Mark Twain, in his book Roughing It, wrote about the use of the pepperbox on the frontier. Mostly about how inaccurate it was and the carelessness of a particular owner who had to reimburse a farmer for an unfortunate cow. Great video as usual.
I'd imagine that someone would really only use a pepperbox in a dark alley against a ruffian who is only around 5-8 feet away, so four shots, even from a .38 cal, might be enough to deter such an enemy. Great video and great looking piece. Any chance you might do a video on one of those transitional revolvers you mentioned? They would make for a great discussion.
You quite obviously know nothing about defensive firearms sonny, shot placement is everything NOT bigger Bullets taking a.22lr round to the chest will stop someone and considering it kills more Americans than any other round we can say point proven via evidence not opinions,all the best from a grown up😊
We tend to underestimate the deterrent effect of even a small-caliber firearm in those times. Any hit was liable to become infected, especially as the bullets tended to drag shreds of clothing into the wound. With no effective theoretical base for combating the infection (and even less understanding of even basic antibiotics or disinfectants), once the wound became infected, if it was on a limb, the understanding of the time was that only prompt amputation provided any chance of the patient surviving. A penetrating hit to the chest or abdomen was a death sentence in 90% or more of cases, and a slow and painful death at that. When William "Curly Bill" Brocius shot City Marshal Fred White in Tombstone in 1880, it took White several days to die from peritonitis. That knowledge made little "toys" like this pepperbox far more lethal and effective, even if they weren't used, than today's medical care would make them.
There's an old saying about some of the Derringer types of guns, in particular the 41 rimfire. They were relatively weak in energy, but if gut shot because of no antibiotics, you were doomed to a slow and painful death. That's why people were afraid to be shot by one. It's not an exact quote but close enough to get the point across. I'm sure it's the same for the pepper box you have. But instead of an over and under Remington with two shots, you have four. Great content as usual, I really enjoy your videos.
Great video as always always loved a pepperbox pistol I found them to be just really interesting the setup and style and I'm sure getting hit by 2 or 4 of them balls would ruin anyone's day. My great grandmother and grandfather are from hungry they came over back in the late 1800s and early 1900s and I remember my grandmother talking about all the great food she could make and did make and how her father carried a pepperbox for self defense always found that really interesting her talking about the times back then
In the background you have what looks like a French flintlock .69 Cal. cavalry carbine. Does it have a scooped out cheek rest on the left of the stock so that the shooter can aim the sight correctly ? I have an Indian made reproduction that is very beautiful but without the scooped out cheek rest, so it is impossible to aim it correctly. Could you do a video about that carbine?
Thanks Sir , i really appreciate your videos ! I would like to add that 2f Powder is very suboptimal for this kind of pistol and barrel length. If you shoot short barrel pistols like this or like the boxlock flintlocks you reviewed before you need to take care of two things, that i have experienced while experimenting with these. A very tight fitting ball and the fastest burning black powder. 3f Swiss or 4f Powder will give much improved ballistics and show the real potential these pistols have. . This won' t turn them into magnum calibers but velocitys of 550 + fps are easy possible. Blackpowder of the 19th century was very sophisticated and 3f Swiss or 4 f would be quite equivalent to the old powder of that aera. Greetings from Germany and Waidmannsheil !
Beautiful little gun! Dear Capandball: I just realised that now that you have your very cool ballistic radar for measuring the long range ballistics of bullets, could you, our dear Capandball, make a video where you measure your hunting loads for your hunting rifles (muzzleloader and cartridge guns)? I would love the info because the hunting regulations for big game are slightly different here in Finland. Here for big game we measure the energy from point blank and 100 meter range. I would specially love to know the performance of your Pedersoli jäger or jaeger rifle with the Lee R.E.A.L bullet you use in your hunting videos.
@@capandballA downloadable file (for example a pdf.) would be great. As it would more "formal". And as a man of science you know that more info the better!🙂 Mainly the model of the gun, powder charge, bullet weight and size, muzzle velocity, muzzle energy and energy at 100 meters. Ofcourse I would also love a video about the subject!😁 Yeah the problem is that when you go and get a gun license for hunting you have to have proof that the gun is capable of the required Joules and has the correct bullet weight. For cartridge guns you can just google their performance or look at a ammo box for it's loading data. So police are fine with modern guns. Muzzleloaders are trickier because there's WAY LESS modern info on their loading data. I have found some charts made by black powder manifacturers but they aren't usually very usefull.
I imagine a pepperbox is easier to build than a regular revolver, because you don't have to worry about the Chambers lining up with a single barrel, so the timing doesn't have to be exactly perfect.
My godfather had 5 small pistols in his collection - 1 flintlock, 1 ball & cap, 3 metal cartridge - the modern ones where a .22 cal., .38 cal., and a .44 ( 6" barrels)
Looks very effective at close range - imagine staring at 4 barrels from 5 yards. And I bet that many folks from back in those days did figure out that the 2 handed hold was giving them better accuracy.
70-80 gunmakers in Liège at the time is correct, still misleading as they relied on outworkers who were independent entrepreneurs. Thus the "gunmakers" could thus produce 100-s of thousands "trade guns" for the Americas and Africa.
Is the air tightness of a barrel that is spirally disassembled and reassembled normal? Also, are the muzzle velocity and lethality of this gun very low?
Nice video! I like your storytelling also about the timespan when the pistol was developed and about other relicts of that time. Could you please tell me the model of the Flintlock rifle on the stand in the background of your chair? It looks so beautiful! Greetings from Germany.
That's not rust, but bronze paste I put on the threads so the barrels will be easy to remove. My hands were covered with the paste when touching the barrels. :)
@capandball that would be interesting to see. It's interesting how low powered most of these screw barrel pocket pistols are. It seems like the designs could have handled a bit larger powder chamber but maybe the threading was too weak for that. Are the barrels tight fitting to the balls or is there pressure loss around it? And if you make another video, could you try shooting it into some layers of heavy cloth to simulate someone wearing a heavy coat like people often wore in the past?
1830's: We've made a double action only revolver. It's not the best design but surely the future holds great things for revolvers 1850-1890's: You'll take your single action and you'll like it!
The technology of double action revolvers back then wasn't that good and manufacturers couldn't figure out how to properly align the cylinder to the barrel. Single action revolvers don't have this problem and are much more accurate, reliable, and suitable for the battlefield.
Don't recall seeing if you have choreographed any of these antiques your videos demonstrate to us. Judging by how little movement that steel target showed and the amount of powder to size of ball would suspect velocity may be less than 600 feet per second, maybe as low as 400FPS - just guessing, of course.
I. The world of colt collecting a Brevet is a colt under license produced by someone else. It is quite likely therefore that your Marriott was actually made by someone other than a marriot
May I ask a question of you that concerns politics? I know that you are normally wise enough to avoid this topic , but it exactly for that reason that I ask.. Your country is, I think , getting some terrible publicity in the West. Hungary is being touted as a supporter of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine in the Same manner as Belarus. I simply cannot wrap my mind around this. I have a friend who was a major player in 1957 Hungary . And his disposition towards Russia is quite unpleasant. Can you say if Hungary has a position of Support or simply just complete neutrality on the topic of Ukraine vs Russia ? Either way, I will still love your Channel. 👌
You are right, I do not like to talk about politics. I am a teacher, therefore my political opinion is irrelevant. What I do is teach basic values, methods so my pupils can understand better the World, and make their own view, preferably not based on emotions but on facts. But just for you: I was born in the socialist times, I know how that was. The western integration brought good to my country, I stand behind it.
Great Britain is an Island and a Kingdom, but it's not a sovereign state. It's a lot like calling the United States 'North America'. Please just say The U.K. or Britain.
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Mark Twain, in his book Roughing It, wrote about the use of the pepperbox on the frontier. Mostly about how inaccurate it was and the carelessness of a particular owner who had to reimburse a farmer for an unfortunate cow.
Great video as usual.
Which implies a .32 ball out of an Allan & Thurber could drop a cow, which is some serious firepower!
These old Belgian pistols are very interesting. Thanks for sharing it with us!
What a lovely relic. Thank you for the interesting video!
Id love to see more old Pistols on the Channel
I'd imagine that someone would really only use a pepperbox in a dark alley against a ruffian who is only around 5-8 feet away, so four shots, even from a .38 cal, might be enough to deter such an enemy. Great video and great looking piece. Any chance you might do a video on one of those transitional revolvers you mentioned? They would make for a great discussion.
You quite obviously know nothing about defensive firearms sonny, shot placement is everything NOT bigger Bullets taking a.22lr round to the chest will stop someone and considering it kills more Americans than any other round we can say point proven via evidence not opinions,all the best from a grown up😊
We tend to underestimate the deterrent effect of even a small-caliber firearm in those times. Any hit was liable to become infected, especially as the bullets tended to drag shreds of clothing into the wound. With no effective theoretical base for combating the infection (and even less understanding of even basic antibiotics or disinfectants), once the wound became infected, if it was on a limb, the understanding of the time was that only prompt amputation provided any chance of the patient surviving.
A penetrating hit to the chest or abdomen was a death sentence in 90% or more of cases, and a slow and painful death at that. When William "Curly Bill" Brocius shot City Marshal Fred White in Tombstone in 1880, it took White several days to die from peritonitis. That knowledge made little "toys" like this pepperbox far more lethal and effective, even if they weren't used, than today's medical care would make them.
The hell you mean only? It's a bullet.
@@christopherreed4723 may not stop a target quickly, but strong incentive to not start a fight they didn't have to.
Thanks!
Love from south of France, really 🖤🖤🖤
These little pistols are so fascinating in both the design and how well the work.
As always a great presentation.
Thank you for the education. I absolutely love this channel.
Beautiful little pepperbox!!
Thanks for shareing
It's a sexy little pistol with the power of a slingshot...
Thank you... Awesome presentation!
It's a bullet
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I think this may even count as a "less-lethal" weapon, those beanbag rounds fired from a shotgun are at about the same velocity.
The power of a TOY slingshot.
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Awesome video 👏👏
My great grandfather carried a Sharps pepper box rim fire, and my aunt still has it.
Brilliant job fine sir! With you as inspiration I have built my own screw barrel percussion pistol from scratch! Thank you!
Great work sir. thank you
I appreciate the history lesson on the pepper box! I am a gun nut especially on the old vintage guns. David Back from Menifee co KY USA.
Great video!
There's an old saying about some of the Derringer types of guns, in particular the 41 rimfire.
They were relatively weak in energy, but if gut shot because of no antibiotics, you were doomed to a slow and painful death.
That's why people were afraid to be shot by one.
It's not an exact quote but close enough to get the point across.
I'm sure it's the same for the pepper box you have.
But instead of an over and under Remington with two shots, you have four.
Great content as usual, I really enjoy your videos.
Nice piece of history ❤❤❤❤
It would have been cool to see what it could do in a block of ballistic gel!
I saw another channel where someone was testing slingshots that launched steel pellets at similar velocity and... the pellets bounced off!
@@Treblaine Wow!
Great video as always always loved a pepperbox pistol I found them to be just really interesting the setup and style and I'm sure getting hit by 2 or 4 of them balls would ruin anyone's day. My great grandmother and grandfather are from hungry they came over back in the late 1800s and early 1900s and I remember my grandmother talking about all the great food she could make and did make and how her father carried a pepperbox for self defense always found that really interesting her talking about the times back then
for once im awake to witness the uploading of a video
Pretty neat. Always love your videos
In the background you have what looks like a French flintlock .69 Cal. cavalry carbine. Does it have a scooped out cheek rest on the left of the stock so that the shooter can aim the sight correctly ?
I have an Indian made reproduction that is very beautiful but without the scooped out cheek rest, so it is impossible to aim it correctly. Could you do a video about that carbine?
Hi Robert, that carbine is the topic of the next video.
@@capandball Can't wait to see it, thank you.
Excellence; as per usual
Thanks Sir , i really appreciate your videos !
I would like to add that 2f Powder is very suboptimal for this kind of pistol and barrel length.
If you shoot short barrel pistols like this or like the boxlock flintlocks you reviewed before you need to take care of two things, that i have experienced while experimenting with these.
A very tight fitting ball and the fastest burning black powder.
3f Swiss or 4f Powder will give much improved ballistics and show the real potential these pistols have. . This won' t turn them into magnum calibers
but velocitys of 550 + fps are easy possible.
Blackpowder of the 19th century was very sophisticated and 3f Swiss or 4 f would be quite equivalent to the old powder of that aera.
Greetings from Germany and Waidmannsheil !
Thank you for the history 🎉❤
"lets see what this poker pistol can do at unrealistic ranges" >hits all in the black
:)
Beautiful little gun!
Dear Capandball:
I just realised that now that you have your very cool ballistic radar for measuring the long range ballistics of bullets, could you, our dear Capandball, make a video where you measure your hunting loads for your hunting rifles (muzzleloader and cartridge guns)?
I would love the info because the hunting regulations for big game are slightly different here in Finland. Here for big game we measure the energy from point blank and 100 meter range.
I would specially love to know the performance of your Pedersoli jäger or jaeger rifle with the Lee R.E.A.L bullet you use in your hunting videos.
Hi, I think I already have that data for you somewhere. A film would help the legislation in your country? If yes, I will make you one.
@@capandball Some kind of document or video would be awesome!
Yeah the police here are always suspicious of muzzleloaders and hunting😅
@@capandballA downloadable file (for example a pdf.) would be great. As it would more "formal". And as a man of science you know that more info the better!🙂
Mainly the model of the gun, powder charge, bullet weight and size, muzzle velocity, muzzle energy and energy at 100 meters.
Ofcourse I would also love a video about the subject!😁
Yeah the problem is that when you go and get a gun license for hunting you have to have proof that the gun is capable of the required Joules and has the correct bullet weight. For cartridge guns you can just google their performance or look at a ammo box for it's loading data. So police are fine with modern guns. Muzzleloaders are trickier because there's WAY LESS modern info on their loading data. I have found some charts made by black powder manifacturers but they aren't usually very usefull.
I imagine a pepperbox is easier to build than a regular revolver, because you don't have to worry about the Chambers lining up with a single barrel, so the timing doesn't have to be exactly perfect.
The black spot on the screen @3:52 had me wiping mine down lol
I'll clean the lense next time. :)
Awesome!
My godfather had 5 small pistols in his collection - 1 flintlock, 1 ball & cap, 3 metal cartridge - the modern ones where a .22 cal., .38 cal., and a .44 ( 6" barrels)
Looks very effective at close range - imagine staring at 4 barrels from 5 yards. And I bet that many folks from back in those days did figure out that the 2 handed hold was giving them better accuracy.
I wish a modern company would reproduce a doubt action pepperbox pistol.
i m lookin and i can't find were can i find a replica 8 shots Marette pepperbox pistol ?
70-80 gunmakers in Liège at the time is correct, still misleading as they relied on outworkers who were independent entrepreneurs. Thus the "gunmakers" could thus produce 100-s of thousands "trade guns" for the Americas and Africa.
..the better Revolver, because it iis safe to false ignition, missfire and gas-thight. Wonderfull pece of history ! Kind regards from Germany, Rudi👍
Hello, did you have to replace the cones? They are often damaged by dry firing or natural wear and tear.
Is the air tightness of a barrel that is spirally disassembled and reassembled normal?
Also, are the muzzle velocity and lethality of this gun very low?
what do you think about indian smoothbore flintlock charleville for beginner
"remember, mail ordering another pistol is always faster than reloading" - Call of Duty guy
Nice video! I like your storytelling also about the timespan when the pistol was developed and about other relicts of that time.
Could you please tell me the model of the Flintlock rifle on the stand in the background of your chair? It looks so beautiful!
Greetings from Germany.
That's an original M1786 French light cavalry carbine
Fun gun.
Interesting Pistol.....Thanks my friend...........
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Im not saying that i would want to get shot by it, but we are really at the lower limit of whats probable to inflict a mortal wound.
i was wondering what the cuts in the muzzle were for also good god why so much rust?
That's not rust, but bronze paste I put on the threads so the barrels will be easy to remove. My hands were covered with the paste when touching the barrels. :)
Given the low muzzle velocity, I’m wondering if it would even punch through one pine board.
I'll test that.
@capandball that would be interesting to see. It's interesting how low powered most of these screw barrel pocket pistols are. It seems like the designs could have handled a bit larger powder chamber but maybe the threading was too weak for that. Are the barrels tight fitting to the balls or is there pressure loss around it? And if you make another video, could you try shooting it into some layers of heavy cloth to simulate someone wearing a heavy coat like people often wore in the past?
Nice thing!
1830's: We've made a double action only revolver. It's not the best design but surely the future holds great things for revolvers
1850-1890's: You'll take your single action and you'll like it!
The technology of double action revolvers back then wasn't that good and manufacturers couldn't figure out how to properly align the cylinder to the barrel. Single action revolvers don't have this problem and are much more accurate, reliable, and suitable for the battlefield.
Don't recall seeing if you have choreographed any of these antiques your videos demonstrate to us. Judging by how little movement that steel target showed and the amount of powder to size of ball would suspect velocity may be less than 600 feet per second, maybe as low as 400FPS - just guessing, of course.
The velocity is measured in the video.
Does anybody make a shooting Replica of this ?
Addendum to my last post, "had a friend" Istvan has passed away now.
May he rest in peace.
Nice little gun, nice video.
7:20 A truly evil mind.
:)
I. The world of colt collecting a Brevet is a colt under license produced by someone else. It is quite likely therefore that your Marriott was actually made by someone other than a marriot
I think the camera used at the range needs a bit of a clean.
Yes, yes...
Bet that has a very heavy trigger pull.
Not that hard. Rather long.
Prince Mihailo Obrenović was killed with this gun in Košutnjak on May 29, 1868.
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Very interesting that old revolvers were all very underpowered like the 1851, but people loved them.
Well at least you got rid of those infernal Hapsburgs, nice pistol Hungarian friend.
did I shoot 3 shots or did I shoot 4 shots ... do you feel lucky
A hell of a gun 🤣
With a pepperbox rifle, a chain-fire would be unpleasant.
It is not easy to make a chain fire with this pepperbox. the nipples are well covered, and the barrels are long.
Winchester 1876
Капсюль-воспламенитель открыл дорогу для развития ручного огнестрельного оружия. Кремнёвые модели- всё равно не то что нужно.
So I guess this pistol was the
First " Belly Gun" you stuck it in the belly of of the bad guy and have at it
What a tragedy of a gun
May I ask a question of you that concerns politics? I know that you are normally wise enough to avoid this topic , but it exactly for that reason that I ask.. Your country is, I think , getting some terrible publicity in the West. Hungary is being touted as a supporter of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine in the Same manner as Belarus. I simply cannot wrap my mind around this. I have a friend who was a major player in 1957 Hungary . And his disposition towards Russia is quite unpleasant. Can you say if Hungary has a position of Support or simply just complete neutrality on the topic of Ukraine vs Russia ? Either way, I will still love your Channel. 👌
You are right, I do not like to talk about politics. I am a teacher, therefore my political opinion is irrelevant. What I do is teach basic values, methods so my pupils can understand better the World, and make their own view, preferably not based on emotions but on facts. But just for you: I was born in the socialist times, I know how that was. The western integration brought good to my country, I stand behind it.
Great Britain is an Island and a Kingdom, but it's not a sovereign state. It's a lot like calling the United States 'North America'. Please just say The U.K. or Britain.
Nice peperbox aka deringer pistol😊
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Great video!