Captain America Civil War SPOILERS Movie Review
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Captain America Civil War Movie Review with SPOILERS! Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph gives you her own review aka reaction to Captain America Civil War! Spider-Man! Black Panther! Winter Soldiers! Zemo! Tony Stark's parents! The death of Howard Stark! Which is the best action scene? The best fight? Should you see the full movie? Enjoy Captain America Civil War in 2016, and make Beyond The Trailer your first stop for movie news, trailer and review on RUclips today!
CHAPTER TIMES
Intro - 1:10
Big Reveal at Arctic Base - 2:27
Zemo - 8:08
Missed Emotional Punches - 9:47
Winter Soldiers - 12:26
Script - 13:51
Civil War Accords - 15:37
Action Sequences - 16:34
Iron Man - 22:10
Bucky - 23:12
Black Panther - 24:27
Black Widow - 25:35
Scarlet Witch - 27:02
Vision - 28:39
Wanda and Vision - 29:44
Falcon - 30:29
Ant-Man - 31:23
Hawkeye - 32:04
War Machine - 32:34
Spider-Man - 34:11
General Ross - 35:33
Everett Ross - 36:40
Sharon Carter - 37:09
Crossbones - 38:01
Conclusion - 38:44
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I disagree. I fully support Cap. He's choosing Bucky because that's his friend he grew up with. Bucky saved his ass before he became Captain America. Even if you make new friends you never forget about the one you grew up with. Bucky was brainwashed when he did his assassinations. I have friends in prison that grew up with as a kid. They took me in and they became family .I would protect them if they were falsely accused of something. I get were Cap is coming from and I don't think he's selfish if anything he's the first one to put his life on the line for his team and for the public. He would die protecting his best friend and his team. I get where Iron man is coming from but like Cap if ppl next help we go to help instead of asking if we can help.
I was disgusted by Cap. He's lost all credibility.
Word.
+José Murillo Sáenz really? Would Cap have kept his credibility for you if at the end of the film he stepped aside and said to Tony, "Go ahead and murder Bucky"? Because Cap remained honourable, level headed and moral, he lost his credibility for you? Wow!
Agreed. Cap all the way.
+José Murillo Sáenz And Tony who allies himself with the man who'd use the Sokovia thing to catch, torture, kill and study if he'd think of it Bruce Banner, also Tony's friend and Science Bro? I'm sorry, but Tony has basically committed betrayal then and there.
Cap dropping the shield was by no means an attempt to spite or hurt Tony more, if anything it was an attempt to make peace before leaving. It was nothing to do with Bucky. If Tony, beaten and bloody, had shouted that the shield was his father's, and then Cap and KEPT it, I think that would have been a worse thing for him to do.
Exactly!
When Tony yelled that Cap doesn't deserve that shield, I thought Cap dropping it was his way of saying "Maybe you're right".
+Cometmoon448 Well put, it was exactly as I interpreted that scene.
you since vibranium comes from Wakanda Cap shouldn't have a problem getting one that's his from Black Panther.
+Cometmoon448 - I concur! I totally agree with your statement!
They were all pulling their punches. That's why the moment someone actually gets injured there was a ceasefire lol. Antman accidentally threw a gas truck and said it was a water truck after the face. If it was a real fight Vision and Wanda would have wiped out the rest of the teams almost instantly.
Did you forget Bucky was brainwashed? He would never have killed Tony's parents or anyone else that the Winter Soldier killed
+Robert Sonera That never seems to matter in comic book land. Its an annoying trope of the genre.
Personally, I sympathise with both Bucky and Tony. Bucky is a victim in all of this. None of it was his fault and he has to live with that for the rest of his life. However, if you put yourself in Tony's shoes, he has spent 20+ years believing his parents' death was an accident and it turns out they were murdered. I know Bucky was brainwashed, but if my parents were murdered I wouldn't find it a suitable excuse, so I can really understand both sides of the argument
Bucky is a victim. And Tony Stark was written like a sociopath in this movie to make the conflict occur
Brandon Reed He is still trying to get his memory in order, when all this take place. And the authority were after Bucky, believing he blew up the embassy.
Brandon Reed Did Tony left his friends in prison after knowing that the person they were defending was framed? YES. Did Tony recruit a 15 year old to a conflict he wasn't a part of by threatening him to telling his secret identity to his aunt? YES, Was Tony going to kill a person he knew was mind controlled to murder his parents? YES. Was Tony implementing the Sokovia accords before they were approved by the UN? YES. He even imprisoned Scarlet Witch because she prevented the deaths of hundreds. And lied about the avengers being handled by a UN committee since he clearly was taking orders by the Secretary of Defense of the USA. Let's see if Batman did those things if you have the need to compare them both.
Grace. You are so TeamIronman. Bucky was brainwashed, he's a victim. That's why Cap protects him. I don't why you dislike Bucky so much. He even gave up his life at the end of the movie because he's a good guy and he doesn't want to hurt anyone. At the end Cap was right about Zimo (and Bucky) and Tony was wrong.
+Sabatino Di G Wha? They killed off Bucky? oh man, didn't see that coming.
+randomer1432 oh ok. thanks!
+randomer1432 potentially forever. So yes, he has given up his life.
I think they were both right... and both wrong. Their respective sides were just so black and white it was kinda stupid.
The cause and affect of people with powers, and those rising to challenge them, was a legit point. However, these heroes are in the best position to stop those threats. How many people would die if they had to wait around for permission to save the day? And putting these powered being in the hands of the government is like giving them a WMD. And the way governments are, so trigger-happy, you're mostly just creating a bigger threat.
On the other side of things there SHOULD be consequences. Marvel movies have shown zero responsibility. It was even lacking in Civil War. Sure, it seemed like they were addressing that, but at the end of the movie the only real consequence is that Tony and Steve have fallen out.
Neither team was truly right. They both had good points that needed to be addressed, but the right answser was somewhere in the middle. A grey-area, rather than black or white.
+Sabatino Di G okay, that's just an unfair comment. Okay, so Tony was wrong about Bucky bombing the meeting, that doesn't mean that Bucky didn't need to be brought in, because to everyone (except Captain America) he is a criminal. but Captain America is wrong everywhere else. I mean, aside from the accord he lied to his former teammate, his friend for so long. not just that, but he chose Bucky over everyone, even Falcon kind of by going to the prison with just Bucky. Tony lost his parents and lost it. if Tony did what Bucky did, Captain America would not forgive him. plus the battle was brutal, he didn't stop even after tony was beat, he destroyed him just for bucky. so in my opinion, tony is more right than captain america
What the hell????????????? Wanda not feeling bad??????? She couldn't look at the tv, she was holding it together just remember it's probably not long since Pietro died😕she was so upset and she was scared of her powers after she did this, she blamed herself. She said it herself. What movie were you in fam???
Loved Ant-Man in this. "It's your conscience, we don't talk a lot these days."
+Storm Arrow Yeah, that one made me literally LOL, and not much does.
I didn't even notice it was a Funding Neno reference until someone pointed it out to me the next day haha
awsome more reason I want to see this movie is ant-man is one of my favorite new superhero can't wait to see how great he is in this movie!
Favourite Ant-Man line
Wait did you miss the point of it all? To me it seemed clear that Cap was not doing what he did out of devotion to Bucky, but because there was a shoot-to-kill order out for someone he knew was innocent. To put it another way, do you believe that he would have done the same things if he was convinced that Bucky was actually guilty of the bombing?
I couldn't have put it better myself. Grace has a habit of missing the point so often.
exactly
+Jim Bo Some of Grace's viewers have habit of being emotional crybabies when she has a different opinion or view point from theirs
+onyx081 I agree 100% Seems like they completely forget what an opinion is....
+Milton Jones Yes and how was Cap gonna ask about how Rhodey was doing when he didn't even know Rhodey was hurt? Or did he know? I don't remember
Jeez im on team ironman and even i think this was incredibly anti cap
+Conman Reloaded Yeah, like when she said Cap doesn't like Tony? Like what has she been watching these last eight years? I'm also team Iron Man but damn
+Tony LeeIm not to mention it seemed like Tony And Cap finally became friends towards the beginning of the film like the scene when he asked if pepper was pregnant it seemed like he was happy for his friend before he found out what really happened
*****
Yeah! They've always had that sort of relationship. Sure they argued but they always had that loving relationship haha
+Conman Reloaded The more I watch this unfold in the comments, the more I realise that at least to some extent Grace is merely trolling us to generate more comments by stirring up controversy in the absence of any real ability to provide a more insightful review. IMO anyone who has their own RUclips channel has to be at least a little bit of an attention-whore, so it's quite understandable, and certainly I don't hold it against her, although I won't ever be watching any of her 'reviews' as a result of her apparent inability to actually... well, you know, _review_ films.
As the late, great Elizabeth Taylor once said "Darling, the only bad publicity is NO publicity!"
+Glenn Wallbridge Agreed on most points although I don't think she's trolling. I consider it more of her being an extreme Tony Stark fan.
I don't normally watch such reviews because I normally watch Collider instead because those guys are pure comic book fans and they always have a counterpoint should anyone have beef with any part of a particular movie. I'd say they give an accurate assessment and proper review of how to rate a comic book movie.
This, on the other hand, while she has valid points on some, majority is just her complaining and whining. I mean really? You want to nitpick on each character when the fact is this is a CAPTAIN AMERICA movie and not an Avengers movie? Plus, her flow of information is all over the place.
I'm just watching it for the lulz. And even if I do watch another review from her, I won't be able to take her opinions seriously.
Captain America breaking the law and being selfish? I'm going to argue that Bucky wasn't in his own control during the times he did bad things. The UN also weren't bringing Bucky in, they were going to shoot to kill. In a way, the UN were taking justice into their own hands, and Captain America was standing in their way (as implied from Sharon Carter's eulogy from what Peggy had once told her), regardless of whether it was breaking the current law and everyone being against him. Bucky is the only one alive that's from Cap's era. With Peggy Carter gone, there's literally no one else! Also, Bucky would have done the same thing that Cap did, if the situation were reversed. I don't see that as being selfish, but to sacrifice all your current friends' friendships, and becoming a criminal in order to stand up for a friend that is innocent (albeit guilty with mind control) and needs your help? If that's being selfish, I'll take that cushy job and let my innocent friend die, just so I'm "un-selfish".
right on
+Ebon Kim Exactly. Captain remained consistent to his character even under extreme pressure. I like Grace reviews, but she sometimes miss the point, I think. Stark was just following his feelings of regret and vengeance(consistent with HIS character) in a selfish way, not thinking about the consequences of his actions to his friends or the world.
OMG, not sure we saw the same movie!
I agree. I usually like Grace's reviews, but this one felt biased and nitpicky.
+Robert C
sorry found this be honest
and the movie has flaws
flaws grace hasn't even mentioned
believe me I can be brutally honest and found 24 flaws
but hey u like it cool
+The K&S Channel I was wondering why this review had so many dislikes, then I watched.
+The K&S Channel I found this review to be honest as well. She gave props where it wad deserved and honest criticism where it was needed. Maybe she had some that was biased but to say this movie was flawless would be incorrect.
The action was amazing, some of the best ever in movies.
But the movie as a whole seemed like it was 2 intro movies (Spider-man, Black Panther, or in comic book terms issue's #0), Captain America 3 with Bucky resolution, Avengers 2.5 with the Accords, and then the end of the movie story line could be partly interpreted as Iron Man 4.
Just my opinion.
Also, I don't like that Iron Man will be in the Spider-man movie, I don't like how they explained (or did not explain) how Stark knows aunt May..
+Anthony SkeeteTony came to Peter's home and introduced himself
now they know each other's name
funny how she ignores so many flaws in BvS and yet can nit pick apart Civil war to no end.
I think Captain America's loyalty to Bucky makes sense. Not only are they best friends from their youth, but remember when the base was blowing up in The First Avenger? Cap tells Bucky to get out and save himself when they are separated. Bucky says, "I won't leave you!" I think it's totally believable that he is loyal to Bucky over anyone else.
Captain America Civil War is The Empire Strikes Back of the MCU. Some people will get the comparison many won't get it at all.
True
I DID!😃 I...I understood that reference😳
What is going on between you and John Campea because I watched his video and he destroyed your argument
Dude that movie is so old
+Themadbomber187 probably all phase 3 is the empire strikes back (not in quality but in structure), phase 3 is kind of the end of the second act just before the grand finale which will be infinity wars.
I don't think Cap even knew what happened to Rhodes.
How did falcon deserve that blast from tiny after Rhodes fell? Falcon dodged a blast that was meant for his engine. The same thing could have potentially happens to him. It wasn't anyone's fault really. And if anything everybody should respect falcon for stopping to go down and check on him. Falcon could have went and backed up cap and Bucky. As a matter a fact if same did go and back up them up Tony might not have showed up in the first place.
IKR!!!!!!
+Beaze17 I didn't get how that was his fault either. Tony pretty much condemned Falcon to that fall and then got all pissy when he dodged.
It wasn't Falcon's fault. But, given Tony's situation, I would have done the same thing.
Put yourself in Tony's shoes. Wouldn't you be mad at the people that are making it so complicated for you to make everything what you think is right? I certainly would.
+Beaze17 Why are you even talking about that tiny blast when Rhodey can't walk now? Also, it's like you've said
" Falcon could have went and backed up cap and Bucky." he would have went right after them if Tony didn't blast him. Like it was the whole point - to arrest them. +alex johnson what do you mean didn't deserve? He sided with Cap and they were FIGHTING. Tony in that case didn't deserve to have a pile of cars raining down on him thax to Clint. And Rhodey didn't deserve to have that oil Tank thrown his way. it was a matter of time before someone got hurt.
Cap was prepared to hurt them when he went all Battle mode.
Or what Do you people think would have happened there? They all would have continued without anyone even being injured?
Cap went nuts because of Bucky, even Buck realized that. Also, Tony was given 36 hours to bring them in OR Rosse would have send police forces after them with orders TO KILL. Tony was doing Cap a favour here or instead of fighting against his friends Cap would have had to fight against SWAT. Which are good guys too, but Cap would have obliterated them and made himself even more of a criminal. He already fought German Police.
Sorry Grace, but I'm in Cap's camp in this movie. You seem to have this fixation with Tony Stark, but as the Black Widow mentioned, Stark let his ego get the best of him. Also, Cap feels absolutely guilty about Bucky's brainwashing and in the end, they both wanted to stop Zemo, not get into an altercation with Iron Man. Great movie, but I agree with your assessment of the Winter Soldiers... I was surprised they were killed and thus were a non-factor. Overall you seem to have a lot of flaws for this movie, but I would argue this was a much superior film than Batman vs Superman, which you had nothing negative to speak about.
*COPIED AND PASTED*
I disagree. I fully support Cap. He's choosing Bucky because that's his friend he grew up with. Bucky saved his ass before he became Captain America. Even if you make new friends you never forget about the one you grew up with. Bucky was brainwashed when he did his assassinations. Its not Bucky's fault that he gets made to do these things, he has no control. Its like blaming a gun for killing a person rather than blaming the guy who pulls the trigger! People underestimate how much Bucky means to Cap. Bucky was always protecting Cap, and when Bucky died Cap feels as if he failed to protect him. He feels responsible for all that Bucky has been through, and Bucky is not guilty because he is a victim of mind control. Also now with Peggy gone, Bucky is Cap's only link to the past, and he doesn't want to lose that.
His breaking the law actually follows his character. Cap represents the American spirit of civil disobedience to stand up for what is right. He rejects the accords because he knows that it will lead to the same corrupt system the viewer is left with at the end. He has lived long enough to see the most trusted organizations such as SHIELD get corrupted and he knows that if they sign off on their rights then even more people could die. The accords strips the avengers of all agency and leaves them as puppets for Thunderbolt Ross, that will be imprisoned for simply trying to save lives. He understands that yes, innocent people die in their battles, but the fact that they are fighting prevents the much greater bloodshed that would occur if they didn't. Further, his devotion to Bucky is integral to his character. Bucky is innocent, and although he killed Stark's parents, Bucky was but a prisoner in his own body with no control. As Bucky says in the movie he remembers all the people he killed and has to live with the guilt of that even though he was being controlled the whole time. Captain America fights to protect these innocent people, especially his best friend. Iron man is the one who lost all control and rationality in that scene and went to kill Bucky who was the true victim in all of this. In his rage it was clear that Tony would have killed not only Bucky but Cap as well where as Cap was only trying to prevent further bloodshed. So fans forgive him because he stuck by what is right the entire film.
Jordan M. Sebastian Stan said that Bucky didn't remember all people he killed. He said it because he knew Tony wanted to hear that. He wanted Tony to kill him but he would still fight. It was like defence mechanism.
The thing is, Bucky was a victim this whole time, he's had no control over himself when he did those things and Steve sees that. I understand why Tony was as hurt as he was but he did go into a blind, violent, rage and if that was what his response was going to be, its easy to understand why he didn't tell him. Even though it was wrong to hide it from him it was to protect Tony's feelings although it only ended up hurting his feelings before. Steve went too far at times, but so did Tony. I mean the blast that hit Warmachine was meant for Falcon - if Vision hit his mark, Sam would be in the same bind as Rhodey. I think they both had good points and both went too far with them - which made for a compelling movie with good tension and lots of grey areas to think of.
I don't think Steve is obsessed with Bucky, I think Grace is obsessed with Tony.
Exactly she didn't see caps point of view at all
Straight facts
With all due respect, your interpretation of Cap is way off.
How
@@Sodeadrn She's had it out for Steve for years.
@@ShadowSonic2 and? For good reasons.
@@Sodeadrn Not really. Name one thing about him she's correct in disliking about Steve .
@@ShadowSonic2 eh I'll give you two hes a self righteous black ops agent and he literally puts the world in danger for his brotherly love with bucky lmao hes ignorant asf
Tony always acts out of guilt - worse he OVERREACTS. he's an overcorrector and often acts without considering the consequences. He is in no position to call the shots.
One word: Sociopath
+Nicky Thompson As so aptly contained in Wanda's "Ultron cannot tell the difference between saving the world, and destroying it. Where do you think he gets that?"
absolutely not. Cap acted with zero concern for anyone but bucky, he's the irresponsible one.
+jackthecb another reason why tony stark is better creator than hank pym. hank pym carry none of ultron powers, or personality. most of ultron power are closer to tony stark.
+Mr. Lyon Bullshit did he, he was protecting his friend because if he didn't they would have unfairly Imprisoned him or worse killed him.
This review hurt my soul. So much of this is explained.
Example: Cap's "obsession" with Bucky.
Cap defends Bucky, not just because they're friends, but because Bucky wasn't *at all* accountable for his actions. When you *know* officials are gonna kill someone because of something beyond their control, that is government sanctioned murder.
"why would they try to kill Bucky before investigation"
He's the fucking Winter Soldier.
"why'd Cap throw down the shield at the end?"
Maybe out of respect for Tony's emotional state...?
"why do people like Cap? Is it because he looks good?"
... whut?...
My god.
and not to mention that he didn't even commit the attack and was innocent, this is another reason why Cap didn't sign the accords, government told you to go kill Winter Soldier without him being committed of a crime....
this review is so confusing. the nit picking is amazing. All the concerns you have with Captain America is explain if you paid attention to this movie and remember what took place in the others. very disappointed with this review.
+Ronald D. Stovall, Jr. yea i used to subscribe to her years ago. came back just for this review but yea this will be a last
Thank you! Good to know someone pays attention to these characters' development.
Any facts or reasoning for your comment? Or are you just mad she pointed out cap is selfish and hypocritical?
@@Sodeadrn most of her nitpickings have explainations in the movie itself i.e if you watch it properly without entirely being one-sided.
Grace it would have been a worse insult for Cap to take the shield! Bucky is a victim, Tony was in a blind, irrational rage!
+Freddy Cepeda "let me make up crap about how critics were paid off to hate BvS" . . . yeah we know
+Cassandra Grace is not just bias - she's EXTREMELY bias. During the entire review she didn't find even ONE issue with Tony but kept going back to her issues with Cap and Bucky. I don't understand how she had so many issues with Civil War and yet she thought BvS was so great.
she said she fells like the movie script wasnt for Iron man....heellllloooo ITS NOT!!!!!!!!! ITS A CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE ....ITS NOT SUPPOSE TO BE FOR IRON MAN
The amount of things you got wrong is astounding to me
I don't think you understand that Cap was only trying to defend the real victim of the movie, Bucky. This guy has been psychologically abused and re-abused for the last century and is the last friend Cap has from his original life. You have some obvious disdain for Cap and a love affair with Tony. I don't remember you being this hard on Tony Stark for creating Ultron and almost ushering in the apocalypse.
Also you don't understand why Cap was opposed to the Accords? He brings up MULTIPLE times the accords would make the avengers a tool for the powerful and handicap the team from helping the world. Again your bias against Cap and toward Stark is apparent here.
I get it. Captain America is BAD. He broke the law to defend an innocent man. You don't seem at all bothered that Tony Starks manipulated a kid into fighting for him.
+WTFwasthat? omg yes fucking yes no one seems to understand what he did to spiderman!
+WTFwasthat? I thought it was interesting that he actually said a similar line as Rogers when he was recruited about standing up for the little guy. I figured Spiderman would end up flipping sides like the comic book storyline but that didn't happen.
+jayhartRIC i was hoping he would switch sides tol
Im team ironman i didn't like how he did that XD
Okay Grace that's enough. You're obviously in denial about Batman V Superman being a disappointment so you're making ridiculous complaints about civil war. You literally had a problem with every category in this video. Where was all this criticism with BvS? Also was that "marvel doesn't have good villains anyway" jab necessary?
+Dre the DreAmer I'm fully aware this movie has flaws, however it's Graces DC bias is starting to get old.
+Dre the DreAmer If I'm not mistaken she gave BvS a higher grade. That's not just these movies either, grace always favours DC
Grace: "I'm gonna rant and complain about anyone on Team Cap!"
Yeah Grace, you're flat out wrong on this one. Especially your assessment of Cap's character and motivation.
exactly, shes team iron man
+kerry foster that explains everything
+Charisma Daniel i was really thrown off by her opinion, but i figure shes judging the movie and not theowing the comics into her opinion
I love how Grace compares Batman v Superman and Zac Snyder to Stanely Kubrik and nit picks at Civil War which let's face it is way better than BvS
Ahahahaha...she tried to be subtle about it too...
craziest thing is that the negative comments she makes about Civil War are the negative comments many people have made about BvS!
+spaceboy2095 shut up batman v superman. is fanatic
+Humberto Mendoza DC needs to give the rights back to Marvel
Yeah, they're the only ones who could do Superman, Wonderwoman, Green Lantern,The Flash right on a big screen!
Are you kidding me??
Cap's side was the right side.
Because everybody knows that bucky was under hydra's influence when he murdered tony's parents and the real bucky wouldn't do it. So, yeah if I come to know that my best friend has done something wrong but under influence and I know for sure that he wouldn't do it on his own I would definitely support him.
On the other hand tony has the right to be pissed off but in the end he has to understand that it was not bucky rather hydra that murdered his parents.
ik, but I agree that he is so ignorant about bucky. Like nothing can change his mind. like a city can be destroyed if bucky can stay alive. He even teared the entire avengers just because of bucky. He harmed innocent men like the underwear prison guards and the German police force just because of bucky. At the end of the day cap was like a kid who didn't listen to others. He thought of himself and bucky and that's it, while Tony thought of everyone. He didn't harm any civilians that entire movie, he held back against cap (think about the hulk buster), even in the airport he said "I'm trying to keep us together." he heard the cry of a mother who lost her son, and tried to improve the team, while cap never heard the cry of the innocent but the cry of his teammates. like when scarlet wich accidentally killed the people. He didn't stop and reflect on himself. He didn't Moran about it. just said oops I shouldn't paid more attention. while iron man did that entire background check on that one kid who died. and said dam I messed up I'm sorry. this is why I'm with iron man
You're 100% right...and I kind of feel like that's the biggest flaw in the movie.
Framing the movie around the hunt for Bucky naturally means that there is never ideological parity between Cap's team and Tony's. Cap is right, Tony is wrong because Tony is LITERALLY WRONG (as in, is operating under false info for most of the movie, and then operates purely out of revenge and rage in the last minutes--however justified that rage was or was not).
Wish the movie had been more about a group of good people forced to turn on eachother for the best reasons--they are all genuinely fighting for what they believe is right. Or rather...I wish the movie hadn't cast one side of that conflict as tragic idiots.
+Ian Kirkpatrick you just said it. Iron man did not hurt any guards or etc. Bc he was only focussing the fixing of his fellloe friends. If you can't take limitations than you're no better than the villains. Cap did his stuff for personal reasons of revenge or sadness. Just like most villain in the Marvel. Iron man put his personal side away and did what he haves to do what is right. What is the difference between a president and a dictator? that dictators creates laws and enforce laws Because of their personal reasons. That makes them dangerous, because if they follow a man who ALWAYS thinks he is right, than who can question him when he is wrong? bc all humans have thought wrong at least once. A president is limited with power meaning, that he can't create laws because of personal reasons. Like "make everyone bow down when they see my picture like in North Korea." Every president set aside their own personal grief or choices to lead their country, because they know that sometimes they are wrong. They except the limitations on what they can and cannot do. BASICALLY what Spider-Man said. "that he said that you are always right when you are wrong. That makes someone dangerous"
+Ian Kirkpatrick yeah. they both are to blame. There are always two sides of the story. and not everyone is perfect. If I was one of the superhero I would've made a new idea. Where it's 50/50. like the government can regulate who is dispatched, the mission and my powers. But no telling my identity and whenever during the mission that there Is something that we gotta do. lets say ultron re created. Than we have our own will to fight back. Because yeah people may die bc of falling rocks. but would you rather loose hundreds of lives or the emote planet.
Fucking exactly!
Nah I got to say I agree with Cap through the whole movie.
I was very torn but I think overall I was/am team Captain America
I don't think Captain America ever saw what happened to Rhody, so cap had no idea that he was hurt.
Bucky was tortured and brainwashed by HYDRA. He's another victim and Steve sees that. Should we punish people for committing crimes against their will?
+EvanSol919 Agree, also I think cap's point was pretty clear in his love letter to Tony at the end when he says "My trust is in individuals", he is not going to allow some organization to have all the power over the actions of super people, and besides, these super humans are not weapons, they still have rights and should be free.... That being said also see Tony's side, it is scary to have people like this out there, they can be good or bad, just as organizations can be good or bad, so it is really about having trust in individuals wanting to do the right thing vs trust in powerful organizations wanting to do the right thing.
+EvanSol919 What I took away from this is a direct correlation with The Sokovia Accords. An individual loses their agency and ability to choose once they become a governed soldier, and Bucky's actions embody The Sokovia Accords taken to the nth degree.
The film poses this as a very interesting dilemma concerning soldier accountability. Do you blame the individual for committing the act, or is it not their fault, because they were ordered to do it?
jackthecb I like that, there is definitely something like that going on, you are right, in a way the actions of the winter soldier is the perfect example of everything that can go wrong with having an organization in charge.
Slightly different from soldiers in our real world because of the mind control aspect, but still, it is a strong commentary on that.
Martin Elizalde Lecuona
Haha yes it is filtered through the Sci-Fi lense of mind control, but I very much believe it is at least a reflection of Steve's POV. For instance, in The Winter Soldier he was irked that Black Widow and Nick Fury didn't follow protocol aboard the ship, yet by going on their individual instincts instead of orders, they unearthed Project Insight's true intentions.
Steve's experience of government agencies is murky at best, and his distrust in the modern world only solidifies his belief that answering to organisations, who themselves have agendas of their own, reduces the individual's ability to choose.
Again, whether they choose correctly or not is debatable, but from his perspective following these orders blindly is no different from being mind controlled.
Especially considering the goverments track record for lieing. The un sactioned by NATO to continually bomb innocents in libya and iraq. I mean putting absloute power in the goverments hand is far worse than someone whos a hero with no agenda. People are saving people for the sake of saving and we know america has been completely been bought. However the fact that captian america knew makes him more of a dick and a characrer flaw. If tony is just as much your brother than i mean he has a right to know but being in his shoes? How do you tell him? Like my best friend killed your parents but it wasnt really his fault? But i get it bucky is honestly his only link to the past. Like if my brother killed my best friends parents? Um i probably wouldnt tell him either like its not my place to tell... He was in an impossible decision...
I've never seen someone so wrong about movie character in my life. wow, get a grip.
"why do i think everyone forgives captain america? well i think he's awfully good looking" okay bye grace... did you watch the movie at all i think you need to give it a rewatch.
Batman and Superman's weakness - Martha
Captain Americas weakness- Bucky
yea caps gay
+Joey W.
So glad someone else picked up on that other than me!
+Joey W. Batman V Superman more more weaknesses than just Martha
Grace, when you started the vid by going in on Cap, I almost clicked off. Bucky and Cap are bffs. Quote: "When I had nothing I still had Bucky" but he lost Bucky during their mission and as a result, Hydra was able to make him into killing machine. Cap feels extremely guilty for what happened to him. Cap had a chance to save Bucky and he took it. Wouldn't you? It's not like Bucky was in the wrong either, he was brainwashed and framed. Cap was doing the right thing by saving him. If you ask me, Tony was more into his feelings. He let his guilt sway him into signing the Sokovia accords. He knew Bucky was brainwashed but he still tried to kill him. He hit Falcon when Falcon just dodged Vision's blast. What if that blast hit Falcon? He doesn't have a suit of armour, I'm pretty sure he would have died. Also think of it like this. By allowing the involvement of the GOV in Avenger matters, more innocent people were put in harm's way. The UN bombing, the soldiers trying to apprehend Bucky, Zemo infiltrating GOV facility and brainwashing Bucky. Those things wouldn't have happened if they handled it themselves. You can't just criticize Cap for protecting Bucky, yes he was his feelings, yes he kept the 1991 assassination from Tony (which he later admitted he was wrong and apologized for), but Tony is no exception. He was in his feelings too. That's why he signed the Sokovia Accords, that's why he tried to kill Bucky.
Also Tony isn't a selfish person? hahahahahaahaha building ULTRON in secret?! Creating Vision without fully understanding the Mind Stone (which already made one rogue AI) No one was praising Tony because he was so reckless in A2. He put them in that mess.
+Liek Vun Sir, a better opinion with facts and logical reasoning cannot be made... everyone of your arguments was on point. Great job!!!
we clearly saw two different films
I have to admit, I am not a fan of this review. I think you may have skipped over a few key things here that give Cap more credit. 1st off you didn't touch on the fact that Bucky and many other agents would have been killed had Cap not intervened. Sharon specifically comes up to him as and says their order are to shoot on sight, meaning no capture, just kill. So would you have been satisfied if Cap didn't get involved and they killed his best friend for what turned out to be no reason? Secondly you said Tony gives, yes he gives out of his abundance, Cap doesn't have anything to give except his life and his loyalty to those he feels has earned it and Bucky has especially since he's been the victim this whole time. Thirdly I think you're coming at it from Tony's perspective which is fine but you have to remember Tony was emotionally compromised the entire time. Everything he did was because he was emotionally unstable. Cap was the only one seeing clear throughout this entire thing. He wanted to protect Bucky so that he'd get to see a fair trial, he didn't want to sign the accords because he's afraid of being a puppet again, which historically happens to people like the Avengers time and time again. Fourthly about that scene toward the end Cap clearly says "I didn't know it was him" he did know it was Hydra and he held that from Tony because at time he probably figured what good would it do him telling him his parents were killed by an agency we already beat. It's done, Hydra is over what would Tony have to gain from knowing that? And about Black Widow, why is no one bringing up the fact that Bucky was Hydra's toy, so these are deep cover GRU agents working their own Hydra agenda, how would Black Widow have known that? Also about him dropping the shield, at that point what would you expect him to do run back to Tony and say "I'm Sorry" no he just tried to kill his friend for no other reason than him being a pawn in Hydra's scheme that's like blaming the knife of a killer instead of the killer himself. I get that's what a lot of people would do, and people often let their emotions get in the way of their reason and that's exactly why I said Tony was emotionally unstable. Cap dropped the shield to end it, not to choose Bucky over Tony, he didn't want to fight anymore, he didn't want to argue. He just wanted it to be over and I don't blame him. One more thing you have things backwards Tony never liked Cap because Howard kept putting Cap on this pedestal that Tony felt he could never reach, Tony resents Cap and he says so in the movie. Tony is always looking for a flaw in Steve so that he can feel better about himself, you can tell that in Avengers 1 and 2 and here in Civil War.
This is why you dont review movies lmao
So Falcon and Bucky are bros now, huh.
Loving their banter during the Spiderman fight.
+sandra stevanovic And that look they gave Cap after the kiss was hilarious! :D
+Ozzie Ash "My Nigga"
Didn't Cap say "I knew, but I didn't know it was him."? I thought that meant he knew that somebody at Hydra killed his parents, even maybe ONE of the winter soldiers, but didn't know it was Bucky.
+DekonR Exactly
+DekonR He then said that he knew. That first answer was just him being caught off guard by what had just been revealed and desperately trying to cover up for what he didn't want to face.
+DekonR That's exactly what I thought - as Cap never even knew of the existence of the other 5 Winter Soldiers until late in Civil War, and he did know that Bucky had been one of Hydras main assassins at the time the Starks were killed he must have at the very least strongly suspected that Barnes could have been killer - but from facts we're shown in the films I can't see how it's possible Cap could actually known for sure until they all saw the video in the bunker.
With all due respect Grace I don't think that comparing this film to BvS is in anyway wrong or unwarranted. You've got two films coming out in the same couple months centring around two or more heroes with tension brewing between them, manipulated by a villain who greatly departs his comic book iteration into fighting. Both have commentary about on power, both try raise interesting questions. Regardless of your or anyone else opinion on the movie, to denounce comparison as hater agenda feels wrong and snuffing out interesting debate.
+Jack Sheehan plus in both films one of the major twists are about someone's mom (Martha and Bucky killing Stark's mom)
+reagmaster12 lucky for marvel it's okay to let tony have daddy and mummy issue haha
+reagmaster12 and them being clearly friends again with that letter cap wrote to him ( which i serious hate)
+Samuel Choong I was told Thanos is the father of both Cap and Iron Man in the film?
A New Challenger are u sure... i tot darkseid might just do a crossover and be their parents haha
I think you are seriously nit picking this movie and you are not reading between the lines for these characters! 1 cap protects bucky because he is the biggest victim of hydra and Tony refuses to see that! 2 cap was flying away in the quin jet when war machine was shot down he probably had no idea what happen to him. I have literally wrote a paragraph and only 8 minutes into the video because your comments are totally irrational
Every criticism you level at Civil War is as irrational as your every defense of Batman V Superman.
"The writing is choppy" "This team has communication issues"
But she says BVS is perfect...
She's such a DC apologist
Caps love for Bucky is not beyond reason..
his best friend (who he watched die in his mind) was all of a sudden alive, being mind controlled and tortured..
of course the most caring avenger is going to do what he can to protect his friend.. Cap knows Bucky wasn't himself and was controlled by Hydra
+Jason Whisman Great Point... Also they both are around the same age. Both are over one hundred and were best friends as kids... I get it.
+Jason Whisman i don't think this woman has ever had a best friend lol
He stands by Bucky because Bucky always stood by him, and he knows that he was brain washed, tortured, and was not in control when they used him. He was a POW!!
Grace, I think the tossing of the shield was Steve's way of telling Tony, "Here, have the shield. Without it, I'm still Captain America." As in, he's always embodied everything Captain America has been to the people: justice, honesty (though you seriously question it, rightfully), and bravery. He doesn't need the shield to do good.
Captain America DIDN'T even KNOW about WAR-MACHINE!! He wasn't even there! And Iron-Man was going to let his Team mates ROT in a underwater prison!!
True. Her review is not good at all hence the amount of dislikes.
You'll never see Emergency Awsome's dislikes this bad, because he does better movie and TV show reviews..
True. Her review is not good at all hence the amount of dislikes.
You'll never see Emergency Awsome's dislikes this bad, because he does better movie and TV show reviews..
+paranormalgangsta yeah, you mean Wanda who could control people, and brainwashed Hulk before. And made Tony see that vision that made him build Ultron. LOL They are criminals. they knew what they were doing. They weren't saving people they were hurting them. Cap stole a car from some random guy. They fought german police and weren't holding back. Tony was given 36 hours to arrest them or Ross would have send his task force with kill orders - normal people. Cap would have had to fight against them...
+NewDrew2 yeah but emergency awesome almost never talks about the bad parts of tc shows or movies.
+YukiMiaki90 you're wrong about bucky and Captain not holding back against the German police.
After all the sacrifices Cap has made for the world, I think you are judging him too harshly. Cap lost everything from his past, even agent Carter. Bucky is the only thing he has left in the world to connect him to the world he lost when he sacrificed himself in the first movie. His selfishness in protecting his friend only shows how human the character of captain america is
Your right
No way, #TeamCap all the way. There was no character assassination for me with this movie.
+Teyla Talks IMO the film was almost totally pro-Cap - any 'character assassination' was all down to Grace.
Hes definitely selfish and hypocritical it's ok I know your sad hes not as perfect as you wanted him to be
Iron Man fan girl!
You just lost your comic cred.
Captain America was the only character who was focused on justice.
Fail on you Grace.
Ultron was an extremely selfish creation on Tony's part and everything he does for the greater good is out of guilt not heroism. Captain America would die, without even thinking about it, if it meant saving the lives of others. His loyalty to Bucky is based on the fact that when he felt alone in the world, Bucky was there for him, and he is simply repaying that debt. I think you are wrong in saying that he is selfish, especially because at the end of the movie, even though he is a wanted fugitive, he still returns and busts out every imprisoned hero that fought by his side in the airport battle. Cap isn't selfish, he is just extremely loyal to those who stick by him beyond the political spectrum.
Shoddy writing? This coming from someone who gave BVS a rave review? The writing in Civil War was leagues beyond that cluster fuck of amalgamated, squished together storylines that is Batman vs Superman.
She's obviously paid by DC or is extremely bias towards them. Civil War was cleary better written than BvS.
walter alfaro Indeed she is. DC sent reviewers out a nice little box of goodies where as Marvel didn't and she has the gaul to insinuate that Marvel is paying off critics to pan BvS? She's also very butt-hurt because she did originally work for Marvel until they fired her. She's very anti-marvel and pro-DC. Honestly, I don't know how anyone other than DC Fanboys can take her serious. LOL
+walter alfaro She's got to be, because she said BVS is as close to a perfect movie as there can be... And we all know the shoddy there was all over the place.
Pax E Well that explains a lot. I'm just a comic movie fan, I have no bias. I just enjoy watching great movies. What I don't enjoy, is critics like grace trying to serve me a plate of bs sprinkled with sugar. I want honesty, is that to much to ask? It's quite funny at times I will admit. She'll complain about something so small like Rhodes possibly walking again, but she never mentioned the end of BvS going from funeral (Day) to prison (night) back to funeral. That was perfect?
Cela Cho You can clearly see what she's doing. I guess that's part of what keeps in her employed tho. People either need to love or hate you, there's no in between.
Ah, so Civil War had a shoddy writting, but BvS was a masterpiece?
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Try harder, Grace. You're not pushing it hard enough.
+Doutsoldome Yeah, clearly no bias here, none whatsoever.........
How am I supposed to take this seriously when she compared Synder to Kubrick...
What intrigued me most about this film was, that in principle i'm Team Ironman. I too think the watchers must be watched, responsibility has to be taken. BUT given the circumstances in the MCU i'd have to go with Team Cap.
1. The whole New York disaster happened because official institutions wanted to play with alien tech they didn't understand and couldn't handle - oh, and they wanted to nuke NY!!! The Avengers didn't cause the harm, they merely prevented worse from happening (millions dead, the world under Loki's control?)
2. The whole Washington disaster happened, because an official institution was infiltrated and wanted to control too much. Cap, Falcon and Widow didn't cause the mess, they only prevented worse from happening (millions dead, the world in the hands of Hydra?)
3. The whole Sokovia disaster happened, because of Tony's overgrown ego. HE created Ultron against all advise and because he thought he could handle it all by himself. Ok, Hydra also played a big role in this, but the Avengers as a group didn't cause the mess, they simply prevented worse from happening (billions dead, the world under the control of Ultron?).
Now official institutions with the support of Tony Stark try to blame their failings on the Avengers and want to take control of them?! Honestly, given the MCU history that sounds like a massively bad idea!!!
I think Cap dropping his shield wasn't a diss, but an apology and his agreement that he knew he was at least partly wrong.
Yes it totally was that, Grace just trashed on and hated everything Cap did cause she's team iron man
+Jack Hudson Actually I think some her complaints were right, but I think that the movie did it on purpose. From Avengers 2, it was shown that Captain America's biggest fear is not being able to fight. Peace makes him useless. He was bullied as a kid, and grew up to bully the bullies. And not having a battle to fight scared him. And not getting to pick the fights is just as scary for him.
+Jason Bell no that's not caps personality at all, he is the living, breathing symbol of freedom and liberty and he fights for justice. He doesn't fear not fighting, if he wasn't fighting that would mean everything in the world is going great and he would be totally satisfied with that. Besides in this world there will always be something to fight
+Jason Bell and Cap never picks a fight. I'm not sure if you know what "picking a fight" means but it means instigating and creating the fight. Cap isn't like that, Tony is however. Steve is noble and has respect, he will fight the people picking the fights so you don't know what you're talking about
+Jack Hudson I meant choosing who to fight, not instigating a fight. And Cap is not a living embodiment of freedom. He's a good guy, who's good in a fight and isn't sure what else he's good at.
So weirdly positive for bvs so weirdly negative and nitpicky for Captain America. Wtf lol
Funnily enough, I saw it exactly the opposite way to you. Bucky didn't kill Tony's parents, Hydra did. For someone who got rich selling weapons and then being appalled by how those weapons were used, you'd have thought he would have understood the difference between the gun and the person who pulls the trigger. And Capt may have "broken the law", but at all times he maintained the moral high-ground - he was right throughout, Bucky (the man) was innocent, and it was shown that it was Zemo who was the real villain. If anything, I saw it ending up as a Tony Stark character assassination. Then at at the end Cap righted the wrong of the UN/Sokovia-Accords by freeing the imprisoned avengers. Even the mother in the corridor was wrong - in New York, and then again in Sokovia, the Avengers saved the world from the true bad guys. Blaming them for collateral damage was clearly wrong, yet we're asked to believe that Tony Stark would fall for such a misguided judgement.
+Michael V The real problem is keeping the information from Tony. That was unforgivable. And then to make Tony feel like crap for a perfectly normal emotional response was also horrible.
I agree 100 %
+James Liams I understand that, but I am still left thinking that Tony was in the wrong and Captain was right, both then and throughout the whole movie.
+Michael V Funnily, hahahaha!!!
+Michael V My thoughts entirely , well said
In my opinion this video is not only Anti-Cap but also Anti-Marvel Studios if you compare it to her X-Men Apocalypse spoiler review and Batman V Superman spoiler review. I mean in this video she consistently points out negatives and has an entire section where she pointed out how the movie could have been better.
I completely agree with you. She may like other companies better than Marvel Studios but she should at least review the movies fairly.
True. You can't say you like a movie when you always point out the negatives and only mention obvious positives.
I guess some people hate so much,that's all they see negativity,sad. People need to grow up. It's just a movie not life. *SAD*
+broodon because maybe bvs and x-men was a better movie than this disney crap,
Bo Frye whatever
7:21 It's possible Cap didn't know about what happened to Rhodey
+Niall murray No it's impossible that he would know
+1D4ever yea, if for nothing else, the fact that theres no way cap would have known brings this review down a notch. This review draws the wrong conclusions based on misinterpretation of events
Grace. Cap dropped the Shield to show remorse to Tony for what had happened. Not because he was disrespecting Howard's legacy!
Tony said you don't deserve that Shield so he left it behind as a sign of respect for his feelings.
+Base DaKID Too obvious to even explain
1D4ever well Grace didn't seem to get it...
THANK YOU!
Grace, either you didn't watch the movie or you fell asleep through some of it which honestly I don't know how that's possibly, but I completely and utterly disagree with almost everything that you said.
In my opinion. Everything about this movie was perfect. It's a 10 across the board. Just like The Winter soldier.
+will sommevil Yup, she basically blew the nitpicks out of proportion. Mole hills into mountains..
Oh, one more thing. Steve didn't ask about Rhodie because he didn't see what happened.
Grace for god's sake stop blaming the heroes for the mess their enemies make.
Besides Wanda saved at least 50 people when she accidentally killed 12. Why can't you see that?
but isn't that what u fight to stop...imagine telling a family "your son had to die for these other people to live" a great example is Watchmen they were gonna kill a million people...to save 7 billion that's still really fucked up
Lil Simpson100 it isnt. there is no way to stop EVERYONE from dying. Especially not with the government controlling your actions.
cullen bloodstone It doesn't make it right ESPECIALLY when you're the cause
Lil Simpson100 But heroes aren't the cause at all. I feel like I'm talking to a tree.
At least we know Iron Man would fuck Captain America up one on one cause let's face it...the only reason Cap lived was because he had Bucky
Captain didn't know about Roady. And I think the end fight with cap fighting stark, was cap fighting not just for Bucky, but for Tony too. Trying to save Tony from himself, coz he was consumed utterly by vengeance; if I was Tony then, I'd have done anything to kill Bucky, whether or not Bucky was in control of himself, and for sure I'd have gone into some kinda breakdown afterwards.
i dont think we watched the same movie lol
+Definitive Strike Ya i dont think she knows this is a comic book movie,,Superheroes dont usually get their necks broken....and does she not understand that BlackWIdow is a double agent?
+tubee103 she apparently doesn't ,she doesn't understand that eventually iron man sees what happens when you give your power to the state,the state is there to absorb and misuse power ... expecially power thatis given and not earned
***** I loved the movie to and i see some of its problems but I wouldnt take issue with the heroes not breaking their necks in the fights,their comic book heroes for god sakes,and its clearly mentioned that black widow is a double agent.she has been thru all the films.
Have you seen the same movie 95% of us seen!
your review of the movie is annoyingly picky it seems like you didn't enjoy the movie at all you just looked for miniscule things that were wrong with it. I watch movies to enjoy them and I thought this movie was amazing found nothing wrong with it at all and I can't believe your calling cap a bad guy
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this way… She seems to be annoyingly nitpicky…a lot of her criticisms I found myself asking in response, "why would anyone care abt that? Why ask that?" more times than I care to admit.
Yeah I thought this would be a review like this. Pretty much the reason I don't follow this channel anymore. The reason that Cap did what he did is loyalty and liberty, no better reasons than that. Bucky is and was his life long friend who has been mindraped and used as a weapon for years and years. If you are a true friend you do anything you can to help your friend, that is real friendship. The whole anti-accords stance is because of the fear that governments will miss use the Avengers, pretty good reason to me. This "review"feels like massive nitpicking, but hey that's just my opinion. Think Grace is still abit sore about the whole BvS drama. But what the hell do I know.
Agreed. I unsubscribed too because this channel feels more like it tries to go against popular opinion. anything that us universally praised is either deemed mediocre or, at best, decent to Grace. Anything that is panned/disliked is praised by her, like BvS and the Ghostbusters trailer.
+Miguel Estevez Cap has misused the Avengers, hurt his friends and made them outlaw. That is the worst. Bucky Had really killed people for 70 years for Hydra, brainwashed or not, doesn't matter. it's naive to think that he is completely innocent. He doesn't even think he's innocent himself. Most real terrorists in the world are ideologically brainwashed or blackmailed or raised since young age to fight, doesn't mean they are innocent
Had Cap listened to people and Tony and signed the accords none of it would have happened. Bucky was about to be sent to mental hospital before he was set free by Zemo. Which is not that different from being frozen on Wakanda. Cap achieved nothing but fell into every trap set by Zemo, and made the avengers into criminals.
They wouldn't even avenge anymore.
Tony would be doing all avenging with Peter from now on) You people are seriously brainwashed by your Cap's propaganda
+YukiMiaki90 Get your point, but it's not like Cap thinks Bucky didn't do anything bad or something. He knows what he has done over the years. But he also knows he was being used and controled. Yes he killed alot of people, but he was being brainwashed. Steve sees the difference and tries to get his old friend back from the dark. Cap did not misuse the Avengers, they chose to follow cap for their own reasons, big difference.
When did Cap misuse the Avengers? When he gave orders in NYC? When he tried to stop Ultron? (A problem, by the way, was was entirely the fault of Tony and Bruce... but mostly Tony.) When he found out about five super-assasins and recruited heroes to stop them? I don't give a crap if Cap broke the law. Sometimes laws need to be broken, almost every comic hero ever agrees that the law isn't infallible, and that exceptions need to be made. Also, I would like to add that since when is being an outlaw grounds to dismiss somebody's morality? Luke Skywalker was an outlaw, as were all of his associates. Katniss Everdeen was an outlaw. Cap was simply saying, "Hey, this is a law that is not only stupid... it's going to get innocent people killed. More so than if the law wasn't in place." I also think that the "brainwashed" thing needs to be taken into account. Bucky was acting under EXTREME duress AT BEST. He was being TORTURED AND LITERALLY HAD HIS BRAIN CHEMISTRY CHANGED. He DID NOT HAVE FREE WILL. The other brainwashing that you're referring to is PROPOGANDA. Bucky didn't kill because he believed in his cause, he was being controlled after his free will had been smothered beyond ALL reason. He didn't deserve the "shoot on sight" order, and Cap was right to intervene.
The dynamic between Cap, Falcon and Bucky was great!!
cap is doing everything to save his best friend and the ONLY person in the world that is a link to his old life... he is 95 yrs old and there is one person that he has that link with! how the fuck does nobody understand that?
what do you mean cap takes and don't give back? he gave his life for his country, that IS the ultimate sacrifice and anyone that can say he's selfish is being ignorant
+Dale Mayotte He actually had 2. Peggy and Bucky. And it is so sad now that Peggy died and now he only has one person linked to his old life and he's going to be frozen in ice
+Dale Mayotte I understood that in the previous film. I understood that from the trailers for this film. I concur, after watching the film what about this does no one understand?
Sadly, we don't live in a world that believes in that kind of loyalty anymore or any kind really & that is the real tragedy.
I was so scared Black Widow is going to kill spiderman ...
lol
Haha, if they had sex but that's just weird.
+um AppaL what the fuck
+Lucas Pigliavento black widows consume their mates
um AppaL lol, true. ...
The War Machine suit didn't deploy a parachute because Vision's beam took out the power source of the suit, so it couldn't deploy
+TrentGgrims They need to get a manual pull lever on that thing then!
+Beyond The Trailer I agree haha, but I'm sure the shock of him free falling would have stopped him from deploying one anyways.
+TrentGgrims - speaking of shock.... I'm sure he passed out half way down. His eyes seemed to roll back a bit.
+TrentGgrims What they need is a chute that opens with an altimeter that deploys at a certain height after free falling powerless. A manual release wouldn't be any help if you're unconscious. Like Tony was when he fell back to earth and the Hulk had to catch him.
Grace you know I love but Captain America wasn't the true focus of this movie, Steve Rodgers was. Everytime he's with Bucky he's that little sick kid from Brooklyn. Can you imagine saying something that will get the only friend you had, before you became famous, killed?!!? I think the point is there is no easy answer for some issue and sometimes family fights. However, forgiveness should be give or you will make yourself ill.
Lol something tells me that you haven't ever had a best friend. And that you have a short attention span
You went into the movie biased right? Missing the point so horribly makes me wonder whether you comprehend stories at all!!
I'm confused about your analysis of the capt. People forgave him because he was good looking? I don't even understand why people think the Capt has done anything wrong.
Also, when the Capt threw down his shield, I thought it was out of either respect or guilt, not some sort of unhealthy dedication to Bucky.
The whole scene when Tony found about Bucky and his parents were heartbreaking! From the moment when Tony was like ''I recognise that road...''
remember when Tony was speaking at MIT? he was using a technology that he was working on to erase traumatic memories. in the mid credit scene Winter Soldier says he needs to be frozen until they get what hydra put in his head. ANYONE ELSE MAKE THAT CONNECTION???!?
Interesting
+Jose Angel Solorzano It wasn't to erase traumatic memories, it was to be able relive and conquer them as a sort of therapy. He didn't say anything about erasing them.
+gamiensrule same concept
+Jose Angel Solorzano a traumatic event is not the same thing as years of brainwashing
+Jose Angel Solorzano Holy crap, your'e right.
cap didnt even know war machine was shot down wtf lady
PRAISES DUE! I think the problems were so small they barely effected my experience. there was a small lull between the first and second fight scene but I still think overall the script was amazingly written and spider-man totally turns that lull into OMG!! I thought Zemo was exactly all this film needed, anything more and it would have taken away from tony vs cap and they would have had to come together instead of tear each other apart ...and to me this is tied all time with the dark knight... This movie is nothing short of unbelievable... I know we are saturated with comic movies right now but movies executed this well don't come around often...
Indeed.
👊
Best story-vehicle, ever.
YES!!
What was Wanda suppose to do, lay in her bed and weep for four seasons like Bella when Edward broke up with her
Grace obviously you missed the short flirt action between Sharon Carter and Steve Rogers when they were standing next to the elevator
And how the hell is Captain America selfish, he gave his life without hesitation to save the world in 1945.
+Barry Jordan Like I have said many times. Steve has done sooo much for America, + the world and he has never asked for ANYTHING in return!You would think they would respect him enough to listen to him and help him by letting Bucky off the hook (Even though the Hydra brainwashing and Bucky is a victim!).Plus the only Avenger to cause any threats is Tony Stark! With creating Ultron behind everyone except Banner's back!Plus I understand Tony being upset at his parents being murdered, but when most people have that tragity happen to them they don't go insane, using every weapon they have or can get their hand on and try to kill kil kil! Tony needs help, he needs to be locked up and be put on meds! He snapped, what if he killed Steve and Bucky? He would be a murder! He went to where they were and he was loaded with weapons. Steve and Bucky would not of killed Tony, they faught back and tried to disable his suit (weapons)!
+Cj La Barge I couldn't have said it better. Tony has tried to ruin the world 2 times over, and I love Iron Man but look at the stats
+Cj La Barge and how can you defend Tony if he killed Steve and Bucky? killing Steve is a righteous murder?
Barry Jordan I understand Tony trying to create "The Ultron program" He wanted peace and a "suit of armor around the world"
But he should of not used Loki's staff. Plus not telling Thor and the others (Except Banner) was just stupid. Thor knows the kinds of power through out the 9 relms. & he did not even know what power source Loki's staff was and how it worked.
Put Wanda did make Tony act out of fear. She said she knew it would consume him, make him act.
But she and Pietro also did not have all the information. They thought Tony killed their parents. If they had known the truth that Stain (Iron-Monger and partners with Tony and even Howard Stark) was dealing/selling weapons to terrorists under the table, then she and Pietro would of never been against Tony, and the rest of the Avengers!
So I understand all our characters, but Tony can not go and kill Bucky and/or Steve because Brainwashed Bucky killed his parents..... I understand him being upset but Tony knew what Hydra did to Bucky.... But in the world a person can not go after and kill the person (brainwashed or not brainwashed) without them being arrested and labled a murderer.
Cj La Barge here's the issue no one has caught yet. Tony didn't just make Ultron, the mind some made him do it. And the mind stone finished what they were starting. Someone is def playing games and trying to eliminate the Avengers
You missed the whole point of the Bucky-Steve dynamic. It's NOT blind loyalty. It's Captain America protecting the "little guy," it's him defending the VICTIM against the WORLD if he has to. Winter Soldier = victim. Tony & Black Panther = VENGEANCE. You expect Captain America to let Tony kill Bucky in COLD BLOOD? Captain America admits he made a mistake, but it was to stop Bucky from getting murdered in cold blood, either by Tony, Panther, CIA other Government special forces. Shoot on sight was what ALL that was waiting for Bucky without Steve's help...
You missed the point of Captain America dropping the shield as well. It was in honour/respect/friendship to Tony Stark AND his father. Tony Stark DEMANDED Steve to stop using the shield for little more reason than just to throw a tantrum. Why are you not on Tony's case for such a selfish and useless request in the first place..? As Tony's FRIEND, Steve gave back the shield DESPITE it having more MEANING AND VALUE to him THAN it ever did to Tony. It's pretty obvious that was a sign of his friendship to Tony regardless of how bitter Tony and that request was. Why are you hating on Captain America again?
+WakingDreamer01 Exactly Cap is the only on in the movie who isn't trying to kill someone. He is trying to defend his best friend from being murdered.
Um were we watching the same movie? Tony messes up so much, and even gets no shit when cap gets so much for one little mistake. And 85% of what happened was unfair towards cap I felt so bad for him, especially since this is his movie maybe even the last cap movie and focused on others so much.
+HaikyuuTrash you call opposing 117 nations and keeping the murder of tony's parents a secret while at the same time being so hypocritical as to lecture tony about keeping secrets and also living on tony's dime "one little mistake"?
but i agree that the cap slander was a bit too much, and i don't even like cap lmao jesus
you totally whiffed on this review. it's very iron man biased/anti captain america, and totally off base to the truth.
It's Bucky. Steve is a man out of time, he's got no one and all he knows is to do what he does best. Put yourself in Steve's shoes. His friend is the only thing left in his world. I think he's allowed to be selfish every now and then. Not saying that what he did was justified, but that only makes him more interesting because he's not perfect either. And his friend was brainwashed by an organization that tried to take over the world. Mr. Stark ain't perfect either, he creates his own demons and despite what you say, he's doing this because he's guilty and knows it. He's just as selfish as you claim Steve is. Also he very irresponsible for recruiting a 15 year old teenager to war despite being super-powered.
Tonys decision throughout the franchise has mostly been selfish. Its part of his character. If he had just left it at signing the accords, it would have been another story. Instead, he secretly grounded Scarlet Witch without telling her and claims its for her protection and I don't trust her powers, comes to Peter Parker to recruit him through blackmail by threatening to expose his secret and when he finds out about what Bucky did to his parents, he knowingly wanted revenge even with the knowledge that Bucky was brainwashed through his reasoning that someone had to pay. Alot of people are saying it doesn't matter if Bucky was brainwashed or knew what he was doing, he did it so he should have died. So anyone who gets taken, tortured and brainwashed should not be sympathized with but put down cause its not complicated and emotionally charged reasoning is the most logical and justified thing to do.
+thuongn85 Agreed on all counts - what this film showed me is that Stark is egotistical, selfish, pig-headed man with serious anger management issues and few redeeming features. Holding Wanda captive by force against her will (that's seriously illegal, even the cops can't do that for no reason and Stark sure isn't a cop) blackmailing a decent and inexperienced teenage kid to fight in a dangerous 'war' against seriously powerful meta-humans and then trying to murder a man who he himself had described as a 'Manchurian candidate' minutes earlier are not charactersitics I'd associate with any morally upright person. Quite the revers in fact.
Grace you are clearly blinded by your love for Tony. I am not saying keeping away that truth from Tony was the best move by cap but it was understandable. Cap discovered that Bucky was framed and there were no way for him to convince people that Bucky wasn't . So yes he did broke the law because he couldn't do otherwise and went after the true villain...? Also He forgave Bucky because he Knew Bucky was brainwashed by Hydra. That's why he fought against Tony at the end.Emotion Got the best of Tony but Cap has a clear head.Cap is not an hypocrite .
I agree about the lack of development of the script in some part but it was, however ,well balanced out and coherent.If the story is not as tight as the one in the winter soldier and the villain development kind of weak ,the movie remains a treat and even a blast. To me,it is clearly one of the top 3 in the marvel cinematic universe to date. It was awesome!
+herautdeDieu You are so right! Grace has a bizarre view of these movies. I love that she puts great work into her RUclips Channel, but her review after review is godly awfull. I haven't seen a view of hers that I agreed with yet. Her reasoning and connectivity towards characters is so left field.
+Vocal Thought Yes these review are bizarro reviews. They are like what movie did you watch?! When she states how much Cap hates Tony it clears she missed the whole point. Captain America was trying to save Bucky from being killed, The were not trying to arrest him they wanted to kill him. Easily a top 2 Marvel film.
+herautdeDieu She's got a point though. Put yourself in Tony's shoes... How would you feel if your "friend" kept something like this from you. I think Tony was under the most stress of them all. He really wasn't doing it because of "ego" or to incite conflict with cap. In the beginning of the latter half, he also wasn't trying to bring bucky in, but trying to help him. All along Tony was trying to protect Cap from Ross and keep the team together, which makes it all the more painful to learn that the friend you're fighting for and trying to protect has kept such info from you. He understands that the world is changing and is doing what he can to move along with it. But you are right, however, in saying that Tony was driven by rage at the end... but like I said, who wouldn't be. It's not love for Tony, but rather respect for the character. I'm happy Cap AND bucky won in the end, because Tony really would've taken that kill shot and taken cap out. To be honest tough, I would've enjoyed a bit more of iron man "beating his ass" for refusing to at least try to work out a deal. The Russo brothers did no honor to the comics in that last fight scene. Hand-to-hand combat, no flight, but suit on, and iron man always wins. Only way cap wins is by disabling the suit, AND THEN beating him. I guess it's the fanboy in me, but I really wanted to see a more elaborate way to take the suit down, and been a bit more angry at Tony for his emotional recklessness. Unfortunately he barely did anything worth reproach and in the end got taken down by a fall(throw) that pales in comparison to others he's taken in previous movies. Best super hero movie I've seen, but at the expense of one of my favorite characters.
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For an emotional Standpoint you can't really reproach anything to tony ,At least In captain America Civil War.I could have easily acted the same.I understand where Tony comes from and it moves me as well .
However My point is about Cap being an hypocrite which he isn't.Clearly Bucky was framed without him being able to legally prove it and Cap discovered it ahead of time .This is why he couldn't sign the Sokovia accords and need "to betray" his friends.
One thing I agree with you is that Cap is way overpowered In The MCU especially with the Russo brothers take on his character.I agree that Cap can handle himself against Iron man to some extend but he cannot really overcome it the way he did with its bare arms only even after a difficult fight .I guess tony was too emotional and the Russo brothers set the fight in a close room to give some edge to cap and Bucky.Now I won't complain too much as the MCU Cap is probably my favourite representation of his character.
Here a clear distinction to a person having intelligence and a person having wisdom. Cap clearly is the wisest of the two, having the better judgement in all regard. Cap saw the problem with signing the papers, so the issue with Bucky all of a sudden coming out of hiding, and saw the judgement in not telling Tony. This wasn't about Cap being friends with Bucky, more than it was about Cap knowing who Bucky is and isn't. Tony was clearly going off of his feelings guilt to sign those papers and going of his feelings of anger to fight Bucky and Tony. The clear sum up of everything was Black Panther! BP had the greatest Character Development, showing that he would be no better than Zemo if he was to kill someone due to him loosing someone he loved. It makes the Hero no different than the Villain. I think that was the message they were trying to deliver. Overall, Cap has the Wisdom, Tony has the Smarts.
Oh as far as the fight goes... Tony can do more than Cap can, but he can't do better that what Cap can do. Both of them were pulling punches with each and clearly they both simply wanted to subdue the other, not kill them. What got Tony off track was when he thought Cap would try to kill him, which left him open for the final strike. Also keep in mind that although Cap get hit hard a lot, he has high endurance and a higher recovery speed, due to his super solider serum.
I don't get it...BvS was reviewed as being nearly perfect from Grace's point of view. Although she positively reviewed Civil War, there was hardly anything she didn't have a criticism for...noting was just good, it was all "good, but..."I can't comprehend it! I mean, you're the first reviewer that noticed Vision's Mind Stone turning colours when Wanda forced him to phase, but everything else seemingly flies over your radar!Any and all of your criticisms could easily be explained in the movie or by something referenced in a different MCU film.I mean, how should Black Widow know anything about the KGB when it's established in Winter Soldier that she was born in 1984? I could go on about any and all criticisms, but I'd never be able to stop typing!
Did this chick even watch the movie? She's the Forest Gump of movie reviews. She missed so many points. I think she has selective hearing and a problem with short term memory. She might have gone into this wanting to not like it and was disappointed.
+Bearded Vulture Photography not at all, she's just a salty butthurt that Civil War took the same content that BVS did and did it better. Grace Randolph isn't exactly unbiased given her VERY public firing from Marvel itself...
After she turned on Black Panther and then had the gall to get all smug with him, I was disappointed that he didn't take her down himself right then and there.
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+Prince Windsor I think he means widow
cuz he dont roll like dat. tchallas a smart and wiser man, learning to be less impulsive than tony...
but he did tell on her to ross.
+Earthling Crusader He's a King. Not to mention he outclasses her in every way. Only way he would have taken her out is if she killed someone from his country.
He doesn't have to kill her. But I thought it was some bs that he was somehow able to dodge Hawkeye's multiple arrows at damn near point blank range, but he couldn't dodge Black Widow's electro-thingys. And he could've at least subdued her and brought her into Ross personally.