Honestly Kane deserves more praise for wrestling with any type of star and putting over a bunch of people and taking off his mask and changing his gimmick a bit for the company. It proves why he's a legend and a dedicated company man. A true workhorse. Also not wrong about Kane working with smaller guys was better because his stuff with Shane McMahon was amazing although sadly Kane never had the classics with Rey Mysterio like Taker did with Orton and Edge, Triple H, and HBK. Then again Kane was more of a spectacle guy and it did work. Also that Extreme Rules match with DB was pretty fire
I don't think the "Kane should have never taken the mask off" people remember that in 2002 Kane was nowhere near as scary as he was in 1997. There is absolutely nothing scary about Masked Kane in 2003, that character was dying.
And the real number one: Sting 2015. This one's a no brainier. The Renegade Sting arrived at 2014's Survivor Series main event to throw a monkey wrench in The Authority's plans to an uproarious reaction. (Unlike some people, I believe that MOST wrestling fans knew Sting, so not that much education was needed.) He came in like a bawse. Booked pretty good right up till Wrestlemania, where the wheels came off the bus headed for the orphanage. Stinger SHOULD'VE won on The Grandest Stage. Then he should have been booked into the championship scene, to win Night Of Champions and to go on to an incredible run where they protect him, ala Roman Reigns circa Bloodline days, special event status. Part time and all loving it. Just look at his AEW schedule. Granted, some of that had to do with injuries, real and kayfabe. But the fed could've booked him the same way.
Undertaker post streak should have leaned back into the occult/horror side of the character. Have him make a Ministry of Darkness 2 with Bray and have Undertaker be a final boss of sorts. That way Taker doesn’t have as many bad matches and Bray gets a stronger direction going forward
Right He may not have been WWE Champ that year, but he was still a huge threat to the biggest stars on SmackDown in Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle And he even took the U.S. Title from Eddie Guerrero who was becoming the most beloved babyface on SmackDown
How did you mention HHH in 1996 without mentioning the Curtain call? Supposedly Hunter was punished for this and it cost him winning that year's King of the Ring. It was won by Chilly McFreeze instead and it did wonders for his career.
I don't think wwe wants us to forgot Taker post streak. Keeps getting used his footage, i feel the only Taker they truly want us to forget is his ministry of darkness era. Even AB Taker is celebrated
We got a great match with Undertaker v Flair (2002 mania)around that time period , which also gave us booger red -Undertaker which has been thankfully forgotten .
I don’t normally disagree with you Simon, I respect your opinion and you know more than me about this stuff as a wrestler yourself. However, undertaker no matter what was never just one of the guys after Brock beat him.
Kane taking off his mask to reveal not a physically scarred man but an emotionally scarred man who just thinks he’s physically scarred was not the move.
Where wrestling is different from regular TV and Hollywood movies, is that the performers are the same character continuously for years (sometimes decades) at a time, depending on its success. They couldn't subject Glenn Jacobs to the seven-eight hour make-up jobs that say, Robert Englund as Freddy Krueger endured for each Elm Street film years apart for the nearly 300-days-a-year wrestling schedule. And he WANTED the mask to come off due to the discomfort and breathing issues during matches, which is why the humanised Kane (2002-03) wore a half-mask to begin with, and why the 2011-21 version had the same shape. THAT fully-masked Michael Myers/Jason 1997-2002 aura was already gone...
Ortons issue is, unlike HHH and Cena, Orton kept wresting full time after already having over a dozen world titles. So you cant just keep having him in main event circles and have him get to 20 world title reigns, or just job out every title match. So he has to do silly stuff like the Wyatt family and teaming with Riddle. However, with Riddle, I'd argue as tag champs that was the most over he'd ever been! He was the best mic worker in WWE during that run, running over everyone in his path, especially the bloodline.
The Undertaker’s worst period was the Unholy Alliance era. The few months between Ministry of Darkness and American Badass (both bad as well). He couldn’t wrestle because he was injured so he just kind of managed Big Show. Terrible.
hunter hearst helmsley, shortened as HHH, a true blood who thinks is better than you because he’s rich… reminds me of another very over current star though
You could definitely tell that Randy was on auto pilot in 2015 and honestly, who could blame him. With a meaningless WM victory, that dogshit Authority storyline, and a empty feud with Sheamus who was incredibly stale at that time, there was no passion, there.
Maybe it's because I'm a Ruthless Aggression **MARK** but Goldberg's run in 2003 was good until the match with Lesnar and I thought how they booked Kane without the mask was great.
I think Randy Orton in 2017 when he was just a pawn in the Shane McMahon/KOSZ feud at that time, consistently teaming with Nakamura for no other reason than their boss told them to
Bryan lost the US title to Sheamus on Raw in March 2011; their Mania rematch was busted down to pre-show DVD extra, and *then* to make things somehow WORSE....their Lumberjack Match became a Battle Royal which was won by.... The Great Khali! 🤣🤣🤦♂🤦♂
@@SyrNarcissus and that’s why before he was washed up and maskless they should of had someone lined up to just take over and continue that trend like every 15 years…..wwe dropped the ball on this one
Kurt Angle stalking Booker T's wife Sharmell should have made this list. Either that or Kurt having Jason Jordan randomly be his long lost son (yes I'm an Angle mark).
@danjonmills I mean for what it built up to, yes it would be dumb. I think if Orton and Batista would've been accepted, this might have been an idea for DB. It could've been a "break the streak or lose your job" match.
I was fine with kane losing the mask, i was fine that he never quite reached the same heights again, what i wasnt fine with was him parading around the ring with santino and his imaginary trumpet. And i love me some Santino
well then watch NXt you will get to enjoy his daugther who,s ring name is Ariana Grace she is just as funny as santino was. Also santino in TNA gm now.
Goldberg having to wrestle longer matches isn’t a WWE problem, it’s a Goldberg problem. His comebacks have all been bullshit. He just squashes young guys in ten second pay per view matches. He just kinda sucks.
Interesting that you didn’t go for the Undertaker when he stopped being the undertaker and became “the American Badass”??? How can you take his character seriously when he, returned to being the undertaker?
This is what Vince used to do to people. Let’s just forget it and move on cuz that predator is never coming back to ruin WWE! For over a decade we waited for him to go so WWE would get better. It got worse and worse and worse, and now in less than a year of Triple H taking over, it is the best it has ever been. So f Vince and F his era. Let’s talk about the good stuff, not the Vince stuff.
So where did you get that becky lynch thumbnail? I don't remember seeing her in that attire at all.🤔....this video was not what i was expecting when it comes to "weird periods"... I'm sure stone cold would like everyone to forget his stint as ted dibiasi's million dollar champion.😄... or that time the tough enough competition went from a full reality show on mtv to cheap segments on wwe tv shows...and definitely the time they had a laptop computer act as the general manager and Michael cole as it's lackey.😄
The thumbnail was Becky Lynch at Wrestlemania 33. She competed in a 6-Pack Challenge against Alexa Bliss, Naomi, Natalya, Mickie James, and Carmella for the Smackdown Women’s Championship
@@blitzboy_6558 i guess i didn't see that one... regardless, the title says "periods" and that was just 1 appearance which he didn't even refer to it in the video, so it's very misleading.
Rey Mysterio when he was champion. As soon as he became champion, they booked him to lose about every non-title match just to somehow get a flukish looking win at the actual title win via roll up or counter. This made Rey look the weakest while he was world champion and it really didn't help his opponents as ultimatly they were just looking dumb for letting themselves be surprised by the champion over and over again.
@@j.t.a5395maaaannnn dude, there ain’t nothing wrong with giving someone their credit while they’re still around! Yeah Becky gots another 10 years in her career probably and it could rise her status but up until this point she is certainly an Icon and a legend for sure, I myself am a Becky critic but I am not ashamed at all to recognize her career has been great and in general don’t believe you have to wait till someone retires to analyze their career, because let’s be honest, a lot of these guys will never get the praise they deserve in life so we might as well let ‘em know while they’re still around!
@@Orlando-oc8ee I agree with this. When Sheamus came back we started recounting his accomplishments and quickly realized that he has had a Hall of Fame career up to this point. So many wrestlers seem to only be appreciated after they retire or die, truly sad.
Remember that short period where Kurt Angle's side gimmick was him being a perv to Joy Giovanni and Booker Ts wife? lmao
Pepperidge farm remembers
Deez
"I wanna have sex with your wife!"
Perc Angle had side quests to accomplish.
The follow-up to his Mania 21 match with Shawn Michaels was attempting to rape Sharmell...
🤦♂🤦♂
Honestly Kane deserves more praise for wrestling with any type of star and putting over a bunch of people and taking off his mask and changing his gimmick a bit for the company. It proves why he's a legend and a dedicated company man. A true workhorse. Also not wrong about Kane working with smaller guys was better because his stuff with Shane McMahon was amazing although sadly Kane never had the classics with Rey Mysterio like Taker did with Orton and Edge, Triple H, and HBK. Then again Kane was more of a spectacle guy and it did work. Also that Extreme Rules match with DB was pretty fire
Kane taking his mask off should have never happened they could have kept the character alive forever
He was sick of the mask
I don't think the "Kane should have never taken the mask off" people remember that in 2002 Kane was nowhere near as scary as he was in 1997.
There is absolutely nothing scary about Masked Kane in 2003, that character was dying.
I get why he wanted it off though. He wanted to be able to talk and have a personality like Taker was getting to do
@@tafua_a EXACTLY! Taking the mask off was an excellent idea, the booking after it was the issue.
@@tafua_a i read somewhere once that it was Glen's idea to remove the mask mainly cause he was tired of it
Triple H ate the punishment for the Curtain Call.
I was just about to comment wasnt 1996 after the curtain call and they were making HHH pay for it.
KANE TAKING HIS MASK OFF WAS CRAZY
Can be becoming the tallest governor of all time was also really cool
And the real number one: Sting 2015. This one's a no brainier. The Renegade Sting arrived at 2014's Survivor Series main event to throw a monkey wrench in The Authority's plans to an uproarious reaction. (Unlike some people, I believe that MOST wrestling fans knew Sting, so not that much education was needed.) He came in like a bawse. Booked pretty good right up till Wrestlemania, where the wheels came off the bus headed for the orphanage. Stinger SHOULD'VE won on The Grandest Stage. Then he should have been booked into the championship scene, to win Night Of Champions and to go on to an incredible run where they protect him, ala Roman Reigns circa Bloodline days, special event status. Part time and all loving it. Just look at his AEW schedule. Granted, some of that had to do with injuries, real and kayfabe. But the fed could've booked him the same way.
You forgot Dean Ambrose in 2018 when his heel turn ruined him forcing him to quit WWE.
He hasn't exactly been subtle, terrible creative and misuse was why he left, it wasn't just the late heel turn it was his many year run post Shield...
It wasn't just the heel turn, it was everything post shield break up. If you haven't, I'd recommend listening to his episode of Talk is Jericho.
Undertaker post streak should have leaned back into the occult/horror side of the character. Have him make a Ministry of Darkness 2 with Bray and have Undertaker be a final boss of sorts. That way Taker doesn’t have as many bad matches and Bray gets a stronger direction going forward
Unfortunately an out of touch old man was making the decisions :/
One of Triple H's highlights in 1996 was when he hit that violent Pedigree on Marty Garner.
Disagree with Show on 2003. That was easily his best year in the company up to that point.
Right
He may not have been WWE Champ that year, but he was still a huge threat to the biggest stars on SmackDown in Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle
And he even took the U.S. Title from Eddie Guerrero who was becoming the most beloved babyface on SmackDown
Kane burning JR scared me as a child.
Literally fear now thanks Kane
when kane retired he should’ve removed his mask there
How did you mention HHH in 1996 without mentioning the Curtain call? Supposedly Hunter was punished for this and it cost him winning that year's King of the Ring.
It was won by Chilly McFreeze instead and it did wonders for his career.
Predator Vince would like all to forget what's happening now
Kane taking off the mask is one of the most vivid memories I have a wrestling from my childhood. Legit underrated moment.
I remember I was building a bonfire with my Dad the night he burned JR. legit scared the shit out of me😂
That camera pan was epic.
7:30 being a Becky fan in 2017 was painful. Made the rise later all the more cathartic though.
Call me nostalgic but I enjoyed bald maskless Kane
I don't think wwe wants us to forgot Taker post streak. Keeps getting used his footage, i feel the only Taker they truly want us to forget is his ministry of darkness era. Even AB Taker is celebrated
especially the corporate ministry
We got a great match with Undertaker v Flair (2002 mania)around that time period , which also gave us booger red -Undertaker which has been thankfully forgotten .
Are you talking about Big Evil Undertaker? cause I think that era for him was fantastic and was way better than the American Badass
@@TheMonkeyLegend I’m mainly referring to the name alone .
I don’t normally disagree with you Simon, I respect your opinion and you know more than me about this stuff as a wrestler yourself. However, undertaker no matter what was never just one of the guys after Brock beat him.
They Should've Given Stone Cold One More WWF Title Run In 2002.
Kane taking off his mask to reveal not a physically scarred man but an emotionally scarred man who just thinks he’s physically scarred was not the move.
Where wrestling is different from regular TV and Hollywood movies, is that the performers are the same character continuously for years (sometimes decades) at a time, depending on its success. They couldn't subject Glenn Jacobs to the seven-eight hour make-up jobs that say, Robert Englund as Freddy Krueger endured for each Elm Street film years apart for the nearly 300-days-a-year wrestling schedule. And he WANTED the mask to come off due to the discomfort and breathing issues during matches, which is why the humanised Kane (2002-03) wore a half-mask to begin with, and why the 2011-21 version had the same shape. THAT fully-masked Michael Myers/Jason 1997-2002 aura was already gone...
Ortons issue is, unlike HHH and Cena, Orton kept wresting full time after already having over a dozen world titles. So you cant just keep having him in main event circles and have him get to 20 world title reigns, or just job out every title match. So he has to do silly stuff like the Wyatt family and teaming with Riddle. However, with Riddle, I'd argue as tag champs that was the most over he'd ever been! He was the best mic worker in WWE during that run, running over everyone in his path, especially the bloodline.
See No Evil was certainly not in theatres in 2007; it came out on.....
MAY 19(!!!) 2006...
The Undertaker’s worst period was the Unholy Alliance era. The few months between Ministry of Darkness and American Badass (both bad as well). He couldn’t wrestle because he was injured so he just kind of managed Big Show. Terrible.
I thought this was going to be more about gimicks that didn't work out rather then dates on a calendar. Maybe that's an idea for the future.
It’s crazy to think.. what would WWE look like today if Hunter didn’t carry Shawn’s bags in 96?
So stone cold almost leaving and airing his greiveinves in public was good but punk doing it was bad?
Minneapolis would be at the Vikings’ stadium, which is a dome. I had the same thoughts until last weekend 😅
hunter hearst helmsley, shortened as HHH, a true blood who thinks is better than you because he’s rich… reminds me of another very over current star though
The fact daniel bryan lost his first two titles to sheamus.
And their matches for either title both got shafted at two straight Manias...
I really liked burn-victim-Randy Orton
also ECW Big Show was naaaassty
I love Becky with those dreads.
i’m always so surprised about how short the active career of stone cold steve austin was
You could definitely tell that Randy was on auto pilot in 2015 and honestly, who could blame him. With a meaningless WM victory, that dogshit Authority storyline, and a empty feud with Sheamus who was incredibly stale at that time, there was no passion, there.
A lot of people like me believe they never should’ve taken the mask off of Kane luckily for you.
The fact y'all actually made lynch an icon baffles me. The woman is goofy as hell especially when she tries to act cool.
Maybe it's because I'm a Ruthless Aggression **MARK** but Goldberg's run in 2003 was good until the match with Lesnar and I thought how they booked Kane without the mask was great.
I completely agree with Simon. They should never have unmasked Kane. It took away the mystique of the character.
I thought 07 Kane without the mask was the best.
I think Randy Orton in 2017 when he was just a pawn in the Shane McMahon/KOSZ feud at that time, consistently teaming with Nakamura for no other reason than their boss told them to
It’s not even his fault… *shows picture of snitskty*
😘👌🏻 chefs kiss to the editor!!
Kane losing his mask was a bad decision, but 2003 Kane was such great stuff.
when Kane took off the mask and went on a violent spree was refreshing..... but yes they fumbled it afterwards
I was gonna say for Ric Flair when he was storyline dating Lacey Evans to piss off Charlotte Flair
If any period of Kane's career should be forgotten, it's 2004...
The HHH stuff was was during the period he was being punished for "The Curtain Call".
Taker should've retired after losing the streak ngl
Bryan lost the US title to Sheamus on Raw in March 2011; their Mania rematch was busted down to pre-show DVD extra, and *then* to make things somehow WORSE....their Lumberjack Match became a Battle Royal which was won by....
The Great Khali! 🤣🤣🤦♂🤦♂
What’s up with the way Simon talks now?
I think WM 30 is when I lost interest for wrestling, and it only came back this year...who turns up?
Yeah, the streak shouldn't have been broken.
Randy Orton is underrated? I've never heard anyone say anything negative about him. He's even brought up in GOAT conversations.
The whole Samoa Joe run in main roster is also crazy, it is peaked at stalking AJ's wife
Kane could have been in WWE forever long after Glenn Jacobs …I thought WWE dropped the ball on that one
No, they did not. He was well past his sell by date.
@@SyrNarcissus and that’s why before he was washed up and maskless they should of had someone lined up to just take over and continue that trend like every 15 years…..wwe dropped the ball on this one
Shocked to see that Scott Steiner in 2003 isn’t on this list
Kurt Angle stalking Booker T's wife Sharmell should have made this list. Either that or Kurt having Jason Jordan randomly be his long lost son (yes I'm an Angle mark).
Biker Taker coming out to limp bizkit and kid rock is much more embarrassing
I still think Daniel Bryan vs Taker at WM30 would've been a better way to end the streak.
Nobody wanted that. Bryan was the biggest babyface and taker qasnt getting booed. The crowd wouldnt be into it
@@trappestarrgaming3422 I know. If some things went differently, I think it would've been a better match than the one with Brock Lesnar.
Wow, that's a dumb idea. 2 amazing, separate angles, that needed to remain isolated.
@danjonmills I mean for what it built up to, yes it would be dumb. I think if Orton and Batista would've been accepted, this might have been an idea for DB. It could've been a "break the streak or lose your job" match.
If goldberg was better wrestler the longer matches. Would have worked.
I didn't know Jonny sins was a wrestling geek
Pretty much
So they are icons now not superstars
What are you talking about? Unmasked Kane was a great call. The gimmick had to evolve and he was still intimidating.
No one agrees with this.
I was fine with kane losing the mask, i was fine that he never quite reached the same heights again, what i wasnt fine with was him parading around the ring with santino and his imaginary trumpet. And i love me some Santino
well then watch NXt you will get to enjoy his daugther who,s ring name is Ariana Grace she is just as funny as santino was. Also santino in TNA gm now.
Will people ever get over the 'wig incident?'
It was one Raw Segment in 2003.
It meant nothing.
You forgot about Batista in 2014
Interesting choices Simon.
The Reason why Triple H was jobbing was because he was being punished for The Curtain Call at Madison Square Garden.
natty Farting storyline
You mean Fartalya
yeah that angle was a real "STINKER"
I actually really enjoyed corporate Kane
I don't remember Becky with the braids.
It was a one time thing at Wrestlemania 33.
Yeah I’ve seen Becky Lynch like that on the thumbnail occasionally.
Goldberg having to wrestle longer matches isn’t a WWE problem, it’s a Goldberg problem. His comebacks have all been bullshit. He just squashes young guys in ten second pay per view matches. He just kinda sucks.
So…… Simon, are you going to team up with LA Knight and take on Logan Paul with KSI at 41 with special guest referee Mr. Beast?
Hmmm...you talk about Kane and fail to mention Isaac Yankem?
or fake deisel
0:37 true
I stopped watching wrestling in 2007, and one of the main reasons was the treatment of Kane.
I stared at 0:06 longer than the length of the actual video.
Interesting that you didn’t go for the Undertaker when he stopped being the undertaker and became “the American Badass”??? How can you take his character seriously when he, returned to being the undertaker?
Katy Vick. enough said
see no evil came out in 2006
RIP bray wyatt u are missed
This is what Vince used to do to people. Let’s just forget it and move on cuz that predator is never coming back to ruin WWE! For over a decade we waited for him to go so WWE would get better. It got worse and worse and worse, and now in less than a year of Triple H taking over, it is the best it has ever been. So f Vince and F his era. Let’s talk about the good stuff, not the Vince stuff.
Aloy Becky Lynch was awesome!
DDP in wwe
your cadence makes this unwatchable. How is there so many subscribers compared to other wrestling channels?!
Vince as booker/head of creative was the mistake they should've never made
Sasha from 2017 & 2018
So where did you get that becky lynch thumbnail? I don't remember seeing her in that attire at all.🤔....this video was not what i was expecting when it comes to "weird periods"... I'm sure stone cold would like everyone to forget his stint as ted dibiasi's million dollar champion.😄...
or that time the tough enough competition went from a full reality show on mtv to cheap segments on wwe tv shows...and definitely the time they had a laptop computer act as the general manager and Michael cole as it's lackey.😄
The thumbnail was Becky Lynch at Wrestlemania 33. She competed in a 6-Pack Challenge against Alexa Bliss, Naomi, Natalya, Mickie James, and Carmella for the Smackdown Women’s Championship
@@blitzboy_6558 i guess i didn't see that one... regardless, the title says "periods" and that was just 1 appearance which he didn't even refer to it in the video, so it's very misleading.
@@lexlopez15 that’s true!
2007 never happened
flair is a horrible predator
Hhh in 1996 sucked and was embarassed by the ultimate warrior at wrestlemania thank god for dx that saved his career in wwe
Hunter was also the one being punished for the curtain call.
@@IamGalvatron true
Sorry Simon you are wrong ric flair is a 75 year old bell end
Any day we get to hear from Simon is a good day
Deez
Rey Mysterio when he was champion. As soon as he became champion, they booked him to lose about every non-title match just to somehow get a flukish looking win at the actual title win via roll up or counter. This made Rey look the weakest while he was world champion and it really didn't help his opponents as ultimatly they were just looking dumb for letting themselves be surprised by the champion over and over again.
I’ve never heard anyone call Becky an icon but she will tho when she retires but right now I don’t see her as one
She's definitely an icon of this generation for many female wrestling fans fs. I think she has earned the right to be called that too
@@azrael_ao1 she is but like she’s still wrestling so like give her til she retires
@@j.t.a5395maaaannnn dude, there ain’t nothing wrong with giving someone their credit while they’re still around! Yeah Becky gots another 10 years in her career probably and it could rise her status but up until this point she is certainly an Icon and a legend for sure, I myself am a Becky critic but I am not ashamed at all to recognize her career has been great and in general don’t believe you have to wait till someone retires to analyze their career, because let’s be honest, a lot of these guys will never get the praise they deserve in life so we might as well let ‘em know while they’re still around!
@@Orlando-oc8ee I agree with this. When Sheamus came back we started recounting his accomplishments and quickly realized that he has had a Hall of Fame career up to this point. So many wrestlers seem to only be appreciated after they retire or die, truly sad.
Does he always talk like this??
Whatculture wrestling y’all should be sued
Hard to believe Duke "The Dumpster" Droese eventually became Kevin Owens.
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