From what I understand the UK release from the BBC also has the AI nonsense so it's most likely Aardman. I believe A Matter of Loaf and Death is the worst looking (funnily enough the only film shot digitally, the original trilogy was shot on film so there was no reason to upscale them, didn't stop them doing it though). Though he was referring to the physical puppets, Nick Park says he likes the imperfections, the finger marks, the smudges and so on and I have to agree as that's where part of the charm comes from (even in the more lavish later productions). Removing the detail kind of defeats the point. At least the Blu Ray included in the UK set is a repack of the old Blu Ray from 2009 which still looks great despite the masters being 15 years old.
Yeah it definitely seems like Aardman did this to themselves. I agree that removing the texture of the finger prints using AI removes the charm of the stop motion characters. It’d be like adding motion smoothing to the original King Kong
@@CollectorCreations Yeah I believe the audio is also poor with it sounding somewhat metallic, I believe The Wrong Trousers is the worst sounding. On Blu Ray the films are slowed down by 0.4% due to technical reasons, they were originally shot in PAL 25fps, so as a result the pitch is a little lower (which doesn't bother me as it's no different to PAL speed up on DVDs) however on the 4K they fixed the pitch but it caused a lot of artefacts. Also they didn't bother restoring the original music to The Wrong Trousers, I mean Happy Birthday has been public domain since 2015. This is from what I hear, I don't own the set (because I don't have a UHD player or TV) but I do have a repack of the 2009 disc.
@@CollectorCreations I forgot to mention another issue with the set, it doesn't have HDR, it's one of the few UHD Blu Rays not to include HDR. From what I hear to 4k folks HDR matters more then resolution, and since they were upscaled the resolution isn't even that impressive. Extras wise (and this is coming from the UK version) all it has new are the A Grand Night In documentary (which is on RUclips) and the Cracking Contraptions shorts, which are upscaled from standard definition and aren't all that impressive (though the shorts are fantastic). It's a shame they didn't do more with the films, for example restoring the original music to The Wrong Trousers (I'm sure Aardman can afford the licence to "How Much is That Doggy in the Window") and present A Close Shave in it's original aspect ratio. On the Blu Ray and later UHD A Close Shave is presented in a cropped 14:9 aspect ratio, instead of being presented in 4:3 as per it's original airing as well as on the VHS and early DVD releases.
Actually there’s a lot of 4K’s that don’t have HDR. Kino has a lot of 4KSDR releases so it isn’t uncommon. Even Blade Runner 2049 doesn’t actually have HDR. Also the Cracking Contraptions is on the old Blu-Ray as well. They are 480p videos originally released on RUclips so it sucks that there wasn’t a remaster of them but it’s hard to say whether they still had the original files.
@@CollectorCreations You learn something new everyday. Also Cracking Contraptions are very likely (I shouldn't say "very likely", definitely) on foreign releases but not on the UK Blu from 2009, though they did release a Blu Ray version of the 4K set at the same time but it's the 4K set minus the 4K disc (so the 2009 Blu Ray with a bonus disc). Cracking Contraptions was shot on film (on the RUclips uploads and on DVD you can see occasional white specs and some gate weave which is the give away) so they could have done a remaster.
I know most people won't like this but I've got hundreds of movies in fullHD and 4K and more often than not the fullHD upscaled by my LG oled with sharpness 1 notch under max every other gimmick like denoiser off, they look better than the supposedl "4K" HDR 9/10 looks worse too, laser white light bulbs pure white skies instead of blue...too many are HDRized as badly as AI upscaled and I have to disable everything so they look like SDR in the end, very few movies in 4K convince me and it's always old movies shot on film that kept all their grain, you can smooth it down on your tv but you can't add detail once it's lost
I don’t mind how a person watches their films or shows, like with your process. In the end it’s your TV and settings so if you like how you are watching it then that’s fine. I just don’t like when companies think they can ruin something like Wallace and Gromit by using AI to remaster or upscale it and then expect us, the consumers, to be happy with it
Interesting as an Wallace and Gromit fan and just got the uk version ordered for the 4K collection
I imagine the set you’ve ordered will have the AI ‘restoration’. As a Wallace and Gromit fan this is really sad news
AI is getting too invasive.
Undoubtedly. They need to keep AI away from actual art
From what I understand the UK release from the BBC also has the AI nonsense so it's most likely Aardman. I believe A Matter of Loaf and Death is the worst looking (funnily enough the only film shot digitally, the original trilogy was shot on film so there was no reason to upscale them, didn't stop them doing it though).
Though he was referring to the physical puppets, Nick Park says he likes the imperfections, the finger marks, the smudges and so on and I have to agree as that's where part of the charm comes from (even in the more lavish later productions). Removing the detail kind of defeats the point.
At least the Blu Ray included in the UK set is a repack of the old Blu Ray from 2009 which still looks great despite the masters being 15 years old.
Yeah it definitely seems like Aardman did this to themselves. I agree that removing the texture of the finger prints using AI removes the charm of the stop motion characters. It’d be like adding motion smoothing to the original King Kong
@@CollectorCreations Yeah I believe the audio is also poor with it sounding somewhat metallic, I believe The Wrong Trousers is the worst sounding. On Blu Ray the films are slowed down by 0.4% due to technical reasons, they were originally shot in PAL 25fps, so as a result the pitch is a little lower (which doesn't bother me as it's no different to PAL speed up on DVDs) however on the 4K they fixed the pitch but it caused a lot of artefacts.
Also they didn't bother restoring the original music to The Wrong Trousers, I mean Happy Birthday has been public domain since 2015.
This is from what I hear, I don't own the set (because I don't have a UHD player or TV) but I do have a repack of the 2009 disc.
@@CollectorCreations I forgot to mention another issue with the set, it doesn't have HDR, it's one of the few UHD Blu Rays not to include HDR.
From what I hear to 4k folks HDR matters more then resolution, and since they were upscaled the resolution isn't even that impressive.
Extras wise (and this is coming from the UK version) all it has new are the A Grand Night In documentary (which is on RUclips) and the Cracking Contraptions shorts, which are upscaled from standard definition and aren't all that impressive (though the shorts are fantastic).
It's a shame they didn't do more with the films, for example restoring the original music to The Wrong Trousers (I'm sure Aardman can afford the licence to "How Much is That Doggy in the Window") and present A Close Shave in it's original aspect ratio. On the Blu Ray and later UHD A Close Shave is presented in a cropped 14:9 aspect ratio, instead of being presented in 4:3 as per it's original airing as well as on the VHS and early DVD releases.
Actually there’s a lot of 4K’s that don’t have HDR. Kino has a lot of 4KSDR releases so it isn’t uncommon. Even Blade Runner 2049 doesn’t actually have HDR.
Also the Cracking Contraptions is on the old Blu-Ray as well. They are 480p videos originally released on RUclips so it sucks that there wasn’t a remaster of them but it’s hard to say whether they still had the original files.
@@CollectorCreations You learn something new everyday. Also Cracking Contraptions are very likely (I shouldn't say "very likely", definitely) on foreign releases but not on the UK Blu from 2009, though they did release a Blu Ray version of the 4K set at the same time but it's the 4K set minus the 4K disc (so the 2009 Blu Ray with a bonus disc).
Cracking Contraptions was shot on film (on the RUclips uploads and on DVD you can see occasional white specs and some gate weave which is the give away) so they could have done a remaster.
I know most people won't like this but I've got hundreds of movies in fullHD and 4K and more often than not the fullHD upscaled by my LG oled with sharpness 1 notch under max every other gimmick like denoiser off, they look better than the supposedl "4K" HDR 9/10 looks worse too, laser white light bulbs pure white skies instead of blue...too many are HDRized as badly as AI upscaled and I have to disable everything so they look like SDR in the end, very few movies in 4K convince me and it's always old movies shot on film that kept all their grain, you can smooth it down on your tv but you can't add detail once it's lost
I don’t mind how a person watches their films or shows, like with your process. In the end it’s your TV and settings so if you like how you are watching it then that’s fine. I just don’t like when companies think they can ruin something like Wallace and Gromit by using AI to remaster or upscale it and then expect us, the consumers, to be happy with it