Shooting a Classic Confederate Cap & Ball Revolver: The M1862 Griswold-Gunnison by Pietta
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- This is the second video in my look at Guns of the Confederacy, The first featured the JH Dance Brothers 44 caliber. In this video we discuss and shoot the M1862 Griswold-Gunnison 36 caliber, brass frame Cap & Ball Revolver. I put 42 shots down range in an effort to test the accuracy of this gun in my hands on a windy, MIchigan day. We also discuss special considerations when loading a brass frame percussion revolver to keep it running over time! Hope you enjoy it!
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My video featuring the JH Dance Brothers 44 caliber Cap and Ball Revolver:
• JH Dance Brothers Conf...
My video discussing the history and application of the String Test to measure shooter accuracy:
• String Test Measures A...
Grand Valley Cap n Ballers Muzzleloading Club
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great vidio sir nice looking pistol thank you for sharing today
Hey thanks! It is a very nice pistol indeed. Hope you have a Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you sir and a happy new year
👌👌👍👍
Thanks!
You said michigan? I'm stuck here, and don't seem to find like minded as myself. I've been shooting black powder since 1972 and cap and ball 75. Now I do flintlock on up. I'm mostly a Remington guy, however I do have a 49 pocket, a walker, Rodgers and Spencer, and a Ruger old army. This is my small channel. Just recorded a video on the bore size of my two. 36 calibers
Mountain man
Oh yea. Theres a bunch of us. I shoot flintlocks, cap locks and of course my revolvers. I’ll check your channel. What’s the channel name? I’ll mention you.
It's my idea you see on the comment. I'm uploading the bore size video as we speak
@StevenMMan great! Let me know!
Another great production. Your a natural in front of the camera, thank you for these videos.
Thanks brother. I’m having fun doing these things! I’m gonna shoot anyways. Might as well record lol
Thanks for another interesting video. Too bad the darn wind played havoc. I've enjoyed every one your videos and hope you will continue.
Thank you!!! I fully intend to continue doing this. It’s a lot of fun and I shoot all the time anyway so I might as well! Thanks for your kindness. Merry Christmas.
I think you're right about patience. These guns can just be loaded and blasted away with, but they reward taking one's time learning about loads, points of aim, even grip style (for me at least, coming from modern revolvers). Plus, all the fundamentals of shooting still apply 😂 Thanks for showing a test of your own shooting! One-handed is the way to go!
I bought an 1858 Remington new army revolver with a brass frame by Pietta about 24 years ago. I knew nothing about them, but the little I read about. The manual that came with my revolver said 22 to 30 grain of powder. The measure on my flask throws about 28 grains. So that is what I have been loading it for all those years, and I have put thousands of rounds through it, and it is as solid today as it was new. Just for fun, I started loading it with 35 grains of powder and a 200 grain conical bullet, and it shoots awesome. I'm sure I'm overdoing it with that load, but it is fun, and I know the gun can take it. But it is good to be safe.
That’s great! If it’s working for you for 24 years…go on ahead! I learn from hearing peoples different experiences. As it ages, like us all, just keep an eye out for hairline cracks to be safe. Otherwise fire away in my opinion! Thanks
I have one of those griswals gunnoson it's a beautiful gun
Yes they are! Great looking shooter
I have this old Reb Navy colt repro that I bought in Italy in the 1960s. I haven’t shot it but a few times because of chainfire. I mostly overcame this by filling over the ball with Vaseline but that is messy so I mostly look at the revolver as a decoration. I never took the time to do anything about the problem. Your video gives me the gumption to try to remedy the problem. Thanks. A trip to the Log Cabin gun store in in the near future.
That’s great. Let me know how you do. That’s terrific. Thanks
Man I’m jealous! Now I can’t wait to get the gear to go out and shoot my cap and ball pistol! Thanks for the heads up on the overload information! Very helpful!
You’re welcome! Have a blast! It’s a great way to spend time!
Once again, your positive attitude shines through.
Thank you sir! I appreciate it
That's a great looking revolver but them plastic grips are terrible. Thank you for the video. Greetings from Poland
I agree! I’ll be changing them at some point. But the revolver is cool and a good time! Thank you for watching and writing from beautiful Poland!
Hey Jay, I have a real life example of an 1851 Navy brass frame that has been shot over loaded. It’s a Pietta that’s sold as an 1851 Confederate Navy .36 brass frame, only mine has an octagonal barrel. And it would be a good example of what happens to brass frame revolvers that are over loaded. Thought about sending it to Mike over at Duelist Den, to let him do a video about it.
Well…I’m sorry bout your gun but a lot of people ought to see and understand the issue with brasses. Great guns if they’re taken care of. Thanks.
It’s always relaxing to see you shoot because you seem so relaxed and seems like you are thoroughly enjoying what you are doing! I thought you were going to take ALL the black off the paper haha. I agree about patience ……my last NMA it took me a hot second to figure out where the heck the thing was shooting and where to hold 😵💫 Another great video. Keep up the good work.👍🏽
Thanks! I am relaxed cause my shooting is my peaceful place. I love it and I’m glad it shows. I remember putting white printer paper all around the outside of my targets so I could see where my shots went lol. There are still some days where I’m more of a sprinkler that a good shot … but it’s part of the fun!
I vote for 2 for the next video
Thank you!
I think the grip frame differed quite a bit from the 1851 in the originals? like it was a 1851 bent backwards a bit.
I’ve held and original 51 navy and didn’t notice much of a difference but that doesn’t mean there isn’t. I noticed a big difference between an original 60 army and today’s replicas. For sure.
Hello Jay, I have the Uberti Griswold & Gunnerson, I bought it 2nd hand a couple of years ago, made in 1970, it shoots really well, lolly popping the sights at 25 yds. That's the same for the Pietta Schneider & Glassick (made in 2007) as I now know it is thanks to your discovery. Both these seem to be called "Rebel Navy's" in the UK but I suppose they were both copies of the 1851. I buy most of my revolvers 2nd hand. Today (August 30th) I was shooting a Uberti 1861 Navy .36 made in 1969 for the first time ..... and it was also shooting well with lolly popping at 25yds. So that's all with a large target so shots hitting 4 inches above the POA. I'm always very pleased when I get the older models shooting ok after a good clean up when I get them, I have shaky hands so unfortunately can't shoot one handed unless I'm shooting at a barn door but can still have a load fun two handed :) Cheers Chris
That’s fantastic!!! Since I’m old I love older things that work well lol!!! These weren’t made to shoot the wings off a fly, they were made to..as they said back in the day..to aim at the belt and hit the chest. So that’s why I shoot large targets too…two handed…one handed…it’s all fun! My hand is getting shakier too…so my two handed days are coming my friend! Keep shooting
This is shooting like itd be a good candidate for a modern barrel crown... Had to do it to one of my Remingtons... 45°. Oddly, cimarron does that wheh they get their cap and balls from Uberti.
Have you checked to see if the muzzle is square? Seem them a little off twice in 20 something guns over the years. Its why ill crown some barrels now after shooting.
I’ll check it out! Thanks.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb if it is out, the crown kits from Brownells is good and not a huge investment
@Rumblestrip thanks Rumble! I’ll look into the kit too. Might be handy to have
I am a pretty fair shot with handguns. My brother and I shoot together a lot. I handload all our ammo and also do the velocity stuff. He chases bullet holes. I chase groups. meaning that I care more about how well the gun/load shoots than how I shoot. I am gonna have good days and bad but chasing the last bullet hole pretty much means all days will be bad. Once I know where a gun/load shoots I can either change the sights or change my hold. at that point I will shoot the gun as accurately as I am capable.
That’s great! We all have our ways of going about it…and we are all having fun, I hope. To me it matters that folks are shooting more than how they shoot! Keep on sir! Thanks for watching and writing! I appreciate you!
yep....LOL... I basically will not change my point of aim on any gun even ones I have never shot before until I see two or three misses that all ...well...miss in about the same spot.@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb
@doranmaxwell1755 and I do that too. Start at the bullseye for one chamber at 15 y and adjust from there!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb yeah but me being me.. I like to see two bullets going in the same place before I adjust. I like to sight in all my guns to about an inch or two high at 25 yards. I do this from a bench rest. Once I know the sights are on I don't chase bullets. I get what I get. Sometimes that it great and sometimes not so great. A half measure for me is that when I start flinching I shoot a bit to the right for some reason. I can get off another 5-6 shots by holding on the right edge of the can.
@doranmaxwell1755 hi. You’ve got a great process If you’re like me, some days are good, some are great, and some I can’t hit the sky if I aim at it! I try to get no more than an average of 3” from my bullseye at any distance 1 handed. It’s a process and I use the string test to see how I’m doing. Thanks! Thinking of shooting right now actually!
I thought 17gr of 3F was a standard wartime load for a .36 revolver.
I think it was. I’ve seen variations on this. But my understanding 17 gr was the standard load in combustible paper cartridges. Loose powder I’ve seen different numbers. My paper cartridges hold 17 gr for my 36’s
Yes they will break into by over loading