Mitsubishi M100 vs Embraer E175-E2: Which Scope Clause Compliant Jet is Better?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2019
- This video is about Mitsubishi M100, or previously the MRJ70 and the Embraer E175-E2, a re-engined version of the popular E175. Both these aircraft have newer more fuel effcient engines and techologies though that does add weight to both. Both manufacturers are modifiying theri designs for these aircraft to fir in scope clauses, but which is best? Watch this epic comparison to find out!
Not trying to be rude but at 4:01 that is incorrect information. Embraer says the E2-175 can fly up to 2000 nm and the E175 can fly up to 2200 nm. I have firsthand witnessed it fly over 2000 nm on a flight from DTW to LAX. The airline I used to work for daily flew an E170 or E175 between DTW and MTY and that is nearly 1300 nm. I would promptly take the Embraer product over Mitsubishi. The Mitsubishi has been lingering in production and testing delay for over 6 years. Whereas the Embraer factory and engineering have been churning out product numbers at a high rate for much longer. Remember, those percentages of operational efficiency gains only affect in-service aircraft. What happens when you don't have parts to sustain your maintenance cycles? Embraer is well in front of Mitsubishi and Airbus A220 in their fleet support network.
Not at the gross weight required by the Scope Clauses, then range is as he stated.
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Some misinformation.
The E175-E2 is unfortunately not a typical case of shrink inefficiency. In a simple shrink variant, the airframe is shorten but retained the same capable wing and engines of its larger siblings. This results in a smaller body with and over powerful engine which leads to inefficiency.
However this is not the case for the E175-E2. It has a smaller wings and engines, that is different from its larger E190/E195 siblings and this helps it to avoid the inefficiency that results from a simple shrink. In fact, looking back at the history, the E175-E1 was the original E-jets variant with the E170-E1 being the shrink and the E190-E1 being the stretched variant . The only disadvantage it has is the older, heavier fuselage that was inherited from the E1.
No doubt the MRJ M100 will still be better in terms of fuel economy but it also comes bigger uncertainty in maintenance and reliability. Thus both jets are extremely close in terms of total overall cost of ownership.
Ching Wei Xion Thanks for letting me know! Wow I did not know that the E175-E2 was not a shrink but rather a stretch though this shows that Embraer did engineer the aircraft well. Thanks for watching and if you have not done so do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more videos!
nice try to stab Japan in the back as usual. Are you a part of Chairman Xi's 50 cent army? who also brought us the COVID-19
@@oneskyflyer the original 170/175 share the same wing and engine. The 190/195E1 employ other engine and bigger wings. The E2 familiy shows 2 engines (175 vs 190/5) and three diferent bespoke wings.
Um detalhe, o E175 E2 não é uma versão reduzida do E190 E2, mas o desenvolvimento de sua versão anterior, que deu origem às versões alongadas. E em se tratando de peso estrutural maior, ele possui muito mais capacidade de carga e é perfeitamente otimizado para atender as linhas regionais de todo o planeta, em particular as linhas norte americanas, dentro da regulamentação daquele país. E a Embraer é por si, um nome global, que não precisa de qualquer apresentação, todo o mercado de aviação comercial do planeta conhece muito bem. O avião da Mitsubishi é lindo, mas o avião da Embraer é perfeito!
M100 is a copy of E175-e2. No surprise there, since Mitsubishi came to Brazil and hired many Embraer engeneers paying them a really big premium...
For sure...
Always E2
Someone could to say what is the fuel burn (litres/km) of the e2-175 ?
This video is perfect especially since Boeing dropped Embraer and now is interested in Mitsubishi
And it was a big mistake!
Partnership is the best idea when you have to sale so few planes. Utility vehicles constructors do it for decades right now.
Mitsubishi spacejet for me, its looks modern and stylish, beautiful design.
Embraer Will always be The best,cause I'm Brazilian ...so...🇧🇷😁thanks👅
mitsubishi was hoping to capture the us market with mrj, but now that boeing bought embraer, things are going to change. there are certainly more incentives for airlines in US to buy embraer than buy from a foreign owned company. with that being said, china has its own arj21 as well, so if japan misses out both american and chinese market, what will be left for them?
By the way, Japan have already have their planes. If you didn't know, more of the 40 percent of the Aircraft Boeing 787 and the winds are made in Japan. Not Dough why that aircraft is the most common over there.
Good job 👏👏👍
Alistides Izidory Thanks for your support :)
@@oneskyflyer thanks
It is NOT TRUE that MRJ has higher maintenance costs and a weaker support network. In fact, MHI recently acquired Bombardier to support this airplane, and the PW1200 is cheaper to maintain than the PW1700, so the facts were not correct on this.
PW1200 and PW1700 are virtually the same engine from PW. The Embraer's version has customized bleed valves (lessons learned ...).
@@carlosaugustoerthal8098 not the only difference
Nice
*neon eon* Thanks for your support!
Your welcome
Actually neither of them are scope clause compliant?
Don't know where you are taking these information from, but Embraer is better in every single way. The most advanced technology today is being used by Embraer and neither the M100 nor the M90 is more efficient than the Embraer's.
Quem é esse Mitsubishi perto dos veteranos E2?
As a classicalover ... so love the music
How do they compare to A220?
Not that much, 220 is the best
Amazing analysis, BUT experience of airlines using these aircraft will dictate the future market. Remember Airbus in the 70's, the A300 is a hard sell too but they offered free 3 A300 for them to use to an American airline. In the end, the airline bought more, and that how it sold it's reputation in the US. While in places like my Philippines, the Airbus rules because purchases from Boeing always has that political "conditions" such as purchasing security machines for airport supplied by an American company so the Philippine Airlines can qualify on that category so it can land at more airports in the USA.
E2 the best
ANA have 80 of them and JAL airlines have like 50 of them😁. They say on a speech that the 787 was very important to them
Both are good planes both the a220 still on the top
M100 is still a paper plane and probably will stay this way (13 years after the project launch). Japanese products are light a well made, but often show lack of robustness.
Embraer Brasil numero 1
@Executiva Crypto bostejando está você ..... Cadê as provas ou você inventa da sua mente de comunista satânica
Só existem dois tipos de brasileiro. O é o complexo de vira latas (nada brasileiro presta)., ou é o ufanista delirante (tudo brasileiro é o melhor do mundo).
Please correct your English. When one compares two things or two kinds of things, one must use the word "better" rather than "best." "Best" is used when there are MORE THAN TWO THINGS being compared. So you got it right in the title of the uploaded video, but the video itself gets it wrong. Let us respect our languages by adhering to their grammatical rules.
Embraer can save 737- Max, including the planes already in use, with a "transplant" of wings + the plane landing gear. In fact, the entire median section - containing the wings & the landing gear - minus the engines, in order to lift the engines. Therefore, MCAS won't be needed.
Mcas isn't needed for that
Give me some of this bourbon.
Mitsubishi M100 it looks like a copy of the Embraer familia e-jet
we get it, this channel hates Embraer
E-175 of corse
Embraer the best.
Só existem dois tipos de brasileiro. O é o complexo de vira latas (nada brasileiro presta)., ou é o ufanista delirante (tudo brasileiro é o melhor do mundo).
M100 nice
Embraer deveria fabricar um avião quadrimotor de longo alcance para que à FAB não precise comprar aviões da Airbus ou Boeing p presidência e sim uma aeronave brasileira!
E KC 390 também deveria ser quadrimotor de longo alcance e do tamanho do C17!
Bolsonaro reeleito em 2022!🇧🇷
Sim, eles vão gastar 2 bilhões de dólares para desenvolver um avião só para o Governo não ter que comprar um avião Boeing ou Airbus.
Embraer E2 >>>>>> Mitsubishi m100
MRJ forever
Mi canal TV Thanks for your comment. Well the M100 (or MRJ70) is a great airplane and Mitsubishi was smart in modifying the airplane to be extremely competitive in this scope clause market. Thanks for watching and if you have not done so do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great videos!
AirplaneProductions TV thanks!
MRJ Forever Project.
A EMBRAER não quer concorrer com os grandes e vai concorrer na faixa.
Embraer
Mitsubishi for me
Mastervenom 3 Thanks for your comment. Yep the Mitsubishi may not be as established in this commercial aircraft market but they have taken the opportunity to launch an all new jet tailored specifically for this “scope clause” market. Hence the SpaceJet has got impressive performances while Embraer has to severely reduce the capability of their E175-E2 in order to meet the Scope Clauses. Thanks for watching and if you have not done so do consider subscribing for more great videos!
The Mitsubishi is a compelling aircraft esp. so that it's also "Japanice!" I like a lot of things made in Japan, you know!
Yeng Sabio Thanks for your comment. Yep Japan is known for good build quality and reliability. I do hope that their aircraft will be workhorses for airlines and if they are, Japan could be a future competitor in the aviation industry! Thanks for watching and if you have not done so do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great videos!
They still been bad on aircrafts. By Know Airbus and boeing would continue to be the classic
Of course, the Mitsui is the better.
But in aviation, many times the goood enough is the winner..
Also, Mitsubishi has not even proved able to certificate its plane.🤷♂️
Embraer by a mile...
Japanese consistently make good products, from Cars to Electronics. Why not planes?
TJ King Thanks for your comment. Well Japan certainly does make good regional planes, and as they recently acquired the Bombardier CRJ family, they could put together an excellent aerospace cooperation to compete with Airbus and Boeing! Thanks for watching and if you have not done so consider subscribing for more great videos!
So Japanice!
Toyota and Honda make very good cars. Mitsubishi and Nissan make terrible cars.
@@eduardomeller6926 That true. But, in Japan the Nissan and Mi and pretty good you know.
They have one thing in common - both of them have terrible engines
Embraced offcurse you're not going to see any mitsubisi or Chinese chank flying in Europe!
Without the AMERICAN jet engines NEITHER plane gets off the ground !!!!
Wilbur Finnigan Haha! Well yep both are powered by Pratt engines, in fact most engines are from the United States apart from Rolls Royce. Thanks for watching and if you like this video and have not done so do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great videos!
WHAT A JOKE OF MAL LIKE, CARE WITH YOUR LANGUAGE
Is ROLLS ROYCE american company?
The PW GTW tech is impressive. They are the quietest and the most efficient engines.
And those engines will never fly without the plane🤷♂️