@@SteelSpurs I mean I guess at the very least it's not all that different from Resident Evil 4 Remake. The Answer first released as a standalone DLC in Japan before being released as part of Persona 3 FES in the West; sorta like how Separate Ways was sold as DLC for the RE4 Remake.
Well, that's at least good. As controversial as The Answer can be, it is important because any time P3 characters make future appearances, you can see how they've grown because of The Answer. I know it's a far out hope, but it would be cool to get FeMC as well. Granted, it is kind of unreasonable given the scale of what FeMC is.
One version of the Japanese version of Persona 3 FES is called the "Append" version (the one with all of the social links on the cover) which just has "The Answer" and the additional FES content, which requires you to own base Persona 3 in order to play. The other one is the complete version of FES, which is what ended up getting localized in the west.
I'm so glad that you're doing a video on Persona 3 FES, Matty. I still have my own copy and it's signed by Yukari, (Michelle Ruff) Mitsuru, (Tara Platt) and Makoto Yuki (Yuri Lowenthal) aka the male protag of P3.
@@FoxHoundUnit90 Ikr? It was such an honor to meet the guy because I'm a fan of his work. Also his wife Tara, was Elizabeth in the game. Igor's assistant in the velvet room.
I got into the Persona series in a weird way. I started with Persona 3: Dancing in Moonlight, just because I occasionally enjoy rhythm games and liked the music. Then I felt that I knew a lot about the characters by the end of it, and I was on a 3DS craze at the time so I next played Persona Q (using the P3 protagonist). I loved that game, so naturally I decided I go back and play P3FEZ (which I just picked up from the PS3 store, since I was against owning consoles back then that didn't have a HDMI port, although I have a RetroTINK now so I'm past that phase lol). Despite what everyone says, the thing that struck me the most was how easy the game was. Coming from Persona Q which really tested your memory and problem solving skills, FEZ just didn't feel challenging by comparison. So long as you remember to cover weaknesses for the other characters when selecting gear, and remember to ensure that you always have a Persona to cover every enemy type (and preferably with a combination of being able to target one at a time or all enemies to reduce SP drain), at no point did I find it difficult. Yes there were a few cheap kills in The Answer, but there's always that risk/reward scenario at play where you have to wonder if you should turn back before you reach your limit, or see if you can push on until the next return point. This was a minor frustration at a few points, but definitely not what I would classify as difficult. I never felt like I was hitting a wall (although this would have just been the default difficulty setting, whatever that is). If you want "difficult", go play the final boss at the end of Octopath Traveller without looking up a guide to know in advance that you need all characters evenly levelled. I thought that was hell actually (it took me 3 long attempts to beat and lots of grinding), and P3FEZ is child's play in comparison (but way more interesting IMO too). Regarding controllable characters, there is a menu option where you can give orders to characters to focus on defence, do non-stop attacks, etc. You can't tell Mitsuru to quit with the Marin Karin "magic" attacks, but you can tell her to focus on Knock Down physical attacks instead. I think this is actually a great aspect of the game, because it's more realistic. The protagonist doesn't have mind control abilities, so I think that being able to control every character would take me a bit out of the experience. Sometimes the character actions surprise and even impress you. I've never played Persona 5. I'll get to it one of these days (probably retirement when I can spare another 100+ hours). For now I'm happy with the story from the manga and anime.
no way a persona 3 video?? honestly as a huge persona 3 fan it makes me so happy to see it in the limelight again, and to see a vid made on the game that started it all for me makes me feel happy too. I'm glad u said sorry to us fuuka fans as well lol. tysm for making this video 🙌
10:10 P3 retail originally came in a bigger sleeve with a soundtrack and art book. The info and art that would typically be on the back of the case was on the back of the outer box, because you couldn’t see the game case inside the packaging when it was sealed.
The P3 FES version with the same art as the manual is the Append edition which is basically like an expansion disc to the first game which let people who bought Persona 3 get the FES content without having to spend more money, while the other one is the whole game with FES all in one disc.
I played Persona 3 FES back when it first came out and bounced off hard. Everybody was saying how good it was but I just didn't get it. I was weary of playing 4 after that but I did and loved it. The same for 5. So I always thought of 3 as the one that got away. So now I have a second chance with Reload. Can't wait to play it.
I have the original persona 3 release that comes with an artbook and soundtrack cd. I remember reading about it in a magazine before it came out. I was in high school back then and being edgy and emo was all the craze so the way of summoning your persona was super interesting.
Regarding social links, I think 10 steps/ranks is a good amount for party members but other social links should cap out at 5. You're not forging the same lifelong bonds with them as you are your more direct friends in these games, so it feels a bit silly to have this long drawn out bonding process. Trimming these down could also allocate more dev resources into the quality and presentation of the main party member social links.
Persona fes was my first persona, I really dig the story, Its the darkest of the 3, but Tartartus was such grind. On one hand it makes the final boss feel really earned, I felt exhausted after beating the game. So in that way it was a negative thing, because I was done with jrpgs for awhile, but its a positive too, it felt really, like an accomplishment. My biggest gripe of course was not just the grim reaper or only being able to save every ten floors, but not being able to control the other members of the party. Especially when they have it, so that if your character dies its game over. So when you need to be healed but junpeis health is slightly lower than mc, she'll heal junpei, but if junpei dies he can be revived, if mc dies its game over. So she should be prioritizing mc, but she doesn't she prioritizes whoever has the lower health. Its been years and years since I last played it. I'm really excited to see what reloaded did to improve, a flawed yet already really good game.
I bought it years ago on PS3 but I haven’t played it yet. Gotta keep a few gems tucked away for a rainy day cause it’s rare we get true works of passion these days.
What a coincidence I just went back to this series.. Been playing P5R all morning.. I have the PSP version of P3.. Just got the new tactics one which is really good.. I hope the new P3 makes it to Switch at some point
I'm fully expecting them to do DLC or another rerelease with The Answer and the female protagonist. Because I really enjoyed my playthrough with the FeMC and I want to experience that with the new graphics. Regardless, I'm still going to pick up reload because I'm trash.
Persona 3 is and probably always will be my favorite in the series, and who knows, maybe Atlus will give us the Answer and FemC as DLC for Reload, it'd make more sense than doing another full release of the game.
PS3 FES might be one of my favorite RPGs of all time, the fact that I’m playing a fully remade remake as we speak is insane and such a gift to us, I literally bought my copy for PS5 even though I have game pass on my PC, as a thank you. Atlus, we salute you 🙏🏼
Incase you didn't know about the base PS2 version of Persona 3, it doesn't have anything on the back because thats the Collectors Edition version that would have come in its own box. The normal retail version has a different box art with white silhouettes of the 3 characters.
Playing the new one and I’m about 8 hours in. I like it, but it doesn’t make the OG obsolete. It’s a different experience and in this instance , I’d have liked to have a simple port of the original so I won’t lose it when my old consoles inevitably die. I have a ps2 copy and a digital copy on my ps3. Ps3 will die first. It was making noise last time….
So apparently the other version that you have is called an "Append Edition" and basically it allows for users that already had P3 on its original disc to be able to access the FES contents without having to buy the game again. I'm guessing this edition had a lower sale price at the moment of release. Interesting!
The Append Edition is only in Japan where they sell both the Append Edition and Normal Edition. Other countries get the normal edition only since Append isn't a thing outside of Japan.
The reason why the back cover of the first Persona 3 PS2 copy has no information is because the game came in a slipcase with an artbook. The back of the slipcase has the typical information about the game. Which is why the game itself doesn't have any, since it would be redundant.
I first played the original version of the game in 2007 and loved the game. Nothing else was like it. I also beat FES and loved it and then played 4 and 5. Not the biggest fan of the answer tbh lol
is good to see everyone is having fun playing p3 reload while my copy of limited box version arrived and cant play it on day 1 because they send all the south east asia region people a chinese copy instead of an english copy of the game. my day is ruined.
Actually just installing FES + HD Mod, because I could not bare to play the Remake anymore. The remake looks amazing, but it really destroyed so much of the game for that I'd rather play the original.
The script in Reload is a huge downgrade from FES. I'd say about 30% of the dialog has been changed. I can't stand Junpei and Yukari anymore knowing how interesting their dynamic and personalities used to be
@@24hr-Gaming I find it interesting that so many people are parroting "the new script is more accurate" when they themselves cannot read Japanese. Nor have they ever played the Japanese version
@@24hr-Gaming The English texts in Reload is the one for dub version. While the script is more accurate, playing in Japanese voice is not gonna 100% match with the texts. For example, playing in Japanese voice, Isako Toriumi will say she is Y-Ko but the texts will say she is Maya.
Portable I couldn't get over how stripped down the game was compared to FES. Running around does feel clunky at first but by the end when you go through the city one last time and talk to everyone, that's a mood. The world in P3 does feel small, but that smallness makes you not want to leave at the end. P5 is really huge with Tokyo, but Tokyo is both so huge and in so many games that I didn't feel as attached as Iwatodai or Inaba. Also how they did fusion spells in P3P sucks. You're not playing P3 if you're not running around nuking everything with Armageddon. It really sells Makoto as someone who's just built different. Yu can't do that. Joker can't do that. But Makoto is just different. But I can understand that fusion spells are just too busted which is why I like how Reload did them. They are flashy and they're cool but they don't invalidate your party which was a pretty big drawback in FES.
*And as far as I know you can, if you have a ps3, still buy FES cheap digitally. But you need to put money in your wallet and then get on your ps3 and buy it. I picked up a few classics last year like that.
I have it digitally on PS3 but there's one problem the game has a glitch that was never fixed once you get to the 5th full moon boss the game just stops working people complained but like I said it was never patched/fixed😢
I have odd feelings about this game. On one hand, I adore it. Maybe not nearly as much as I adore Persona 4, but this was still one I was willing to play many times over as a teen. On the other hand, I feel it's very flawed, even despite ones I think only add to the charm. And frankly, this is still going to be the best version of Persona 3 for me with the changes made to the remake. I actually first played Persona 4 without direct commands, so I was used to it for Persona 3 FES, but I can definitely get why others would feel off about it. Though what really got me in the gameplay was the pacing. Skipping much of summer for arbitrary reasons was one thing, but also having a period of absolutely no Tartarus access and very few SLs make late game play very, very slow. The voice performances in this game probably don't hold up like they used to, but I enjoy them very well and have appreciated how they've grown over the years. The obvious highlights are Yukari and Junpei, and while Fuuka and Ikutsuki are understandably wooden, I find the performances very charming. But this is from someone who enjoyed Arc Rise Fantasia in English, if you've heard that dub before. Even if much of the voice cast has not returned in future iterations already, replacing the main cast entirely for Reload feels like a cheap mistake. The soundtrack is great, but I'll never forgive the existence of Changing Seasons. It sucks, it's annoying, and it appears too frequently. The only other thing that bothered me, and this is more of a nitpick, is the "potential" part of the Persona awakening. I can get it for cases like Yukari who have a deep connection to the Kirijo incident, same with Ken, but it feels like nothing more than an excuse with Junpei. I think it's better handled when given more consistent purpose in 4 & 5, but it's not the end of the world. Overall, it's a flawed game that I still love. Even over P4 in terms of the final boss and even finding a certain villain more compelling than the culprit in 4. And even over P5 in terms of actual storytelling and arguably characters. I just need to bring myself to beat the Answer sometime.
I think it's unfair to say P3R is incomplete, not because it lacks The Answer, but because it lacks FemC. Let's put the points in the table here and analyze the whole thing: 1 - The Answer is an epilogue that explains what the fuck happened to the MC after the main game. Necessary but also extremelly necessary to be enhanced because it was annoying to play, it can't be there Day 1, it's easier to release it as DLC. 2 - FemC was clearly a new character pitched as an extra to give people a reason of playing P3P since P3P threw away the whole 3D and anime envrtionments of the game. It's easier to add her since it's only one 3D sprite (hers), a few 2D sprites for the new SL's and re-using the original sprites from the male SEES members with a few "shy " models. So, before I go on why it's unfair to say P3R is not complete and lacking stuff, let me explain why I think they wont be adding her as DLC, and if they ever do, it will be as a full damn release: 1 - Half of the current team is made by old fans of the OG Persona 3. The old fans usually don't like FemC given what she can do to the story. Imagine JK Rowling releases a whole HP: Gender Bending series, where Harry is now Rose lilly Potter or something like this, and instead of bein a depressed girl who is always fucked up by her family, she's still on the same boat as Harry was, with cousin trying to fuck her up, etc, but she takes every single situation on a brighter light, so she's twice as sassy as Harry but also, twice as smart too, most of the plot points that happens because Harry is stupid, won't because instead of chosing Ron as her best friend, she will choose the smart girl where she sees herself in the most, so instead of being stupid and not reading the fucking letter her godfather gives her, that's the first thing she does when she gets at Hogwarts on Year 5. This literally makes sure Sirius stays alive for the sixth book. She then, find a way to save Dumbledore because since she's smart and actually studies, she also knows already by Year 6 how to counter spells without saying loud words but she plays along with Dumbledore instead of just moving right away and she's able to protect him, for example. Or that somehow she's able to protect one of the Twins to die and so on. Imagine all of the important plot deaths that happens not happening anymore because you have a smarter, more in-depth with reallity girl, who literally ignores all of the bad things around her and only focus on the good aspects, and because of that she's able to see things without grief fucking her vision. I would hate that, because it's unreallistic. And I think the Devs of P3 literally thinks the same. FemC can: Date a child (No, she can literally START a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with a 10 year old kid, she doesnt make friends with a kid by playing with them and then let that be platonic, she dates him). Make one of the characters that have a bit character development because of another to fall with her so you can never see him have his happy ending with the person he loves because you wanted to date him, can make another character NOT die, and so on. She can literally undo most of the character Development or change the plot points. She's essentially a happy person who tackles depression in a brighter way, never feeling down, even if she has the exact same past as MC. And I think that's why Atlus don't like her as a character because the message of the game gets distorted from the way they wanted to tell it. 2 -Adding FemC was easier on P3P than it is on P3R: She needs - A sprite, animations unique to her, all of her Social Links modeled in 3D and 2D, all of the cutscenes need to be re-done with her instead of MC, a whole new opening just to insert her there, a whole UI change because her theme is Pink instead of Blue, and a whole new script to change pronoums AND for her social links, even the male sees members needs more sprites now. That alone would make a whole new game and they would sell it as a whole new Release. 3 - FemC is not necessary to tell the P3 story so I doubt they will add it. Now, what we have on P3R that I checked while playing, and why I think it's unfair to say P3R is not definitive just because of the lack of one feature (which is FemC), since the Answer will be released later as DLC: 1 - P3P wa sbetter than P3F in two aspects: Fast Travel, and Tartarus/Battle mechanics being enhanced. You could travel super fast, while you could control your party, create persona's easier, have new objectives in Tartarus to save people. have the same P4 battle effects and rule and so on. While most of the mechanics from P3F were removed tobalance the game: Persona Fusion Spells became items, most of the animatons where toned down because of the PSP, but you could also find Skill Cards now, and make your persona's build easier. You could also copy those cards too. P3F was better than P3P in presentation, animations and so on. Graphically P3F was better, Tartarus looked better and with more effects, but the game was slower and harder. P3R has all of this: You can walk and enjoy the whole 3D map at your own pace, but once you visit them you can fast travel to every single corner of the world, the presentation is flawless, the battles in Tartarus are fun, you can control your party members, Fusion Spells are now Theurgy abilities that you need to charge to use instead of spam withSP instead, so they are not One Win buttons or Items to buy, you have more of Tartarus to explore, the rooms are more varied and interesting to search, and there's no sound problems with the music either. The Skill Cards are present in this game, but also P4G features are added such as selecting Persona Skills, and P4G rules of battle (that are also on P4 and P5) are also here so status ailments are here too, even the newones from P5, you even have Ligh and Dark abilities that are usable instead of only one-hit kill that can fail. So you can explore Dark and Light weakness now. Every single enhancement of gameplay on P3P and P4G and P5 is here. In the overworld the game will now tell when you can engage with Social Links even the ones you don't know yet, a feature from P5 and P5R. P3R have essentially all of the enhancements added so far to it's gameplay. 2 - The Answer will be added as a DLC. 3 - The game still has the DLC stuff such as Personas and Costumes, but it also has some of the core P3F and P3P features which is to find equipment that changes your appearance in Tartarus. 4 - There are more dialogue in Tartarus too. 5 - All of the visual enhancements from P4 and P5 about Social Links are also here, so you don't have long ass messages that takes forever to tell you your current rank with a character. 6 - All of the Persona 5 slick menus are here too. Again, gameplay-wise, P3R got way more love than P3F and P3P, and all of the better stuff from P3P is here besides FemC. If there are gamers still salty about her not wanting to buy the game because of her, then their only reason for liking and playing p3p was her, and not the so called enhancements they kept boasting around that P3F didn't had. I don't think it's fair for P3R to say it's incomplete because it lacks a character that was never tailored thinking of the story itself, but was made as a last resource for people to buy the portable game, and because of that, they decided to go wild with her. I'm sorry guys but Grooming is Grooming, it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman who does it. SHe's a 16 year old girl who can date a 10 year old boy. That's how whacky they decided to be with her route. If they add her in the future, that would be cool, I agree, but saying P3R is not definitve because it lacks her is giving way more importance to a random fan-made character rather than the original intended story and that's what ATLUS has been showing to us forever. P3D doens't add FemC, nor her music. PQ2 adds her and makes sure to say no one knows her saynig she's from another universe. But want a better example? Imagine that, in 20 years from now, Atlus re-released Persona 5 Re-Royalize or someshit, and people gets mad because Persona 5 Re Remake lacks the new characters from P5X. A mobile game that is clearly messing with Multiple Timelines, even making you play as this new group in the same situation as the Phantom Thieves. It mayt be a fun story and the new character may add more Social Links and even add the possibility to date the guys on your party too, but he's not the character intended for the main story, no matter how cool it is to play with him. I think the excess love for how sassy FemC is and how fun it is to have her is clouding a lot of people's judgement about P3R and the reasons why she's not there, both technical and personal for the team. And I think it's unfair with that game saying it's not comlpete because of her alone. IF this game was more like P3F I would accept the argument but this new game is actually the mix of everything that makes the next entries better. So you can't say the mechanics are bad anymore. Now the complain is: Boo-hoo I can't date Akihiko without feeling Gay anymore (for the male persona gamers), the girls I understand tho, it's annoying to not have representation in protagonists, the only case being P2 EP. So I can see why you as a woman feels better represented by FemC, but still, she's not an essential character for Persona 3 just as the new protagonist of P5X is not essential toP5 as a whole.
Oooooh you have 5 versions and dont have the special edition boxed set with the soundtrack and the art book. I got it on a whim on Kmart not knowing what it was. That one is a real unboxing cause it has stuff to unbox. I might be willing to part with it fot the right price. Its mint condition, got the persona 4 one also. I hate people that cr#p on P3 cause they played Royal first, without P3 you wouldnt have your precious P5 Royal, real fans dont do that. People who just say Royal this and that, and cr#p on the rest are just people who are following a fad. Heck, if you just play persona and no other SMT games you still are followking a Fad
I recently got into the Persona series. played 3-5 in reverse order. IMO P3 has the best social links by far. And I actually didn't mind not having full control of the party, it put a unique spin on the combat. Everything about "The Answer" was completely terrible though.
Played the first few hours of P3R last night and not really vibing with it so far. Coming off P4 and P5R it just feels like doing the same things all over again with an ever so slightly different coat of paint... Tartarus is also a real snooze fest. Granted it pre-dates both those games and I think it would have been a great game to play first in sequence(or back when it was originally released) but playing it now for the first time after p4, p5, p5r it doesnt have the same pull for me to sign up for another 100hrs. Looking forward to Metaphor and how they shake things up with different setting.
Eh her route is more so catered to being a NG+ route. Not a fan of certain changes in story elements. It was only really implemented to compensate for a lack of content, a lot of people who like FeMC say it for her soundtrack, which will almost definitely be DLC in the future as well.
Yeah personally her route was my favorite because she had way better social links. She's not a ng+ character for me because I prefer playing female protagonists in general, so going back to the male mc in reload just feels weird lol
She has new exclusive Social Links, which are 10x better than the originals. She’s a lot of peoples first experience into P3, so calling her a NG+ character feels disingenuous.
@@SteelSpurs She’s literally designed to be a NG+ character, when you load a new game on portable Makoto is treated as the way to play “the original P3 story” while Kotone is said to be for those “already familiar with P3”. It doesn’t get more clear than that, she’s meant for people to get more content for future playthroughs. People who chose her as a starting character have to understand that fact, regardless of your opinion. It’s fine to like her more than Makoto, but her purpose in portable is very clear
A very trustworthy leaker has said that The Answer is coming to Reload as DLC later on.
Awesome! And while I doubt FeMC will be in the game, I could totally expect at least a FeMC costume for Makoto as dlc or something.
I’m glad, but at the same time, they’re really charging us over $70 for a PS2 remake. Fair enough I suppose.
@@SteelSpurs I mean I guess at the very least it's not all that different from Resident Evil 4 Remake. The Answer first released as a standalone DLC in Japan before being released as part of Persona 3 FES in the West; sorta like how Separate Ways was sold as DLC for the RE4 Remake.
@@jimmythegamer2231 True, but while Separate Ways was only like 10 bucks, Atlus is known to be skeevy about their DLC pricing. We'll see, I suppose.
Well, that's at least good. As controversial as The Answer can be, it is important because any time P3 characters make future appearances, you can see how they've grown because of The Answer.
I know it's a far out hope, but it would be cool to get FeMC as well. Granted, it is kind of unreasonable given the scale of what FeMC is.
I just started playing persona 3 reload. I've beaten the other two versions and love this game inside and out. The remake is so good so far.
Except the censored content.
One version of the Japanese version of Persona 3 FES is called the "Append" version (the one with all of the social links on the cover) which just has "The Answer" and the additional FES content, which requires you to own base Persona 3 in order to play. The other one is the complete version of FES, which is what ended up getting localized in the west.
Can you please give more details on this, like the differences between west and japanese version please?
@@EkleipsisTMfrom what i understand well the append version needs the original copy so its basically a dlc before dlc is a thing
I'm so glad that you're doing a video on Persona 3 FES, Matty. I still have my own copy and it's signed by Yukari, (Michelle Ruff) Mitsuru, (Tara Platt) and Makoto Yuki (Yuri Lowenthal) aka the male protag of P3.
That’s freaking awesome dude!
@@FoxHoundUnit90 Ikr? It was such an honor to meet the guy because I'm a fan of his work. Also his wife Tara, was Elizabeth in the game. Igor's assistant in the velvet room.
The tactics system works fine. You just have to work with it instead of against it.
I got into the Persona series in a weird way. I started with Persona 3: Dancing in Moonlight, just because I occasionally enjoy rhythm games and liked the music. Then I felt that I knew a lot about the characters by the end of it, and I was on a 3DS craze at the time so I next played Persona Q (using the P3 protagonist). I loved that game, so naturally I decided I go back and play P3FEZ (which I just picked up from the PS3 store, since I was against owning consoles back then that didn't have a HDMI port, although I have a RetroTINK now so I'm past that phase lol).
Despite what everyone says, the thing that struck me the most was how easy the game was. Coming from Persona Q which really tested your memory and problem solving skills, FEZ just didn't feel challenging by comparison. So long as you remember to cover weaknesses for the other characters when selecting gear, and remember to ensure that you always have a Persona to cover every enemy type (and preferably with a combination of being able to target one at a time or all enemies to reduce SP drain), at no point did I find it difficult.
Yes there were a few cheap kills in The Answer, but there's always that risk/reward scenario at play where you have to wonder if you should turn back before you reach your limit, or see if you can push on until the next return point. This was a minor frustration at a few points, but definitely not what I would classify as difficult. I never felt like I was hitting a wall (although this would have just been the default difficulty setting, whatever that is). If you want "difficult", go play the final boss at the end of Octopath Traveller without looking up a guide to know in advance that you need all characters evenly levelled. I thought that was hell actually (it took me 3 long attempts to beat and lots of grinding), and P3FEZ is child's play in comparison (but way more interesting IMO too).
Regarding controllable characters, there is a menu option where you can give orders to characters to focus on defence, do non-stop attacks, etc. You can't tell Mitsuru to quit with the Marin Karin "magic" attacks, but you can tell her to focus on Knock Down physical attacks instead. I think this is actually a great aspect of the game, because it's more realistic. The protagonist doesn't have mind control abilities, so I think that being able to control every character would take me a bit out of the experience. Sometimes the character actions surprise and even impress you.
I've never played Persona 5. I'll get to it one of these days (probably retirement when I can spare another 100+ hours). For now I'm happy with the story from the manga and anime.
"I've been waiting for this!"
Damn right Akihiko me too😊
Watchin this while playing reload 🙏
As a big smt and persona fan this game was perfect because it had great elements from both
It’s persona 3 reload day it’s finally fucking here. Loved the original when I was younger cant wait to start reload
This was my fav version for sure, glad to see a video on it 👍
Persona 3 narrative and character wise is my favorite one, the themes in this game are so heavy and the execution is so INCREDIBLE! 💙
no way a persona 3 video?? honestly as a huge persona 3 fan it makes me so happy to see it in the limelight again, and to see a vid made on the game that started it all for me makes me feel happy too. I'm glad u said sorry to us fuuka fans as well lol. tysm for making this video 🙌
this man's timing is immaculate
10:10 P3 retail originally came in a bigger sleeve with a soundtrack and art book. The info and art that would typically be on the back of the case was on the back of the outer box, because you couldn’t see the game case inside the packaging when it was sealed.
The P3 FES version with the same art as the manual is the Append edition which is basically like an expansion disc to the first game which let people who bought Persona 3 get the FES content without having to spend more money, while the other one is the whole game with FES all in one disc.
The Append version is only available in Japan where they sell both the Append and Normal version. Other countries gets the normal version only.
I played Persona 3 FES back when it first came out and bounced off hard. Everybody was saying how good it was but I just didn't get it. I was weary of playing 4 after that but I did and loved it. The same for 5. So I always thought of 3 as the one that got away. So now I have a second chance with Reload. Can't wait to play it.
Man the art for the og persona 3 ps2 copy is amazing
Literally just picked this and 4 up
I have the original persona 3 release that comes with an artbook and soundtrack cd. I remember reading about it in a magazine before it came out. I was in high school back then and being edgy and emo was all the craze so the way of summoning your persona was super interesting.
Regarding social links, I think 10 steps/ranks is a good amount for party members but other social links should cap out at 5. You're not forging the same lifelong bonds with them as you are your more direct friends in these games, so it feels a bit silly to have this long drawn out bonding process. Trimming these down could also allocate more dev resources into the quality and presentation of the main party member social links.
Persona fes was my first persona, I really dig the story, Its the darkest of the 3, but Tartartus was such grind. On one hand it makes the final boss feel really earned, I felt exhausted after beating the game. So in that way it was a negative thing, because I was done with jrpgs for awhile, but its a positive too, it felt really, like an accomplishment. My biggest gripe of course was not just the grim reaper or only being able to save every ten floors, but not being able to control the other members of the party. Especially when they have it, so that if your character dies its game over. So when you need to be healed but junpeis health is slightly lower than mc, she'll heal junpei, but if junpei dies he can be revived, if mc dies its game over. So she should be prioritizing mc, but she doesn't she prioritizes whoever has the lower health. Its been years and years since I last played it. I'm really excited to see what reloaded did to improve, a flawed yet already really good game.
As a Fuuka fanboy, you hurt my feelings on this one Matty 😭😭
Good job man now I am your new subscriber.
Nice review😊❤
I bought it years ago on PS3 but I haven’t played it yet. Gotta keep a few gems tucked away for a rainy day cause it’s rare we get true works of passion these days.
What a coincidence I just went back to this series.. Been playing P5R all morning.. I have the PSP version of P3.. Just got the new tactics one which is really good.. I hope the new P3 makes it to Switch at some point
I’m pretty sure P3P is on switch
@@imerebus When I said psp version I meant on the actual psp
The green in FES manual must be because of the Dark Hour
Recently found ps fes for the ps2 and im gonna play the answer after i finish reload.
Lol have fun on the floor
I'm fully expecting them to do DLC or another rerelease with The Answer and the female protagonist. Because I really enjoyed my playthrough with the FeMC and I want to experience that with the new graphics. Regardless, I'm still going to pick up reload because I'm trash.
FeMC absolutely deserves to be experienced in HD graphics. I'll be a simp and buy her DLC if it comes 😭
Lol I'm playing both Reload and FES right now lol
this game will allways be my favourite its almost perfect
MARIN KARIN!
Persona 3 is and probably always will be my favorite in the series, and who knows, maybe Atlus will give us the Answer and FemC as DLC for Reload, it'd make more sense than doing another full release of the game.
The FES theme is green because it's the Dark Hour. The answer basically entirely takes place during the dark hour
I believe the green color in the FES Manuel is to reference to The Dark Hour. During which it is a primary color.
PS3 FES might be one of my favorite RPGs of all time, the fact that I’m playing a fully remade remake as we speak is insane and such a gift to us, I literally bought my copy for PS5 even though I have game pass on my PC, as a thank you. Atlus, we salute you 🙏🏼
Have you felt the new script is a downgrade compared to FES? I find Junpei very corny now and Yukari is like a new person entirely
@@MC_Hammerpantsjunpei is great, yukari is still a bitch
This game is peak
Holy crap, someone who doesn’t shit on The Answer!?
still the definitive edition of this game
I've been hearing about upcoming dlc for the FES content
If you want to play Persona 3 FES (or P3 in general) the PS2 emulation with heavy modding is the way to go.
Awesome
Incase you didn't know about the base PS2 version of Persona 3, it doesn't have anything on the back because thats the Collectors Edition version that would have come in its own box. The normal retail version has a different box art with white silhouettes of the 3 characters.
I hope they add female protag
Playing the new one and I’m about 8 hours in. I like it, but it doesn’t make the OG obsolete. It’s a different experience and in this instance , I’d have liked to have a simple port of the original so I won’t lose it when my old consoles inevitably die. I have a ps2 copy and a digital copy on my ps3. Ps3 will die first. It was making noise last time….
If all else fails, the emulated version of works flawlessly and will never go away, so you've always got that option.
In p3 reload you can control your party directly
So apparently the other version that you have is called an "Append Edition" and basically it allows for users that already had P3 on its original disc to be able to access the FES contents without having to buy the game again. I'm guessing this edition had a lower sale price at the moment of release. Interesting!
The Append Edition is only in Japan where they sell both the Append Edition and Normal Edition. Other countries get the normal edition only since Append isn't a thing outside of Japan.
You gotta throw me a fair one talking about my baby Fukka like that my boy
why am i getting Todd Howard hair vibes with Matty...
The reason why the back cover of the first Persona 3 PS2 copy has no information is because the game came in a slipcase with an artbook. The back of the slipcase has the typical information about the game. Which is why the game itself doesn't have any, since it would be redundant.
Persona 3 Fes for pcsx2 can and should be modded for a better experience
I wish he talked about Strega and what there goal is
I first played the original version of the game in 2007 and loved the game. Nothing else was like it. I also beat FES and loved it and then played 4 and 5. Not the biggest fan of the answer tbh lol
is good to see everyone is having fun playing p3 reload while my copy of limited box version arrived and cant play it on day 1 because they send all the south east asia region people a chinese copy instead of an english copy of the game. my day is ruined.
The best neo Persona
It’s the 2nd best P4 characters are better
Actually just installing FES + HD Mod, because I could not bare to play the Remake anymore.
The remake looks amazing, but it really destroyed so much of the game for that I'd rather play the original.
The script in Reload is a huge downgrade from FES. I'd say about 30% of the dialog has been changed. I can't stand Junpei and Yukari anymore knowing how interesting their dynamic and personalities used to be
The Reload script is more accurate. It's an upgrade. Subs not dubs are your friend.
@@24hr-Gaming I find it interesting that so many people are parroting "the new script is more accurate" when they themselves cannot read Japanese. Nor have they ever played the Japanese version
@@24hr-Gaming The English texts in Reload is the one for dub version. While the script is more accurate, playing in Japanese voice is not gonna 100% match with the texts. For example, playing in Japanese voice, Isako Toriumi will say she is Y-Ko but the texts will say she is Maya.
Eh I still think the FES: The Answer version is still better.
Persona F3SP for switch 2 just to get the answer and femc
Portable I couldn't get over how stripped down the game was compared to FES. Running around does feel clunky at first but by the end when you go through the city one last time and talk to everyone, that's a mood. The world in P3 does feel small, but that smallness makes you not want to leave at the end. P5 is really huge with Tokyo, but Tokyo is both so huge and in so many games that I didn't feel as attached as Iwatodai or Inaba.
Also how they did fusion spells in P3P sucks. You're not playing P3 if you're not running around nuking everything with Armageddon. It really sells Makoto as someone who's just built different. Yu can't do that. Joker can't do that. But Makoto is just different. But I can understand that fusion spells are just too busted which is why I like how Reload did them. They are flashy and they're cool but they don't invalidate your party which was a pretty big drawback in FES.
Why haven't they remade Persona 2 (both parts) yet?!
*And as far as I know you can, if you have a ps3, still buy FES cheap digitally. But you need to put money in your wallet and then get on your ps3 and buy it. I picked up a few classics last year like that.
I have it digitally on PS3 but there's one problem the game has a glitch that was never fixed once you get to the 5th full moon boss the game just stops working people complained but like I said it was never patched/fixed😢
I have odd feelings about this game. On one hand, I adore it. Maybe not nearly as much as I adore Persona 4, but this was still one I was willing to play many times over as a teen. On the other hand, I feel it's very flawed, even despite ones I think only add to the charm. And frankly, this is still going to be the best version of Persona 3 for me with the changes made to the remake.
I actually first played Persona 4 without direct commands, so I was used to it for Persona 3 FES, but I can definitely get why others would feel off about it. Though what really got me in the gameplay was the pacing. Skipping much of summer for arbitrary reasons was one thing, but also having a period of absolutely no Tartarus access and very few SLs make late game play very, very slow.
The voice performances in this game probably don't hold up like they used to, but I enjoy them very well and have appreciated how they've grown over the years. The obvious highlights are Yukari and Junpei, and while Fuuka and Ikutsuki are understandably wooden, I find the performances very charming. But this is from someone who enjoyed Arc Rise Fantasia in English, if you've heard that dub before. Even if much of the voice cast has not returned in future iterations already, replacing the main cast entirely for Reload feels like a cheap mistake.
The soundtrack is great, but I'll never forgive the existence of Changing Seasons. It sucks, it's annoying, and it appears too frequently.
The only other thing that bothered me, and this is more of a nitpick, is the "potential" part of the Persona awakening. I can get it for cases like Yukari who have a deep connection to the Kirijo incident, same with Ken, but it feels like nothing more than an excuse with Junpei. I think it's better handled when given more consistent purpose in 4 & 5, but it's not the end of the world.
Overall, it's a flawed game that I still love. Even over P4 in terms of the final boss and even finding a certain villain more compelling than the culprit in 4. And even over P5 in terms of actual storytelling and arguably characters. I just need to bring myself to beat the Answer sometime.
It's kinda difficult to see your point going backwards in the franchise
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I think it's unfair to say P3R is incomplete, not because it lacks The Answer, but because it lacks FemC.
Let's put the points in the table here and analyze the whole thing:
1 - The Answer is an epilogue that explains what the fuck happened to the MC after the main game. Necessary but also extremelly necessary to be enhanced because it was annoying to play, it can't be there Day 1, it's easier to release it as DLC.
2 - FemC was clearly a new character pitched as an extra to give people a reason of playing P3P since P3P threw away the whole 3D and anime envrtionments of the game. It's easier to add her since it's only one 3D sprite (hers), a few 2D sprites for the new SL's and re-using the original sprites from the male SEES members with a few "shy " models.
So, before I go on why it's unfair to say P3R is not complete and lacking stuff, let me explain why I think they wont be adding her as DLC, and if they ever do, it will be as a full damn release:
1 - Half of the current team is made by old fans of the OG Persona 3. The old fans usually don't like FemC given what she can do to the story. Imagine JK Rowling releases a whole HP: Gender Bending series, where Harry is now Rose lilly Potter or something like this, and instead of bein a depressed girl who is always fucked up by her family, she's still on the same boat as Harry was, with cousin trying to fuck her up, etc, but she takes every single situation on a brighter light, so she's twice as sassy as Harry but also, twice as smart too, most of the plot points that happens because Harry is stupid, won't because instead of chosing Ron as her best friend, she will choose the smart girl where she sees herself in the most, so instead of being stupid and not reading the fucking letter her godfather gives her, that's the first thing she does when she gets at Hogwarts on Year 5. This literally makes sure Sirius stays alive for the sixth book. She then, find a way to save Dumbledore because since she's smart and actually studies, she also knows already by Year 6 how to counter spells without saying loud words but she plays along with Dumbledore instead of just moving right away and she's able to protect him, for example. Or that somehow she's able to protect one of the Twins to die and so on. Imagine all of the important plot deaths that happens not happening anymore because you have a smarter, more in-depth with reallity girl, who literally ignores all of the bad things around her and only focus on the good aspects, and because of that she's able to see things without grief fucking her vision. I would hate that, because it's unreallistic. And I think the Devs of P3 literally thinks the same. FemC can: Date a child (No, she can literally START a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with a 10 year old kid, she doesnt make friends with a kid by playing with them and then let that be platonic, she dates him). Make one of the characters that have a bit character development because of another to fall with her so you can never see him have his happy ending with the person he loves because you wanted to date him, can make another character NOT die, and so on. She can literally undo most of the character Development or change the plot points. She's essentially a happy person who tackles depression in a brighter way, never feeling down, even if she has the exact same past as MC. And I think that's why Atlus don't like her as a character because the message of the game gets distorted from the way they wanted to tell it.
2 -Adding FemC was easier on P3P than it is on P3R: She needs - A sprite, animations unique to her, all of her Social Links modeled in 3D and 2D, all of the cutscenes need to be re-done with her instead of MC, a whole new opening just to insert her there, a whole UI change because her theme is Pink instead of Blue, and a whole new script to change pronoums AND for her social links, even the male sees members needs more sprites now. That alone would make a whole new game and they would sell it as a whole new Release.
3 - FemC is not necessary to tell the P3 story so I doubt they will add it.
Now, what we have on P3R that I checked while playing, and why I think it's unfair to say P3R is not definitive just because of the lack of one feature (which is FemC), since the Answer will be released later as DLC:
1 - P3P wa sbetter than P3F in two aspects: Fast Travel, and Tartarus/Battle mechanics being enhanced. You could travel super fast, while you could control your party, create persona's easier, have new objectives in Tartarus to save people. have the same P4 battle effects and rule and so on. While most of the mechanics from P3F were removed tobalance the game: Persona Fusion Spells became items, most of the animatons where toned down because of the PSP, but you could also find Skill Cards now, and make your persona's build easier. You could also copy those cards too. P3F was better than P3P in presentation, animations and so on. Graphically P3F was better, Tartarus looked better and with more effects, but the game was slower and harder. P3R has all of this: You can walk and enjoy the whole 3D map at your own pace, but once you visit them you can fast travel to every single corner of the world, the presentation is flawless, the battles in Tartarus are fun, you can control your party members, Fusion Spells are now Theurgy abilities that you need to charge to use instead of spam withSP instead, so they are not One Win buttons or Items to buy, you have more of Tartarus to explore, the rooms are more varied and interesting to search, and there's no sound problems with the music either. The Skill Cards are present in this game, but also P4G features are added such as selecting Persona Skills, and P4G rules of battle (that are also on P4 and P5) are also here so status ailments are here too, even the newones from P5, you even have Ligh and Dark abilities that are usable instead of only one-hit kill that can fail. So you can explore Dark and Light weakness now. Every single enhancement of gameplay on P3P and P4G and P5 is here. In the overworld the game will now tell when you can engage with Social Links even the ones you don't know yet, a feature from P5 and P5R. P3R have essentially all of the enhancements added so far to it's gameplay.
2 - The Answer will be added as a DLC.
3 - The game still has the DLC stuff such as Personas and Costumes, but it also has some of the core P3F and P3P features which is to find equipment that changes your appearance in Tartarus.
4 - There are more dialogue in Tartarus too.
5 - All of the visual enhancements from P4 and P5 about Social Links are also here, so you don't have long ass messages that takes forever to tell you your current rank with a character.
6 - All of the Persona 5 slick menus are here too.
Again, gameplay-wise, P3R got way more love than P3F and P3P, and all of the better stuff from P3P is here besides FemC. If there are gamers still salty about her not wanting to buy the game because of her, then their only reason for liking and playing p3p was her, and not the so called enhancements they kept boasting around that P3F didn't had.
I don't think it's fair for P3R to say it's incomplete because it lacks a character that was never tailored thinking of the story itself, but was made as a last resource for people to buy the portable game, and because of that, they decided to go wild with her. I'm sorry guys but Grooming is Grooming, it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman who does it. SHe's a 16 year old girl who can date a 10 year old boy. That's how whacky they decided to be with her route. If they add her in the future, that would be cool, I agree, but saying P3R is not definitve because it lacks her is giving way more importance to a random fan-made character rather than the original intended story and that's what ATLUS has been showing to us forever.
P3D doens't add FemC, nor her music. PQ2 adds her and makes sure to say no one knows her saynig she's from another universe.
But want a better example?
Imagine that, in 20 years from now, Atlus re-released Persona 5 Re-Royalize or someshit, and people gets mad because Persona 5 Re Remake lacks the new characters from P5X. A mobile game that is clearly messing with Multiple Timelines, even making you play as this new group in the same situation as the Phantom Thieves. It mayt be a fun story and the new character may add more Social Links and even add the possibility to date the guys on your party too, but he's not the character intended for the main story, no matter how cool it is to play with him. I think the excess love for how sassy FemC is and how fun it is to have her is clouding a lot of people's judgement about P3R and the reasons why she's not there, both technical and personal for the team. And I think it's unfair with that game saying it's not comlpete because of her alone. IF this game was more like P3F I would accept the argument but this new game is actually the mix of everything that makes the next entries better. So you can't say the mechanics are bad anymore. Now the complain is: Boo-hoo I can't date Akihiko without feeling Gay anymore (for the male persona gamers), the girls I understand tho, it's annoying to not have representation in protagonists, the only case being P2 EP. So I can see why you as a woman feels better represented by FemC, but still, she's not an essential character for Persona 3 just as the new protagonist of P5X is not essential toP5 as a whole.
Bro wrote a whole ass essay in the comment section 😂
P3 FES on hard mode is probably one of the hardest SMT games out there simply because you can't control your entire party directly.
Reload being censored is a big nope.
Speak of Portable with the PC version theirs mods that fixes the issues with the portable version.
Oooooh you have 5 versions and dont have the special edition boxed set with the soundtrack and the art book. I got it on a whim on Kmart not knowing what it was. That one is a real unboxing cause it has stuff to unbox. I might be willing to part with it fot the right price. Its mint condition, got the persona 4 one also. I hate people that cr#p on P3 cause they played Royal first, without P3 you wouldnt have your precious P5 Royal, real fans dont do that. People who just say Royal this and that, and cr#p on the rest are just people who are following a fad. Heck, if you just play persona and no other SMT games you still are followking a Fad
3 dorm song kinda annoying but rest good 😂
is there spoilers cuz im playin this rn
It's a remake of the original, of course there's spoilers lol. The original game is 16 years old.
I recently got into the Persona series. played 3-5 in reverse order. IMO P3 has the best social links by far. And I actually didn't mind not having full control of the party, it put a unique spin on the combat. Everything about "The Answer" was completely terrible though.
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Played the first few hours of P3R last night and not really vibing with it so far. Coming off P4 and P5R it just feels like doing the same things all over again with an ever so slightly different coat of paint... Tartarus is also a real snooze fest. Granted it pre-dates both those games and I think it would have been a great game to play first in sequence(or back when it was originally released) but playing it now for the first time after p4, p5, p5r it doesnt have the same pull for me to sign up for another 100hrs. Looking forward to Metaphor and how they shake things up with different setting.
40-50 hours???? It took me 80 for the journey
FES is still better than Reload. At least the game is somewhat challenging
If you say that in Persona subreddit, you are gonna get kill.
I haven't play Persona 3 yet so no spoilers please but i wish Persona 3 Reload had FemC, i always heard she had the best route
Eh her route is more so catered to being a NG+ route. Not a fan of certain changes in story elements. It was only really implemented to compensate for a lack of content, a lot of people who like FeMC say it for her soundtrack, which will almost definitely be DLC in the future as well.
Femc isn't that important shes basically just a ng+ character with a few different social links P3 is still just makotos story
Yeah personally her route was my favorite because she had way better social links. She's not a ng+ character for me because I prefer playing female protagonists in general, so going back to the male mc in reload just feels weird lol
She has new exclusive Social Links, which are 10x better than the originals. She’s a lot of peoples first experience into P3, so calling her a NG+ character feels disingenuous.
@@SteelSpurs She’s literally designed to be a NG+ character, when you load a new game on portable Makoto is treated as the way to play “the original P3 story” while Kotone is said to be for those “already familiar with P3”. It doesn’t get more clear than that, she’s meant for people to get more content for future playthroughs. People who chose her as a starting character have to understand that fact, regardless of your opinion. It’s fine to like her more than Makoto, but her purpose in portable is very clear
Couldnt get to my remote in time. Ruined the ending for me. Lesson learned. Never watching another vid you do.