Favorite part of the movie for me, i just couldnt help but think after that moment how could the writers get this so so right like this. Just incredible
On paper this film shouldn't work, it has everything stacked against it: huge number of villians, multiple plot threads, large cast etc. I am so impressed with how they stuck the landing in this film and gave closure, not just for the MCU spider-man films, but to Spider-man franchise across the board. Definitely the best quality [live action] spider-man we've gotten, I can't wait to see what they do with Spider-man next; he isn't a "..kid" anymore.
It's insane, it also took on the task of closing two other runs by two other main actors. This has disaster written all over it, but man did they pull it together.
@@gleekthemonkey4570 it made me think Spider-Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 2 where they tried to do the multi-villain thing and it was a train wreck. So to see this one pull both those series, as well as have its own story together I thought couldve been too much, but it worked in the best possible way.
@@JigInsane the bad guys barely do anything at all though lol they have 2 action scenes and the scene at the end…….like what do they actually do most the film
@@prestonscott8214 I think thats what helps it. They aren't trying to do to much. They do enough to get ppl up to speed with them, and have some sort of purpose towards the end, built from the dialog portions earlier in the film. Lizard may have gotten the shortest end of the stick though, then Sandman. Lizard mostly, but I think if they had them do more, the movie would need to be longer and might have run into a situation of feeling like it's doing too much. What I did really like, and the theater kinda cheered a bit, is when Jamie Foxx insinuates Miles Morales while talking to Garfield.
The fact they managed to make over 20 years of Spider-Man movies pay off in a satisfying way is amazing. I hope they stick with this type of tone in the future because it really sets the stakes well and makes the world believable.
It's possible Otto just figured out that Norman was the Goblin even though it wasn't public knowledge. The two were acquaintances and I'm sure Otto was aware of the Oscorp glider and just pieced it together.
Andrew Garfield was so incredible as his sad, near broken Spider-Man. His heart in trying to help save our Peter not go down his road as well as how absolutely his genuine happiness just radiated out of him to suddenly be surrounded by people who understood him was the soul of this movie as he represented what our Peter could become if he let his grief consume him.
Lot of people say this movie is fan service. And yes, you are right. But I think this movie also celebrates Spider-man movies good and bad. The movie is not cynical. It embrace the mistakes, but also what made the characters great. It was very well researched. Even the plot holes you said, there are explanations for those. The movie just worked.
@@Darwinfeeshy that s the plot hole dude octavious confirm that norman is dead and sandman confirms even in that time no one but peter and bernard knew that the goblin was norman
@@jonhconner1191 Assuming that it is all based on the movies exactly, but if this makes the movie bad to you, that sucks. It is obvious it is different timelines because the Spiderman are older.
SPOILER - do not read any more if you haven't seen the film and don't want it spoiled. But man, that first post credit scene gave me such mood whiplash lol. I was SO mad at the possibility of Tom Hardy Venom being in the MCU. But then he disappeared and I let out a legitimate SIGH OF RELIEF like a cartoon character.
YES! I like how the movie treated him like the doofus he is lol. While everyone else is fighting and saving the world, he’s still trying to get his bearings. Using that as the introduction to the symbiote in the MCU is an interesting choice but I’d rather that then have this version of Eddie Brock stay in the MCU.
@@defro125 I've been thinking about that since I saw the movie today. It really feels like Sony is backed into a corner with things now. Morbius was supposed to be out before NWH and is now taking place after all the stuff was resolved. And we know the people that were pulled to MCU were those that knew Peter Parker, and only those were sent back.... so how is Vulture there? ...is Morbius...MCU? D:
@@burnsabeast see this is why morbius is so confusing!! it CANT be in the MCU bc you see an oscorp building in the trailer. NWH confirms there is no oscorp in their universe so it can’t be the MCU as we know it. not to mention the poster of tobey’s spider suit. morbius is going to be a trash fire. i can’t wait
@@blackiemist88 it’s just so lame to not keep the people from the rewatch crews for the movie it’s leading to. It’s like having a finale that ends without two of the main characters
I enjoyed Homecoming and Far From Home, but always felt like Tom was still just a kid in a suit. When I left seeing No Way Home, I felt like Tom had truly become Spiderman, the icon, the hero I looked up to when I was a little kid. His fight for what’s right in trying to save and redeem the villains, while believing everyone deserves a second chance really hit home :) All of this topped off with his selfless, sacrificial choice in the end was so Spiderman. I think his acting and especially Zendaya’s in this was incredible and you could really feel their chemistry on screen now relative to the first two movies.
Very well said. While I love Homecoming and Far From Home, it didn’t feel like Peter was truly Spider-Man yet. By the end of this one, he is undoubtedly the iconic Spider-Man we know and love!
You're right. You're so right. Before going into this movie, I would have never understood how I could possibly see Tom Holland as more than a child. Then after the big thing right before the very end, I couldn't imagine more Spider-Man movies because this child needed his support system, which are *SPOILERS* now all gone. It was really the last 15 minutes that cemented in my brain that Peter Parker is an adult and that lets my brain see Tom as one too. Now I can't wait for more movies because this tragic Peter who tries to take it on all alone before hitting that low point and bouncing back is my favorite Peter Parker and I can't wait to see Tom Holland mature through that role more.
The ultimate moment of this in review is the hand off of plot from Greg to Nick. As a long time kinda funny fan seeing Nick being just as good as Greg at the plot and hosting is so cool.
Jesus Christ what an episode. I mean the movie was phenomenal but I swear this in review was just as good. First off, holy fucking shit Cameron Kennedy. That intro was fantastic. Also, Nick the hair looks amazing ! But you guys had me dying the entire episode. I missed you so much Greg
Garfield’s performance was brutal. Got me every single time. Dafoe’s was brilliant as green goblin, how he changes his face to look like. Madman is scary af.
Something that I thought was super interesting in the mirror dimension scene when peter realizes that it is geometry is that it calls back to the first Thor movie when Thor is telling Jane that magic and science are one in the same.
The fact that these three movies was the ENTIRE arc for Tom Holland going from a kid thrust into the hero world to wanting to live up to his hero’s standards to finally becoming his own hero as Spider-Man. I cried, laughed, smiled and felt so much of the “it really sucks to be Spider-Man” that the hero stands for. What a film and what a endcap/jumping off point for this character.
The mid-credit scene - seems like a nod to secret wars, where the symbiote attaches to the Spider-man in the original Secret Wars event. Containment spell - the Spell Dr Strange uses to contain the spell is the same that we see in What If, used to contain the two individuals at the end of the series.
Yes, and the trailer for Dr strange shows the same strange from what if.... might be the intro of Captain Carter or someone else, I don't wanna get ahead of myself though.
Prediction for a future film: Making use of his latent magical ability, Ned will be able to break through the spell and remember Peter through the use of the handshake.
I thought Kevin would love the mid-credits scene. It was basically a rug pull of, "Oh, you thought this Sonyverse stuff was coming to the MCU? Nope." The symbiote left behind seems to imply that the MCU will do their own version of Venom that isn't awful. Edit: just watched more and saw Tim already addressed this, totally agree. It's Kevin Feige saying "no thank you" to the prospect of using Sony's Venom.
The question is, why bother with all that effort and coordination, you don’t need your symbiote to come from another universe. I don’t think we’ll get a MCU Venom for a while either way, there will probably be an entire movie (or more if there’s crossover shenanigans) with the black suit before they have a Venom.
Well, Venom is awful and to date, MCU is pretty great and tonally consistent with its characters. No thank you to Sony's Venom indeed. Tom Hardy is probably top 5 actors for me and even he couldn't make that tripe watchable.
When Tim mentioned the Spider-Man PS4 move in the Spoiler-free review, I had so many cool combos and possible moves running through my mind. I couldn't even comprehend the idea that they would include one of his combo finishers and to do it so brutally on the balcony! It was *chef's kiss*! More gaming moments in films/movies please!!!
That wasn’t the only one though, the move Peter did to him in the first fight where he uses his webs to slam his feet into Goblin through a floor was another one. Both of them are general Spidey moves though, not necessarily from the game, even if the game was what inspired them to incorporate them. The bigger homage was the FEAST shelter and the gravestone.
I'd love to see an Amazing Spider-Man 3 where Andrew Garfield comes out retirement, moves on from his lost love with a female cat thief and fights Bane, I mean, Venom
I love we got the im something of a scientist myself line. Also seeing matt murdock even for only a few minutes was so hype. But one of my favourite moments was andrews moment with mj. Don't normally tear up but that got me honestly. Was an amazing film, this could easy be number 1 for me.
This got me a few times. The Uncle Ben talk gets me every time. Andrew’s catch gets me every time. And then I’m just smiling most of the way through. It really is like a dream come true. Unreal.
Man I loved this movie. I love how they kept the focus on the main MCU cast as the emotional core but gave us all the Easter eggs and callbacks. Top 3 MCU movie
Kevin... FIXING THE CHAIR at the theater moments before he's about to see the biggest movie of the goddamn year... IS SUCH A KEVIN ASS STORY. Amazing. Fucking love this entire crew.
"Did you see the new Spider-Man movie?" "No, why?" "Tobey's back!" "What about it? Is it STILL hurting? It's been twenty years, the man needs to see a chiropractor."
Theres a point in this episode where they go on so many side tangents one after another that I genuinely thought I was listening to the Kinda Funny podcast and got completely thrown when they started recapping the plot again
They didn't mention it, but as far as an easter egg goes, I think I saw Hank Pym and Howard Stark in a mural inside the high school. It was in the staircase right before the scene with the teachers.
I just want to know who the fuck threw that brick, weren't they on like the 4th-5th floor or something like that? Because that thing came flying through the window like they were on the ground level.
It’s completely possible. That would be a great detail to add and fiege did say that phase four will be simultaneously interconnected between shows and movies.
As a big spiderman fan, seeing all three spidermans fighting multiple villains from the trilogies just blew my mind. Can't believe they actually did it.
Think Greg misinterpreted MJ asking Garfield if he was ok. Wasn't because she knew about the inner turmoil, she was surprised to see him acting that way and didn't know why he was sad
All I can say for this film is “finally.” This was the MCU Spidey movie I’ve been begging for. Finally, some emotional depth and maturity that’s been lacking from this iteration. Jon Watts stepped it up in every way. MCU Spidey finally has some amazing and memorable action scenes. The Goblin fight scenes were so visceral, brutal, horrific, and just left me in awe. The goddamn score!! I like Holland’s theme because it recreates the classic theme, but before now they never used it in this epic, operatic way similar to Elfman’s score that just continued to give me chills. The fucking Spider-men was a dream come true. I couldn’t believe the movie I was watching was real. The dialogue between them is so effortless, organic, and so emotional that it brought me to tears. The details is what made it for me, like Tobey saying the Chrysler building is his place to escape (from the first movie after Ben passed). Each character from the past was brought back in such a great way, with actual arcs rather than gloried cameos and fan service. This film is an absolute love letter to Spider-Man and I cannot believe it exists.
For the most part I agree about the villains, but Sandman and Lizard really didn't need to be in it. They didn't get the same love as Norman, Otto, and Max.
I think Dr Strange's behavior lines up perfectly with how he acted with Thor in Ragnarok. He didn't explain to Thor all the intricacies of the spell. He just did research and went to action. He did the same here, but Peter kept changing the variables.
I laughed, I cheered, I cried (literally). What a fantastic movie. Top 3 MCU for me (at #3 on my list), and my favorite Spider-Man movie (this is saying a lot, I adore Into the Spider-Verse). They pulled it off. They did it. They made it work so well. Bravo. My only nitpicks are around some of the writing (Sandman’s motivation, etc) and not understanding where the direction is heading for the future. The end-credit scene confused me a little. Edit: ouch, Greg
@@ANTIStraussian I respect opinions but I’m starting to questioning “some” peoples opinions regarding the film. Whatever criticism you had towards MCU Spider-Man prior to NWH-This film fixed that. If you STILL don’t like MCU Spidey after this film, I don’t know what to say. I think you just hate this character in general. One of the most authentic Spider-Man media out there.
Can we have a third an Amazing Spiderman movie now that's overseen by Disney that follows the events of this movie (electro being alive for example), where venom is in the same universe (he did say that he wanted to go to NY to meet with Spiderman) and opens the possibility of Andrew Garfield coming back to the MCU
I get it, they hate tobey for whatever reason, but theyre gonna really sit there and say he wasnt expressing so much emotion when stopping Tom. He knows how far gone Peter can get lost if he kills, and wants to save him from what he lived in turning to the dark. That potential sacrifice from goblin still stabbing someone who saved him is what changed Tom’s Peter to save Norman. I get it, they’re mad not as many liked the Tasm movies, but damn
. . . . . . . . . . 2:03:22 "So, this is your plan, Peter? Hm? No lab, no facilities, just performing miracles in a condominium? Hm? What, are you going to cook up some cures in frozen burritos in a microwave?" "I could go for a burrito." "He's gonna kill us all!"
The Lizard and Sandman don't die fighting Spider-Man in their movies and Doc Ock had regained control over the arms right before his death which is why I don't believe they were pulled (or not all were pulled) as they were literally about to die (like Norman with the glider) just at a moment before their death.
1:24:59. Go watch the Screen Junkies Honest Trailer commentary for Far From Home. They have Toni Revolori there and he talks about it. That scene was improvised by him. His father was supposed to be the one to pick up Flash at the airport but Toni talked to Jon Watts the night before they shot the scene and convinced him it would be funnier if his parents didn't show up. His home life was not written that way; it was just a comedic choice.
Greg should do a Heels season in review. For the next movie I can see the villain be Mr. Negative in charge of Feast and that would give Peter the emotional turmoil for Venom to take control for a MCU Venom story arc.
I think that we are meant to believe that the villains were dragged into the MCU just after they realized that Spiderman was Peter Parker: for Norman/Goblin, it was after that Thanksgiving scene, for Doc Ock, not 100%, for Sandman, it was at the end of Spiderman 3, for Dr. Conners/Lizard, it was before the school fight scene and for Electro, it was right before his death. So I think the only ones who would have died immediately after being sent back would have been Doc Ock and Electro. At least that's what I took from the film.
It's implied that both green goblin and doc ock identities are public after their death. Sandman literally said he saw them in the news "Goblin died impaled by his glider and couple months later Ock drowned in the river"
Willhem Dafoe was such a cartoon in the Raimi movie but man in this one he just nails this character of a split personality with his Norman side being so incredibly sympathetic as a mentally unwell person at his rock bottom pleading for help and his Goblin side being so insane and batshit evil.
1:07:53 I paused to go listen to the theme song from succession because I’ve never watched the show and HOLY SHIT it friggin SLAPS! So much bass… and sleigh bells
LETS GOO!!! In Review is literally PART of the MCU for me. It’s all part of what I love and what I get hype for. I get excited for a movie, I get excited for the in review. Thank you all so much for another year of content. Favourite channel on the entire internet ❤️
I think Electro not knowing Garfield’s face but being affected by the spell is likely explained by Electro’s team up with Harry in ASM2. Harry could’ve told him Spidey was Peter Parker (maybe even on screen, I don’t remember) and that wouldn’t really mean much to Max, nor would he know what he looks like.
I miss you guys. Hope you are enjoying vacation. Due to not having new kinds funny content coming in daily I may have listened to this episode like 20 times on podcasts
As much as I do think a lot of the bad decisions in Spider-Man movies over the years were his doing, the Avi Arad tribute feels 100% like a Kevin Feige choice because Feige's a good dude that would pay tribute to one of the people who gave him his start and has been associated with Marvel since the early 90s. We tend to associate Arad with Spider-Man mostly, but he founded Marvel Studios - at the time called Marvel Films - and he started producing for them with X-Men The Animated Series. I'm sure as soon as we get X-Men in the MCU we see a tribute to Lauren Shuler Donner in the credits for the same Feige connection reasoning.
I thought it was a really interesting thing to include in the credits… and you’re right that we usually associate Avi Arad with being the one that drove the Spider-Man franchise into the ground. Props to Kevin Feige for adding that in there.
I haven't seen anyone talk about my favorite moment. When Doctor Strange pushes Peter's astral form out of his body, you can very faintly see his spidey sense around his head like the comics/games. I got so happy seeing that!
Tim you are so so SOOO damn right that the strange spidey fight is gonna be so underated becuase of all the crazy stuff in this movie. What a task they had in thinking how can spiderman outsmart and win a 1v1 battle with the master of mystic arts. It was fucking incredible and it was the first sign of many to come later in the movie that this movie is more than just a great excuse for a fun crossover
He exists, as his initials were shown in _Far From Home_ but he might not be anywhere near as important as he was for the Peter Parkers across the Multiverse.
Yeah, the fact that Tom's Peter barely gives any thought to when Tobey mentions Uncle Ben makes me think so. Also, Aunt May never showing any grief over Uncle Ben's passing and never even mentioning him just seems so weird. I would have liked when May says "With great power, comes great responsibility", that she says to Peter it would've been something that Ben would have said.
It's 100% true though, we wouldn't have any of these movies (the MCU and the modern superhero landscape in general, let alone Spiderman movies) if not for Avi Arad convincing studios to invest hundreds of millions of dollars not just into any superhero movie (like Blade or X-Men before it), but comic accurate ones that wear their source material on their sleeve, and end up becoming the biggest success to boot. Kevin Feige didn't decide to start/try the MCU till after Avi Arad proved what was possible with Spiderman, it is single handlely responsible for damn near everything, whether we want to like it/admit it or not. It took decades of turndowns, bad scripts, unfaithful approaches, etc before 2002 finally happened, and the same thing has already been happening for a long time with the Metal Gear Solid movie, his next big goal in properly translating a video game adaptation to the screen, of which he too will get a lot of big credit for not letting that get messed up and helping the shift for video games. It is not to say that he's perfect or anything, he obviously was responsible for making Raimi have Venom in Spiderman 3 as well as a rushed Sinister Six side-plot setup in Amazing 2, but when it comes to the behind the scenes historical impact of certain specific people, Feige and many others have laudedly regarded him as the top dog Hollywood "believer" or "fighter" for getting us to the kinds of things we want to see happen. Even those first comic movies like X-Men and Blade were low budget and/or afraid to embrace their comic heritage, even if their success helped Avi's arguments for convincing Sony on Spiderman, it was still hella risk and lots of money, and it inspired Feige to take the risk to that next level with a shared universe. This is why Kojima gave/attached his MGS movie to Avi Arad, to make sure the creative integrity of the IP isn't rushed/compromised, regardless of how long it may take. This movie put hella RESPECT on Avi's name and the salt here is real since the credits were done by Marvel Studios and most likely probably Feige's idea, not anyone from Sony. The movie itself pays so much homage both literally and metaphorically to Sony's older movies, there’s a clear love and respect for them from Marvel regardless of how anyone feels about em. Tom's Peter goes from looking up to and modeling himself after MCU characters to molding himself after his 2 Sony predecessors, and its the most true Spiderman we've gotten so far in the MCU.
If Strange can delete the memory of Peter from people’s brains, as well as purging every physical evidence of his existence (phone texts, school records, JJJ’s news reports) from the entire world, why didn’t he delete the memory of the Infinity Stones from Thanos?
Very subtle Easter Eggs I found: Tom webbing cars to the bridge like in ASM1 Tom has a cut on his cheek that looks like Tobey’s scar in the end fight. Tom has his hair styled like Andrews when he takes his mask off several times. Tobey and Andrew talking about how their relationships are complicated is a callback to Peter and Harry talking in ASM2 about how dating and Peter’s life in general is complicated. Andrew Vs Tobey might be a reference to that ASM2 ad where there’s a reflection of Spider-Man in a window that’s a Chibi Spider-Man that mimics him, but obviously the pointing meme works too. They also use more orchestral choir and horn for Tom’s spider-man theme when Tobey and Andrew joined as a way to add their theme elements to his, which I hope they carry forward.
2:31:19 - No, no, that's the youth pastor face. It's the "Hey, you need to step back and breathe, what the snot are you DOING, man? Look at yourself! This is not how we do things! That is not how this works. You need to be responsi--remember the responsibility thing? I know how much it sucks, I know how much it hurts, but this is the time for that responsibility." look. Just with their eyes, Tobey Maguire and Tom Holland managed to re-enact the entire "Dude" conversation from Baseketball.
I LOVED the nod to the common saying that Garfield is the best Spiderman and Toby is the best Peter. When Ned uses magic to say "show me Spiderman", it goes to Andrew. "Show me Peter Parker" goes to Tobey. I'm sure that was intentional but even if not, I enjoyed it Edit: sooo... this is embarrassing but just rewatched, and ya... this didn't happen. Both times Ned says show me Peter Parker. Sorry! Funny how the brain works in superfans...
@@DrPantsMD i don't think people that say that mean that he was the most accurate comic book rep, more that they just liked that version of Peter Parker. Im not in that camp, my touchstone to Spiderman was the early 90s show where Peter was a 6'3 220lb jock. I just enjoyed the nod to people that do feel that way about Tony and Andrew
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This made the entire Spider-man movie franchises stronger. Unbelievable.
100%, it treated all three Spiderman sets respectfully and pulled even more emotion out of them than i ever though possible.
Lol nah sorry cringeboy
@@verona8144 Glad you watched and enjoyed the movie. I know you're expressing your anger from something else.
@@verona8144 But guess what, I didn't diss Andrew with Amazing Spiderman 1. I knew he was a great and talented actor.
It was always strong.
The moment when Andrew Garfield’s Peter catches MJ and starts to tear up afterward hit me hard. Such a small moment that is so emotionally strong.
Just wish they didn't show that she falls in the trailer kinda gave it away
Favorite part of the movie for me, i just couldnt help but think after that moment how could the writers get this so so right like this. Just incredible
@@Tym2024_ never watched any of the trailers. Went back and watched, bruh they gave away so much
The fact he didn't use his web and caught her instead, so he wouldn't make the same mistake...
I called it from the trailer but it somehow surpassed expectations because of the moment after where MJ has to ask if he’s ok. So so good. 🥲❤️
On paper this film shouldn't work, it has everything stacked against it: huge number of villians, multiple plot threads, large cast etc. I am so impressed with how they stuck the landing in this film and gave closure, not just for the MCU spider-man films, but to Spider-man franchise across the board. Definitely the best quality [live action] spider-man we've gotten, I can't wait to see what they do with Spider-man next; he isn't a "..kid" anymore.
It's insane, it also took on the task of closing two other runs by two other main actors. This has disaster written all over it, but man did they pull it together.
On paper it’s just into the spider verse, what do you mean? Lol
@@gleekthemonkey4570 it made me think Spider-Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 2 where they tried to do the multi-villain thing and it was a train wreck. So to see this one pull both those series, as well as have its own story together I thought couldve been too much, but it worked in the best possible way.
@@JigInsane the bad guys barely do anything at all though lol they have 2 action scenes and the scene at the end…….like what do they actually do most the film
@@prestonscott8214 I think thats what helps it. They aren't trying to do to much. They do enough to get ppl up to speed with them, and have some sort of purpose towards the end, built from the dialog portions earlier in the film. Lizard may have gotten the shortest end of the stick though, then Sandman. Lizard mostly, but I think if they had them do more, the movie would need to be longer and might have run into a situation of feeling like it's doing too much. What I did really like, and the theater kinda cheered a bit, is when Jamie Foxx insinuates Miles Morales while talking to Garfield.
When Tobey tells Doc Ock "trying to do better" I was almost overwhelmed it felt really cool to see them in this movie 10/10
I wish Ock responded with "Brilliant, but lazy"
Unbelievable moment
@@SM-nc1nb no 😂😂😂
The fact they managed to make over 20 years of Spider-Man movies pay off in a satisfying way is amazing. I hope they stick with this type of tone in the future because it really sets the stakes well and makes the world believable.
It's possible Otto just figured out that Norman was the Goblin even though it wasn't public knowledge. The two were acquaintances and I'm sure Otto was aware of the Oscorp glider and just pieced it together.
sure buddy lol
@@boochtron Yeah, buddy. It's easily explainable.
@@charley15z17 so no one else could put that together? seriously? just admit the movies faults, it's okay
@@boochtron I mean he could've pieced it together because he got sucked into another universe and sees his ass there as well
@@OGgluttonoustoad no mentions it way before he saw him.
When Tobey said to doc ock the exact same line from spiderman 2 "trying to do better" I got so emotional. Gosh what a movie
PLEASE never stop telling theatre stories on these. “Can you believe they’ve been making moves for 100 years?” 😂
It’s an outrageous statement! - Greg
@@kindafunny I’m butthurt that KF didn’t like my comment
I need a time stamp for this
Andrew Garfield was so incredible as his sad, near broken Spider-Man. His heart in trying to help save our Peter not go down his road as well as how absolutely his genuine happiness just radiated out of him to suddenly be surrounded by people who understood him was the soul of this movie as he represented what our Peter could become if he let his grief consume him.
Lot of people say this movie is fan service. And yes, you are right. But I think this movie also celebrates Spider-man movies good and bad. The movie is not cynical. It embrace the mistakes, but also what made the characters great. It was very well researched. Even the plot holes you said, there are explanations for those. The movie just worked.
how goblin is still alive?
@@jonhconner1191 infinite universes. I guess Goblin, Sandman, and Doc Oc were from different, but very similar universes.
@@Darwinfeeshy
They were sucked from different points of time. Space and Time are part of the same multiversal coin.
@@Darwinfeeshy that s the plot hole dude octavious confirm that norman is dead and sandman confirms even in that time no one but peter and bernard knew that the goblin was norman
@@jonhconner1191 Assuming that it is all based on the movies exactly, but if this makes the movie bad to you, that sucks. It is obvious it is different timelines because the Spiderman are older.
SPOILER - do not read any more if you haven't seen the film and don't want it spoiled. But man, that first post credit scene gave me such mood whiplash lol. I was SO mad at the possibility of Tom Hardy Venom being in the MCU. But then he disappeared and I let out a legitimate SIGH OF RELIEF like a cartoon character.
YES! I like how the movie treated him like the doofus he is lol. While everyone else is fighting and saving the world, he’s still trying to get his bearings. Using that as the introduction to the symbiote in the MCU is an interesting choice but I’d rather that then have this version of Eddie Brock stay in the MCU.
My friends and I all had the same reaction. So happy he’s not in the MCU
I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet. Morbius shows these two universes colliding again.
@@defro125 I've been thinking about that since I saw the movie today. It really feels like Sony is backed into a corner with things now. Morbius was supposed to be out before NWH and is now taking place after all the stuff was resolved. And we know the people that were pulled to MCU were those that knew Peter Parker, and only those were sent back.... so how is Vulture there? ...is Morbius...MCU? D:
@@burnsabeast see this is why morbius is so confusing!! it CANT be in the MCU bc you see an oscorp building in the trailer. NWH confirms there is no oscorp in their universe so it can’t be the MCU as we know it. not to mention the poster of tobey’s spider suit. morbius is going to be a trash fire. i can’t wait
Why is Anthony Carboni not there? I really wanted to hear his opinion of the movie.
That Dude earned his place
@@jamaalellison3076 He really did
Bring back Carboni!
He mentioned on his Twitter that’s he’s part of the rewatch crew not this one
@@blackiemist88 it’s just so lame to not keep the people from the rewatch crews for the movie it’s leading to. It’s like having a finale that ends without two of the main characters
I enjoyed Homecoming and Far From Home, but always felt like Tom was still just a kid in a suit. When I left seeing No Way Home, I felt like Tom had truly become Spiderman, the icon, the hero I looked up to when I was a little kid. His fight for what’s right in trying to save and redeem the villains, while believing everyone deserves a second chance really hit home :) All of this topped off with his selfless, sacrificial choice in the end was so Spiderman. I think his acting and especially Zendaya’s in this was incredible and you could really feel their chemistry on screen now relative to the first two movies.
Very well said. While I love Homecoming and Far From Home, it didn’t feel like Peter was truly Spider-Man yet. By the end of this one, he is undoubtedly the iconic Spider-Man we know and love!
You're right. You're so right. Before going into this movie, I would have never understood how I could possibly see Tom Holland as more than a child. Then after the big thing right before the very end, I couldn't imagine more Spider-Man movies because this child needed his support system, which are *SPOILERS* now all gone. It was really the last 15 minutes that cemented in my brain that Peter Parker is an adult and that lets my brain see Tom as one too. Now I can't wait for more movies because this tragic Peter who tries to take it on all alone before hitting that low point and bouncing back is my favorite Peter Parker and I can't wait to see Tom Holland mature through that role more.
This is exactly how I feel. Tom feels like Spider-Man now.
Him really becoming his own self and really feeling like classic Spidey was so exciting.
The ultimate moment of this in review is the hand off of plot from Greg to Nick. As a long time kinda funny fan seeing Nick being just as good as Greg at the plot and hosting is so cool.
I don’t mind Nick doing the plot when he’s not reading the book reports he makes during a lot of these reviews lol
@@blaizeadisek4376 yeah he’s great at the plot
Jesus Christ what an episode. I mean the movie was phenomenal but I swear this in review was just as good. First off, holy fucking shit Cameron Kennedy. That intro was fantastic. Also, Nick the hair looks amazing ! But you guys had me dying the entire episode. I missed you so much Greg
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Garfield’s performance was brutal. Got me every single time. Dafoe’s was brilliant as green goblin, how he changes his face to look like. Madman is scary af.
Something that I thought was super interesting in the mirror dimension scene when peter realizes that it is geometry is that it calls back to the first Thor movie when Thor is telling Jane that magic and science are one in the same.
Greg and Nick handing off the plot to each other was the Kinda Funny equivalent of seeing the Spider-Men teaming up together
I hope Sandman, Elektro, Lizard, Doc Ock and Green Goblin were able to finally found their salvation after this movie.
The fact that these three movies was the ENTIRE arc for Tom Holland going from a kid thrust into the hero world to wanting to live up to his hero’s standards to finally becoming his own hero as Spider-Man. I cried, laughed, smiled and felt so much of the “it really sucks to be Spider-Man” that the hero stands for. What a film and what a endcap/jumping off point for this character.
The mid-credit scene - seems like a nod to secret wars, where the symbiote attaches to the Spider-man in the original Secret Wars event.
Containment spell - the Spell Dr Strange uses to contain the spell is the same that we see in What If, used to contain the two individuals at the end of the series.
Yes, and the trailer for Dr strange shows the same strange from what if.... might be the intro of Captain Carter or someone else, I don't wanna get ahead of myself though.
Prediction for a future film: Making use of his latent magical ability, Ned will be able to break through the spell and remember Peter through the use of the handshake.
"Why are you screaming and getting hyped for that blind lawyer guy?"
"Like he said.....he's a really good lawyer"
I thought Kevin would love the mid-credits scene. It was basically a rug pull of, "Oh, you thought this Sonyverse stuff was coming to the MCU? Nope."
The symbiote left behind seems to imply that the MCU will do their own version of Venom that isn't awful.
Edit: just watched more and saw Tim already addressed this, totally agree. It's Kevin Feige saying "no thank you" to the prospect of using Sony's Venom.
I love that they did that and I’m so happy we get to see what an “mcu” version of venom is.
The question is, why bother with all that effort and coordination, you don’t need your symbiote to come from another universe.
I don’t think we’ll get a MCU Venom for a while either way, there will probably be an entire movie (or more if there’s crossover shenanigans) with the black suit before they have a Venom.
Well, Venom is awful and to date, MCU is pretty great and tonally consistent with its characters. No thank you to Sony's Venom indeed. Tom Hardy is probably top 5 actors for me and even he couldn't make that tripe watchable.
Major props to Willem Dafoe for portraying the Osborne/Green Goblin dynamic so well
When Tim mentioned the Spider-Man PS4 move in the Spoiler-free review, I had so many cool combos and possible moves running through my mind. I couldn't even comprehend the idea that they would include one of his combo finishers and to do it so brutally on the balcony! It was *chef's kiss*!
More gaming moments in films/movies please!!!
That wasn’t the only one though, the move Peter did to him in the first fight where he uses his webs to slam his feet into Goblin through a floor was another one. Both of them are general Spidey moves though, not necessarily from the game, even if the game was what inspired them to incorporate them. The bigger homage was the FEAST shelter and the gravestone.
I'd love to see an Amazing Spider-Man 3 where Andrew Garfield comes out retirement, moves on from his lost love with a female cat thief and fights Bane, I mean, Venom
Anthony is missing from the Spider-Boyz!
I love we got the im something of a scientist myself line. Also seeing matt murdock even for only a few minutes was so hype. But one of my favourite moments was andrews moment with mj. Don't normally tear up but that got me honestly. Was an amazing film, this could easy be number 1 for me.
Andrew's catch got me both times i saw this, real tears, cannot believe they really did that
This got me a few times. The Uncle Ben talk gets me every time. Andrew’s catch gets me every time. And then I’m just smiling most of the way through. It really is like a dream come true. Unreal.
Man I loved this movie. I love how they kept the focus on the main MCU cast as the emotional core but gave us all the Easter eggs and callbacks. Top 3 MCU movie
2:44:10 Norman being nice to Peter makes sense as he was always nice to him in the original movie. He only hated and was a dick to his own son lol
He didn’t hate Harry, he was just super disappointed and pissed he didn’t have any discipline and fucks up all the time
Kevin... FIXING THE CHAIR at the theater moments before he's about to see the biggest movie of the goddamn year... IS SUCH A KEVIN ASS STORY. Amazing. Fucking love this entire crew.
Calling the villains Gobby and Crew makes me think of that sinister six "me and the boys" meme that was going around a while back
1:59:50 Peter says somethign about changing the villains' fates, which reminded me of "If you could change your fate, would you?" line from brave?
"Did you see the new Spider-Man movie?"
"No, why?"
"Tobey's back!"
"What about it? Is it STILL hurting? It's been twenty years, the man needs to see a chiropractor."
Theres a point in this episode where they go on so many side tangents one after another that I genuinely thought I was listening to the Kinda Funny podcast and got completely thrown when they started recapping the plot again
They didn't mention it, but as far as an easter egg goes, I think I saw Hank Pym and Howard Stark in a mural inside the high school. It was in the staircase right before the scene with the teachers.
I just want to know who the fuck threw that brick, weren't they on like the 4th-5th floor or something like that? Because that thing came flying through the window like they were on the ground level.
It was Tom Brady!!!!
Just thought about this. With Ned and MJ going to MIT, do we think they'll cross paths with RiRi Williams aka IronHeart at school?
It’s completely possible. That would be a great detail to add and fiege did say that phase four will be simultaneously interconnected between shows and movies.
I know this is supposed to be MCU in review, but Blessing and Anthony Carboni absolutely should’ve been on this episode
As a big spiderman fan, seeing all three spidermans fighting multiple villains from the trilogies just blew my mind. Can't believe they actually did it.
TFW you realize 2002 Spider-Man retroactively becomes the first MCU movie.
Think Greg misinterpreted MJ asking Garfield if he was ok. Wasn't because she knew about the inner turmoil, she was surprised to see him acting that way and didn't know why he was sad
OG MCU in review crew is back you love to see it😍
All I can say for this film is “finally.” This was the MCU Spidey movie I’ve been begging for. Finally, some emotional depth and maturity that’s been lacking from this iteration. Jon Watts stepped it up in every way. MCU Spidey finally has some amazing and memorable action scenes. The Goblin fight scenes were so visceral, brutal, horrific, and just left me in awe.
The goddamn score!! I like Holland’s theme because it recreates the classic theme, but before now they never used it in this epic, operatic way similar to Elfman’s score that just continued to give me chills.
The fucking Spider-men was a dream come true. I couldn’t believe the movie I was watching was real. The dialogue between them is so effortless, organic, and so emotional that it brought me to tears. The details is what made it for me, like Tobey saying the Chrysler building is his place to escape (from the first movie after Ben passed). Each character from the past was brought back in such a great way, with actual arcs rather than gloried cameos and fan service. This film is an absolute love letter to Spider-Man and I cannot believe it exists.
For the most part I agree about the villains, but Sandman and Lizard really didn't need to be in it. They didn't get the same love as Norman, Otto, and Max.
Well said
I think Dr Strange's behavior lines up perfectly with how he acted with Thor in Ragnarok. He didn't explain to Thor all the intricacies of the spell. He just did research and went to action. He did the same here, but Peter kept changing the variables.
I loved Tobey and Andrew in the movie, but the moment I cheered the most was seeing Charlie Cox finally, FINALLY, be properly introduced in the MCU
Same!! That catch was so badass
I laughed, I cheered, I cried (literally). What a fantastic movie. Top 3 MCU for me (at #3 on my list), and my favorite Spider-Man movie (this is saying a lot, I adore Into the Spider-Verse). They pulled it off. They did it. They made it work so well. Bravo.
My only nitpicks are around some of the writing (Sandman’s motivation, etc) and not understanding where the direction is heading for the future. The end-credit scene confused me a little.
Edit: ouch, Greg
This movie will be a great test to see who is a contrarian troll. If you hate this movie or you think it sucked then we can just ignore that person.
@@ANTIStraussian I respect opinions but I’m starting to questioning “some” peoples opinions regarding the film.
Whatever criticism you had towards MCU Spider-Man prior to NWH-This film fixed that. If you STILL don’t like MCU Spidey after this film, I don’t know what to say. I think you just hate this character in general.
One of the most authentic Spider-Man media out there.
@@TaeInfinite anyone who says this movie was terrible should be put in a prison camp. If you think its just okay, then you can still be free
JK Simmons hinted that he will show up in other MCU movies I hope he becomes the new Stan Lee cameo in every movie when they need newsposition
Can we have a third an Amazing Spiderman movie now that's overseen by Disney that follows the events of this movie (electro being alive for example), where venom is in the same universe (he did say that he wanted to go to NY to meet with Spiderman) and opens the possibility of Andrew Garfield coming back to the MCU
i can’t remember a time i smiled harder in a theatre than when we got the power of the sun, something of a scientist, and TOBEY
I get it, they hate tobey for whatever reason, but theyre gonna really sit there and say he wasnt expressing so much emotion when stopping Tom. He knows how far gone Peter can get lost if he kills, and wants to save him from what he lived in turning to the dark. That potential sacrifice from goblin still stabbing someone who saved him is what changed Tom’s Peter to save Norman. I get it, they’re mad not as many liked the Tasm movies, but damn
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2:03:22
"So, this is your plan, Peter? Hm? No lab, no facilities, just performing miracles in a condominium? Hm? What, are you going to cook up some cures in frozen burritos in a microwave?"
"I could go for a burrito."
"He's gonna kill us all!"
Where’s carboni?????
The Lizard and Sandman don't die fighting Spider-Man in their movies and Doc Ock had regained control over the arms right before his death which is why I don't believe they were pulled (or not all were pulled) as they were literally about to die (like Norman with the glider) just at a moment before their death.
Thank you for this year of content! In review has been insane! Can't wait for next year!
1:24:59. Go watch the Screen Junkies Honest Trailer commentary for Far From Home. They have Toni Revolori there and he talks about it. That scene was improvised by him. His father was supposed to be the one to pick up Flash at the airport but Toni talked to Jon Watts the night before they shot the scene and convinced him it would be funnier if his parents didn't show up. His home life was not written that way; it was just a comedic choice.
Can't wait to see classic broke college student Peter Parker trying to make ends meet while doing Spider-man shit.
All I've been waiting for.
Greg should do a Heels season in review.
For the next movie I can see the villain be Mr. Negative in charge of Feast and that would give Peter the emotional turmoil for Venom to take control for a MCU Venom story arc.
I think that we are meant to believe that the villains were dragged into the MCU just after they realized that Spiderman was Peter Parker: for Norman/Goblin, it was after that Thanksgiving scene, for Doc Ock, not 100%, for Sandman, it was at the end of Spiderman 3, for Dr. Conners/Lizard, it was before the school fight scene and for Electro, it was right before his death. So I think the only ones who would have died immediately after being sent back would have been Doc Ock and Electro. At least that's what I took from the film.
how did Doc Ock know Norman was Green Goblin?
Been waiting all day for this!! So hype
It's implied that both green goblin and doc ock identities are public after their death. Sandman literally said he saw them in the news "Goblin died impaled by his glider and couple months later Ock drowned in the river"
Can you imagine being one of the Insomniac crew who designed and animated that move for PS4, only to now see it in THAT context?!
Really wish carboni and blessing were on the show to round up their thoughts. Would have been great to have them freak out and discuss it.
It's a crime there's no carboni here for this
Insane that they talked about Amazing Spider-Man longer than they talked about this movie
What a film! When Toby turned up gave me chills!
Willhem Dafoe was such a cartoon in the Raimi movie but man in this one he just nails this character of a split personality with his Norman side being so incredibly sympathetic as a mentally unwell person at his rock bottom pleading for help and his Goblin side being so insane and batshit evil.
Glad to see Greg come back for this review.
1:07:53 I paused to go listen to the theme song from succession because I’ve never watched the show and HOLY SHIT it friggin SLAPS!
So much bass… and sleigh bells
Maybe I was overthinking it, but when Garfield said "Peter 3" I thought it was a joke because he never got a 3rd movie.
I took it as he was 3 because people like him the least/he’s the least recognizable.
LETS GOO!!! In Review is literally PART of the MCU for me. It’s all part of what I love and what I get hype for. I get excited for a movie, I get excited for the in review. Thank you all so much for another year of content. Favourite channel on the entire internet ❤️
Yo the production value on that intro sequence tho! 🔥
I think Electro not knowing Garfield’s face but being affected by the spell is likely explained by Electro’s team up with Harry in ASM2. Harry could’ve told him Spidey was Peter Parker (maybe even on screen, I don’t remember) and that wouldn’t really mean much to Max, nor would he know what he looks like.
Man, it would’ve been nice to hear Carboni’s thoughts about this movie with you guys 😔
When MJ reveals the bandaid and says ‘it doesn’t hurt anymore’
Yes it does MJ. Yes. It. Does!!!
Just have them end up together and it’s a 10/10
All day today, I kept thinking about that end diner scene and almost tearing up. Man, it got me emotionally.
Yeah but consider this, he can get with Black Cat in the college trilogy.
I miss you guys. Hope you are enjoying vacation. Due to not having new kinds funny content coming in daily I may have listened to this episode like 20 times on podcasts
As much as I do think a lot of the bad decisions in Spider-Man movies over the years were his doing, the Avi Arad tribute feels 100% like a Kevin Feige choice because Feige's a good dude that would pay tribute to one of the people who gave him his start and has been associated with Marvel since the early 90s. We tend to associate Arad with Spider-Man mostly, but he founded Marvel Studios - at the time called Marvel Films - and he started producing for them with X-Men The Animated Series. I'm sure as soon as we get X-Men in the MCU we see a tribute to Lauren Shuler Donner in the credits for the same Feige connection reasoning.
I thought it was a really interesting thing to include in the credits… and you’re right that we usually associate Avi Arad with being the one that drove the Spider-Man franchise into the ground. Props to Kevin Feige for adding that in there.
Love the shot when ock is holding the three spiderman with his tentacles on the statue of liberty
He was holding just two of them.
@@loganbigmo true
I haven't seen anyone talk about my favorite moment. When Doctor Strange pushes Peter's astral form out of his body, you can very faintly see his spidey sense around his head like the comics/games. I got so happy seeing that!
"With great tiger, comes with great go get them." - Aunt May
That intro is everything 💯
Tim you are so so SOOO damn right that the strange spidey fight is gonna be so underated becuase of all the crazy stuff in this movie. What a task they had in thinking how can spiderman outsmart and win a 1v1 battle with the master of mystic arts. It was fucking incredible and it was the first sign of many to come later in the movie that this movie is more than just a great excuse for a fun crossover
I was a little disappointed that there wasn't a Ben Parker grave next to May's. Does he just not exist in this universe?
He exists, as his initials were shown in _Far From Home_ but he might not be anywhere near as important as he was for the Peter Parkers across the Multiverse.
Yeah, the fact that Tom's Peter barely gives any thought to when Tobey mentions Uncle Ben makes me think so. Also, Aunt May never showing any grief over Uncle Ben's passing and never even mentioning him just seems so weird. I would have liked when May says "With great power, comes great responsibility", that she says to Peter it would've been something that Ben would have said.
It's 100% true though, we wouldn't have any of these movies (the MCU and the modern superhero landscape in general, let alone Spiderman movies) if not for Avi Arad convincing studios to invest hundreds of millions of dollars not just into any superhero movie (like Blade or X-Men before it), but comic accurate ones that wear their source material on their sleeve, and end up becoming the biggest success to boot. Kevin Feige didn't decide to start/try the MCU till after Avi Arad proved what was possible with Spiderman, it is single handlely responsible for damn near everything, whether we want to like it/admit it or not. It took decades of turndowns, bad scripts, unfaithful approaches, etc before 2002 finally happened, and the same thing has already been happening for a long time with the Metal Gear Solid movie, his next big goal in properly translating a video game adaptation to the screen, of which he too will get a lot of big credit for not letting that get messed up and helping the shift for video games. It is not to say that he's perfect or anything, he obviously was responsible for making Raimi have Venom in Spiderman 3 as well as a rushed Sinister Six side-plot setup in Amazing 2, but when it comes to the behind the scenes historical impact of certain specific people, Feige and many others have laudedly regarded him as the top dog Hollywood "believer" or "fighter" for getting us to the kinds of things we want to see happen. Even those first comic movies like X-Men and Blade were low budget and/or afraid to embrace their comic heritage, even if their success helped Avi's arguments for convincing Sony on Spiderman, it was still hella risk and lots of money, and it inspired Feige to take the risk to that next level with a shared universe. This is why Kojima gave/attached his MGS movie to Avi Arad, to make sure the creative integrity of the IP isn't rushed/compromised, regardless of how long it may take. This movie put hella RESPECT on Avi's name and the salt here is real since the credits were done by Marvel Studios and most likely probably Feige's idea, not anyone from Sony. The movie itself pays so much homage both literally and metaphorically to Sony's older movies, there’s a clear love and respect for them from Marvel regardless of how anyone feels about em. Tom's Peter goes from looking up to and modeling himself after MCU characters to molding himself after his 2 Sony predecessors, and its the most true Spiderman we've gotten so far in the MCU.
Ayeeeeee. I been waiting
If Strange can delete the memory of Peter from people’s brains, as well as purging every physical evidence of his existence (phone texts, school records, JJJ’s news reports) from the entire world, why didn’t he delete the memory of the Infinity Stones from Thanos?
Because he looked through the millions of timelines and only the choices they made would have worked. It’s Marvel’s get out of jail free card lol
Very subtle Easter Eggs I found:
Tom webbing cars to the bridge like in ASM1
Tom has a cut on his cheek that looks like Tobey’s scar in the end fight.
Tom has his hair styled like Andrews when he takes his mask off several times.
Tobey and Andrew talking about how their relationships are complicated is a callback to Peter and Harry talking in ASM2 about how dating and Peter’s life in general is complicated.
Andrew Vs Tobey might be a reference to that ASM2 ad where there’s a reflection of Spider-Man in a window that’s a Chibi Spider-Man that mimics him, but obviously the pointing meme works too.
They also use more orchestral choir and horn for Tom’s spider-man theme when Tobey and Andrew joined as a way to add their theme elements to his, which I hope they carry forward.
2:31:19 - No, no, that's the youth pastor face. It's the "Hey, you need to step back and breathe, what the snot are you DOING, man? Look at yourself! This is not how we do things! That is not how this works. You need to be responsi--remember the responsibility thing? I know how much it sucks, I know how much it hurts, but this is the time for that responsibility." look.
Just with their eyes, Tobey Maguire and Tom Holland managed to re-enact the entire "Dude" conversation from Baseketball.
2:00:05 Andy's thinking of Peters basically saying "If you had a chance to Change your fate" line from Brave lol
I cannot hate, that intro was absolute insanity
Did the film pass the bechdel test? i cant rember Tim Mentioning it.
I LOVED the nod to the common saying that Garfield is the best Spiderman and Toby is the best Peter. When Ned uses magic to say "show me Spiderman", it goes to Andrew. "Show me Peter Parker" goes to Tobey. I'm sure that was intentional but even if not, I enjoyed it
Edit: sooo... this is embarrassing but just rewatched, and ya... this didn't happen. Both times Ned says show me Peter Parker. Sorry! Funny how the brain works in superfans...
“Common”
@@tellietubbiesgoboom ok, I've heard that twice before, give me a break ;)
I swear people who think Tobey is the best Peter have never read a Spider-Man comic. Peter was NEVER as dopey as Tobey, not even in the 60's or 70's.
@@DrPantsMD i don't think people that say that mean that he was the most accurate comic book rep, more that they just liked that version of Peter Parker. Im not in that camp, my touchstone to Spiderman was the early 90s show where Peter was a 6'3 220lb jock. I just enjoyed the nod to people that do feel that way about Tony and Andrew
The guy with the staff/sphere was Kraven The Hunter
that intro gets better and better everytime
In Review requests:
Twilight In Review
Mid-90s Disney Original Films In Review
I love when y'all review good bad movies.
But also Matt Damon In Review. From his narration in Spirit, to his fights as Jason Bourne, to him farming potatoes on Mars, to him buying a zoo, I want 'em all.
The saying on Mays gravestone is straight from
Spider-Man ps4. It’s her big line in the game and it’s also on her gravestone in that game
BTW if your Metreon chair isn't reclining it's almost always because some asshole unplugged it to charge their phone earlier.
I love these guys, you are so funny and entertaining to watch, my favorite podcast
spidey getting the real suit at the end mean that Tony was right giving the training wheels suit xD