe Messi's the goat when Ronaldo is.
@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 keep living in delusion Messi is the goat and Ronaldo ain't even close cry
@@eamichelenaPenaldo will win super ballon d'or for robbing ucls with offside goals, robbing Ribery in 2013 and winning euros by sitting on the bench 😂
If super balloon D'or is not given to messi, then I think we should stop watching football. 😮😮
😂🤣😂
Messi is a great great and magestic player but Ronaldo has nothing more to prove, with what he has done in the past he can surely be titled the GOAT. Messi may have more Ballon d'ors but most of them are unfair and legally not his. A world cup makes a difference between both but Messi had a far better team than Ronaldo with Portugal. He has went to different leagues and countries and dominated them. Not to mention that he is dominating at present at the age of 38. He is a complete player.
THE ballon d'or is decided by votes and opinions, Ronaldo won his by opinions and Messi won his by opinions too..
Messi deserve every single trophy he has, don't say shit that you just know nothing about...
Ronaldo went to every league and became their top scorer bcos of his playing style,he most times only stays in front to get the goal,but Messi going to psg was his biggest mistake.. Because,their style of play is different from Messi's..
Messi spent more than a decade in Barcelona and got used to that style of play of Barca,so you don't expect him in one season or two to change his style of playing to psg own..He did well after some seasons tho,cos he drops back alot...
And Messi having a better team than Ronaldo,how?...Benaldo Silva, Fernandez,Leao,and others..So those people are not class players,rated more than Messi teammates..
And he is just a complete goal scorer,he is only complete in goal scoring aspect...Ok?..
Messi can use his right and left foot with over 100 goals with right and over 500 with left,and just 20plus with ahead..He is a complete goal scorer, playmaker,passer and the best dribbler..
Ronaldo doesn't have the quality of a great playmaker,passer and not even rated top 5 in best dribbler of all time..
Messi is the greatest player of all time..He is will the super ballon d'or,mark my word!!!
@@karelaking9445 Shut up Messi fan and don't talk trash about me alright. You don't know nothing about Football, I was just saying the reality but you started to favour Messi cause you are a Messi fan. You know, it is people like you who start comparing the GOATs while they don't even care.
@@karelaking9445 bro is yapping
Also neuer has 2 sextuples let that sink in
@@ethantasti2521 I don't get you
@@karelaking9445 I'm just Stating a fact
There's nothing to get at
Trophies are won,
Awards are given,
Ballon d'or is a given award and not won,
It should not decide the winner
They should give it to both of them
First of all, the speculations are false according to France Football. They do not have any plans to bring the Super Ballon D’or again.
Secondly, if it does get awarded a second time, it will once again be awarded to an Argentine just like the first time, don’t worry.
Messi deserves it more than any player in history. Even Di Stéfano.
There's always this one guy
If they're willing to change the rules to make non European players eligible then obviously they're doing so just to give it to messi.
But it is fair to give anyone rather than Europians .if the rules doesn’t change then they are doing so just to give it to ronaldo
or maybe because football isn’t only played in europe? retarded take
@@murphy1761France is European right?? yess they are.. so if they say they wanna leave it for only Europeans no issues there man!!!
But if they change the rule it's still on them... it all seems fair!
Obviously having changed the rule for the normal ballon dor it is only logical that the same goes for the super ballon dor
come on we all know Messi gonna win this...his records and achievments are unmatched now not only for 30 years for the rest of history...he is the most decorated player with 45+ trophies
Messi is a dwarf on growth hormones idk how was even allowed to play since it’s the strongest Doping that exist. Imagine giving these hormones to Ronaldo to boost performance.
@@LX44er lol 😂those hormones are growth hormones not super strength hormones and those are eligible even ronaldo can take it..its of no use..cuz messi is pure talent
@@bharadwajbarik5214 so you clearly dont Know what growth Hormons do, They Boost You’r strength Speed, Performance musxles etc. Ask You’r doctor Ur delusional, Messi will be the biggest Fraud Football ever seen
@@bharadwajbarik5214 dani alves will come runner up with 40 trophies
@@bharadwajbarik5214 messi doesnt deserve to win, he may have better stats but the leagues both played for, the teams both played for favours cr7, and euros > copa america
I mean.. he’s the only one qualified at this point really.
The only thing that can make a strong argument for Ronaldo is remaining the top champions league and international goalscorer.
Only Champions League, they face different level of competition during most of the games for their NTs, even now Ronaldo has a lot of chances to statpad against weak opponents during qualifiers (Portugal scored 32 (!) goals during current qualifier, 9 of those were Ronaldo's)
127 goal in 203 Match Cristiano and he has advantage against 90-100 FIFA Ranking and most advantage as Nation League competition and Eurp Cup Qualifications.
106 Goal in 176 match Messi and he has 50% against CONMEBOL team national 28 FIFA Ranking if only Bolivia 78 Ranking of FIFA, Copa America Tournament nothing Qualifications and Argentina team national nothing CONMEBOL Nation League.
Messi against Europe team has 20%goals and 30% FIFA Match Day friendly.
Messi's international career is way better than Ronaldos so I don't understand your argument. The only thing that Ronaldo has is the ucl. Messi is better everywhere and is overall clearly the better player. It's not even a debate
@@ModernFootball866 hmm... How not understand detail read. The core Cristiano superior more Match.
@@MESS1VSR9NALDO Speak english. Messi's international career is way better and that's a fact. CR7 shouldn't even be in the conversation for winning the super Ballon d'Or bcs Messi is clearly the best player of the last 30 years
Lionel Messi deserves The Super Ballon d'or.
He already the World Cup and 8 Ballon d’or, he has to something much greater to deserve it and he already got enough rewards already
Messi will not win it, Ronaldo will get it, he always does what he can to make himself better, messi might have 8 ballon d'ors but we all know they gave it to him cause media just loves to D ride on messi. Ronaldo isn't stopping, he continues to be the best despite his age
Least delusional Penaldog fan 😂 UEFA gave Vardrid and Penaldo 2 rigged UCLs, he has less Ballon d’Ors, he has no WC but he suddenly deserves it more?
@@Alonso_The_GOAT Least delusional? Learn some English and then go back and learn some history. CR7 is the goat.
Sooo why will messi not win it with the 'current rules' ??????
Because Politic
Politics. However he'll still win regardless
Because he’s short
Media goat VS Real Goat
Not even Media's goat, Ronaldo is a goat to Insta audience.