Jackie the Joke Man - why Howard Stern fired him - Opie Radio podcast
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Jackie left the show many times. The last time was the final straw. Jackie quit simple as that
He was greedy!
Exactly. What's this fired shit? What a lie
@@JacaboBlanco yup. He quit showing up. They found someone who’d come in
Jackie wasn't fired, he stopped showing up to work and the show moved on.
He was greedy and left show to force his hand in contract negotiations and it backfired big time. Wanted to take offer after 2 months and was denied.
Came here to say this-Jackie rewriting history here
If they added more radios stations to their syndication, he deserved more money.
ur right ... but howard coulda helped out jackie and his crew in negotiations ... billy west, stuttering john, and jackie said that he never helped them out because he just didn't care ... you could see it in the movie private parts when robin got fired, she expected him to stand by her and he didn't ... that's the type of person he is... we've seen how he's turned his back on plenty of the characters on the show and coworkers he's had over the years ... can't blame for people like jackie and stuttering john of feeling betrayed
@@dirtmike6258 that was a movie and it's mentioned multiple times it wasn't accurate.
There are multiple, MULTIPLE clips out there in the past where Howard discussed his difficulties with Jackie's contract negotiations. There were at least once where Howard gave up money from his own pocket to keep Jackie there. Howard didn't own the radio station and he certainly wasn't responsible for anybody's pay, but he did what he could thru plugs and promotions.
So don't rewrite history just because you don't like Howard. There are these things called facts you should check out first.
Jackie was offered $650,000 in 2001, increasing each year until the end of 2005. Add on all his stand up gigs and the junk he sold, he would've been getting close to $1 million. In 2001. He probably would've doubled his base salary going to Sirius as well. So in the last 20 years, Jackie easily lost himself $20-25 million in earnings. And all he had to do was turn up, goof around and write some jokes for Howard.
It boggles the mind how someone could be so short sighted. At the end of the day his act is telling old jokes
This seems a lot like of “bro math”
@@collin2502 it seems like you're stupid
@@epo299 ego
It was a difficult situation for Jackie because quite frankly, $650K for what he did and on a show that was raking in the dough was insultingly low. The problem was that Howard (who has said this on the air himself) believes that the money that Jackie (and Artie) made working comedy gigs is really part of Jackie's salary. But Jackie (and Artie) have to actually do extra work for that money unlike Howard, Robin and Fred.
The other problem is that Jackie had nowhere else where he would make that type of money.
I'm not saying that Jackie should've left, but I can understand the issues he was having
Jackie wanted more money, the station wouldn't give it to him and he feels Howard could have persuaded them......You made your choice Jackie, time to move on.
Howard could have persuaded them.
@@alwayssunnyinphiladelphia922 BS. Howard doesn't control the radio station budget. By all accounts Jackie was offered a ton of money and he turned it down. He blew it. He thought he was irreplaceable and Artie Lange proved him wrong.
@@robgrant7683 no he doesn't control the radio station's budget but if you don't think Howard had a huge out of power you are clueless.
@@alwayssunnyinphiladelphia922 Obviously you're clueless. The radio station had a budget and Jackie was at the top of the pay scale for that position. He demanded more money, a lot more money, and they called his bluff. Howard's "power" had nothing to do with it. He doesn't pay Jackie, they do. Howard and the station General Mgr Tom Chiusano have discussed this numerous times on the air. Jackie was told it was a final offer and he walked. End of story.
@@robgrant7683no one is saying the station doesn't have a budget and final authority. If you dont thing Howard would have said pay him the extra 350,000 a year he is looking for I'm walking they would have paid you dont have a clue what was going on then. Howard was HUGE at that time. You are an idiot.
You left the show
This is so sad. Gregs kitchen. Washed up fired dudes
Jackie's analogizes get more bizarre with each passing year.
He wasn’t fired. He walked off the show
That's right.
Also, Howard wasn't paying Jackie.
The radio station/Infinity signed his paycheck.
@opugilist yes and that's why Jackie was on the show for as long as he was.
And it wasn't the first time Jackie walked off the show. He had a history of doing that every time he was renegotiating his contract.
@opugilist That has nothing to do with Jackie's salary negotiations with the station. Jackie blew it and regrets it now. He was very highly paid, would have made even more at Sirius, and also would have continued to make a ton from stand up comedy. Artie came in and sold out Carnegie Hall and did a movie and bought a beach house! I enjoyed Jackie on the show but he's an idiot when it comes to business. Jackie's career fizzled when he was no longer on Stern and he was convinced he could go solo. BIG MISTAKE!
opugilist Yes, actually you did by saying Howard controlled who was on the staff. Howard had nothing to do with this. Jackie failed in his contract negotiations with the station and they weren’t going to pay him more even if Howard wanted him there. Jackie blew it and has admitted that in interviews years later.
@opugilist Jakie still walked off the show. No matter how you try to spin it, Jackie quit. Period.
The last time Jackie spoke to mgmt and/or Howard, they made it clear to him that this conversation is the final offer. Jackie didn't take them seriously because Howard had stepped in and rescued him multiple times. Jackie's the type who can't take no for an answer.
Got what he deserved listening to his delusional wife
Exactly!! Walked off show...gone for 2 months sitting out..the show said they werent going to give him more money he wanted. He thought sitting out 2 months would force the hand of show to pay him more. Once he walked off show he couldve been fired!!! He chose to play hard ball and backfired..so.when this podcast said Howard fired Jackie...couldnt be more wrong...Jackie wouldve made millions with Sirius...he is an idiot...greed got best of him...making 6 figures+ to write jokes and work 4 hrs a day ,,4 days a week...what an f n idiot!
Why won't Opie go away? Everything is about Stern .
What a psychopath
@words wpns You're as deluded as Dopey.
Don’t listen to much to opie but of course this is going to be about stern as he is interviewing Jackie.
Haha I didnt even think of it
@words wpns he use to make fun of them when they were small timers, so in his narcissistic head he thinks he brought something up and that made it huge
In later years he literally admits this exact thought process, I heard him say it about Ari Shaffir and podcasting, he didnt want to say Ari's name because he didnt want that to be the thing that makes the guy big
This has been going on since the 90's. He's been riding Howard's coattails since he started but has never been funny himself, so the jealousy never ends.
I'd like to donate some money for a mic stand...
Jackie left the show over money. Howard begged him to stay. Jackie took a risk and payed dearly for it.
Jeez this is sad I loved Jackie on the show but this is full of BS he walked away from a high six figure offer
If you listened to the show back when Jackie was on, it was the best! Jackie contributed so much to those shows. Half the fun was everyone doing Jackie’s voice and busting his balls, it was Epic!!
God that was HYSTERICAL when they ragged on him! Show was never as good after he left.
Aye-Aye-Aye.
Jackie was half the show
Sophie's choice? Really? It was not Stern's choice. It was Jackie's. He was making a lot of money on the show, but the real money was in stand-up due to his role on the show. That's what he gave up. Jackie acted as his own agent and negotiator. How did that work out for him?
Nah he let his idiot then-wife handle it.lol
Thanks for clearing up absolutely nothing.
He did it to himself..
I love Jackie but he needs to move on. He's told the story a million times.
Jackie u got fired because u thought Howard needed u he didnt need u the best part of the show was when artie come 2 the show the show sucked when Jackie was there all he did was sell his cups and shirts he sucked so bad
@@jamesross9906 Jackie was gold
He was asked.
And he's constantly seeming to change the story of why he left
And told it a million different ways
Everything with this guy is M-O-N-E-Y and sometimes, just sometimes, relationships come first.
I love Jackie and most people don't know how much of a role he played in the show's success. As for Howard changing like he has, I don't think it's so much that he's embarrassed of his past. I think for a guy Howard's age, at this point that same kind of humor and interview along with the perverted comments just wouldn't work the same as they did when he was in his 40s or even 50s. A 40 or even 50 year old guy talking about how hot a girl 25 is, is funny and relatable, but a guy 65 or maybe even older than that....it just comes off creepy and doesn't work the same. Also, I think for most of us, as we get older, we get softer and just kinder and I think Howard knows his glory years are over and if he's going to survive for another 5 or 10 years, he has to make some changes. The problem is, his fans expect a certain type of entertainment from him and what he's giving now is soooo far from the howard everybody loved that I don't see him lasting much longer. His star has already fallen bigtime. He's not getting anywhere near the number of huge stars in his studio that he once did. As for howard not wanting to be around another 5 or 10 years....i assure you he does. He's a very egotistical guy who wants to stay in that position as long as he can and he only talked like he did about not resigning to make sure Sirius gave him top dollar. I honestly think his run is almost over though because a lot of his old fans, me included, just don't want to see this version of him. I'd be surprised if he's still in radio in another 2-3 years.
There's more to it than that. He's literally ashamed of himself because now he's part of the Hollywood elite and just like everyone else he's got to conform to the groupthink. Howard literally betrayed all of his most loyal listeners and fans. There comes a time where you need to give it up if you're so changed that you can't deliver what everyone expects. That's the sign of being washed up. Now he wants to be the new Barbara Walters? Come on. No one gives a shit about Howard's interview skills.
@ Nick oh yeah most people don't know but you do. What are you the stern show whisperer😂
@@maxxxmodelz4061 if you had a life of your own you wouldn't care. And you are delusional if you think Howard gives a 💩 about anyone's opinion. He did the show he wanted to do from day 1 in Washington. 40 years later he is still doing the show he wants to do. Much respect Mr Stern
@@drexlspivey3047 your name is Wayne Williams. Thats funny
@@maxxxmodelz4061 You sure do let Howard take up a lot of room in your head for a guy who claims no one gives a shit about him. Then again, there's obviously plenty of room in there when it's not being taken up by brain matter.
Jackie with all your talent can you make Opie funny?
Can he male Dopie funny? He's a comedian dude, not a magician!
Even Jesus couldn't do that.
I can answer that. No.
Impossible!
Haha. That’s the problem. Jackie really isn’t that funny. The funny happened when people goofed on Jackie. ✌️
Howard Succeeded in bringing a lot of different taboo material to the eyes of the public quicker than It probably ever would have ever been heard on radio.Now I think he aspires to be known for something a little more amazing and he is one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard Not only that he has musicians who are willing to do some of their best material right there on his show that says something
The fratboy and the jokeman. The fratboy looks like he's losing it. The jokeman is just old. Too old for this kinda nonsense.
When do a *person's teeth* stop growing?
Jackie tried to hurt the show by going on strike, essentially. Like a teamster. Trying to hurt your employer and coworkers...not a great career strategy.
"Like a teamster"? Enjoy your weekend off pal. Brought to you by union men and women standing up for themselves. Our whole standard of living, safety in the workplace, and retirement plans are thanks to unions. Unions have fought for things that have benefited all workplaces not just unionized ones. Pick up a history book before making ignorant comments.
Howard didn't fire him. Jackie walked off of the show. They were done dealing with him. Jackie has even admitted that that's what happened in a dozen interviews.
The Stern show has never been the same without Jackie. Fred has saved the show over the last 10 years. Would have been unreal if they could have kept it together.
There is a reason Jackie did absolutely nothing after the Stern show. He was only funny when Howard was pointing out his delusions.
It wasn't the same. It was better with Artie.
Jackie proved yet again that everyone is replaceable. He had the best thing going but fucked it up with his ego. He would’ve still been sitting there making his millions but screwed it up.
Howard letting the entire content of his show completely change, going through years of therapy, and then going on his I have reformed publicity tour has been the greatest thing to help Jackie sell these stories to the public. And he has plenty of interviewers he can run to who know maybe 5% of what the actual fans , people who were actually listening to every show during those years know. Jackie's skill was that of the memorization of every old joke he ever heard or read and being able to insert it in the perfect context to what's going on in the show. David letterman, Jay leno, or for that matter anybody else is not interested in that skill. During his NBC days David Letterman during his monologue would actually say the words "and it deep too! " Which of course is the ending punchline to a very old joke. He did not need to pay somebody good money to sit in the back putting up those words on the teleprompter for him. The other problem is Howard Stern show material and subjects are just not going to be accepted on mainstream television. There was literally no other place where Jackie could do his thing other than the Howard Stern show. There's no point in somebody arguing with me because if I were wrong he'd be working on someone's show for these past twenty years.
Jackie walked out on show...he was offered a huge amount of money to work 4 hrs a day to write jokes and do the easiest most fun job ever! He got tons of gigs off notoriety of show and sold alot of his cheap horrific joke man items to pad his pocket. Jackie was greedy plain and simple and he thought his value was so high and his contributions to show were so prevalent that he left show to force his hand in negotiations and they didn't give him want he wanted...it backfired and Jackie became irrelevant and too this day he said he regrets leaving and loved show. And not Howard's responsibility to say anything or negotiate his contract thats between him and employer...but he blames it on Howard...Howard was getting paid and not his concern...Howard thought Jackie was getting paid alot and he didn't agree with Jackies antics! If Jackie would've stayed to Sirius he would have been multi millionaire 10x over
Howard was dead on when he told Jackie : you are not an honest person and you will never make it on your own for that reason. Not that Jackie out right lies, its his inability to be honest with himself and to know what is truly funny about him. It's not his stolen jokes, that is for sure.
From what I understand, Howard's last words to Jackie before he walked off the show were. "Jackie, don't do this man. Don't walk off the show. The radio station (Mel) hates you. They will not put up with this again." Jackie needs to look in the mirror and finally admit to himself, that he is the one who broke up the "Beatles of Comedy".
Jackie was making more money than almost everyone else on the show. He was making more money than any other writer would ever make during that time. He did not get fired. He left because it was the Howard Stern Show and not that Jackie Show. He thought he could make more money writing for movies and he was confident that he would get this huge break after he walked away. Sadly he faded away and became what he was before he joined the Stern Show, a nobody. Jackie "Is a Joke" Martling, and the show only got better when they filled his seat with Artie.
Opie you need some serious therapy man. Your whole schtick revolves around Stern and his former guys. Stern will go down as the the greatest radio personality in history and no one will ever come close to that. His show blows now because it has to. He is an old man now and can't chase around the 20 year girls anymore, at least not in today's climate.
This should be called Sour Grapes Podcast
Jackie was delusional. he walked away from a shitload of dough and thought he was worth more than he really was it’s on him and nobody else he can blame howard all day but this is on him.
It's so dumb that they still act like he got fired. His contract was up and he refused to sign another one .
And he refused to stop popping up, begging back for his job...
Great job Opie. Please do more.
Imagine thinking someone fired you because you didn't show up to your job for 6 months after not signing a job contract lol
I don't know what kind of contract Jacki and Company had, but all the old shows on the E channel are hilarious and I watch them all the time here on RUclips. I would hope he would get compensation(royalties/residuals for the old shows but I don't think he does.
Good morning podsquad! Great clip
this interview was GREAT Opie, you and Jackie gotta do this stuff way more often than every 5-6 months.
Don't know whose fault it was. Don't know how much Jackie contributed to the shows success. What I do know is that the "Jackie era" on the show was tops for me. I know lots of people loved Artie, but prime Stern was about 1985-2000 imo
Jackie wrote alot if things Howard said on the show live. He had a sharpie and a pad of paper and wrote jokes or lines then passed them to Howard.
Right, he quit because of the money. I will never stop missing the Jackie years on the show 😭
Only reason Bengy is still there is because he never argues with Howard or complains. Howard could literately tell Bengy he's getting paid minimum wage and he'd still stay. 😂
Benjy is only worth minimum wage .
I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten fired at some point in my life but I don’t dwell, i move on.
Are you serious? He lost millions of dollars not your crappy job at McDonalds.
CelestialWoodway it was his fault. He himself said they called him and told him the offer was final with a deadline date. He took too long and finally called them back to accept the offer but was told it was too late and the offer was gone. So who’s fault was it?
It wasn’t just a day job, it was Jackie’s entire career for 20 years and they pulled a multi million dollar deal away from Jackie and gave it to Artie instead. No loyalty even though he had been loyal to Howard for decades. That would be the equivalent of Howard firing Fred because it took too long for Fred to call back.
Jackie, you were making millions and
you left. How was everyone else on the show able to figure out to stay on but somehow you stumbled out on your own. Wtf
It wasn't millions but it definitely with stand up could be over a million a year
Rolled the dice. That’s how it goes...
Well looks like I gotta go to Home Depot & buy some more sheet rock cause I’m about to punch my walls again.. Godamn!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
He was not Fired.. HE LEFT! He played a hand and he lost. This is such a BS title.. leading to a false conclusion
Bro he is 100% right, there are people that you have them. I have childhood friends that till this day, I know exactly what to do and they will burst out laughing.
Jackie would threaten to quit for more money and this time they called his bluff
I'm surprised there is anything in Jackie's house. I thought Nancy walked off with everything.
Jackie blew it. He wanted more money than they wanted to pay and he walked away. He forgot that everyone on the show is replaceable....apart from Stern. Arguably the show was better without Jackie when he was replaced with Artie.
The show was not better after jackie. Just different. Jackie was Howard's writer and Stern was much faster and funnier with Jackie feeding him lines all show long. Artie never filled that role. No one has in 20 years. The show got slower and more pre planned after Jackie left. It lost a lot of it's spontaneous zip after Jackie.
Jackie's voice haha
That sounded like Fred at the end?
Howard said he wasnt going to go through that negotiation for him again, he did it before but he kept asking for more money.
Jackie still bitter! He over played his hand and worth to the show! Soon as you think you are irreplaceable you’re replaced! Artie was just as good show didn’t miss a beat! RIP Martling! Go sell your coffee mugs elsewhere!
Omg holy cow my God Jackie the joke man is working at the Howard stern show on the original the show
Howard always tells people he fired Jackie but Jackie left on his own
Howard was the reason I got Sirius and the reason I canceled it
It’s getting better
Jackie held out for more money. They told him it wasn't available so he left. it was a stupid negotiating tactic that cost him his his lifestyle and marriage. Good job, dude.
It's called chemistry.
Not sure what's more sad here..
Give us the options.
@@Smellohwell this line of questioning has been done already by Opie. I still enjoy it but it's just a rehash. Jackie has answered this question many times before . I always like a new angle. Jackie is still chasing the ghost of howard Stern and Opie is trying to run away from the setting sun.
Oh I can help. All of it.
MikekiM's, weak ass comment. Now you know.
@@alwayssunnyinphiladelphia922 the one I really like is Jackie, John the stutterer, and Billy west. That was a good one. The full length round table is out now.
You walked off the over < 50k, Jackie. Stop blaming everyone else.
Still to this day Jackie can't admit that he left the show; THEY GAVE YOU AN OFFER AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO ACCEPT IT!!
I've been listening to the shows from 2000 and Howard said multiple times that he didn't think Jackie would return and he wasn't going to intervene this time.
He gave Jackie dozens of warnings, but Marlow disregarded them and pulled the same shit he did at every renewal. Then acted surprised when it turned out the way it did.
Jackie didnt even work for Howard. He worked for Sirius. He fired himself anyway.
KROCK never made it to Sirius
@@chrisjohnson3201 the JOKE HUNT.....
Great to see Jackie the Jokemin
Jackie put himself out a job. He was a fool trying to play hardball with his contract. Everybody is replaceable
You should’ve listened to howard, look where you are
Broke, divorced- and living in a *crapshack* with a toilet that won't flush and a dining room table halfway out of the window.
Jackie left on his own , he wanted more money and Howard didn’t want to take him back when he regretted leaving
SlipKid84 I listen to the show that’s exactly what happened lol
SlipKid84 stop it ,it’s all over you tube , u could easily look it up , stop calling people idiots when u don’t know shit about the situation
It’s called a tripod. Camera sitting on a stack of books?
Jesus, Jack. Talk about sour grapes.
Jealous, Opie? For a guy who claims he doesn't like Stern, you seem to obsess about him.
This is like watching _The King of Comedy._
You should do more of this type of interviews on your podcasts as opposed to answering redundant questions from listeners.
thanks for leaving when you did because without that happening then we wouldnt have had almost a decade of ARtie
I have a paper route available in So. Calif....
Making upper 6 figures a year as a writer...gets a significant raise offer on his reup....demands more to reup, they make an additional offer just short of Jackies demand (less than 10k difference) and dumbass walks, waits 3 months to decide he'd take the offer and the rest is history.
Some people only get fifteen minutes; Jackie had fifteen YEARS That's a good run by any measure...I remember Dice breaking his balls on the show...Funny stuff...
This is just sad. Opie has gone from one of the biggest shows on radio to holding a Radio Shack mic and doing a "show" out of his house.
Jackie wasn't fired, he quit, or held out or however you want to put it. They didn't "fire" him, they just replaced him when he decided to stop showing up. And the Artie era was the best of the show IMO.
Jackie just got an over inflated sense of worth and his bluff backfired on him. But nobody fired him, if he hadn't left he'd still be there today like Fred and Robin.
The "best" really? Dude, Stern's best years were 88-95.
@@Superstarseven nah.
This is so pathetic. Jackie quit the show and then begged to come back months later after it was too late. He fucked up and still can’t take responsibility all these years later.
No one officially told him it was over? Jackie quit
Jacki looks like he's 92 years old.
How can you say stern is embarrassed when he admits all his flaws over the radio
Jackie wanted 1 million salary and Howard offered 600k. Jackie held out thinking that eventually they would give in, and they didn't. Jackie then realized what a mistake he was making& tried to go back and accept their offer and they told him to piss off basically. Jackie wasn't fired, he quit. He really should stop spreading bs lies.
Howard made an example of Jackie. Bosses do this in corporate America every fucking day. Jackie thought he was more than just a spoke in the wheel. Howard knew better. Howard loved to have full control over everyone on the show and hates the idea of them succeeding without him. In Jackie's case, he bet on him failing and was correct.
Fired? He walked off, he quit!
18 years later and he still can't stop talking about this. Move on Hackman...
Um pretty sure people ask these questions to the Jokemin. He doesnt seek our these interviews. He's been making more music in the last 15 years then he did while working with Horward
Shut up bitch
@@nm7891 is it good music? I bet it's not.
@@jf8050 it is actually and very profitable. Listen before you judge. The Jokemim will surprise you
@@collin2502 back off troll
Jackie knew what he was pushing his luck with every contract negotiation... what other place was going to pay Jackie a million dollars to write lame jokes? Jackie always wanted more credit that he got... or deserved, IMO. By contrast, Howard WAS threatened by Billy West, which is why he never helped him get more money. He felt Billy was drawing too much of the spotlight away from him. That show was insanely funny - best it ever was - in the 90s with Billy West.
Who is Opie? Who is Jackie?
jackie admitted that he became uber wealthy with the infinity ipo
he insists he left the show because of money....but i have a feeling it had a lot more to do with the hours
the man was killing himself
Killing himself working 4 hours a day? Getting up early isn’t hard if you’re not abusing yourself.
Jackie made a fortune on that show, and he didnt seem to do much.
Opie, Anthony, Jackie, stuttering John and the rest of them still trying to make a living off Howard.
I had forgotten what a doorknob Opie is.
he fired himself. the show was already on its way down, jackie quitting just made it more obvious
He left period.
Jackie would've been at the very least $20 million richer since 2001. That's why he's bitter. It's about, and always has been about one thing, money.
I'd be bitter too btw.
Howard turned into one of the people he hated when he was younger. His old self would have obliterated his new self. Honestly the show was much funnier 30 years ago.
Funny watching two wash ups talk about the good ol days
Why would Howard have any control when they were on terrestrial radio?
Atleast you didn't sell out like Howard. HE Lost his spine and courage with age. Fukkin pitiful