Abbey is a match for Jed in mind and strength of spirit. She once told Leo's daughter against "falling for the geniuses" because they "never want to sleep". Jed's a genius, but Abbey clearly is one as well.
Abbey's work ethic is so beyond reproach here. It doesn't matter if you get dragged to court or you get convicted. You set the damn leg. And she isn't even being preachy about it, just stating a factual reality. This is the reason Sorkin's stuff is so addictive. It's about people doing their goddamn best no matter which side of the aisle they're on.
It's also a perfect example of his fatal flaw. He's a big picture person and he focuses his attention on what he considers important. That means he neglects the "little things" but those little things can turn out to be people. He needs people, like Abbey, to keep him grounded.
@@nottoomuch87 It is also a play on Martin Sheen inability to remember the names of anybody. After 4 years working together he still called Allison Janney "Tall girl" because he couldn't remember her name.
I agree with Abby, when you become a doctor you take the Hippocratic oath, if you're not going to take an oath like that seriously don't become a doctor.
TheGr8stManEvr Yeah but the doctor who didn't want to do the surgery was supposed to operate the son of a man who not only order the killing of members of his family but also could kill the doctor himself should the operation fail.
@@John-Adams the oath you take as a doctor is more important than the legislation. You don't treat the patient in front of you for THAT reason, doesn't matter if the decision is legal or not, no other medical professional will want to work with you.
Obscure similarity here and I'm unsure what the West Wing/Discworld venn diagram is like, but there's a line like this in Night Watch. "You treat the patient right in front of you, or people die".
"Never mind" Abbey doesn't mind because he's just allowed her to have input on foreign policy, and given him a perspective he would not have otherwise seen. Which the preceding conversation shows us is important to her (apparently more so than the women's sewing thing)
@@MistrDamige No, it shows Jed is an asshole who doesn't care enough about his wife to remember what the hell she was doing (Jed Bartlet is my favorite character on TWW, but he has flaws). Total dick move; she really helped him out!
Lmao you really think that JED BARTLET doesnt know, remember and knows the date of the Womens Caucus? You are either incredibly stupid or have no idea who this character is. That was a joke that Abbey just gave up on answering. Jed is extremely quick witted as is evidence with his joke about the cat who was a maid.
I totally agree, but it is a part of his character the more I think about it. Even though he’s very liberal he expresses relief his daughter isn’t gay in later seasons. Only so much of the Catholic patriarchal upbringing you can grow out of I suppose
Abbey is completely correct, doctors will treat a convicted child sex offender if needed to be - that is the beauty of medicine. Anyone will be treated the same way
However they’re risking the health, future and lives of thousands of women across numerous states currently due to the draconian misogynistic laws currently in place to control female bodies and health decisions. Instead of treating the patients that are in front of them they are actively allowing them to bleed out, develop sepsis, suffer lifelong complications and die. I hope each and every one of these "doctors" gets sued for their negligent actions. I miscarried in the early’00s, took a few days and a friend shoving a pregnancy test at me to figure it out as I have Endometriosis (which was undiagnosed at the time) so frequently had irregular, random heavy bleeding that included clots. I was also on birth control. When I was checked out I was very lucky that due to my Endo it wasn’t an Ectopic pregnancy (something I’ve since learned was a risk for me particularly) and that I didn’t require a D&C. I can’t begin to imagine how much more terrifying it must be to go to the hospital for help and for them to go "nuh huh shan’t unless you’re about to DIE" I’ve never been as disgusted by so-called health professionals since whilst suffering extreme depression and ptsd from discovering my father dead from a stroke and being the one doing CPR until assistance arrived only to lose him two days later on my birthday whilst having just escaped a 5yr DV relationship where I was emotionally, psychologically, financially and sexually abused the "therapist" called into question what I had to be depressed about (as I was *such* a pretty girl don’t you know) but if I really wanted the assistance I needed my best bet was to stop fighting my suicidal thoughts, give it a go!, and that’d get me treated faster and at the necessary level. Took me nearly a decade to give any mental health services a chance again.
He was Deputy CoS, meaaning he was Leo's number 2. His responsibilities were mostly in crafting domestic policy and working members of the House and Senate (i.e. whipping votes)
"Through the power vested in me by you." TWW scripts were incredible!
Abbey is a match for Jed in mind and strength of spirit. She once told Leo's daughter against "falling for the geniuses" because they "never want to sleep". Jed's a genius, but Abbey clearly is one as well.
Jed>Abbey
Bill>Hillary
Abbey's work ethic is so beyond reproach here. It doesn't matter if you get dragged to court or you get convicted. You set the damn leg. And she isn't even being preachy about it, just stating a factual reality. This is the reason Sorkin's stuff is so addictive. It's about people doing their goddamn best no matter which side of the aisle they're on.
😂😂😂 Jed not knowing the difference between the cat and the housekeeper is pure comedy.
It's also a perfect example of his fatal flaw. He's a big picture person and he focuses his attention on what he considers important. That means he neglects the "little things" but those little things can turn out to be people. He needs people, like Abbey, to keep him grounded.
@@Ladco77 Yeah, she definitely keeps that ego in check.
@@nottoomuch87 It is also a play on Martin Sheen inability to remember the names of anybody. After 4 years working together he still called Allison Janney "Tall girl" because he couldn't remember her name.
He blew the First Lady's assistant's name too. "Hey, Terry.", "Bobby, sir", "... yeah." doors shut. Classic Jed. Was never good with the names.
@@Ladco77 Its similar to how brilliant mathematicians that can do all of these hard equations don't feel bothered to do simple math.
Stockard Channing is pure gold.....delightfully entertaining....in all of her performances....TV...FILM...STAGE...
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That’s the way it goes. You set the leg.
Stockard Channing is brilliant in everything she does. Abbey was a character she could really get her teeth into, and it shows.
She was really good in Where the Heart Is with Natalie Portman.
I love this conversation.
I agree with Abby, when you become a doctor you take the Hippocratic oath, if you're not going to take an oath like that seriously don't become a doctor.
TheGr8stManEvr Yeah but the doctor who didn't want to do the surgery was supposed to operate the son of a man who not only order the killing of members of his family but also could kill the doctor himself should the operation fail.
Sankento doesn’t matter you set the leg. That’s being a doctor.
Meanwhile the UK parliament has a bill saying doctors can refuse service for people deemed "racist, sexist, homophobic".
@@John-Adams the oath you take as a doctor is more important than the legislation. You don't treat the patient in front of you for THAT reason, doesn't matter if the decision is legal or not, no other medical professional will want to work with you.
Hippocratic oath?
Obscure similarity here and I'm unsure what the West Wing/Discworld venn diagram is like, but there's a line like this in Night Watch. "You treat the patient right in front of you, or people die".
The family cat took up massage
...and it's Bartlet with a quick jab as the round ends.
"Never mind" Abbey doesn't mind because he's just allowed her to have input on foreign policy, and given him a perspective he would not have otherwise seen. Which the preceding conversation shows us is important to her (apparently more so than the women's sewing thing)
@@MistrDamige No, it shows Jed is an asshole who doesn't care enough about his wife to remember what the hell she was doing (Jed Bartlet is my favorite character on TWW, but he has flaws). Total dick move; she really helped him out!
Lmao you really think that JED BARTLET doesnt know, remember and knows the date of the Womens Caucus? You are either incredibly stupid or have no idea who this character is. That was a joke that Abbey just gave up on answering. Jed is extremely quick witted as is evidence with his joke about the cat who was a maid.
I love the West Wing, but President Bartlet's dismissal of Abbey's "Women's" activities grates on the the more times I watch it.
I totally agree, but it is a part of his character the more I think about it. Even though he’s very liberal he expresses relief his daughter isn’t gay in later seasons. Only so much of the Catholic patriarchal upbringing you can grow out of I suppose
Abbey is completely correct, doctors will treat a convicted child sex offender if needed to be - that is the beauty of medicine. Anyone will be treated the same way
However they’re risking the health, future and lives of thousands of women across numerous states currently due to the draconian misogynistic laws currently in place to control female bodies and health decisions. Instead of treating the patients that are in front of them they are actively allowing them to bleed out, develop sepsis, suffer lifelong complications and die. I hope each and every one of these "doctors" gets sued for their negligent actions.
I miscarried in the early’00s, took a few days and a friend shoving a pregnancy test at me to figure it out as I have Endometriosis (which was undiagnosed at the time) so frequently had irregular, random heavy bleeding that included clots. I was also on birth control. When I was checked out I was very lucky that due to my Endo it wasn’t an Ectopic pregnancy (something I’ve since learned was a risk for me particularly) and that I didn’t require a D&C. I can’t begin to imagine how much more terrifying it must be to go to the hospital for help and for them to go "nuh huh shan’t unless you’re about to DIE"
I’ve never been as disgusted by so-called health professionals since whilst suffering extreme depression and ptsd from discovering my father dead from a stroke and being the one doing CPR until assistance arrived only to lose him two days later on my birthday whilst having just escaped a 5yr DV relationship where I was emotionally, psychologically, financially and sexually abused the "therapist" called into question what I had to be depressed about (as I was *such* a pretty girl don’t you know) but if I really wanted the assistance I needed my best bet was to stop fighting my suicidal thoughts, give it a go!, and that’d get me treated faster and at the necessary level.
Took me nearly a decade to give any mental health services a chance again.
I never figured out what Josh's job was. He just seems to walk around with a large ego, and complaining and whining about things.
Deputy Chief of Staff, if I remember rightly. Leo's right hand, more or less.
That *was* his job. And he did it brilliantly.
His official job was domestic policy, but that was touch n go. 🤷🏾♀️
@@moimeself1088 lmao!!!
He was Deputy CoS, meaaning he was Leo's number 2. His responsibilities were mostly in crafting domestic policy and working members of the House and Senate (i.e. whipping votes)