@@omblae I 100% woulda gotten fired for this. I'm the guy in the back room "skateboarding" on pallet jacks every time theres no manager around LOL (grocery store, not tesla obviously)
I got to tour the gigafactory in 7th grade, it was in my robotics class field trip, it was pretty cool, they have automated robots named after star wars characters
@@toonpunie I think the graphene pipe dream is a super energy dense capacitor which would act as a pseudo battery. Instead of using chemical energy it would store electrons directly in the matrix. Meaning you could charge a phone in seconds. Feel like we’re decades off from that though. If we could ever even make more that a fingernails worth.
The life of Elon Musk, his factories , his employees, his investors and his school, should become a subject taught at every school and university in the world. So no more cheating , bullying, laziness, time wasting and neglect happens in society and businesses. In addition, so highly intelligent, sophisticated children can be given the chance to succeed very quickly and climb the success ladder, in many aspects of life , technology and economics.
@@newsgetsold Even then, these robots need to go to dump out that old fluid, reload on new fluid, etc. like oil change in a car. So eventually they need to go to the loo. 🤣
@@ad-skyobsidion4267 if you can distribute fuel all over the world, you can distribute electricity. This is only the beginning. The threat I see is using nukes for electricity generation.
@@librab103 And yes, there was an interesting instability in the toilet paper market, but that is understood by now. In short: There was a lock down, everybody used the toilet at home. The paper used in offices is different, very large rolls. An the two variants of paper come from completely different supply chains.
Me: Lemme go on youtube I might see some interesting stuff. RUclips: Wanna see thousands of batteries rolling? Thousands of people: That's interesting.
One can't expect an employee to have the same motivation as the business owner. An employee is grateful for a career that funds their way of life indefinitely (with a bit of luck). A business owner wants to make a trillion dollars out of their investment and continue further or move on. Clever employers play with the above to achieve the best out of people - to get what is wanted for all, but they are rare. Kindness (not a pushover though), deligation, consideration and recognition of the ambitions of others (not wanting it all for themselves), is a sustainable way to go.
Currently all their recycling needs are met by outsourcing to a company that does much of the work by hand. It is expensive, but has to be done that way because that company handles much more than just Tesla batteries. (It is still much cheaper than buying raw materials.) However musk made it public that they are planning to entirely automate the process with their new cell architecture. This will not be too difficult, because every call will be identical.
@@thermophile2106 i would like to know what happens to Tesla batteries different that to all other batteries that get dispossed(recycled) in soil. Global warming happens from changing landshafts, removing trees, digging crators into Earth, processing materials, and transporting it to Tesla. What happens to used batteries afterwards is still an issue if its not the same lithium that can be used in Tesla again.
@@PazLeBon used teslas not particularly well holding re-sale price. I would even say loose value exponentially fast. It is probably has to do with simple physics of baterries. If capacity is lost by 30% you are locked withing one city. If fast charging disabled you will only be reasonable using over night charges. In cold climates (like I have today feels like -40C) leave Tesla outside for 2 weeks. Gasoline cars never claimed to be enviromentally good but so is Tesla claim is false. Recycling of composites, and baterries always the worst. Lead batteries are 90-95% recyclable. In fact simplicity even makes it cheaper to make new battery from the old one. Whereas Tesla supliers will be digging cheap lithium from Brazilian soil producing more damage than all carbs that come from gas cars.
It's probably been said often that some of the smartest, more successful people are some of the schrudest and most difficult to deal with. To lead people push folks to their limit with no care for making friends. Steve jobs also excelled at this.
There’s no room in business for feelings and especially no room for someone who whines about being “tired”. Money never sleeps so why should I. I live by that motto and I retired at age 31. Society is to lazy. They complain and need sleep or get feelings hurt. Get out of here.
You can't compare Elon Musk with Steve Jobs. While Steve Jobs was excellent to push other to accomplish things he could never do by himself, Elon just expects everyone to work as hard as he is doing. Which is insane. (The end result ist the same). Btw, Elon Musk is an Engineer in the first place who also happens to be the CEO.
@@Steppenkater the problem is Musk doesn't work hard yet takes all the credit. Musk isn't an engineer by education or trade. He is a con man who has gotten people drinking the kool aid.
@@thatteslacat6334 Reduce, but yes. The LFP has none. The Nickel Manganese has less. They are still planning a high nickel, and they are trying to line up some supply. They had talked to Indonesia.
I'm sorry but this is just unwatchable! The video may be fine but the audio is excruciating. Please learn to talk without dropping your voice all the time. Half of your words are unintelligible.
ehh... sorta. If you're talking about Tesla's older batteries, then that is partially true, however it is still owned by Tesla. Tesla's new 4680 battery is being completely produced by them however, as seen in the 'making batteries' video.
The 4680 battery has a ways to go before production and vehicle utilization. Probably no existing model will use them as of massive engineering interruption.
@@wphubert there will be no engineering interruption as tesla is making a new production line in some forgotten place on earth... Berlin. So starts there and it will slowly spread out. Cars will just adopt different battery packs....
Perhaps what was meant was a battery that’s free of both lithium and cobalt rather than a lithium free, lithium battery. I believe there are various other developments in the pipeline that may or may not come to fruition, one that comes to mind is sodium iron.
There's work on replacing lithium with sodium or fluoride. The hope is to replace lithium with a more plentiful element with a lower environmental impact. Also, improving energy to mass and energy to volume ratios could improve drone technology and enable electric airplanes.
There were a couple of misleading/unresearched things in this video, but you hit on one of them. They are going Cobalt-free, but Lithium is not inherently unethical and they're not looking to reduce lithium supply. They're actually looking to increase availability of supply by opening new Lithium reserves that aren't dependent on a brine method of extraction.
@@alexl266 Yes your quite right on that, in the U.K. a company is actively exploring lithium reserves in Cornwall, which I’m led to believe will hopefully supply all the U.K. battery needs.
@@MatthewStinar I am not saying it is not possible, but Tesla is to the best of my knowledge not researching it, as lithium potential is far from reached. Lithium-sulfur or Lithium-air batteries could more than tenfold the capacity. On top, lithium is not rare, it is hard to mine. The current known, and mineable reserves would last for over 1000 years, and most the lithium on earth is in the ocean (around 230 billion tones) which would last almost indefinitely as we only use around 80.000 tones a year. As mining technologies improve, lithium will be easier accessible, cheaper and environmentally friendlier.
This video shows some out of date understanding from the start. The issue with electric cars, and Tesla in particular, isn't the electric storage amount. Tesla's can do almost 500 miles on one charge now. The issue is charging time.
It's true that the vehicles have good range, but they still lack in important areas. Specific energy (energy per kg) of the batteries still pales in comparison to that of gasoline, so the batteries in Tesla vehicles are extremely large, heavy, and expensive. Li-ion batteries are only improving in specific energy by a few percent per year, but are more than an order of magnitude lower in specific energy than gasoline. If you calculate how far an electric car can go when driving uphill or towing something, range plummets (more than gasoline, because ICE vehicles are more efficient under a heavy load). Making better batteries is a huge barrier to making electric cars globally affordable and sustainable, and arguably the primary one. Charging infrastructure will follow suit, as better batteries will make charging infrastructure more affordable when fewer stations are needed.
The video's understanding was perfectly fine. You're the one who's misunderstanding here, bud. Charge rate is not good, yes, but range is *absolutely* still the main problem with electric vehicles. Not necessarily because EVs are incapable of getting good range, but because the extra cost from the additional batteries makes them uncompetitive against ICE vehicles. In order to make any meaningful impact in the current vehicle market, battery costs are going to need to go down. Charge time is definitely second in priority to range, because at the end of the day you can always just use a supercharger and pump obscene amounts of electricity into your battery pack for a fill-up in just 20 minutes.
@@randxalthor What difference does it make to the driver how heavy the batteries are? They are set low and distributed so it helps stability and they contain more range than 99.9% of drivers will ever need on a given day. And despite their weight, they still out accelerate muscle cars.
@@mindle9155 You just seemed to defeat your own point bud. If you can fill up in 20 mins then your point about range is mute. Sure, even taking a cup of joe while you charge up might be annoying but I'm guessing that if you just drove 400 miles then it's probably a good thing: safer for both you and other drivers. I also foresee drivers going on autopilot and a charge vehicle coming up behind you, connecting and driving along with you while it recharges you for 20 minutes. So range is not an issue at all. Especially when 99.9% of journeys will never even have to face that issue. So your only argument is price. If Musk manages to make a $35k Tesla then that won't be an issue either. And also now that Toyota and most other car manufacturers are going electric, the competition will drive even more innovation. Within 20 years the most common electric car on the road will be a sub $20k car. You are like the people who raised very reasonable points about how problematic it was to own a first generation combustion engine car compared to a horse and buggy.
@@NR-rv8rz no, you entirely missed my point. the problem with range is that if you want better range you have to pay significantly more for it, which is an issue when you consider that there are not a lot of chargers out there atm. You need enough range to make it to the next charger, and unless you're traveling along electric roads, there is a very real possibility that if you don't fork over the cash for extra range, then you just won't be able to make it to your destination.
Hi Tech Vision. What happened to the Robin Hood video? Why did you private it? Did someone make you do it and will you re-upload it again after some time?
That is exactly their disadvantage. They build with a lot of very small cells. Since each one has to be wired several times, once for balancing and once for use, the risk of error increases with each cell. Above all, it is bad that they use round cells, because the electrode is heated when connecting them. Risk of failure. Above all, the industry standard beyond Tesla is to put only twelve, sometimes 18 cells in a module. Thus, all monitoring components located in the module and centrally are also industry standard and correspondingly reliable and inexpensive. Above all, it is a question of effort: No matter how automated it is - for a Model S battery, 8256 cells have to be processed in many steps. That costs. For a Mercedes EQS battery, it's 12 modules of 18 cells, or only 216 cells.
I have been that person >.< Also, never 100% wire guide forklift systems!!!! A piece of banding on the floor messed with the wire guide on my lift once, ( worked in a massive warehouse, to the point we had dedicated highways inside for fast lift travel ) sent me and a 13000 lbs forklift through a brick wall at 35 mph. The forklift was fine, I broke 2 ribs.
On the battery tech, you have left key some information out...Panasonic is not the only supplier, their biggest battery supplier now is CATL, China, and LG Chem, Korea.
Nice video, one thing to point out though is you said Lithium is rare and has ethic issues, I think you are thinking of Cobalt. Lithium is actually pretty common in soil (another reason why tesla chose Nevada for gigafactory), and cobalt is a rare metal that is controversial because there are human rights violations common in the cobalt supply chain. (Child labor) On battery day they mentioned they would be extracting lithium from soil I'm Nevada, and removing cobalt entirely in the future 4680 cells.
Every video is awesome. And i am the regular watcher... Big fan of your every content. Its really helpful as a engineering student. But i request to you... there have many friend, they are not Professional English speaking people as like as me. So if you keep little bit slow and more clear of your content it must be helpful. Thank you... Big fan.
@@audigex The goal is not to make EVs it is to accelerate the transition to sustainable energy. The "others" are working extremely slow you can not classify anything they are doing with the term "accelerating"
@@joekr9424 Plus, big oil and big auto have been colluding on destroying any EV competition through media manipulation or bribing lawmakers to go tough on EV automakers This is how they remained on using ICE for a long time
@@albaraqahtani Yes also, ICE is still more economical because the ICE makers refused to put money into EV tech. Elon forced their hand and will put them out of business for this stupid and bad behavior.
Not necessarily because most batteries can't be scaled like that (not saying they couldn't do the research for phone batteries, but it's not worth the time and resources for them to)
This is pretty amusing. The company I work for is a certified Powerwall installer and we haven't been able to get new batteries from them for more than 6 months (and we aren't alone in that). And availability for 2021 is looking marginal - we'll get some, but availability will continue to be the limiting constraint on how many we can sell to customers.
COVID has changed so much for most technology-companies. I'm 'just' a simple electrician that gets to deal with quite a lot of electronics, but even we are facing huge delays in rather standard microprocessor-shipments. So it could very well be it's not only the resources for the batteries that are a problem, but certainly all the silicon required for everything to turn a bunch of lithium-cells into a working battery, whether it is a powerwall or a car-battery.
How would you eliminate lithium from the production process? What else would you make the batteries out of? I’ve only heard talk of eliminating cobalt.
@@seankerr1187 see...the problem is that when you use hyperbole like that it doesn't so much emphasize your point as it does show demagoguey in action.
@@misteratoz uhm had you majored in some form of engineering, electrical,meche, comp, you would understand the enthusiasm within the community to work for him. Sorry we can't all get in
'Battery tech has lagged behind'. Nonsense. Battery price and energy density follow reliable curves just like almost any other technology. Also when you suggest Tesla would want to get rid of Panasonic, you are mistaken. Tesla wants all the batteries it can get its hands on, and will keep Panasonic as long as they can, even when they have multiple inhouse battery cell lines.
Misleading. Musk has been very clear their own battery production complements their suppliers. They will literally "buy everything you can make" as he said in the last earnings call.
This video left out critical info on just how serious Tesla is about ramping up battery production. To Tesla, a cheap and plentiful battery supply is absolutely essential to their mission to electrify the World's automotive industry. Tesla's Battery Day laid out their ambitious goal of 2 terawatts/year production by 2030. This is a whole order of magnitude more than what the world is currently producing. Tesla has pledged to buy EVERY extra battery their partners can produce but they know even that wil not be enough---thus they will build their own battery production lines to feed their factories. This the only way to assure success in their ambitious goal.
Amazing just how this technology came about and is still evolving. If they can solve the range issue of 255 miles and double that to 450 on a single charger good bye combustion engines.
I think I'm fine with how Elon pushes his business partners harshly. imagine making a historical giant of a business produce new, better and more efficient batteries just because you told them off. Because of that push, Panasonic was able to develop better batteries instead of being complacent with the old batteries they made. Had not Elon push his partners to their limits/best form yet, we would not have cars with better battery capacity today. ps. "excellence requires discomfort" - T.D. Jakes
15 million sq ft? Hm. Maybe the levels inside it? I just looked it up on maps, outlined it and got a bit less than 2 million sq ft. Awaiting explanation.
Your math is almost correct, but, you need to sum every single floor of the building to have the exact amount of sq ft! Ex:. If you have a 3 floor building, each one of those with 100sqft, than, your entire building will be 300sqft, but if you look in the google maps, you will find that the area that your building occupy is only 100sqft! Ps. Sorry for my Bad English!!
@@henriquefontaine5572 Yeah, my "maybe the levels inside?" idea is what you explained, we both theorize the same thing. Factories mostly not leveled and wht you an dI theorize here requires 7 levels, at least. This still highly unlikely. Somebody with another explanation?
If you play this at 2x they make them even faster.
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I like how the robots carrying some batteries have a sign saying "no riding"
that 100% just ruined someone at the factory's plans
You noticed too
You gotta be Asian
3:27
Someone at the factory already tried it, hence why there's a sign.
@@omblae I 100% woulda gotten fired for this. I'm the guy in the back room "skateboarding" on pallet jacks every time theres no manager around LOL (grocery store, not tesla obviously)
"The ruthless pursuit of excellence" requires strong coffee.
I swear 😄😄
The coffee is awesome
Coffee is a diet for success
And stealing 1billion in cash from the tax payers and not paying it back.
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The way you edit your videos, without using your face cam makes it seem like I’m watching a movie! I love it
Wouldn’t hurt to see that sexy face tho
Yeah it’s really well edited
@Tim Cutbush
Many footages are Errol news stations & MKBHD which it’s nice that he credited them
I got to tour the gigafactory in 7th grade, it was in my robotics class field trip, it was pretty cool, they have automated robots named after star wars characters
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@@ledsalesoz there's yoda too
@@ilillililil5042 We've also named our automated fault detection submitter "Jarvis" at Giga Nevada.
in the old days, half that 7th grade would be employed in these factories
@@maggotdude667 that's cool, I went to gigafactory in sparks
At 5:58 - Lithium is not "ethically problematic" whereas cobalt is! Lithium will not be eliminated from their processes any time soon!
I think he meant Cobalt
@@iKingRPG He said "Cobalt" AND "Lithium". Which is wrong. Eliminating Lithium makes no sense :)
@@Steppenkater What about graphene batteries?
@@toonpunie I think the graphene pipe dream is a super energy dense capacitor which would act as a pseudo battery. Instead of using chemical energy it would store electrons directly in the matrix. Meaning you could charge a phone in seconds. Feel like we’re decades off from that though. If we could ever even make more that a fingernails worth.
@@jesselanting3931 Yes, totally agree. We are still far from it. High cost and complexity of implementation.
The life of Elon Musk, his factories , his employees, his investors and his school, should become a subject taught at every school and university in the world. So no more cheating , bullying, laziness, time wasting and neglect happens in society and businesses. In addition, so highly intelligent, sophisticated children can be given the chance to succeed very quickly and climb the success ladder, in many aspects of life , technology and economics.
It is both ways, man. If as you said, at the end of the life, one can say I have a perfect robotic life.
Great video, no nonsense; exactly what most people appreciate and want.
It won’t be truly automated until, instead of each employee going to the bathroom, the bathroom goes to each individual.
Or that robots start going to the bathroom...
They could all wear a catheter like a fighter pilot... or hospital patient.
@@newsgetsold
Even then, these robots need to go to dump out that old fluid, reload on new fluid, etc.
like oil change in a car.
So eventually they need to go to the loo. 🤣
Nah, missed the boat - bathroom stall at the workstation. You expect to stop working to use a restroom?! pfft.
There's some first-principle thinking!
The only thing I understood in this video was that the coffee was strong...
Just RUclips more of the videos about the factories, all will become clearer and easily understood.
What coffee......??????
Now we got the recipe for success: If the coffee is strong enough ... everything else will settle somehow. ;)
because you're an idiot
@@_Super_Hans_ actually your the idiot 😳
Excellent, I learned somethings I didn’t know. Thank you!
Give us electric mopeds, Tesla. That would perhaps revolutionize air quality in third world cities.
That would be awesome but if Tesla made them, third world people couldn't afford them.
@@nunya___ Perhaps not many will afford today, but it will give a great momentum for other companies to go the same path.
Also where would they be charged
@@ad-skyobsidion4267 if you can distribute fuel all over the world, you can distribute electricity. This is only the beginning. The threat I see is using nukes for electricity generation.
@@George-kq7qc wha?
The coffee at the gigafactory said to be insanely strong. Haha
"German coffee"? :-)
I am told they do not get coffee just like they do not get toilet paper!
@@librab103 Basically, we convert coffee into software. That' how we build strong software!
@@librab103 And yes, there was an interesting instability in the toilet paper market, but that is understood by now.
In short: There was a lock down, everybody used the toilet at home. The paper used in offices is different, very large rolls. An the two variants of paper come from completely different supply chains.
Its good coffee. We had 5 different types
I work in the Tesla Fremont Design Engineering facility and can confirm that the coffee hits different.
Have you had the pleasure of meeting the man?
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@@ahern1221 No but I get to see/work on things. Many things🙊
Me: Lemme go on youtube I might see some interesting stuff.
RUclips: Wanna see thousands of batteries rolling?
Thousands of people: That's interesting.
Love your videos, crisp and brief
One can't expect an employee to have the same motivation as the business owner. An employee is grateful for a career that funds their way of life indefinitely (with a bit of luck). A business owner wants to make a trillion dollars out of their investment and continue further or move on. Clever employers play with the above to achieve the best out of people - to get what is wanted for all, but they are rare. Kindness (not a pushover though), deligation, consideration and recognition of the ambitions of others (not wanting it all for themselves), is a sustainable way to go.
Great video, but the 4680 manufacturing process will be (is) more insane.
yes, the recent video showing ROADRUNNER plant is a S M A L L taste of things to come
Nothing like solid state batteries.
I want to see the machine that rapidly and easily disassembles these and recycles all the materials.
Currently all their recycling needs are met by outsourcing to a company that does much of the work by hand. It is expensive, but has to be done that way because that company handles much more than just Tesla batteries. (It is still much cheaper than buying raw materials.)
However musk made it public that they are planning to entirely automate the process with their new cell architecture. This will not be too difficult, because every call will be identical.
@@thermophile2106 i would like to know what happens to Tesla batteries different that to all other batteries that get dispossed(recycled) in soil. Global warming happens from changing landshafts, removing trees, digging crators into Earth, processing materials, and transporting it to Tesla. What happens to used batteries afterwards is still an issue if its not the same lithium that can be used in Tesla again.
@@ruslan1394 what happens when you want to sell your old battery operated car? whos gonna buy it?
@@PazLeBon used teslas not particularly well holding re-sale price. I would even say loose value exponentially fast. It is probably has to do with simple physics of baterries. If capacity is lost by 30% you are locked withing one city. If fast charging disabled you will only be reasonable using over night charges. In cold climates (like I have today feels like -40C) leave Tesla outside for 2 weeks. Gasoline cars never claimed to be enviromentally good but so is Tesla claim is false. Recycling of composites, and baterries always the worst.
Lead batteries are 90-95% recyclable. In fact simplicity even makes it cheaper to make new battery from the old one. Whereas Tesla supliers will be digging cheap lithium from Brazilian soil producing more damage than all carbs that come from gas cars.
@@ruslan1394 yeah sort of my point really, and 99% of all car sales are actually second hand. So what people gonna do? catch buses? :)
It's probably been said often that some of the smartest, more successful people are some of the schrudest and most difficult to deal with. To lead people push folks to their limit with no care for making friends. Steve jobs also excelled at this.
To bad Musk is none of those!
There’s no room in business for feelings and especially no room for someone who whines about being “tired”. Money never sleeps so why should I. I live by that motto and I retired at age 31. Society is to lazy. They complain and need sleep or get feelings hurt. Get out of here.
You can't compare Elon Musk with Steve Jobs. While Steve Jobs was excellent to push other to accomplish things he could never do by himself, Elon just expects everyone to work as hard as he is doing. Which is insane. (The end result ist the same).
Btw, Elon Musk is an Engineer in the first place who also happens to be the CEO.
@@Steppenkater the problem is Musk doesn't work hard yet takes all the credit. Musk isn't an engineer by education or trade. He is a con man who has gotten people drinking the kool aid.
@@kevoskryptoklik98 "too".
Was hoping for insight regarding the new cell lines that are operating in Fremont. GET ON IT!! 😬
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If you dream too much you better wake up
Pretty good, but Tesla is not trying to eliminate Lithium. They are trying to eliminate cobalt.
I caught that too.
And nickel, which they can't get enough of.
@@thatteslacat6334 Reduce, but yes. The LFP has none. The Nickel Manganese has less. They are still planning a high nickel, and they are trying to line up some supply. They had talked to Indonesia.
Very well done video! Listened at 1.5 w/no problems. Video useful score (VUS 1-10) = 9.8
His bank balance isn’t that much bigger since his net worth is mostly his stock assets which aren’t liquid
He doesn't seem to care too much about it.
This is a perfect example of someone who doesn't understand what's going on.
@@slydawwg are you talking about me or the video creator?
as long as the sheep continue to believe he is poor, thanks for confirming he only has shares, which aren´t money
@@xpengfangirl7942 he’s not poor lmao, he sold one billion of his shares a few years ago but that’s because he sold his stock. Stock ≠ bank balance
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I'm sorry but this is just unwatchable! The video may be fine but the audio is excruciating. Please learn to talk without dropping your voice all the time. Half of your words are unintelligible.
Awesome, YOU'RE NOT NEEDED ANYMORE..
Thank you for this outstanding video!! Keep the quality content coming 👍🏽
Panasonic makes the batteries. Tesla just glues them together.
ehh... sorta. If you're talking about Tesla's older batteries, then that is partially true, however it is still owned by Tesla. Tesla's new 4680 battery is being completely produced by them however, as seen in the 'making batteries' video.
The 4680 battery has a ways to go before production and vehicle utilization. Probably no existing model will use them as of massive engineering interruption.
@@wphubert stfu you fucking nerd
@@JR-ub2wt :(
@@wphubert there will be no engineering interruption as tesla is making a new production line in some forgotten place on earth... Berlin. So starts there and it will slowly spread out. Cars will just adopt different battery packs....
Why was the first clip Drag times credited for MKBHD's video?
There is a great mistake. Elon Musk isnt trying to eliminate Lithium. Only cobalt. You cant eliminate Lithium from a lithium-ion-cell ....
Perhaps what was meant was a battery that’s free of both lithium and cobalt rather than a lithium free, lithium battery. I believe there are various other developments in the pipeline that may or may not come to fruition, one that comes to mind is sodium iron.
There's work on replacing lithium with sodium or fluoride. The hope is to replace lithium with a more plentiful element with a lower environmental impact. Also, improving energy to mass and energy to volume ratios could improve drone technology and enable electric airplanes.
There were a couple of misleading/unresearched things in this video, but you hit on one of them. They are going Cobalt-free, but Lithium is not inherently unethical and they're not looking to reduce lithium supply. They're actually looking to increase availability of supply by opening new Lithium reserves that aren't dependent on a brine method of extraction.
@@alexl266
Yes your quite right on that, in the U.K. a company is actively exploring lithium reserves in Cornwall, which I’m led to believe will hopefully supply all the U.K. battery needs.
@@MatthewStinar I am not saying it is not possible, but Tesla is to the best of my knowledge not researching it, as lithium potential is far from reached. Lithium-sulfur or Lithium-air batteries could more than tenfold the capacity. On top, lithium is not rare, it is hard to mine. The current known, and mineable reserves would last for over 1000 years, and most the lithium on earth is in the ocean (around 230 billion tones) which would last almost indefinitely as we only use around 80.000 tones a year. As mining technologies improve, lithium will be easier accessible, cheaper and environmentally friendlier.
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Refreshing to hear good English. Well done!
Just watched to video to see the Rexroth movers in action. Pretty neat!
This video shows some out of date understanding from the start.
The issue with electric cars, and Tesla in particular, isn't the electric storage amount. Tesla's can do almost 500 miles on one charge now.
The issue is charging time.
It's true that the vehicles have good range, but they still lack in important areas. Specific energy (energy per kg) of the batteries still pales in comparison to that of gasoline, so the batteries in Tesla vehicles are extremely large, heavy, and expensive.
Li-ion batteries are only improving in specific energy by a few percent per year, but are more than an order of magnitude lower in specific energy than gasoline. If you calculate how far an electric car can go when driving uphill or towing something, range plummets (more than gasoline, because ICE vehicles are more efficient under a heavy load).
Making better batteries is a huge barrier to making electric cars globally affordable and sustainable, and arguably the primary one. Charging infrastructure will follow suit, as better batteries will make charging infrastructure more affordable when fewer stations are needed.
The video's understanding was perfectly fine. You're the one who's misunderstanding here, bud.
Charge rate is not good, yes, but range is *absolutely* still the main problem with electric vehicles. Not necessarily because EVs are incapable of getting good range, but because the extra cost from the additional batteries makes them uncompetitive against ICE vehicles. In order to make any meaningful impact in the current vehicle market, battery costs are going to need to go down. Charge time is definitely second in priority to range, because at the end of the day you can always just use a supercharger and pump obscene amounts of electricity into your battery pack for a fill-up in just 20 minutes.
@@randxalthor What difference does it make to the driver how heavy the batteries are? They are set low and distributed so it helps stability and they contain more range than 99.9% of drivers will ever need on a given day.
And despite their weight, they still out accelerate muscle cars.
@@mindle9155 You just seemed to defeat your own point bud.
If you can fill up in 20 mins then your point about range is mute. Sure, even taking a cup of joe while you charge up might be annoying but I'm guessing that if you just drove 400 miles then it's probably a good thing: safer for both you and other drivers.
I also foresee drivers going on autopilot and a charge vehicle coming up behind you, connecting and driving along with you while it recharges you for 20 minutes.
So range is not an issue at all. Especially when 99.9% of journeys will never even have to face that issue.
So your only argument is price.
If Musk manages to make a $35k Tesla then that won't be an issue either. And also now that Toyota and most other car manufacturers are going electric, the competition will drive even more innovation. Within 20 years the most common electric car on the road will be a sub $20k car.
You are like the people who raised very reasonable points about how problematic it was to own a first generation combustion engine car compared to a horse and buggy.
@@NR-rv8rz no, you entirely missed my point. the problem with range is that if you want better range you have to pay significantly more for it, which is an issue when you consider that there are not a lot of chargers out there atm. You need enough range to make it to the next charger, and unless you're traveling along electric roads, there is a very real possibility that if you don't fork over the cash for extra range, then you just won't be able to make it to your destination.
I love this genius. Only sad I can’t afford a Tesla. God blessed Elon and he is here sharing his blessings
engineer : made machine that produce stuff efficiently
elon musk : make machine that produce machine.
Basically the same stuff.
Hi Tech Vision. What happened to the Robin Hood video? Why did you private it? Did someone make you do it and will you re-upload it again after some time?
Yes I’m happy for Musk .
Correct your Battery sizes information.
21700. 21 is the width 700 is the length in ( mm ) 10340 AAA, 14450 AA, 16350, 18350 18650, 20700 21700 26650
21700 is 21 x 70?
4680 is 46 x 80, they just dropped the last zero.
I'm still waiting for him to release his E Scooter range :)
cant wait to ride from new york to washngton dc on my tesla e scooter😈😈😈
Didnt he say tht he will not produce any 2 wheelers as they are more prone to accidents
Please tell me it has a wheelie button and can wheelie itself , cuz my lazy ass can't
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Now all they have got to do is recycle them 10 X quicker.
That is exactly their disadvantage. They build with a lot of very small cells. Since each one has to be wired several times, once for balancing and once for use, the risk of error increases with each cell. Above all, it is bad that they use round cells, because the electrode is heated when connecting them. Risk of failure. Above all, the industry standard beyond Tesla is to put only twelve, sometimes 18 cells in a module. Thus, all monitoring components located in the module and centrally are also industry standard and correspondingly reliable and inexpensive. Above all, it is a question of effort: No matter how automated it is - for a Model S battery, 8256 cells have to be processed in many steps. That costs. For a Mercedes EQS battery, it's 12 modules of 18 cells, or only 216 cells.
6:34 I want that Coffee so bad where can I buy it? i'd love to pay the price. Is it maybe mixed with caffeine powder? actually a great idea lol.
May be mixed with weed powder😅
You can buy caffeine anhydrous separately. I use it in the morning where mind remains already at full pace then which caffeine, it achieves excellence
@@AdityaEnergySolutions y'all are some fiends 😂
Just add a modafinil or two.....
Look for „Robusta“ beans instead of the regular „Arabica“ beans. Much much higher caffeine ratio.
Thanks for making such a knowledgeable video
Where am I gonna use all the stuff I learn at school?
- you'll only use it if you have big dream
It seems simple, but it contains a lot of technical elements. 👍Be creative and ideas will surely succeed.
Elo musk is Tony Stark
The way you edit and present the content is mind blowing
1:39 what if you were the guy that made them put on the cart “no riding”
:-)
I have been that person >.< Also, never 100% wire guide forklift systems!!!! A piece of banding on the floor messed with the wire guide on my lift once, ( worked in a massive warehouse, to the point we had dedicated highways inside for fast lift travel ) sent me and a 13000 lbs forklift through a brick wall at 35 mph. The forklift was fine, I broke 2 ribs.
On the battery tech, you have left key some information out...Panasonic is not the only supplier, their biggest battery supplier now is CATL, China, and LG Chem, Korea.
I love it. Elon made Panasonic come over here and help Him make batteries.
hahahahahahah
Fantastic video. Thanks.
How Panasonic build batteries so fast
Nice video, one thing to point out though is you said Lithium is rare and has ethic issues, I think you are thinking of Cobalt. Lithium is actually pretty common in soil (another reason why tesla chose Nevada for gigafactory), and cobalt is a rare metal that is controversial because there are human rights violations common in the cobalt supply chain. (Child labor)
On battery day they mentioned they would be extracting lithium from soil I'm Nevada, and removing cobalt entirely in the future 4680 cells.
So really the Panasonic part of the equation is the impressive part.
4680
Every video is awesome. And i am the regular watcher... Big fan of your every content. Its really helpful as a engineering student.
But i request to you... there have many friend, they are not Professional English speaking people as like as me. So if you keep little bit slow and more clear of your content it must be helpful.
Thank you... Big fan.
If he does not pursue the goal, then who else will?
In 2021? A lot of people, because the virtues of EVs and the demand for them are now clear. But that's only because he pursued it in 2010...
Who cares?
@@audigex The goal is not to make EVs it is to accelerate the transition to sustainable energy. The "others" are working extremely slow you can not classify anything they are doing with the term "accelerating"
@@joekr9424 Plus, big oil and big auto have been colluding on destroying any EV competition through media manipulation or bribing lawmakers to go tough on EV automakers
This is how they remained on using ICE for a long time
@@albaraqahtani Yes also, ICE is still more economical because the ICE makers refused to put money into EV tech. Elon forced their hand and will put them out of business for this stupid and bad behavior.
Nice narration..!! Amazing guy..!!
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would Tesla make good batteries for phones?
Not necessarily because most batteries can't be scaled like that (not saying they couldn't do the research for phone batteries, but it's not worth the time and resources for them to)
Order a tesla phone power brick and you'll see! It's on the tesla site :)
@@9sunstar9 perhaps? but it's cool
@@DM-jb8fs lol😂😂
Excellent writing and presentation. Thumbs up.
I wants to know how they disposed the old damage ones ...
they are recycled; RUclips for the video and background info
Panasonic was always the "stepping stone". Tesla wants to own it all. From top to bottom.
Tesla started out with their own battery technology. I guess they put their heads together with Panasonic.
Outstanding video. High level tech jargon made simple. Thanks
It's either Tesla or Amazon. Is there any other tech out there?
Google, Apple, samsung? Like what exactly was the question?
@@whyitmatters6906 Sorry, but there has been little to no innovation with Apple in the last 6-7 years.
Why, 18650,battery is essential, and why not D sizes batter?
Volkswagen: *frantically taking notes*
This is pretty amusing. The company I work for is a certified Powerwall installer and we haven't been able to get new batteries from them for more than 6 months (and we aren't alone in that). And availability for 2021 is looking marginal - we'll get some, but availability will continue to be the limiting constraint on how many we can sell to customers.
COVID has changed so much for most technology-companies. I'm 'just' a simple electrician that gets to deal with quite a lot of electronics, but even we are facing huge delays in rather standard microprocessor-shipments. So it could very well be it's not only the resources for the batteries that are a problem, but certainly all the silicon required for everything to turn a bunch of lithium-cells into a working battery, whether it is a powerwall or a car-battery.
The coffee is actually recycled battery acid.
Eric is joking! Don’t drink or touch battery acid because it is poisonous ☠️ 😅
I like these type of videos
Thanks for sharing Dude. 👍
Well I ain surprized
The ruthless pursuit of excellence -- nice!
I wonder when Panasonic will realize, hey let's make cars.
I am in the ruthless pursuit of drinking that coffee and still remain vastly unproductive.
Seems like you’re using footage without mentioning sources, like @marques brownlee
U blind?, he mentions them in the upper left corner😂
@@aqeelraja4750 it was blurred at some times
Marques could care less.
How would you eliminate lithium from the production process? What else would you make the batteries out of? I’ve only heard talk of eliminating cobalt.
Just imagine that factory fought in fire
Your music is overwhelming!
no one is forced to work for elon, so no, he's not pushing too hard
I was hoping this video would actually show how the batteries are made, rather than just the overall business strategy
Same. 😶
"one point six billion"
Text: "$1.600,000,000"
Editor that realized that mistake just now: "agh!"
(at 4:07)
What mistake?
@@kinositajona lol 🤣🤣
@@yumit5045 1.6 Billion is 1,600,000,000 not 1.600,000,000
Thanks for this video. I am really interested in where the technology is going and how it is progressing.
I have to invest in $tsla stock now
Never risk what you cannot honestly afford to lose and you'll do just fine.
Man your pronounce is so good, fast talker but so clear
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Every ambitious, educated and motivated person wishes they could work for him.
Nah. I want him to run the company I invest in, but he sounds like the last person who would care about you at all as a person.
Every engineering students dream is to work for him
@@seankerr1187 see...the problem is that when you use hyperbole like that it doesn't so much emphasize your point as it does show demagoguey in action.
That's underwhelming a lot compared to other manufactures who do it in even less time and make their cars even more reliable.
@@misteratoz uhm had you majored in some form of engineering, electrical,meche, comp, you would understand the enthusiasm within the community to work for him. Sorry we can't all get in
0:06 that's not dragtime's video, it's actually MKBHD's video.
Stocks are good but crypto is more profitable
Bitcoin is the future investing in it now is the wisest thing to do now especially with the current rise
Despite all the economic crisis this is the right time to start up an investment
I wanted to trade crypto but got confused by the fluctuations in price
@@alexthomas7075 That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like Mrs Evelyn Williams
I heard that her strategies are really good
'Battery tech has lagged behind'. Nonsense. Battery price and energy density follow reliable curves just like almost any other technology. Also when you suggest Tesla would want to get rid of Panasonic, you are mistaken. Tesla wants all the batteries it can get its hands on, and will keep Panasonic as long as they can, even when they have multiple inhouse battery cell lines.
Hello everyone! :D I hope you stay safe and have a nice day, God bless you!
Misleading. Musk has been very clear their own battery production complements their suppliers. They will literally "buy everything you can make" as he said in the last earnings call.
Crappiest build quality ever. Once the hype is over and the second and third generations arrive these vehicles will be worthless.
lol. People said the same thing about the model S over 8 years ago.
you realize everything is getting electric now right? in 100 years we wont have any fuel anyways so no diesel cars for us anymore
Who cares if the doors don't align up as long as it can blow away a BMW
0:38 did they blur the mkbhd logo in the top?
Yes. Was ready to grab my pitchfork but they have mentioned it in the description.
Thank you for the update .
Which size of battery does Tesla now use in their cars? 18650? 21700?
This video left out critical info on just how serious Tesla is about ramping up battery production. To Tesla, a cheap and plentiful battery supply is absolutely essential to their mission to electrify the World's automotive industry.
Tesla's Battery Day laid out their ambitious goal of 2 terawatts/year production by 2030. This is a whole order of magnitude more than what the world is currently producing. Tesla has pledged to buy EVERY extra battery their partners can produce but they know even that wil not be enough---thus they will build their own battery production lines to feed their factories. This the only way to assure success in their ambitious goal.
Amazing just how this technology came about and is still evolving. If they can solve the range issue of 255 miles and double that to 450 on a single charger good bye combustion engines.
lol. how do you solve the charging issue? these companies won't make switchable packs. how would they make money?
I think I'm fine with how Elon pushes his business partners harshly. imagine making a historical giant of a business produce new, better and more efficient batteries just because you told them off. Because of that push, Panasonic was able to develop better batteries instead of being complacent with the old batteries they made. Had not Elon push his partners to their limits/best form yet, we would not have cars with better battery capacity today.
ps. "excellence requires discomfort" - T.D. Jakes
15 million sq ft? Hm. Maybe the levels inside it? I just looked it up on maps, outlined it and got a bit less than 2 million sq ft. Awaiting explanation.
Your math is almost correct, but, you need to sum every single floor of the building to have the exact amount of sq ft!
Ex:. If you have a 3 floor building, each one of those with 100sqft, than, your entire building will be 300sqft, but if you look in the google maps, you will find that the area that your building occupy is only 100sqft!
Ps. Sorry for my Bad English!!
@@henriquefontaine5572 Yeah, my "maybe the levels inside?" idea is what you explained, we both theorize the same thing. Factories mostly not leveled and wht you an dI theorize here requires 7 levels, at least. This still highly unlikely.
Somebody with another explanation?