Rob Rosen Reveals His Ultimate Synth Collection
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- I hope you enjoy this rare opportunity to visit with my close friend Rob Rosen for a deep dive into his ultimate vintage synth collection. Together, we’ll see inside some of the rarest synthesizers of all-time and learn from this master technician how synthesizers have evolved, what makes them tick and why synthesizers make such cool sounds!
I consider Rob’s shop @Rosen Sound ground zero for anything relating to synthesizers. It’s also the biggest wonderland of vintage synths in perfect working order that you’ll ever see .
Rob is a self-taught technician and is now the world leader for repair, restoration, custom manufacturing and sales of vintage synthesizers. He’s also quite an accomplished musician programmer and keyboard player as well.
00:00:01 Intro Anthony on the street in Burbank, CA
00:01:55 Entering Inside Rosen Sound
00:02:06 Meeting “P” from Chromeo and The Rosen Sound Team
00:03:06 Rob shows us his personal work space
00:11:42 Montage of Synths - Start
00:12:35 Montage of Synths - End
00:12:36 Anthony and Rob in “The Cabin” - a wonderland of vintage synths
00:13:42 Anthony explains and demonstrates features on the CS-80
00:20:36 CS-80 “Under the Hood” in-depth tour by Rob
00:53:31 Prophet 5 “Under the Hood” in-depth tour by Rob
01:12:50 Anthony Demonstrates some of the Juno 106 sounds
01:19:27 Juno-106 “Under the Hood” in-depth tour by Rob
01:28:54 One-of-a-Kind Oberheim Modular 8 Voice System tour by Rob
01:35:31 Anthony asks Rob 20 Questions about Synthesizers
01:39:09 Rob asks Anthony some Questions about Synthesizers
01:49:47 Bass Shootout: 1973 Moog System 55 VS ARP 2600
01:54:54 Shoot Out Conclusion and Bass Tips
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holy cow! This RUclips video is the future we were promised - television showing exactly what we want, instead of for the largest possible audience! Wunderbar!
I think about this all the time. Truly an amazing time to be alive
My eyes teared up a little when they turned the OBX8 voice around to see the back of it. Stendhal syndrome moment for sure. So beautiful. A chaotic marvel. God bless the geniuses that make these gorgeous soulful instruments. It's easy to forget the miraculous human achievements in the technologies that surround us every day. What a time to be alive.
There was this guy I bought a full Roland System 100 from in Sydney Australia, around 1997. His name was Dave... he honestly had 2 more full system 100's, Minimoogs, Korg PS-3100, Yamaha CS60... this was just the stuff I saw. The was a heap more there.
He had a mixing desk from an radio station (Triple M), a massive wooden Marimba. At that time he lived in an old warehouse around the St. Peters area. He said he was in a band in the 80s that toured Japan.
What an utterly captivating 2 hours of informative video. To see the insides of these vintage analog synths, and hear from an expert on their inner workings, is pure entertainment.
SO much value. Thank you Anthony, I am 20 years old and only recently got into Michael Jackson and the 80s sound. You're truly a pioneer. As a musician, there is so much to unpack and to learn from and i'm very grateful to have firsthand access to this knowledge.
I just wanted to acknowledge my appreciation for your stuff. Thank you. I hope this channel gets the platform it so deserves
Good luck dude!
Amazing collection of synths there. Basically a more or less complete collection of all major classic analog synths.
This is the most informative video I have ever seen on synthesis. I want to spend 8 hours talking with this guy! Freakin' guru!
Officially one of my favorite videos on RUclips. full stop.
Another amazing watch! Thanks for these 💎💎💎
Glad you like them!
Around 30 minutes in, Mr. Marinelli asks how oscillators make sound, and I want to see if I understand it right. The VCO has a capacitor that gets charged, and quickly discharges when it hits a threshold. The amount of time it takes to get to that threshold is determined by the voltage coming in, which determines the pitch, but the amount of time it takes to discharge is constant (?), which is what determines the waveform- in the case of the CS80, sawtooth. This signal is then sent out of the oscillator and processed, but it’s not a sound until it is sent to a speaker. Once the signal gets to the speaker, it’s kind of similar to the capacitor, I think, but now it is a magnet that’s being driven back and forth by the signal. So, absent any other processing besides amplification, the speaker cone’s movement would mirror the charging and discharging of the capacitor in the VCO. As the signal ramps up, the speaker cone moves in one direction, and then when the signal drops, it quickly returns to its starting position. This in turn moves the air in the room or headphones as the case may be. When the cone moves out, air pressure increases, cone moves back, air pressure decreases. Our ear drums detect these fluctuations in air pressure and nerves in our inner ear actually convert it into a new electrical signal, and our brains then interpret it as a sound. And we can tell the waveform, pitch, frequency, and all that other stuff going on and deduce the whole process that created it, and troubleshoot if something goes wrong. Can anyone say if I got that all correctly?? Fascinating stuff..
"People want the long answers". Profound words Rob. This is the greatest thing I have seen on RUclips. Thank you Anthony!
This channel is steadily becoming one of the best synths channel on RUclips. I really really enjoy Anthony and his knowledge on things. I'm learning a lot of things about synthesis and arrangment.
Agreed. It’s getting good . Real good .
Fantastic channel. Anthony has a great vibe!
Man your not kidding. I started messing with these things in the mid to late 70’s then gradually got into other things like Hammonds( b3). But still love synths and I find I’m getting back into them at 60plus years old.
Oh man, that Juno... 😭. I had one in beautiful shape and traded it... Definitely a regret 😞. Maybe I'll find another someday
Agreed. These behind the scenes & historical deep dives are compelling viewing.
How lucky we are to listen to you guys and witness your beautiful friendship too. Much love ! ❤ 🤗
I love this stuff. The CS-80 is very compact compared to the Oberheim Eight Voice! You're not gonna carry the Oberheim up the stairs yourself!
Just FYI, if you're going to fly around a room like 11:42 you'd probably be better off using an iPhone in Action Mode if you're not using a gimbal. The camera is moving dramatically through all three axes, and there's massive blur. It's hard to watch when it's not stable in at least one axis. The shutter angle determines how much the frames blur together, and it looks like it's manually been set higher than 180° which is very high. If you're not going for a trippy/dreamy/nauseating look you need a tighter shutter with a higher ISO. Also it looks like this was shot in 24 FPS then converted to 30 FPS, which adds a stutter during panning.
Dude, this is like watching music making left and right brain going deep…epic. Even more psyched I held on to my few Moog, Roland and Korg devices. I don’t use them much for actual projects, but they do feel good just making noise with abandon 😊 Thanks friends.
Incredibly insightful video. Profound, enlightening, and unexpectedly moving ♥
This video is so fascinating. Thanks Anthony and Rob for teaching us in this level of detail. It really helps to appreciate the complexity of synths.
now , do your own studio , this was really good show !
This was amazing!! I watched the whole thing and enjoyed every minute. I have a few of those wonderful synths, some real and some are clones I built, and I love them all. I even have BlackCorp's Deckard's Dream & Expander, KIJIMI and ISE-NIN. Can't wait to see what you do with your Sherman Filterbank because I have one of those too... but I'm still learning how to use it. 🙂
Golden content, lets go dude!
An absolutely amazing experience. Thank you both so much for this.
THAT was AWESOME!!!!.............I WANT MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Incredible that the CS-80 ever stays in tune for longer than a few minutes.
I used an ARP 2600 as a music student in South Africa and loved it. I still have photographs from 1992.
This was so cool! Thanks guys!❤
That's an enviable collection, and an enviable workshop! I'm also a self-taught synth repair tech and I know damn well how much work it is. That's a great achievement. And a lovely video as well, thank you for making it :)
Rob seems so cool, thanks Anthony! Also, P-Thugg!!!
Omg so cool p was in the shop. Ofc he was!
AMAZING is all I can say, mind BLOWN with Rob and Anthony!
Bravo ! 🙂 Thank you Anthony, and Rob, for this great video. Being a geek who has learned electronics, works in IT, plays the piano, and owns a couple of synths, this was amazing. Mercy ! 🙂
Absolutely incredible
CS80/60/50 are all magical instruments, instruments from another world.
@1:54:10 That sounds awesome! 2600 for the win!!
Amazing. Ty so very much for this.
Woooooh, I just finished watching it. What a wild ride! Loved every minute. Thanks so much!
Awesome , mind boggling ! Thank you all 🙏
So MUCH Gold in this. How can I not Sub. You're a blessing to someone like me who craves to learn the "bread n butter" patch designs and history. Sometimes (Often times) one gets wrapped up in How Much a synth can do or modules be routed these days, but often one like me Misses the fundamentals of design and the importance (vs neccessity) of knowing how a real PRO Thinks about design. Incredible resource. I Thank you OH, and I Highly appreciate the one-of-a-kind tour we got here from you and Rob 🙏
Great guy Rob
Wow, thanks for this ❤
Hi people,
I play bassguitar...
But, I love old synths! They’re a huge inspiration!
I play in a band where we play a lot of late ‘70’s Bowie, Gary Numan and Depeche Mode. It’s my job to play halve of the synth sounds.
So I play synth sounds too. Mostly mixed with dry bass sounds. If I can with one of my own simple synths, but mostly with my bassguitar and various (a lot of, 🤣) pedals. I use PA speakers onstage to get all the frequencies...
That CS-80 is a beauty! Very inspirational. She’s so warm and dynamic! 🎯
Cheers!
🖖
Wow thanks to you and Rob Rosen! Awesome!
Love the passion and knowledge being shared here.
This is so great!! So grateful you are sharing this information Anthony! I am a huge fan
Fantastic thank you 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
I am an electrical engineer and took my electrical materials course and people forget digital is very analog. The states of zero and on transistors is like a cranked distortion pedal so above a threshold all the signal saturate to maximum power or 1. So you do not even need dip pins to have digital logic.
22:53 OMG that kinda blew my mind when he lifted up the keyboard. That’s a lot crazier than opening an old drum machine. The only thing I’ve seen close to the CS-80 is some late ‘70s and very early ‘80s pinball machines. But the density is a lot higher. It’s more like the hand-wired memory module for the Apollo rockets.
I really enjoyed this video as I'm a huge nerd with synth sounds but also with synth guts and seeing the guts of the CS-80 was like the pinnacle of synthp0rn 🥵🥵🥵
Thank you Anthony and Bob for this amazing tour through the eras of synths and electronics innovations 🤗
Thanks for that gem of synth Video ❤❤❤❤
Great job on the comparison. Behringer do a great job on their recreations. I just think they should change their name something more fitting to what they do
Really nice video! thanks
Fascinating video! Super Nice people! All the best from Berlin! 🤖
Hey Anthony,next you must
interview the synth fixer guru Kent Spong in UK :)
This video is Epic
Wow ! Amazing videos, please keep them coming :)
Wow! I'd love a CS-80 but i need my kidneys. Can't afford to sell them just to get the money for a big monster synth.How the heck did anyone design this? Genius! As you were doing the quick run around with your camera, I could swear i saw an old MiniKorg. I still have mine! I hve to take it to Synths When here in Toronto for some TLC. As well as my old PolySix..
By the way the question you ask at 20:10 what CS stands for. I think CS stands for "Control Syntheziser". And why do I think that? Well if you remeber the blue CS1x Yamaha made. On that one it is written "Yamaha CS1x Control Syntheziser" So that is my guess, I could be wrong.
Incredible stuff!! 🤯
Fantastic work!
I own a huge vintage synth collection( OBXa, Minimoog , Source, E1 to E4 , Dmx , 808, P5 , VP330, Arp Omni , korg ms20, etc ) and i think the cheapest best sounding vintage synth is definitely the juno 106
beautiful friendship !
Really good video, learned a lot!
💛💛💛
No mention of the CS-70M. :-P
1:31:49 "I do my own stunts"...lol
I watched this TV show on UFOs in this beach port in Canada, I think the guy that was recording underwater sounds had a Moog Modular in the background??
Would like to hear both your opinions on the Behringer 2600.
Great video guys.
They don't have to bother w an opinion on the Behringer! Would they even have bothered to try one?? :)
@@sn1000k more on the opinion whether they think putting more affordable vintage synths in people's hands, not the capitalism or testing side of things.
@@gixerags750 I hear you
I saw two synth demigods having a chat at Olympus for all of us mortal “synthers” to witness and enjoy.
Funny how all that analog and early digital hardware has been eclipsed by software and small digital synths today. Basically, this is the transition from analog to digital electronic hardware. Didn't see any Buchla. Impressive!
Great video, I enjoyed a lot! Does Rob Rosen has a RUclips channel?
Not yet but his Instagram is amazing @rosen_sound
I do not care if the sound i generate sounds good. I am happy when all my gear runs in sync ;)
aHH-fCUKiN-mAAAAAAAAAAAZiNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you!
Is the sound of synths recorded from room mic ?
So far for the moog modular myth, that 2600 kicked it's butt 10 times over
This video is incredible ! RUclips at its best, period.
This is one of the best synth videos I have ever seen. I remember coming across a cachet of 1970s magazines back in the 80s/90s and remember the initial UK reviews of the Prophet and CS80... the prices were similar to the price of a small terraced house in my town. I'd never really thought much of the CS80 until now... what an amazing timbre especially with the ring mod...
Can confirm that this is one of the most magical rooms you’ll ever step foot in if you love synths.
This ruled. The ARP 2600 sounded better to me than the Moog Modular. Both were nice, ARP just sounds cooler to my ears.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Rob and Anthony! Phenomenal video guys! Genuine friendship vibes, and the depth of knowledge in your respective areas of expertise, kept us glued to the screen.
Your videos are getting more and more addictive Anthony! This was fascinatingly detailed and nostalgic.
Anthonyl
Watched this live and really enjoyed it. Thanks, Anthony! I'm a career neuroscientist and professor who's also a musician and synth enthusiast. Digging all your content from both artistic and technical depth. Cheers from San Diego. 🧠🤘🏻
I also own a EMS Sinthy A and a 909, sadly sold my mint 808 12 years ago and my 2600, yet own tons of jewels... and more to come. Prophet 2002+ coming from Germany now ( got 2 in the 90s), great trick yours with the 2600. I do with my Minimoog. Bob signed it for me in Barcelona one year before he passed away. Moog module with a real clock on it, funny!
Ahhhh So great! I love that y’all started shooting from the street,walking with the crew,cables n all,that’s the real juice right there,everyone literally in creative motion. Keep em coming,Respect to you and the crew,as well and Rob and the Rosen fam. This is beautiful stuff man. Bravo.⚡️🤘🏻⚡️
OH WOW! So, I thought I would have to break the viewing of this into more than one session, but I just could not stop watching! Very engrossing video. I felt like I was just hanging out with two synth nerds. Although I am no expert player or tech, I was able to follow along fairly well, but I did learn quite a bit as well! Excellent content! I was grinning from ear to ear through the whole video and even clapping at times. Like Anthony stated, it's so great when you have someone with whom you can share the enthusiasm of a subject and really just roll on and on. I could have watched an even longer video and enjoyed every minute. The 20 questions section was great! The shoot-out at the end was incredible! I just gotta get the patch info for that 2600 bass sound! Looking forward to it, Anthony! Very much looking forward to more phenomenal content like this. A real treat for sure.
18:58 ouch. mah boi just dissed the CS-80 organ sound!!! ref vintage/digital... it's like which is easier to tinker with? 1967 car or 2024? Everything is computerized with huge specialized IC chips. If you don't have the diagnostic to test a particular chip... well, it makes it a lot more difficult. I would assume that is also a reason why Rob works MOSTLY on the analog stuff. Most of the inner guts are more exposed and simple. AND for pro synth/key players who own really old synths, he can make $ fixing them whereas a newer keyboard would cost him too much time researching what he needs and prob buying some new test equipment. Profit is a factor. Profit, not Prophet. :) interesting vid.
Rosen Sounds Synth Cabin is amazing! I would also love to see a tour of your studio!
Astounding work and knowledge ! Thanks for such a lucky opportunity for you guys spending so much time on sharing all this ! It has never been seen and explained so well.... a documentary that will stay forever in synths history !
Wish I had a "team". :)
Great production! Love this stuff.
Smells vintage, so its probably very expensive 😂
32:49 he says as he accidentally touches the leads to a large capacitor. hehehe
What a collection, this is a great video, for the synthesizer junkie!!!!!!!
This is such a great channel and video. You really go into a deep dive of why these older synthesizers are so special.
As someone who is currently designing my own synth I really love this! Yes the hakko fx 88d is the boss! And to all those diyers out there; you dont need an expensive scope. All I have is a crappy ebay kit scope and its been enough. And for my dmm im using a cheap Aldi multimeter from 2009 and its bang on :)
I expect to see little Sims people walking around and screaming when Rob pulls out the "city" cards with parks and warehouses.
Thank you both, Anthony & Rob!! What a rare treat to see the synths inside out.
Love the inside tour of the CS80, Prophet 5, and Juno 106. Surprising how well the ARP stands up to the Moog!
1:06:47 ...and on the 3rd of November, 1977 the Prophet 5 became sentient/conscious!
OH MAN, OH MAN, OH MAN! A two-hour video at RosenSound?!! I may have to watch in sections. This is gonna be epic! So happy to see this!
P-Thugg! Love Chromeo, that was cool 👍
Awesome ❤❤❤❤
Thank you! Cheers!
22:00 and I thought the inside of my Hammond looked like a nightmare! Mad respect to the people who designed and built those machines!
Please sell me just one of those Oberheim blank panels. Share the love, my friend.
I think he said they sell them
1:56:47 _"If you're having trouble thinking of which one you'd rather have - it's better to just get both."_
Don't ever kid with us again, Rob. :D Ahahaha! $$$,$$$.$$