Great video, now I know that my first mess kit is the ww2 Swedish one. I have the later one in stainless steel also. The early one is the largest of all that type of German mess kit. Swedish Mess Kit.That first one is m1895
@@silvaaa70 I think it indicates the the model year. There is not a lot of information on this one. If you Google the model there is only a couple of references/photos so I guess these are scarce. The bale looks an odd shape but is absolutely correct. Kokkärl means cookware in Swedish.
Here's a link to Part 1 of a Primer of Mess tins. Check parts 2 and 3 also. Your M1895 is mentioned in part 3 joyoffieldrations.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-mess-tin-primer-part-i.html
The two German ones are post WW2, they're not reproductions. The Swedish ones have the tree crowns on if genuine. The only reproductions I've seen are WW2 German or a generic eastern European/Soviet type made in China.
jelkel25 Thank you for the info. I know the shorter, more recent Swedish model has the three crowns. I'm not sure about the early model. I'll have to check on that.
You're right, I picked up a Swedish 1895 model (looks the same as your older Swedish kit) and there's no crowns on it, mines a lot more battered than yours but it's so well made it's not an issue.
People in parts of Europe and Japan used do that after the war, I always presumed the old style American ''lunch pailes'' were developments of mess kits.
Army cooking set with alcohol stove is very Swedish thinking. Swedish haven't war experience. In war alcohol is for drinking. Hexamine tablets are best smokeless fuel.
charles philippe Which are remakes? I'm certainly no expert but I believe the Swedish mess kits are authentic and pretty old. Especially the one without the windscreen. The others I'm not sure about.
Great video, now I know that my first mess kit is the ww2 Swedish one. I have the later one in stainless steel also. The early one is the largest of all that type of German mess kit. Swedish Mess Kit.That first one is m1895
The older Swedish mess kit is a Kokkärl m/1895.
Thanks for the info. What does that mean exactly? Is that a year or just a model number?
@@silvaaa70 I think it indicates the the model year. There is not a lot of information on this one. If you Google the model there is only a couple of references/photos so I guess these are scarce. The bale looks an odd shape but is absolutely correct. Kokkärl means cookware in Swedish.
Here's a link to Part 1 of a Primer of Mess tins. Check parts 2 and 3 also. Your M1895 is mentioned in part 3 joyoffieldrations.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-mess-tin-primer-part-i.html
Excellent video.. very informative. I've been looking at that early Swiss kit and I think I'll pick one up
stickyfingaz745 I like mine. Very happy with my purchase.
8:30 Trangia pliers handle is good to handling pots. Pivoted is unsure in some hold.
They look well made. I only mention the multi tool because most camping/outdoors-type people have them.
The grey mess kit is an East German mess kit, third model from 1970-1990, The grey kidney shaped swedish mess kit is pre ww2 made, rare
jonne kalja Thanks for the great info!
When east german pail handle have pigtail loops. This grey haven`t.
Cool thanks mate
Nice presentation and good information relayed. Thanks very much.
For more information on the German mess kits see John Sherman’s site
The two German ones are post WW2, they're not reproductions. The Swedish ones have the tree crowns on if genuine. The only reproductions I've seen are WW2 German or a generic eastern European/Soviet type made in China.
jelkel25 Thank you for the info. I know the
shorter, more recent Swedish model has the three crowns. I'm not sure about the early model. I'll have to check on that.
You're right, I picked up a Swedish 1895 model (looks the same as your older Swedish kit) and there's no crowns on it, mines a lot more battered than yours but it's so well made it's not an issue.
jelkel25 I love mine. I work in an office but I sometimes want to use it just like an old time metal lunch box. I'd probably get weird looks though.
People in parts of Europe and Japan used do that after the war, I always presumed the old style American ''lunch pailes'' were developments of mess kits.
Army cooking set with alcohol stove is very Swedish thinking. Swedish haven't war experience. In war alcohol is for drinking. Hexamine tablets are best smokeless fuel.
there not vintage but cool remakes
charles philippe Which are remakes? I'm certainly no expert but I believe the Swedish mess kits are authentic and pretty old. Especially the one without the windscreen. The others I'm not sure about.
www.dererstezug.com/kochgeschirr.htm
None of his messkits are repros. All are original.
jonne kalja Thanks for the comment.
NAA still postwar