Considering how depressing the first season was, I can only imagine the heartbreaking backstory they’ll give Nosferata in season 2. Also, man do I love how unapologetically evil Phosphorus is. A true Batman villain in an antihero team
And dude's hilarious to top it off. Him snarling at that lady while shrugging his shoulders like "I'm only doing this because I'm supposed to be a monster I guess" got me good
10:46 this left me so upset, because technically for them this is like taking a new found species out of a lake, imagine someone is taking a croc out of a lake and one guy gets near and gets shot to death because he got too close
Yeah like, since when can a officer shoot a weaponless civilian in the back and nobody give a shit ? I was honnestly expecting a scene where we see it was Waller who organized Nina kidnapping and paid the officer to make sure everything go smoothly...
@@samsoul8023 "Yeah like, since when can a officer shoot a weaponless civilian in the back and nobody give a shit" ...lol, have you been living under a rock for the last fifty years? Only problem is that they didn't make him black.
@@samsoul8023 In Salt Lake City, a mother called the police to help her fourteen year old autistic child who was having a panic attack, and when they showed up they proceeded to shoot the unarmed boy in the back eleven times while he fled from them in fear. The officers weren't even suspended and are still on the police force
12:31 The moment Weasel bites Phosphorus's arm reveals a deeper connection to his humanity, as his eyes briefly shift back to their original weasel form. This change hints at something inherently human within him, especially as he recalls a little girl in the princess and instinctively tries to warn her. However, the pain from the bite pulls him back into his primal state, dimming his eyes. This duality in Weasel's behavior intrigues me, making me eager to learn more about his backstory.
Uh.... i don t think its that at all... His expression after bitting Phospho arms is just the realization that it is burning him. He even smells himself burning before reacting.
10:35 I swear to god all the police officers in this show are the stupidest most reckless people in the entire DCU (I can say that because the universe is just starting)
Damn, I cried when Nina died :/ Of all of them she definetely is the one that deserved some happy ending. Especially seeing her life full of struggle and sadness just right before all this. She is such a beautiful, but misunderstood girl, that deserved to live with her friends and experience some of the life her father wanted her to have. Felt so unfair, I was literally mad at Gunn for writing it this way.
Yep. I don't see the point to this show. It's just showing a bunch of different ways of making tragic gruesome backstories, and for what? This is entertaining? Is it really just violence for the sake of violence? Gunn tries to give it some kind of meaning, but it's so flat. I hated this by the end of it. I still trust him for Superman, but him on Rated R stuff is kinda purposeless.
@@matheusflores619 I disagree. The show is about monsters. The one who was born as one (The Bride), the one who followed his nature (G.I.), the one who was innocent (Weasel), the one who became a monster (Phosphorus), the one who refuses to be anything other than a monster (Frankenstein) and, lastly, the one who was never a monster (Nina). It has thematic cohesiveness
37:27 james gunn already said we would be getting a complete original score for superman from james murphy and he said maby 1 or 2 songs would be like he normally would in the movie
I wonder if GI will remember Nina. In the beginning, GI and Nina were the first to start a friendship. He even asked about where friend Nina was when the Bride and Nina were captured and left behind. It would be an interesting moment to see how he reacts to the news that he won't be able to take out Nazis with her.
The Shelley book was Mathilda, her second novel, about a young woman whose father confesses he wants to bang her and then commits suicide. She wrote it while living in Italy and mailed it to her father in England to get published; after reading it he refused to either publish it or return it to her, and it ended up not being published until more than a hundred years later. The relevance to the Bride is pretty clear. There's also less direct but still relevant connections to Rick and Nina's stories, too.
@@JS-ct3kryeah the only issue is that movie hasn’t technically been greenlit yet but there’s no chance in hell battinson is gonna be this worlds batman.
The bat girl is called nosferata. She was experimented on in the 1940s by Project Moreau, and she was a part of this group called the wild landers. She's from another dimension if i recall, then superboy came and lead the group to the human world we're she tried to invade hawaii. The mummy man is called khalis, he's a mummy who's bandages have healing properties.
I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t see the bride’s relationship with victor as anything other than a child being groomed and preyed on by a predator, who was also a cheater
I’m glad GI Robot is alive, but I’m equally sad about Nina. I am also happy for superhero media to not have a big punch up at the end, but unfortunately I don’t think this quite stuck the landing for me. I am looking forward to season 2!
I will say this finale had a lot of pros and cons to it as I do wish the show had at least one more episode to flesh out everything with feeling a bit rushed however I will say watching Nina's backstory with her upbringing and struggles of her disabilities and as a burden to her father just to die by thr princesses hand was so devastating as she truly didn't deserve to die. But watching her origin while just a couple minutes later seeing her die just like that feels very anticlimactic and made Nina feel useless in the overall show. I do like how Nina's empathy had an impact on the Bride as we see her grow past her jaded cynicism and avenge Nina's death by killing the Princess. BTW Im a bit confused what made Illana so dangerous or what her motivation was since we never really got a great understanding of what made her such a deadly threat to other big heavy hitting heroes like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman etc...for the DCU and then Bride just kills her just like that as there is a lot of unanswered questions?
I guess if she had proceeded with her plan to take over the world as she said to Flagg that she wants to bring her people to the 21st Century, which already could've been seen as conquering the world, down the line, she would've paired up with other major villains like Grodd because his intelligence in helping how to take down major superheroes
IDK. It felt complete to me. First show I've had a connection 90% of the cast in just a few episodes. I felt actual dread they might die at any second and to my surprise they had the balls to actually kill a few.
You know, I was always on team "the professor got killed after visiting Waller" and when Amanda Waller goes "we have to stop killing the princess", I was checking to see if there was still time in the episode. Oh, not much? Guess its really that simple? The time between that and the twist reveal was too short imo. The princess had great opportunity to be a villain in season 2 or another project, they didnt need to go "oh she was who we thought she was all along". All in all, the backstories took up around half of the whole season. I wouldnt have minded to learn what Waller did with Circe or to see one or two more episodes between them travelling to the castle and them finding the princess. Maybe even have Clayface impersonate a second person after the professor. Anything to make this season feel a bit more complete.
I'm so glad the princess died only because I loathe shows that reuse the same plots and villains who keep escaping and plotlines never truly resolve so I'm glad it's done one way or another!😂
I feel a lot of people are decrying that Nina didn't have a badass moment, but I think that is the point of her character. Every other member of the squad (except maybe Weasel. explicitly including Waller and Flag) has accepted their 'monstrous' behavior as an acceptable part of their otherness, what makes them different from 'normal' people. For Waller, she relishes in her ruthless amoral behavior as a 'necessity' to protect the people who would condemn her (this applies to a lesser extent to Flag, who condemns his own checkered military career even disregarding it inspired his son.) The Bride is a nihilist, everyone has abused her and used her (the reference to "Mathilda" implies she has realized Victor was a groomer) and so, she reacts with indifference, unwilling to try NOT being a monster because regular people aren't any better. Phosphorus has passed though the other side to hedonism, he embraces his monstrosity because otherwise he would have to confront the horror of his trauma (remember the dance scene that flickered between the pimp outfit and his wedding?) While I initially thought that GI bucked this pattern as he lacked the self-awareness to truly understand his 'monstrosity', his otherness, I think the fact that he misses his old friends and protects Nina shows that he wants to belong, he needs companionship. And its clear that it's not just a compulsion: he enjoys killing Nazis because it gives him value and makes him worthy of belonging. As for the Weasel...man, I don't know it's unclear how self-aware he is. But Nina? Nina never ACTED like a monster, she's legitimately blameless. That's what made the 'go be a monster' line so brutal: the people she finally started to bond with, who accepted her, told her that murder was part of her nature, that that's what she had to do to belong. And in the end, that's the greatest shame, because the lesson shouldn't be that you have to be badass, to be powerful, to be dangerous, to be USEFUL in order to belong. She didn't have crazy powers, and she shouldn't HAVE TO.
I don’t know what the timeframe is between Weasel’s backstory and Nina’s, but the cops who shoot at Weasel and Nina’s dad look suspiciously alike. Like it’s literally the same guy but aged up. I wonder if there’s something there…
Dude thats just stupid on their end. For weasel, its more understandable, like he looks more ferral has a kid in his mouth a burning building, they tunneled vision on how to take out a threat. But with Nina's dad, dude th is just stupid, he is unarmed, he is saying specific things about Nina that they don't know. You would think they would question him on why he knows this stuff, but they just end up pulling a gun on him. At least the more reasonable thing was to tackle him and put him on the ground, but shooting? In a crowd? With no signs of struggle from the "monster" I mean just hold down the old guy a shot is just insane
@@marcodragneel8035 It's a big event, people are wanting to make money off of the fish lady. The cops were probably told to keep people away. People in these comments are acting like cops shooting unarmed civillians is weird in any way.
@@willcopeland275no of course not, there are certainly some cops who join the force out of a desire to do good. I’m certainly there are plenty like that actually, the issue is there is little to no accountability for police in America. The perfect example of this is the Uvalde Texas shooting. Dozens of cops just stood in the hallway for close to an hour just listening to the screams of children as they were gunned by by a shooter and if it wasn’t for some random guy going in the school and stopping the shooter, who knows how long they would had just stood there. And what happened to them? Nothing really, I’m not even sure if any of them were actually fired for it. And when good cops speak out against the bad cops in their region, they are ostracized for it. And then you have all of the high profile cases of cops killing unarmed people (particularly black people) and very few of them actually face repercussions because the system is rigged in their favor. And there are cops who are aware of this and abuse it maliciously and they are protected by law enforcement. And this been going on for decades now, look at the Rodney king beating for that. So while I don’t agree with saying that all cops are bad, law enforcement in this country is ripe for justifiable criticism
35:26 full thing about them being like Universal monsters, that’s the original concept behind the Classic WW2 team A bunch of soldiers that underwent experiments to make them into Frankenstein, a wolf man, a Transylvania Vampire, and….A Medusa lady. Okay well the last one isn’t universal but the rest of the OG team is! I liked this show but would also love to see the classic WW2 team one day too
Does James Gunn need a hug? Because he just killed the best member of the team in Nina after we finally saw her painfully tragic origin story! But seeing G.I. Robot back gives me hope that maybe James can bring back Nina. She’s too good to be killed off by a psychopathic princess.
@ so you’d rather her be dead than be around monsters who she was having a genuine positive effect on, especially the bride?! What the hell is wrong with you?
I think it goes along with the theme of monsters actually being tragic characters who are rejected by society for things they have no control over like Nina and Weasel
Watched the episode then came straight here for the reaction. Solid finale. Nina's backstory was about as tragic as could be expected. That shot of her under the water underneath the princess was fab, a mirror like shot of her against a human, keeping that question of how human does she see herself. Real shame she had to die, but it did make sense as she was the most innocent. The Bride's revenge felt so vindicating. Loved how they wrapped it all up without it feeling convoluted or like they were hanging on for more. Yes there's a tease for more CC, but as for the princess she's out of the picture. Overall this series was great, so happy it stuck the ending in a satisfying way. Let's hope the next DCU stuff will be on this level. I'm quite interested to see these characters in live action, especially the Bride, I hope the makeup & prosthetics get her right.
I've always liked those that are different and others don't like, both people and animals, so I'd definitely be friends with Nina or even more if I was in school with her. Despite her being a fish and having to wear a helmet, she's definitely smart and I think pretty too 😅
i like the season, it feel like there was missing at least an episode to finish everthing properly, but i imagine thats the problem when this show and character need to flow to another movie or even season. i asume Flag is gonna be use in other thing, probably a cameo in superman, Peacemaker 2 probably have some cameos and reference of the Commandos, all of that, to me the problem is that this individual season feel rush and incomplete. fun charactes, great animations but the plot was very thin and the ending a little bit anticlimatic
At close range many pistols wont exit the body. Especially the glocks that most police use. Neither has the penetration power or speed. But yeah definitely no reason to resort to shooting to kill a guy that posed 0 threat to them. Especially in the back.
A question for americans, did you know that eastern and southern europe isn't just bird poop eating romani and weird castles US heroes get to destroy? Every single time it's in a show it's just that.
I heard in the comic the mummy has healing abilities, so many there’s a way for him to revive Nina! And has even made it so she can breathe on land ( total coping)
The Nina backstory doesn't really make since the media was like the mysterious sea creature spotted in the harbor of the town where she went to school and was know??? Guess a fish kid going to school being on a sport team and growing up to be an adult didn't make the news?
True, but its seems like in this universe Gunn made, oddities in normal everyday things seem to be not out of place. But then again if it is "normal" in this world why were they so afraid of a creature in the city waters? I mean killer croc literally lives in the sewers but no one bats an eye to address how to get him out. So yeah a bit of a writing mishap on that end
This episode proves how much iv hate being a human what happened to nina how those bully Humans in the school and the cop killed Nina's dad who only one card about his daughter
Wait, so did Kin Shark NOT die in The Suicide Squad? I know it's a new universe but I also know they're still continuing and referencing both that and Peacemaker
It stuck the landing but didn't quite nail it It was underwhelming except for the Nina backstory part (which was great mind you) but everything else felt a bit rushed. One more episode would have made it feel more complete IMO also considering that Dr Phosphorus is from Gotham...how does he not know Clayface is a question I have
@@neminem233lol. Clayface is a small villain on a grand scale. The most violent version of him is a raging maniac killer that is specialized in hiding as a different person everytime he kills. He’s stealthy. On the other hand most other members of Batman rogue gallery are either gang leaders or public terrorists.
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Felt a little unsatisfied from the finale and not in a good way, hopefully s2 retroactively fixes that by picking up on some plot points like Circe-who just dropped off the face of the show???
The cops really grounded this comicbook show. Just wish Ollie was operating in Star City by then but he’s probably retired since Hal Jordans actor is almost 60
no? i mean you can’t say now when only one story has come out but there’s multiple writers and stories being written and this definitely was made with a season 2 in mind along with the characters making appearances outside of the show. there’s definitely some problems with the finale but most problems can be fixed or improved upon when writing other projects.
Nina ! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you think they killed her off to rub it in the face of the furries who were baited into watching the show for her ? I feel targeted... Joke aside, its not everyday i m shocked by a series and i litteraly got up from my chair when she got stab... Truly heatbreaking death...
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Guardians of the galaxy 1 is clearly his best work ever and its not even close. Also peacemaker is 50 times better than The Suicide Squad. If youre gonna rank shit at least be good at it
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Can we get a dyed beard Erik for Peacemaker season 2?😂
This marks the third time that everybody assumed Weasel was on the same page as everyone else, despite the fact that he can’t understand words.
Weasel is so cute and I wish I could pet him! He just wants to be friends with everybody after all
Yeah like...BFR
if you had a nickle for everytime it happened you'd have three. which isn't a lot but it's strange that it's happened trice - paraphrased avantris
@@theeLonelyRedPandathat saying seems to have become really common recently for some reason. Been seeing it everywhere
@Lancehendrix813 it's off of a dnd youtube channel legends of avantris. Mostly role playing but it's hilarious.
Seeing child Nina struggle to walk down the street really got to me. She was such an innocent in all this.
The swimming shots of Nina and the Princess were for sure homages to the original Creature from the Black Lagoon
Considering how depressing the first season was, I can only imagine the heartbreaking backstory they’ll give Nosferata in season 2.
Also, man do I love how unapologetically evil Phosphorus is. A true Batman villain in an antihero team
And dude's hilarious to top it off. Him snarling at that lady while shrugging his shoulders like "I'm only doing this because I'm supposed to be a monster I guess" got me good
10:46 this left me so upset, because technically for them this is like taking a new found species out of a lake, imagine someone is taking a croc out of a lake and one guy gets near and gets shot to death because he got too close
Yeah like, since when can a officer shoot a weaponless civilian in the back and nobody give a shit ? I was honnestly expecting a scene where we see it was Waller who organized Nina kidnapping and paid the officer to make sure everything go smoothly...
@@samsoul8023probably the case
Well officers have shot people for a lot less
@@samsoul8023 "Yeah like, since when can a officer shoot a weaponless civilian in the back and nobody give a shit"
...lol, have you been living under a rock for the last fifty years? Only problem is that they didn't make him black.
@@samsoul8023 In Salt Lake City, a mother called the police to help her fourteen year old autistic child who was having a panic attack, and when they showed up they proceeded to shoot the unarmed boy in the back eleven times while he fled from them in fear. The officers weren't even suspended and are still on the police force
12:31 The moment Weasel bites Phosphorus's arm reveals a deeper connection to his humanity, as his eyes briefly shift back to their original weasel form. This change hints at something inherently human within him, especially as he recalls a little girl in the princess and instinctively tries to warn her. However, the pain from the bite pulls him back into his primal state, dimming his eyes. This duality in Weasel's behavior intrigues me, making me eager to learn more about his backstory.
Weasel is so cute and I wish I could pet him! He just wants to be friends with everybody after all
Uh.... i don t think its that at all... His expression after bitting Phospho arms is just the realization that it is burning him. He even smells himself burning before reacting.
I think that’s what they are saying. The burn snapped him out of it.
5:20 I always forget about Aaron's fear of needles lmao I love how tense he gets every single time as much as it must suck for him
10:35 I swear to god all the police officers in this show are the stupidest most reckless people in the entire DCU (I can say that because the universe is just starting)
This is why we need superheroes lmao
I mean there ARE some trigger-happy idiots drunk with power wearing a badge in all the countries in our world too, so it's not too far-fetched.
Cops being bunch of incompetent assholes is probably most realistic part of the show.
Shows rarely paint cops in a good light, except for the shows about cops lol
Damn, I cried when Nina died :/ Of all of them she definetely is the one that deserved some happy ending. Especially seeing her life full of struggle and sadness just right before all this. She is such a beautiful, but misunderstood girl, that deserved to live with her friends and experience some of the life her father wanted her to have. Felt so unfair, I was literally mad at Gunn for writing it this way.
Exactly.
Yep. I don't see the point to this show. It's just showing a bunch of different ways of making tragic gruesome backstories, and for what? This is entertaining? Is it really just violence for the sake of violence? Gunn tries to give it some kind of meaning, but it's so flat. I hated this by the end of it. I still trust him for Superman, but him on Rated R stuff is kinda purposeless.
@@matheusflores619 I disagree. The show is about monsters. The one who was born as one (The Bride), the one who followed his nature (G.I.), the one who was innocent (Weasel), the one who became a monster (Phosphorus), the one who refuses to be anything other than a monster (Frankenstein) and, lastly, the one who was never a monster (Nina). It has thematic cohesiveness
@vicentematias763 But what's the point?
@@matheusflores619 to tell a good story(?). Is that not the point of any narrative piece?
Nina being the only monster that permadies in this show really drives the point of the story home.
The humans are the true monsters of the story.
Flag: "I'm bad?"
Wow. And we thought GI robot would be this series Polkadot man. Guess he’s the peacemaker equivalent instead.
Yup
I figured if any of them was savable, it was GI. Like IG-11 in Mandalorian. They are robots after all.
37:27 james gunn already said we would be getting a complete original score for superman from james murphy and he said maby 1 or 2 songs would be like he normally would in the movie
I love how they refer to Frankenstein as just “Frank” in the discussion instead of Eric
I loved this show can't wait for season 2
Probably my favorite shot of the season is the princess’ blue eyes peering through the blood in the water. So chilling
I wonder if GI will remember Nina. In the beginning, GI and Nina were the first to start a friendship. He even asked about where friend Nina was when the Bride and Nina were captured and left behind. It would be an interesting moment to see how he reacts to the news that he won't be able to take out Nazis with her.
He's lost war buddies before. He'd probably be sad, but he's a soldier. He knows losing comrades is a part of life
The Shelley book was Mathilda, her second novel, about a young woman whose father confesses he wants to bang her and then commits suicide. She wrote it while living in Italy and mailed it to her father in England to get published; after reading it he refused to either publish it or return it to her, and it ended up not being published until more than a hundred years later.
The relevance to the Bride is pretty clear. There's also less direct but still relevant connections to Rick and Nina's stories, too.
This episode definitely rules out pattinson as dcu batman since Dr phosphorus says he's been locked up for 15 years
Pretty sure the director of Brave and the Bold came out and said it isn't gonna be Pattinson too
@@JS-ct3kryeah the only issue is that movie hasn’t technically been greenlit yet but there’s no chance in hell battinson is gonna be this worlds batman.
If you think how the cops behaved was unrealistic, don't forget how they react to acorns
How did that dude in the back of squad car did not get hit once
Eric's excitement about a characters theme or motif really makes me want a Blind Wave reaction to EPIC The Musical. 36:32
Gunn's indictment of the police is so brilliantly done
I don't know about "brilliant". The man just hates police and highlighted their incompetence in his villain backstories.
The bat girl is called nosferata. She was experimented on in the 1940s by Project Moreau, and she was a part of this group called the wild landers. She's from another dimension if i recall, then superboy came and lead the group to the human world we're she tried to invade hawaii.
The mummy man is called khalis, he's a mummy who's bandages have healing properties.
I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t see the bride’s relationship with victor as anything other than a child being groomed and preyed on by a predator, who was also a cheater
That is the point, actually
I’m glad GI Robot is alive, but I’m equally sad about Nina. I am also happy for superhero media to not have a big punch up at the end, but unfortunately I don’t think this quite stuck the landing for me. I am looking forward to season 2!
Maybe mummy guy can heal her
apparently in the comics the mummy heals her, and she doesn’t even need the water anymore
I will say this finale had a lot of pros and cons to it as I do wish the show had at least one more episode to flesh out everything with feeling a bit rushed however I will say watching Nina's backstory with her upbringing and struggles of her disabilities and as a burden to her father just to die by thr princesses hand was so devastating as she truly didn't deserve to die. But watching her origin while just a couple minutes later seeing her die just like that feels very anticlimactic and made Nina feel useless in the overall show.
I do like how Nina's empathy had an impact on the Bride as we see her grow past her jaded cynicism and avenge Nina's death by killing the Princess. BTW Im a bit confused what made Illana so dangerous or what her motivation was since we never really got a great understanding of what made her such a deadly threat to other big heavy hitting heroes like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman etc...for the DCU and then Bride just kills her just like that as there is a lot of unanswered questions?
Im guessing grodd would have been a big reason why she would have been a threat
I guess if she had proceeded with her plan to take over the world as she said to Flagg that she wants to bring her people to the 21st Century, which already could've been seen as conquering the world, down the line, she would've paired up with other major villains like Grodd because his intelligence in helping how to take down major superheroes
I feel like it was this short because they weren’t sure of how successful it was gonna be considering that they aren’t popular characters
@ It's a good thing they've been greenlit a season 2
IDK. It felt complete to me. First show I've had a connection 90% of the cast in just a few episodes. I felt actual dread they might die at any second and to my surprise they had the balls to actually kill a few.
You know, I was always on team "the professor got killed after visiting Waller" and when Amanda Waller goes "we have to stop killing the princess", I was checking to see if there was still time in the episode. Oh, not much? Guess its really that simple?
The time between that and the twist reveal was too short imo. The princess had great opportunity to be a villain in season 2 or another project, they didnt need to go "oh she was who we thought she was all along". All in all, the backstories took up around half of the whole season. I wouldnt have minded to learn what Waller did with Circe or to see one or two more episodes between them travelling to the castle and them finding the princess. Maybe even have Clayface impersonate a second person after the professor. Anything to make this season feel a bit more complete.
I'm so glad the princess died only because I loathe shows that reuse the same plots and villains who keep escaping and plotlines never truly resolve so I'm glad it's done one way or another!😂
The entire time I've been wondering how Clayface faked a vision and now it all makes sense.
I feel a lot of people are decrying that Nina didn't have a badass moment, but I think that is the point of her character.
Every other member of the squad (except maybe Weasel. explicitly including Waller and Flag) has accepted their 'monstrous' behavior as an acceptable part of their otherness, what makes them different from 'normal' people.
For Waller, she relishes in her ruthless amoral behavior as a 'necessity' to protect the people who would condemn her (this applies to a lesser extent to Flag, who condemns his own checkered military career even disregarding it inspired his son.)
The Bride is a nihilist, everyone has abused her and used her (the reference to "Mathilda" implies she has realized Victor was a groomer) and so, she reacts with indifference, unwilling to try NOT being a monster because regular people aren't any better.
Phosphorus has passed though the other side to hedonism, he embraces his monstrosity because otherwise he would have to confront the horror of his trauma (remember the dance scene that flickered between the pimp outfit and his wedding?)
While I initially thought that GI bucked this pattern as he lacked the self-awareness to truly understand his 'monstrosity', his otherness, I think the fact that he misses his old friends and protects Nina shows that he wants to belong, he needs companionship. And its clear that it's not just a compulsion: he enjoys killing Nazis because it gives him value and makes him worthy of belonging.
As for the Weasel...man, I don't know it's unclear how self-aware he is.
But Nina? Nina never ACTED like a monster, she's legitimately blameless. That's what made the 'go be a monster' line so brutal: the people she finally started to bond with, who accepted her, told her that murder was part of her nature, that that's what she had to do to belong. And in the end, that's the greatest shame, because the lesson shouldn't be that you have to be badass, to be powerful, to be dangerous, to be USEFUL in order to belong. She didn't have crazy powers, and she shouldn't HAVE TO.
What a great series to start off the DCU!
I don’t know what the timeframe is between Weasel’s backstory and Nina’s, but the cops who shoot at Weasel and Nina’s dad look suspiciously alike. Like it’s literally the same guy but aged up. I wonder if there’s something there…
Dude thats just stupid on their end. For weasel, its more understandable, like he looks more ferral has a kid in his mouth a burning building, they tunneled vision on how to take out a threat. But with Nina's dad, dude th is just stupid, he is unarmed, he is saying specific things about Nina that they don't know. You would think they would question him on why he knows this stuff, but they just end up pulling a gun on him. At least the more reasonable thing was to tackle him and put him on the ground, but shooting? In a crowd? With no signs of struggle from the "monster" I mean just hold down the old guy a shot is just insane
@@marcodragneel8035 It's a big event, people are wanting to make money off of the fish lady. The cops were probably told to keep people away. People in these comments are acting like cops shooting unarmed civillians is weird in any way.
I like that this show accurately portrays cops as unintelligent, bloodthirsty goons with no regard for human lives.
Always refreshing when a show isn't copaganda
I understand what you’re saying but I can’t agree all cops are like the way you and some people feel they are
@@willcopeland275no of course not, there are certainly some cops who join the force out of a desire to do good. I’m certainly there are plenty like that actually, the issue is there is little to no accountability for police in America. The perfect example of this is the Uvalde Texas shooting. Dozens of cops just stood in the hallway for close to an hour just listening to the screams of children as they were gunned by by a shooter and if it wasn’t for some random guy going in the school and stopping the shooter, who knows how long they would had just stood there. And what happened to them? Nothing really, I’m not even sure if any of them were actually fired for it. And when good cops speak out against the bad cops in their region, they are ostracized for it.
And then you have all of the high profile cases of cops killing unarmed people (particularly black people) and very few of them actually face repercussions because the system is rigged in their favor. And there are cops who are aware of this and abuse it maliciously and they are protected by law enforcement. And this been going on for decades now, look at the Rodney king beating for that. So while I don’t agree with saying that all cops are bad, law enforcement in this country is ripe for justifiable criticism
35:26 full thing about them being like Universal monsters, that’s the original concept behind the Classic WW2 team
A bunch of soldiers that underwent experiments to make them into Frankenstein, a wolf man, a Transylvania Vampire, and….A Medusa lady. Okay well the last one isn’t universal but the rest of the OG team is!
I liked this show but would also love to see the classic WW2 team one day too
10:49 Maybe he wanted to be suspended with pay.
Nah, that guy definitely was telling himself “yeah, I saved lives today…”
Aaron going just let me lug around the machine is a mood after that nightmare of a machine
also does James Gunn hate the police??
Happy New Year Jay and Adam🎉🎉
James Gunn has got something to say about cops.
Weasel is so cute and I wish I could pet him! He just wants to be friends with everybody after all
He's a good boy at heart.
Does James Gunn need a hug? Because he just killed the best member of the team in Nina after we finally saw her painfully tragic origin story! But seeing G.I. Robot back gives me hope that maybe James can bring back Nina. She’s too good to be killed off by a psychopathic princess.
She is too good to be part of the team which is why I don't see her coming back.
@ so you’d rather her be dead than be around monsters who she was having a genuine positive effect on, especially the bride?! What the hell is wrong with you?
@@thedarkknight2221She was bound to die sometime she couldn't be a monster.
I think it goes along with the theme of monsters actually being tragic characters who are rejected by society for things they have no control over like Nina and Weasel
Id say clayface was playing dead until they discovered him. Afterwards then would've pulled himself together.
Makes sense, after all the plan was for him to be discovered.
Watched the episode then came straight here for the reaction.
Solid finale. Nina's backstory was about as tragic as could be expected. That shot of her under the water underneath the princess was fab, a mirror like shot of her against a human, keeping that question of how human does she see herself. Real shame she had to die, but it did make sense as she was the most innocent.
The Bride's revenge felt so vindicating. Loved how they wrapped it all up without it feeling convoluted or like they were hanging on for more. Yes there's a tease for more CC, but as for the princess she's out of the picture.
Overall this series was great, so happy it stuck the ending in a satisfying way. Let's hope the next DCU stuff will be on this level.
I'm quite interested to see these characters in live action, especially the Bride, I hope the makeup & prosthetics get her right.
I've always liked those that are different and others don't like, both people and animals, so I'd definitely be friends with Nina or even more if I was in school with her. Despite her being a fish and having to wear a helmet, she's definitely smart and I think pretty too 😅
R2 has to upgrade his software and hardware simultaneously or he wouldn't know how to access his new hardware
7:22 That Bald Kid might be Lex Luthor
i like the season, it feel like there was missing at least an episode to finish everthing properly, but i imagine thats the problem when this show and character need to flow to another movie or even season. i asume Flag is gonna be use in other thing, probably a cameo in superman, Peacemaker 2 probably have some cameos and reference of the Commandos, all of that, to me the problem is that this individual season feel rush and incomplete. fun charactes, great animations but the plot was very thin and the ending a little bit anticlimatic
perhaps they actually said ghost writer, which is an actual thing in literacy.
At close range many pistols wont exit the body. Especially the glocks that most police use. Neither has the penetration power or speed. But yeah definitely no reason to resort to shooting to kill a guy that posed 0 threat to them. Especially in the back.
The game is called lacrosse
So we just lost Nina for nothing, because Waller cant make a call straight to her team, cool
I knew it would happen, when it happened I got sad either way
Why are these guys dressed for different environments? 😆
It's a good thing James Gunn didn't off Ratchatcher 2 like what he did to ________
Have you noticed how the cops in this show seem to be trigger happy? Feels like there's a point trying to be made here
Lets go! ❤️
A question for americans, did you know that eastern and southern europe isn't just bird poop eating romani and weird castles US heroes get to destroy? Every single time it's in a show it's just that.
It'd be really sad if this is the end of Zoë Chao as Nina Mazursky .. her back story is nonetheless tragic~
I heard in the comic the mummy has healing abilities, so many there’s a way for him to revive Nina! And has even made it so she can breathe on land ( total coping)
Petition for Nina to be alive 😢
James Gunn doesn’t like reverting deaths…. Yet
Deaths need to be permanent. Otherwise death means nothing
@@roxtechs GI Robot says hello
@@LvVStudios he's a robot..
@@roxtechsi mean Starlord nearly died twice in his movies. And Weasel in Suicide Squad.
There's two superman songs that are great for superman, starman david bowie and kryptonite by 3 doors down
What the hell got Nina in prison?
The Nina backstory doesn't really make since the media was like the mysterious sea creature spotted in the harbor of the town where she went to school and was know??? Guess a fish kid going to school being on a sport team and growing up to be an adult didn't make the news?
True, but its seems like in this universe Gunn made, oddities in normal everyday things seem to be not out of place. But then again if it is "normal" in this world why were they so afraid of a creature in the city waters? I mean killer croc literally lives in the sewers but no one bats an eye to address how to get him out. So yeah a bit of a writing mishap on that end
SHE DIDN'T EVEN DOING ANYTHING WHY DID SHE DIE
Why do the nice people always die? Just... WHY?!
Squid game szn 2?
This episode proves how much iv hate being a human what happened to nina how those bully Humans in the school and the cop killed Nina's dad who only one card about his daughter
Wait, so did Kin Shark NOT die in The Suicide Squad? I know it's a new universe but I also know they're still continuing and referencing both that and Peacemaker
No King Shark lived what you mean?
It stuck the landing but didn't quite nail it
It was underwhelming except for the Nina backstory part (which was great mind you) but everything else felt a bit rushed. One more episode would have made it feel more complete IMO
also considering that Dr Phosphorus is from Gotham...how does he not know Clayface is a question I have
What, do you think every mutated monster-person Batman rogue knows each other?
@@hasthehighground8560 I expect most people in Gotham know Clayface, he's not a small villain
@@neminem233lol. Clayface is a small villain on a grand scale. The most violent version of him is a raging maniac killer that is specialized in hiding as a different person everytime he kills. He’s stealthy.
On the other hand most other members of Batman rogue gallery are either gang leaders or public terrorists.
If we see this show even with least logically, it looks like a shit
James Gunn's Marvel & DC Big Bads Ranked
1. High Evolutionary
2. Ego the Living Planet
3. Starro
_Auggie Smith/White Dragon (HONORABLE MENTION)_
4. Ronan the Accuser
5. Gaius Grieves/Thinker
6. Eek Stack Ik Ik
7. Ilana Rostovic
rank the times you've gone outside next
@@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE😂
Felt a little unsatisfied from the finale and not in a good way, hopefully s2 retroactively fixes that by picking up on some plot points like Circe-who just dropped off the face of the show???
I prefer circe being the main villian
The cops really grounded this comicbook show. Just wish Ollie was operating in Star City by then but he’s probably retired since Hal Jordans actor is almost 60
Honestly very upset about the finale. Is his universe just gonna be like this all the time?
Like what exactly?
no? i mean you can’t say now when only one story has come out but there’s multiple writers and stories being written and this definitely was made with a season 2 in mind along with the characters making appearances outside of the show. there’s definitely some problems with the finale but most problems can be fixed or improved upon when writing other projects.
Nina ! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you think they killed her off to rub it in the face of the furries who were baited into watching the show for her ? I feel targeted...
Joke aside, its not everyday i m shocked by a series and i litteraly got up from my chair when she got stab... Truly heatbreaking death...
James Gunn's Marvel & DC Projects Ranked
1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
2. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
3. The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
4. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
5. The Suicide Squad (2021)
6. Peacemaker S1
7. Creature Commandos S1
Guardians of the galaxy 1 is clearly his best work ever and its not even close. Also peacemaker is 50 times better than The Suicide Squad. If youre gonna rank shit at least be good at it
@@PLaStiiCMoNtAGEit’s their opinion go touch some grass.
first comment😂
A Very Funny Monster... what a joke. 🥲🥲🥲