I received the k9 16 inch barrel and hatchet barrel. Extremely happy with the accuracy increase. Sub moa with match anmmo. Also the gas’s system produces noticeably less recoil. With last round lock back ever time. I did not notice any group size, increase or point of impact shift when shooting the barrel hot or cold. The weight is shifted to the rear with the profile design and the barrel even matched up to the receiver better. This is my new duty barrel paired with a Vcog.
What handguard you using for your 12.5? I just ordered a Geissele 12.5 taper profile barrel after seeing 9hole test 4 or 5 Geissele rifles and getting 1 moa or better with all of them. Plus they're well gassed so yeah it seemed like a good snag for the memorial day sale. I'm still open to ideas for mlok handguards but I want an fde one that's 11.5". I'm very seriously considering purchasing a 13" MK16 URGI rail and cutting it down to 11.5 or 11.8 with a bridgeport mill. BUT, if anyone knows of a good handguard that's 11.5" and available in fde let me know.
@@yeshua1176 Yeah they're one of the only ones I can find that consistently has fde 11.5 rails. I wouldn't mind a SOLGW rail but I can't seem to find them in fde in that length, maybe I'm not looking in the right places though?
Love your content and you dudes have really taught me a lot that has made me a better marksman and a more competent concealed carrier too. This barrel is probably great, Rosco really knows how to make good barrels and people are really sleeping on stainless barrels. They're so much easier to machine and that results in a more precisely manufactured barrel with more consistent wall thickness of the barrel and its easier to machine a pristine crown on stainless. I'm also curious what effect the heat from the machining process itself has on the barrel. I've never seen any manufacturer discuss this so I'd be interested to hear about it. I'm someone who has been known to dabble in cartesian coordinate systems myself so if you could get the Rosco guys on the channel to discuss about the actual process of manufacturing barrels I think that would be really interesting to a lot of us. I gotta say something though. You guys discounted nearly every shot outside of a 1" diameter as a flier or by saying "ohhh that's just me", alright, maybe some of them. But come on man...the groups were good even with the "fliers", most people shoot a few 3 shot groups and find one or two that are sub moa and then say "look at this guys, I gots myself a sub moa Bear Creek". Very few AR15 barrels truly stay sub moa in 9 or 12 shot groups. It just is what it is. I'm not saying that sub moa AR barrels don't exist. But they're few and far between. 1.5-2moa is good in an AR15. It just isn't a precision rifle. There are other platforms designed specifically for that. I hope you guys make a boatload of cash off this partnership. I know the whole economy including the gun industry has slowed down. If I'm ever down in Florida I really would like to take a class with you guys. You got a great range and seem like good dudes.
Thanks so much for your support and words of encouragement, and also as long as we can make enough to pay our bills we are happy, not looking to get rich, just looking to be obedient to the Lord and use the platform as an outlet to learn, grow, teach and present the saving grace of Jesus Christ to this community! I’m glad you are here with us!
@@barrelandhatchet like I said, I like your content. "flier exclusion" is pretty freaking mild as far as bias on RUclips gun reviews go. I've seen several guys sponsored by PSA have PSA guns that malfunctioned multiple times frame the conclusion of the review by saying "well aside from a few hiccups the gun performed flawlessly" lol. When I say I hope you guys make a lot of money I actually genuinely mean it. You deserve success. We all gotta make a living and unfortunately a basic living is expensive nowadays! The intermediate gas system is cool btw. When I get to the point of needing a rebarrel on my 16" BCM I'd be very open to this barrel.
Interested in upgrading my 40 ounce 1/9 twist bushmaster barrel to this one. It is a scoped patrol rifle though and I’ve never ran a stainless steel barrel. Will the nitride be enough protection to run this barrel hard without burning it out with high round counts. And does the nitride hurt the accuracy to the point we’re you are loosing the advantage of the stainless steel. Love the profile and intermediate gas system by the way.
Ah I just realized it's a 1-7 twist, not 1-8. I wanted the 18" SPR profile Purebred barrel because of your SPR build, so I now have an upper with one. Haven't tried it yet.
Rosco’s have consistently been the best performance for the price in the market I’ve ran. Across all my rosco barrels (a 12.5, 14.5, 16, 18 and 20 ) they are all .65-1.1 moa shooters with 77 SMKs and a relatively cool barrel. They are by no means as good as my Criterion’s or Centurion barrels, but those are also 3-4 times the price. The extra money from a truly premium barrel buys you .4-.65 moa groups cold, and a sustained sub moa barrel when it’s screaming hot (think long range rapid engagement training). If your accuracy requirements (aka cone of fire for required target size at x distance) are sub moa cold, sub 2 moa hot save your money and go Rosco. Keep in mind the vast majority of shooters aren’t sub moa shooters and this will be completely adequate for 90% of shooters.
I have 2 Criterions and man they're good shooters. My 11.5 is a Criterion Hybrid and I built a 16" SPR type rig with a Criterion CORE which is kinda thin for a typical SPR barrel but its very accurate and very wieldy. Still, I find myself grabbing my 11.5" Criterion and my 14.5" BCM ELW BFH guns on most range days. I really like my 14.5 BCM and my 11.5" Criterion the most out of all my guns.
@@armorers_wrench agreed on the quality of Criterion. We do a lot of 300-1200 yard 556 shooting at the ranch these days. So i find myself at the stage of only shooting premium barrels anymore in SPR style guns, but still run my “mid tier” rosco guns when i it fits the bill.. and will recommend Rosco to any new and semi experienced shooters looking to upgrade from a factory barrel or reach the skill of outshooting their 2moa+ cold equipment.
Thinking about replacing my BA Hanson 16in barrel for a Roscoe Heavy barrel. With so many quality manufacturers producing great parts at good prices. Feels we're spoiled with choices. I like to have spare barrels, bolts, etc. In case something breaks or has QC problems. We're living in a great time for rifles & optics. 🎉
thats a solid barrel. im happy getting 2.5 inch out of green tips. 2-2.5 with m193. right on. may have to check one of these out….would like to see what kind of a round count this barrel can do.
Damnit I want to watch but don’t have an hour 😂 I’ll save this one for later boys. Just watching the intro I’m intrigued. Saw a 416 nitride barrel? Really interested to hear how 416 nitride holds up to high firing schedules and extreme heat. Iv heard the guy from red right hand talking about stainless and nitride recently.
Also. It’s the 16 inch version of the barrel that Rosco did with sage dynamics. Which leads me to believe Rosco is approaching these channels with a paycheck to “partner” with them on the design of a barrel. Doesn’t make the barrel bad just saying. Neither RUclipsr likely had any say in the design of the barrel itself.
Right hand is going to be doing some big things for the prepared citizen community. Hopefully you were able to watch the video and were able to get some good information
Ok this may just be my tism flaring, but... What if somebody put a lower into one of those benchrest mount things to keep the rifle totally fixed (eliminating shooter error/flyers?) and then have two uppers. One the 16" Rosco K9 with the 1/7, and one with the 16" Criterion Core with the 1/8 (the other big continuous profile barrel right now), but otherwise identical. Run the full variety of ammo through both and compare.
Not necessarily apples to apples... 416R/Nitride versus 4150/Phos&Chrome, 5.56NATO vs .223 Wylde Chambering, .750 journal vs .625 journal, $225 retail vs $329 retail. There's alot of differences. Not saying don't test them, just saying it's not otherwise identical.
@DominicZelenak use case dependant. For a precision barrel a qpq coated stainless barrel is gonna last a long time. For a carbine I like a socom profile 10.3/5.
We are running safari land however I cannot remember the model. Just go to the website and try doing the holster builder. And it will be based off of Barrel length
Ive never seen a rifle across the whole of the interwebs shoot M855A1 under 2 MOA. I have no idea how this is considered "the best 5.56mm combat cartridge" ever devised. The army could have given the projectiles to master handloader Bubba from Alabama to produce a far more accurate load.
Dude, I totally agree as far as ballistically it’s pretty nasty, however, accuracy wise I have only seen LMT group it. Everything else it’s minute of man.
@@barrelandhatchet I would like to buy a box of 50 and put it through my guns. Just out of curiosity, because mine are basically milspec with Green Mountain barrels. Good video, good job on the product 👍
I’ve got one coming my way. Should be here tomorrow. I love intermediate gas systems. And I own every k9 series barrel they’re AWESOME and accurate barrels
I know you talked about it, but it bears repeating: This barrel is *REALLY* well gassed. I'm running mine with a K sized, non-flow through can and it's just a really soft shooter. Accuracy is great too, as you showed, but it's just a really pleasant setup to shoot. No real gas in the face, back on target fast for follow on shots, and hits where you aim it. Exactly what you want for a kinda all around gas gun. FWIW, mine also likes PMC X-Tac 62 gr. Groups like what you were showing for M193.
I'm waiting on my Vortex PSTII 2-10 for my MK12 clone. If Primary Arms had used their Athena(I believe?) reticle in their 2.5-10, I'd have picked it instead. Really like the content ya'll are putting out. 👍🏽
Guys great video as always. This is your favorite atheist subscriber, and like always I don't share your religious beliefs but respect the crap out of your 2A content. Gracias.
Ive been using a Geissele 14.5" Super Duty upper the past 3 years, and it has been insanely good. Scored the complete upper on black friday for $740 3 years back and it has been everything i could have ever asked for. Consistent 1-1.5MOA with tons of ammo, super smooth, gassed beautifully, and as reliable and bombproof as you could ever hope for a Duty rifle to be. Absolutely outstanding. That being said. Id never pay full price for one. I would 100% build something out and Rosco would be one of the main barrels i would look at, i know several people who used them in their builds and by all accounts they are respected by basically anyone in the community.
I could not agree more. The UGI is a good upper, ROSCO takes extreme care in providing quality parts for Shooters and something else that has been a big deal for us in working with them is that the people who work at that company are also Shooters and understand the culture and the needs of shooters.
I've been waiting on these but ended up grabbing a ridgeline rifle in the mean time lol. Will eventually build another rifle so will definitely end up with one. Looks like a sweet setup
I had a pretty unpleasant experience with rosco a while back regarding quality and CS. I hope they have gotten better but I moved to Criterion and haven't looked back.
Serious question... Unsupressed, that barrel was ejecting at 4:30 - 5:00, and that's in FL on a hot day. I assume because that patrol length gas system has less dwell than a mid length on a 16" barrel. My question is, in a cold environment like a Wisconsin winter, will that barrel move enough gas to cycle the rifle? If not, I wonder if drilling the gas port slightly would correct it for those of us who live in the north.
This barrel doesn't have patrol length gas. This barrel is 'intermediate' length gas, which is between Mid and Rifle length. This barrel is ported to run both suppressed and unsupressed, you will have no issues running it in a cold Wisconsin winter. Rosco is located in New England, we test all of our barrels in harsh winter conditions.
@@RoscoMfg Thanks for the reply! Im a big fan of Rosco so far, with my Bloodline 16" mid length, and Im really looking forward to trying more of your barrels on future upper builds.
@@barrelandhatchetdebating replacing my Rosco 14.5” govt profile with a 13.95” or 16” K9, what kind of round count do you expect with these 416R nitride barrels compared to a 4150 nitride barrel? Have read multiple articles saying nitriding 416R doesn’t add any durability like it does with 4150. Is the bore/rifling actually nitrided or just the exterior?
There was a time. That a friend of mine. Who is a armorer and whom I served with in the Marines (Infantry, he became a gunsmith and armorer after the Marines), had helped start a company named Archer Manufacturing. They were cutting their own barrels. And sending them off to be QPQ. There is something magical that happens it's been said when you QPQ/Nitride a SS barrel. And it depends on who is doing the QPQ/Nitride process. They were seeing 12-15k before the barrels were opening up. But they weren't falling off the table. A 1 moa barrel would open up to 1.25 to 1.5 moa. And by the time it started keyholing they were still under 2 moa. And at a 20k+ round count. They had a proprietary rifling method that was called under cut rifling. And their barrels ran super fast. They had data testing on 12.5 inch 7.62mm barrels that had better velo than 16 inch barrels. And they were getting that across the board. If you get on Primary and Secondary's FB group page and search Archer Manufacturing it should bring up old posts. Criterion has also posted in places the longevity of their SS QPQ barrels. Saying the same things. Naked SS barrels do wear a lot faster. I think that CHF is way overrated. A button cut barrel is always going to be generally more accurate. CHF is actually a faster way to make barrels. And they make you pay for it too. Geissele seems to make a very accurate CHF barrel. The ones I've seen from FN and DD are run of the mil accuracy wise. 3 moa but lasts for 30k is meh. Combat accurate for sure. But are falling way behind the accuracy curve more and more. And the pricing on CHF is atrocious.
@@cameron3525 he lost by 430 votes of 30,000 people that voted in a district with 500,000 possible voters Aka it was a ~1% difference ~51%-49% Brandon won more total counties and his wins were more decisive than the other guys but the other guy had something like 1000 more votes in the one urban district which Brandon couldn’t quite make up for from the other counties The other guy spend ~$9,000,000 and Brandon only spend ~$1,000,000 The other guy did lots of bs attack ads Not sure Brandon did the same The other guy was the incumbent and backed by the party already Brandon is completely new to politics Anyway, yeah the odds were way against him and yet he was so close to winning We’ll have to wait and see if Brandon tries as an independent for the general election
Send an email to team@barrelandhatchet.com and we will get it sorted out. It’s just the two of us, so we will try and get you sorted as quick as we can brother
I'm sure Black River Tactical are displeased to see another of their gas lengths used by Rosco. Then again, for 16" barrels BRT lagged behind other companies that already tried to smooth out that length's impulse: Knight's Armament, Stretch Precision.
Does BRT have that Gas Length patented? If not why would they be pissed about it. There is not much more any Firearms Manufacture can do to make a AR "Unique" because just about everything has been done to the AR which is fine in my opinion.
BRT uses their own gas lengths. I own several of each The rosco k9 on the 12.5” is longer than the EXC length. And the intermediate length gas system on my rainier arms ultra match mod2 from 2016 is longer than mid length obviously but rosco has their OWN proprietary length on the 12.5” Intermediate has been around for a while dude they’re not taking anything from BRT I like my brt barrels too but the rosco k9 lineup is incredible I’ve got one of each including this barrel and hatchet version. They blow away a ton of “match” barrels. My 12.5” put down a 1/2moa group the first time out 5 round group
@@MrTylero28 i did acknowledge that BRT didn't invent the concept first. And honestly it's a mistake for the industry to not standardize gas lengths and names for fear of stealing another company's idea or whatever.
Damn Hoss chill, gonna have a stroke if ya keep worrying about little crap like that. People make mistakes, I do and I am positive you have as well, RUclipsrs aren't gods.
Great video, even greater ending with the verse from romans and matthew! 🎉🎉
Bought a 18-inch pure bred years ago and still impressed with .625-.750 moa with most 62-77gr loads. Holds an inch with m855 loaded by federal.
Nice I just had an upper made with their SPR profile in 18", hoping it does well. Just need a scope on it and to go try it out!
Round count?
@FreeBayArea currently a safe queen but has about 1.5k through it.
Appreciate the support!
I received the k9 16 inch barrel and hatchet barrel. Extremely happy with the accuracy increase. Sub moa with match anmmo. Also the gas’s system produces noticeably less recoil. With last round lock back ever time.
I did not notice any group size, increase or point of impact shift when shooting the barrel hot or cold.
The weight is shifted to the rear with the profile design and the barrel even matched up to the receiver better. This is my new duty barrel paired with a Vcog.
I enjoy these longer form videos. I can throw it on and reload like 500 rounds while you guys keep my mind preoccupied. Good stuff!
You got a progressive press or a manual?
Hahaha lol dope
Nothing like loading explosives while paying attention to something else. 👍
Guys i may be behind on this but i just received my 12.5 Sage Barrel from Rocco and ill have everything i need to complete the build in a week
I have the 11.5 sage. I’m slowly building it into a night vision gun. I haven’t shot it a lot yet though.
You won't be disappointed
What handguard you using for your 12.5? I just ordered a Geissele 12.5 taper profile barrel after seeing 9hole test 4 or 5 Geissele rifles and getting 1 moa or better with all of them. Plus they're well gassed so yeah it seemed like a good snag for the memorial day sale.
I'm still open to ideas for mlok handguards but I want an fde one that's 11.5". I'm very seriously considering purchasing a 13" MK16 URGI rail and cutting it down to 11.5 or 11.8 with a bridgeport mill. BUT, if anyone knows of a good handguard that's 11.5" and available in fde let me know.
@@armorers_wrench CMT makes good mlok rails in fde that are 11.5"
@@yeshua1176 Yeah they're one of the only ones I can find that consistently has fde 11.5 rails. I wouldn't mind a SOLGW rail but I can't seem to find them in fde in that length, maybe I'm not looking in the right places though?
Eric... it's either hornady or sierra projectiles my dude. Hornady would be 75gr otm
lol thanks brain farts on camera happen more often than you would think. Thanks for the catch
@@barrelandhatchet your content is outstanding and many thanks for what you guys do.
Eric is a god among men, I think we can let this slight oversight slide just this once lol
for the AAC ammo, hornady did make a 77gr projectile for the round.
Love your content and you dudes have really taught me a lot that has made me a better marksman and a more competent concealed carrier too. This barrel is probably great, Rosco really knows how to make good barrels and people are really sleeping on stainless barrels. They're so much easier to machine and that results in a more precisely manufactured barrel with more consistent wall thickness of the barrel and its easier to machine a pristine crown on stainless. I'm also curious what effect the heat from the machining process itself has on the barrel. I've never seen any manufacturer discuss this so I'd be interested to hear about it. I'm someone who has been known to dabble in cartesian coordinate systems myself so if you could get the Rosco guys on the channel to discuss about the actual process of manufacturing barrels I think that would be really interesting to a lot of us.
I gotta say something though. You guys discounted nearly every shot outside of a 1" diameter as a flier or by saying "ohhh that's just me", alright, maybe some of them. But come on man...the groups were good even with the "fliers", most people shoot a few 3 shot groups and find one or two that are sub moa and then say "look at this guys, I gots myself a sub moa Bear Creek". Very few AR15 barrels truly stay sub moa in 9 or 12 shot groups. It just is what it is. I'm not saying that sub moa AR barrels don't exist. But they're few and far between. 1.5-2moa is good in an AR15. It just isn't a precision rifle. There are other platforms designed specifically for that.
I hope you guys make a boatload of cash off this partnership. I know the whole economy including the gun industry has slowed down. If I'm ever down in Florida I really would like to take a class with you guys. You got a great range and seem like good dudes.
Thanks so much for your support and words of encouragement, and also as long as we can make enough to pay our bills we are happy, not looking to get rich, just looking to be obedient to the Lord and use the platform as an outlet to learn, grow, teach and present the saving grace of Jesus Christ to this community! I’m glad you are here with us!
@@barrelandhatchet like I said, I like your content. "flier exclusion" is pretty freaking mild as far as bias on RUclips gun reviews go. I've seen several guys sponsored by PSA have PSA guns that malfunctioned multiple times frame the conclusion of the review by saying "well aside from a few hiccups the gun performed flawlessly" lol.
When I say I hope you guys make a lot of money I actually genuinely mean it. You deserve success. We all gotta make a living and unfortunately a basic living is expensive nowadays!
The intermediate gas system is cool btw. When I get to the point of needing a rebarrel on my 16" BCM I'd be very open to this barrel.
Roy great to see your still gunning and running .
Love what you’re doing keep it up.
Thanks for the info! Ended up buying a 16 inch Purebred mid length in 223 Wylde. After seeing your video and others I’m trying out Rosco!
Great to hear!
Rosco barrels are solid and this is a great option for the market! Keep up the good work gents!
appreciate you!
Interested in upgrading my 40 ounce 1/9 twist bushmaster barrel to this one. It is a scoped patrol rifle though and I’ve never ran a stainless steel barrel.
Will the nitride be enough protection to run this barrel hard without burning it out with high round counts.
And does the nitride hurt the accuracy to the point we’re you are loosing the advantage of the stainless steel.
Love the profile and intermediate gas system by the way.
Ah I just realized it's a 1-7 twist, not 1-8. I wanted the 18" SPR profile Purebred barrel because of your SPR build, so I now have an upper with one. Haven't tried it yet.
Rosco’s have consistently been the best performance for the price in the market I’ve ran.
Across all my rosco barrels (a 12.5, 14.5, 16, 18 and 20 ) they are all .65-1.1 moa shooters with 77 SMKs and a relatively cool barrel.
They are by no means as good as my Criterion’s or Centurion barrels, but those are also 3-4 times the price.
The extra money from a truly premium barrel buys you .4-.65 moa groups cold, and a sustained sub moa barrel when it’s screaming hot (think long range rapid engagement training).
If your accuracy requirements (aka cone of fire for required target size at x distance) are sub moa cold, sub 2 moa hot save your money and go Rosco.
Keep in mind the vast majority of shooters aren’t sub moa shooters and this will be completely adequate for 90% of shooters.
I have 2 Criterions and man they're good shooters. My 11.5 is a Criterion Hybrid and I built a 16" SPR type rig with a Criterion CORE which is kinda thin for a typical SPR barrel but its very accurate and very wieldy. Still, I find myself grabbing my 11.5" Criterion and my 14.5" BCM ELW BFH guns on most range days. I really like my 14.5 BCM and my 11.5" Criterion the most out of all my guns.
@@armorers_wrench agreed on the quality of Criterion.
We do a lot of 300-1200 yard 556 shooting at the ranch these days. So i find myself at the stage of only shooting premium barrels anymore in SPR style guns, but still run my “mid tier” rosco guns when i it fits the bill..
and will recommend Rosco to any new and semi experienced shooters looking to upgrade from a factory barrel or reach the skill of outshooting their 2moa+ cold equipment.
Thinking about replacing my BA Hanson 16in barrel for a Roscoe Heavy barrel. With so many quality manufacturers producing great parts at good prices. Feels we're spoiled with choices. I like to have spare barrels, bolts, etc. In case something breaks or has QC problems. We're living in a great time for rifles & optics. 🎉
I couldn’t agree more
thats a solid barrel. im happy getting 2.5 inch out of green tips. 2-2.5 with m193. right on. may have to check one of these out….would like to see what kind of a round count this barrel can do.
We thought it was a great girl and cannot wait for everyone to experience what we were able to experience as well
Damnit I want to watch but don’t have an hour 😂 I’ll save this one for later boys. Just watching the intro I’m intrigued. Saw a 416 nitride barrel? Really interested to hear how 416 nitride holds up to high firing schedules and extreme heat. Iv heard the guy from red right hand talking about stainless and nitride recently.
Also. It’s the 16 inch version of the barrel that Rosco did with sage dynamics. Which leads me to believe Rosco is approaching these channels with a paycheck to “partner” with them on the design of a barrel. Doesn’t make the barrel bad just saying. Neither RUclipsr likely had any say in the design of the barrel itself.
Right hand is going to be doing some big things for the prepared citizen community. Hopefully you were able to watch the video and were able to get some good information
Can’t wait for the barrel to come out. Moving forward I would like to see how these barrels handle with high round counts.
Agreed so far we have had incredible results
Ok this may just be my tism flaring, but... What if somebody put a lower into one of those benchrest mount things to keep the rifle totally fixed (eliminating shooter error/flyers?) and then have two uppers. One the 16" Rosco K9 with the 1/7, and one with the 16" Criterion Core with the 1/8 (the other big continuous profile barrel right now), but otherwise identical. Run the full variety of ammo through both and compare.
Not necessarily apples to apples... 416R/Nitride versus 4150/Phos&Chrome, 5.56NATO vs .223 Wylde Chambering, .750 journal vs .625 journal, $225 retail vs $329 retail. There's alot of differences. Not saying don't test them, just saying it's not otherwise identical.
This is literally the barrel I've been wanting Rosco to make. Perfectly profile length and features. 🤙
I wish it was 4150V steel instead of stainless, but still a good looking barrel nonetheless.
@DominicZelenak use case dependant. For a precision barrel a qpq coated stainless barrel is gonna last a long time. For a carbine I like a socom profile 10.3/5.
I just watched your video about you switching over to M&P Metals - I just picked one up myself - Could you tell me what holster you guys are running?
We are running safari land however I cannot remember the model. Just go to the website and try doing the holster builder. And it will be based off of Barrel length
Ive never seen a rifle across the whole of the interwebs shoot M855A1 under 2 MOA. I have no idea how this is considered "the best 5.56mm combat cartridge" ever devised. The army could have given the projectiles to master handloader Bubba from Alabama to produce a far more accurate load.
Dude, I totally agree as far as ballistically it’s pretty nasty, however, accuracy wise I have only seen LMT group it. Everything else it’s minute of man.
@@barrelandhatchet I would like to buy a box of 50 and put it through my guns. Just out of curiosity, because mine are basically milspec with Green Mountain barrels. Good video, good job on the product 👍
I’ve got one coming my way. Should be here tomorrow.
I love intermediate gas systems. And I own every k9 series barrel they’re AWESOME and accurate barrels
Very nice
I wish this was available at the time I bought the 13.95 K-9. Fudge.
I know you talked about it, but it bears repeating: This barrel is *REALLY* well gassed. I'm running mine with a K sized, non-flow through can and it's just a really soft shooter. Accuracy is great too, as you showed, but it's just a really pleasant setup to shoot. No real gas in the face, back on target fast for follow on shots, and hits where you aim it. Exactly what you want for a kinda all around gas gun. FWIW, mine also likes PMC X-Tac 62 gr. Groups like what you were showing for M193.
Very, very, very nice
I'm waiting on my Vortex PSTII 2-10 for my MK12 clone. If Primary Arms had used their Athena(I believe?) reticle in their 2.5-10, I'd have picked it instead. Really like the content ya'll are putting out. 👍🏽
That vortex is a great optic. We have run it in the past. You have made a great choice and thank you so much for being here.
Guys great video as always. This is your favorite atheist subscriber, and like always I don't share your religious beliefs but respect the crap out of your 2A content. Gracias.
Also the M855A1 will damage the Lugs on the Chamber after using them for a while LIKE 300 rounds down Range or it has been known to...!!!!!
I was going to say before this began either a Rosco or a BA barrel hands down best barrels for the money
Rosco all day. We've had significantly more issues with BA barrels
@TheMikeshannon i haven’t had issues with either but my favorite one I have is my Rosco 🐶
Man I wish this came out last week . Just bought a new barrel. Definitely would have gotten this one. I guess I'll just have to build another upper
Already set on barrels. But I enjoyed the video anyways. Definitely the last 5 minutes.
Ive been using a Geissele 14.5" Super Duty upper the past 3 years, and it has been insanely good. Scored the complete upper on black friday for $740 3 years back and it has been everything i could have ever asked for.
Consistent 1-1.5MOA with tons of ammo, super smooth, gassed beautifully, and as reliable and bombproof as you could ever hope for a Duty rifle to be.
Absolutely outstanding.
That being said. Id never pay full price for one. I would 100% build something out and Rosco would be one of the main barrels i would look at, i know several people who used them in their builds and by all accounts they are respected by basically anyone in the community.
I could not agree more. The UGI is a good upper, ROSCO takes extreme care in providing quality parts for Shooters and something else that has been a big deal for us in working with them is that the people who work at that company are also Shooters and understand the culture and the needs of shooters.
I've been waiting on these but ended up grabbing a ridgeline rifle in the mean time lol. Will eventually build another rifle so will definitely end up with one. Looks like a sweet setup
I had a pretty unpleasant experience with rosco a while back regarding quality and CS. I hope they have gotten better but I moved to Criterion and haven't looked back.
They definitely have good QC now however criterion is also a great company and you will not be disappointed
How long ago? I'm sorry to hear. Reach back out, we will make it right one way or another.
I bought a 16 inch midlength with and adjustable gas block. Needless to say it's more accurate than I'm capable
Is that a picture of Bob Ross on that gas tank cover? Lol
Yay, you spotted it
Serious question... Unsupressed, that barrel was ejecting at 4:30 - 5:00, and that's in FL on a hot day. I assume because that patrol length gas system has less dwell than a mid length on a 16" barrel. My question is, in a cold environment like a Wisconsin winter, will that barrel move enough gas to cycle the rifle? If not, I wonder if drilling the gas port slightly would correct it for those of us who live in the north.
This barrel doesn't have patrol length gas. This barrel is 'intermediate' length gas, which is between Mid and Rifle length. This barrel is ported to run both suppressed and unsupressed, you will have no issues running it in a cold Wisconsin winter. Rosco is located in New England, we test all of our barrels in harsh winter conditions.
@@RoscoMfg Thanks for the reply! Im a big fan of Rosco so far, with my Bloodline 16" mid length, and Im really looking forward to trying more of your barrels on future upper builds.
Isn’t the barrel life kind of low in the round count category?
You said you’re not zero for 77 grain what are you zero for?
55 grain apparently
What’s the height of your typical scope mount?
If you had a choice. Would It be this barrel or a criterion core in the same barrel length ?
We have more experience with this Barrel so we can speak to the Rosco however, criterion we have heard is always a good choice as well
If you can afford the criterion get it. But as a more budget friendly option rosco is my go to
@@barrelandhatchetdebating replacing my Rosco 14.5” govt profile with a 13.95” or 16” K9, what kind of round count do you expect with these 416R nitride barrels compared to a 4150 nitride barrel? Have read multiple articles saying nitriding 416R doesn’t add any durability like it does with 4150. Is the bore/rifling actually nitrided or just the exterior?
How does 416r ss with nitride hold up longevity wise? Same as other ss barrels with the 5-10k round estimates?
There was a time. That a friend of mine. Who is a armorer and whom I served with in the Marines (Infantry, he became a gunsmith and armorer after the Marines), had helped start a company named Archer Manufacturing. They were cutting their own barrels. And sending them off to be QPQ. There is something magical that happens it's been said when you QPQ/Nitride a SS barrel. And it depends on who is doing the QPQ/Nitride process. They were seeing 12-15k before the barrels were opening up. But they weren't falling off the table. A 1 moa barrel would open up to 1.25 to 1.5 moa. And by the time it started keyholing they were still under 2 moa. And at a 20k+ round count. They had a proprietary rifling method that was called under cut rifling. And their barrels ran super fast. They had data testing on 12.5 inch 7.62mm barrels that had better velo than 16 inch barrels. And they were getting that across the board. If you get on Primary and Secondary's FB group page and search Archer Manufacturing it should bring up old posts.
Criterion has also posted in places the longevity of their SS QPQ barrels. Saying the same things.
Naked SS barrels do wear a lot faster.
I think that CHF is way overrated. A button cut barrel is always going to be generally more accurate. CHF is actually a faster way to make barrels. And they make you pay for it too. Geissele seems to make a very accurate CHF barrel. The ones I've seen from FN and DD are run of the mil accuracy wise. 3 moa but lasts for 30k is meh. Combat accurate for sure. But are falling way behind the accuracy curve more and more. And the pricing on CHF is atrocious.
On average, we have actually had a Rosco barrel that is pushing the 12K mark right now
@@DutchK75 appreciate the thorough and thoughtful info!
@@barrelandhatcheteven the k9? I know the bloodline lasts longer.
Yes been waiting on this !
Anyone else watching this and the live voting results of Brandon Herreras congress run?
Does he have a chance?
@@cameron3525 he lost by 430 votes of 30,000 people that voted in a district with 500,000 possible voters
Aka it was a ~1% difference
~51%-49%
Brandon won more total counties and his wins were more decisive than the other guys but the other guy had something like 1000 more votes in the one urban district which Brandon couldn’t quite make up for from the other counties
The other guy spend ~$9,000,000 and Brandon only spend ~$1,000,000
The other guy did lots of bs attack ads
Not sure Brandon did the same
The other guy was the incumbent and backed by the party already
Brandon is completely new to politics
Anyway, yeah the odds were way against him and yet he was so close to winning
We’ll have to wait and see if Brandon tries as an independent for the general election
Hey, how do you guys do customer service? I made and order off the website and it got messed up.
Send an email to team@barrelandhatchet.com and we will get it sorted out. It’s just the two of us, so we will try and get you sorted as quick as we can brother
Is that Garand Thumb in the ghillie suit?
Ok im out...how many quarter inch holes are in ONE INCH, not more than 4
BARREL !! and hatchet
Lol, you get 2 brownie points for an awesome dad joke!
I have a couple rosco k9 sage dynamics. They shoot good but man are they heavy AF.
I'm sure Black River Tactical are displeased to see another of their gas lengths used by Rosco. Then again, for 16" barrels BRT lagged behind other companies that already tried to smooth out that length's impulse: Knight's Armament, Stretch Precision.
Does BRT have that Gas Length patented? If not why would they be pissed about it.
There is not much more any Firearms Manufacture can do to make a AR "Unique" because just about everything has been done to the AR which is fine in my opinion.
@@adamrodgers2377 Rosco isn't paying to develop the gas system that's for sure
BRT uses their own gas lengths.
I own several of each
The rosco k9 on the 12.5” is longer than the EXC length. And the intermediate length gas system on my rainier arms ultra match mod2 from 2016 is longer than mid length obviously but rosco has their OWN proprietary length on the 12.5”
Intermediate has been around for a while dude they’re not taking anything from BRT I like my brt barrels too but the rosco k9 lineup is incredible I’ve got one of each including this barrel and hatchet version. They blow away a ton of “match” barrels. My 12.5” put down a 1/2moa group the first time out 5 round group
As a side note the intermediate length system was developed by Eric at vltor YEARS BACK and noveske put the first barrels to market
@@MrTylero28 i did acknowledge that BRT didn't invent the concept first. And honestly it's a mistake for the industry to not standardize gas lengths and names for fear of stealing another company's idea or whatever.
"Best" is a bold statement.. not a fan of the new product placement based vids sorry guys.
One day a smart company is gonna etch 1/4" hash marks on the spines of their knives...
Why do you keep saying hornady and smk together, hornsdy doesnt load seirra bullets and ur target"aac hornady smk"???
Interesting. Anyone playing with 1:6 twist?
How about pin a link to where we can get one?
RUclips Will flag us if we put any links down
A like for the Bible verse I needed to hear and be convicted of.
❤Preffer to hear the shots than that terrible tune elevator music ,,,,,,its like nails on a chalk board ,,,,,yuuk !
Thanks for reading Romans 12:9. I needed that reminder. 🙏
Thank you for being here, brother. We all need those reminders.
Your pics of accuracy are not good. Do better. Maybe talk about what makes this barrel better than the competition
Load.
OMG ITS SEIRRA MATCH KING SMK, hornady has nothing do do with seirra
Damn Hoss chill, gonna have a stroke if ya keep worrying about little crap like that. People make mistakes, I do and I am positive you have as well, RUclipsrs aren't gods.
Very true we’re just too normal guys and we do make mistakes more than people realize lol
While you're right that SIERRA makes the SMK not Hornady, proofread your comments bro lol