Michael, please get a sticker sheet sorted so we can support your channel + GSXR restoration. £5 for an array of sticker sizes of your famous logo - who doesn't love a sticker plus we're supporting one of the very best at the same time. Cheers and thanks for making great videos!
Thanks as always Neevsey. For the Tuono - here are the changes I would make to my E5 Factory 1. Add more rider programmable modes 2. Add engine power modes - not just throttle maps 3. Use nuts and bolts that are more robust and less likely to round out 4. Change pre-load adjustment ease for the forks - right now it's a right pain the arse 5. Stylemas and not M50's 6. Forged wheels as a factory option rather than having to buy a whole new set 7. Heated grips 8. Better windscreen - closer to the RSV4 style and coverage 9. Better plastics and paint finishes 10. Second radiator fan I could add more but then again the point is I love my bike - like a second glance each time level of love! Track days by lap time make sense else there will need to be 10-12 different groups of bike size, "skill" combos. Reality is - as an amateur on on my bike I am likely to be slower down a straight than a 600 or even smaller bike because I lack the skill or the bravery to go full throttle early enough. Same thing entering and through the apex of corners with trail braking etc. In most situations the rapid closing distances are predicated by skill - which is on average predicted by lap times. Of course there are exceptions but I see this as the lesser of the evils. I think track days will be best served by managing for etiquette and sporting behaviours. Even in a situation where two similar bikes with similarly skilled riders try to occupy the same piece of asphalt, bad things happen if both have taken the Senna quote too literally.
Best thing you can do for the Tuono is fit the forged RSV4 factory wheels (10 spokes) as the tuono factorys still come with the heavier wheels youd find on a RSV4RR. Also a good free modification is to remove the riser block for the handlebars and rotate it 180° as it is offset, so you can move your weight slightly forward on the bike which makes it feel more 'nosey'.
I've fitted a set of factory forged wheels to my old GSXR 1000 K4. Love 'em! And a damn sight cheaper than Dymags, Marchesini, etc - lighter than most of them too!
As a '17 Tuono Factory owner and someone who works on thier own bikes a lot, the biggest thing I would improve with Aprillia is their build quality, there is way too much variation from bike to bike, and reliability isn't the greatest.
21:55 I love how you can see the genuine happiness in you. Glad to see after all these years you still know how lucky you are. Actually, lucky probably isnt the right word, you've worked for it and you're damn good at it. Probably the best bike reviewer I've seen, there are some who may be a bit funnier, some that are a bit nerdier, some that are proper professional racers but you sir, you mix all of these perfectly. Thank you for all your content :)
I remember a track day at Rockingham, where the “novice” group had beginners riding touring bikes mixed with very experienced riders on racing superbikes with track fairings and tyre warmers. Needless to say it was carnage and ended in the air ambulance picking up some very hurt riders. I left by lunchtime as so many dangerous moments. Reckless by the event organisers looking to sell slots in groups no matter the danger.
I remember at Donington, mid 2000's pit lane exit marshal was stopping people going out, as the organiser had over sold the event so badly. That not everyone could go on track at the same time (people had paid).
Brought my 2019 Tuono factory after your RUclips review where you said you would marry it 3 years later and still absolutely love it had no issues with it been on track and road had it re mapped purely just to smooth out the fueling low down now it’s perfect hope to see you get one after the 750
I’ve replaced the stock wheels of my Tuono with carbon ones from Rotobox. Makes the bike more agile through corners. I would recommend doing that (carbon or forged ones).
About the very noisy screens on adventure bikes: when I rent an adventure-style bike on holiday, I ask the rental agency to simply remove the screen altogether.
Hi buddy, love these Q&A. I do trackdays with MSV. As they do novice track days and road bike only trackdays, as we care about our bikes more. Keep up the great work.👍🏼
As you say, the best way, if still imperfect, is to use transponders and rebalance the groups by times. Almost all operators here in Spain do this. In the UK, they could just not publish the times to avoid the insurance companies considering the event to be a race or time trial.
I would love for the answer for the track day problem to be, just have more track days put on. Maybe a 600's only day and a 1000's only day etc. But I can't see that happening. If your going to try track days, just pick one track to do, and go there a few times. Your confidence will grow and you will get a better understanding of how it all works and you will get better, the more you do them. I could only image what people thought about me on my first one 🤣
Track days at my local Hampton Downs NZ we have four groups novice for first timers no matter what bike size and speed is controlled by travelling marshals anyone getting to keen is blacked flagged and told to go home and they have 2 briefings during the day, then slow medium, medium fast and race with marshals throughout the groups if anyone is not performing to group speeds they get moved and no sud 600cc in the race group
Thanks for these great videos. At trackday yesterday with that exact problem. Novice group, Lads on bespoke track bikes, while I’m on my SV650. Not nice getting passed by them. Groups by lap timing is the answer. Setup draw to fund your GSXR750 rebuild. Winner gets training session with you. We would all buy a ticket.
Hi Neevesy. You were asked how you'd improve the Tuono and I'd like to take that question one step further. If you could make a Frankenstein's monster of a bike taking the engine, chassis, suspension, ethos, looks etc from different bikes... What would you make?
Trackdays here in Sydney (Aus) the organisers have been using transponders for years and they'll give you a tap on the shoulder if they want you to move groups.
Best mod i did to mine (apart from the gabro remap and exhaust) was installing a brembo rcs17 corsa corta. Greatly improves brake feel! Other good changes were removing the exhaust servo and carbon canister which block the radiator and cause overheating.
Could not agree with you more on the Tuono. For the road it is still the best. I have the standard version which has the same engine ,frame and brakes but is a little more road friendly with higher bars, a more protective fairing and screen and a pillion seat with a useful grab bar. It is by far the best bike I have ever owned and I have been riding since the late 70's. I have had FZR's, YZF's, GSXR's, ZXR's, an RC30, an 851 Ducati and a ton of other bikes over the years [decades]. The engine is easily the best sounding on the market and the way it delivers it's power and corners is just sublime. And in my eyes it easily looks the best. The others look a little plasticky in comparison and don't get me started on that hideous front headlight setup on the new KTM SuperDuke. Anyway mate thanks for another great video. Keep em coming.
The track day question is a proper pickle. I worked my way up to the bottom of the fast group over 20+ track days in the uk and Europe with various bikes with different hp. My last track bike was a gen 2 s1000rr. Obviously anyone should ride whatever they like but jumping on a new ish 1000 and then doing your 1st ever track day…. Hmmm I’m not sure that’s the wisest idea and could possibly end up in a bit of a mess! I haven’t been on track for over a year so a bit out of the loop 🤷♂️
As an owner of a current generation Tuono V4, much of the nit-picks and criticisms voiced when compared to its competitors can be addressed via aftermarket options. Don't ask me how I know haha I would say the way Aprilia can improve the Tuono is by making it even more of a value via enhancements (e.g., more efficient engine) and new features (e.g., heated grips) while maintaining the current price. It's such a good platform for the money that it wouldn't take much to keep it a strong competitor.
Neevesy: Really enjoy your videos, and have watched your answers to track questions with great interest. Wanted to get your thoughts on a couple things. First, faster and slower bikes mixing: My experience is limited, but seems to me that the big "traffic" issue IRL is less about the ultimate cornering performance of (say) an S1000RR vs. an SV650 than it is inexperienced riders who can't come close to max cornering on the S1K--braking super early, taking poor lines, tiptoeing through, and accelerating late--nonetheless hammering it on every straight (aided by TC and wheelie control). As the inexperienced guy on the liter bike, my personal rule (one I think should perhaps be universal?) is very simple: If I've been passed by a rider who obviously has more corner pace, I don't re-pass that rider. Anybody can open a throttle; I'd rather hang behind and learn what I can. Second, track day formats: My preferred track runs two groups, A and B, on Saturday. Two sessions per hour instead of three. Yes, it means more skill differential on track, but it also means more track time for everyone, proportionally fewer out laps, less hurrying, and fewer people on track at any given moment. Then, on Sunday, it's one big open session (with a lunch break). Everybody runs together. Sounds like chaos, right? It's not. Because there's so much more time available, fewer bikes are out at once. The fast people get through the slows with no problem and clear off. Passing is polite. Having experienced a more "traditional" setup at a different track, it's striking to me how well this works in practice--and how few accidents there are in comparison. That said, there may be some issues that allow this to work: 1) Fairly tight track with a relatively short straight (best riders on fastest bikes hitting 140mph), no terrain, excellent visibility; 2) Track is relatively isolated and seems to draw a more serious and experienced crowd--fewer squids. Price may be a factor: maybe 30% more expensive (but very worth it, IMO), and anyone who's new to the track has to take a half-day of very good instruction. Sorry for the long comment/question.
Having bought a 22 year Model Tuono based on your reviews and passion for the bike I thought this was a very interesting question regarding how it can be improved, living in Perth, Aus I wish they could figure out the overheating issue and some easier to navigate switchgear would also be nice, lastly if they want to put the 1100 motor out of the RSV4 in the next Gen I think I’d be calling up my local dealer. Great content as always mate…
At Phillip Island we have 4 groups separated by lap times, White (slowest novice) Yellow (slow medium) Green (medium fast) Red (fast) Yellow is mostly sports bikes and nakeds and green + is all sports modified with track trim and slicks
Great answers to the questions. I enjoyed that. Not sure what your hearing loss is but I have a hearing problem( caused by old age 71 and I expects riding Goldies and other such things in the 60’s. I used a Signia bud type hearing aids. They are great, send your music and phone calls through them.
Hi Michael - great videos, excellent presentation, interesting content (most of the time..!). Many thanks for it. If I am not mistaken, I notice an R10 Alpinestars on the rack behind you. I am tempted in spite of the price tag, and -besides all else which I am sure will be great- I wanted to check with you the noise level in various road riding conditions, especially with respect to wind noise. Help please if possible either in public or private and keep the videos regular Best Al
100% agree I am a novice motorcross rider and its much easier as everyone in the novice class are all learning aside form the few idiots who join just to show off!!
Thanks as always Michael! Great insight. Question, what’s your opinion on the riding tips video “Twist of the Wrist ii” by Keith Code? It’s on RUclips and has a book as well if you don’t know what it is, an early 2000’s advanced riding technique video. It’s helped me so much with my riding, but some say it no longer holds up. Thank you!
Hi Neevsey. Going on from your costs of journalism, quick question...what would you say was the best freebie you've had as a journo and what's the best motorcycling item you've purchased with your hard earned wongo? Keep up the excellent work 👍🏻
It's a great pleasure to watch your videos and please don't stop making them. Just a question actually, what are your thoughts on small bore 4 cylinders, like the zxr400, cbr400rr or fzr400rr sp? I have been thinking of buying one as a weekender and a track toy, so wanted to know your opinion.
I don't think any one answer would fit, for how td groups should be set out. In the early 2000's, supermoto's started to turn up at the smaller tracks, Cadwell, mallory etc. The closing speed was off the chart, then they carry all the corner speed. Even back then a supermoto group was talked about. It never happened. The only way it will, is if people stop going to them and the organisers have to create something to get people back to them. Less than 100 bhp group could be one way. Road bike only days have been tried, then it just ended up full of track specials. All of it will only be as good as the people setting the groups and making sure it's stuck to. The interesting one I've seen recently, was the classics only days that 44teeth attended.
Enjoyed this Q&A as always. Your passion for the GSXR750, The Aprilia Tuono and Yamaha T-max are clear are there any other bikes you love as much as these 3? I have to mention like you I will never own a tall rounder or adventure bike because of noisy screens. I had a Versys 1000 for only a few months and just couldn't cope with the noise from the screen and had to sell it. I also tested a Triumph Tiger sport 660 and the screen noise was the biggest reason I didn't buy it. I'm surprised more testers don't notice this.
Hi neeves!!! Josh from spain once again! Just a quicky. I am torn between the new rsv4 (non factory) Vs the zx10 R (not RR). Key things: reliability, power ( I understand that the v4 might pack a a bigger punch) but what about the upper rpm? I do road/trackdays in Spanish countryside if you know what i mean.. i have experience riding 1000cc but i would like to buy something new and it's very difficult since the famous aprilia has the technical gremlins... Or maybe not. (Shame no new gsxr have been released otherwise for me thats a no brainer... Loved the l7 l8 and so on really Torquey...) Cheers once again.
Hi Neevsey. Love the content & your words of wisdom, keep up the great work. Here's a question you have never been asked before. I've recently imported some 90s bikes from Japan, two of them are a couple of the "Zane " Laverdas from the mid to late 90s. A ghost 668 & the fully faired water cooled 750S. At the time of release I lived back in my native Scotland & remember the terrible reputation these got along with numerous engine & electrical woes. I got the pair pretty cheap & have found them both reliable & huge fun, both have the best suspension & brakes around at the time. I realise this is before you joined mcn but wondering if you have any experience riding these back in the day? Cheers Andy, Melbourne AU
Great video as always. I have a tire question. Been meaning to get new tires for my v4 Tuono - mostly street riding with an occasional track day every now and then. It has become a bit hard to compare the options - when watching reviews, every model has great grip, great flickability etc, which I dont doubt. However, I would like to hear what sets them apart. I am interested mainly in Rosso Corsa 2 and 4, Michelin Power 5/6, Bridgestone S22s, that kind of category if it makes sense. Maybe others too if you can elaborate. Thank you!
I have not ridden with the rosso corsa 2, but have with the power 5 and s22. For me it is more about the feel they give me. The carcass from the power 5 is alot softer then the s22 wich gives you a plusher ride on the road but gave me less feedback on track. Hopes this helps.
For the Tuono: Design a proper mechanism for the rear seat cover/pillion seat. They are known to fly off on their own so there’s no way I can strap a Kreiga to it when I’m commuting to work. I have the harness for it but I can’t trust it. While you are at it, give us a little space for storing something, even if it’s a little. Lacquer the decals so. That it feels less cheap. Especially for the factory. Add heated grips and sort out the switch gear. It’s a mess. The dash is ok but the menu system is awful. Why do we have to have a chain that has only 20mm of movement (top run) when properly adjusted? It feels like a guitar string and messes with my head.
Recent subscriber, loving the chat. I’ve just bought a KTM RC 390 for track use here in the UK. I checked with a couple of organisers before buying that it would be acceptable and got the nod. I was warned about closing speed by one though so the problem is known. I’ve done loads of track days in Spain and was a fast intermediate group guy on my D675 a few years back. Want to get on track again and the KTM is a very cheap, very accessible way to do it I thought. Is the RC 390 and the hazard of inexperienced riders too big a risk in your opinion? I know what UK track days can be like (especially compared with Spain), I plan to keep myself out of trouble!
If ur not confident on a bike u should get training first before doing a normal trackday and b told to just simply hold a line into a corner and then it's the job of the faster rider to get round and make sure there is safe distance to do the move
Anyone who is pushing top of inters and into fast groups should have the experience and ability to be able to deal with other riders who have less experience or who are on slower machinery. They are the ones who should be setting the example to everyone else on track etiquette. The main danger on track is when people ride above their ability or start taking unnecessary risks when overtaking, but thankfully this is a rare occurrence. Anyone with less track experience should aim to be the rider they want to ride with, we all know those people who are fun and safe to ride with, try to be that person and you can’t go far wrong.
Great "podcast" as usual. Thank you very much for the time you spend doing these! I have a Monster 821 (stock, Showa non-adjustable suspension) and I love riding in the twisties, but I was considering the 1200S just to have the superior adjustable suspension. I do mostly street riding on the mountains, I don't really care much about the extra power to be honest, but if the handling gets better, I'm up for it! I was considering upgrading my 821's suspension, but to be fair, the cost of the upgrade I can just get the 1200S, and have a more valuable bike for the future. What's your opinion on premium suspension for road riding? Or is it only worth if you trackday often?
Hi Michael, thanks for all the great content as always. My question is regarding the Triumph Speed triple RR. I read in the recent MCN that it is going to be discontinued and there are several in dealers with loads of money off. Since this bike has been a bit of a flop, do you think it could be a future investment and be worth keeping for a few years if you could get a really good deal on a nearly new / used bargain? Cheers, Dave.
Hi Neevesy, love the vids! I have a question about helmets! I have an AGV K5S for the track at the minute since i damaged my last arai after a highside, however I'm having awful trouble seeing out of it when tucked and leaning! Its so bad at full lean I struggle to see the apex and end up with a sore neck, which really doesnt help my riding, what helmets would you recommend for racing? not looking to spend a fortune on one but need a much higher field of view! Thanks
Thanks for your efforts with your channel. What’s your opinion on carbon fiber wheels for a dedicated track bike? I have a 2020 S1000RR M-Sport which came with factory carbon fiber wheels. After crashing the bike, I converted it to a full time track bike but quite a few of the serious racing types have told me I’d be better off with forged wheels. Even though I’m now in the fastest group, I’m not a racer so I listen to the advice of those who are, but I am yet to hear a reason why I should spend another $4k on wheels.
Hi Neevsey. Greetings from the Pacific Northwest. Me and some buddies are planning a motorcycle trip through Italy on Ducati Multistradas. My question is how do you travel with your helmet on the airlines without it getting damaged? Since you travel to lots of launches around the world I'm hoping you have developed a good system. Thanks!
GSX S750 Question if you dont mind pal. Finished paying for my 2021 s750 and looking at my next bike. I love the s750 so much as can really use it on the roads. Thinking of upgrading to the GSX S1000 as its such a bargain but not sure if i like it as much as the 750. 1000 is same weight just an extra 40bhp and a quick shifter. Will i love the 1000 as much as the 750. Had a few rides on the 1000 but not long enough with it yet to make my mind up. mans torn lol
hi,,, with regards to modern day electronics,,I own an M1000r , I cant clutch up wheelie but the m1000 pops the front wheel for fun on the power without even trying as you likely know,, my question is can I rely on the anti wheelie to hold the from wheel at a height or is it still likely to flip,, I cover the rear brake just in case but I don't really have the confidence or knowledge to lean on or trust the electronics,,,cant I trust the electronics?? awesome channel by the way with real world advice
Hi Neevesy. This is a question following on from your body position answer and also how fast riders are good at standing the bike up. So, could you explain the techniques for standing the bike up out of the corner to improve lap times? Cheers James
Morning Neevsey love your videos can always learn something. Could you put your input on wether to use dot 5 or 10 fuel in our loved ones as i hear so much bs on this subject 🏁
The Tuono would benefit from significantly better fuel economy, where it's noticably much thirstier than its rivals --- even when cruising and slabbing --- and concomitantly slightly larger fuel tank.
Improving fuel ecconomy would involve major engine development/redesign. What would be the best way/s.. Reduce displacement, add a Shiftcam, spark cut 2 cylinders when not under load and go open loop dual lambda AFR?
I don't think it's bad at all to be honest. My buddy with his speed 1200rs runs out before me every time, good thing about the tuono having a slightly larger tank
Surely nobody buys a Tuono for its fuel economy? I’ve got a Morini Corsaro 1200. Had it 10 years. There’s a little light comes on and I fill it up with petrol. I know roughly what it does to the gallon and roughly what mileage I can get out of it between fill-ups. If I was bothered about fuel range and economy I wouldn’t have bought a Corsaro.
It'd be nicer if you knew what you were talking about. The MT-10 has worse fuel economy in every aspect. And that's the new one with the slightly longer gearing not the older MT. As stated, the V4 Street Fighter is quite a pig, too. Furthermore, on the slab I've gotten 170 miles at 60 MPH out of a tank on a '17 TV4. While that's not great, it's respectable. To your point I have gotten as low as 110 miles out of a tank. For the earlier V4 1000s it's even worse.
they have less self discharge and are much much lighter, the only thing they don’t like is cold temperatures so you might have issues with starting in winter if that’s your thing. i’ve got LION on both of my bikes since 6 years and no issues.
Would it be worth Aprilia fitting the rsv4 motor and forged wheels to make a Tuono Factory R model? I'm fitting the rsv4 airbox and titanium headers to my Tuono this winter, just for fun really haha.
Hey Neevesy thanks for the great videos!, i’m really enjoying them!.. I need a bit of tyre advice. Almost every year I take my bike on some sort of long trip / vacation. And besides that, I also do the occasional track day or two per year.(always in the fast beginner groups). I currently have Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3 tyres on my 2018 Ducati Supersport S, A bike as versatile as my type of riding is. But they need replacing soon. do you think these tires are right ones for me? Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Hello from Texas. WHY IS THE SPEED TRIPLE 1200 RS THE FORGOTTEN SUPER NAKED? It seems to always get left out of the discussion and never invited to comparo's. I'm SICK of it.
First bike,hoping to get a triumph Street triple rs,have 40 years motocross background, dis make it to experts but dont want to presume anything, would that be a good first road bike? Thanks love your work
many wants to upgrade bike, but 99% cant lean more than 30 degree. me to. i sale expensive bike and buy cheap k5 1000. rest of money will invest in my riding skills.
In my experience on track days, people just need to be honest with themselves 😅 why anyone is too proud to go in the novice group if they’re not intermediate level is beyond me, also people that should be in the advanced group would rather be inters heroes is annoying as hell. The safest group I find is the advanced group once you’re a good intermediate level.
The best way to not be disappointed with your Tuono is to get an RSV4 more comfortable better fuel economy sounds better more power than youll ever need also better value for money
Do motorcyclists, or maybe just youtube viewers, have trust issues? Noticed a number of questions on bike review bias, manufacturer and publisher arrangements and product sweet heart deals. To finally put this to bed can you please do a feature length special on your expense claims forms, 2014 to 2024, receipts included?
Nah, don't need to split track days by bike performance. It's actually quite easy not to be an idiot and drive in a proper manner. Instead, increase the punishment of people who fail to abide by track rules. The "fast boi" knows when he is bullying and scaring the slower ones, just as the dangerously unskilled rider also knows that he is attempting a maneuver waaay out of his league. They really do know this in their heart of hearts, it's just that society has done away with accountability and dignity.
We all want a Tuono, so stop putting out 457's and fix the service intervals like your Italian cousins have. Just stop throwing a piston through the case and having irritating fuel tank sender fails. Polish the diamond and we will all stand in line with our fresh loans x
Michael, please get a sticker sheet sorted so we can support your channel + GSXR restoration. £5 for an array of sticker sizes of your famous logo - who doesn't love a sticker plus we're supporting one of the very best at the same time. Cheers and thanks for making great videos!
Fantastic idea, had plenty of stickers covering bikes and helmets I had in the 70's😊
@@jaguarskills69 I generally like to try and collect them from places I've been and I put them inside the top box
+1 On the sticker!
Thanks as always Neevsey. For the Tuono - here are the changes I would make to my E5 Factory
1. Add more rider programmable modes
2. Add engine power modes - not just throttle maps
3. Use nuts and bolts that are more robust and less likely to round out
4. Change pre-load adjustment ease for the forks - right now it's a right pain the arse
5. Stylemas and not M50's
6. Forged wheels as a factory option rather than having to buy a whole new set
7. Heated grips
8. Better windscreen - closer to the RSV4 style and coverage
9. Better plastics and paint finishes
10. Second radiator fan
I could add more but then again the point is I love my bike - like a second glance each time level of love!
Track days by lap time make sense else there will need to be 10-12 different groups of bike size, "skill" combos. Reality is - as an amateur on on my bike I am likely to be slower down a straight than a 600 or even smaller bike because I lack the skill or the bravery to go full throttle early enough. Same thing entering and through the apex of corners with trail braking etc. In most situations the rapid closing distances are predicated by skill - which is on average predicted by lap times. Of course there are exceptions but I see this as the lesser of the evils.
I think track days will be best served by managing for etiquette and sporting behaviours. Even in a situation where two similar bikes with similarly skilled riders try to occupy the same piece of asphalt, bad things happen if both have taken the Senna quote too literally.
Just adding a comment to show engagement for the RUclips algorithm. Keep up the great work!
Best thing you can do for the Tuono is fit the forged RSV4 factory wheels (10 spokes) as the tuono factorys still come with the heavier wheels youd find on a RSV4RR. Also a good free modification is to remove the riser block for the handlebars and rotate it 180° as it is offset, so you can move your weight slightly forward on the bike which makes it feel more 'nosey'.
There’s barely any difference in weight from stock & the forged, I weighed them, I have them fitted to mine & can’t tell any difference,
I've fitted a set of factory forged wheels to my old GSXR 1000 K4. Love 'em! And a damn sight cheaper than Dymags, Marchesini, etc - lighter than most of them too!
The forged ”gold” wheels vork nice and looks good on my 2022 black tunnor factory😉
Dahn in Sweden
I've just bought the rsv4 forged wheels. Going to paint them Tuono red (not a fan of the pink/red anodized colour)!
As a '17 Tuono Factory owner and someone who works on thier own bikes a lot, the biggest thing I would improve with Aprillia is their build quality, there is way too much variation from bike to bike, and reliability isn't the greatest.
21:55 I love how you can see the genuine happiness in you. Glad to see after all these years you still know how lucky you are. Actually, lucky probably isnt the right word, you've worked for it and you're damn good at it. Probably the best bike reviewer I've seen, there are some who may be a bit funnier, some that are a bit nerdier, some that are proper professional racers but you sir, you mix all of these perfectly. Thank you for all your content :)
I remember a track day at Rockingham, where the “novice” group had beginners riding touring bikes mixed with very experienced riders on racing superbikes with track fairings and tyre warmers. Needless to say it was carnage and ended in the air ambulance picking up some very hurt riders. I left by lunchtime as so many dangerous moments. Reckless by the event organisers looking to sell slots in groups no matter the danger.
I remember at Donington, mid 2000's pit lane exit marshal was stopping people going out, as the organiser had over sold the event so badly. That not everyone could go on track at the same time (people had paid).
Had similar at Cadwell - us novices had a load of Honda Hornet racers on slicks testing for the weekends race meet - I was scared the whole time
Brought my 2019 Tuono factory after your RUclips review where you said you would marry it 3 years later and still absolutely love it had no issues with it been on track and road had it re mapped purely just to smooth out the fueling low down now it’s perfect hope to see you get one after the 750
I’ve replaced the stock wheels of my Tuono with carbon ones from Rotobox. Makes the bike more agile through corners. I would recommend doing that (carbon or forged ones).
Hi Neevesy, thanks for answering my question. 🙂🇬🇧
About the very noisy screens on adventure bikes: when I rent an adventure-style bike on holiday, I ask the rental agency to simply remove the screen altogether.
Hi buddy, love these Q&A. I do trackdays with MSV. As they do novice track days and road bike only trackdays, as we care about our bikes more.
Keep up the great work.👍🏼
As you say, the best way, if still imperfect, is to use transponders and rebalance the groups by times. Almost all operators here in Spain do this. In the UK, they could just not publish the times to avoid the insurance companies considering the event to be a race or time trial.
I would love for the answer for the track day problem to be, just have more track days put on. Maybe a 600's only day and a 1000's only day etc. But I can't see that happening. If your going to try track days, just pick one track to do, and go there a few times. Your confidence will grow and you will get a better understanding of how it all works and you will get better, the more you do them. I could only image what people thought about me on my first one 🤣
Track days at my local Hampton Downs NZ we have four groups novice for first timers no matter what bike size and speed is controlled by travelling marshals anyone getting to keen is blacked flagged and told to go home and they have 2 briefings during the day, then slow medium, medium fast and race with marshals throughout the groups if anyone is not performing to group speeds they get moved and no sud 600cc in the race group
Thanks for these great videos. At trackday yesterday with that exact problem. Novice group, Lads on bespoke track bikes, while I’m on my SV650. Not nice getting passed by them. Groups by lap timing is the answer.
Setup draw to fund your GSXR750 rebuild. Winner gets training session with you. We would all buy a ticket.
My 👍 as well as comment are well deserved for your incredible quality work, mate 🙏
Hi Neevesy. You were asked how you'd improve the Tuono and I'd like to take that question one step further. If you could make a Frankenstein's monster of a bike taking the engine, chassis, suspension, ethos, looks etc from different bikes... What would you make?
Trackdays here in Sydney (Aus) the organisers have been using transponders for years and they'll give you a tap on the shoulder if they want you to move groups.
Another quality vlog mate 🙏🏽👍🏽😎 , always great chilled out viewing . Thank you .
Great T-shirt 👍
Best mod i did to mine (apart from the gabro remap and exhaust) was installing a brembo rcs17 corsa corta. Greatly improves brake feel!
Other good changes were removing the exhaust servo and carbon canister which block the radiator and cause overheating.
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The best on planet earth…
Just a shame there are no Girls on this Film?
Could not agree with you more on the Tuono. For the road it is still the best. I have the standard version which has the same engine ,frame and brakes but is a little more road friendly with higher bars, a more protective fairing and screen and a pillion seat with a useful grab bar. It is by far the best bike I have ever owned and I have been riding since the late 70's. I have had FZR's, YZF's, GSXR's, ZXR's, an RC30, an 851 Ducati and a ton of other bikes over the years [decades]. The engine is easily the best sounding on the market and the way it delivers it's power and corners is just sublime. And in my eyes it easily looks the best. The others look a little plasticky in comparison and don't get me started on that hideous front headlight setup on the new KTM SuperDuke. Anyway mate thanks for another great video. Keep em coming.
The track day question is a proper pickle. I worked my way up to the bottom of the fast group over 20+ track days in the uk and Europe with various bikes with different hp. My last track bike was a gen 2 s1000rr. Obviously anyone should ride whatever they like but jumping on a new ish 1000 and then doing your 1st ever track day…. Hmmm I’m not sure that’s the wisest idea and could possibly end up in a bit of a mess! I haven’t been on track for over a year so a bit out of the loop 🤷♂️
As an owner of a current generation Tuono V4, much of the nit-picks and criticisms voiced when compared to its competitors can be addressed via aftermarket options. Don't ask me how I know haha
I would say the way Aprilia can improve the Tuono is by making it even more of a value via enhancements (e.g., more efficient engine) and new features (e.g., heated grips) while maintaining the current price.
It's such a good platform for the money that it wouldn't take much to keep it a strong competitor.
Neevesy: Really enjoy your videos, and have watched your answers to track questions with great interest. Wanted to get your thoughts on a couple things. First, faster and slower bikes mixing: My experience is limited, but seems to me that the big "traffic" issue IRL is less about the ultimate cornering performance of (say) an S1000RR vs. an SV650 than it is inexperienced riders who can't come close to max cornering on the S1K--braking super early, taking poor lines, tiptoeing through, and accelerating late--nonetheless hammering it on every straight (aided by TC and wheelie control). As the inexperienced guy on the liter bike, my personal rule (one I think should perhaps be universal?) is very simple: If I've been passed by a rider who obviously has more corner pace, I don't re-pass that rider. Anybody can open a throttle; I'd rather hang behind and learn what I can.
Second, track day formats: My preferred track runs two groups, A and B, on Saturday. Two sessions per hour instead of three. Yes, it means more skill differential on track, but it also means more track time for everyone, proportionally fewer out laps, less hurrying, and fewer people on track at any given moment. Then, on Sunday, it's one big open session (with a lunch break). Everybody runs together. Sounds like chaos, right? It's not. Because there's so much more time available, fewer bikes are out at once. The fast people get through the slows with no problem and clear off. Passing is polite. Having experienced a more "traditional" setup at a different track, it's striking to me how well this works in practice--and how few accidents there are in comparison.
That said, there may be some issues that allow this to work: 1) Fairly tight track with a relatively short straight (best riders on fastest bikes hitting 140mph), no terrain, excellent visibility; 2) Track is relatively isolated and seems to draw a more serious and experienced crowd--fewer squids. Price may be a factor: maybe 30% more expensive (but very worth it, IMO), and anyone who's new to the track has to take a half-day of very good instruction. Sorry for the long comment/question.
I’m just back from Portamoa with No Limits, they have a tag that goes on your bike and records live timings which was a good idea.
Having bought a 22 year Model Tuono based on your reviews and passion for the bike I thought this was a very interesting question regarding how it can be improved, living in Perth, Aus I wish they could figure out the overheating issue and some easier to navigate switchgear would also be nice, lastly if they want to put the 1100 motor out of the RSV4 in the next Gen I think I’d be calling up my local dealer. Great content as always mate…
At Phillip Island we have 4 groups separated by lap times,
White (slowest novice)
Yellow (slow medium)
Green (medium fast)
Red (fast)
Yellow is mostly sports bikes and nakeds and green + is all sports modified with track trim and slicks
All the fatalities I know of at the local tracks were collisions, faster rider ramming a slower rider...
Great answers to the questions. I enjoyed that. Not sure what your hearing loss is but I have a hearing problem( caused by old age 71 and I expects riding Goldies and other such things in the 60’s. I used a Signia bud type hearing aids. They are great, send your music and phone calls through them.
Hi Michael - great videos, excellent presentation, interesting content (most of the time..!). Many thanks for it. If I am not mistaken, I notice an R10 Alpinestars on the rack behind you. I am tempted in spite of the price tag, and -besides all else which I am sure will be great- I wanted to check with you the noise level in various road riding conditions, especially with respect to wind noise. Help please if possible either in public or private and keep the videos regular
Best Al
Incredible sound. Incredible front end. The Tuono. Not neevesy. No offence Mike 😂
100% agree I am a novice motorcross rider and its much easier as everyone in the novice class are all learning aside form the few idiots who join just to show off!!
Thanks as always Michael! Great insight. Question, what’s your opinion on the riding tips video “Twist of the Wrist ii” by Keith Code? It’s on RUclips and has a book as well if you don’t know what it is, an early 2000’s advanced riding technique video. It’s helped me so much with my riding, but some say it no longer holds up. Thank you!
Hi Neevsey. Going on from your costs of journalism, quick question...what would you say was the best freebie you've had as a journo and what's the best motorcycling item you've purchased with your hard earned wongo? Keep up the excellent work 👍🏻
It's a great pleasure to watch your videos and please don't stop making them. Just a question actually, what are your thoughts on small bore 4 cylinders, like the zxr400, cbr400rr or fzr400rr sp? I have been thinking of buying one as a weekender and a track toy, so wanted to know your opinion.
They are fantastic. Top out about 130mph will kill any bigger bike's in the bends.
You will learn how to ride on them. ✌
Fantastic if you’re handy with carbs and a wrench. Parts are hard to find but if I was going that route my favorites are the NC30 and NC45 VFR400R
I don't think any one answer would fit, for how td groups should be set out. In the early 2000's, supermoto's started to turn up at the smaller tracks, Cadwell, mallory etc. The closing speed was off the chart, then they carry all the corner speed. Even back then a supermoto group was talked about. It never happened. The only way it will, is if people stop going to them and the organisers have to create something to get people back to them. Less than 100 bhp group could be one way. Road bike only days have been tried, then it just ended up full of track specials. All of it will only be as good as the people setting the groups and making sure it's stuck to. The interesting one I've seen recently, was the classics only days that 44teeth attended.
Great stuff. Totally get the noise issue. 👍
Just posted yesterday my Tuono for sale after very joyful 2.5 years. Had a great time with it but time to move on.
Knowing wet and kerb weight (full tank) is useful… bikes have different size tanks so knowing the delta allows a better comparison between bikes.
Enjoyed this Q&A as always. Your passion for the GSXR750, The Aprilia Tuono and Yamaha T-max are clear are there any other bikes you love as much as these 3? I have to mention like you I will never own a tall rounder or adventure bike because of noisy screens. I had a Versys 1000 for only a few months and just couldn't cope with the noise from the screen and had to sell it. I also tested a Triumph Tiger sport 660 and the screen noise was the biggest reason I didn't buy it. I'm surprised more testers don't notice this.
Great video good range of questions.
I think a sub 120hp and above 120hp would be a sensible split
Hi neeves!!!
Josh from spain once again!
Just a quicky. I am torn between the new rsv4 (non factory) Vs the zx10 R (not RR).
Key things: reliability, power ( I understand that the v4 might pack a a bigger punch) but what about the upper rpm?
I do road/trackdays in Spanish countryside if you know what i mean.. i have experience riding 1000cc but i would like to buy something new and it's very difficult since the famous aprilia has the technical gremlins... Or maybe not.
(Shame no new gsxr have been released otherwise for me thats a no brainer... Loved the l7 l8 and so on really Torquey...)
Cheers once again.
Best and cheapest way to improve is to lower The front by rising The front forks about 3mm for easier turn in.
Hi Neevsey. Love the content & your words of wisdom, keep up the great work. Here's a question you have never been asked before. I've recently imported some 90s bikes from Japan, two of them are a couple of the "Zane " Laverdas from the mid to late 90s. A ghost 668 & the fully faired water cooled 750S. At the time of release I lived back in my native Scotland & remember the terrible reputation these got along with numerous engine & electrical woes. I got the pair pretty cheap & have found them both reliable & huge fun, both have the best suspension & brakes around at the time. I realise this is before you joined mcn but wondering if you have any experience riding these back in the day?
Cheers Andy, Melbourne AU
Great video as always. I have a tire question. Been meaning to get new tires for my v4 Tuono - mostly street riding with an occasional track day every now and then. It has become a bit hard to compare the options - when watching reviews, every model has great grip, great flickability etc, which I dont doubt. However, I would like to hear what sets them apart. I am interested mainly in Rosso Corsa 2 and 4, Michelin Power 5/6, Bridgestone S22s, that kind of category if it makes sense. Maybe others too if you can elaborate. Thank you!
I have not ridden with the rosso corsa 2, but have with the power 5 and s22. For me it is more about the feel they give me. The carcass from the power 5 is alot softer then the s22 wich gives you a plusher ride on the road but gave me less feedback on track. Hopes this helps.
7:13 159 bhp, interesting 🧐 i just put a track RC8R on the dyno and it got 155, great for a big twin.
For the Tuono:
Design a proper mechanism for the rear seat cover/pillion seat. They are known to fly off on their own so there’s no way I can strap a Kreiga to it when I’m commuting to work. I have the harness for it but I can’t trust it.
While you are at it, give us a little space for storing something, even if it’s a little.
Lacquer the decals so. That it feels less cheap. Especially for the factory.
Add heated grips and sort out the switch gear. It’s a mess.
The dash is ok but the menu system is awful.
Why do we have to have a chain that has only 20mm of movement (top run) when properly adjusted? It feels like a guitar string and messes with my head.
Recent subscriber, loving the chat. I’ve just bought a KTM RC 390 for track use here in the UK. I checked with a couple of organisers before buying that it would be acceptable and got the nod. I was warned about closing speed by one though so the problem is known.
I’ve done loads of track days in Spain and was a fast intermediate group guy on my D675 a few years back. Want to get on track again and the KTM is a very cheap, very accessible way to do it I thought.
Is the RC 390 and the hazard of inexperienced riders too big a risk in your opinion?
I know what UK track days can be like (especially compared with Spain), I plan to keep myself out of trouble!
If ur not confident on a bike u should get training first before doing a normal trackday and b told to just simply hold a line into a corner and then it's the job of the faster rider to get round and make sure there is safe distance to do the move
You have stated many times you hate the Tracer 900 screen so much. Don't be coy Roy!
Anyone who is pushing top of inters and into fast groups should have the experience and ability to be able to deal with other riders who have less experience or who are on slower machinery. They are the ones who should be setting the example to everyone else on track etiquette.
The main danger on track is when people ride above their ability or start taking unnecessary risks when overtaking, but thankfully this is a rare occurrence.
Anyone with less track experience should aim to be the rider they want to ride with, we all know those people who are fun and safe to ride with, try to be that person and you can’t go far wrong.
Yes trackdays should be categories 1000 cc 600çc 650cc twins etc that should of been committed 20 years ago now
Great "podcast" as usual. Thank you very much for the time you spend doing these!
I have a Monster 821 (stock, Showa non-adjustable suspension) and I love riding in the twisties, but I was considering the 1200S just to have the superior adjustable suspension. I do mostly street riding on the mountains, I don't really care much about the extra power to be honest, but if the handling gets better, I'm up for it! I was considering upgrading my 821's suspension, but to be fair, the cost of the upgrade I can just get the 1200S, and have a more valuable bike for the future.
What's your opinion on premium suspension for road riding? Or is it only worth if you trackday often?
It’s EASY.
Have 1000cc track days.
1000cc novice
1000cc Inters
1000cc Fast group
Have 600cc track days.
600cc novice
600cc Inters
Etc etc etc.
Hi Michael, thanks for all the great content as always. My question is regarding the Triumph Speed triple RR. I read in the recent MCN that it is going to be discontinued and there are several in dealers with loads of money off. Since this bike has been a bit of a flop, do you think it could be a future investment and be worth keeping for a few years if you could get a really good deal on a nearly new / used bargain? Cheers, Dave.
Hi Neevesy, love the vids! I have a question about helmets!
I have an AGV K5S for the track at the minute since i damaged my last arai after a highside, however I'm having awful trouble seeing out of it when tucked and leaning! Its so bad at full lean I struggle to see the apex and end up with a sore neck, which really doesnt help my riding, what helmets would you recommend for racing? not looking to spend a fortune on one but need a much higher field of view! Thanks
So, if Al ever gets his K5 sorted at JMS, you will have to do a group test with his vs yours.
Thanks for your efforts with your channel. What’s your opinion on carbon fiber wheels for a dedicated track bike? I have a 2020 S1000RR M-Sport which came with factory carbon fiber wheels. After crashing the bike, I converted it to a full time track bike but quite a few of the serious racing types have told me I’d be better off with forged wheels. Even though I’m now in the fastest group, I’m not a racer so I listen to the advice of those who are, but I am yet to hear a reason why I should spend another $4k on wheels.
@29:04 should we be thinking the new 'onda Transalp here Mick?
Hi Neevsey. Greetings from the Pacific Northwest. Me and some buddies are planning a motorcycle trip through Italy on Ducati Multistradas. My question is how do you travel with your helmet on the airlines without it getting damaged? Since you travel to lots of launches around the world I'm hoping you have developed a good system. Thanks!
GSX S750 Question if you dont mind pal. Finished paying for my 2021 s750 and looking at my next bike. I love the s750 so much as can really use it on the roads. Thinking of upgrading to the GSX S1000 as its such a bargain but not sure if i like it as much as the 750. 1000 is same weight just an extra 40bhp and a quick shifter. Will i love the 1000 as much as the 750. Had a few rides on the 1000 but not long enough with it yet to make my mind up. mans torn lol
hi,,, with regards to modern day electronics,,I own an M1000r , I cant clutch up wheelie but the m1000 pops the front wheel for fun on the power without even trying as you likely know,, my question is can I rely on the anti wheelie to hold the from wheel at a height or is it still likely to flip,, I cover the rear brake just in case but I don't really have the confidence or knowledge to lean on or trust the electronics,,,cant I trust the electronics??
awesome channel by the way with real world advice
Hi Neevesy. This is a question following on from your body position answer and also how fast riders are good at standing the bike up. So, could you explain the techniques for standing the bike up out of the corner to improve lap times? Cheers James
Morning Neevsey love your videos can always learn something. Could you put your input on wether to use dot 5 or 10 fuel in our loved ones as i hear so much bs on this subject 🏁
The Tuono would benefit from significantly better fuel economy, where it's noticably much thirstier than its rivals --- even when cruising and slabbing --- and concomitantly slightly larger fuel tank.
It can't be worse than my V4 Streetfighter; 10L/100km regardless of how much you baby it.
Improving fuel ecconomy would involve major engine development/redesign.
What would be the best way/s.. Reduce displacement, add a Shiftcam, spark cut 2 cylinders when not under load and go open loop dual lambda AFR?
I don't think it's bad at all to be honest. My buddy with his speed 1200rs runs out before me every time, good thing about the tuono having a slightly larger tank
Surely nobody buys a Tuono for its fuel economy? I’ve got a Morini Corsaro 1200. Had it 10 years. There’s a little light comes on and I fill it up with petrol. I know roughly what it does to the gallon and roughly what mileage I can get out of it between fill-ups. If I was bothered about fuel range and economy I wouldn’t have bought a Corsaro.
It'd be nicer if you knew what you were talking about. The MT-10 has worse fuel economy in every aspect. And that's the new one with the slightly longer gearing not the older MT.
As stated, the V4 Street Fighter is quite a pig, too.
Furthermore, on the slab I've gotten 170 miles at 60 MPH out of a tank on a '17 TV4.
While that's not great, it's respectable. To your point I have gotten as low as 110 miles out of a tank. For the earlier V4 1000s it's even worse.
Not a performance item as such, but the Tuono would certainly benefit from heated grips as standard equipment?
Talking about weight, is There any Real Advantage to Swap my Gel Battery to a Lithium on My Road Bike
Do they Last Longer? Thanks
they have less self discharge and are much much lighter, the only thing they don’t like is cold temperatures so you might have issues with starting in winter if that’s your thing. i’ve got LION on both of my bikes since 6 years and no issues.
Thanks Phil 👍
Would it be worth Aprilia fitting the rsv4 motor and forged wheels to make a Tuono Factory R model?
I'm fitting the rsv4 airbox and titanium headers to my Tuono this winter, just for fun really haha.
Hey Neevesy thanks for the great videos!, i’m really enjoying them!..
I need a bit of tyre advice. Almost every year I take my bike on some sort of long trip / vacation. And besides that, I also do the occasional track day or two per year.(always in the fast beginner groups). I currently have Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3 tyres on my 2018 Ducati Supersport S, A bike as versatile as my type of riding is. But they need replacing soon. do you think these tires are right ones for me? Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
I’m not on your question list this week but what do you think of MotoGP going to 850 cc?
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Track etiquette and predictability would be my concern mixing experienced and novice level riders.
Shoei does many great things......just not in the US of A. I wear a RF-SR and paid Shoei $50 extra to make it fit.
Hello from Texas. WHY IS THE SPEED TRIPLE 1200 RS THE FORGOTTEN SUPER NAKED? It seems to always get left out of the discussion and never invited to comparo's. I'm SICK of it.
First bike,hoping to get a triumph Street triple rs,have 40 years motocross background, dis make it to experts but dont want to presume anything, would that be a good first road bike? Thanks love your work
Bad bikes for screen turbulence... Sounds like you're talking about the Yamaha Tracer 9!
many wants to upgrade bike, but 99% cant lean more than 30 degree. me to. i sale expensive bike and buy cheap k5 1000. rest of money will invest in my riding skills.
Where can i find the mcn supernaked shootout, You say it was a month ago?
You can find all the back issues on the MCN app 😊👍
Great vid again Neevesy, is your supernaked group test out yet, where would I find it?
Yep, it was in MCN a month or so ago. You can get back issues on the MCN app...
In the 90’s top Superbikes were making 120 - 130 hp. Now they’re 200 and Sportsbikes are nearly dead - coincidence???
In my experience on track days, people just need to be honest with themselves 😅 why anyone is too proud to go in the novice group if they’re not intermediate level is beyond me, also people that should be in the advanced group would rather be inters heroes is annoying as hell. The safest group I find is the advanced group once you’re a good intermediate level.
So.. the guy you had a tangle with on the recent cbr launch.
Was it Bruce Wilson from Fastbikes???
No, it was a French gentleman 😄
The best way to not be disappointed with your Tuono is to get an RSV4 more comfortable better fuel economy sounds better more power than youll ever need also better value for money
How is an rsv4 more comfortable😅
I hope you wouldn't have to give back those 7+ Arai helmets displayed behind you, if you left MCN?
Do motorcyclists, or maybe just youtube viewers, have trust issues? Noticed a number of questions on bike review bias, manufacturer and publisher arrangements and product sweet heart deals. To finally put this to bed can you please do a feature length special on your expense claims forms, 2014 to 2024, receipts included?
The best thing you could do for a tuono is service the fuck out of it with high quality aftermarket gaskets, screws, hoses, and fittings.
Nah, don't need to split track days by bike performance. It's actually quite easy not to be an idiot and drive in a proper manner. Instead, increase the punishment of people who fail to abide by track rules. The "fast boi" knows when he is bullying and scaring the slower ones, just as the dangerously unskilled rider also knows that he is attempting a maneuver waaay out of his league. They really do know this in their heart of hearts, it's just that society has done away with accountability and dignity.
How to improve a aprilia
Buy a Honda 😂
TRACER 9! HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE TRACER 9!
Ref: shitty screens.
We all want a Tuono, so stop putting out 457's and fix the service intervals like your Italian cousins have. Just stop throwing a piston through the case and having irritating fuel tank sender fails. Polish the diamond and we will all stand in line with our fresh loans x