This concludes Season 4 of my "Historical Turkic and Steppe states" series and with it the stage of Early Medieval Steppe entities. Of course, there are more groups, tribes and states to cover in that time period. But I want to continue along the timeline and finally enter the most interesting era in all of Turkic and Mongolic history: the High Middle Ages. We are going to do just that with the next documentary which will handle the Kipchak-Cuman people who are also mentioned here. Until then, I'm off to finally finishing my second book about the Göktürk Empire...
Putting all those manly men on my screen made me lose focus in a few spots, and now I'll have to rewatch the entire series on the Turks and Steppes. It's very well done, so thank you.
Your information about the split of the Bulgars was not complete. You mentioned the Bulgars of Asparuh(Danubean Bulgars), the Bulgars of Batbayan(Staying in Fanagoria and becoming vassals of the Khazars), and the Bulgars of Kotrag(The Volga Bulgars). But there were also the tribes that went with Khan Altzek to Panonia and then to the Italian/Apennine peninsula, and the Bulgars of Kuber, who settled in the Greek/Eastern Roman region of Macedonia around Thessaloniki... Still it is nice to see someone dig into the history of people and preserving their history. Well done!
I thank you for your serious and constructive criticism! Indeed a point I missed. It is very well welcomed, and I urge to better myself next time. But to be frank, after so many strange comments with accusations and literally made-up stories from seemingly Bulgarian viewers themselves, I'd rather not return to Bulgar/Bulgarian history again. I made the stories because I found it to be interesting, but the people made me leave that topic.
@@Kaloian_Ivanov You are Slavic, Volga Bulgars are not. The Danube Bulgars became Slavic and became the modern "Bulgarians". The Volga Bulgars have retained their original language. Their descendants are the Chuvashs (Oghur language), and the Kazan Tatars (Kypchak language) Volga Bulgar and Turkish comparison Volga Bulgar: Ätil suvi aka turur, Kaya tübi kaka turur, Balik tälim baka turur, Kölün taki küšerür Turkish: İdil suyu aka durur, Kaya dibi(ni) kaka [ite] durur, Çok Balık (kur)bağa durur, Gölü bile taşırır.
The language modern Bulgarian speeck is Slavonic, but that doesn't mean that they are not related to Volga Bulgars I'm Tatar, greetings to my Bulgarian brothers
@@theheroickhan I am not Slavic,I may speak a Slavic language,but I am Bulgarian none the less. If a Kazak speaks only Russian does this make him Russian/Slavic? I dont think so. We took different language and religion,because of our imperial ambitions in the late 9th century,but this does not change our origin and identity. BTW I study turkology.
@@theheroickhan neither we are Slavic nor the Volga Bulgars are Turkic. Slavic and Turkic will occur way later as ethnic or cultural term describing ethnic or cultural communities that were formed centuries later. It has been most likely a federation of so called japhetic tribes.
@@misterjonny8302 Bugarians from Danube bulgaria are free indioendant people..... The ones in Russia are Moscovity cocksuckersv......You are not Bulgarians. Go to to hell with Moscovity your masters..Muslim Slaves
It's thanks to Volga Bulgaria that the Bulgars out of the various Oghur Turkic entities of Eurasia left the greatest legacy. Neither Huns nor Avars & Khazars left the marks and memory the Bulgars left
@@BizmyurtThey left attested texts in the Bulgar language which are almost non-existent in the case of other Oghur Turkic groups, the Volga Tatar language also has massive Bulgar elements, as for modern Bulgaria sure it's a Slavic country which only adopted the Bulgar ethnonym of the Dulo overlords
Fun Fact: Bulgar language shares many cognates with Mongolian language due to both being Altaic languages. Some of those words that i remember are chicken, rabbit and to be.
Found Old Great Bulgaria!? How do you establish something new and it's at the same time Old and Great? This video is not based on facts but on hypotheses. Recent DNA findings suggest otherwise. Bulgarians are not connected to Turkic tribes!
This ruling elite dominated a large state. While precise boundaries are unclear, Volga Bulgaria included substantial Finnic and Ugrian areas north of the Volga, a large part of modern Bashkiria to the east, much of the Volga region south of the Bulgar territory itself, and the lands of the Finns and east Slavs to the west perhaps as far as the Oka River. Volga Bulgaria was a multhiethnic state,with large numbers of Turkic Bulgars and Bashkirs, a variety of Finnic and Ugrian peoples, and many east Slavs.
Does genetic research matter to people like you? Show me one document or information from an ancient author, in which the old Bulgarians are defined as a Turkic or other East Asian people!
Thanks, that's indeed "just" me working on the videos. But these AI technologies certainly allow for more dynamic storytelling and they are certainly helpful with the animations.
But now this White Race peoples (Bvlgari/ Belgari/ Byalgari/ Belasgi/ Belargi/ Albanians, translated on Latin) already is mixture with Turki (Yellow Race/ Mongolians) and with Pale Race peoples (Russians)
@@KhansDen Волжките българи отдавна ги няма. Има само самозванци които крадат историята им. Те не са били тюрки. Само лъжи, измами и фалшификации, не само в това видео а навсякъде. Настъпи ерата на лъжата.
@@ioanandreev4253 потому что дунайские болгары ни генетически, ни лингвистически не связаны с оригинальными булгарами. На булгарском говорят лишь чуваши, хотя генетически они тоже не булгары
Българите са били полуномадскo племе. Тоест мърдаха на сам на там със музите конете и овцете. Юртата беше типично за тия времена. Великият Болгар си е било крепостен град но на периферията живееха овчари и т н т.
Cheers to all Bulgarians around the world. Another theory is that in late 1223, the Bulgars defeated the Mongols. An army led by the Bulgar iltäbär (king) Ghabdulla Chelbir, including the armies of Mordvin princes Puresh and Purgaz, ambushed and defeated Subutais's vanguard forces in 1223 at the Battle of Samara Bend. The Khwarizmi historian al-Nasawi says only 4,000 survived. The captured Mongol troops were later sent back to Genghis, in exchange for live stock. This was unusual for the period, as captives were usually executed or sold into slavery. Al-Nasawi says that one Mongol captive was exchanged for one ram. Al-Althir's account also proves that they were ambushed in the Volga region. After several sharp skirmishes with the Bulgars, the tiring Mongols moved back down to the Volga. Meanwhile, the Russians continuously attacked the Bulgar State to try to attain supremacy of this wealthy region. Side note It would be amazing if you can make a video about the other brothers of Asparuh - Alcek and Kuber.
You lost me from the very beginning. The ancient Bulgarians war not turkic speaking people. There is not a single evidence about that. They have been influenced by Western Turkich Khaganat but they have not been a turkic tribe for sure. According to the largest genetic survey nowadays Danube Bulgarians are not far genetically from their ancestors which are close genetically to scitians and sarmatians.
Not only the Bulgarians are not ''Turkic'', further more, the 1st sultan of the Ottoman Empire had a surname Bolgar ; there is another quote too :'' We are not Turks, we are Bulgarians'' ! The thing is the aggressive modern propaganda from Turkey and some ex-Soviet republics ,and not only , that does not steps on facts but is fueled by much emotions ,sometimes money and indoctrination.
@tokmakchibashi yep, that's what they were turned into after the acceptance of Islam by Baghdad Khalifat and assimilation of turkic tribes around. But if you read Ahmed Ibn Fadlan who led the mission of their islamisation you will be very surprised by the description of Bulgarians and the contrast with the description of oguz tribes which he describes as wild and dirty people wearing uncrafter animal skin. ;)
33:57 The descendants of the Volga Bulgars are the Chuvashes. The Tatars are descendants of Kypchaks which destroyed the so-called "Volga Bulgaria". The actual name of the so-called "Volga Bulgaria" was Nurkhat Bulhar (Silver Bulgaria).
I am speechless!! This man here refuted the Bulgarian origin, which scientists have been looking for... for a century! It is so unique that we already know about the existence of black and white Bulgarians at that time, and scientists still wonder what the old Bulgarians were like.... Well, we already know, some were white-masters, the others black-slaves. We also determined with certainty that both Christianity and Islam believed in Tangra ....this theory, which has not yet been confirmed 100% by anyone! Why does this person is not working for some scientific university, but is a blogger ???😂😂😂😂
Wonderful documentary. All your studies, efforts are highly appreciated, valuable facts. Most of turkic, ugric: bulgar, magyar, avar, khazar, subar, sabir, saka, szekler tribes names are highly related and connected to each other as we can see easily in turkic history which is a continuation of older hunnic history. Of course, all these turkic groups have intermixed with regional other ethnicities and differed partly in genetics, similar to oghuz turkic groups have intermixed with different other ethnicities in other different regions. But in conclusion, all turkic related ethnic groups have historical and linguistic connections.
And here's the 5818th comment that does not understand that Bulgarians =/= Bulgars and that Turkish is not the same as Turk-ic. They never learn and don't even bother to. Also, the lack of basic English skills is astounding here.
@@KhansDen listen my friend you know that turkic is ethnonim, which is not related to DNA but language and culture. Old bulgarian tribes may had some turkic words, and some cultural similarities, but in general we`re completely different people. By your logic after the 8th century - Serbians, Romanians, Russians, Ukraininans and all the poples who used to use Old church Bulgarian (now known as slavonik) are from bulgarian origin. Just don`t use this terminology for bulgars please...
The Volga Bulgarians were not Turks until 1223, when they entered into battle with the golden horde of the Mongol-Tatars, in the following years they mixed, therefore now the inhabitants of Kazan have Mongoloid features!Bulgarians have nothing to do with Turks, but with Iranians, Ossetians, even Alans and Scythians
@@АлександърГрозданов-д3м he is called Asparah Han and Iranian don’t use this title “Han” . Am l right ? By the way It seems to me that the Bulgarians deny their origins. They definitely want to impose your origins on the Slavs or Thracians. At least that's what your historians say. It's natural that you mixed with the Slavs and Thracians, but this doesn't change the fact that your origins come from another ethnic structure.
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage episode about Volga bulgar Turkik tribe's movements , settlements,and theirs historical print fingers ... thank you (Khan Den) channel for sharing .....
I study the warrior cultures from this area and the Great Perm. My great grandfather's mother migrated to the US from Bulgaria via Spain. DNA testing from his family connected him with Udmurt/Bessermyane Finno-Ugric tribes. They settled in Finnish community in Michigan.
@@KhansDen I believe I am getting a good picture. Thanks in part to your great research! Ural-Altai roots are ancient. Finn/Tatar history reaches from Altai-Sayan to Northern Michigan in Finnish/Sami American community. I have been blessed with the calling of the family historian.
@@KhansDen I also want you to know that you are exactly right as far as my own personal family research goes with the Bulgars. Turkic Finno-Ugric folks. I know that you struck a chord with some people but that's okay. Strong people across the board 😊 I get a clearer picture of my family with each new video from Khan's Den.
Firstly, Bulgarians are not nomads - nomads do not create states and do not build fortresses and cities! IBn Fadlan, the envoy of the Arab caliph, in his mission to Volga Bulgaria describes the Bulgarians very accurately!He shows a clear difference between Buryats, Kabardians and Bulgarians, who had white faces, not Mongoloids!
Пич, не се излагай като си неграмотен. Най-големите империи в историята са на евразийски номади. Ходи да гледаш Спароток и не се бъркай в неща, за които трябва поне едно десетилетие подготовка.
When will you talk about the Crimean Khanate and the succesor states of the Golden Horde. I saw no one speak about tatar kazkah-nogai relation in that time period. Only Ottoman-tatar and other neighbouring states.
Actually there are enough resources about them to the time of the russian occupation. After all, their heritage is a mix of proto Bulgarian, khazar, Mongol, and ottoman. Plus all bevor them.
According to Prof. Raymond Detrez, who is a specialist in Bulgarian history and language, such views are based on anti-Turkish sentiments and in serious scholarly circles it is well known that the Bulgar language was a Turkic one: Developing cultural identity in the Balkans: convergence vs divergence, Raymond Detrez, Pieter Plas, Peter Lang, 2005, p. 29
can I make a statement ? in Turkish ( Turkic ) Kara means North ,Kızıl means South, Ak means West ,Yeşil means East , Sarı means Centre ( central ) four directions of the compass. Saol Thank you for the upload.
Ibn Fadlan vividly describes the peoples living there, the proto-Bulgarians, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Oghuz, Pechenegs, Khorezm people, their material culture, their social order, way of life, way of life, traditions, customs and rites
@@KhaganTheGreatВолжките българи никога не с приемали турската култура,нито пък са говорили турски език. Мюсюлманството го приемат от Арабският халифат. Голяма част от така наречената турска култура е наследена от местните новозавладени народи в Мала Азия и Балканите. Другото е пропаганда. Спрете да четете Уикипедия и потърсете малко реални документи .
Some cardinals are mentioned in the Danube Bulghar List of Princes, i.e. wać 'three, tot 'four, alti 'six', citi seven', wutur 'thirty'. Ordinals are formed by (+(D)m), e.g. wäćim 'third', tot-im 'fourth, alti-m 'sixth', citi-m 'seventh', segt-im 'eighth, wtir-im 'thirtieth'; cf. East Old Turkic (+()ně) in uč-inč, tort-inċ, alti-nč, yeti-nč, and Volga Bulghar väčim 'third', tüwätim 'fourth', altis 'sixth', čiyetis 'seventh'. Johanson, L. and Csató, É.Á. (2022) The Turkic languages. London: Routledge.
Много невярни неща, да не кажа глупости се казаха. Българите не сме тюрки, не сме били танграисти, нямали сме ханове, а князе. Българите не сме номади. На всякъде сме строили каменни градове. На всякъде където сме минали има град с името Белград.
@@zahariykiritsov3998 и не само това,много Арменски и Арабски извори описват българите ,особено Ибн Фадлан,пратеник на аАрабския Халиф с мисия ,Волжките българи да приемат исляма и той описва детайлно стопанската култура,нравите ,обичаите и външния вид на племената,които среща по пътя си,ясно разграничава Българите като европеиди,докато Башкири,Калинки,Чуваши и тн,ги описва а като хора с малко брада,Монголоидни черти (силно изявени)-разлика в обичаите и тн,ама няма кой да чете,главен застъпник на тюркската теория е Васил Гюзелев,на когото дават и учебници да пише по история,това е глупост сътворена от поредното Министерство на Образованието на България!
Thanks for these videos. Would you consider using less AI? As they can make imperfect and misleading pictures. Really like this one becaue AI pics arent as prominent
Some Pechengs and Cumans migrated to Bulgaria and mixed with the local population. This is used as prove that the Bulgars south of the Danube were open to integrating with the people who occupied the territories where Bulgars did previously. The whole region was much more integrated than what is believed. The 12th century Second Bulgarian Empire was result of the union between Bulgarians, Vlachs and Cumans.
❤❤❤GREAT BEST NATION and Glorious of God ❤ When the Bulgarians created states, an Empire with a conglomerate of tribes nation’s , the other tribes and peoples ate bananas and also the cities of the Bulgarians Pliska Billiards many others were made of stone when other tribes lived in straw huts Even now the old capital of the Bulgarians Pliska is the most the great city in ancient times, bigger and more powerful than Constantinople, even Constantinople was saved from the invasion of the Arabs, who were close to the Bulgarians at that time in terms of mentality, but were driven out of Europe thanks to the Bulgarian King Tervel, GOD SAVE BULGARIA...
Almus' name is extremely interesting, because Arpad's father bears the same name, who lived just one generation earlier and was prince of the Hungarians. His name in Hungarian means "sleepy" or "from a dream", which is linked to the fact that he was conceived during her mother's sleep by the mythical bird Turul.
Saya menyukai sejarah dan yang paling saya kagumi adalah kebangkitan dua suku yang paling spektakuler di Asia dan Eropa menjadi sebuah bangsa penakluk yang luar biasa yaitu Mongol dan Turki
I wonder why most people accept so easy the theory that the Dunabe Bulgarians mixed so much with thracians and slavs and ottomans etc. There are many examples for people/tribes living together for centuries with minimal mix if at all. Like, with the gypsies. Living together for centuries but they have not changed and still living in their tribes.
I don't know the origin of the Bulgars. I know the origin of Bulgaria. Thracian tribes were already living in modern day Bulgaria. Slavs migrated to that same region. Mixed with Thracians and formed early. nation. Bulgars moved to that same territory. Then conquering early Bulgaria. Soon adopting the Slav language and mixing with Slavs, Thracians. The Bulgars who did not convert to the Slav Thracian mix were killed by the Bulgar, Slav, Thracian mix. The biggest percentage is Slav, Thracian, Bulgar.
Modern research would situate the Magyars much more north at 3:14 - they apparently were always at the junction between forest and steppe, and the Kama-Volga region is precisely the place where most archaeological remains point to before their migration to Etelköz. And there was no Levedia phase for the Hungarians still according to the most recent research (3:50).
Regarding the continuity of the Bulgar identity the switch from Volga Bulgar to Volga Tatar can be compared to the Chagatai Turkic identity evolving into Uzbek, here's further proof involving both parties a Timurid epigraph originally recorded in Chagatai Turkic about Timur's campaign against the Golden Horde "Summer seven hundred and ninety-three, in the middle spring month of the year of the sheep [April 6, 1391], Sultan of Turan Timur-Bey moved with three hundred thousand troops for Islam towards the Bulgar Khan Tokhtamysh Khan. Reaching the area, he built this mound to be a memorial. God willing, the Lord would execute justice! The Lord will have mercy on the people of the country! Yes, they will remember us with prayer!”
Tokhtamysh was a descendant of Genghis Khan which means he was of the Mongols who invaded and conquered Bulgaria. Therefore the title "Bulgar Khan" is not an ethnic definition of Tokhtamysh. He is a fake Bulgar, as well as Volga Tatars, who are descendants of the Kipchaks who invaded Bulgaria as part of the Mongol armies. The descendants of the Volga Bulgars are the Chuvashes.
@@Qazaq_Qiyat_1465 That doesn't make Genghis Khan and Tokhtamysh ethnic Bulgars anyway. The Bulgar (Bolgar) identity of Tokhtamysh and the Volga Tatars is not linked to ethnic Bulgars, but the Golden Horde city of Bolgar and Muslim tradition that emerged there.
No. Watch and listen again. I'll make it simpler for you to understand: The region of old Volga Bulgaria TODAY is called Tatarstan. It is called Tatarstan because TATAR people from East Asia settled here AFTER the Volga Bulgar state collapsed. The people who live in Tatarstan TODAY however do have Volga Bulgar lineage. Because the Volga Bulgars did not simply vanish, they were assimilated. And if you have a problem with TATARSTAN as a name, go complain to the RUSSIANS who took that name which was extensively used among scholars and historians since the Middle Ages onwards. It's not my invention. Certain people here seriously lack English listening comprehension.
@@KhansDen correction: Kuman (Kipchak) people settled in Volga Bulgaria. Tatar is not an ethnicity - it is a status. The modern population of republic Tatarstan is a mixture of Ugro-Finians, proto-Bulgarians, and Kumans.
The turkic markers in the genetics markers of the bulgarian DNA is under 3%. The graves are oriented on the axs North South, but in the world of the turks the body is oriented East West. There are also a lot of similirities between bulgarian and iranian tribes, armenian tribes, alani and sarmations, which lead to the conclusion that the origin is the region of Caucasus, Crimea and region above the peninsila.
@@kekule71 The Bulgar DNA can be traced from Crimea and Caucasus to Bavaria, Italy and the Balkans. When the Bulgars arrive on the Balkans, there are only the left overs from Thrace. The Slavic tribes will arrive a couple of years later with the mission to survive, not to rule. Your theory is reject by the DNA results of many graves, who were researched in the past years.
Not so. Early Slav Thracian nation existed prior to the Bulgar conquest. Shortly after, Bulgars adopted Slav language and mixed with Slavs, Thracians. The Bulgars that did not convert to the Slav Thracian mix were killed by the Slav, Thracian, Bulgar mix.
Глупости, глупости!!! Какви славяни, какви 5 лева..... Понятието "славяни" се появява по време на Екатерина Велика.... Това понятие "славяни" е геополитическа амбиция на едни от най-неблагодарните спрямо българите народи, с болни имперски амбиции... На същите тях нашите деди са дали азбука, религия знание за това, как се гради и управлява държава. и пр.
they are stupid as fuck. they cant admit that original bulgarians were turkic because they got conquered by ottoman turks. they dont wanna be something they hate
Again great video. Dulo is the Slavic version of Tuğluk tribes. Tuğluk and Onok are the two rival tribe federations inside Western Gokturk. Tuğluk divided into Khazars, Bulgars, Bashkirs and Pechenegs while Onok became Kipchak Kimek and Oghuz. Tuğluk and Onok represents Ogur (R) and Shaz (Z) Turkic respectively
I don't know. How did Genghis Khan, whose Mongols used to live in tents, build a city that included fortifications, a palace, and up to 100,000 inhabitants? A mystery...
Originally Ghenghis khan state was called Khanlig. Ulus originally meant Share/Division. Initially Mongqol had no ethno-nationalistic meaning and rather was a consolidation of tribes, including mongolic, turko-mongolic, and turkic
Can you list your sources in your videos info going forward? I'd like to check your sources before buying your book. Judging from your comment section it seems like everyone is potentially just jamming their fists up their arses and claiming what comes out is the truth...
The administrative terminology and structure of the First Bulgarian Empire was Turkic , although not everyone admits as much . The ruler was titled the “ khan " or " qan " , the traditional steppe imperial title of the supreme and sacred lineage , which can be attested as early as the fourth century among the Juan - Juan , is preserved in the eighth century Orkhon inscriptions in Mongolia , and was later used by the most successful steppe empire in history , the Mongol Empire of Chinghis Khan .
Ahmed ibn Fadlan ibn al-Abbas ibn Rashid ibn Hammad (in Arabic احمد بن فضلان بن العباس بن راشد بن حماد)[1] was an Arab traveler and writer who lived in the first half of the 10th century. In 921 he was sent
Bulgars ≠ Bulgarians Bulgars = Oghur Turkic Bulgarian = Slavic Volga Bulgar and Turkish comparison Volga Bulgar(according to I love languages): Ätil suvi aka turur, Kaya tübi kaka turur, Balik tälim baka turur, Kölün taki küšerür Turkish: İdil suyu aka durur, Kaya dibi(ni) kaka [ite] durur, Çok Balık (kur)bağa durur, ölü bile taşırır.
@@theheroickhanMadde başında “Etil - Kıpçak diyarında bir ırmağın adı...” yazıyor. Şaz Türkçesi olduğu, Bulgarca olmadığı şıw yerine suw yazmasından belli zaten.
Your first king is Kubrat Khan. This is a Turkish name. Also his successors also bear Turkish names. The Bulgarian Runic alphabet is an exact copy of the Gokturk alphabet. The symbols of the historian Bulgarian clans are also Turkish tribal symbols still used today.
Bolga\Volga is the same thing. The word 'bUlgar' is accentuated and truncated pronunciation. The precise word is 'Bolgarians' mean the arians of Bolg, hence that is how the river got its name - the people of Bolg gave it to it (a river can not name itself). When the Great Bolgaria split and dissolved (after the death of tzar Kubrat\Korbat) some of the bolgarians mixed with turkic people, some mixed with slovonic (slavs) + one big chunk mixed with tracians (todays Bulgaria on the Balkans) and a very small part mixed with the romans\latins (in Italy, the Altzek bolgarians where the town Chelle di Bulgheria is today in Italy). The bolgarian language shaped the southern slavic to old church slavonic (the base of todays Russian\Serbian\Ukranian and so on), where Bolgarian language is the hardest in pronunciation, yet still it is closest to all slavonic languages.
The proto-Bulgars were indeed step-nomads of Turkic origin. But by the early 11th century the Bulgarians were the descendants not only of those proto-Bulgars but mainly of Slavs that had migrated but also of Greeks and Thracians that preceded them and remained in the region. So maybe in an over simplistic way let's say the Bulgarians were a mix of Slavic, Bulgar and Thraco-Greek populations that adopted the ethnonym of the ruling elites (Bulgar) but came to speak the language of the majority population (Slavic).
The name Bulgarian is not only in the narrow framework of nationality, but of statehood, management, culture!!! The Volga River is probably the Bolga!!!
Dans "Le Voyage chez les Bulgares de la Volga", qui est un récit de voyage du Xe siècle du voyageur arabe Aḥmad ibn Faḍlān(écrit en Xe siècle, donc!). Ce dernier faisait partie de l’ambassade abbasside envoyée par le calife al-Muqtadir le 21 juin 921 en direction du roi des Bulgares de la Volga, Almish. C' est une œuvre importante dans la littérature géographique arabe d’un point de vue historique, géographique et ethnographique, Aḥmad ibn Faḍlān a bien différencier entre les bulgares de Volga et les peuples nomades Turks. Déjà les bulgares ne sont pas des nomades, et bien différents des turks, et il à très bien décrit la différence.
By this logic Brits or Germans are not Germanic because they speak different languages and have their own identities. Turk was name of only one Turkic tribe in ancient times.
Учат го в чифутските пропагандни драсканици, които петнат паметта на НАШИТЕ ДЕДИ... Като ги чета тия простотии имам усещането, че някой иска да изкара днешните българи - небългари. Тия всичките "любители на историята" трябва да знаят, че БЪЛГАРИТЕ / наричани в древността от чуждоземците "траки" / са разнесли култура по целият тогавашен свят та чак до Япония и това се знае мнооого добре от тези, които имат достъп до вярната информация... Та личности, като Франсоа Митеран, Акад. Лихачов и др. са го заявявали " Историята на човешката цивилизация започва от Българрия" "Българите са коренното население на тази земя и не сме мърдали от тук поне от времето, от когато датират костите с резките намерени в пещера козарника" цитат Проф. Веселина Вачкова.... И още нещо България е единствената страна, която граничи сама със себеси....
I just want to point out that Apsparuh is not a TUrkic name Asparukh is a Middle Iranian male name,[1] attested in ancient Georgia and early medieval Bulgaria. It is a compound with the two elements: "aspa" (horse) and "rauk" (shine), meaning "he who has shining horses". Having said that the Bulgars were descendants of the Sarmati who were a Persian tribe close to the Scythians who were also Persian-Iranian. Just because an intermix happened with Turkic tribes does not mean that the BUlgars were of Turkic origin... Please explore more before posting Russian propaganda...Kubrat is also Persian name....
👍! Actually Mongols were also Turkic tribes such as Naiman, Kerey, Merket, etc. belong to Current Khazakh people. Current Mongols have no any relation to Chingizkhan’s Mongol tribes. They got the name of Mongol by Russians in 20 century with political purpose.
Probably, or a mix of Turkic descent of some sort. You’ll find the only difference between todays Bulgarians and modern day Turks is religion, the culture is the same and continues even in Bulgaria, the turkic culture is all over the Balkans.
@Ha15679 that is NOT true. Bulgarian ppl are much different than Turkish people. Kulture is totally different, more open minded ,cultured , soft , not demonic Turkish.
Turkic and Jewish genealogical myths recorded by King Joseph and Sefer Yosippon identified Khazar as the "brother" of other Turkic tribes like the Bulgars and Sabirs. Syriac legends said that the ancestor of the Khazars was named "Khazarig," the brother of "Bulgarios." Most scholars " believe that these legends have a historical basis and that the Khazars were indeed closely related to Turkic tribes such as the Bulgars and Bashkirs.
@@ИванПопев-ф7щ Khazars believe that Togarmah had 10 sons called Ujur , Tauriks , Avar , Uauz , Bizal , Tarna , Khozar , Janur , Balgar and Sabir . These names coincide with different Turkic tribes which settled in the area around the Black and Caspian seas within the Khazarian Empire .
I wouldn't say the Magyars were Turks in any sense, it is just the way the Byzantines classified them. The Hungarian munk Julianus has travelled in the region of the Volga Bulgars in the 13th century and found there his Hungarian relatives who he could still understand, which shows they were speaking Hungarian, not a form of Turkish.
Hungarian is a form of Turkish, i. e. y sound evolved to g sound. Thus Hungary iş Hunyeri in Turkish transliteration. İt means ' Place of Huns" Hun is Chinese word for non Chinese.
@@Muuu-x7h Well, not really. They are not even from the same family, but there are indeed grammatical similarities between Hungarian and Turkish, at least as much as between Hungarian and Eskimo languages (postpositioning, etc). And there are quite a lot of loan words from Turcic languages, but also a lot from Iranian ones, not to mention German and Slavic wich came later, but had much more impact on Hungarian than the two aforementioned asiatic languages. As for your explanation on what "Hungarian" means, it seems like a fun guessing game totally apart from what linguists say (Onogur comes from Turcic, the ten arrows or tribes). In Hungarian we don't use that foreign name, we call ourselves "magyar" and did so even when we lived near the Ural mountains.
@@CocoSon-we2rg Yes, Atilla is a very common name in Hungary. So is Sándor (Alexander). But nobody claims any descent from the Macedonians or the Greeks in Hungary as far as I know. It was believed in medieval Hungary that Attila was the first Hungarian king, which explains it all.
So much bullshit in the comments about the Bulgarian history.. First we are not Turkic. The Turks love to call us Turkic tribe, but we are not! Second we are NOT Slavs, it is communist propaganda for the Russians have easier control over us by saying we are the same people... The Russians are also not slavs, they are from viking/finnish origins.. We are mostly and only Thracians, but we also have some Iranian origins, in ancient times some Thracian tribes traveled to Asia for reasons. In Iranian museums they have some very ancient preserved maps were they show Bulgarians and Persians as one origin. And our common origin is Aryan!
Nobody is saying that today's Bulgarians are Turkic. Maybe you should stand up next time when you're listening to something. Apparently, you were sitting on your ears when you were watching the video! The Turkic Bulgars established a state, and then that ruling class dissolved into the locals, most of whom were Slavic. What remained of these early Turkic Bulgars was nothing but the name of your state.
What Turkic, what Muslims ? The Bulgarians are 1st and foremost Bulgarians, never 've been ''Turkic'' ; adopting the Islam was a gross mistake and giving away the Bulgarian culture and religion but given the fact that the kingdoms were making decisions forced by external factors ,at leas is comprehendible.
The proto-Bulgars were indeed step-nomads of Turkic origin. But by the early 11th century the Bulgarians were the descendants not only of those proto-Bulgars but mainly of Slavs that had migrated but also of Greeks and Thracians that preceded them and remained in the region. So maybe in an over simplistic way let's say the Bulgarians were a mix of Slavic, Bulgar and Thraco-Greek populations that adopted the ethnonym of the ruling elites (Bulgar) but came to speak the language of the majority population (Slavic).
The Volga Bulgarians are Thracians = Slavs, who changed to the Turkic Kipchak dialect in the 11th century! This information is given by Armenian chroniclers and Ibn Fadlan!
Even if Bulgars spoke Oghuric (Turkic) language, their ethnicity was probably mixed. They were not mongols, tatars. This I don't understand, one thing is to say the Bulgars spoke Turkic and another to say the bulgars were mongols. What mongols, tatars by the 7. century Europe, where Old Great Bulgaria was, Azov, Crimea, Caucasus? Let's assume for the sake of argument that the bulgars had East Asian ancestors from 600 years ago (speculative), do you think they can still be the same people now that they've reached Europe, centuries later? The Bulgars were not Slavs, of course. But when it comes to Danube Bulgaria after its establishment those Bulgars mixed with the Slavs and other local population to form the Bulgarian people, which was by the 10. century (common state, administration, law, common new religion - Orthodox, new script - Old Bulgarian (Old Slavonic).
@@Jzscrstsprstr The proto-Bulgars were indeed step-nomads of Turkic origin. But by the early 11th century the Bulgarians were the descendants not only of those proto-Bulgars but mainly of Slavs that had migrated but also of Greeks and Thracians that preceded them and remained in the region. So maybe in an over simplistic way let's say the Bulgarians were a mix of Slavic, Bulgar and Thraco-Greek populations that adopted the ethnonym of the ruling elites (Bulgar) but came to speak the language of the majority population (Slavic).
@@tokmakchibashi Sure. Putting aside now the question of the extent of the Turkic element (it's a hot topic here, that doesn't bother me much, besides I already touched upon it), I think what many bulgarians now would argue is that the bulgars were not "nomadic" per se, but rather semi-nomadic, considering they had a state Old Great Bulgaria; and even prior to that they are mentioned in Europe since the second half of the 5th c. A.D., after the death of Attila now there's Hunno-Bulgars (Kutrigurs/Utigurs), so they have political (in a sense) experience and a certain sedentariness.
Absolute nonsense! The Volga Bulgarians had their own writing (which they briefly applied and imposed during the creation of Cyrillic by Cyril and Methodius, who borrowed from it) which has nothing to do with Turkish languages, Turkish understandings and they did not believe in Islam! The Dullo clan has nothing to do with Islam. The transcripts were made from Turkish manuscripts and the Turks addressed God at that time with Tangra and wrote it in 14 different languages as an address for the god of the Bulgarians! The oldest and most accurate calendar in the world is the Bulgarian calendar (which was used as the official calendar before the fall of the Bulgarians under Ottoman slavery) recognized by UNESCO, according to which today is 11-09-7529! Stop talking nonsense and rewriting history!
İdil Bulgarları. Almış Han 920lerde ilk müslüman olan Türk lider olarak öğretiliyor okulllarda. Önceden 930larda Karahanlıların lideri Satuk Buğra Han'ı ilk müslüman Türk lider olarak öğretirlerdi sonradan değişti.
It is not even this. Some say Bulgaria is 30-35 000 yrs. old .By the way , I dislike it when many people try to disconnect Bulgaria from its past and glory , ascribing it ''Turkic '', ''Slavic'' and so on character .The Bulgarians are one of the oldest cultures on Earth ,if not the oldest and it requires some due respect !
What is the origin of your name and your history before Slavicization? Turkic. What is your language and identity today? Slavic. If you are so ancient like 30 000 years old, where are the traces, evidence, historical artifacts of your ancestors who are not originally Turks or Slavs? Dude what u all smoking in your schools? You all become delulu with extreme nationalism. Albanians are like this too. aw delululu balkanlıları.
Tokmakchi_bashi is an Ottoman propagandist. He claims to represent a nation of former Christian convers aka Rum millet aka modern Turks (5% Turkic genes)
What are you talking about! Muslims was came around 600 the Bulgarian from Volga was long before that time. Besides Turks are closer to Tatars and languages were different. If you don’t know now you know
@@tokmakchibashi Hello Turk (aka Rum millet). Better look at the following: 1. The modern Turks are nation of convers were the Turkish blood is 5% 2. The Ottoman empire in fact was a perversion of Islam. The Ottoman empire committed genocide against Armenians, Bulgarians, and Greeks. 3. Turkey must apologize to Armenians, Bulgarians, and Greeks and compensate them. 4. The Ottoman Empire was cancer inside the European civilization.
Brother , your information is by the conventional history written purposefully to minimize the identity and the role.of Bulgaria. The truth is that the Bulgarians have nothing to do with Turks. The Bulgarian language is the closest to sanskrit. Russian is effected in the ninth century. Bulgarians have developed countries and empires always . Never have been nomads. BulgAriya- Bulgarians are aryans. We have no Mongol DNA and features!!! Our original religion is the Vedas. The Volga Bulgarians are only a part of the Bulgarians and they have accepted Islam at some point of time. At the same time there were Bulgarians that lived in the Balkans and there were some evidences by the Greek and Roman historians . According to Jordanes- the army of Achiles was made up mirmidons or Bulgarians.
This concludes Season 4 of my "Historical Turkic and Steppe states" series and with it the stage of Early Medieval Steppe entities. Of course, there are more groups, tribes and states to cover in that time period. But I want to continue along the timeline and finally enter the most interesting era in all of Turkic and Mongolic history: the High Middle Ages. We are going to do just that with the next documentary which will handle the Kipchak-Cuman people who are also mentioned here. Until then, I'm off to finally finishing my second book about the Göktürk Empire...
kitabının türkçe versiyonu var mıdır? bulamadım da, okumak isterim.
Putting all those manly men on my screen made me lose focus in a few spots, and now I'll have to rewatch the entire series on the Turks and Steppes. It's very well done, so thank you.
@@vardekpetrovic9716😂
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100% исторически неграмотник!!!
I wish you to finish the projects well. I like your objectivity in dealing with subjects, some of which are sensitive
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Your information about the split of the Bulgars was not complete. You mentioned the Bulgars of Asparuh(Danubean Bulgars), the Bulgars of Batbayan(Staying in Fanagoria and becoming vassals of the Khazars), and the Bulgars of Kotrag(The Volga Bulgars). But there were also the tribes that went with Khan Altzek to Panonia and then to the Italian/Apennine peninsula, and the Bulgars of Kuber, who settled in the Greek/Eastern Roman region of Macedonia around Thessaloniki...
Still it is nice to see someone dig into the history of people and preserving their history. Well done!
То да беше само това. Половината неща, които говори тоя цървул, са лъжа. Абсолютна лъжа.
I thank you for your serious and constructive criticism! Indeed a point I missed. It is very well welcomed, and I urge to better myself next time. But to be frank, after so many strange comments with accusations and literally made-up stories from seemingly Bulgarian viewers themselves, I'd rather not return to Bulgar/Bulgarian history again. I made the stories because I found it to be interesting, but the people made me leave that topic.
☦️🇧🇬Bulgarians🇧🇬☦️ never were turkic.
☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🇹🇷☪️ennmis.
☦️🇧🇬❤️🇦🇲🇬🇪☦️🇬🇷☦️
Thank you for covering the history of our brother on the Volga!
Wish you all the best from Bulgaria!
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@@Kaloian_Ivanov You are Slavic, Volga Bulgars are not.
The Danube Bulgars became Slavic and became the modern "Bulgarians". The Volga Bulgars have retained their original language. Their descendants are the Chuvashs (Oghur language), and the Kazan Tatars (Kypchak language)
Volga Bulgar and Turkish comparison
Volga Bulgar:
Ätil suvi aka turur,
Kaya tübi kaka turur,
Balik tälim baka turur,
Kölün taki küšerür
Turkish:
İdil suyu aka durur,
Kaya dibi(ni) kaka [ite] durur,
Çok Balık (kur)bağa durur,
Gölü bile taşırır.
The language modern Bulgarian speeck is Slavonic, but that doesn't mean that they are not related to Volga Bulgars
I'm Tatar, greetings to my Bulgarian brothers
@@theheroickhan I am not Slavic,I may speak a Slavic language,but I am Bulgarian none the less.
If a Kazak speaks only Russian does this make him Russian/Slavic? I dont think so.
We took different language and religion,because of our imperial ambitions in the late 9th century,but this does not change our origin and identity.
BTW I study turkology.
@@Kaloian_Ivanov You are right
@@theheroickhan neither we are Slavic nor the Volga Bulgars are Turkic. Slavic and Turkic will occur way later as ethnic or cultural term describing ethnic or cultural communities that were formed centuries later. It has been most likely a federation of so called japhetic tribes.
I am proud to be Bulgarian 🇧🇬
So you accept that you are related to Turkish tribes? 😁
@@hoidoei8705 yes i accept that you are a**hole 😘
@@hoidoei8705 So are the Hungarians. Any problem with them?
Hello to Volga Bulgars from Bulgaria! Wish you all the best!
Hello from Tatarstan, Volga Bulgaria(and Chuvashia also Volga Bulgars) IYI
@@misterjonny8302 Bugarians from Danube bulgaria are free indioendant people..... The ones in Russia are Moscovity cocksuckersv......You are not Bulgarians. Go to to hell with Moscovity your masters..Muslim Slaves
Много се радвам, че твоите предци са били türko-езични. Ашколсун горд ТАТАРСКИ наследнико... Наливай още масло в огъня на македонистката машина!
Hello to Bulgarian brothers from Kazan
All best from Bulgars in Afghanistan
Two more Bulgar groups: Alzek's Bulgars settled in Italy (Celle di Bulgheria) and Kuber's Bulgars who settled in Macedonia.
Wasn’t aware that there was a Bulgar chieftain that settled in Macedonia. Have any archeological artefacts been found to support this?
Profil resmin Kıyı tamgası.
☦️🇧🇬Bulgarians🇧🇬☦️ never were turkic.
☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🇹🇷☪️ennmis.
☦️🇧🇬❤️🇦🇲🇬🇪☦️🇬🇷☦️
It's thanks to Volga Bulgaria that the Bulgars out of the various Oghur Turkic entities of Eurasia left the greatest legacy. Neither Huns nor Avars & Khazars left the marks and memory the Bulgars left
These are Slavs and they were racist against the Turks and Khazars. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What did they leave? If you say bulgaria of today unfortunately it is not Turkish just their name left!
@@BizmyurtThey left attested texts in the Bulgar language which are almost non-existent in the case of other Oghur Turkic groups, the Volga Tatar language also has massive Bulgar elements, as for modern Bulgaria sure it's a Slavic country which only adopted the Bulgar ethnonym of the Dulo overlords
@@Bizmyurt България започва с главна буква !
@@ЦочоШойлековТой е македонец :)
Amazing work on all fronts. Thank you very much.
Dude, your english so clear and good, you should keep using your own voice. for your videos I grew up in the US, btw, first language english etc..
Fun Fact: Bulgar language shares many cognates with Mongolian language due to both being Altaic languages.
Some of those words that i remember are chicken, rabbit and to be.
Found Old Great Bulgaria!? How do you establish something new and it's at the same time Old and Great? This video is not based on facts but on hypotheses. Recent DNA findings suggest otherwise. Bulgarians are not connected to Turkic tribes!
This ruling elite dominated a large state. While precise boundaries are unclear, Volga Bulgaria included substantial Finnic and Ugrian areas north of the Volga, a large part of modern Bashkiria to the east, much of the Volga region south of the Bulgar territory itself, and the lands of the Finns and east Slavs to the west perhaps as far as the Oka River. Volga Bulgaria was a multhiethnic state,with large numbers of Turkic Bulgars and Bashkirs, a variety of Finnic and Ugrian peoples, and many east Slavs.
Does genetic research matter to people like you? Show me one document or information from an ancient author, in which the old Bulgarians are defined as a Turkic or other East Asian people!
The production level of these videos gets better with each one. Not only fascinating history, they are a joy to look at. Well done to all responsible.
Thanks, that's indeed "just" me working on the videos. But these AI technologies certainly allow for more dynamic storytelling and they are certainly helpful with the animations.
But now this White Race peoples (Bvlgari/ Belgari/ Byalgari/ Belasgi/ Belargi/ Albanians, translated on Latin) already is mixture with Turki (Yellow Race/ Mongolians) and with Pale Race peoples (Russians)
@@KhansDen Волжките българи отдавна ги няма. Има само самозванци които крадат историята им. Те не са били тюрки. Само лъжи, измами и фалшификации, не само в това видео а навсякъде. Настъпи ерата на лъжата.
Thanks a lot for this documentary. The AI visuals really enchance your videos and make them very impersive. Great work!
Wonderful video brother and breakdown ❤
Our fellow bulgarians from the other sideee❤
Какви са тези юрти? Болгар е бил голям за времето си град със всички санитарни екстри .
Просто искат да ни изкарат диви татари
@@ioanandreev4253 потому что дунайские болгары ни генетически, ни лингвистически не связаны с оригинальными булгарами. На булгарском говорят лишь чуваши, хотя генетически они тоже не булгары
Българите са били полуномадскo племе. Тоест мърдаха на сам на там със музите конете и овцете. Юртата беше типично за тия времена. Великият Болгар си е било крепостен град но на периферията живееха овчари и т н т.
Cheers to all Bulgarians around the world.
Another theory is that in late 1223, the Bulgars defeated the Mongols. An army led by the Bulgar iltäbär (king) Ghabdulla Chelbir, including the armies of Mordvin princes Puresh and Purgaz, ambushed and defeated Subutais's vanguard forces in 1223 at the Battle of Samara Bend. The Khwarizmi historian al-Nasawi says only 4,000 survived. The captured Mongol troops were later sent back to Genghis, in exchange for live stock. This was unusual for the period, as captives were usually executed or sold into slavery. Al-Nasawi says that one Mongol captive was exchanged for one ram. Al-Althir's account also proves that they were ambushed in the Volga region. After several sharp skirmishes with the Bulgars, the tiring Mongols moved back down to the Volga. Meanwhile, the Russians continuously attacked the Bulgar State to try to attain supremacy of this wealthy region.
Side note
It would be amazing if you can make a video about the other brothers of Asparuh - Alcek and Kuber.
You lost me from the very beginning. The ancient Bulgarians war not turkic speaking people. There is not a single evidence about that. They have been influenced by Western Turkich Khaganat but they have not been a turkic tribe for sure. According to the largest genetic survey nowadays Danube Bulgarians are not far genetically from their ancestors which are close genetically to scitians and sarmatians.
Not only the Bulgarians are not ''Turkic'', further more, the 1st sultan of the Ottoman Empire had a surname Bolgar ; there is another quote too :'' We are not Turks, we are Bulgarians'' ! The thing is the aggressive modern propaganda from Turkey and some ex-Soviet republics ,and not only , that does not steps on facts but is fueled by much emotions ,sometimes money and indoctrination.
What Bulgurians smoke in their schools😂😂😂
@tokmakchibashi yep, that's what they were turned into after the acceptance of Islam by Baghdad Khalifat and assimilation of turkic tribes around. But if you read Ahmed Ibn Fadlan who led the mission of their islamisation you will be very surprised by the description of Bulgarians and the contrast with the description of oguz tribes which he describes as wild and dirty people wearing uncrafter animal skin. ;)
@@b.n.1441 Turkic peoples Bulgars, Cumans and Oghuzes ruled over Bulgarians 1000 years🤣🤣🤣 what a big shame lol
100% true
33:57 The descendants of the Volga Bulgars are the Chuvashes. The Tatars are descendants of Kypchaks which destroyed the so-called "Volga Bulgaria".
The actual name of the so-called "Volga Bulgaria" was Nurkhat Bulhar (Silver Bulgaria).
Генетически к булгарам ближе всего оказались башкиры, особенно северо-западные насколько я помню
I am speechless!!
This man here refuted the Bulgarian origin, which scientists have been looking for... for a century!
It is so unique that we already know about the existence of black and white Bulgarians at that time, and scientists still wonder what the old Bulgarians were like....
Well, we already know, some were white-masters, the others black-slaves.
We also determined with certainty that both Christianity and Islam believed in Tangra ....this theory, which has not yet been confirmed 100% by anyone!
Why does this person is not working for some scientific university, but is a blogger ???😂😂😂😂
Please enlighten us with your wisdom, Madame Nightcore professor.
@@KhansDen I did it already sweetheart ...
Wonderful documentary. All your studies, efforts are highly appreciated, valuable facts. Most of turkic, ugric: bulgar, magyar, avar, khazar, subar, sabir, saka, szekler tribes names are highly related and connected to each other as we can see easily in turkic history which is a continuation of older hunnic history.
Of course, all these turkic groups have intermixed with regional other ethnicities and differed partly in genetics, similar to oghuz turkic groups have intermixed with different other ethnicities in other different regions. But in conclusion, all turkic related ethnic groups have historical and linguistic connections.
We Never spoke Turkish or to have something 🙄 😕 🤔 😒 with the Turks ! WTF...we are Traks and Mix with Slavic 👣 traibs !
And here's the 5818th comment that does not understand that Bulgarians =/= Bulgars and that Turkish is not the same as Turk-ic. They never learn and don't even bother to.
Also, the lack of basic English skills is astounding here.
@@KhansDen listen my friend you know that turkic is ethnonim, which is not related to DNA but language and culture. Old bulgarian tribes may had some turkic words, and some cultural similarities, but in general we`re completely different people. By your logic after the 8th century - Serbians, Romanians, Russians, Ukraininans and all the poples who used to use Old church Bulgarian (now known as slavonik) are from bulgarian origin. Just don`t use this terminology for bulgars please...
The Volga Bulgarians were not Turks until 1223, when they entered into battle with the golden horde of the Mongol-Tatars, in the following years they mixed, therefore now the inhabitants of Kazan have Mongoloid features!Bulgarians have nothing to do with Turks, but with Iranians, Ossetians, even Alans and Scythians
Can you tell me meaning of word „Bulgar”?
@@NoMore1453 It'notbTurk!Names whit Asparuh,Persian are not turkish,there are iranian!(Persian)
@@АлександърГрозданов-д3м he is called Asparah Han and Iranian don’t use this title “Han” . Am l right ? By the way It seems to me that the Bulgarians deny their origins. They definitely want to impose your origins on the Slavs or Thracians. At least that's what your historians say. It's natural that you mixed with the Slavs and Thracians, but this doesn't change the fact that your origins come from another ethnic structure.
@@NoMore1453 There is no such thing anywhere in history Asparukh Khan, this is Under the Turks, There is Kanas Yu Bugi (Prince of God)-Asparukh
@@АлександърГрозданов-д3м i m a Turk and Asparuh /Azbaruk) this is Turkish name haha so funny
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage episode about Volga bulgar Turkik tribe's movements , settlements,and theirs historical print fingers ... thank you (Khan Den) channel for sharing .....
That part is basically our Hungarians history. On the map I think wasn't that separated. Also our and tatar documents shows exact correlations.
Yep, they are pretty entangled.
Thanks for the video!
I study the warrior cultures from this area and the Great Perm. My great grandfather's mother migrated to the US from Bulgaria via Spain. DNA testing from his family connected him with Udmurt/Bessermyane Finno-Ugric tribes. They settled in Finnish community in Michigan.
Wow what a journey
Amazing backstory you got there and I encourage you to dig even deeper, if that's even possible. Thank you for sharing!
@@KhansDen I believe I am getting a good picture. Thanks in part to your great research! Ural-Altai roots are ancient. Finn/Tatar history reaches from Altai-Sayan to Northern Michigan in Finnish/Sami American community. I have been blessed with the calling of the family historian.
@@KhansDen I have also made contact with our easternmost family relatives in Kazakhstan.
@@KhansDen I also want you to know that you are exactly right as far as my own personal family research goes with the Bulgars. Turkic Finno-Ugric folks. I know that you struck a chord with some people but that's okay. Strong people across the board 😊 I get a clearer picture of my family with each new video from Khan's Den.
Firstly, Bulgarians are not nomads - nomads do not create states and do not build fortresses and cities! IBn Fadlan, the envoy of the Arab caliph, in his mission to Volga Bulgaria describes the Bulgarians very accurately!He shows a clear difference between Buryats, Kabardians and Bulgarians, who had white faces, not Mongoloids!
Tell me! Hungarians What kind of face have ?
what about Khazar Kaghanate?
Пич, не се излагай като си неграмотен. Най-големите империи в историята са на евразийски номади. Ходи да гледаш Спароток и не се бъркай в неща, за които трябва поне едно десетилетие подготовка.
Can we expect any video about Massagetae?
kardeş eline sağlık. yapay zeka görsel ve animasyonların oldukça iyi.
bu kanalı çok seviyorum.
We the bulgarians were never turkic. There are enough modern studies the we are from pure european descendants
They weren’t Thraco-Greek looking like Bulgurians
When will you talk about the Crimean Khanate and the succesor states of the Golden Horde. I saw no one speak about tatar kazkah-nogai relation in that time period. Only Ottoman-tatar and other neighbouring states.
He will need to read a lot of russian falsified sources. Better to leave it to Qazaq.
Actually there are enough resources about them to the time of the russian occupation. After all, their heritage is a mix of proto Bulgarian, khazar, Mongol, and ottoman. Plus all bevor them.
According to Prof. Raymond Detrez, who is a specialist in Bulgarian history and language, such views are based on anti-Turkish sentiments and in serious scholarly circles it is well known that the Bulgar language was a Turkic one: Developing cultural identity in the Balkans: convergence vs divergence, Raymond Detrez, Pieter Plas, Peter Lang, 2005, p. 29
can I make a statement ? in Turkish ( Turkic ) Kara means North ,Kızıl means South, Ak means West ,Yeşil means East , Sarı means Centre ( central ) four directions of the compass. Saol Thank you for the upload.
Karaman Bayrağıyla ne işin var senin?Arslan İsrail Yabgu yu bilirmisin?Selçuk Beyin oğlu olan
Yes, but east is blue not green. Like Göktürks are blue turks meaning eastern turkic kaghanate.
It varies but generally north is black, south is white, east is blue and west is red.
@@etsafut South is red, alchons in india means red huns.
@@serkankinden5150 it's not always like this.
Ibn Fadlan vividly describes the peoples living there, the proto-Bulgarians, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Oghuz, Pechenegs, Khorezm people, their material culture, their social order, way of life, way of life, traditions, customs and rites
Ibn Fadlan is 🤡
☦️🇧🇬Bulgarians🇧🇬☦️ never were turkic.
☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🇹🇷☪️ennmis.
☦️🇧🇬❤️🇦🇲🇬🇪☦️🇬🇷☦️
If Turks wouldn't fight each other and on the enemies side they would have conquered the whole world!
Turks and turkic has almost nothing in common. And bulgars were not even turkic
@@KhaganTheGreatВолжките българи никога не с приемали турската култура,нито пък са говорили турски език. Мюсюлманството го приемат от Арабският халифат. Голяма част от така наречената турска култура е наследена от местните новозавладени народи в Мала Азия и Балканите. Другото е пропаганда. Спрете да четете Уикипедия и потърсете малко реални документи .
@@KhaganTheGreatNEIN NO NIET BULLSHIT
Lastly Turks were saved by West and Rossia in 1912!
@@udififkfkfck Speak English
Some cardinals are mentioned in the Danube Bulghar List of Princes, i.e. wać 'three, tot 'four, alti 'six', citi seven', wutur 'thirty'. Ordinals are formed by (+(D)m), e.g. wäćim 'third', tot-im 'fourth, alti-m 'sixth', citi-m 'seventh', segt-im 'eighth, wtir-im 'thirtieth'; cf. East Old Turkic (+()ně) in uč-inč, tort-inċ, alti-nč, yeti-nč, and Volga Bulghar väčim 'third', tüwätim 'fourth', altis 'sixth', čiyetis 'seventh'.
Johanson, L. and Csató, É.Á. (2022) The Turkic languages. London: Routledge.
Много невярни неща, да не кажа глупости се казаха. Българите не сме тюрки, не сме били танграисти, нямали сме ханове, а князе. Българите не сме номади. На всякъде сме строили каменни градове. На всякъде където сме минали има град с името Белград.
Точно така!
Yüzlerce yıl öncesinden bahsediyor. Diğer halklar ile karışmak kadar normal birşey yok. Ama tarihi kayıtlar var. Bulgaristan'ın kurucuları Türkler.
@@zahariykiritsov3998 и не само това,много Арменски и Арабски извори описват българите ,особено Ибн Фадлан,пратеник на аАрабския Халиф с мисия ,Волжките българи да приемат исляма и той описва детайлно стопанската култура,нравите ,обичаите и външния вид на племената,които среща по пътя си,ясно разграничава Българите като европеиди,докато Башкири,Калинки,Чуваши и тн,ги описва а като хора с малко брада,Монголоидни черти (силно изявени)-разлика в обичаите и тн,ама няма кой да чете,главен застъпник на тюркската теория е Васил Гюзелев,на когото дават и учебници да пише по история,това е глупост сътворена от поредното Министерство на Образованието на България!
@@bir_cumle Не, основателите на България не са турци и никога не са били
@@bir_cumleкакво говориш докажи ми къде пише да прочета
Желая всичко най хубаво на волжките българи, да бъдете щастливи, живи и здрави ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 благодаря за видеото ❤
Thanks for these videos. Would you consider using less AI? As they can make imperfect and misleading pictures. Really like this one becaue AI pics arent as prominent
Some Pechengs and Cumans migrated to Bulgaria and mixed with the local population. This is used as prove that the Bulgars south of the Danube were open to integrating with the people who occupied the territories where Bulgars did previously. The whole region was much more integrated than what is believed. The 12th century Second Bulgarian Empire was result of the union between Bulgarians, Vlachs and Cumans.
Wallahs are Romanized Bulgars
Ballakhs Balkhs Balkanians Balkhala - the hill of the brave Bulgars the Heaven
Cumans fully Turks
@@udififkfkfck Could you tell us who romanized them?
❤❤❤GREAT BEST NATION and Glorious of God ❤ When the Bulgarians created states, an Empire with a conglomerate of tribes nation’s , the other tribes and peoples ate bananas and also the cities of the Bulgarians Pliska Billiards many others were made of stone when other tribes lived in straw huts Even now the old capital of the Bulgarians Pliska is the most the great city in ancient times, bigger and more powerful than Constantinople, even Constantinople was saved from the invasion of the Arabs, who were close to the Bulgarians at that time in terms of mentality, but were driven out of Europe thanks to the Bulgarian King Tervel, GOD SAVE BULGARIA...
Almus' name is extremely interesting, because Arpad's father bears the same name, who lived just one generation earlier and was prince of the Hungarians. His name in Hungarian means "sleepy" or "from a dream", which is linked to the fact that he was conceived during her mother's sleep by the mythical bird Turul.
Saya menyukai sejarah dan yang paling saya kagumi adalah kebangkitan dua suku yang paling spektakuler di Asia dan Eropa menjadi sebuah bangsa penakluk yang luar biasa yaitu Mongol dan Turki
Size göre Türkler ile Moğolların aynı kökenden mi geliyorlar ?
I listen only 5min as there is two big mistakes. 1 bulgarians ARE Not turkic. 2. There are nt Nomad.
Actually they are + two more brothers - Kuber khan near vardar river , and Aztek khan in present day - Italy 😊
I wonder why most people accept so easy the theory that the Dunabe Bulgarians mixed so much with thracians and slavs and ottomans etc. There are many examples for people/tribes living together for centuries with minimal mix if at all. Like, with the gypsies. Living together for centuries but they have not changed and still living in their tribes.
I don't know the origin of the Bulgars. I know the origin of Bulgaria. Thracian tribes were already
living in modern day Bulgaria. Slavs migrated to that same region. Mixed with Thracians and formed early.
nation. Bulgars moved to that same territory. Then conquering early Bulgaria. Soon adopting the Slav
language and mixing with Slavs, Thracians. The Bulgars who did not convert to the Slav Thracian mix
were killed by the Bulgar, Slav, Thracian mix. The biggest percentage is Slav, Thracian, Bulgar.
this is the modified date imposed on you
I’m impressed
Modern research would situate the Magyars much more north at 3:14 - they apparently were always at the junction between forest and steppe, and the Kama-Volga region is precisely the place where most archaeological remains point to before their migration to Etelköz. And there was no Levedia phase for the Hungarians still according to the most recent research (3:50).
Regarding the continuity of the Bulgar identity the switch from Volga Bulgar to Volga Tatar can be compared to the Chagatai Turkic identity evolving into Uzbek, here's further proof involving both parties a Timurid epigraph originally recorded in Chagatai Turkic about Timur's campaign against the Golden Horde
"Summer seven hundred and ninety-three, in the middle spring month of the year of the sheep [April 6, 1391], Sultan of Turan Timur-Bey moved with three hundred thousand troops for Islam towards the Bulgar Khan Tokhtamysh Khan. Reaching the area, he built this mound to be a memorial. God willing, the Lord would execute justice! The Lord will have mercy on the people of the country! Yes, they will remember us with prayer!”
Arabs and Romans say that Volga Bulgars are Slavs. Sorry, brother.
@@عليياسر-ك9ظ Good lier
Tokhtamysh was a descendant of Genghis Khan which means he was of the Mongols who invaded and conquered Bulgaria. Therefore the title "Bulgar Khan" is not an ethnic definition of Tokhtamysh. He is a fake Bulgar, as well as Volga Tatars, who are descendants of the Kipchaks who invaded Bulgaria as part of the Mongol armies. The descendants of the Volga Bulgars are the Chuvashes.
@@volgabulgarsask a Mongolian what Genghis Khan means. They wont be able to answer. Genghis Khan was pure Turk, as in a Kazakh/Kyrgyz.
@@Qazaq_Qiyat_1465 That doesn't make Genghis Khan and Tokhtamysh ethnic Bulgars anyway. The Bulgar (Bolgar) identity of Tokhtamysh and the Volga Tatars is not linked to ethnic Bulgars, but the Golden Horde city of Bolgar and Muslim tradition that emerged there.
The proto-Bulgarians have nothing to do with the Tatars. This has been proven. Be accurate in your story!
No. Watch and listen again. I'll make it simpler for you to understand:
The region of old Volga Bulgaria TODAY is called Tatarstan. It is called Tatarstan because TATAR people from East Asia settled here AFTER the Volga Bulgar state collapsed. The people who live in Tatarstan TODAY however do have Volga Bulgar lineage. Because the Volga Bulgars did not simply vanish, they were assimilated.
And if you have a problem with TATARSTAN as a name, go complain to the RUSSIANS who took that name which was extensively used among scholars and historians since the Middle Ages onwards. It's not my invention.
Certain people here seriously lack English listening comprehension.
@@KhansDen correction: Kuman (Kipchak) people settled in Volga Bulgaria. Tatar is not an ethnicity - it is a status. The modern population of republic Tatarstan is a mixture of Ugro-Finians, proto-Bulgarians, and Kumans.
The turkic markers in the genetics markers of the bulgarian DNA is under 3%. The graves are oriented on the axs North South, but in the world of the turks the body is oriented East West. There are also a lot of similirities between bulgarian and iranian tribes, armenian tribes, alani and sarmations, which lead to the conclusion that the origin is the region of Caucasus, Crimea and region above the peninsila.
to be expected, there were the 7 Slavic tribes, the remnants of the Thracians, the Bulgar element cannot be anything but miniscule
@@kekule71 The Bulgar DNA can be traced from Crimea and Caucasus to Bavaria, Italy and the Balkans. When the Bulgars arrive on the Balkans, there are only the left overs from Thrace. The Slavic tribes will arrive a couple of years later with the mission to survive, not to rule. Your theory is reject by the DNA results of many graves, who were researched in the past years.
The slavs are mad turks travelled lands across continents and founded their first nations.
Not so. Early Slav Thracian nation existed prior to the Bulgar conquest.
Shortly after, Bulgars adopted Slav language and mixed with Slavs, Thracians.
The Bulgars that did not convert to the Slav Thracian mix were
killed by the Slav, Thracian, Bulgar mix.
Глупости, глупости!!! Какви славяни, какви 5 лева..... Понятието "славяни" се появява по време на Екатерина Велика.... Това понятие "славяни" е геополитическа амбиция на едни от най-неблагодарните спрямо българите народи, с болни имперски амбиции... На същите тях нашите деди са дали азбука, религия знание за това, как се гради и управлява държава. и пр.
The young Bulgarian Nationalist came to say that they did not come from Central Asia. They came down from the sky as Slavs.
The slavs are insecure as always.
they are stupid as fuck. they cant admit that original bulgarians were turkic because they got conquered by ottoman turks. they dont wanna be something they hate
You know that the Indo-European tribes lived in Central Asia, you idiot. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
BS - I am a Bulgarian nationalist and I am proud of my Turanian origin, Also there are a lot who think like me.
@@Kaloian_Ivanov My Turanian brother, bir tamga IYI bir töre.
Slav propaganda was made to all puppet states during the Soviet period. I love Bulgaria
Again great video. Dulo is the Slavic version of Tuğluk tribes. Tuğluk and Onok are the two rival tribe federations inside Western Gokturk. Tuğluk divided into Khazars, Bulgars, Bashkirs and Pechenegs while Onok became Kipchak Kimek and Oghuz. Tuğluk and Onok represents Ogur (R) and Shaz (Z) Turkic respectively
Dulo is not Slavic version of Tuğluq. Dulo is Bulgaro Chuvash version of Common Turkic Tuğluq. The rest is true.
@@nadirhikmetkuleli Chinese T'ulu, Slavic Dulo, Turkic Tuğluk
@@alibak5537 That's not true. Dulo is an endonym of Oghuric speaking tribe. Maybe Slavs directly borrowed it from Oghuric speakers.
And how turk tribes who lives in tents build such a citys like Bilal and Bulgar?
I don't know. How did Genghis Khan, whose Mongols used to live in tents, build a city that included fortifications, a palace, and up to 100,000 inhabitants? A mystery...
@@KhansDen there are no evidence that Bulgarians were turcks.
☦️🇧🇬Bulgarians🇧🇬☦️ never were turkic.
☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🇹🇷☪️ennmis.
☦️🇧🇬❤️🇦🇲🇬🇪☦️🇬🇷☦️
Originally Ghenghis khan state was called Khanlig. Ulus originally meant Share/Division. Initially Mongqol had no ethno-nationalistic meaning and rather was a consolidation of tribes, including mongolic, turko-mongolic, and turkic
Can you list your sources in your videos info going forward? I'd like to check your sources before buying your book. Judging from your comment section it seems like everyone is potentially just jamming their fists up their arses and claiming what comes out is the truth...
There is absolutely no historical evidence of the title khan attached to the Bulgarian rulers. On the contrary: all written sources call them KNYAZ.
The administrative terminology and structure of the First Bulgarian Empire was Turkic , although not everyone admits as much . The ruler was titled the “ khan " or " qan " , the traditional steppe imperial title of the supreme and sacred lineage , which can be attested as early as the fourth century among the Juan - Juan , is preserved in the eighth century Orkhon inscriptions in Mongolia , and was later used by the most successful steppe empire in history , the Mongol Empire of Chinghis Khan .
IDEL can mean also - IDE seven EL clans(kinship of God) or "Seven divine clans"
Ahmed ibn Fadlan ibn al-Abbas ibn Rashid ibn Hammad (in Arabic احمد بن فضلان بن العباس بن راشد بن حماد)[1] was an Arab traveler and writer who lived in the first half of the 10th century. In 921 he was sent
Ibn Fadlan🤡 Ibn Abbas🤡 and Ibn Rashid🤡
فيديو رائع يا سيدي❤❤❤❤❤❤
Comment to appease the capricious algorithm.
Bulgars ≠ Bulgarians
Bulgars = Oghur Turkic
Bulgarian = Slavic
Volga Bulgar and Turkish comparison
Volga Bulgar(according to I love languages):
Ätil suvi aka turur,
Kaya tübi kaka turur,
Balik tälim baka turur,
Kölün taki küšerür
Turkish:
İdil suyu aka durur,
Kaya dibi(ni) kaka [ite] durur,
Çok Balık (kur)bağa durur,
ölü bile taşırır.
Volga Bulgarian text is from Divanı lügat it Türk, in Karakhanid language. It's not Volga Bulgarian language.
@Burak-gr4ee Are you sure bro ?
@@theheroickhan Evet, elimde kitap da var. Ercilasun'un çevirisinde sayfa 34'te. Atalay'da ise birinci ciltte sayfa 73'te.
@@theheroickhanMadde başında “Etil - Kıpçak diyarında bir ırmağın adı...” yazıyor. Şaz Türkçesi olduğu, Bulgarca olmadığı şıw yerine suw yazmasından belli zaten.
Your first king is Kubrat Khan. This is a Turkish name. Also his successors also bear Turkish names. The Bulgarian Runic alphabet is an exact copy of the Gokturk alphabet. The symbols of the historian Bulgarian clans are also Turkish tribal symbols still used today.
Bolga\Volga is the same thing. The word 'bUlgar' is accentuated and truncated pronunciation. The precise word is 'Bolgarians' mean the arians of Bolg, hence that is how the river got its name - the people of Bolg gave it to it (a river can not name itself). When the Great Bolgaria split and dissolved (after the death of tzar Kubrat\Korbat) some of the bolgarians mixed with turkic people, some mixed with slovonic (slavs) + one big chunk mixed with tracians (todays Bulgaria on the Balkans) and a very small part mixed with the romans\latins (in Italy, the Altzek bolgarians where the town Chelle di Bulgheria is today in Italy). The bolgarian language shaped the southern slavic to old church slavonic (the base of todays Russian\Serbian\Ukranian and so on), where Bolgarian language is the hardest in pronunciation, yet still it is closest to all slavonic languages.
Bulgars called Volga Itil or Kazan
@@tokmakchibashi Bulgars - maybe. Bolgarians - no.
@@ivaylo-from-earthBulgarians = pseudobulgars
@@tokmakchibashi The correct way to spell it is: BOLGarians.
Bulgars is not correct, it is truncated and phonetically changed (o → u → ъ).
Tatar propaganda
Bulgars are not turkic they are thracians skytians huns not turkic
The proto-Bulgars were indeed step-nomads of Turkic origin. But by the early 11th century the Bulgarians were the descendants not only of those proto-Bulgars but mainly of Slavs that had migrated but also of Greeks and Thracians that preceded them and remained in the region. So maybe in an over simplistic way let's say the Bulgarians were a mix of Slavic, Bulgar and Thraco-Greek populations that adopted the ethnonym of the ruling elites (Bulgar) but came to speak the language of the majority population (Slavic).
Wish I could visit Volga Bulgar, I'm from Danubean Bulgar.
☦️🇧🇬Bulgarians🇧🇬☦️ never were turkic.
☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🇹🇷☪️ennmis.
☦️🇧🇬❤️🇦🇲🇬🇪☦️🇬🇷☦️
Bulgar brothers!
☦️🇧🇬Bulgarians🇧🇬☦️ never were turkic.
☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🇹🇷☪️ennmis.
☦️🇧🇬❤️🇦🇲🇬🇪☦️🇬🇷☦️
The name Bulgarian is not only in the narrow framework of nationality, but of statehood, management, culture!!! The Volga River is probably the Bolga!!!
Dans "Le Voyage chez les Bulgares de la Volga", qui est un récit de voyage du Xe siècle du voyageur arabe Aḥmad ibn Faḍlān(écrit en Xe siècle, donc!). Ce dernier faisait partie de l’ambassade abbasside envoyée par le calife al-Muqtadir le 21 juin 921 en direction du roi des Bulgares de la Volga, Almish. C' est une œuvre importante dans la littérature géographique arabe d’un point de vue historique, géographique et ethnographique, Aḥmad ibn Faḍlān a bien différencier entre les bulgares de Volga et les peuples nomades Turks. Déjà les bulgares ne sont pas des nomades, et bien différents des turks, et il à très bien décrit la différence.
By this logic Brits or Germans are not Germanic because they speak different languages and have their own identities. Turk was name of only one Turkic tribe in ancient times.
Бъларите не са тюрки!!! Къде го учите това
Така им е по лесно,една лъжа да се повтаря 1000пъти!
Учат го в чифутските пропагандни драсканици, които петнат паметта на НАШИТЕ ДЕДИ... Като ги чета тия простотии имам усещането, че някой иска да изкара днешните българи - небългари. Тия всичките "любители на историята" трябва да знаят, че БЪЛГАРИТЕ / наричани в древността от чуждоземците "траки" / са разнесли култура по целият тогавашен свят та чак до Япония и това се знае мнооого добре от тези, които имат достъп до вярната информация... Та личности, като Франсоа Митеран, Акад. Лихачов и др. са го заявявали " Историята на човешката цивилизация започва от Българрия" "Българите са коренното население на тази земя и не сме мърдали от тук поне от времето, от когато датират костите с резките намерени в пещера козарника" цитат Проф. Веселина Вачкова.... И още нещо България е единствената страна, която граничи сама със себеси....
I just want to point out that Apsparuh is not a TUrkic name Asparukh is a Middle Iranian male name,[1] attested in ancient Georgia and early medieval Bulgaria. It is a compound with the two elements: "aspa" (horse) and "rauk" (shine), meaning "he who has shining horses". Having said that the Bulgars were descendants of the Sarmati who were a Persian tribe close to the Scythians who were also Persian-Iranian. Just because an intermix happened with Turkic tribes does not mean that the BUlgars were of Turkic origin... Please explore more before posting Russian propaganda...Kubrat is also Persian name....
The name Kubrat derived from the Turkic words qobrat - "to gather", or qurt, i.e. "wolf".
Скитите не са иранци. Скитите са наследници на Кимерийци и Тракийци, които са Арийски или древно-български племена, завзели Иранските земи.
👍! Actually Mongols were also Turkic tribes such as Naiman, Kerey, Merket, etc. belong to Current Khazakh people. Current Mongols have no any relation to Chingizkhan’s Mongol tribes. They got the name of Mongol by Russians in 20 century with political purpose.
Öngüt, Barga, Bayad, Uriankhai, Jalair as well
❤❤❤
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Idel* not Volga
Bulgarian boy: Wait a minute ! Am I a Turk?
No he is not. He is not a BULGAR, he is Bulgarian. Bulgar and Bulgarian are two different things. Bulgars were Turkic, Bulgarians are not.
@@nadirhikmetkuleli hahahahhahaha
@@mpidismpidaros4927 Mocking will not change the fact which you ignore and deny.
Probably, or a mix of Turkic descent of some sort. You’ll find the only difference between todays Bulgarians and modern day Turks is religion, the culture is the same and continues even in Bulgaria, the turkic culture is all over the Balkans.
@Ha15679 that is NOT true. Bulgarian ppl are much different than Turkish people. Kulture is totally different, more open minded ,cultured , soft , not demonic
Turkish.
Всички говорите много сладки приказки за историята, но никога не се позовавате на исторически извори и факти!
Turkic and Jewish genealogical myths recorded by King Joseph and Sefer Yosippon identified Khazar as the "brother" of other Turkic tribes like the Bulgars and Sabirs. Syriac legends said that the ancestor of the Khazars was named "Khazarig," the brother of "Bulgarios." Most scholars " believe that these legends have a historical basis and that the Khazars were indeed closely related to Turkic tribes such as the Bulgars and Bashkirs.
These is most big lies i have ever heard Bulgarians and Khazars fought each they were not brothers only sick interpretations 😂😂😂
@@ИванПопев-ф7щ
Khazars believe that Togarmah had 10 sons called Ujur , Tauriks , Avar , Uauz , Bizal , Tarna , Khozar , Janur , Balgar and Sabir . These names coincide with different Turkic tribes which settled in the area around the Black and Caspian seas within the Khazarian Empire .
@@tokmakchibashi oh rly?! We are not here discussing of tales plz ... , 😭😭😭 but history evidence,..proves!! This is not serious 👎
Алга българ-огур❤🇧🇬✊🐺
☦️🇧🇬Bulgarians🇧🇬☦️ never were turkic.
☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🇹🇷☪️ennmis.
☦️🇧🇬❤️🇦🇲🇬🇪☦️🇬🇷☦️
I wouldn't say the Magyars were Turks in any sense, it is just the way the Byzantines classified them. The Hungarian munk Julianus has travelled in the region of the Volga Bulgars in the 13th century and found there his Hungarian relatives who he could still understand, which shows they were speaking Hungarian, not a form of Turkish.
Hungarian is a form of Turkish, i. e. y sound evolved to g sound. Thus Hungary iş Hunyeri in Turkish transliteration. İt means ' Place of Huns" Hun is Chinese word for non Chinese.
@@Muuu-x7h The highest percentage of the first name, Atilla, is of Hungarians.
@@Muuu-x7h Well, not really. They are not even from the same family, but there are indeed grammatical similarities between Hungarian and Turkish, at least as much as between Hungarian and Eskimo languages (postpositioning, etc). And there are quite a lot of loan words from Turcic languages, but also a lot from Iranian ones, not to mention German and Slavic wich came later, but had much more impact on Hungarian than the two aforementioned asiatic languages. As for your explanation on what "Hungarian" means, it seems like a fun guessing game totally apart from what linguists say (Onogur comes from Turcic, the ten arrows or tribes). In Hungarian we don't use that foreign name, we call ourselves "magyar" and did so even when we lived near the Ural mountains.
@@CocoSon-we2rg Yes, Atilla is a very common name in Hungary. So is Sándor (Alexander). But nobody claims any descent from the Macedonians or the Greeks in Hungary as far as I know. It was believed in medieval Hungary that Attila was the first Hungarian king, which explains it all.
Frumos da dacii lu zamolxe inca mai frumos✌✌✌✌✌✌
So much bullshit in the comments about the Bulgarian history.. First we are not Turkic. The Turks love to call us Turkic tribe, but we are not! Second we are NOT Slavs, it is communist propaganda for the Russians have easier control over us by saying we are the same people... The Russians are also not slavs, they are from viking/finnish origins.. We are mostly and only Thracians, but we also have some Iranian origins, in ancient times some Thracian tribes traveled to Asia for reasons. In Iranian museums they have some very ancient preserved maps were they show Bulgarians and Persians as one origin. And our common origin is Aryan!
Nobody is saying that today's Bulgarians are Turkic. Maybe you should stand up next time when you're listening to something. Apparently, you were sitting on your ears when you were watching the video! The Turkic Bulgars established a state, and then that ruling class dissolved into the locals, most of whom were Slavic. What remained of these early Turkic Bulgars was nothing but the name of your state.
Bro even Volga bulgars are near to Vizantion than to mongols.
The Bulgars are not a Turkic tribe!!!
What Turkic, what Muslims ? The Bulgarians are 1st and foremost Bulgarians, never 've been ''Turkic'' ; adopting the Islam was a gross mistake and giving away the Bulgarian culture and religion but given the fact that the kingdoms were making decisions forced by external factors ,at leas is comprehendible.
The proto-Bulgars were indeed step-nomads of Turkic origin. But by the early 11th century the Bulgarians were the descendants not only of those proto-Bulgars but mainly of Slavs that had migrated but also of Greeks and Thracians that preceded them and remained in the region. So maybe in an over simplistic way let's say the Bulgarians were a mix of Slavic, Bulgar and Thraco-Greek populations that adopted the ethnonym of the ruling elites (Bulgar) but came to speak the language of the majority population (Slavic).
The Volga Bulgarians are Thracians = Slavs, who changed to the Turkic Kipchak dialect in the 11th century! This information is given by Armenian chroniclers and Ibn Fadlan!
☦️🇧🇬Bulgarians🇧🇬☦️ never were turkic.
☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🇹🇷☪️ennmis.
☦️🇧🇬❤️🇦🇲🇬🇪☦️🇬🇷☦️.
Ibn Fadlan is 🤡
The old Bulgarians are a Sarmatian people. That is, European people. They are not Turko-Mongols. Stop spreading lies!
However bulgarian - ruths are Mongolian/Tatarstan/Turk !!! They ORIGINALLY ARE NOT SLAVS !!! They become Slavs thousands years later !!!!!
Even if Bulgars spoke Oghuric (Turkic) language, their ethnicity was probably mixed. They were not mongols, tatars. This I don't understand, one thing is to say the Bulgars spoke Turkic and another to say the bulgars were mongols. What mongols, tatars by the 7. century Europe, where Old Great Bulgaria was, Azov, Crimea, Caucasus? Let's assume for the sake of argument that the bulgars had East Asian ancestors from 600 years ago (speculative), do you think they can still be the same people now that they've reached Europe, centuries later? The Bulgars were not Slavs, of course. But when it comes to Danube Bulgaria after its establishment those Bulgars mixed with the Slavs and other local population to form the Bulgarian people, which was by the 10. century (common state, administration, law, common new religion - Orthodox, new script - Old Bulgarian (Old Slavonic).
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The proto-Bulgars were indeed step-nomads of Turkic origin. But by the early 11th century the Bulgarians were the descendants not only of those proto-Bulgars but mainly of Slavs that had migrated but also of Greeks and Thracians that preceded them and remained in the region. So maybe in an over simplistic way let's say the Bulgarians were a mix of Slavic, Bulgar and Thraco-Greek populations that adopted the ethnonym of the ruling elites (Bulgar) but came to speak the language of the majority population (Slavic).
@@tokmakchibashi Sure. Putting aside now the question of the extent of the Turkic element (it's a hot topic here, that doesn't bother me much, besides I already touched upon it), I think what many bulgarians now would argue is that the bulgars were not "nomadic" per se, but rather semi-nomadic, considering they had a state Old Great Bulgaria; and even prior to that they are mentioned in Europe since the second half of the 5th c. A.D., after the death of Attila now there's Hunno-Bulgars (Kutrigurs/Utigurs), so they have political (in a sense) experience and a certain sedentariness.
Absolute nonsense! The Volga Bulgarians had their own writing (which they briefly applied and imposed during the creation of Cyrillic by Cyril and Methodius, who borrowed from it) which has nothing to do with Turkish languages, Turkish understandings and they did not believe in Islam! The Dullo clan has nothing to do with Islam. The transcripts were made from Turkish manuscripts and the Turks addressed God at that time with Tangra and wrote it in 14 different languages as an address for the god of the Bulgarians! The oldest and most accurate calendar in the world is the Bulgarian calendar (which was used as the official calendar before the fall of the Bulgarians under Ottoman slavery) recognized by UNESCO, according to which today is 11-09-7529! Stop talking nonsense and rewriting history!
İdil Bulgarları. Almış Han 920lerde ilk müslüman olan Türk lider olarak öğretiliyor okulllarda. Önceden 930larda Karahanlıların lideri Satuk Buğra Han'ı ilk müslüman Türk lider olarak öğretirlerdi sonradan değişti.
Değişti mi o müfredat cidden. Ben çocukken karahanlı diyorlardı harbi😂
It is not even this. Some say Bulgaria is 30-35 000 yrs. old .By the way , I dislike it when many people try to disconnect Bulgaria from its past and glory , ascribing it ''Turkic '', ''Slavic'' and so on character .The Bulgarians are one of the oldest cultures on Earth ,if not the oldest and it requires some due respect !
What is the origin of your name and your history before Slavicization? Turkic. What is your language and identity today? Slavic. If you are so ancient like 30 000 years old, where are the traces, evidence, historical artifacts of your ancestors who are not originally Turks or Slavs? Dude what u all smoking in your schools? You all become delulu with extreme nationalism. Albanians are like this too. aw delululu balkanlıları.
Tokmakchi_bashi is an Ottoman propagandist. He claims to represent a nation of former Christian convers aka Rum millet aka modern Turks (5% Turkic genes)
What are you talking about! Muslims was came around 600 the Bulgarian from Volga was long before that time. Besides Turks are closer to Tatars and languages were different. If you don’t know now you know
You want to hear that you are Thracian and slav 😀!
Please, stop telling that the ancient Bulgars were a Turkic tribe. This statement is not supported at all.
Not supported by Bulgurçian historians ofc
@@tokmakchibashi Hello Turk (aka Rum millet). Better look at the following: 1. The modern Turks are nation of convers were the Turkish blood is 5% 2. The Ottoman empire in fact was a perversion of Islam. The Ottoman empire committed genocide against Armenians, Bulgarians, and Greeks. 3. Turkey must apologize to Armenians, Bulgarians, and Greeks and compensate them. 4. The Ottoman Empire was cancer inside the European civilization.
@@ogniankamenov481 I really wonder what you smoke in Bulgarian schools😹😹😹
@@tokmakchibashi You better do genetic test, Rum millet boy
There are even Caucasus Bulgars.
Brother , your information is by the conventional history written purposefully to minimize the identity and the role.of Bulgaria.
The truth is that the Bulgarians have nothing to do with Turks. The Bulgarian language is the closest to sanskrit. Russian is effected in the ninth century. Bulgarians have developed countries and empires always . Never have been nomads. BulgAriya- Bulgarians are aryans. We have no Mongol DNA and features!!! Our original religion is the Vedas. The Volga Bulgarians are only a part of the Bulgarians and they have accepted Islam at some point of time.
At the same time there were Bulgarians that lived in the Balkans and there were some evidences by the Greek and Roman historians . According to Jordanes- the army of Achiles was made up mirmidons or Bulgarians.
Bulgar =/= Bulgarian
Modern day Bulgarians are Slavs, and some of them are in denial.