Electronic Warfare in the Air Domain: Russia vs Ukraine
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Bronk, Justin; Jack Watling and Nick Reynolds (2022). “The Russian Air War and Ukrainian Requirements for Air Defence“, RUSI, November 2022.
McCrory, Duncan (2023) “Electronic Warfare in Ukraine - Preliminary Lessons for NATO Air Power Capability Development”, JAPCC Journal, Vol. 36.
NATO (2023) „Electromagnetic warfare“, last modified Mar 22, 2023, www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/to...
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Watling, Jack and Nick Reynolds (2023) “”Meatgrinder: Russian Tactics in the Second Year of Its Invasion of Ukraine”, RUSI, May 2023.
Wildenberg, Thomas (2023) „Fighting in the Electromagnetic Spectrum”. Naval Institute Press. Annapolic, MD.
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00:16 - Russia vs Ukraine: Electronic Warfare in the Air Domain
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The sound quality in this video is so bad that you should take it down.
Please don't put annoying background "music" in your videos. I've always thought of your videos as educational, not TV entertainment. That continuous thumping and other noises interfere with comprehension. 🙁
As a former EW SIGINT Non-Communications Interceptor, I can absolutely confirm that things go BOOM as a result of EW. Identifying and geolocating TA and TT radars associated with SAM systems absolutely puts them at the top of the 'destroy this' list. You can't begin to have air superiority until you disable the enemy's SAM systems. IR or laser designated systems are another story, however.
Or they just fall out of the Sky... Just like the two SU-27 Air 2 air missiles fired upon the RAF aircraft...
It comes in many ways.
Oh give me a break. Why do some Iraqi or Afghanistan veteran always have to chime in as if what they have accomplished meant anything. They used a near Trillion dollar military against guys in Iraq, who had been sanctioned for 20 years and whose military hardware were broken or rarely worked because of it. And Afghanistan was still using the same stuff they fought the Soviets with.🙄🙄
@@TheRealBillBob Because it wasn't designed for Iraq... it was designed for Russia...
Just like the sanctions... They are designed for a "developed" nation... hence why prices are going through the roof in Russia causing arguments in the streets and on television... even the Vatnyk propagandists on TV are moaning about it now.
@@TheRealBillBobworks normally against the russian controlled airspace in syria. unless you're going to say the s400 stationed there are too old and all that
because everyone seems to get in and out of there no trouble at all so far
@@bzipoli с-400 охраняет Российскую базу.что то я не слышал чтобы она подверглась нападению с воздуха.а вото про Американские базы я слышу часто особенно в последнее время.
I'm an electrical engineer who had some exposure to ECM gear while an avionics tech in the military. I've also had the pleasure of browsing through a book that went into details on how radar works. Is there any chance of a introductory video (or more?) on how different types of ECM work? Or maybe a link to someone who has already done this? The old technique was to just overwhelm the signals, but even 40 years ago, there were much less obvious jamming techniques that altered the signals instead of drowning them out.
I'd be interested in the same thing
That would be very interesting.
You're asking for mostly classified information. Or at least that specific application of common electronics uses.
If you pay attention to what is said, you can learn much. When the spy balloon scenario played out, people were outraged the US military allowed it to continue over the contiguous US. But a military official said they "neutralized its intelligence gathering capabilities" and were "studying it and had determined what its capabilities were". Then prompty shot it down with not just a missile. But an Aim-9X heat seeking missile. People were outraged again at the government waste of not using cheap bullets. But it was a signal to China, that our heat seeking missiles can track and destroy aircraft that produce zero heat.
A deep dive into SR-71 tech shows, they did not overwhelm the inbound missiles onboard radar. They mimicked its signal and transmitted back to the threat a different location. This seemed to work, with a track record of >4,000:0. And also eliminates making yourself an enormous EM transmitter that can easily be tracked.
I think millennium m7* has stuff about em on his channel
@@jj4791Good point about the AIM-9X against a balloon. I hasn't really thought about that.
here in Cuba was the electronic espionage and signals intelligence base outside the Soviet Union, it was called Lourdes.
Counterspace has been around for decades. In the 1980s, I helped maintain a satellite whose primary sensor had a limited arc of use. We kept it up there under orders and every few months someone would contact us and ask about the satellite's condition. Nothing changed for a year, to the apparent disappointment of the contacts. Then, suddenly, the main sensor started functioning over the entire arc of scanning. Immediately after, the mystery folks contacted us and we thanked them for fixing our spacecraft. The method used was only loosely in the electromagnetic spectrum - it was a laser weapon. Less than a decade later, I worked on developing a defense against such a weapon.
Russia has had COMPLETE AND TOTAL control of the air. Ukrainians had been unable to provide air support for their forces and also failed to kill a single Russian fighter, while Russians used their aircraft with impunity, apart from ground threat. Ground threat is separate from attaining air supremacy and control of the air.
I think and su27 and a su35 have been shot down by SAMs as well as quite a few su25s. Still pretty good if russia is flying over 100 missions a day. (I think I heard over 100 missions per day about six months ago.)
@@Greasy__Bear I saw those reports. Russians however never flew Su-27s in Ukrainian skies. Only Su-30SM, Su-34 and Su-35S fighters, Su-25 CAS birds and Mi-24, Mi-28 and Ka-52 choppers on combat missions. Wagner PMC did fly a Su-24 which got shot down.
Point I'm trying to make is that SAM threat isn't aerial. It's a ground threat, and MANPADS never go away. Not today with their massive proliferation in militaries. Russia has made sure Ukraine can't provide air support for their troops on the ground because it shoots Ukrainian fighters and strikers down. Meanwhile Russians are conducting any and all aerial missions they consider necessary to conduct, being mindful of ground threat. That's definition of achieving and maintaining air supremacy.
Mission rate is indeed very high, but that's a general overall mission rate across all platforms deployed, so choppers, fighters, CAS and even the Mainstays. Russians even used Tu-22M3s for some missions when they fired Kh-32 anti-ship missiles at ground targets. 1100lb High-Explosive warhead is scary enough. Some Kh-22 were fired too which are worse: 2200lb. I REALLY don't envy the Ukrainians.
@@Greasy__Bear Am sure they are now flying more than that ever since the counter offensive. Also, there is constant daily strikes at the Avdeevka settlement. The russian air force is taking center stage in this area with those FaB bombs. and so far, Ukraine hasnt shot down any of the planes dropping those fat loads. Atleast l havent seen any news about such a thing. Ukraines Air defenses are pretty much done at the front. Same goes for the back, otherwise, there power grid would not be in the danger its in
@@ReichLife what changed? Ukraine wiped russia's air force?
@@Greasy__Bear Ukrainians say that Russia was dropping ~250 guided glide bombs daily in Avdeevka. It means min 60 flights in Avdeevka only.
WIth EW and Sat's in LEO not being separate issues. Just jamming GPS would be one simple example that's been a problem here since 2020'ish. My home was near the contact line (60km as the crow flies) in Donbas and I used to pay attention to the OSCE reports, being so close to the "grey zone". One big problem before the 2022 re-invasion was the OSCE’s long-range UAVs were experiencing GPS signal interference on take-off and landing, affecting both of their dual redundant GPS receivers. This was the most well known example of Russian EW before 2022 I suppose and obviously it was "practice" in preparation for the invasion in February. Below is the quote from the first report that mentioned this at the OSCE website.
Spot Report 6/2021: SMM long-range UAV unable to take off due to dual GPS signal interference
"On the evening of 6 April, an SMM long-range unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was unable to take off from its base in government-controlled Stepanivka (54km north of Donetsk) to conduct regular monitoring of areas on both sides of the contact line, due to dual GPS signal interference assessed as caused by jamming. This is the first time such interference has prevented a take-off since the Mission launched long-range UAV operations in October 2014."
haha burrrn.
I’m not surprised unfortunately, given the heavy saturation of jamming platforms the Russians now have on/near the front line, with a focus on GPS and the UHF/SHF radio links used to both control the UAV/drone from the ground station and for the drone the transmit video and other information back to the control station.
A concise, informative and objective overview of Airborne EW in this war. EW remains a fascinating yet unsexy topic. It fails and succeeds as silently as possible, cause anything else would be a failure in their MO.
How is it concise and objective, you are only listening to the West's version of events. We all know that the US saturated Ukraine with both Javelins and Stingers, which played a large part in keeping Russia from gaining air supremacy as well as stopping Russia from a tank Blitzkrieg. The SAMS were no big deal, they could be jammed, Stingers and Javelins can't.
Russia made an incredible work in EW warfare both in terms of tech but also in terms of mass but this was done by the ground forces i do not think that vks has ew assets.
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Russian Air Forces have EW capabilities. For example Hibiny anti rocket system placed at the edges of Su fighter jets.
Idk about “failed to destroy Ukrainian airforce” Ukraine’s airforce now consists of literally a handful frogfoots and nato donated helicopters. They definitely succeeded in destroying Ukraines ability to conduct air operations.
"Houston, we've HAD a problem". My inner geek couldn't contain himself 😄
Maybe I just haven't been paying attention but I think your editing skills are improving.
Anyway, informative video as always.
Another thing is not all communications have to be encrypted.
A squad level radio typically doesn't need to be encrypted because typically the information quickly becomes outdated.
Good work Chris, been enjoying your output for a few years now.
One weapon I remember being touted as the latest wunderwaffe was the switchblade drone , then later no mention of it, were they suppressed by EW? or Im wrong and Ukraine are using them with success?
My understanding is that they're being used, and effectively so, but obviously no weapon alone is going to win the war.
The only people that i ever see use the word “wunderwaffe” are vatniks though
They were given a small quantity
I think what happened is that Ukrainians learned from experience that smaller, cheaper commercial and domestically produced drones were having the same effects as Switchblade, so they opted not to obtain any more.
other drones are cheaper and more numerous and easily made/sourced. Switchblades come ONLY from the US via aid packages.
Any info on cost involved in air defence systems? Is bigger budget playing a crusial role or planning is more important?
Russian army is very well equipped N trained. Now they have 2 years of extreme combat experience. Russia is not to be fucked with. NATO beware
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Danke!
Danke!
Brilliant. Exactly what I have been wondering about. Great vid Chris.
Great stuff - would be interesting how EW is counteracted/combated/destroyed in the context of this war.
HARM
@@jj4791 yawn ..
Many air launched missiles have a HOJ (home on jam) function. My guess is this is the primary method of dealing with the traditional jammers that emit an overwhelming signal against enemy radar. There are however newer more sneaky methods of jamming, no idea how those are dealt with.
No one can beat Russia in EW, not even the USA can mess with Russia in that regards
@@fanamlawuli6761 Yawn ... another pimple face.
This is Russia vs NATO.
Chris, is that you at 3:42 in the Frogfoot? 😮🤔
I wonder, is it possible to make a small microwave emitter, say the cavity magnetron from a microwave oven, appear like a military radar to a HARM?
Though I suspect better minds than mine have already pondered and rejected this idea.
there has been reports HARM missiles hitting civilian radio transmitters that were too close to the target
Modern anti-radiation missile guidance systems look for numerous characteristics specific to a given target. Basic radar technology involves a radar sending out (transmitting) a radio-frequency pulse and then switching to receive mode to listen for the return of that pulse.
The following characteristics are unique:
The rate of how often each pulse is transmitted (the PRF)
The *duration* of each pulse (usually measured in microseconds)
The Radio Frequency of the actual transmitted signals.
Additional characteristics: This includes does the radar alter its frequency during operation? Does each individual radar pulse change frequency as it’s transmitted? Does the radar use the FM-CW function? Is frequency hopping (*very* rapid changes in frequency, usually in the order of 100 times a second to thousands of times per second) in use?
Receivers in anti-radar missiles are programmed with this data for various specific radar systems.
A microwave oven, on the other hand, is a continuous noisy transmission on a given piece of spectrum - often the 2.4 GHz band - 2400 MHz - 2500 MHz [2.400 GHz - 2.500 GHz] with the center frequency 2.45 GHz usually, the 2.4 GHz spectrum is very congested and interference is a given. It shared with WiFi, Bluetooth, wireless links for CCTV video, cordless phones, baby monitors, wireless mics, remote control (RC) systems - yes, drone control systems use it as well). This spectrum is used because it is license-free (as long as transmitter power output requirements are followed). Microwave ovens are considered “ISM” [Industrial, Scientific and Medical] devices. In other words, they use radio frequencies, but *not* for communicating with people/things remotely/wirelessly. See 47 CFR 18. The ISM frequency bands are often co-allocated with low power no license required systems like WiFi, Bluetooth, and so on. Microwave ovens usually do a good job of keeping all their RF energy inside the microwave oven itself, but there are many other ISM devices that actually transmit radio-frequency signals out into “the wild” where they cause interference to other systems on the same frequency or frequency spectrum like any other radio signal would. Because of this, most short range radio frequency systems that share spectrum with ISM devices basically are at the mercy of ISM.
Yep, WiFi uses the 5 GHz band and 5.8 GHz band (5725 MHz - 5875 MHz) too (mostly because of the absurd amount of interference on 2.4 GHz) and other frequency bands for special applications. Cordless phones are now mostly on 900 MHz (in the USA) and the DECT system (DECT 6.0) which operates around 1.7 GHz. Same reason, too much interference.
Long story short, modern radar systems and modern systems designed to defeat modern radar systems are designed with extensive digital signal processing (DSP) capability to filter out non-pertinent signals, interference, intentional jamming and noise (or “clutter” if you’re using the specific to radar term). That, and most radars don’t use the same 2.4 GHz frequency spectrum that microwave ovens do.
While it is true that many radar systems use microwave frequencies, “microwave” is just another way of saying “anything above 2 GHz (2000 MHz) or so.” Some radar systems operate on lower frequencies (especially early-warning radar systems, some of which operate down in the VHF spectrum around 175-200 MHz) and over the horizon radar systems operate on frequencies *below* 30 or 40 MHz. Remember that the spectrum allocated to the FM broadcast radio band is 88-108 MHz.
Rule of thumb:
lower frequency = longer range
lower frequency = larger antenna required
lower frequency = poorer target resolution
higher frequency gives better target resolution and it is much easier to focus the radar beam like a pencil beam when higher frequencies are used.
@@R4002 Many thanks. I thought modern systems would be far too sophisticated for anything like a simple decoy, but it's interesting to see a summary of how sophisticated they are.
Your idea is not without merit. Ideas similar to what you’re talking about was used (with success) during WWII. See “Battle of The Beams”.
@@R4002 I wouldn't bet on humble microwave, but SiC and GaN high power transistors are really bad motherf**kers. I would like to see land "drones" with ability to fool antiradiation missiles. Any ability to be used as "helper" radar when operating as a pack - even better.
Sadly for some countries, China imposed ban on gallium exports, but semiconductor grade SiC can be made out of sand and coal (almost).
What is the aircraft at 6:04? Mig-27? Su-24?
Tough question.. I can only guess.n
Look to upper left, there is a bar in the canopy glass, to divide the cockpit into 2, the video is taken from left seat. This arrangement is side by side pilot seats and the Su34 Fullback nicknamed Platypus fits this description.
Another the clue is throughout the video, Su 34 appears a lot..
That my guess... To figure out a plane from inside the cockpit😅😅😅😅
SU24
The MiG-27 was retired in the 1990s.
The shadow the aircraft casts on the ground seen on 06:03-06:04 looks like the one the Su-24 may cast.
As usual, very nice Job!!!
Awacs hinders alot of any direct aerial bombardments.further escalations god forbid would target awacs and satelites to facilitate aerial access
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
You think military radios are much more jam resistant than civilian radios? Heh!
What is that background music? its awesome!
I thought this was going to be an honest unbaised review. I was disappointed.
I saw on another video that there were initial plans, or ideas, for a "wild weasel" version of the F-15E. Maybe it will get updated and made.
@@eozeL68 this is speculation but when it comes to the Weasel missions I don't see what the F-15 has over the F-16. Payload shouldn't be a huge concern when rifling off maybe 2-3 HAARMs max. The more manuverable & smaller airframe (which I think has a smaller RCS) is nice to have when dodging missiles too.
F-15 is obviously the better fighter
@@gepsetAnd an F-16 being cheaper helps a lot too, for a role in which you're being shot at
Waaaaaaaaaaaaay too little waaaaaaaaaaaay too late.
Prob not the only addition I think it could add to that mission is bring a ungodly amount of HARMs
Okay, I know I'm totally missing the point here, but did anyone else notice the Idles - Model Village record on his shelf?
quality as always. 42 comments in 13,000 views... Really?
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42 felt then needed to comment. the other 12, 958 checked out half way through the video. 🤣🤣
What's for sure about Russian EW right now is that all over the battlefield, GPS signals don't work, or work but very eerily.
Hence why the US gave JDAMs to Ukraine, but a version without the GPS module, since it's rendered useless
Glonass
@@EssentukiTlt Glonass is what the Russians are using. The US can't use Glonass for military purpose. It may be able to scramble the signals but i didn't read snything about that happening on the battlefield
The GPS jamming is only effective out to about 10km or so, and even then, the INS modules in all GMLRS and JDAMs is more than capable of guiding the round close enough to the target to take it out - See constant attacks on Crimea using GPS guided Storm Shadows with INS backup that hit their targets with near perfect accuracy. JDAMs of every variant, whether they are the normal ones or the extended range or laser guided variants, already have GPS chips installed. Taking them out of the ones we send would not only probably cost more since that is additional man hours, it probably isn’t even possible since the GPS chip and accompanying electronics are likely already soldered into place and required for the JDAM to even work
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What constant attacks are you referring to? LOL How many actually succesful hit was achieved by Strom Shadow/ Scalp???
@@danielmlinar4892at least a few, Russia has lost a sub and a Corvette at least. Of course it's pretty much impossible to know of other successful hits because of Russian operational security. Both sides will obscure the hits.
Excellent video. You obviously have a great understanding of EW, especially its main issue; predicting and assessing its effects vice kinetic options. And I say this having been an instructor at the USAF EW School and been a B-1B WSO.
According to reports, Russian aircraft have no electronic warfare capabilities, and if they do, they are negligible
Can reports from western sources be trusted anymore? Ukriane should be winning last l saw but now the stories are changing. You think that story you heard was or is still true at the moment? these people who feed us info do love to change there minds as they have recently in regards to the war.
Personally, whenever they say some thing about russia's military inferiority, l take it the opposite is true.
LoL, without gifts from NATO countries, the Ukrainian Air Force would now consist of a fleet of 20 or 30 gliders and zeppelins.
Without nato "gifts" this war will never ever happend.
@@alexxxXXXrus dang sure hope there's no more Russia bordering countries receiving NATO gifts right. Wait what there's already 2?
@@nekomancer4641 without understanding of historical and political context it is easy to miss the point. Dang… I guess.
@@nekomancer4641thats atleast promises broken by NATO. A declaration of war by the west.
Nothing Ukraine has received has been a gift, as it must all be paid back in full. In particular, the items provided by the United States. Ukraine is retaining it's existence by taking on massive debt to the west.
It is Kremlin mythology to say that NATO ever promised not to expand. It's not recorded anywhere, so it's not diplomacy that nations should ever build expectations on. If such a handshake deal was ever made, Russia was silly to rely on not being broken, as modern diplomacy of the "we promise not to expand" sort has never been done like that, just with a wink and a handshake.
Wars are won in manufacturing plants.
Russia simply could not afford to destroy strongest air defense network entirely in Europe. Losses of RAF were to great in the first few weeks.
Ukraine did prove the effectiveness of the S-### systems. It took over a year before russia could finally wear them down. I expect anyone that attacks any place with similar systems would face the same challenge. In an ironic way, Ukraines ability to deny russia its skies marketed the effectiveness of the S-### systems
The "ineffective", "inefficient", "barbarians" of Russia in the air war?
EW - Slick, but not sexy. We had a couple of 'Jamm' sessions north of the Imjin in Korea.
funny accents and weird glasses are essential for EW videos 🙂
It is just an operation, not a full war effort, and as they says it is a long war not a 2 month or 2 years, they have a futher desinated objective.
Great video!
At the beginning of the invasion, the Russians suffered from extensive “EW fratricide”.
Also, they simply do not have enough tactical radios with ECCM capability for the number of troops and units they fielded.
Now their (the Russians) approach is for secure comms for “battalion and above” echelon.
Below that there is still use of regular old COTS handheld radios (Baofengs, etc.) with some encrypted comms also being used . The issue of sharing encryption keys is still very widespread apparently.
I would love to take a look at a spectrum scope (a SDR waterfall display) sitting 30,000 or so feet above the battlefield.
The Russians continue to use HF for battlefield comms, there’s something to be said for that. Especially if they’re focusing on jamming higher frequencies, not just the usual VHF/UHF tactical bands (25-30 MHz, 30-88 MHz, 136-174 MHz, 380-520 MHz) and the aircraft bands (108-150 MHz and 225-400 MHz).
As we see that Russian planes do not cross the border with Ukraine in fear, it means that EW does not work as you think
We see a bunch of tank-mounted systems jamming FPV drones to no avail
Why is no one talking about the capture of the RU EW Plattform at the beginning of the conflict?
Did it had no impact on EW-Scenario?
The Russians have more specialized EW platforms than a centipede has legs. Capturing one of them makes for a minor inconvenience at most. Not to mention the fact that they continuously develop and deploy newer iterations of existing platforms or outright new designs non-stop.
Russia disabled it, destroyed most important kits and left.
Tech isnt stagnat, what was capturered is likely nolonger relevant. remember at one point himars were nuking russians, then next we hear, russians are now countering them.
Its a game of chess, tech is evolving as the threates emerge, what was taken is likely now outdated. And to be honest, l expect the US already knew what those systems are coz the US has intelligence agencies.
buy new microphone please
When Iran is going to Master this EW as it has master unmanned aircraft and missiles weapons.
Biased analysis. Its almost a pin pull of some trash digital magazines
Title correction: Russia vs mini-NATO
Точнее Россия с прокси авангардом НАТО
So who won the 1st, 2nd and 3rd American-Soviet Wars?
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3 american-soviet wars?@@chaosXP3RT
@@viktor7977 Yeah they were fought in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan. All the weapons used were manufactured in the Soviet Union or the USA so that means there were 3 American-Soviet Wars. Just like this is Russia vs mini-NATO
although it felt a bit biased towards western claims and didnt support claims against Russian systems, it was an interesting and informative presentation.
Russia had made quite a few advances around the time this came out, which were not covered.
All good, apart of one thing, Russia didnt invade in 2014.😊
We all know how come Ukraine withstand the invasion , basically Ukraine after 2014 become a NATO proxy to fight Russia , they got 8 year to prepare for multiple scenarios and had many informations directly from the NATO immense real time intell , something that gives so much advantages to the defenders to regroup and make strong defence in key points , this is the truth no MSN dear to say, even US would have had issues if Iraq was helped by China, Iran and Russia
Losing credibility is to start a video with wring information " first invation at 2014.... might from west ahh i see juat a small detail"
The guest seems interesting. Tell him to hold his microphone at one distance from his mouth. Software tries to compensate for decibel fluctuation, rendering the man interviewing from the computer remotely, nearly unintelligible.
Strategically Russians can blow up several own satellites and create debris to render all satellites not operational. Since Russia is regional land based power, it will suffer way less than NATO, for which downed satellite network would be catastrophic.
Master class ….
EW is an area where Russians are better than USA. In fact till a few years back USA did not have frequency hopping in its tactical radios.
However the French were good with EW especially for their AIr Force and Germans for Ground and Naval operations
EW and Targeting of satellites is crucial in tomorrow’s war especially against the hypersonic cruise missiles which can only be tracked using satellite.
The real threat is Sino Russian collaboration which can bring RF expertise of Russians in partnership with Chip and computational power that China can bring plus money.
If USA Europe Japan and India do not come together Russias and Chinese will win …
Russia has the best EWs in the world. Period.
Anyone saying Ukraine is better at EW than Russia is clearly delusional and their opinion is automatically wrong
I thought you and Bernard were AFU fanboys. Wonder what's happening to the Ukrainian Air Force? And could EW be causing UK cruise missiles to go astray? Haven't heard of a major strike by them lately.
UAF has very few remaining planes that can launch Storm Shadow assuming they have remaining stocks of SS (there were reports that Russia destroyed of them in warehouse). If you launch one or two at a time they will generally be shot down, even though they are relatively stealthy.
that 1/3rd rule is utter nonsense. My unit deployed to Iraq years ago at 2/3 strength to begin with. We easily operated with 1/3 short of manpower and resources. And we jammed the enemy 100%, and they were still able to fight.
I think it has to do with relying on NATO being well coordinated and relying on comms to operate effectively.
Russia does not operate effectively even with comms, and so losing comms has no noticeable affect on Russian combat effectiveness.
Ditto for Iraq/Afghan conflict, where their comms were burner phones on sketchy networks.
it is a russian hopium rule so overall i`ll take it as utter nonsense, just because of that fact alone.
@@jj4791 "I think it has to do with relying on NATO being well coordinated and relying on comms to operate effectively. "
shows how little you know. I was part fo NATO, fought as a member of NATO forces. The US military THRIVES in chaos. Most of our missions we had no radio contact at all, we had no support nor backup at all. We made crap up on the fly.
The US military is excellent BECAUSE we're so good in chaos and when we don't have comms, etc. Jam us all you like, we're still going to kill you (who ever our enemy is at the moment).
US uses a bottom up structure, Russia and most other militaries use a top-down system. Without comms and coordination they are paralyzed. In the US we actually fight BETTER when cut off from higher command.
@@SoloRenegade please, what rubbish! Y'all got utterly beaten in Afghanistan, total failure, no one is scared of the USA anymore, no one, y'all stay long enough in foreign to eventually lose
@@jj4791 copium at it's highest
Then why didn't everything Nato gave to Ukraine didn't succeed on the bartellfied??
You guy's only fight against goathatders with Ak 47 and sandals
So with all this Russian inability. It's amazing that the Ukrainians have begun drafting women since all the men are dying
This video is a product of NATO lying machine.
+15 cents
Better than prisoners! That's just stupid.
Sure, Russia was so ineffective in destroying the coup regimes army, that NATO had to send in the full BIP of the country in new military equipment just for the fun of it...
If russia is struggling with a minor nation then I doubt they could even think about beating NATO at full strength.
@@streetfighter2471 A minor natio that is one of the most well equiped and financed army within the NATO aligned countries
@@ser43_OLDC the Ukrainians are fighting bravely against an army of thieves and rapists with NATO’s outdated surplus.
@@streetfighter2471 Make no mistake about Russia. You mistake kindness for weakness. Russia is acting carefully only because it is Ukraine. With a real opponent, the fight was less humane. Communication satellites would have already been gone in the first hour of the conflict.
@@chectorr7895 LOL. What are they gonna do? Send men at the satellite until it gives up? Have one of their news outlets say they destroyed satellites and then hope that people believe them?
That's all gd to hear but why are they losing so bad😢
One third plus one third does not equal the whole.
Your voice has this hatred tone towards Russia all the time, wonder why?
The westoids believe they are racially superior thats why
the f 3 ads in 10mins vdieo worse video ever
Video is biased.
The fact that Russia has to expose its ew capabilities in a conflict like this-to this extent-says so much.
We're still stuck on "Haha Russia can't beat Ukraine" stuff?
At this point it should be abundantly clear this is a high intensity large scale proxy war between Russia and NATO. Look at any Ukraine footage. Spot every single piece of Western kit you can see.
Now imagine None of that was there. Where would Ukraine be? (Having lost last year in May/June)
Says what you know the us could never fight a war like what russia is fighting they couldn't even fight the taliban than are lightly armed, ukraine have tanks, missiles, air defense, the taliban didn't have that, people are so stupid you thing russia is only fighting ukraine I have seen many videos of dead American soldiers in ukraine
says that it isn't beating of two and half Mali-ans who ran half naked, armed with proven Sahara stick?
a faithful translation into American ....
Electronic warfare Russia is ahead in any other countries❤
How is Ukraine's Sopwith Camel fleet standing up against the Migs? 😂
By "Ukraine Vs Russia," you actually mean: NATO Vs Russia.
This is a war by proxy, after all. ❤
If nato was actually involved, russia would have been destroyed a year ago
Russia signed that other countries would help defend Ukraine if it was invaded. Pretending this did not happen is silly
Every war these days has other countries backing one side or the other without getting directly involved. By that metric, would you agree that every war in the last century has been a "proxy war"?
Yep. Funny how these videos keep acting Ukraine is this all by itself without any help.
@@gont183 Take everything from NATO out, and the coup regime couldn't even pay the breakfast of its remaining soldiers at this point.
NATO pumped more then the whole GDP of Ukraine into this - and that was BEFORE it utterly ruined the country and millions left forever and those hundredthousands dead.
Re performance of russian EW systems. We have some evidence they can disrupt Ukrainian operations in the effort Ukraine has made to destroy the. The corollary to this is that those efforts have been successful and have been made with the very systems that should be most vulnerable to EW, e.g. GPS guided munitions and remotely operated drones. Additionally Russia's EW effort is unsustainable, they are losing all classes of vehicular systems at faster than replacement rate.
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Yeah the same way they were running out ammunition last year
@@abdirahmanahmadalifarah926 That's why they had to go running to North Korea and look at the problems that's causing.
@@MatthewDoye to run and cry and beg? When america vacuums the world for shells for ukraine, it's normal, when a warring country uses all methods to replenish ammunition, it's shameful. You are not biased at all. It's even funny how a person can think so stupidly.
@@alexbukovsky4621 try writing in English
@@MatthewDoye nah, you got the point perfectly, despite the fact that my writing style is like a migrant's. You just can't answer uncomfortable questions?
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Russia needs to say they’re fighting NATO to explain why they’re struggling against one country that had no capabilities to defend itself a year ago. That way, Russian citizens don’t say “WTF?”.
Well, when over 25 countries provide military support with the most powerful economies backing Ukraine to the end, and them unleashing an economic warfare leaving Russia as the most sanctioned country on Earth, and a diplomatic isolation on Russia by Ukraine backers u can well say they are fighting NATO and be right. The only thing is Ukraine men and women in the front lines and trenches are dying while receiving massive military and financial and diplomatic assistance and economic too,I can even point out to what Zelensky said that if the US does not back it they will surrender to the Russians, what does that tell u? In making a case for Russian propaganda, this argument is applied and it makes Ukraine look like a proxy in a way, though it is defending itself which nullify's the argument. But again If NATO and its western supporters don't stand with Ukraine, doesn't that mean Russia has defeated the Ukraine army and they are now fighting a NATO funded, trained army employing NATO tech on the Russians while also unleashing a barrage of economic sanctions, sabotages, and media propaganda and coverage against them, they have kind of a point they are fighting a NATO army in Ukrainian uniform.
The Ukrainians are not what the US fight in Afghanistan. People who were not trained, largely couldn’t read, and wore flip flops as boots. Oh wait, the Americans decided to give it back in three days! All that military spending, and that’s the outcome????? And the Taliban is back in control? With US equipment? 😂😂😂😂
Russia IS fighting NATO. NATO trained, NATO equipped, NATO doctrine when Ukraine was persuaded to follow it, although they swiftly reverted to other tactics when NATO ideas failed.
Tell me you're a troglodyte without telling me you're a troglodyte. The answer is braindead simple. NATO ISR and NATO logistics. Weapon supplies are chump change compared to the enormous contribution made by this apparatus to the Kiev Klown's circus show.
GMLRS, JDAM, ATACMS, Storm Shadow / SCALP-EG and every other single type of GNSS guided weapon would be utterly useless without NATO ISR providing pinpoint accurate data with minimal delay. The amount of Western satellite overflights over Banderistan and Russia is downright insane.
More than that, there's NATO ELINT aircraft flying shorties right outside Ukrainian and Russian airspace (even violating Russian airspace sporadically), gathering data on the positions and activity status of Russian IADS radars. Without that information, the success rate of missile strikes deep inside Russian territory would be even more pathetic than it is now, since they wouldn't be able to route the missiles around the coverage zones of Russian radars and through temporal gaps owing to radars shutting down for the extension of their service life.
The highly acclaimed water planing trashcans that the Ukrainians have been spamming against the Black Sea Fleet with laughable success rates, would be 100% useless without command linik relaying from NATO satellites (like Starlink) and certain aerial platforms.
All assasinations carried out against high profile Russian military figures were made possible by Western intelligence and the CIA even boasted about that at some point.
TLDR: Banderistan is enjoying the exact same intelligence capabilities that NATO would in a war with Russia, without which they'd be done a year ago.
This insane, all-in intelligence support they enjoy is also part of the reason I firmly believe that NATO themselves would be garbage in a direct conflict with Russia, since the Ukrainians have 100x the warrior spirit that the average Western lardass "veteran" binging KFC at his FOB in Iraq could muster in their best form. Ukrainian formations regularly keep fighting even after suffering 70% casualties while NATO puts a hard limit at 10%.
@@birtybonkers8918 I remember it's was the WsJ quote from a Ukraine office 😂 he said they didn't train Us this kind of drone war fare .. remember With out ISR( which the drones do) you're blind
Russias electronic warfare is on point. Russias SAM missiles shoot their own jets out of the sky.
Ukraine would beg to differ, while dragging themselves to total surrender, which is inevitable
😂 😂 😂 Well I called it copium effect... 😂 😂 😂.. Last time I checked every nato or us weapons works for a month or two then disappear... Its called ew stupid...
@@aamerjamalyall jamming yourselves and have all this capabilities, yet can't take the Donbass. Pathetic! Imagine losing over 10 ships to a country that doesn't have a Navy and barely any Air Force. What a shame! I thought russia had it like that, but hey use that cold war T-52 tanks 😂😂
Bla, bla, bla.
Statist0815 *Translates to "Vote for Kim Jung Un"*
I’ve heard that German nazies stil angry since their defeat 😅
Russian EW? Non existent in the defensive realm. Little or no defensive suite. Ukrainian Manpads are downing jets and helis en mass. It is just embarassing
You need to survive attacks first unless you can jam so well that the adversary cannot hit you. Jam manpads? no way. Flares ? Russians seem to lack it
Siad by Cnn and bbc??
Right well most of the people aren't stupid enough to suck MSM propaganda
There is literally dozens of footage Vitebsk 25 EW system easily deflecting MANPADS on Kamov 52s basically that's why they could take out most NATO vehicles effortlessly educate yourself and stop watching CNNXD
slava ukraini!
As a Wagner officer, I understand this very clearly
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