This is always a good galaxy for advanced astrophotographers, myself I’m still struggling with andromeda 😂, but still good to see people like you Trevor!
@@geckoram6286not really. A phone camera (no telescope or anything) on a tripod with an AP app can get it easily. Keep in mind it’s 3x the apparent size of the moon
Hey Trevor! I have been watching the channel for sometime now, and I recently had a little astrophotography renaissance. Just wanted to stop by and say you've been a great inspiration to me so far. Your photos are great! Even with my 8" dob, I still get super excited everytime I get a good picture. Really puts things into perspective. 🌙
Hey Trevor! I think the reason why you managed to get 20 subs within the hour is that the time on the photos is recorded at the end of the exposure, so your timer only started 3 minutes after you actually started taking exposures. Still an amazing image nonetheless :)
Regarding your question at 7:50 in the video, 20 subs in an hour is not possible with dithering, it's just a math error. 10:42pm is when your first exposure *ended*, so you actually started shooting at 10:39pm. 20 exposures from 10:39pm-11:41pm makes sense - it's actually an hour and two minutes of shooting. 60 minutes exposure time with 2 minutes overhead.
Great video by a true artist! Trevor, you really should look into getting an OCAL Electronic Collimator Pro for your large Newt. It’s a bit tricky to use at first, but the results are absolutely spot on! I’m sure a lot of your viewers would appreciate a video by you on how to use it. The current vids on it are not so great.
The final image was totally incredible! It was really impressive that you were able to take that image in only an hour! I can’t wait to see the next video 😀🌌
instead of a laser collimator, either use a barlowed laser collimator for enhanced precission and best for that beast you would need an autocollimator like the one astrosystems sells in conjunction with a artificial star. Both will help you collimate the scope before the astro session. Also how are you taking the flats after the session? since everything can affect the flats if you do it afterward?
I have a dumb question concerning subs. Each light sub we take has all the data needed to make an image. If two subs that are identical are stacked, the sum of data from two subs is better than the individual sub viewed alone. So, let's say we take 30, 5 minutes subs that are all sharp, free of atmospheric distortion, and contain about the same SNR. Say you stack these subs and get a decent image, how would that be different than taking one good 5 minute sub, duplicating it 30 times and then stacking and processing that image?
Because you would also duplicate the noise. With multiple exposures, the noise is not the same from one shot to the next. This allows you to sum up the good data and get rid of the noise.
Great image of the Whale and 'its pup' in just an hour. You have a nice set-up too! Shows you what you can achieve with short integration time. I managed only 30 minutes of the Whale galaxy (due to rubbish weather) but was surprised that the resultant image still came out okay!
That looks absolutely stunning for only 1 hour! Btw, what would your tips be (if any) to help protect a telescope like that from extreme temperatures, especially if you permanently mount it? It's going to possibly get 120°F later next week and it gets down in the 20's or even high teens in the winter. I'm worried about possible warping if I were to mount one in my yard.
What makes you take three fifteen minute long exposures instead of five 9 minute long exposures or nine 5 minute long exposures? How do you know what the sweet spot is? Is shorter more frequent exposure always better? What determines the limit?
I photographed this galaxy and the Hockey Stick galaxy when one of the Leonard comets was in the foreground. Unfortunately I didn't have very good equipment at the time so the subs weren't very good. No calibration frames either. Still, you can see clearly both galaxies and comet Leonard. I still haven't tried to process these frames, but at least I captured a rare event of a comet passing in front of two closer background galaxies. I now own an Orion HDX 110 mount, similar in many ways as the SkyWatcher version you own. I'm using an Orion 10" Newtonian astrograph on the mount and a newer William Optics Zenithstar 61mm, which I don't have a dedicated camera for yet. Unfortunately we may never see a comet in front of these galaxies again in our lifetime, at least I don't think we will. I am curious how often close background galaxies are joined in the same field of view, on average, by a comet. I'm guessing though it won't happen again im my lifetime.
Nice scope and the final image! A Quattro with a the Starizona 0.75x reducer was a gamechanger for me. My APO refractor has been collecting dust for a couple of years.
A good old power hour as I call them. Nice image Trevor. I have only ever imaged this once. I managed to get 20 mins on it, so I could do with revisiting it.
Trevor I wish I could produce a galaxy image this good with 5 hours total integration, never mind just 1!! such is my poor post processing! 😩😂 Loved that teaser at the end of the vid!? Can't wait to see that vid! Thanks as always Trevor! 👌👍 Wes, Liverpool, England.
You always do a great job trevor. You guys have a beautiful home. My wife liked the doors you have of glass. This has been a bad year for astrophotography. Now we have smoke here from the fires in canada. I would like to move to utah. Beautiful skys.
Nicely done Trevor. A suggestion - use your Esprit 150ED and mono camera to get Ha data on this galaxy and merge it in. The nebulae really add to this target. Not something that can be done in 1 hour though!
I've had a couple of those Skywatcher newts. Put a shower cap over the rear cell! They tend to leak light into the tube and can really mess up long exposures. I mean look at the mirror it's almost transparent.
Very nice final image Trevor. I have just got back into the hobby this year and the weather out here in SE Utah has not been cooperative at all ! I have only had one night (with a full moon) that was clear in June (crazy). I'm pretty sure that I'm the cause of all the cloudy weather after my interest peaked and I spent quite a bit of money to get up and running...Murphy's law at play. I'm looking forward to longer and clearer nights in the months ahead. Lets hope the weather gods cooperate with my plan. LOL... Anyway you do inspire me and I appreciate your videos...Cheers from Moab.
Amazing image! I've been wanting to shoot that galaxy as well but I will only be able to get an hour or two exposure before the trees block it! Good to know it can be done
Interesting video. There is something I don’t understand about refractors and DSO. If I use for visual observations for example a 150/750 mm F5 achromat and a 150/1200 F8 FPL53 APO, I understand that with the APO the Moon and planets will look 10x better and sharper but how about galaxies ? Will the galaxies look better in a high-quality APO than in a same-aperture short F5 achromat ? (For visual observations only, not astrophotography). Also is the contrast on galaxies better in the APO than in the same size achromat ? Thank you!
Busted! I picked up the slightly odd use of the letters OU... in your dialog. Then I see the hockey game on. So, where in Canada are you from? Kidding aside, that's a pretty good capture for an hour. You have inspired me!
Great video Trevor , love a fast Newtonian, & liked your comment about the 365 cover , I notice you have not put your observatory back up yet , I have a pod but 60 next month and increasingly difficult getting in and out although I still love it, I was contemplating getting a roll of roof type , but just something about a telescope in the garden with a 365 cover covering every angle of the sky ! No zeniths or walks to worry about ! Ps .. star clusters the underrated wonders of the night sky 👍
for someone like me who is a little bit into everything, buying big bulky telescopes is difficult, so i just settled with a 130eq astromaster, meanwhile my homestead is under construction, so waiting for those dark skies there, because my city house,... you know the lights!!
That’s awesome for 1 hour! With Asiair how does it know where the telescope is currently pointing so it knows how to slew to target? Do you have time align it/ calibrate first?
Hi @AstroBackyard, nicely done! Looks great. Quick question on getting setup tips from you - is that a Starizona Filter drawer attached to the Nexus Reducer? Did you use any spacers/adapters between the filter drawer and reducer? I have the same reducer and am trying to get the spacing correctly for use with my ZWO camera, filter drawer, and Nexus Reducer. Thanks!
Hey Trevor, amazing video as always. I moved to Canada to do my bachelor's in Astrophysics and i started Astrophotography because of you which lead me to studying Astrophysics. I am in the durham region and i dont really know any dark sky regions here in southern ontario,would you suggest any spots, thanks a lot.
Hi Trevor! I’m 14 years old and am new to astrophotography. All I use for my images is a Dwarf 2 smart telescope and process with apps on my phone. I was wondering if you had any tips for me, Clear Skies!
Sorry to break Oiler fans hearts but it was our first Championship. Trevor, I love your channel and content. It takes me away from the crap of reality, thank you, keep'em coming!
Just as I thought I'd moved past the cup finals 😭 Oilers '25 make it happen!! (Leafs preferably but you know..). What an incredible image too, amazing job as always!
Great video, Trevor. Yes, aperture counts. Question: How long did it take to stack in PI using WBPP? I'm guessing it was longer than the total integration time. - Patrick -
Nice job! You started from the finish time of your first image, not the start, which I think accounts for your dithering time (~2 extra minutes based on your timestamps) I'd sure be interested in seeing an image of the _rest_ of the subs compared to the first hour
Trevor, did you ever end up using Hyperstar on your C11 Edge? I mean F1.9 come on. Oh, and good luck, clear skies, on your trip to Byron. See if you can get out to a Bortle 1 site while in Oz.
Wow, what a beast of a scope. Love all your material you put out. It’s very inspiring and educational. Can you tell me the name of the first book you were looking through? Thanks
"Oilers in 7!" OOF, the biggest of OOFs. Sorry Trevor, I also hoped that we were going to witness one of the greatest comebacks/absolute collapses in sports history.
Kindly can someone tell me how to take care of fungus on my ED102 triplet glass. Will it be a problem if I try to open the glass and clean myself. Will it misalign?
Well, it's not about good vs bad laser collimator. They just usually need to be calibrated first. There are adjustment screws for that. I mean it's probably close anyway. But that's what they meant.
Uhhh, the pain. I wanted Edmonton to win but of course I knew Florida would take it in 7. Also, for a Newtonian *nothing* is a better tool than an autocolimator. When the optics are aligned the light circuit is closed and the image in the autocollimator goes dark. There's no doubt that the optics are in alignment.
This is always a good galaxy for advanced astrophotographers, myself I’m still struggling with andromeda 😂, but still good to see people like you Trevor!
Andromeda is one of the hardest targets in AP, along with Orion.
@@AshA-ww8hcwdym my first good image was orion
@AshA-ww8hc that's true. most people don't realize that.
@@AshA-ww8hc I guess you're being sarcastic but, on the gear that beginners usually shoot andromeda with, it can be quite the challenge
@@geckoram6286not really. A phone camera (no telescope or anything) on a tripod with an AP app can get it easily. Keep in mind it’s 3x the apparent size of the moon
Hey Trevor! I have been watching the channel for sometime now, and I recently had a little astrophotography renaissance. Just wanted to stop by and say you've been a great inspiration to me so far. Your photos are great! Even with my 8" dob, I still get super excited everytime I get a good picture. Really puts things into perspective. 🌙
F/3! That’s not fair!! 😅 Great work!
Hey Trevor! I think the reason why you managed to get 20 subs within the hour is that the time on the photos is recorded at the end of the exposure, so your timer only started 3 minutes after you actually started taking exposures. Still an amazing image nonetheless :)
Ah yes that makes sense!
Regarding your question at 7:50 in the video, 20 subs in an hour is not possible with dithering, it's just a math error. 10:42pm is when your first exposure *ended*, so you actually started shooting at 10:39pm. 20 exposures from 10:39pm-11:41pm makes sense - it's actually an hour and two minutes of shooting. 60 minutes exposure time with 2 minutes overhead.
Great video by a true artist! Trevor, you really should look into getting an OCAL Electronic Collimator Pro for your large Newt. It’s a bit tricky to use at first, but the results are absolutely spot on! I’m sure a lot of your viewers would appreciate a video by you on how to use it. The current vids on it are not so great.
I will check it out
The final image was totally incredible! It was really impressive that you were able to take that image in only an hour!
I can’t wait to see the next video 😀🌌
instead of a laser collimator, either use a barlowed laser collimator for enhanced precission and best for that beast you would need an autocollimator like the one astrosystems sells in conjunction with a artificial star. Both will help you collimate the scope before the astro session. Also how are you taking the flats after the session? since everything can affect the flats if you do it afterward?
Dude looks a lot like Sakis Tanimanidis , a Greek tv show presenter.
I have a dumb question concerning subs. Each light sub we take has all the data needed to make an image. If two subs that are identical are stacked, the sum of data from two subs is better than the individual sub viewed alone. So, let's say we take 30, 5 minutes subs that are all sharp, free of atmospheric distortion, and contain about the same SNR. Say you stack these subs and get a decent image, how would that be different than taking one good 5 minute sub, duplicating it 30 times and then stacking and processing that image?
Because you would also duplicate the noise. With multiple exposures, the noise is not the same from one shot to the next. This allows you to sum up the good data and get rid of the noise.
Lukomatico's latest video on telescope speed is quite interesting. Great job!
It was all greek/ gibberish form me but the end result is amazing, marvelous, superb, awesome. It's most beautiful presentation. Very well done 🎉
Great image of the Whale and 'its pup' in just an hour. You have a nice set-up too! Shows you what you can achieve with short integration time. I managed only 30 minutes of the Whale galaxy (due to rubbish weather) but was surprised that the resultant image still came out okay!
For one hour that looks good. Nothing wrong with that!
keep going - you're very passionate about your work and that's contagious!
Luv my lightbucket! For visual and astrophotography, a well collimated reflector reins!
Recently just got an Orion XT 8 on Facebook market place for 150$ and my god the images are amazing however my EQM35 hates it lmao
That looks absolutely stunning for only 1 hour! Btw, what would your tips be (if any) to help protect a telescope like that from extreme temperatures, especially if you permanently mount it? It's going to possibly get 120°F later next week and it gets down in the 20's or even high teens in the winter. I'm worried about possible warping if I were to mount one in my yard.
wow super video! great musical choice and stunning final sequence!!!
What makes you take three fifteen minute long exposures instead of five 9 minute long exposures or nine 5 minute long exposures? How do you know what the sweet spot is? Is shorter more frequent exposure always better? What determines the limit?
I photographed this galaxy and the Hockey Stick galaxy when one of the Leonard comets was in the foreground. Unfortunately I didn't have very good equipment at the time so the subs weren't very good. No calibration frames either. Still, you can see clearly both galaxies and comet Leonard. I still haven't tried to process these frames, but at least I captured a rare event of a comet passing in front of two closer background galaxies. I now own an Orion HDX 110 mount, similar in many ways as the SkyWatcher version you own. I'm using an Orion 10" Newtonian astrograph on the mount and a newer William Optics Zenithstar 61mm, which I don't have a dedicated camera for yet. Unfortunately we may never see a comet in front of these galaxies again in our lifetime, at least I don't think we will. I am curious how often close background galaxies are joined in the same field of view, on average, by a comet. I'm guessing though it won't happen again im my lifetime.
Nice scope and the final image! A Quattro with a the Starizona 0.75x reducer was a gamechanger for me. My APO refractor has been collecting dust for a couple of years.
Awesome video and great picture!!!! Can't wait to see what comes out of the passport clue at the end...
A good old power hour as I call them. Nice image Trevor. I have only ever imaged this once. I managed to get 20 mins on it, so I could do with revisiting it.
Amazind what u can get in 1 hr with the 12in reflector. Cant wait for your details from Austrilla !! Bill Needham
Trevor I wish I could produce a galaxy image this good with 5 hours total integration, never mind just 1!! such is my poor post processing! 😩😂
Loved that teaser at the end of the vid!? Can't wait to see that vid! Thanks as always Trevor! 👌👍
Wes, Liverpool, England.
Bless you and the Oilers. That was an incredible final. Nice photo.
You always do a great job trevor. You guys have a beautiful home. My wife liked the doors you have of glass. This has been a bad year for astrophotography. Now we have smoke here from the fires in canada. I would like to move to utah. Beautiful skys.
Nicely done Trevor. A suggestion - use your Esprit 150ED and mono camera to get Ha data on this galaxy and merge it in. The nebulae really add to this target. Not something that can be done in 1 hour though!
Once again!! Love the content and Images!! Truly an inspiration to a beginner like myself!! The Thanks Trevor!!
Thank you!!
I've had a couple of those Skywatcher newts. Put a shower cap over the rear cell! They tend to leak light into the tube and can really mess up long exposures. I mean look at the mirror it's almost transparent.
I love the video concept, Trevor! Beautiful results, too :)
Very nice! Just wondering ..... would be nice to do another video on Astronomy books if you've come across any New one's you've encountered
Very nice final image Trevor. I have just got back into the hobby this year and the weather out here in SE Utah has not been cooperative at all ! I have only had one night (with a full moon) that was clear in June (crazy). I'm pretty sure that I'm the cause of all the cloudy weather after my interest peaked and I spent quite a bit of money to get up and running...Murphy's law at play. I'm looking forward to longer and clearer nights in the months ahead. Lets hope the weather gods cooperate with my plan. LOL... Anyway you do inspire me and I appreciate your videos...Cheers from Moab.
Amazing image! I've been wanting to shoot that galaxy as well but I will only be able to get an hour or two exposure before the trees block it! Good to know it can be done
I think this maybe my next target with Las Cumbres Observatory! You sir hatched an idea!
As you were skimming through your guide book, I noticed you skimmed past "the hockey stick galaxy"...nicely done! Sorry about the Oilers though
Interesting video. There is something I don’t understand about refractors and DSO. If I use for visual observations for example a 150/750 mm F5 achromat and a 150/1200 F8 FPL53 APO, I understand that with the APO the Moon and planets will look 10x better and sharper but how about galaxies ? Will the galaxies look better in a high-quality APO than in a same-aperture short F5 achromat ? (For visual observations only, not astrophotography). Also is the contrast on galaxies better in the APO than in the same size achromat ? Thank you!
Busted! I picked up the slightly odd use of the letters OU... in your dialog. Then I see the hockey game on. So, where in Canada are you from?
Kidding aside, that's a pretty good capture for an hour. You have inspired me!
Well done, the 12"is a beast, I have the 8"and love it but struggle with collimation.. great pic. Looking forward to your adventure Down under
Great video Trevor , love a fast Newtonian, & liked your comment about the 365 cover , I notice you have not put your observatory back up yet , I have a pod but 60 next month and increasingly difficult getting in and out although I still love it, I was contemplating getting a roll of roof type , but just something about a telescope in the garden with a 365 cover covering every angle of the sky ! No zeniths or walks to worry about ! Ps .. star clusters the underrated wonders of the night sky 👍
for someone like me who is a little bit into everything, buying big bulky telescopes is difficult, so i just settled with a 130eq astromaster, meanwhile my homestead is under construction, so waiting for those dark skies there, because my city house,... you know the lights!!
Newtonians for the win. I've been using my 10" @ f/3.5 with the Starizona Nexus for over a year now and I love it!
great video! i love how your videos are so relaxing man. love your work so much.
Thank you!
That’s awesome for 1 hour!
With Asiair how does it know where the telescope is currently pointing so it knows how to slew to target?
Do you have time align it/ calibrate first?
did you use atmosferic dispertion corrector in that setup ? Or it necessary for astro photo setups ?
My understanding is the SvBony laser collimator comes pretty well aligned and doesn't lose it too easily. Ive had no problems with mine
Glad to hear that! Thanks :)
Hi @AstroBackyard, nicely done! Looks great. Quick question on getting setup tips from you - is that a Starizona Filter drawer attached to the Nexus Reducer? Did you use any spacers/adapters between the filter drawer and reducer? I have the same reducer and am trying to get the spacing correctly for use with my ZWO camera, filter drawer, and Nexus Reducer. Thanks!
gotta love the 12" quattro. Mine is on the CQ350. How to you find the reducer?
Amazing photo for just one hour Trev! Looking forward to seeing you Saturday!
That 12 inch is a monster. I am good with my 8 inch Vixen RS200SS with the 0.75x reducer. Wish me clear skies.
"A globular cluster would have been a great choice, but I mean, come on."
wow! This video is amazing. And I need to try the 1 hour challenge my self lol ❤😂
Hey Trevor, amazing video as always. I moved to Canada to do my bachelor's in Astrophysics and i started Astrophotography because of you which lead me to studying Astrophysics. I am in the durham region and i dont really know any dark sky regions here in southern ontario,would you suggest any spots, thanks a lot.
Hi Trevor! I’m 14 years old and am new to astrophotography. All I use for my images is a Dwarf 2 smart telescope and process with apps on my phone. I was wondering if you had any tips for me, Clear Skies!
This is amazing. Love your work Trevor.❤️🙏🏽
Wow. Aperture fever lives! Nice image Trevor.
What about dooing a 1shot image mono style challenge ? You get 1 exposure per filter to create an image, combined with calibration frames ofcoarse.
Well done Trevor, love your content.
Are you in Australia?
you should do a project with this setup and get as much integration time as you can get; would be cool imo.
I just got back from Colorado and saw the ring nebula and M13 for the first time in my awkward 90mm Orion. It was cool
Your thumbnails are so easy to click on, I can’t help myself from watching some of your videos twice 😂
Sorry to break Oiler fans hearts but it was our first Championship. Trevor, I love your channel and content. It takes me away from the crap of reality, thank you, keep'em coming!
Just as I thought I'd moved past the cup finals 😭 Oilers '25 make it happen!! (Leafs preferably but you know..). What an incredible image too, amazing job as always!
😊
Great video, fantastic image - thanks for sharing!
Great video, Trevor.
Yes, aperture counts. Question: How long did it take to stack in PI using WBPP? I'm guessing it was longer than the total integration time.
- Patrick -
Great image, and in record time! That rig is a beast! Dr B from Manitoba, Canada 🇨🇦
love ur content❤got in astronomy about 1 and a half years ago and finally could get a telescope last week!
Have fun!
Nice job! You started from the finish time of your first image, not the start, which I think accounts for your dithering time (~2 extra minutes based on your timestamps)
I'd sure be interested in seeing an image of the _rest_ of the subs compared to the first hour
That's it - thank you!
Can you do a tutorial on how you calibrate and stack images from your ASI294mc pro .
Trevor, did you ever end up using Hyperstar on your C11 Edge? I mean F1.9 come on.
Oh, and good luck, clear skies, on your trip to Byron. See if you can get out to a Bortle 1 site while in Oz.
It's an absolutely stunning image!!!
Cinematography is always on point🤙
Looking forward to seeing you in person in just under a week!
Fabuloso amigo Trevor bella galaxia buen procesado saludos desde Honduras
You're a master at your craft, Trevor
Wow, what a beast of a scope. Love all your material you put out. It’s very inspiring and educational. Can you tell me the name of the first book you were looking through? Thanks
"Oilers in 7!" OOF, the biggest of OOFs. Sorry Trevor, I also hoped that we were going to witness one of the greatest comebacks/absolute collapses in sports history.
Love all of your videos. Been a subscriber for a long time. I have learned a lot and I always look forward to seeing your next new one!
Thank you!
This is phenomenal
Nice one mate great work
Impressive as always!
Thanks!
Dylan and Trevor get to battle in the Thunderdome!
Do you upload your photos to astrobin so we can see the uncompressed images? Thank you sir!
I wish one day I can have a rig as good as this or even skill like this I just can’t afford a descent rig or tracking mount
I'm curious how much time on a picture like this do you spend doing the final edits after stacking?
Kindly can someone tell me how to take care of fungus on my ED102 triplet glass. Will it be a problem if I try to open the glass and clean myself. Will it misalign?
Who is gonna be mad for seeing such a beautiful picture of a Galaxy ?
I love it ❤
This video is definitely for me, with our famous weather in France 😂
I would love to see you experiment with lucky imaging with the 14" skywatcher using NINA.
Well, it's not about good vs bad laser collimator. They just usually need to be calibrated first. There are adjustment screws for that.
I mean it's probably close anyway. But that's what they meant.
amazing trevor. your vids are just awesome man
Thank you! 😊
Thank you Trevor for your video! Clear Skies:)
Hard to beat a good-sized reflector for galaxies 👍
Great video, im actually shooting to EAGLE nebula rn, could you tell me the name of the book you have used to see the celestial body?
2nd what is the book you showed?
Another amazing video 🔥🔥
Uhhh, the pain. I wanted Edmonton to win but of course I knew Florida would take it in 7. Also, for a Newtonian *nothing* is a better tool than an autocolimator. When the optics are aligned the light circuit is closed and the image in the autocollimator goes dark. There's no doubt that the optics are in alignment.
another awesome pic trevor
Are you going "Down Under" with that same scope? because that would be beyond epic.
Start a whole series on one hour challenge
what is a good budget telescope for deepsky objects?
6" Quattro:D