Food Buckets and Canning Scams - Yikes!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- I think I almost got scammed! Have you ordered canning lids from this website? Please let us know how it worked out for you. Also, share any sites where legitimate lids are for sale.
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I ordered jars from that website last year. I recieved 6 jars with no name on them instead of 6 dozen. Luckily I paid with my PayPal account. I first contacted the website with no response I contacted PayPal. They got me my money back within just less than a week. I found out that it was really a company from China. So people please be careful. I was lucky because of using PayPal.
I also got scammed by them but PayPal didn't make any difference! That stupid cost me ugh.
I got a scammed by a Chinese lid company last fall posing as Ball mason lids, but the lids were really inferior and definitely not Ball lids nor the size I ordered. Paypal would do nothing.
@@zettal2316 I'm sorry to hear that PayPal didn't help.
Same thing happen to me exactly why I paid with PayPal
Visa & MasterCard also offer protection from those types of things. I’m mot sure if it only applies when you run it as a credit card, directly (not via PayPal), etc.
Thank You!
We have buckets of wheat berries, corn, rice and oats that are perfectly fine after 22 years in storage. No bugs, no mildew, no spoilage, this with no mylar, no oxygen absorbers and no moisture absorbers aside from hand warmers. I think that storage conditions of buckets are far more important than any other factor. Cool, constant and dark, are the keys to long term. At this point though, SHTF isn't far away. I wouldn't even bother with all these precautions. Its more important to just get the food into buckets.
yep, roger that
FYI, hand warmers are oxygen absorbers.
Matthew Brown, I think so but most preppers disagree. I did a video on the matter and finally took it down after I tired of debating the matter. In all truth though its probably a waste to use a handwarmer without a sealed mylar bag. Unless you glue the lid onto your bucket. Which makes them crazy to get off. I stopped doing it that way about two years ago. Everything we prep these days, goes into vacuum sealed canning jars. Cause like I said, you gotta have the jars anyway.
@@Anamericanhomestead Your vid doesn't bode well for the Ball Corp ! It's up there and they don't go after the site ?
Yep, I’m filling buckets and then repackaging in Mylar and oxygen absorbers as I can afford them. I’m just keeping up with the ones that are done and the ones that still need their Mylar and oxygen absorbers. Main objective is have food for family!
Never click the first few entries that come back on a search. If it says AD at the beginning of the description, don't click it.
Oh those dirtbags! Thanks for the warning.
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing.
I have a friend that ordered some “ball” lids off Amazon. They were not “ball” and DID NOT seal! Glad you caught it!
Thanks for sharing!🙌🏻
For popcorn, adding a few drops of water, mixing, and waiting 10 minutes helps with making all kernals pop. If your corn is in a zip lock or jar you can treat the bag before sealing so it hydrates the whole bag.
I always heard if you put oxygen absorbers in popcorn that it could cause it not to pop. Glad you said yours is fine
Shalom from Victoria TX!
If you’re using an oxy-absorber then you definitely should be using a Mylar bag “bucket liner,” which are all food grade (FG). That being the case you do NOT need to use a food grade plastic for your bucket, as the food will not be in direct contact with it due to the liner. Not a huge deal, but it saves money and increases options in case you CAN’T find a FG bucket.
Label your Bucket on the outside and your bag on the inside where you seal the top. Tape over top of the label on the outside with clear packing tape so it doesn’t get worn off. If it does you’ll still have the label on the inside. Label each bucket as you seal it up. Don’t start multiple buckets of different things at once so you don’t get them confused.
Don’t seal the bag half way up. Rather, squeeze all the air out and seal it up at the top so you can potentially reuse the bag easier later on after you cut the seal and take the food out of it.
Buy 6 gallon bags NOT 5 gallon bags. They’re slightly more expensive but you’ll have more left of the bag, which will let you reuse it more times. Buy the heavier 5 to 7 mil bags for the same reason.
Keep a “pantry set” of restaurant quality FG HDPE buckets that you can dump your foods into for daily use so that you can immediately dump your just opened stored food into. That way you can immediately reuse the bucket and liner to put back another bucket (or two) of that same food type.
Keep your foods stacked in First In - First Out rotational use format so that the next bucket opened is the oldest one on hand.
Use 50% less oxygen absorber than the bag volume you are filling because the food will displace some of that volume and once you use the absorber it’s pretty much done for.
Don’t store food in sizes larger than you can easily maneuver or pack into the vehicle in case you are forced to relocate for some reason.
Have some smaller volume containers on hand that will let you share with others without disclosing the volume you have in storage, whether it be zip-lock containers or paper bags.
When you share, tell them they need to save the container for next time they run out so they have something to refill, or you’re going to dump it into their shirt. :-)
That’s all I’ve got for now! Good luck, God Bless!
Those are some great suggestions! Thanks for sharing. I hadn't even considered several of those. I'm so glad to have that info. I'm just getting started myself.
You can also freeze your flower or anything like that in it will kill all the spores and bugs and everything
First thing... don't use Google. Use duckduckgo and reputed prepper/gardener sites even if you have to wait.
Today, on Appalachia’s Homestead, Patara put out a warning about online lids too.
Yes hate plastics too. I have used de for years
When you opened up the internet and typed in canning lids, the first link that popped up had the word AD out to the left of it. My hubby has told me to Never click on one that has AD next to it because they are usually trying to re-direct you to someplace you don't want to go.
So very true. I know we get in a hurry to find something, and don't catch that little warning. The word ad is in darker letters. So far it has been on the left.
I've never seen that in my search engine.
Or PayPal only
I did this for as long as I remember, my God given intuition told me to do it that way❤️
Freezing food, while it may effectively kill pests, well also cause the moisture inside the food to freeze. Water freezing inside individual cells can expend and cause the cell walls to rupture, which accelerates degradation/"spoilage". Certainly it shortens the effective shelf life of stored foods.
Botulism is anaerobic and I suggest that lack of air isn't the only precaution that should be taken. There is nothing that can be done, ( that isn't just palliative care ) for food poisoning.
They can sensor speech on demand but filtering scams.. nerp
Thanks for heads up.. I bought Anchor Hocking lids and they bent up a ridge in half in canner! My sisters A.H. casserole dish exploded in the oven. She called and they don't make them like they use too, but sent her another one?🙄🤔 it use to be a great company. Ball & Kerr lids lasted 25 years now only 18 mos. It's on the boxes not long shelf life, rubber thinner etc. Pitiful. Another rant I have is our foods are in plastic bottles and containers instead of glass or cans and NOTHING lasts not tea or coffee, katsup etc. I'm off grid and if power goes down in the cities,, the houses with AC will be hot houses & nothing keeps long. I just wish people would rise up from apathy but.... I am so glad God will keep His own people. May He super bless your family in an unexpected way.
All buckets are food grade. Recycling #2. Just depends on what was in it previously.
I bought some "superb" brand lids last year and they are amazing! Excellent quality!
Zach, the bigger issue with that site is they get your mailing info and banking information if you entered it directly. This happened to me but I never went through with it because it was too good of a deal. Luckily I didn't give them my info but ti was a close call. I simply did the Google search of the site like you did and saw it was full of scams.
My mommy always stored her meal flour and sugar in buckets and they was no bugs in her products because a air tight lid keeps it perfect she went through the depression Lard buckets lard never ruin
I just went to their website and they state that they are the only official seller of Mason brand lids and that all others are scams!
Never, never click on when it says "AD" .... never
There is a local company a few counties over that makes the plastic buckets. When the local grocers have their case lot sales the buckets they sell comes from Willard,Utah. Plastic can react to cold making it brittle. Keep that in mind when finding a storage location
I vacuum seal a lot of seed and or dry beans things of that nature.
Diatomaceous earth is FOSSILIZED algae. The main component is silica. Have you heard of silicosis? I had a cat die from inhaled diatomaceous earth.
I got scammed also from a fraudulent ball site. The jars didn’t even fit a canning lid it keeps turning.
I Did the samething with Keystone canned meat lost 70.00 never got the product Pay pal did nothing for me.
Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 oh 😳 sorry about that 😇I shop at our Amish store for canning items 😇
Target has the Ball brand wide mouth lids and rings they will ship to your house.
We go to Target about once a week (I have a wife) and I grab either a case of pint or bigger jars. Target was the first store I found ball jars at after the big jar shortage.
Thanks for the heads up. I am sure that you know about Lehman's also uline is a good source.
I ordered lids back in august from Lehman’s and still haven’t received them!
Lehman's is expensive
@@chomama1628 I did also, and I received mine. Contact them back. You must have got lost in their system. Which is not hard to do with all the hacking going on everywhere. Scams are everywhere.
Oh hey, Mr. Jeff!
@@bethanymills1945 howdy there, fancy seeing you here. Have a good day.
Yeah yeah, no doubt. There 2 strikes down already. Said wrongly from USA, AND bad research results. I wouldn't want it up next to my foods either.
Alot of people can't afford the fancy buckets and bags. Then what?
If you’re going to be stupid, you’ve got to be tough.
When I Google something, I never click on the top where they say "Ad". I scroll down further where you get to actual websites.
Interesting!
Get a cc and save yourself. My mother in law only had a bank card and she got wiped out both her checking and savings because she had overdraft
No. Stupid should hurt!
The first mistake, trusting Google
Here's an oddity. When I was young, when we would cook with flour, corn meal and I would find little black bugs crawling in it. By the 1990s I'm unable to find bugs in the old flour and stuff that I would usually find them.
Food for thought:
If the chickens and pets won't eat your food....neither should we.
Even bugs know there’s no nutritional value! Lol
The majority of the co-ops / silo companies will test the load of food stuff before the accept the product from the farmer. Any bugs, eggs, fungus and the loads are rejected so the farmers are very careful to spray the fields. In the US and Canada I believe all loads are tested, not sue about elsewhere.
I've only found bugs in organic flours not in the bleached flour.
My cats have turned their noses up at fresh fish...
@@happygardener28 I'd rather eat food with a few bugs in it than food covered in pesticides
I ordered what sounds like the same company of canning lids and most of them had dents in the lids. Less than half were good. Beware!
Check facebook market place frequently .. People post canning supplies periodically.. Ebay has them.as well.
Just so you know I liked this video three times and all three times RUclips deleted my likes.
They do that. Thanks for trying though
Tried buying a few of your t-shirts, not one of the PROMO codes would work. 😢 will wait for one that works
Just add dry bay leaves.
Oxygen absorber...that's they used to kill Godzilla.
Hi,
What do you think of using Bay leaves for storage of dry goods?
I use it in rice and flour. Works well.
Yep Chinese company got me too , now I only go eBay and amazon
We got sucked into the same scam about 6 months ago.
This video is six months old, but I’ll comment anyway. I noticed a long time ago that lids were becoming very hard to find. I decided to buy 200 large and small mouth reusable tattler/harvest guard lids. Problem solved. Started storing some dry goods in half gallon jars, expensive. Then saw people talking about Mylar and plastic buckets. Again expensive. So I’m thinking I’m going to go with Mylar and absorbers. Thinking about storing in 55 gallon food grade drum with removable lid and just stacking it up in there. No plastic buckets.
I got took summer of 2020. Ordered 4 dresses got 1. Couldn't even track the Chinese tracking # from a wig front company.
Chase Bank Couldn't either. So, I paid on my card for four dresses got 1.
But the Wig co. Lied and said they shipped all. Post office Couldn't look up their phoney tracking #.
Crooks !
Do not use if the rubber gaskets are white. Red is USA
I order from Uline. They have everything and delivery is quick.
Ace hardware carries lots of kids and jars in my area. I have reused the ball lids up to 3 times and haven't had a problem. My grandma done the same. Do I recommend it for long term storage? No, but if you're in a pinch they will work. I've never had one pop. I don't keep them over a year or you can use for dry storage.
To anyone that plans to live mostly on garden foods after SHTF, I advise that you stockpile far more lids and jars than you have now. Garden foods are essentially diet foods. By my calculations you can get about 450 calories of these foods in a quart canning jar. This is a rough overall average that I reached using store bought vegetables and putting them in canning jars but I feel that it is accurate enough to calculate your requirements.
To get from harvest to harvest here in the north, one needs somewhere around 1200 quart jars. ⭐️ PER PERSON! Don't believe me? Well, this calculation was confirmed when my grandmother died. Grandma, grandpa, and their three children, just five people in all, had over 6000 mason jars in their cellar. They lived almost entirely on garden foods and farm raised meats. And get this, grandma claimed that they actually needed more jars than they had.
I inherited half of those jars but instantly realized that we were way short on lids. Imagine the lids you would need to keep just five or six people alive for several years.
I recently bought lids through an Amish neighbor who cans jellies and jams to sell. I never could have reached my goals buying them just a few dozen here and there. Co-oping is a good way to get them cheap and in large quantities. It saved me and my neighbor a bundle to buy them like this. The neighbor would not divulge her source, and Im almost certain they were Chinese lids but when you weigh the price of starvation its an acceptable risk.
BTW, grandma told me not to shy away from reusing lids. "If they don't seal" she said, "they wont dimple. If the seal fails, feed the chickens."
We have tried this and we have lost a few seals. We just put those jars in the frig to eat right away.
Personally though, I do not recommend using a lid more than once. Also, ALWAYS mark any re-used lids.
Tattler Reusable Canning lids. Made in USA, right in my home state/Michigan. They are currently selling for about the same price as Ball brand throw away. I have used them for years.
It’s seeming more and more impossible that if you don’t already have land- the knowledge-AND a side fortune to buy everything needed to survive right down to 1000’s of just lids- yeah, we’re gonna starve. Why bother at this point then.
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I use a combination of either basil leaves or O2 absorbers along with either a Mylar bag or a bucket liner along with a gamma lid.
Can you explain the purpose of the basil leaves?
@@robertschmidt9296 it also helps keep pests away as they don’t like the smell.
@@wvnanaskitchenandgarden thanks, I didn't know that.
I believe mint works too, they don’t like the smell
@@vickielster3928 I’ve read that also
Local Dollar General stores have harvest brand canning jars at least here in midwest my bride has been able to get them on a regular basis
My wife bought a case last month and I had never used them. I like them and I feel they are on par with Ball brand.
Yes I loves those they work very well
Just got our all american canner. Ordered October 2020. Thanks for sharing. Shalom
I’ve had my All American 930 approximately 25 years. With some minimal care, you have a life-long investment.
A lot of people in my canning groups are having issues with “off brand” lids buckling during the canning process and also coming unsealed sitting on the shelf. These are experienced canners.
In addition to the co-op I also ordered a couple hundred reusable lids as well. Never tried them before, but felt like it was worth it to have some on hand. I have about 1000 jars so I need to make sure I have lids!
I don't order anything on the internet. I buy my canning lids at Walmart. That way I know what I'm getting.
Thanks for the heads up
I clicked on that site looking for lids and I clicked right back off... Praise God, I didn't follow through with a purchase...
Why can't old glass jars from the store be used? Like old pickle jars, spaghetti sauce jars etc. I've never canned anything just trying to learn as much as possible
They're not designed for repeat canning and heat pressure. You can use them to dry store food though
This is what happens when you try to go cheap
i reuse lids and have for over 15 years now. never any problems. i even use store bought jars and can in those. spaghetti, salsa anything with the rubber ring inside works, sometimes better then regular canning jars.
How about canning in sea water, then it's not made with sodium silicate alumin8te or benzeen-salt sodium benzo8te and it's not recycled city water which goes back to your house in a day
Still trying to figure out why the bucket needs to be bpa free/food grade, when you are storing in a mylar bag. If nothing is leaching out, then nothing should be coming in. I would expect if you were just putting it directly in the bag, it would be fine. Please tell me if I am wrong thinking it is just an extra step.
I started saving like this as well when I couldn't find the bpa free. Same logic as you have stated is why I continue to store in them.
THE BUCKET SCAM. Buckets labeled HDPE2 on the bottom are food grade as long as they have never had anything toxic stored in them. People are just paying extra for the food grade label on the bucket.
@@brendaraines9088 I'm new here. Ideally you can just store directly in the hdpe2 buckets correct? Without the Mylar bags? I haven't thoroughly investigated it but had a hard time finding 5 gal Mylar bags where ppls reviews said they weren't legit. Can I just buy hdpe2 buckets and ration diff amt with ziplocks inside?
@@slee7991 You can store directly in the bucket if you wanted. It really depends on how long you are planning on storing the product. My long term storage is in mylar bags w/O2 absorbers. I mostly use the 1 gallon size, and put multiples in the bucket.
i ordered lids from Amazon they said they were Ball lids when i received them they were not Ball lids. When I did the review for Amazon I put in there that they were fake and Amazon would not post my review. Amazon doesn't care what companies are selling on their site.
Yep these Asian companies prep there web site to look like it’s in the USA, it really sucks I have been stupid and it does hurt
I found canning lids at Tractor Supply of all places. Worth checking out.
After you can the fish, how are some ways you use it? Would love to see a video on you canning the fish as well! 😊
Me too! I have never tried canned fish or pickled fish. Would love to learn
@@karolmoreland834 Have you ever had canned tuna or salmon? My in-laws often canned their own after fishing and gave me quite a bit. I saved a can for 14 years before opening and it tasted as fresh as the day it was caught. 20 years,if properly stored, is a reasonable amount of shelf life.
@@DeathAngelHRA may I know where you store them? Thank you 😊
@@natlim6709 In a cool, dark cupboard in the kitchen.
I have cases of lids I bought at Menards few mouths ago. Actual ball lids. Let me know if you want any. I have plenty regular and wide mouth.
From where did you order your popcorn, etc.
I don't order anything from the internet. I buy my Canning Jars, Lids and Lids & Rings from Walmart and Menards. Be safe my friends and don't get ripped off.
Mason is not a manufacturing company. It is a licensed screw on lid and seal design for several sizes of glass canning jars. Ball and Atlas among others manufacture jars with the Mason standard size(s) lids and seals. Don't use a debit card for payment. It is your money you have to fight to get back. Use a credit card, then it is the issuing bank's money they take back from the merchant.
I freeze dry and then store in mylar for up to 20 years......
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East Tennessee - I bought Ball wide mouth canning lids yesterday at the local Walmart. 😇
Thank you, this reminds me to be careful. Not sure why, but I never click on any choices that say "Ad". I always scroll down and look for the true site url/link.
I also made the same mistake, the lids came with the screw on tops, but, the thread/s were metric and not American. Therefore, did not fit my jars. Getting money back was a nightmare
Wow, a month ago I ordered a part for my truck. I searched online and found what I wanted. I ordered it and right after I hit the order button, it came back to me that the shipping charge was $150. It was coming from NJ and I live in NY. So I cancelled it and it took weeks to get my money back. I now make sure of everything, tax, shipping, and cost before I order.
I also look to see if it's being made in or shipped from a red star country that doesn't like us
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Thank you... Remember the Chinese people have no say in what they make. I have used KOOK from Germany and they work beautiful. Orchard Harvest are fantastic lids.
Sorry you originally got scammed. Thank you so much for this information and warning.
The website was made in the USA.
have you tried tattler brand reusable lids?
some other company bought Ball Lids rights - other prepper sites have been talking ForLids are ok - due own research
I keep talking about getting rid of all of the plastics around. When you start reading though it's like even wood and stainless steel can be coated in plastic. Mylar bags are coated in plastic as well.
That's because plastics are one of man's greatest inventions!
Thank you for the warning
Isn't mylar a plastic?
is anybody else as fed up with china and the CCP, as I am. lol.
A China company patented "Made in the USA" with the flag logo years ago.
Wow! That's dirty.
Mylar is plastic
I got scammed buying canner in a similar manner. My red flag was the low shipping cost.