After multiple solid reviews I just ordered the Nittos in 33 x 18 for my Silverado 2wd 1500. Note that both these tires feature different sidewalk tread patterns on both sides to choose from. Good review
Nitro Ridge Grappler is my favorite tire at the moment. Works great in all weather, and with aggressive look without the loudness on the road. I like how soft they feel as well.
I have had two sets of 35 inch nitto ridge grapplers. I average about 70,000 miles per set. Very quite and nice ridding. It tows very well also. Both sets, the rear tires felt loose for first 2000 miles until they break in. I contacted nitto on recommended tire pressure for 2011 Duramax hd2500 and they recommended I run 57 psi in front and 67 psi in rear on my Duramax. I love these tires
I ran the Nitto Trail Grapplers 35x12.5 R20s for over a year and absolutly britalized them on all kinds of terrain and especially rock crawliing and mud and I loved them, but they were sketchy AF on icy or wet roads and were relatively loud. I was going to switch to Hankook dynapro mt2's but the tire sales person made me an insane deal on five Nitto Ridge Grapplers and I couldn't say,"No". I have been very happy with them. First thing I did is take them rock crawling in teh rainy season so ther was also PLENTY of mud and they perfromed VERY well. The noise was vastly less than my Old MTs and the road performance was also MUCH better. I do think that the MT's had slightly better grip in mud and steep rock inclines, but these got me over all the obsdtacles I went over and I had no issues. I will stick with them and see how they wear which seemed a bit of an issue with the MT's. The Nitto trail garpplers still had PLENTY of tread and worked great, but the base of the rubber (empty areas between lugs) did develop some weird "dry rot" veining and cracks which was a little disconcerting. Those lasted me about 46k-50k miles before swapping them out, but they couldv'e easly gone another 20k. We'll see how these Ridge grapplers work out.
I have ran both on my 07 2500 duramax. Toyos we’re good tires, lasted about 15k miles less than the Nittos. Nittos were better on the icy roads in north east Oregon. RTs were quieter. Nittos were cheaper. After I made the switch to nitro ridge grapplers I haven’t looked back. On my 4th set and I love them. They could both be better in the ice and slush. They both will get pulled around badly in slush.
I've got 70,400 miles on my 33x12.50r20 ridge grapplers rotated every 5k and they are still in great shape. 2019 f150 I live on 2 miles of Oklahoma dirt roads and commute 40 miles one way to work. Tow a 6k pound boat every weekend during the summer these tires are great.
I’m running the 37x12.5.18 ridge grapplers with methods also on my 20 Silverado 2500 with the FabTech 6in lift. I’m also very happy. Just been playing around with the psi to find the sweet spots for front and back.
I’ve got the toyos on my Ford truck and nitto on the dodge truck. Been happy with both. Had the toyos the longest, so we’ll see how nitto does in the long run
I like the Ridge Grapplers, but had to ensure they stayed at 65 PSI on the fronts for my Dodge 2500. Any lower pressure and they would wear funny on each tread shoulder block. The alignment was spot on. I’m currently running Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs and prefer them over the Ridge Grapplers.
Nitto Exo Grappler AWT work amazing on my Ram 2500 MegaCab. Work great off road and have had a long tread life already.. about half tread at 35k miles. Also pretty quiet on the highway. They also retain towing abilities being an E rated tire.
I have the Ridge Grapplers on my 3rd gen and they are worth every penny so far. They are only slightly louder than the terra grappler g2s I had previously.I still need to test them in sand and snow
'21 I just bought the Nitto Ridge Grapplers because i had limited tires i could get 265/70/18. And they only cost $ 300 each. I did want the Trail Grapplers but i couldn't get any. Sold out everywhere. But for my first drive home i barely even heard any tire noise. But ill have to see if they're going to be enough for hunting season ? Snow,mud. We'll see.
Looks like the public has made the decision to choose the Nitto Ridge Grappler, as I am the proud purchaser of the LAST 4 of those tires available in the United States (as of April 2021). I had Nitto Terra Grappler G2s on my truck, which I just replaced with the Ridges. I have noticed NO loud noise on the road and the griping on paved turns is phenomenal. I bought the 315/70r17 size tires on custom rims with a 6" negative aspect. My ATs lasted me for over 50,000 miles and 5 years of freeway, dirt, and regular street driving, and I expect at least that from the Ridge Grapplers.
How do they handle in the snow and rain? I’m looking to make decision soon and the Toyo has that beautiful 45000 warranty, but I live in Utah and am in snow all the time.
I have on my 2008 Dodge ram 2500 mega cab I put 34 1/2 x 12“ Nitto ridge grappler‘s I feel like they’re probably my favorite tire ever like ever some thing about those side lugs just puts me in a good mood
@ricky2shoez215 maybe it's not the tire it's the guy behind the keyboard who has no idea of what this tire can actually do an it's place in the world. The 888 is a great tire on the street and good tire on the track I would argue the ra1 was a better track tire then the 888r but it was not a street tire. Then again a 60 rating vers 100 is all you should know. And to say the 888r is garbage shows you have no idea what your talking about.
@@fc3sboy1 I didn't mean to offend you dude. It was just my own opinion that doesn't even really matter. Although you took it as a statement apparently I have had terra grappler trail grapplers and most recent ridge grapplers so yes I will say they suck. I don't doubt you at all with there street/track tires but he's mentioning off-road tires bro lol your kinda eating your own words unless you have had there off-road tires.
If you're not getting the mileage out of the Grapplers would you say its likely due to over inflation? I had a set of these and they just didn't last very long. I need some new shoes on my 2500 and was going to give the RT's a go. I drive about 4500 miles a month. 20% off road. Mud is my problem.
From what I understand it depends on the load rating of the tire. If you use a C load it will wear faster. I have F load and after 26k miles look nearly new
I have the ridge grapplers on my 18 gmc 1500 and so far they are great on and off pavement mainly beach driving . I have the 305 50 r20 because I was not ready for a lift on this truck and these don’t rub at full turn at stock ride height.
I have to disagree with your assessment. I have run Nitto Dura Grapplers, Nitto Terra Grapplers, Nitto Ridge Grapplers, Toyo Open Country AT, AT2 and RT. Every set of Nittos except the first set of Terras were a problem to balance and had out of round issues. The Dura's were replaced after 5 miles. I just tried Ridge Grapplers on my 2020 Power Wagon and I had one replaced immediately because it couldn't be balanced. After my first trip out of state, I had the Ridge Grapplers replaced due to vibration problems with Toyo AT2 which are smooth and run true. Every time I've had Nittos, I've had balance and vibration issues. All sets were replaced with Toyos and I've never had an issue. The Toyos have always balanced well, were smooth on the road and did well off the road. The Toyo R/T is my favorite by far and did very well in Michigan snow in 2018 and on the beaches of North Carolina's OBX (but I couldn't get the R/T this time as the closest set was 3000 miles away). All tires have been on my 2016 Cummins, 2018 Cummins and now my 2020 Power Wagon. I know it doesn't make any sense since both tires are sister company products, but the only thing I can think of is they use different carcasses. In fact, my dealer is now deleting the Ridge Grappler from his line up due to multiple issues and replacements. And yes, I've tried different pressures, but that can't overcome tire defects.
Looks like you cursed my tires too haha! Filmed this and then a week later developed a vibration from one of the tires. I've balanced them 3 times now and can't get it to drive smooth.
@@JustDiesels Sorry about that. I wanted the R/T since that's what I had on my 2018 Cummins and they were awesome, but the dealer couldn't get a set. I accepted the Ridge Grappler and drove 1600 miles and was pissed the whole time (and that was after they already replaced one after 100 miles). When I got home, I called the dealer and had them replaced with the only Toyo they could find which was an AT2. The following day I drove 800 miles and they were smooth and a pleasure to ride on. When these are worn, I'll order the R/T once again.
Motor_head18 talked about the vibration on his instagram page. Something to do about bronze rings being on the rotor/lug studs that shouldn’t be there on after market wheels. Not sure if that’s the same issue you guys are talking about but someone commented on his RUclips video about the issue and he posted the pic on his Instagram.
Yeah I didn’t like Ridge Graps at all in wet, mud, snow and ice. They were quiet and good on dirt rock and gravel. Falken AT3W are miles better all around especially in wet and snow, they just don’t have that nice squared off look.
The R/T held up A LOT better for me in rockier, desert terrain. They aren’t snow rated, but mine did fine in snow. They also have a mud terrain carcass. The Ridge Grappler has an all-terrain carcass. The softer compound doesn’t hold up as well with big, sharp rocks. That’s my experience with both.
Raymond, how do you like the Innov8 wheels? I can't decide between the G500 simulated beadlocks or smooth lip. I'm also struggling if I should get Raw or polished finish. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thx
A tire that addresses all the shortfalls of the ridge Grappler and yet no one seems to ever talk about is the EXO Grapplers. It's designed for HD trucks and has mountain/snowflake winter rating. I live in bc with lots of rain and some snow and every one I ask with ridge graps says they are sketchy in the wet. For this reason I bought the EXO Grapplers for my 2018 F350 6.7 to retain the aggressive looks of both the Toyo RT and ridge Grapplers but also that piece of Mind knowing they're going to perform well in the wet slushy conditions.
1/2 life on the NRG buddy parked his Dodge 1500 in the snow as we all kept going up the mnt. I will never get the NRG after seeing that. BFG K02 at 3/4 life on my F 150 had some slippage but kept going.
I've been doing my homework my current tire is the Toyo AT II Xtreme 35/12.5/20 on a gen 4 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins HD Turbo diesel 6.7. I admit was wanting a m/t at first but really needed a hybrid for this daily driver mostly highway miles, weekend hauler/off-road. So thanks for your video I feel like I've found the tire that best suits my needs the Nitto Ridge Grappler.
I find i run 50 psi front and 45 rear and i get a comfortable ride and tread pattern wear i find quite desirable. I run the Toyo ct on my truck and it is a 35/12.5r17 size for me
I have witnessed the same thing first hand. I have 33" Wildpeaks and have been wanting to go with Ridgegrappler's since they look badass. However, two buddies with 37" grappler's couldn't hang with my small 33" wildpeaks in the snow. We were all aired down around 10-15 PSI. At first I thought it was a driver issue but both trucks with grappler's kept getting stuck so I figure it was a tire issue.
Why does everybody like these Nittos? I currently have these on my 2017 Cummins. I only have 13000 miles on them and they are more than half wore out. I would never buy these tires again.
I’m at 20k miles and they aren’t even half worn out yet on my duramax. This is my second rig with these tires they’re premium tires. Sorry you had a bad experience. Probably something to do with your truck wearing em out lol
I'm loving the at3 as well. Has impressed me but worried about treadlife from my previous at2 tires I was disappointed in. Never had a set a nitto ridge grapplers so I'm wondering how they compare with treadlife and dry, wet, and snow performance
@Dezert Dezignz I stand corrected. I just called my guy and he said the Toyo ATlll are on back order every where. I'm also looking for the same tires when my truck gets delivered next week. I think I'm going to wait for them. Sorry My bad!
@@tundraspecialops the problem with a lot of people is they think they know a whole lot sometimes. The ridge grappler is classified as an A/T aswell, imbecile.
@@diegoroblez2328 Call people names; that’ll improve your credibility. Neither one of these tires is an all terrain. I’m telling you that you’re incorrect. What are you going to call me?
I don't see why you would add your opinion on something without having proof or something to back it up. If you google this tire it it considered an A/T, its in the tires description. So for another guy to tell me the same thing again, with no proof. Yea ill call you the same buddy. im not closed minded at all, but if intrude in someone else's comment ill make damn sure its facts what I type. Imbecile
Had nitto ridge grapplers on my avalanche black diamond, was not fully impressed with performance, doesn’t grab well on sand, and slippery on wet roads. Appearance is top notch though. With that said, I just ordered Toyo RTs for my Escalade to be put on tomorrow 🙂
Perfect timing. My Ridge Grapplers are on their way to my preferred local tire shop. I've always wondered which pressure to follow also, thanks for the tip.
I have had a problem with both the Teragrappler and the Ridgegrappler "chunking" when they get older. I primarily offroad on granite and other high traction surfaces. I wonder if you have seen this on your Nittos and if the Toyos do that. The rubber seems to get really hard with age.
Hey Andrew, I currently have the Ridge Grapplers on my 2011 LML . 285/70/18 . I need to replace now as one seperated on me which made me start looking at other brands, which i have narrowed it down to Nitto Or The Toyo A/T III. Which would you go with? I really do not drive the truck much and when we do its for long trips, we used to have a 5th wheel , which im sure we will get again in the future . Really no off road besides regular camp sites etc. I would like to move up a size like 295/70/18 would that work with either tire brand? Torsion bars raised 2". Thanks for your opinion. Heber
My 33x12.5 RGs HUMMMM like a MFer and cannot, after 3 road force balances, cannot get rid of the vibration. Only 2500 miles on them. Not impressed. Have a case open with Nitto. Hopefully I just got a bad set
Just a note... I have 6 month old Toyo's on the rear duals of my 40' RV. Toyo's stink!! I mean they SMELL like COW SHIT, I kid you not. It's been 6 months and if you walk by the tires you can really smell them. Just passing this info on. I would never buy Toyo's again and may in fact take them off and replace them with the Michelin's. I have Michelin's on the front and no smell whats so ever.
I have a 05 ram 2500. I live in Oregon and work out of West Texas oilfields. I run a toyo open country a/t. They are 35/12.50/17 on a 3 inch lift/level. I’ve ran them in snow ice mud and sand . And if you have never experienced oilfield mud or wet “ caliche” worst mud I’ve ever been in!!! And I swear buy these. They work great in all above. They have good siping so in wet and icy conditions there great. The main reason why the 2 in this video lack in the wet / icy conditions is there is vary little siping so it’s like running a slick. So my advice is take it to a tire shop and ask about having more siping added or buy the open country a/t .. also I use my truck to pull a 10,000 pound travel trailer from job site to job site.
For tire reviews, reviewers need to provide tread depth, and load rating. When people complain about poor traction in deep fresh snow (12 inches) or blowing a load C rated tires while pulling a trailer loaded with a SkidSteer at 70 mph on I-70 through the Rocky Mtns in January, we the readers need to know if the reviewer purchased the correct tire for their task. For my empty 6000 lb 4WD SUV I prefer quiet(NOT, I didn't rotate) Duratracs with low weight 45-50lbs (easy-on-suspension), 16 to 18/ 32nds tread depth for any kind of deep snow or slush. The new Destination XTs and Grabber XTs (terrible name) look good (quiet, great tread depth 16/32nds and snow traction, light weight for load rating).
Anyone know how the ridge grappler performs in the sand? Looking to get a set of them and will mainly be doing beach driving when i go off road. Also great video mate, liked and subbed! Cheers
TRXUS - STS for me, American made in Louisiana, quiet on the highway and EXCELLENT in the sand.... I drive 30% off road, so maybe there better on the freeway, but sand here in the Hugh desert is more important than anything else..
Just put ridge grapplers on my 2020 ram laramie 1500. They are 33's for now till I do a lift kit. They are very quiet compared to my 04 ram with cooper stt pro 35's. Changing lanes on the highway it feels like the sidewalls sway on the nittos. Any one else feel the same as the m/t 's on my other truck I don't feel that at all
At 20k miles on my Nitto RG’s on a Cummins 2500 they are pretty worn, not sure they will make it to 30k which is disappointing. Love them for towing and off-road, and you are 100% correct they aren’t that great in wet and ice/slush winter driving. If these won’t last 30k miles I won’t buy them again.
I was always told when putting that pressure into your tire whenever I max PSI is always run 5 lb under so the max is 40 I run 35 to 37 lb and also keep looking at my tires to see how the tread is wearing if it's wearing more in the middle or or the edges are getting worn down then I will adjust the air pressure so the tire is not copying or crowning when you're running on the highway that's also a good way to tell if they're running the correct air pressure
What about the toyo at3 vs the nitto ridge grappler? I've never had a set of ridge grapplers but so far I'm absolute love the new toyo at3. Mostly driving on highway and snow. 04 yukon Denali with always a good amount of weight in the back and I tow with it as well. Want the most longevity, best snow traction, and best stability and handling. The at2 I highly disappointed in with performance and treadlife. I've heard a lot greatness on both the ridge grapplers and at3.
I love my grapps....hit all the trails at badlands indiana rock quarry, sand, mudd, dirt everything in my 4runner....didnt even air down still 40lbs 🤣 no issue
Just Diesels if I gotta air down to ride on snow im thinking it’s not the ideal tire to have. I’ve switched to the toyo at3s much better suited overall
@@Thatguy8134 I love my truck. I went from an 03 5.9 Cummins to this. It literally feels like the same truck, only it rides a little better and the transmission shifts pretty hard. This truck tows better too. Only thing the truck needs now is a 5in straight pipe, then I’ll be 100% happy.
Had same dmax for 7 years. Started with bfgs then went to nitto mud grapplers, but being in north the mud grapplers sucked, ice: make sure your seatbelt was on lol, squishy sidewall when towing, didn’t perform well in snow unless I was in deep snow, then they really shined. Only ran them for 15k when I switched to ridge grapplers and had them for 30k ish now. Very happy with ridge grapplers. Quiet on Highway, good In snow, not quite the performance in snow like a duratrac, but they’re way quieter and don’t wear out as fast. I’d recommend ridge graps, they are very comfty towing and in ice/snow. Truck doesn’t see much mud so can’t give reviews on that.
Good info! You covered all the key points. Ran the Toyo MT 33x12.5x20 on a tundra got 70k miles towing a travel trailer and light off road. I ran the RT's. Both were excellent. Once they wear - you will lose traction so take it easy on starts if in inclement weather. Now I have an F250 and have worn out the Michelin AT's2 and looking for a replacement. Thanks for the info this helps me make a decision.
I'll take the rt they last longer than ridge grappler also I live up north and have had both but the rts are better in ice and snow the rts are going to be a little more hard so it will take more abuse than the soft nitos but if you live in cal. And go to mall a lot go with his decision but if you use them and live in cold extreme areas well go with the rts .
On my second set of 37" NRG's Amazing tires on my Dirtymax. Looking to drop to 35's for many reasons. These things wear really well. I appreciate your review!
On ur third gen are u running on a bead lock or a street lock where it’s inside but looks like a bead lock. If it’s bead locked how well do they balance out
I have a Jeep gladiator with 37s Nitto trail grapplers and they don’t even seem loud. I feel like on a diesel truck you would hear anything from the tires. I guess maybe the wind noise in a Jeep drowns it iut
I’m running the 37x12.5.18 ridge grapplers with methods also on my 20 Silverado 2500 with the FabTech 6in lift. I’m also very happy. Just been playing around with the psi to find the sweet spots for front and back.
I’m glad I saw this video! You always have great points and explanation of what your doing and because of that I just ordered me a set of the ridge grapplers-37/11.50R20 for my 2012 2500 Cummins thanks again for video
I ordered the Nitto Ridge Grapplers 7 months ago & am still waiting for delivery in Australia. I know it’s tough times, but there’s no point in marketing great tyres if you can’t supply them to willing buyers. 🙃
I’m about to have a set of 35x12.5 Grapplers mounted on my 19’ Tundra.. I’m really looking forward to experiencing all this tire has to offer both on & off-road. Thanks for the informative vid 🙏🏽☺️
Very helpful video...I have 35" Toyo R/Ts on my lifted Jeep wrangler, but my tires are due for replacement soon, and currently shopping around, and leaning toward Nitto's or even Yokohamas.
Hello Carli Susp. Recomends more Toyo tires than other brand to avoid death wooble. what do you think because I Will want to get Nitto Ridge Grappler Stock Number: 217530 35x12.5R17 Load E for a 2008 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.7 V8
Have to agree with you i have the new toyo r/t on my f150 4x4 and they dont have the same a/t feel everywhere as my 38 13.50 ridge grapplers do that i run on my 2nd gen all in all there both in my opinion top performers!
I live where there is real winter driving. RTs are some of the worst snow ice tires I have ever used. Switched to the exo grappler for ice. That does great. 2018 f350 diesel
I haven't had positive experiences with those tires on these heavier trucks. Love them on Tacomas or even F-150s, but on stuff over 7,500 pounds the Toyo and Nitto offerings seem to wear much better.
I have the nitto ridge grappler and they have been great. I tow a 32 ft travel trailer and at Max pressure they are very good. I run them at 45lbs when not towing and am happy with the ride and noise. Have about 20,000 miles on them and wear like iron. I will definitely buy these again and highly recommend them.
@@albertcooper7445 I have a 13 F-150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost. I lost about a mile-and-a-half per gallon with them but I pull a pretty heavy camper so I went to the 10-ply.. I will definitely buy them again though.
@@brettcarlow5779 pretty good, if you have a 10 ply tire just air them down. I would say the handling with them in snow with powder on the ice is much better than just a sheet of ice, but I noticed that with all tires. But honestly, these are my favorite tire for both on and off road so far. I am very happy with them.
In heavy gulf coast rains RTs grip well. I've tried to hydroplane them during downpours and pooled water unsuccessfully. I do however like the slightly more squared look of RGs. But I can't tolerate another tire that gets squirrelly in the rain. So it was RTs or Wildpeaks for me.
Just Diesels *fist pumping out of control! If you are ever in SLC Utah, dm me. You should come check out my little collection. No trucks but maybe soon :) insta is mike_dank
I definitely prefer the Nitto over the Toyo in The hybrid, but I prefer the Toyo M/T over the Trail Grapper.
Thanks for the air pressure recommendation. That’s a big cause of traction and wear complaints
After multiple solid reviews I just ordered the Nittos in 33 x 18 for my Silverado 2wd 1500. Note that both these tires feature different sidewalk tread patterns on both sides to choose from. Good review
Haha I keep finding you in all these videos for customizing my truck haha seems like we got the same taste haha love your truck! I checked it out
Please do a video covering Nitto Ridge Grapplers vs Toyo Open Country ATIII’s! That’s what I’m stuck between, great video!
Sadly nobody can get their hands on the AT3s yet! There’s a huge national shortage of tires at the moment!
Just Diesels oh man I had no idea!
Nitro Ridge Grappler is my favorite tire at the moment. Works great in all weather, and with aggressive look without the loudness on the road. I like how soft they feel as well.
Theyre not good off road tho
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I have had two sets of 35 inch nitto ridge grapplers. I average about 70,000 miles per set. Very quite and nice ridding. It tows very well also. Both sets, the rear tires felt loose for first 2000 miles until they break in. I contacted nitto on recommended tire pressure for 2011 Duramax hd2500 and they recommended I run 57 psi in front and 67 psi in rear on my Duramax. I love these tires
I ran the Nitto Trail Grapplers 35x12.5 R20s for over a year and absolutly britalized them on all kinds of terrain and especially rock crawliing and mud and I loved them, but they were sketchy AF on icy or wet roads and were relatively loud. I was going to switch to Hankook dynapro mt2's but the tire sales person made me an insane deal on five Nitto Ridge Grapplers and I couldn't say,"No".
I have been very happy with them. First thing I did is take them rock crawling in teh rainy season so ther was also PLENTY of mud and they perfromed VERY well. The noise was vastly less than my Old MTs and the road performance was also MUCH better. I do think that the MT's had slightly better grip in mud and steep rock inclines, but these got me over all the obsdtacles I went over and I had no issues. I will stick with them and see how they wear which seemed a bit of an issue with the MT's. The Nitto trail garpplers still had PLENTY of tread and worked great, but the base of the rubber (empty areas between lugs) did develop some weird "dry rot" veining and cracks which was a little disconcerting. Those lasted me about 46k-50k miles before swapping them out, but they couldv'e easly gone another 20k. We'll see how these Ridge grapplers work out.
How were the ridge grapplers on icy or wet roads?
I have ran both on my 07 2500 duramax.
Toyos we’re good tires, lasted about 15k miles less than the Nittos.
Nittos were better on the icy roads in north east Oregon.
RTs were quieter.
Nittos were cheaper.
After I made the switch to nitro ridge grapplers I haven’t looked back. On my 4th set and I love them.
They could both be better in the ice and slush. They both will get pulled around badly in slush.
Ride Grappler 33/12 20/10 on my 2017 Tundra 4 1/2 BDS ,Fox Coiled Over. 3 trips New Jersey to Ottawa Canada “ Sweat “ . Love. You can’t wrong.
I've got 70,400 miles on my 33x12.50r20 ridge grapplers rotated every 5k and they are still in great shape. 2019 f150 I live on 2 miles of Oklahoma dirt roads and commute 40 miles one way to work. Tow a 6k pound boat every weekend during the summer these tires are great.
Agree, BDS coilover 6” lift on my 2021 GMC duramax, NITTO Ridge Grapplers got the nod.. 12.5x35x18 with Method matte black rims. Very happy
I’m running the 37x12.5.18 ridge grapplers with methods also on my 20 Silverado 2500 with the FabTech 6in lift. I’m also very happy. Just been playing around with the psi to find the sweet spots for front and back.
After two sets of the Toyo RT I went to the AT3 an am very impressed. I considered the Nitto Ridge Grappler, but heard too many complaints about wear.
Just put the Grapps on my Rebel. Love the look, love the drive and couldn't be happier with them.
I’ve got the toyos on my Ford truck and nitto on the dodge truck. Been happy with both. Had the toyos the longest, so we’ll see how nitto does in the long run
I like the Ridge Grapplers, but had to ensure they stayed at 65 PSI on the fronts for my Dodge 2500. Any lower pressure and they would wear funny on each tread shoulder block. The alignment was spot on.
I’m currently running Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs and prefer them over the Ridge Grapplers.
Nitto Exo Grappler AWT work amazing on my Ram 2500 MegaCab. Work great off road and have had a long tread life already.. about half tread at 35k miles. Also pretty quiet on the highway. They also retain towing abilities being an E rated tire.
I have the Ridge Grapplers on my 3rd gen and they are worth every penny so far. They are only slightly louder than the terra grappler g2s I had previously.I still need to test them in sand and snow
They have a much stouter carcass than the G2's also.
'21 I just bought the Nitto Ridge Grapplers because i had limited tires i could get 265/70/18. And they only cost $ 300 each. I did want the Trail Grapplers but i couldn't get any. Sold out everywhere. But for my first drive home i barely even heard any tire noise. But ill have to see if they're going to be enough for hunting season ? Snow,mud. We'll see.
I love your videos man!!! I have a 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 with 227k needs new tires just about now😅 this video surely helped 👍🏼👍🏼
Looks like the public has made the decision to choose the Nitto Ridge Grappler, as I am the proud purchaser of the LAST 4 of those tires available in the United States (as of April 2021). I had Nitto Terra Grappler G2s on my truck, which I just replaced with the Ridges. I have noticed NO loud noise on the road and the griping on paved turns is phenomenal. I bought the 315/70r17 size tires on custom rims with a 6" negative aspect. My ATs lasted me for over 50,000 miles and 5 years of freeway, dirt, and regular street driving, and I expect at least that from the Ridge Grapplers.
The last 4? Lol did your mom tell you that?
Good info as always, thank you.
I went with the Toyo R/T on my 4th gen Ram and loved them. Nitto's seem to wear faster and cup more.
thanks i agree!! toyo is better anyways...
How do they handle in the snow and rain? I’m looking to make decision soon and the Toyo has that beautiful 45000 warranty, but I live in Utah and am in snow all the time.
I have on my 2008 Dodge ram 2500 mega cab I put 34 1/2 x 12“ Nitto ridge grappler‘s I feel like they’re probably my favorite tire ever like ever some thing about those side lugs just puts me in a good mood
Yes please...video on tire pressures....
What's really funny about this comparison is Toyo owns Nitto and uses Nitto as a test bead for rubber compounds .
What’s actually really funny is he acknowledged that in the video
Nitto are trash in the performance department. They only sell well because of there appeal
@ricky2shoez215 maybe it's not the tire it's the guy behind the keyboard who has no idea of what this tire can actually do an it's place in the world. The 888 is a great tire on the street and good tire on the track I would argue the ra1 was a better track tire then the 888r but it was not a street tire. Then again a 60 rating vers 100 is all you should know. And to say the 888r is garbage shows you have no idea what your talking about.
@@fc3sboy1 I didn't mean to offend you dude. It was just my own opinion that doesn't even really matter. Although you took it as a statement apparently I have had terra grappler trail grapplers and most recent ridge grapplers so yes I will say they suck. I don't doubt you at all with there street/track tires but he's mentioning off-road tires bro lol your kinda eating your own words unless you have had there off-road tires.
If you're not getting the mileage out of the Grapplers would you say its likely due to over inflation? I had a set of these and they just didn't last very long. I need some new shoes on my 2500 and was going to give the RT's a go. I drive about 4500 miles a month. 20% off road. Mud is my problem.
From what I understand it depends on the load rating of the tire. If you use a C load it will wear faster. I have F load and after 26k miles look nearly new
I put Toyo MTs on my Ram. Love them. Don’t mind the noise.
I literally just pulled the trigger on some Toyo Open Country ATIII's 35X12.5 for my Xterra. I hope they treat me right!
I have the ridge grapplers on my 18 gmc 1500 and so far they are great on and off pavement mainly beach driving
. I have the 305 50 r20 because I was not ready for a lift on this truck and these don’t rub at full turn at stock ride height.
I have to disagree with your assessment. I have run Nitto Dura Grapplers, Nitto Terra Grapplers, Nitto Ridge Grapplers, Toyo Open Country AT, AT2 and RT. Every set of Nittos except the first set of Terras were a problem to balance and had out of round issues. The Dura's were replaced after 5 miles. I just tried Ridge Grapplers on my 2020 Power Wagon and I had one replaced immediately because it couldn't be balanced. After my first trip out of state, I had the Ridge Grapplers replaced due to vibration problems with Toyo AT2 which are smooth and run true. Every time I've had Nittos, I've had balance and vibration issues. All sets were replaced with Toyos and I've never had an issue. The Toyos have always balanced well, were smooth on the road and did well off the road. The Toyo R/T is my favorite by far and did very well in Michigan snow in 2018 and on the beaches of North Carolina's OBX (but I couldn't get the R/T this time as the closest set was 3000 miles away). All tires have been on my 2016 Cummins, 2018 Cummins and now my 2020 Power Wagon. I know it doesn't make any sense since both tires are sister company products, but the only thing I can think of is they use different carcasses. In fact, my dealer is now deleting the Ridge Grappler from his line up due to multiple issues and replacements. And yes, I've tried different pressures, but that can't overcome tire defects.
Looks like you cursed my tires too haha! Filmed this and then a week later developed a vibration from one of the tires. I've balanced them 3 times now and can't get it to drive smooth.
@@JustDiesels Sorry about that. I wanted the R/T since that's what I had on my 2018 Cummins and they were awesome, but the dealer couldn't get a set. I accepted the Ridge Grappler and drove 1600 miles and was pissed the whole time (and that was after they already replaced one after 100 miles). When I got home, I called the dealer and had them replaced with the only Toyo they could find which was an AT2. The following day I drove 800 miles and they were smooth and a pleasure to ride on. When these are worn, I'll order the R/T once again.
Motor_head18 talked about the vibration on his instagram page. Something to do about bronze rings being on the rotor/lug studs that shouldn’t be there on after market wheels. Not sure if that’s the same issue you guys are talking about but someone commented on his RUclips video about the issue and he posted the pic on his Instagram.
Yeah I didn’t like Ridge Graps at all in wet, mud, snow and ice. They were quiet and good on dirt rock and gravel. Falken AT3W are miles better all around especially in wet and snow, they just don’t have that nice squared off look.
That’s what throws me off as well; I know it’s just an appearance thing and the AT3W’s get great reviews, but I prefer the squared look.
Thank you I had ridge and toyo rt both bad in rain and snow.
The R/T held up A LOT better for me in rockier, desert terrain. They aren’t snow rated, but mine did fine in snow. They also have a mud terrain carcass. The Ridge Grappler has an all-terrain carcass. The softer compound doesn’t hold up as well with big, sharp rocks. That’s my experience with both.
I agree I had the duratrac I switched to the ridge grapplers and my next go around will be back to the duratrac they were a better Tire
Helped me make up my mind. I’ve been going back and forth between the two. Innov8 & Nitto for me.
Going with the good stuff! 🙌
Raymond, how do you like the Innov8 wheels?
I can't decide between the G500 simulated beadlocks or smooth lip. I'm also struggling if I should get Raw or polished finish. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thx
Nitto's
A tire that addresses all the shortfalls of the ridge Grappler and yet no one seems to ever talk about is the EXO Grapplers. It's designed for HD trucks and has mountain/snowflake winter rating. I live in bc with lots of rain and some snow and every one I ask with ridge graps says they are sketchy in the wet. For this reason I bought the EXO Grapplers for my 2018 F350 6.7 to retain the aggressive looks of both the Toyo RT and ridge Grapplers but also that piece of Mind knowing they're going to perform well in the wet slushy conditions.
1/2 life on the NRG buddy parked his Dodge 1500 in the snow as we all kept going up the mnt. I will never get the NRG after seeing that. BFG K02 at 3/4 life on my F 150 had some slippage but kept going.
I've been doing my homework my current tire is the Toyo AT II Xtreme 35/12.5/20 on a gen 4 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins HD Turbo diesel 6.7. I admit was wanting a m/t at first but really needed a hybrid for this daily driver mostly highway miles, weekend hauler/off-road. So thanks for your video I feel like I've found the tire that best suits my needs the Nitto Ridge Grappler.
I think those tires are complete junk. They always break loose and spin with the slightest moisture
Toyo is better than the nitto. Mileage warranty and better traction on my F250. I am talking AT3 vs Ridgegrappler. Just buying a new set of TOYO RT
I find i run 50 psi front and 45 rear and i get a comfortable ride and tread pattern wear i find quite desirable. I run the Toyo ct on my truck and it is a 35/12.5r17 size for me
I love the ridge grapplers exempt in the winter they aren't the best in snow
I have witnessed the same thing first hand. I have 33" Wildpeaks and have been wanting to go with Ridgegrappler's since they look badass. However, two buddies with 37" grappler's couldn't hang with my small 33" wildpeaks in the snow. We were all aired down around 10-15 PSI. At first I thought it was a driver issue but both trucks with grappler's kept getting stuck so I figure it was a tire issue.
The RT is just a better looking tire to me
Why does everybody like these Nittos? I currently have these on my 2017 Cummins. I only have 13000 miles on them and they are more than half wore out. I would never buy these tires again.
I’m at 20k miles and they aren’t even half worn out yet on my duramax. This is my second rig with these tires they’re premium tires. Sorry you had a bad experience. Probably something to do with your truck wearing em out lol
I love the new Toyo AT3 best tires I've ran so far.
Yeah I love the toyo at3 tires. I had a set of 33s put on my truck a month ago and I dont have any complaints. Definitely a great tire for the money
I run 35" Toyo AT3's on 17's. Love EM!
I'm loving the at3 as well. Has impressed me but worried about treadlife from my previous at2 tires I was disappointed in. Never had a set a nitto ridge grapplers so I'm wondering how they compare with treadlife and dry, wet, and snow performance
@Dezert Dezignz FYI - Toyo does make the ATIII in a 37" My neighbor has them on his Super duty
@Dezert Dezignz I stand corrected. I just called my guy and he said the Toyo ATlll are on back order every where. I'm also looking for the same tires when my truck gets delivered next week. I think I'm going to wait for them. Sorry My bad!
I have Trail Grapplers, love them. If I went A/T... Ridge Grappler all the way 👍
Ridge Grapplers aren't A/T, that's the Terra Grappler
@@tundraspecialops the problem with a lot of people is they think they know a whole lot sometimes. The ridge grappler is classified as an A/T aswell, imbecile.
@@diegoroblez2328 whoa, settle down dude
@@diegoroblez2328 Call people names; that’ll improve your credibility. Neither one of these tires is an all terrain. I’m telling you that you’re incorrect. What are you going to call me?
I don't see why you would add your opinion on something without having proof or something to back it up. If you google this tire it it considered an A/T, its in the tires description. So for another guy to tell me the same thing again, with no proof. Yea ill call you the same buddy. im not closed minded at all, but if intrude in someone else's comment ill make damn sure its facts what I type. Imbecile
Had nitto ridge grapplers on my avalanche black diamond, was not fully impressed with performance, doesn’t grab well on sand, and slippery on wet roads. Appearance is top notch though. With that said, I just ordered Toyo RTs for my Escalade to be put on tomorrow 🙂
I'm on the fence of the ridge grapplers and the cooper st maxx
The one thing I didn't hear you touch on was longevity. That would be the deciding factor for me. BTW, these will be going on my 98 Ram 12V.
In my experience the Toyo RT might last a hair longer, but they’re pretty comparable.
I have a ‘97 OBS 7.3 4x4 man trans XLT white just like that in the garage! 126k on mine
I run Mud Grapplers on my OBS. It has OX LOCKERS front and back for deep snow days.
Perfect timing. My Ridge Grapplers are on their way to my preferred local tire shop. I've always wondered which pressure to follow also, thanks for the tip.
I have had a problem with both the Teragrappler and the Ridgegrappler "chunking" when they get older. I primarily offroad on granite and other high traction surfaces. I wonder if you have seen this on your Nittos and if the Toyos do that. The rubber seems to get really hard with age.
Hey Andrew,
I currently have the Ridge Grapplers on my 2011 LML . 285/70/18 . I need to replace now as one seperated on me which made me start looking at other brands, which i have narrowed it down to Nitto Or The Toyo A/T III. Which would you go with? I really do not drive the truck much and when we do its for long trips, we used to have a 5th wheel , which im sure we will get again in the future . Really no off road besides regular camp sites etc. I would like to move up a size like 295/70/18 would that work with either tire brand? Torsion bars raised 2". Thanks for your opinion.
Heber
My 33x12.5 RGs HUMMMM like a MFer and cannot, after 3 road force balances, cannot get rid of the vibration. Only 2500 miles on them. Not impressed. Have a case open with Nitto. Hopefully I just got a bad set
Just a note... I have 6 month old Toyo's on the rear duals of my 40' RV. Toyo's stink!! I mean they SMELL like COW SHIT, I kid you not. It's been 6 months and if you walk by the tires you can really smell them. Just passing this info on. I would never buy Toyo's again and may in fact take them off and replace them with the Michelin's. I have Michelin's on the front and no smell whats so ever.
Why does everyone sleep on the Exo Grapplers? They are the best all around tire that Nitto offers hands down.
I have a 05 ram 2500. I live in Oregon and work out of West Texas oilfields. I run a toyo open country a/t. They are 35/12.50/17 on a 3 inch lift/level. I’ve ran them in snow ice mud and sand . And if you have never experienced oilfield mud or wet “ caliche” worst mud I’ve ever been in!!! And I swear buy these. They work great in all above. They have good siping so in wet and icy conditions there great. The main reason why the 2 in this video lack in the wet / icy conditions is there is vary little siping so it’s like running a slick.
So my advice is take it to a tire shop and ask about having more siping added or buy the open country a/t .. also I use my truck to pull a 10,000 pound travel trailer from job site to job site.
For tire reviews, reviewers need to provide tread depth, and load rating. When people complain about poor traction in deep fresh snow (12 inches) or blowing a load C rated tires while pulling a trailer loaded with a SkidSteer at 70 mph on I-70 through the Rocky Mtns in January, we the readers need to know if the reviewer purchased the correct tire for their task. For my empty 6000 lb 4WD SUV I prefer quiet(NOT, I didn't rotate) Duratracs with low weight 45-50lbs (easy-on-suspension), 16 to 18/ 32nds tread depth for any kind of deep snow or slush. The new Destination XTs and Grabber XTs (terrible name) look good (quiet, great tread depth 16/32nds and snow traction, light weight for load rating).
I personally love the look of toyo at3 extremes look aggressive & are quite and last forever!
ATIII Xtreme?
Joe Jamtgaard yes correct I have them on my f150
I haven't seen ATIII Xtreme only ATII Xtreme
Joe Jamtgaard well I have them on my truck
You don’t have AT3 Extremes on your truck; they don’t exist.
Which is better for gas mileage?
Which is better on snow and ice covered roads?
Anyone know how the ridge grappler performs in the sand? Looking to get a set of them and will mainly be doing beach driving when i go off road. Also great video mate, liked and subbed! Cheers
What is the wheel on your nittos??
TRXUS - STS for me, American made in Louisiana, quiet on the highway and EXCELLENT in the sand.... I drive 30% off road, so maybe there better on the freeway, but sand here in the Hugh desert is more important than anything else..
what wheels are you running on both those trucks?
Just put ridge grapplers on my 2020 ram laramie 1500. They are 33's for now till I do a lift kit. They are very quiet compared to my 04 ram with cooper stt pro 35's. Changing lanes on the highway it feels like the sidewalls sway on the nittos. Any one else feel the same as the m/t 's on my other truck I don't feel that at all
At 20k miles on my Nitto RG’s on a Cummins 2500 they are pretty worn, not sure they will make it to 30k which is disappointing. Love them for towing and off-road, and you are 100% correct they aren’t that great in wet and ice/slush winter driving. If these won’t last 30k miles I won’t buy them again.
I was always told when putting that pressure into your tire whenever I max PSI is always run 5 lb under so the max is 40 I run 35 to 37 lb and also keep looking at my tires to see how the tread is wearing if it's wearing more in the middle or or the edges are getting worn down then I will adjust the air pressure so the tire is not copying or crowning when you're running on the highway that's also a good way to tell if they're running the correct air pressure
I run my RGs at 32 cold. I tend to get better ride quality this way. 6inch lift 35x20s
What about the toyo at3 vs the nitto ridge grappler? I've never had a set of ridge grapplers but so far I'm absolute love the new toyo at3. Mostly driving on highway and snow. 04 yukon Denali with always a good amount of weight in the back and I tow with it as well. Want the most longevity, best snow traction, and best stability and handling. The at2 I highly disappointed in with performance and treadlife. I've heard a lot greatness on both the ridge grapplers and at3.
The Nitto side wall doesn’t look good that’s why I always passed on them.
I love my grapps....hit all the trails at badlands indiana rock quarry, sand, mudd, dirt everything in my 4runner....didnt even air down still 40lbs 🤣 no issue
Ridges all the way!
The ridge grapplers are terrible on ice and hard pack snow. Let’s be completely honest.
I’ve been pretty happy with them when running the right tire pressure.
Just Diesels if I gotta air down to ride on snow im thinking it’s not the ideal tire to have. I’ve switched to the toyo at3s much better suited overall
I’ve loved my ridge grapplers. I’m hoping to hit 50k miles. Just passed 35k and at 7/32s. Titan XD with a 5.0 Cummins
How do you like your truck? I’ve been looking at those trucks but don’t hear much about them
@@Thatguy8134 I love my truck. I went from an 03 5.9 Cummins to this. It literally feels like the same truck, only it rides a little better and the transmission shifts pretty hard. This truck tows better too. Only thing the truck needs now is a 5in straight pipe, then I’ll be 100% happy.
Had same dmax for 7 years. Started with bfgs then went to nitto mud grapplers, but being in north the mud grapplers sucked, ice: make sure your seatbelt was on lol, squishy sidewall when towing, didn’t perform well in snow unless I was in deep snow, then they really shined. Only ran them for 15k when I switched to ridge grapplers and had them for 30k ish now. Very happy with ridge grapplers. Quiet on Highway, good In snow, not quite the performance in snow like a duratrac, but they’re way quieter and don’t wear out as fast. I’d recommend ridge graps, they are very comfty towing and in ice/snow. Truck doesn’t see much mud so can’t give reviews on that.
Good info! You covered all the key points. Ran the Toyo MT 33x12.5x20 on a tundra got 70k miles towing a travel trailer and light off road. I ran the RT's. Both were excellent. Once they wear - you will lose traction so take it easy on starts if in inclement weather. Now I have an F250 and have worn out the Michelin AT's2 and looking for a replacement. Thanks for the info this helps me make a decision.
Yokohama X-AT
I'll take the rt they last longer than ridge grappler also I live up north and have had both but the rts are better in ice and snow the rts are going to be a little more hard so it will take more abuse than the soft nitos but if you live in cal. And go to mall a lot go with his decision but if you use them and live in cold extreme areas well go with the rts .
On my second set of 37" NRG's Amazing tires on my Dirtymax. Looking to drop to 35's for many reasons. These things wear really well. I appreciate your review!
On ur third gen are u running on a bead lock or a street lock where it’s inside but looks like a bead lock. If it’s bead locked how well do they balance out
AT3 vs NR grappler? Please
I have a Jeep gladiator with 37s Nitto trail grapplers and they don’t even seem loud. I feel like on a diesel truck you would hear anything from the tires. I guess maybe the wind noise in a Jeep drowns it iut
I’m running the 37x12.5.18 ridge grapplers with methods also on my 20 Silverado 2500 with the FabTech 6in lift. I’m also very happy. Just been playing around with the psi to find the sweet spots for front and back.
I’m glad I saw this video! You always have great points and explanation of what your doing and because of that I just ordered me a set of the ridge grapplers-37/11.50R20 for my 2012 2500 Cummins thanks again for video
this dude has like 6g's invested in tires alone!
@peter conway where are you buying 37/13.50/20 Ridge Grapplers for under $1000?
@peter conway that is what is on his truck, you also bought a lower teir tire.
@peter conway didn't say I was looking for them, I have 37/12.50/17 Ridge Grapplers on my truck and I am well aware what they cost, unlike you.
@peter conway yet here you are running off at the mouth about it anyways.
I don't think either one of these would perform as well as falcon at3ws. They do look better though.
Great Review!! Nitto all the way!!👍👍👍
I ordered the Nitto Ridge Grapplers 7 months ago & am still waiting for delivery in Australia. I know it’s tough times, but there’s no point in marketing great tyres if you can’t supply them to willing buyers. 🙃
I’m about to have a set of 35x12.5 Grapplers mounted on my 19’ Tundra.. I’m really looking forward to experiencing all this tire has to offer both on & off-road. Thanks for the informative vid 🙏🏽☺️
How are they doing? Thinking about getting some for mine. My biggest thing is tread life. How have they been holding up?
Dusty, I have a 2012 Tundra CrewMax. How much lift do you have to fit your 35’s? (I have a 3” Icon adjustable setup)
Toyo and nitto ARE THE SAME COMPANY 🤯
He said that is the beginning of the video
And?
Very helpful video...I have 35" Toyo R/Ts on my lifted Jeep wrangler, but my tires are due for replacement soon, and currently shopping around, and leaning toward Nitto's or even Yokohamas.
Hello Carli Susp. Recomends more Toyo tires than other brand to avoid death wooble. what do you think because I Will want to get Nitto Ridge Grappler Stock Number: 217530 35x12.5R17 Load E for a 2008 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.7 V8
Have to agree with you i have the new toyo r/t on my f150 4x4 and they dont have the same a/t feel everywhere as my 38 13.50 ridge grapplers do that i run on my 2nd gen all in all there both in my opinion top performers!
I live where there is real winter driving. RTs are some of the worst snow ice tires I have ever used.
Switched to the exo grappler for ice. That does great.
2018 f350 diesel
What about BFG? Dare I say the KO2 and AT are well renowned
I haven't had positive experiences with those tires on these heavier trucks. Love them on Tacomas or even F-150s, but on stuff over 7,500 pounds the Toyo and Nitto offerings seem to wear much better.
Now im wondering about the Nitto Recon Grappler vs Ridge Grappler...
Very detailed and solid review. Excellent video!
I have the nitto ridge grappler and they have been great. I tow a 32 ft travel trailer and at Max pressure they are very good. I run them at 45lbs when not towing and am happy with the ride and noise. Have about 20,000 miles on them and wear like iron. I will definitely buy these again and highly recommend them.
What type of rig do you have? How is the MPG with the RG?
@@albertcooper7445 I have a 13 F-150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost. I lost about a mile-and-a-half per gallon with them but I pull a pretty heavy camper so I went to the 10-ply.. I will definitely buy them again though.
Nice video again Andrew! Question-is the 2021 Ram HD getting a redo mirroring the 1500 cab wise? I’ve heard rumors that it was.
amazing video
Great tyre love the Ridge Grappler run 295x70x17 on my 200 series Cruiser in Australia
I like the Toyo open country R/T trail on my 3500 Chevrolet.
how have they treated you in the snow if you live up north? my first winter with them is here and after seeing a bunch of videos kinda nervous lol
@@brettcarlow5779 pretty good, if you have a 10 ply tire just air them down. I would say the handling with them in snow with powder on the ice is much better than just a sheet of ice, but I noticed that with all tires. But honestly, these are my favorite tire for both on and off road so far. I am very happy with them.
@@brettcarlow5779 if you have a 10 ply tire I would go with a 60 to 40 PSI if you are not towing.
In heavy gulf coast rains RTs grip well. I've tried to hydroplane them during downpours and pooled water unsuccessfully. I do however like the slightly more squared look of RGs. But I can't tolerate another tire that gets squirrelly in the rain. So it was RTs or Wildpeaks for me.
I didn’t know toyo and nitto were the same manufacturer. I like the AT3s was thinking of buying those
Did you take notice of the difference of fuel economy on these tires? Are they going to reduce your fuel economy over stock on the OBS?
Both are almost identical in terms of fuel economy. If there is a difference it’s too small to quantify!
@justdiesels would you please buy a pre 80's Power Wagon... I need to live vicariously through you...
Haha Next thing on my dream vehicle list is a Second Gen!
Just Diesels *fist pumping out of control! If you are ever in SLC Utah, dm me. You should come check out my little collection. No trucks but maybe soon :) insta is mike_dank