How We Do It: Interior Drain Tile System
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2014
- What is an interior drain tile system?
An interior drain tile system manages water entering your home's foundation or crawl space. The system helps to channel water away from your foundation and basement, reducing the risk of flooding and water damage. Over time, water can weaken your foundation and cause cracks and other structural problems. An interior drain tile system can help to protect your foundation and extend its lifespan.
Which system is better interior or exterior drain tile?
The choice between an interior or exterior drain tile system depends on the specific needs of your home and your budget. Both systems are designed to manage water entering your foundation but have different installation methods and advantages. It's best to consult a professional to evaluate your situation and recommend the best solution for your home.
What is the advantage of drain tile?
Interior drain tile systems effectively manage water that enters from below the foundation, such as groundwater or a high water table. By channeling water away from your foundation and basement, interior drain tile can help to prevent flooding and water damage. Interior drain tile systems can be installed relatively quickly and with minimal disruption to your home.
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Key Moments:
00:51 Basement Inspection
00:44 Breaking Concrete
02:52 Sump Pump Installation
03:07 Relief Hole
04:40 Burying Pipe
05:12 Water Discharge Line Installation
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Nice work. I've seen so many videos of crap work, good to see someone that knows wtf they are doing.
Thanks Mike!
Nice overview for me - just needed a breakdown of what I will be having done to my basement so I can talk the language when with the crew. Thx!
You bet, happy to help!
GREAT VIDEO
Thank you!
Good Job Guys. Like to see drainage guys using solid rigid pvc pipe for the gutter drain system. It's the right way to do it! Thumbs up...
Thanks guys! We do like doing things the right way!
look very simple done great job with 2 people.
Thank you!
Great job looks a pro
Thank you much, Ben! You should check out our newer Drain Tile Video if you liked that one!
ruclips.net/video/YLoq4xCPibA/видео.html
the great job !
Thanks Bob!
I'm glad my basement was designed without a sump pump. I don't have a noisy motor running and it doesn't leak.
Glad to hear you don't have any issues!
How come when you drill the hole below the check valve, you said something like "make sure it's pointed away from the valve" ?
Apologies for the late response, John. The hole below the check valve is to relieve pressure. All sump pumps installed with a check valve should have this 1/8" hole in the pvc. This hole is pointed away from the float switch because water will come out of it when the pump is cycling.
Great video on tile installation. Whats the name of the clear plastic L channel material you guys use in the video. Gotta find some to do my grannys basement next month...thanks!!
+Eric Faulkner Sorry it took us so long to get back to you, Eric. That product was Hydrochannel, however any foldable dimple board will do. The point is to make a gap between the foundation wall and the newly poured concrete so any water coming down the wall can make it into the Drain Tile System.
+Austin Werner I've seen elsewhere 6 mil plastic sheets also covering the wall and tucked behind the dimple board. Do you find it sufficient without the plastic sheet?
Hi Bigdave, sorry for the late response. We did find it sufficient in this situation as it is a poured concrete wall. In a block foundation, we would certainly have the plastic sheet added, as they leak much more through the wall.
Great video! Looking through options for dealing with water issues in the basement of our 100-yr-old house. You mentioned this is a "partial" drain tile system. Is it worth installing a drain channel along only one wall in a basement, if that's the area where the water seems to be coming in, or does the drain system really only work effectively if it covers the full perimeter of the basement? Want added protection over here but am having a hard time accepting the costs associated with a full perimeter system (plus wall stabilization, etc., not to mention costs of restoring basement to previous finished state!).
Hi Jeff! Great question. While doing only one wall can be effective if dealing with limited water from one area, you have described having to do wall stabilization as well.
When we run into having to do foundation repair along with waterproofing, the problem is usually more widespread. Although you are only seeing the water from one area, it is likely that it is settling and gathering all along the foundation.
In addition, you mentioned finishing the basement. Last thing you want to do is refinish the basement and have to come back to do more work later, and have to refinish again.
Best to get it all done so you can put the money into the basement to make it a nice finished space in this case, especially if you are dealing with some foundation repair on top of it.
What area are you in? If you aren't in ours (Chicagoland), we have friends around the country that could possibly help you as well!
@@Therealsealllc thanks for the reply! Still haven’t decided what we’re going to do, but nice to have the information to make an informed decision.
@@jsoon71 Happy to help!
So is the drain tile sloped to the sump? If so, how do you grade it?
Hi John, apologies for the late response. The drain tile is indeed sloped towards the sump pit. Generally, 1/8" of drop per linear foot is sufficient to keep the system working properly. We would measure this when we dig the trench and pour a gravel base, and check it once the drain tile was installed.
Thanks for the video! I have a few questions if you don't mind. 1) Does the sump basin have a hole cut into it already and you just connected the drain pipe to that? 2) how much of a gap should I leave between the foundation and the new cement and how did you maintain that gap when finishing the new cement? 3) how deep does the drainage pipe outside need to be and what size pvc would you recommend? Thank you!!!
Hi Nick! Thanks for the questions!
1) We core a new 4" hole into the sump basin. The height of the hole changes depending on the length of the system. The 4" Drain Tile then goes directly into that.
2) You may use a dimple board in order to create and maintain the gap between the foundation and new cement. A gap of 1/4"-1/2" will work.
3) The Drainage Pipe outside, we call a Discharge Line, only needs to be a few inches below grade. The idea is the water is moved, much like a gutter downspout, to discharge in the yard. It can also be tied into a storm sewer, as long as the township allows it.
Hope this helps!
@@Therealsealllc thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions!
You bet! Happy to help!
Hello Real Seal. I was wondering what the name of the plastic liner is that you put down before the concrete was poured ? Thanks.
That is a simple dimple board. We use a slightly different product now. But as long as it creates a gap between the foundation wall and your newly poured concrete, you will have an effective way to capture the water coming down the wall.
Thank you very much for responding. Would you be so kind to share the name of the product that you are using now? Thanks.
It is called a dimpled drain board.
How do you do this with a foundation that has a monolith poured floor and foundation in one
Hello! If you are on a slab with no crawl space and are experiencing seepage in your home, the best way would be to approach the problem from the outside. A similar system can be used outside, alongside yard drainage and gutter extensions to keep the water away from the home.
Very nice video. Is the new concrete too thin? I would have made it 6" deep. Concrete is so cheap it's cheap insurance.
+Andy Denial We always like to make the concrete as thick as possible. In this case, the concrete could not have been poured 6" thick, as that would bring it below the footing. As the drain tile needs to be sitting next to the footing, it made that 6" thickness impossible. We instead re-poured the concrete the same thickness as we took out.
cool to know! thanks for responding!
Happy to have helped!
Cpuld you use a pvc pipe instead of the corrugated platic inside the house and in which circumstance is one over the other used?
Hi Rickiy!
Yes, you can use either corrugated or pvc pipe for the drain tile. Either one works perfectly fine and will come with the same warranty.
We use pvc when in the City of Chicago as it is required by code. Otherwise, we use corrugated.
**Important thing to note with PVC Drain Tile**
The perforated holes MUST be face-down. The Drain Tile will NOT work if the holes are pointed up. And the sad reality is a lot of companies will install the pvc drain tile incorrectly. We have replaced 2 of those systems this year alone.
As always, be sure you hire the right company. Read the reviews, get multiple quotes, don't be sold by a pushy sales rep.
Great video of the know how. Good team work. Not a very good blow out on the brick wall. You should come from the other direction (from the exterior to the interior) with the drill bit.
Correct, Derrick. We had a pilot hole installed, but that did not suffice in this case.
thanks for the reply I just mentioned a pilot hole from the inside going out and then drill your main hole from the outside in. But thank you I learned a lot I just finished my first drain tile job yesterday got a lot of insight from your video thanks for your work
Happy to have helped!
I've seen a lot of diagrams with the gravel starting at the lowest point of the footing, the perforated drain pipe and gravel on top of that. My footing is only 6" thick. Would it be detrimental to dig below (not underneath the footing) a few inches so I can get a few inches of gravel below the footing? My guess is no because the sump basin is more than a foot below the footing.
Hi Jonasinc1! We would not ever recommend digging underneath the footing. That can undermine the structure. The drain tile should be laid right next to the footing, buried in a bed of washed stone or pea gravel. You do not need to go much below the footing for a gravel base, just as long as the drain tile is next to and not on top of the footing.
The whole point is to capture the water before it gets to the basement floor level, redirect it and pump it away from the home.
I planned things out. I'm going to go an inch below (not under) the footing. I'm going to use 3/4" river rock.
Very good!
Should I be worried about hitting my foundation with the jack hammer? Or will the concert break away first?
Good question! There is not much worry with the foundation. The floor and foundation are two separate concrete pours, so the concrete floor will come out without damage to the foundation.
Some waterproofing companies do infact chip away at the footings if they need to in order to fit their system in. My local Basement Systems franchise butchered our footers. Had I known that would be part of the process, I wouldn't of let them anywhere near our basement!
Also, as far as I understand it, not all footers are perfect pours with delineated edges as they are depicted in so many basement waterproofing videos.
Is a interior drain tile needed if I only get seepage in a few areas of my basement? I get water coming through the grains of my last cinder block closest to floor. The other side is the footing coming in, Is the drain tile worth the money ?
Yes, it is definitely worth it and you should get a full perimeter system. With cinder block, it's only a matter of time before it leaks in other areas as well.
A reputable company should install an Interior Drain Tile System with a Lifetime Warranty as well, alleviating any future concerns.
@@Therealsealllc Thanks for the quick response!! Would it be okay to do half now and half later? Also will it reduce pressure under the basement floor. I worry it will weaken my walls and have radon
@@keithschneider4483 You can do half now and half later, just be sure you pitch the Drain Tile correctly remember it won't stop water from coming through cracks in the floor until it's the full perimeter system.
No vapor barrier between concrete and gravel?
Yes, we have a vapor barrier that goes between the concrete and gravel. This older video does not showcase that as well. Our newer Drain Tile Video does. Good observation!
why did you use corriagted pipe inside instead of perferated pvc style
easier to intstall.
Hi Robert! The perforated sewer pipe is used for Exterior Drain Tile Applications to help prevent collapse of the pipe. As the interior system has no settlement or extra weight on the system above the concrete, there is no need to use it.
Bo Duke does drain tile work? cool... ;)
Hahaha! Dukes of Hazzard!
This kind of job doesn't come cheap. My folks just had this kind of setup put in their house..$20K. Very labor intense. Hell of a career choice. lol
Most of our systems do not cost nearly that much money. That must have been a particularly big house or had some add-ons with the system that did not pertain to the seepage issue.
Solid work, but as a mason 3:45 would have got me upset if i was the homeowner.. useful tip... you always cut things through the face first if you want the cleanedt cut. Lumber, stone , anything really !
Good Catch, YoungPrince! We do cut things through the face of the brick nowadays. This was one of our original videos 10 years ago. My how the time flies!
@Therealsealllc there you go. Yeah I'll never forgot one of my foreman hollering at me as an apprentice. Lol I was a stone mason apprentice but he asked for a 2x something cut. And I didn't cut it through the face. I cut it with it laying flat. Lol not major but he lost it. But he did bring up a good point. Cutting any material through the face will give you a cleaner look.
@@youngprince716 You're absolutely right, and all our cuts look much cleaner now that we do them from the face.
Do you guarantee that that's going to stop the water from coming into the basement..
Hi Elvira! We put a Lifetime Warranty against seepage from the floor, and in the case of wall covering/epoxy injections, from the walls as well.
If your pump stops working, the power goes out, the backup battery goes dead, or there's a clog in the system, you will be in a worse spot than if you had done nothing at all.
Because the slap dash concrete work which basement waterproofing companies pour isn't designed to block water and it will form a poor bond to the existing slab, so if things go awry, you can now expect water to be streaming in around the entire perimeter of your basement unimpeded, because they've removed that all-important buffer of compacted undisturbed soil and a thick uniform slab in order to install a glorified gutter to allow water to collect inside of your home, rather than keeping it out where it belongs.
Hi UToobin 75!
Thanks for the comment! You are absolutely correct. If absolutely EVERYTHING goes wrong and fails, they will have a flood. Same goes for your vehicle. If EVERY brake, gas, airbag, safety system, and electrical were to fail all at once, you'll be in worse spot than if you ever got in a vehicle in the first place.
This is no reason not to protect yourself. It is important to ensure the largest investment most people ever make is protected, and waterproofing your foundation is a practical and logical, as has been proven by engineers across the world.
Also, especially in Chicago, there are FEW thick, uniform slabs that are monolithic (one pour). Very few. Most basement floors are poured after the walls, and since concrete does not make bonds with dry concrete, there is always an open seam there.
How much does something like this go for?
Hi Rachel! Good question. It depends on the size of the system. But your typical range is between 10-15k with the pumps and discharge lines.
How much does something like this cost? We have a 115yr old home and this seems like a better alternative than digging outside to add the drain tile. We are south of Chicago about 70 miles.
Thanks
Hi Dirk! I apologize for the late response. It is hard to estimate without seeing the basement. Most companies will provide a free estimate, so it would be very worth it to have somebody out to take a look.
Y did you go w/the cloth drain tile
Cloth Drain Tile is code in Chicagoland and surrounding cities. We are sure to install every system according to your municipality's code requirements.
How much is a job like that?
Hi Jason! Jobs like this are dependent on the length of the footage of the Drain Tile, discharge line, pumps used, and any demolition that may be needed. We have outlined the process of pricing transparently on our website. Check it out! (www.therealsealllc.com/leak-types/drain-tile)
my basement has narrow channels and the rocks atop the pipes leading to the pump are exposed, meaning, never covered w concrete. Is this normal? Thanks.
Hi Roy!
No, it is not normal. A finished system should have concrete over it from the interior. Unless you are in a crawl space where there is no concrete floor at all. In that case, we would recommend you encapsulate the crawl space.
Thank you for the reply. What I am wondering is, what is the point of these rock channels? They added it when they installed the French drain, which is working normally via the larger, corrugated pipes., which are covered over w concrete.
Should I cover these rocks w concrete? Thank you again@@Therealsealllc
@@Roy-xe9is Do you have a picture you can send so I can see exactly what you are talking about? You can send them to Office@TheRealSeal.com and put Attention Austin via RUclips and they will pass it my way.
@@Therealsealllc Thank you Austin. Yes, I will send this evening. Much appreciated.
@@Roy-xe9is Happy to help, thank you!
Its nice to see Logan Paul before he got famous on youtube
hahahahahahaha
Why is it that nobody does one of these videos in a home that does NOT have a footer?
Hi, Jay. Thanks for your inquiry. Firstly, there are not many homes that do not have footers. These homes that were not built with footers date back (many times) 100 years with foundations that needs more extensive work than a drain tile. Homes without footers tend to have more structural problems, as footers are installed to help prevent settlement.
Years late, but there are a few out there now. They involve adding piers or buttresses to shore up the foundation wall before adding drainage. It's a heck of a job.
Correct! Or pouring a new footing underneath the wall. Another option would even be to install a steel beam under the wall. Definitely a heck of a job!
Fabric over the pipe is not good..Thats why you install clean outs....
Hi Rick!
Unfortunately that will get your system clogged up, especially in silty soil. It is also code to install Drain Tile with a filter sock for this very reason, is standard practice throughout the industry, and has been for decades.
Weather the Drain Tile is installed on the interior or exterior of the foundation, you always want a filter sock and a bed of gravel to help ensure the system does not clog.
@@Therealsealllc Thanks for your reply, i dont understand why silty soil doesn't clog the sock..
@@Rick-tb4so The gravel first works to filter out the silty soil. The sock further prevents it from getting into the system, clogging the pipe and messing with the sump pump.
In extreme situations, we have seen the sock get clogged. In this case, we were able to replace (under warranty) the pipe, while keeping the rest of the system functional.
The final piece of that is your discharge line. The silty soil can end up in your yard (where most discharge lines are), creating a little beach! And although we all want to go to the beach, I don't think we'd all want to find a pile of sand in our back yard.
PVC pipe the green pipe would have been better easier to maintain pitch
Hi Jean Alexandre! Good catch, and you are correct! This video is quite a few years old, and we have updated our products/installation to include the SDR-35 Green Pipe!
Would like to see how you delt with that broken brick.🦇
Oh yeah, was an old video and learned my lesson there. Nowadays we prevent that by drilling from the outside and inside and meeting in the middle.
For that, I ended up patching with hydraulic cement.
@@Therealsealllc I love an honest answer. Many people would cover comment that reply. Good for you! That is what I thought would have been the cause. I am closing in on doing my crawl space as after 36 years in a hard rain we draw water. Doing home work now. Too old to do it myself but need to know the facts. Sure I have avoided a huge mistake by watching videos like yours. Not sure how to attach dimple board when doing a crawl.Shame you are not in my Va. area.🦇
@@dustbat We're big fans of growing, and that means learning from our mistakes.
For the dimple board attachment, you can secure to the wall via pins into the concrete, or just leave it with the concrete over it like in our videos. If you encapsulate the crawl space, you don't need to secure it at all, as the encapsulation will be covering it up.
Best way to find a good company around you is to go to review sites like Yelp, Angie's, BBB and read and compare the reviews to find the company that suits you best.
Always feel free to reach out with any questions!
@@Therealsealllc I think I am getting there. Thanks for all this help. One more thing. Crawl space. No concrete. Now I would have a trench below the footer for drain pipes. Also I am way below our dirt floor level. So if I stopped here you would have a trench open where you could step off. So, do I have the whole thing filled in with rock.? I am sure we do not put dirt back.🦇
@@dustbat first thing is to not go beneath the footer. If your dirt level is that low already, I suggest putting gravel in there to get over the footer level. Then you can install your Drain Tile at footer level, with a 1/8" per foot slope, and then encapsulate the crawl space.