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SAND FILTER vs. CARTRIDGE: What's Best For Your POOL? | Swim University
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- What’s the right filter for your swimming pool: a Pool Sand Filter or a Pool Cartridge Filter? Well, it depends on your pool size, how much money you want to spend, and how much cleaning and maintenance you’re willing to do. We walk through the pros and cons of both sand and cartridge filters.
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⏰ Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Pool Sand Filters vs. Cartridge Filters
00:36 - Sand Filters: How They Work
02:30 - Sand Filter Pros and Cons
02:58 - Cartridge Filters: How They Work
04:02 - Cartridge Filter Pros and Cons
04:32 - What's The Right Size Pool Pump and Filter?
05:01 - Which Is Best: Sand Filters or Cartridge Filters?
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We hope this helps you decide between a sand filter and a cartridge filter! Remember, sand filters are the "workhorse" of filters: they can tackle larger pools and are easy to clean with backwashing (that's great if you have algae issues). Cartridge filters are great for smaller or normal-sized pools and they filter out smaller particles - but they require more hands-on cleaning. And you want more pool maintenance help, grab our free Pool Care Cheat Sheet at www.swimuniversity.com/cheatsheet
Have you tried the filter balls
We have a cartridge filter & at times it’s a hassle to clean plus we were told we only need to clean filter about once every 2-3 months. I have to clean it at least every 2 weeks. I’m having trouble keeping the water clear as well. We purchase at least 4 filters a year.
I have both so I have a 2 stage filtration I have a 400 lb sand filter and a 200 square ft cartridge filter. I also use a dolphin pool cleaner which reduces backwashing significantly
Consider a mess with replacing sand in your sand filter, precautions not to damage collars and fingers, a mess with leaking multiport valves... Is it really simpler to run sand filter? I am in doubt, I have a 50m3 pool with a sand filter, no idea when the previous owner changed sand, and I am thinkg to change for a cartridge type filter. Clean or replace a cartridge is much simpler and cheaper than changing sand, doing maintenance for the sand filter and the multiport valve, etc
I have a cartridge filter and love it. I have a 8000 gallon pool with a oversized filter and Water is super clear and never had a issue yet
What filter do you have?
@@barrymcaully You’ll never know.
I want to buy one I also have a 8000 gal pool. What do you recommend? Do I need 2 or 3 separate things? Idk difference between pump and filter
@@Janaesolts42 pump pulls the water through the filter.
You guys should add debris from plants if you have heavy debris sand needs changed more often. Also for salt pools sand filters cause you to lose the chems needed to maintain parameters to work costing more money to replenish. Such as salt and conditioner.
All of your videos are so incredibly helpful to me as a first time above ground pool owner!!! The one video or instructions that I feel are missing from your library is how to complete an initial set up of a sand filter and pump system.
I’ve seen huge sand filters at public aquariums. If they can keep rare fish alive in a closed looped system , they have to be more than suitable for a pool.
Backwashing sand filter> cleaning filter cartridges for hours on end
What would you consider to be a small size pool and/or a large pool
I think he said sand filter is better for big pools
@@Razorthedog plain English.....what size of pool would be considered large and what size pool would be considered small? He never tells you how many gallons equates to either size pool. If a 24,000 gallon pool is on the small side but a 26,000 gallon pool is on the large side that would be good information to provide. Your reply just reiterates what was said in the video and adds nothing of value to answer this question.
@@600zxr small 2000 gallons large 50000 gallons
I replaced my filter's sand media with recycled glass. I used less than 50% by weight and I also use the trick of adding about two cups of DE. I used the the DE trick on sand as well and its always helped significantly. The glass alone works better than sand. When working in combination with glass, the 20K gallon pool can clear an algae bloom in less than 48 hours of continuous running. The two cups of DE gets replaced after each backwash. Hope this is useful for folks.
Or you know you can just get a DE filter... btw DE will screw up sand... gj...
@@mattlane2282 Certainly, that is a valid path. Would you mind explaining why DE added to sand performs poorly?
@@CallMe_DrWorm it screws up the sand... IF the sand catches it... (most of the time it just ends up in the pool) just like clarifies screw up the sand... you can add cellulose to sand... (like fiber clear) but then why did you not just get a DE filter lol...
your like... hey I got sand, removed the sand, and then added DE...
Sounds like just getting DE filter from the start is way easier since oh idk... "DE trick" is called normal operation on a DE filter?
if you look at anything it will always say do NOT add DE to sand...
@@mattlane2282 You're right. If someone is planning on purchasing a new sand filter only to replace and augment the media, that would be wasted money and effort.
In this case, the pool and sand filter were included with the property. The vinyl liner was replaced and the filter reused. $50 in media and DE is relatively low cost.
It seemed that the DE was making its way through and settling, but it turned out to be algae detritus. Given that most stays in the filter and any that passes will settle quickly, its not difficult to use. Don't notice it at all when swimming and eventually the need to vacuum arises as part of maintenance.
@@CallMe_DrWorm As said... DE passes though the filter, it was not algae lol it was DE, unless you have the pool green you are not going to see any algae drop out you put in DE it passed though... and from (oops) experience, DE works great as a floc, you dispersed DE into the water, it filtered the water on the way down...
they advertise sand filters with glass media down to 5 microns, which is lower then any cartridge filter is advertised to do. I find that interesting. The biggest issue with sand filters is the multiport valve which restricts flow for modern pumps to ~60ish GPM (range from 40-70GPM).
Your right heck I have glass media on my vevor sand filter on my intex pool I love how clear the water is the only thing is if you have a variable speed pump don't let it go above the maximum flow rate
Hi could you make a video on smaller pools like the 10 ft by 6 ft by 18 in inflatable pools. Or something in that range covering care and maintenance without constantly dumping out water, because not everyon has a big pool .please and Thankyou.
I love these videos! Thanks guys.
Great info Ty
I did the cartridge in the beginning and then switched to the sand. The cartridge was a pain in the butt, it required more cleaning and I constantly had issues resealing the unit. When I thought it was sealed I would turn on the pump and of course, it would start spraying everywhere
I agree the filter cartridge is a real pain. And you're always replacing the filter that gets dirty really fast and you can't waste out, the dirty water just sits in the cartridge. With sand it lasts forever. Sand never deteriorates if so we'd never
have beaches.
And you can never get a good seal, always replacing the big o ring and air in the system all the time.
Thanks for this useful review
My pleasure
what's considered are large pool? Mine is 100 perimiter size with 15K gallons is that big? I'm getting sand filter...
Very nice informative video
I have a 18'x52" pool which filter would you recommend? My old pool was 18'x48" and uses a sand filter, but I vacuum and backwash every week and I balance all the chemicals and I still get algae.
The Sand filter is the better hands down. The filter cartridge is a pain, and a money pit. With the sand filter you can discharge the waste out. Not with the cartridge.
What do you think about pool ionizer? I have a 11.000 gallon pool.. is that a good combination? Pool ionizer and a pool filter.. 150 sq. ft.. ?? 😊 Would be great to hear feedbacks..
Great idea ☺️
Great video
I have a pool on the beach, and we get lots of sand. We have a DE filter now. Would a sand filter trap the sand better? TIA
I replaced one of the four filter once a year because they break so each year I have to order new one.
tnx for this! :)
If sand new filter was put in backwards so the suckling went from the suckling went backwards in the sand filter . What must do
Carts are giant pain in the a$$ and expensive. The constant needs to pull them wash / rinse is a massive PIA.
What are you considering a larger pool? 25k?
I have a 4 meter by 12,5 m long pool down in hot Baja California Sur. Would you rather go for sand filter, considering I want to install a low speed water pump needing less energy? It looks like I have pros and cons on both sides ;-)
Do you have space for backwashing? Sounds like a good size for a sand filter. Otherwise if you want to run on low speeds, go for cartridge.
whats your opinion on pool filter balls that go in the sand filter?
wondering the same thing did u find something interressting ?
I have a Intex pool 15x48 and a intex sand pump filter. Intex 2800 Gpm, Is it the right sized for this pool? Also, I have so many problems, such as sand gets in my pool. Then cloudy water, had a green pool a couple of times. I've only had the pool since July 2020, replace the sand pump once due to sand in water. Now seems to have a little of the same. No broken laterals, it seems the pressure gauge is not reading. I have learned more watching your videos. I was considering using pool balls. How effective is that? Or should I get a cartridge filter?
It's probably a bad design heck my cheep summer waves one did the same thing
Has anyone upgraded their Pentair Triton with the ClearPro kit? I can't find any information on the web about it. Its supposed to make the filter 60% more effective and catching small particles. I just purchased a Triton TR100, but can't find any materials on the upgrade kit. Please advise.
Return it, get DE done... rofl
My cartridge filter only lasts a year here in FL
I am confused. Can you use a Filter cartridge in place of sand?
Of course, but it's an entirely different unit.
You'll have to buy the cartridge filter system but I wouldn't if I were you. I've had both systems and the hayward sand filter is the best by far. The cartridge filter is a nightmare.
My filter came with cotton balls, but the intruction book says it’s a cartridge filter. I thought sand and cotton were interchangeable so how is this a cartridge filter?
What brand filter is it? Usually those balls are for sand filters.
The small square footage for a sand filter can be misleading as the particles are not always trapped on the surface of the sand bed, different particle sizes and shapes will see their own level in the sand.
Sand filter with chlorinator, all day
What do u mean by chlorinator?
Ikr sand filters are superior to cartage if I spilt tee in my pool with a Carthage murky water but now with my sand filter gone in 2 mins
@@tomnape28 A chlorinator automatically dispenses chlorine into your pool. Check it out: www.swimuniversity.com/pool-chlorinator/
@@tomnape28 that is for salt water. You connect a salt water chlorinator to your system and add salt to your pool water and it turns it into chlorine. Much better than using chlorine tablets.
Sand with salt system all day
will K1 media work?
Have you had any luck with "filter balls" in place of sand?
Stock tank pools are the rage! Do you have any comments about filters for a small application such as a stock tank? Thanks!
I just moved in a new place with a pool on sand filter. How can I tell if it's time to replace the sand in the filter?
as described the pressure will raise up from what it currently is.
How do you clean a sand filter
Watch the video
Any thoughts or comparisons against a DE filter?
Check out our full write-up about Sand vs. Cartridge vs. DE Filters here: www.swimuniversity.com/pool-filter/ DE Filters filter the best but they're the most expensive and the most maintenance.
Just don't... Get either sand or cartridge to stay stress free
Get DE... both these guys have no clue what they are talking about...
BEST filtration...
easiest to clean....
Omg you need to add DE after a backwash... read the comments here... people are adding DE to their sand filters rofl...
Thank GOD I have cartridge filter for my new above pool 👍🏻
Rinse your cartridge filters once a week?
Have an 8k gal in ground pool and wash the cartridige once/month in summer and maybe twice during the entire winter. Also depends on how much crud and debris get in your pool and how well you clean and maintain it. I don't do all the rigamarole with the filter cleaning either: just hose it off with the jet setting on the hose and that's it, and change cartridge every 3 to 4 years. Based on owning my pool for 11 years the way I am doing it works (pool is always crystal clear), and this video while helpful, is OVERkill on the maintenance.
@@robassable . Agreed 100%.
I don't do that, I do use socks on my skimmer though to filter more debris though, and never have any issues with algae etc.. as I keep my pool at good levels
He meant once a year. I did mine every 6 months and that’s too often. Pressure reads 8 psi when clean and I clean at 18 psi which the filters aren’t even that bad so I am now washing them once a year around 20 psi
@robassable would like to know what chemicals you use. I’m having trouble keeping my pool clear.
Cannot believe you didn’t include DE filters here as well; would have loved your views on this very popular filtration option.
Too much to include in one video ;-) But we do have a whole review here about Sand vs. Cartridge vs. DE Filters www.swimuniversity.com/pool-filter/
I just started up my DE filter pool for the year terrible maintenance to start but once he get it going it's awesome
This dude can only post some much bad info in one vid... Cartridge is bad for large pools? need to slow down the flow? LOL its 1gpm per sqft they flow more than sand...
It would be (if someone knew what they were talking about)
Sand, cheap junk stay away
Cartridge, great if you can not backwash and add water (bad well water, dry area)
DE, best filter, get it.
How much is the catridge filter
We want to get a cartridge filter for our 18x36 oval pool that’s around 25,000 gallons and replace the sand filter, is my size pool too big? Thx
Just go with a glass media in you sand filter. It filters 5 microns lower than a cartridge filter.
what constitutes a large pool?
Small is below 10,000, large is above 20,000.
Cartridge all the way
Cartridge filter for me alot better
What is considered a large pool?
15,000+ Gallons would be considered large. I have a 10k gallon and it's considered a "cocktail pool".
Glass
DE all day
How many gallons is in a "Small" or Big" pool?
We have a guide with the recommended filter/size based on how many gallons your pool holds: www.swimuniversity.com/pool-filter/
I have a DE filter and I hate it
Please do share why
Go with a DE filter. It’s the best filter. The DE filter will filter 2 microns. Do your own research.
my dad bought a pool that came with a sand filter
Honestly, it sucks.
way way way too much work.
How does a cartridge filter better if the smallest it filters down to is LARGER than a sand filter. It makes no sense
d.e
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