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Fixing The Color Vector Monitor in a 1983 Atari Star Wars Arcade Game! Don't Tell Disney!
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This game was so cool when it came out in the early 80's Especially if you played the sit down version.
Yup...you even had to queue (wait in line) to get on.
I was able to get an Arcade 1up version and it’s awesome.
Your explanation of why these are rare makes sense. Your average tech when troubleshooting could blow the whole job... makes sense. Amazing looking in person - it's a shame the camera doesn't do it justice!
When this game came out, it was considered to be among the best games out there. Long lines, many quarters!
I'll bet so! I missed it a little bit, I was too young at the time... thank you for watching jgarrison1309!!!
To hit the exhaust port every-time when Luke shouts Yahoo just point the crosshairs/ sights downwards to the bottom of the screen but keep in the middle of the screen (not off to the left or right) - and just keep firing non stop - you will hit the port every-time!!! - you could do it with your eyes closed - very simple.
I remember that game; it was my fave as it was the first one I ever completed! Ahh, good times… 🕹
Literally just finished part one as this went live. Good timing.
It’s meant to be 😎
There is one at the local arcade here in Reno, Nv... at wave 9 trench level it's damn hard... i was around 8 yrs old when i first played... been hooked ever since... funny thing is i had to explain to people how to blow up the death star. Its amazing how people play these complex modern games yet can not understand the simple video games like Star Wars...
20:05 "Folks; More important than if there's a freaking picture on the front, if there's a fire in the back!" well said
Back in 1985 My father bought 14 games from a Showbiz Pizza at Southlake Mall. In Georgia.
Among those 14 games there were 2 Tempest Games and 1 Sit Down Cockpit Star Wars. The monitor on the star wars did not work, but I managed to fix it by taking it to My Electronics class at High school and traced down the defective parts on the deflection board. The two Tempest games ended up with my 2 older sisters, and the rest went to some guy on the other side of the city. Years later, I managed to buy back the Atari Star Wars, and I had to repair it again. This time the Atari Pokey chips had gone bad and the controls did not work. After repairing it, I managed to sell the Star Wars for around $800.00 I felt sick to find out they are worth a Lot more than what I sold it for.
Never had much use for arcades as a kid. But, This is the only game I got into. Played about a hundred times. Scored into the 50 millions. Then the game was pulled.
Thank you for watching, Charles!
Joe's Classic Video Games,
I don't understand ALL that you're doing because my electronics knowledge is very limited -- I've installed custom PCB's into old joystick boxes to get them to work with newer-generation consoles and PC's, over half that work done with soldering before screw terminals (+$20 upcharge!) became the norm for this hardware.
I appreciate, though, that there's work involved here!
Oh, and you paint better than think!
You've obviously repaired a bunch of these machines!
These vintage games are way too cool.
Thanks, and congratulations on getting this game operational again. Very cool! :) No way I could afford to even restore one of these, let along "get" one. LOL
Hi Ron that is a cool video of the repair and test playing it.
Keep up the great work on bringing these old machines back to life
Steve Greene from WI
Thank you Steve, we appreciate you watching!
I don't think I've ever seen this game before.. certainly haven't played it. I think I must have been living under a rock for the last 37 years. thanks again Ron.
This game is really something special. Back in the 80's it really stood out from the rest of the crowd. It's impossible to describe just how beautiful the game looks in person on that vector monitor, and how perfect those flight yolk controls are. RUclips videos and even emulation of the game just don't do it justice.
Oh man, switching on a game after a repair is always so nervewrecking :D Good stuff as usual, Ron, thank you! I would love to get one of these, especially a cockpit, but they cost a pretty penny these days.Nothing beats vector graphics and those guys working in the arcade industry BITD were true geniuses.
You got that right you just gotta go for it and hit the switch 😎
@@LyonsArcade Yup, Fire in the hole!
So much of my pocket money went into this game when I was a teenager. Thank you for sharing how you repaired this wonderful machine.
Thank you for watching, Allan!
This brings back memories of 5 year old me in an arcade in skegness playing this to death, I used to spend so much on this game everytime we went on holiday.
You're still repping Star Wars with your Avatar to this day :)
Oh my goodness..I used to love this as a kid Inthe 80's...so any memories... thankyou!
Thank you for watching Richard!
Brings back fond memories of visits to arcades on our family holidays when I was younger, the arcades were filled with machines Iike this and I remember playing this particular game.
I remember like a tank commander game, with 3d line vector graphics where you looked through like a periscope and could move your tank around and blow stuff up. 👍😎
Battle zone. The ps4 console came out with a remake using VR which is actually pretty fun. Of course it's not vector based but same setup
Yup that would be Battlezone, we filmed one awhile back if you want to see it again: - ruclips.net/video/zdfKy4c7yuc/видео.html
My dad worked for an operator in London in the 80s, I was lucky enough to have the small battlezone in my bedroom, also had a gottlieb golden arrow pin table.
My god!! The one arcade game I would die for. I was blown away as a kid playing this! Deadly Disk Tron was another one. I'm a sucker for vector graphics. Multiple colors too, lord! What a jem, It's hard not to be envious.
I'd love to get one of those Discs of tron games in!
@@LyonsArcade RIGHT! Such a cool 3D effect for the time! Subscribed for life. What a cool job! Thanks for the response.
I’ve seen one of these in person... the vector display really is quite different than a raster...
Yeah it's hard to explain you just have to see one to see the difference.
Gosh I loved playing this game in 1983! That death star canyon run did not return in the much later StarWars nintendo and lego games. Oh well. Thanks for the memory flare up!
Thank you for watching Ocker!
Spent a lot of quarters on that game. My god that brings memories of joy back. Thank you
Thank you for watching Ira Lee! Great name by the way. I'm Ronnie Lee!
Yep an iconic and fun game! Which is why I picked up the Arcade1up stand up version in October of 2019! The dudes at Code Mystics did a fantastic job at the emulation showing the flashing when you get hit. It is hard to emulate that in MAME. Mainly why I love the cabinet and don't want to mod it with a PC. lol Anyway great job at fixing it and I learned a lot of things watching the video!
*"...Wells Gardner..."*
Used to dominate the market until Hantarax crept in.
1970s to 1990s best era for electronics repair.
I managed to get one of these a couple of years ago, but I so badly want a sit-down one.
Such a fun game that never seems to get old.
Thank you for watching Migraine!
I used to love this one. My local arcade had a sit down version of this. Fantastic
That sit down one is one of the grails of collecting these now. Worth a small fortune. Thank you for watching Steve!
I don't remember this being in color. Just green only. But I loved this game when I was young. Thank you for bringing it back! :)
This was my favorite game when I was young. I still love it! I wish they had a way to port it to the PC.. Amazing experience for 1983..
I think the only port I saw was they had it on the Nintendo Gamecube as a free game if you bought one of the star wars games, can't remember which one.... thank you for watching Steve!
You can play it on PC with MAME although you have to own the machine to legally obtain the ROM.
Awesome video. Thanks for all the info. I have my own standup Starwars. It has a EMpire Strikes back board in it. SOmeone put a marquis sticker over the top of the original starwars header. But the cabinet is the same otherwise. I still have the original Starwars boards it had as well. ( I worked for the company back in the late 80s that sold it to me, so I nabbed the starwars boards from the warehouse when I bought it) Last I fired it up.. one axis was down. Nice to see a refresher of repair.. since its been 30+ years since I was repairing those regularly.
Amazing to think those high score initials have been there for decades!
yup, lol Thank you for watching BakerImageGroup!
Just found your channel last week and have really been enjoying all the repairs you've done. Great stuff!
Thank you Bart, we appreciate you watching!
Ahh the memories being in the sit down version brilliant
The sit down ones are very hard to find now! Thank you for watching Phillip!
So glad it’s working again! Looking forward to seeing more gameplay of it! Awesome vid👍🏻😎
God that brings back memories. I wonder how many tokens I dropped down the slot as a kid? We would visit my grandmother and there was a mall nearby. Star wars was right at the front and would but dozens of tokens in there every time!
Thank you for watching Curtis!
watching you work on this and then mentioning the lv2000 brought back memories of when i repaired that atari space duel about 12 or so years ago, first time i ever soldered something and it was a lot of fun bringing it back, wish i hadnt sold it
You could probably find another one luke but I'd imagine the price went up! Thank you for watching!
@@LyonsArcade probably considering i got it for free from the side of the road and sold it for $250
very cool game for that time period
Definitely! Thank you for watching, Austin!
When I was a kid I loved the vector games like asteroids and tempest. I was never very good playing so I just enjoyed watching and admiring the tech (of the day) and thinking about how they worked. I never got into repairing vintage game machines but it seems like a good venture to get into. Vector graphics are cool, as I turn on my Sony PS5 lol!
When testing transistors it will be open from collector to base and from emitter to base if it is PNP so switch probes round. With NPN we test on diode base to collector and base to emitter.
Thank you alun!
This was one of my favorite games back in the day lots of money pumped into this one
Yeah it was very popular I'll bet! Thanks for watching Michael!
you got some wizardry going man.
Well done on yet another successful fix buddy!
Thanks for watching as usual!
Obviously the Force was with you!
We can do it!
I played this in a (coin shop ?, sorry I don't know the exact name in English) when it came out (seated version), they kept it there for a few years, the first months they adjusted the setting so you would regain few shields when destroying the death star. I was able to play endlessly (and a few othes) foro hours, so in the end they raised the difficulty settings so this was much harder to do. I remember the screen monitor to get burnt (?) from sontinous exposire of the off play demo running (you could see the ghost lineson the parts of the scrreen that were more often static while on the demo, sorry if I Cnt explain myslf better but I bet you understand what I mean, it was/is a common issue on CRT devices).
As a side note, not sure if someone else has pointed it here, you DO CAN USE THE FORCE, what it means is you get a bonus if you flight the whole trench up to the box without firing a single shot, thats what actually means when you start and calls you to use the force. It's quite simple in first trenches rotating the ship from corner to cornermore or less, its noticeiably harder on hardertrenches where you get 4x2 walls withs only 1 opening, since the missilesyou get on you always are fired to your current position so pemanent movement and proper positioning and anticipation is needed in order not to lose all your shilelsd in th eprocess, still quite doable (jus need gaming training !)
Wizard.. what a Classic game all em years ago i so remember them days
Yea Im a tech at an arcade and our SW has been down blowing transistors for a month playing blind. The owner said a few days ago he got the monitor working on his home test rig so we "should" be good. Im looking forward to finding out what the issue was. Flakey buggers. You walked to the front after swapping the 1.5 resistor to a black screen and im like, "Wait for it to warm up," and BAM ha. Nice work. Hahaha that exhaust port gave ya a run for your money.
Enjoyed the series Ron - cool to see your repair process. What a killer game!
Thanks for watching rtchrg440!
Such a rewarding experience that after investing all that time to fix it you can turn it on and be able to play it. Thanks for sharing Ron as always great material.
One of my favorite games at Aladdin's Castle back in the day! Great troubleshooting skills man!
Thank you for watching, Jason!
So much love for this game, great to see one well maintained.
This game ate a lot of my quarters back in the day !!
Thank you for watching Steve!
Fantastic game, and bloody brilliant to see it again. Thanks Joe!
Good series of videos on this one. It's great all the information that out there nowadays (including your helpful videos and explanations). I see that lots of people have talked about the "Use The Force" bonus. I didn't find out about that bonus until about 12 years AFTER the game came out. Some guy was just playing and dodging the fireballs. I asked what he was doing and he told me. Crazy. One of my favorites to play to this day. After about wave 3, I'm pretty much toast.
Non-inductive resistor...... There is an electronic component called an inductor or choke. This device resists AC, much more than DC. Inductors are made from coiled wire like a transformer is. Some large resistors are wire-wound, and work great for DC, but will produce higher ohm loads for AC. So a non-inductive resistor is made from materials like carbon or metal film that have equal effect on AC and DC.
The difference is also the way they are wound. There are ways to wind resistors that reduce or prevent induction. For instance, you can wind halfway in one direction and return and do it in the other direction. Plus it can be wound in a parallel notched formation. Those would be larger due to having 2 separate windings at twice the resistance.
100% AWSOME!!!! i remember playing this as a kid
Wow wow wow.....absolutely awesome for sure......i spent a lot of my pocket money never getting very far...lol....brilliant......cheers
I remember playing this at the movies that played star wars return of the Jedi.
Accidentally had RUclips on half speed and it sounded like you were fixing that Wells Gardner with Jack Daniels. 😂 Great video and nice work as always!
The Atari 5200 version of this game was the closest they got in a console, it was pretty much pixel-accurate to this but did not feature the clear speech sound samples, and did not appear as precise on a vanilla tv
I never played that version, thank you James!
I absolutely loved that game. I found if you started out on medium, you'd get more points quicker and actually last longer. Several times I was able to get my name in the top 5 doing it that way. Never could starting at easy.
ahhh, i'll remember that! Thanks for watching spudthegreater!
I've got this upright Star Wars game and am trying to figure a monitor issue out, as well. Game is playable and there is audio. This video will help me try to figure this out.
Thanks for the video! 31:26
"Use the force" means "Dont fire your guns and avoid everything for the Force Bonus". Also it doesnt matter what button you press to hit the exhaust port. In later levels dont shoot the ties and just shoot the fireballs. there is a maximum number of items that can be on screen so leaving the tie fighters alone, you actually cut down the amount of stuff it can draw at once.
I remember playing that game to death on the sit in version. I would imagine that there is some sort of screen adapter you can get to use a modern flat screen display to play this. I've heard that the screens are incredibly difficult to get hold of (probably impossible on this side of the pond in the UK).
Yeah they're very rare that's for sure. They've remade a lot of the parts though believe it or not, so you can build a new one with the exception of the glass tube and the frame, but those aren't too hard to get yet the tube can be out of a television. The high voltage board, yoke and deflection board though have been completely reproduced!
Incrível 👏👏👏👏🥳🥳🥳.. você é um mestre das recuperações.. parabéns 👏👏👏🍀
What a beautiful game (and cool machine)! Actually never saw a Star Wars arcade, only played the game on MAME... I hope one day I get to play on a real machine!
Fantastic good work getting that monitor to live again
I remember playing this when it first came out. In the UK they had a seat and cockpit, so it felt like you were in a ship
Yes I remember the same...
That is a thing of beauty. Great fault finding👍
☺ the force is with you Joe´s
May the Force Be With You, Wilder!
I've only ever played the old monochrome version of this. We would stand in line for hours at the arcade to play this.
My memory of this game is growing up in Atlantic City and I was playing this game at The Fun Spot. I had my best game ever going and out of the corner of my eye I see a dude jump on my bicycle and take off with it. But I had my best game going. Oh well.
Great Tech repair on that board😎👌
Thanks Daniel!
It’s been many decades since I fixed one of those monitors.
Those transistors used to blow all the time. Are use my RadioShack transistor tester to check them. Much quicker.
Unfortunately the fly backs used to burn out all the time and there was no replacement for them. I put a lot of great games to rest because there was no replacement fly backs or monitors for them.
$200 worth of transistors? Not back then. The operator I worked with loved it vector games.
I was lied to about the $200 worth of transistors :) They made a replacement flyback eventually but I don't think it came out until like 2000 for the Amplifones at least, thank you for watching Neil!
@@LyonsArcade
Had I known that they would’ve made fly back Someday I might have saved a game. I believe that low-voltage fix was originally from a newsletter from back in the day. I guess somebody made a board out of it.
I’m going to watch some of your other videos. And see if it makes me feel nostalgic.
Use the Force Ron ;) x thanks guys x a great machine and a great restoration video !! x
Hundreds of videos in, and the minge pad still amuses me every time 😂👍
It’s become a staple!
@@LyonsArcade lol, I'm adding a pilgrimage to 'Minges printing company' to my bucket list! 😂 😂 According to Google maps it's 3,800 miles from here.
Nice work!
Thank you Thomas!
When that game came out Malibu Grand Prix that game was always busy
As instructed at 18:18 - I kept my fingers crossed for you, and no "Shit might catch on fire", You're welcome! :)
_Useless info:_ I pulled one of those big white resistors out of a bread machine last week...
...Can I uncross my fingers now??
The force is with this fixer, a real Yoda. 💪👌😆. I think you can fix the hyper drive on the millennium falcon too👉
No we need Chewy for that
@@LyonsArcade nah just a fuzzball chewy usless
If you collect old arcade video games then this one is a must...
Finally I get to see someone worse at this game than me!
The sit down cockpit version is pretty much the holy grail for any collector.
Good job!
Thank you Rob!
I had the vertical deflector issue on my regular TV once (long time ago) this was an easy fix at the time... one of the chips was burned out.
You said that there are levels to repair knowledge. I was expecting you to say repair knowledge is like an onion it has layers.
That's one way to put it, I'm still crying trying to fix your Red Tent, LOL We'll get it done pretty soon though!
Shit boy, your reflexes aren't too shabby at all; this game used to whoop my ass every time back in the day.
Use the force Ron!!
I'm going to hit em with the force like Obi
oh wow.. the sound of 40 year old electronics sputtering to life i used to collect from my paper route a month early just to play this in the arcade all day long
The flicker is exactly what I get when I try to record my Vectrex. I think it can be fixed by adjusting the refresh speed or something. I've seen it mentioned on other channels, but haven't gotten it fixed myself.
It has to do with the frame rate on the camera vs frame rate on the screen you're recording. Like how you see these days many LED lights flicker on video. If your camera lets you change the frame rate, try a different one.
Yes if you have a really nice camera you can actually sync it up but I have a little point and shoot with a few adjustments but I've never been able to get it adjusted out! Thank you for watching (both of you!)
Id love to own one of these originals some day. The 1up ones just dont have anywhere close to the same charm
So cool, so RETRO, SO 80s so 😎
Next fixing an original Star wars pinball machine . That game is still great today I rather have that than the ones that came after it.
I'd like to get one in to work on for sure!
The gameplay looked a little intense...
then I remembered I was playing this at 1.5x speed.
I’m just that fast!
The force is stronge with this one
Thanks David!
3792 and 3716? Push-pull pairs of transistors are always made with adjacent part numbers, unless one has been replaced by a superceding part number. And when they go bad, one should always replace both. So someone has been bad and only replaced one of them.
Also, I love that game! Used to get over 6 million points regularly.
You’re completely wrong with your assumptions and corrections but I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Take care.
Did you guys know that when you go down the trench, if you ONLY DODGE and don't shoot anything EXCEPT the exhaust port you get a big bonus when you destroy the Death Star? Been playing this game as a kid and only found out about that recently!
When he was saying that I figured he was saying he'd shoot the port for me, but that didn't work out, ha
The circuit that drives the horizontal and vertical coils on the defection board is literally a textbook circuit.
I could dig thru my electronics text books and tell you what the function of each resistor, transistor etc is, doubt it would help much in fixing it though.
Just look at the circuit for an 80's/90's transistor based amplifier or kit of one, you'll find it's much the same thing.
wow been away on a Long trip got some catching up to do :)
If I could afford it.
A STAR TREK cockpit.
And a.
STAR WARS cockpit.
And tell people I love both Star Trek and Star Wars.
And I don't take sides in the great debate.
That would be awesome, a local guy had a star trek cockpit for sale but we didn't buy it, just didn't want to get into that can of worms when we have so much other stuff to work on. We're wayyyyyyyyy behind on games!
I get it.
But the STAR TREK cockpit Is truly the way to go.
Buttons on the left hand..
And spiner on the right..
Or was it reverse?
I can't remember but..
With the speakers on the back of the environmental cabinet..
That environmental cabinet I will play anyday.
It looks janky as hell.
But playing the game.
It makes perfect sense.
Compared to the upright cabinet.
Great game. Great video. Great!
Thanks Digital Confusion!
Freshman year of College, for a quarter I would play until I was bored or had to go...
Talllll LENT lol Thanks for watching Freddy!
👍 Vector monitors are a different animal. Respect for fixing that thing, fart next to one and you might get the dot of doom. Impressive! I know they work more like an oscilloscope than an everyday monitor.
Yes you can actually display the signals on an oscilloscope... thank you for watching Luke!
My only suggestion would be to refresh the thermal compound, since it dries up and gets ineffective with age. No hate. Your transistor test method will find totally bad transistors just fine...... Germanium transistors can become leaky, and diode testing won't really catch that, but these are Silicon, so you're good.
u did great jobs getting it back to alives