How To Return Your Sig Sauer P322 For Warranty Work!
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Your not the only one having to send a p322 back for the second time!
This was a interesting video and a very informative video. I do realize that this problem exists and this problem also happened to RUclipsr tools and Target. So I have been really watching the inside of my barrel of my sig Sauer p322 very close. I have fired a lot of dirty 22 ammo through mine including Remington Thunderbolts and I have probably fired around 1,000 rounds through my p322 and have not experienced any excessive leading in the barrel. So I feel very fortunate that I must have got a good barrel with mine.
So thankful for this video..I just purchased one of these..I will be testing mine soon..
G4, out of the box my P322 was a nightmare. About 40 light strikes misfires, about 10 failure to feed, and after about 100 rounds, the barrel was coated in lead and I was getting key holes thru my paper targets.
I spoke to a Sig rep, who emailed me an RMA to print out and send via FedEx. Before the email, I had to send him photos of the light strikes and the barrel. They had the gun for just one day. They sent us back with a new barrel and barrel spring. I took it back to the range and I had no problem at all. 120+ rounds of CCI mini mags. 0 misfires, 0 misfeeds, no leaded barrel. What a difference. The only thing I didn't do was wipe down the gun prior to use when I first got it. Could that have been the cause of was the barrel not to spec? Who knows.
Great video. It's very informative. Thank you so much!
I did find your channel thru tools I thought at first the guy was a little off but I definitely changed my opinion because he definitely knows what he is talking about. Didn’t realize he was the guy on ammo hunts every week
His reviews of ammo in JELLY Time are real good
Ill sub to your channel you seem on par with tools with knowledge
I am not a novice to guns at all but anyone saying they know everything are not good mechanics. I can always use others helpful info. Thx. Charlie D
Cool thanks for the informative video!
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Mine works amazing, and I am thankful. Have you gotten your 2nd one back now? Curious if it works great...
just subscribed brother !!!!
Maybe some barrels are a manufacturing lot error in the first lots of production but consider this also, 20 rounds mags can also cause more heat then most 22's that have half it's capacity like 10 and under before mag change, double the heat possibly, also a pencil thin barrel. so adding more heat, more burnt powder, wax from bullet coatings and a pencil thin barrel the chances are that every shot rapid fire is increasing the heat having 21 rounds to get it much hotter, I think the gun isn't for rapid fire or designed to handle rapid fire, I have this gun and no problems but have been shooting browning buckmak 22s since 1985, Buckmarks can rapid fire and stay cool some what but a pencil thin barrel on the Sig 322 and Taurus TX 22 you could get them to hot, I don't rapid fire my 22s but once in a while, constant rapid fire on any 22 pistol is hard on more then just the barrel, the firing pin cycling so fast you can get more light strikes, this is because the timing cycle can't keep up with the speed of your finger, the spring needs time to snap forward the firing pin, although rapid fire may be fun it's unnecessary because 22s have hardly any recoil, you do a mag dump in defense you will hit the target so no need to practice run and gun mag dumps, focus on good A zone hits like double taps or head shots. Another thing is the crown of barrel doesn't have a 11 degree crown but has been kept a straight crown for the suppressor adaptor, that's why you will notice a sharp crown with no angle, it's so that adaptor and suppressor don't have a angle gap when connecting it to barrel Wich would effect accuracy from bullets passing over gap. Heat will also give your mags issues doing rapid fire or guys tossing mags on the ground after reloads, you can still do your drill on sand and rocks but put something down like a used blanket or bed sheet. Heat, friction, carbon build up, lack of lube including feed ramp give 22s issues, you have more rounds you can fire then you 9 mm thus they get more dirty and need lube sooner and they need cool down time, 20 rounds rapid fire is more heat and friction meaning more problems, it's a fun plinker but needs to stay cool, lubed and cleaned even after a box of 100 CCI standard or mini mags
Mine started to constantly have feed problems and light striking after 700 rounds ,, sig reps told Mr dirty ammo ,, but my TX22 has non of the problems shoot both together same ammo
Just a brief look into these problems that people are having with the sig p322 leading problem has me wondering about the threaded portion of the barrel that accepts the suppressor adapter. It seems that the lead only sticks to this area of the barrel. It seems like maybe heat generated during rapid fire of the gun is a factor. This would explain why some people may not be experiencing this problem because they may not speed shoot. It would be interesting if sig could solve this problem with a non-threaded barrel. Would be a simple solution that would satisfy most of the users experiencing this problem.
Hope they get this straightened out.
I literally delivered the box containing a brand new p322 which is being held for me. Call it a benefit of the job. Now im wondering if i should purchase it now
Fedex will in fact attempt three times. Also treats go along way with your courier just saying
mine's brand new. New fired. I bought it two months ago and just haven't done anything with it till this weekend. The slide actually gets stuck and will not slide back into place. Still never fired. I'm happy I haven't loaded and test fired. Now I don't know if I just cut my losses. Its problematic without even been used.
This is a PITA for you to have to deal with. It seems that they may have a bad run of barrels. I have a P322 with a S/N in the 2000s and have put over 700 rds through mine without this problem. Over half of those have been the norma tac-22 as they are about the only I can get right now. The rest have been range ammo and I don't know what brand they sold me. I did check after watching your first video on this. The only leading I noticed was when I sent a magazine of the Punch through it. After that I ran the Norma again and the barrel was free and clear.
Good to know. I just bought one and don't have enough rounds through it to see a problem. Curious if there is a range of SN that are bad?
I hope you end up with a good barrel next time. I got mine back in June or July. I've fired more than 1000 rounds so far, nearly all suppressed. No evidence of lead fouling so far, bore is bright and shiny. I've had a handful of light strikes but nothing major. I've been using Federal Automatch bulk pack and haven't cleaned the pistol to speak of. The accuracy seems good and the pistol shoots to POA. I guess I can say I got a good one. I'm going to pick up a TX22 very soon for comparison's sake.
I like the tx22 better. I did just post another follow up video!
Did you ever get the p322 back with the second barrel? So #1 got a new barrel and you fired many rounds and no lead issue. #2 you were going to send back for a 3rd barrel to try. Did you get it back yet.
Bought one. Knew it would be a crap shoot as to whether or not i would get a good one.
Barrel leading was not the issue. The 50 light primer strikes in the first 400 rounds of shooting was. Got rid of it as soon as I could.
I got a ton of those!
Picked up a Walther P22Q to replace the P322. The Walther is an absolute machine. 500+ rounds through it already. Zero issues.
Was gonna say trade it for a Taurus TX22. Zero issues, fun to shoot and runs..
@@eduardomata6345 Check out our latest videos! We have a video on our new TX 22!!
In your experience, what has been the repair turnaround time at Sig for your P322? Thank you for this video!
Less than a week!
I was looking at this because of the ammo capacity and the threaded barrel plus optics ready. Making me consider a taurus and forgoing the optics ready and threaded barrel lol. But it seems to be a 50/50 if its good or not the more I research it which is sad.
Is the leading issue affected by using a supressor?
Wow, I had a p227 that was a problem child too. After two returns and it still not running well I traded it
I realized there was a problem my first time out with my 322. I shoot paper plates and this day in particular I had plastic paper plates so not paper plates but plastic plates. I was shooting at 7 yards just seven yards 21 ft and my group was all over that plate and they weren't bullet holes they were cuts in the paper or I mean plastic where the bullet had gone through apparently spinning or sideways in that short of distance. I've emailed sig twice and gotten the oh it's just dirty ammunition excuse... well I say b*******. I can't tell you how bad I wish there was a return policy on guns.
There is!! Fill out a warranty ticket on their website and they will get back with you!! Do it do it do it!! They need to be swamped with these barrel returns!! Ok, that’s enough explanation points lol. ,,,,,, !
Does it still work? Maybe its tuff and withstand being thrown.
This is sad and should never be an issue. Todays manufacturing should jave resolved this in QC. How sig allowed thess barrels to go to market is shameful . I was interested in this 22lr offering but there is now way i would give them my hard earned money . Period!
Agreed.
Thanks for the video, I had a problem on my p322 too, it should be spring broken and can not apart it, mail it back to Sig one week later called me and asked $160 to change the barrel, they said the ammo broke the barrel and not covered on lifetime warranty, I bought it from Bass Pro on July 16 and broken on Aug 20 just play 3 times around 800 rounds,last shot about 180 rounds using CCI Mini Mag . Right now I don't want to pay the $160 barrel fee and tell them send it back. Any ideas can help. Thank you. Samson
ammo broke the barrel? on a 22? that's ridiculous, ask sig for your money back
When's the follow up? It's been 5 months. What's the status?
I was thinking on getting a p322 but see they still have not fixed the leading issue
I think I know what is a problem. In my new p322 i found that not diameter of barrel is an issue, but feeding bullet to chamber. When a bullet i moved to chamber it is scratched by groove between chamber rim and feeding notch . Scratching bullet causes two things : leaves free amount of lead in entry to barrel that could be pushed further by second bullet . Scratched bullet in one side allow the gas to penetrate between the bullet and barrel , causing lead heating and melting. It is quite simple to check - load bullet to chamber and remove it. When there are scratches then is the case. In my Ruger SR22 there is now one scratch - it has no notch . I do a simple handwork with file - I've saw a little bit more entry to chamber - now bullets are not scratched .
Plausible explanation! The gun still isn’t worth a dime if it won’t shoot properly.
@@g4outdoors I did some more research and found something interesting . Everyone with leading problem have mounted Holosun red dot on top of p322 including me. Holosun 507k is heavier than Romeo red dot. This makes slide run back slower - recoil spring seems to be to weak for Holosun. Low speed of slide causes that bullet don't bump properly in to feeding notch, and tending to go up - this could make additional scratching to bullet and make leading problem. Also with full mag loaded first round not going to enter the barrel properly (more pressure from mag spring need more strength from slide) I've extended this spring to give an extra power. Now everything works perfect. Feeding problem and surprisingly light primer strikes disappear (perhaps when bullet is pushed to chamber with greater power, the rim of bullet is more compressed, and dirt crushed?) Sig Sauer is aware of the recoil spring problem - they give stronger recoil spring to solve HV ammunition problem. www.sigtalk.com/threads/p322-extra-power-recoil-spring.425783/#post-6020166 . I hope this spring will be available to buy.
Another one coming in next week.
Any resolution on your P322?
It’s widely known to not buy a first gen sig item. They use their customers as QC shameful if you ask me
Lol. You’re not far off.
@@g4outdoors shit I’m a fan boy but even I know that lol. I buy stuff generally 2-3 years after it comes out from sig. Safety first :)
@@YdoIneedahandle869 we have to put out content, so we’re in a different position. I personally don’t have a use for any of the polymer 22lr currently out. I’ve always considered the Ruger Mark series platform as the gold standard in 22s.
@@g4outdoors i agree The ruger mark series gets even better when suppressed 👏 . Glad to see you giving the honest feedback. I’m grateful to tune in!
Did they charge you shipping?
So what happened? Is the gun fixed? Waiting for new barrel? Please do some kinda follow-up. I would like to know what happens. Lots of people are following the problem.
John
They still have it. I will definitely post an update video when I’m able to.
I just don't see myself paying that much for those when I can get a tx22 for a great price! Sig and glock prices are uncalled for! I'll stick with my main pistol brands Smith & Wesson and Canik!
I may have missed it but what is your S/N range? I have one I haven't shot yet (AZ fire restrictions) that is 21xxx serial and was curious if later serial numbers were resolved.
Good question, mine is 23xxx range, with only about 500 rounds thru it, barrel clean so far.
250 Aquila 38gr hp, 250 CCI mini mags target
@@garman7921 If you have 500 through it with no issues, you should be in the clear.
We have a p365 380, it stovepipes and double feeds. Back to sig second time. Not happy.
If you’re having this issue, should you send it back to them clean or not?
I sent it back dirty. I don’t want any misunderstanding of what was going on lol.
Any further updates?
Not yet. I should probably call and check in on it. It’s been a while.
Really interested in buying one how long do you think would I have to wait to get a good one.
Honestly, they probably have stock left to send out and hope for the best before they start a new run of barrels. Could be a year depending on how many they try to push out.
No P322 for me
You're holding your phone wrong - Apple regarding iPhone problems many years ago.
That took me a couple of minutes 😂
Any update?
Still waiting on Sig
Why and the hell is Sig sending people back there p322 with a bad barrel. It's been made obvious and clear that there is a issue with this gun. As far as mine i can say that the magazines for this gun are crap. Got 4 of em. My Taurus TX 22 I don't have to baby the mag while loading them like my Sig. They did a good job hyping this 22 pistol up. I'm a Sig guy to begin with but this pistol has been a disappointment from day one. Any you guys or gals have problem with Aguila super extra 40 grain? I get like 4-5 light primer strikes with every magazine. The 38 grain super extra hp fair much better.
TAURUS TX22 still KING!
I would have had to ask and inform the Sig rep that our community is now aware there is a problem with barrels leading up judging by the amount of returns they are getting why would you guys send my firearm back to me with a bad barrel and ask if they are doing quality control or test firing the gun before sending it back..
I had that conversation on the first barrel I sent back. They are fully aware, just not committed yet lol.
Did you ever hear back from Sig or get your handgun back?
Still waiting on my 3rd barrel lol.
No issues with mine with Serial number in the 7000's. I just checked mine, with well over a thousand rounds with Aguila 38 gr. I haven't really shot anything else though so maybe that's it. Don't know??
I’d say you got a good one if you haven’t had any problems after 1K rounds.
@@g4outdoors I sure hope so. I'll be honest I bought this pistol for the wife to keep our ammo cost down. I've never been a huge Sig fan. I like my Sti/Staccatos and Glocks.
@@russdennis7026 Coming from those guns? 🤣🤣. Nothing will compare unless you go with Ruger Mark series or Volquartsen lol. If I didn’t have my Scorpion so specked out, I’d still be rocking it every trip to the range. It was setup 100% target. Right at $1,600.
AND it shot everything!!
@@g4outdoors What the wife wants the wife gets. lol. I reload 9mm and if it keeps her from wanting to shoot my rounds I'm good with it. Have you seen the price of Primers these days? Ridiculous.
how'd you make out ??
They still have it 😤
@@g4outdoors WTF
Hey 👋
P322 only gun I ever owned that I wanted to sell
seems sig does not care, they are using the ford pinto plan
Secondly bring your firearm in for repair thru a ffl they are not going to charge you a transfer fee they cant you own the gun and arent going to need a background as they arent selling you anything
you should have returned the gun to the dealer that sold it to you and made the biggest scene as to get attention of the media because sig is not going to do anything different then they did in the past....they, sig needs to get bad press to straighten out the problem...the issue is the material they are using to make this barrel
I didn't fully watch your other video regarding the P322 lead build up for the second time, but did you consider breaking in your barrel before you consider the barrel being out of spec? Barrel breaking in means shooting a few times, clean the inside of the barrel, then keep repeating the same process a few more times. Then when finished try shooting slowly without mag dumping. Maybe that will solve the problem before you go through the hoops of sending it back. I'm just saying...
That’s not this kind of gun.
@@g4outdoors maybe it doesn't hurt to try. It's up to you. A lot of pro P322 accuse lead build up issues because of mostly bad ammo and excessive rapid fire.
The leading in these barrels is way beyond normal in a 22
The only time you should have to do that kind if brake in procedure ia for a high end target barrel. I have shot many various 22lrs in mt 35 years of shooting. I have never had this issue. Its bad manufacturing period. No amount of brake in procedure is going to help this FUBAR situation
@@michaelchan877 “a lot of pro P322” 🤔. If a “pro” says that this is an ammo issue probably shouldn’t be titled a “pro” lol. I mean, I’m technically a pro and I say it’s the barrel.
hey guys don't worry about buying P322. I ordered two P322 recently and have fired over 1000 rounds and there was absolutely no lead fouling at all. I don't know what they did but good job Sig! Two thumbs up!
It's now Sept 6th. WTF happened with the gun?
Bro... we can see your serial number on the email.....might want to delete this or edit
Doesn’t bother me at all.
Not to sound like a douche, but I'm in the market for a 22 autoloader, p322 is a skip? My other option is the Glock 44 (first choice before discovering the p322). Taurus tx22 not appealing to me.
Check out all of our latest videos! The 44 is great, the tx22 is great, if the Sig has a good barrel, it’s great too!
@@g4outdoors got it, thanks for the quick response!
My Sig p322 is.doing the same crap
Send’er back!!
Sig is too focused on quantity for government contracts. At this point, Taurus is a better company than Sig. I’m glad they’re getting sued for their Shake Awake firing technology in their P320s.
I’ve seen some reports that this issue could possibly be prevented by a barrel break in process of firing one rd at a time through a clean barrel and then scrubbing the barrel clean between each shot. The recommendation is to repeat the process approximately ten times. The theory is that there is rough edges on the rifling and this process smoothes them over similar to lead lapping. Shooting anymore than a few rds at a time between cleaning will stop the process by coating the edges with deposits.
The notion of breaking in a “tactical” 22lr handgun is ludicrous! Tell me why there are hundreds of thousands of $1,500 Volquartsen sold and never broke a barrel in nor required or recommended by the manufacturer! Tell me why my Ruger, Glock, Taurus, Browning, and Rough Rider doesn’t require a break in process. You really need to watch more of my P322 videos anyway. I shot 20, cleaned to 100%, shot 20, cleaned to 100%, and continued through 5 different ammo brands with the same results, lead puking out the barrel.
That's an excessive process for a pricy 22lr in my opinion.. unnecessary and ridiculous.
Weird how their newest guns keep failing in hysterically catastrophic ways, and yet the Army's basically granted them a monopoly on small arms for years to come...very strange...
P320 wasn't drop safe, 70+ reported unintended - NOT negligent - discharges in 6 years with injuries to law enforcement abound, lawsuits piling up but SIG fixed all the Army's M17s immediately and left the entire civilian market to ROT, to voluntarily send theirs in for free fixes so they won't pop a fucking bullet into your thighs when JOSTLED nevermind dropped....now P322 showing even worse problems than Glock 44s exploding on users...just hysterical. I personally know more than one person who's worked inside the plants in NH, and they send piss-poor QC examples out the door all the fucking time. You won't catch me buying anything made by SIG in the past decade, I'll stick with my FN 509 and Ruger SR22
I have to say I subscribed to your channel but Brian from tools and targets is arrogant and rude. If he talked to me like he did Sig, I wouldn’t help him out at all. And him making up lies on the lady at Sig? Yeah she said some stuff but Brian told a lie and made up stuff on her that she didn’t say, he made that shit up.
I’ll have to go check up on his channel. I honestly don’t watch any of his stuff, so I’m a little lost on your comment.
Im honestly not sure why anyone still likes Sig in 2023.....theyve crapped the bed