Good demo for those of us who wanter to know how well Kioti tractors start in the cold (assuming good mechanical condition). This is our world in the far north (WI, MN, MI, etc.). Seeing is believing.
Thanks Mike. I live in Quebec and have a 2020 CK4010 (manual transmission). The past few weeks, we have had many cold days (-8F and colder). Just like you showed, my tractor did start with no problems whatsoever. Just coming on 100 hours and could not be more satisfied with the performance of this machine. The only thing I would recommend owners check is not only coolant/anti-freeze level but that it provides sufficient cold weather protection. I checked mine when we started getting very cold weather and found it to be borderline so beefed it up some by replacing some of the coolant with concentrate and then running the engine to mix thoroughly. Cheers
I purchased a ck2610se with factory cab for that reason not to have to freeze my but. At first when i was starting it in the cold wheater. even with the glow plug it would hesitate and smoke. Here in New Brunswick canada we get 4 months of cold and snow and after 60 years of it , it gets old quick. I enjoy youre videos .
I own a CK2610 and I'm in Colorado. I switched all the fluids to synthetic at the first maintenance and add the white Power Service diesel treatment to the fuel year around as it also cleans injectors. Never a problem and I use mine to plow snow. Even if you just move the tractor a short distance let it run so the battery charges as cycling the glow plugs uses lots of juice.
Thanks Mike. I live in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada. We are in a deep freeze righ tnow. I store my CK 4010 in my insulated shop with the heat on. I have a cab on it and I would never buy another one with out it. Never short of heat. Giving these tractors some TLC goes a long way in longevity. Great for loader work, manure spreaders, or snow blowers.
my CK2610 started (eventually) in -43F wind chill a few nights ago. Took several tries with the glow plugs (4-5) and as many attempts to start. But it finally did, and then I moved it into the heated garage ;-) Poor baby, she wasn't happy about that, but the next day she was just fine! I love my CK2610
Thanks for the info. I live in Vermont and am well aware of the cold weather, but always appreciate more information on these tractors. I own a ck3510se and appreciate it very much.
I love my CK2510 here in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. I store my tractor in my unheated (for now) shop and when it gets cold I plug in the block heater (that it came with) for an hour or so and it smokes way less and it's warm enough that the glow plug light doesn't come on. When new the tractor would smoke a lot when using the brush hog or running at high RPM but now at 250 hours it doesn't smoke nearly as much. I'm very happy with my little work horse of a tractor!
Just an FYI, my seat safety switch freezes in weather such as this. (DK4210) If you bounce up and down a few times it should free it up. Also I use a fuel additive and never let it get below half during winter in Michigan.
thanks Mike. Any tips on how to get at the top cables for the loader joystick on a CK30. I am scrambling to get it fixed, up here in Northern British Columbia with cold temps and feet, not inches of snow.
It was almost 0 the other day and I cycled my glow plugs 2x and my ck2610 started right up and had been sitting for few weeks. Got it from you guys and love it
Good information, it was -1 where I am on the day you filmed this. The fuel in my tractor did not gel but the fuel in my truck did. I'm going to change the fuel filters tomorrow and pray that nothing is damaged.
I live in Northern Maine where it's like what you got there 4or5 months ! I have the compact Kioti 22hp tractor with 51inch blower soft cab. I plug my in so I don't have to use glow plug plus my heater is ready to go too! I live here 54 years but understand what your saying as I get older. Plus my tractor is in cold storage . layer up helps ! Have. Great Day and enjoy your videos!🙂;]
Thanks for that tip (I could not find any reference to this simple feature on a CK2620) on the clutch pedal spring clip for cold nights and separation of clutch plate and trans plate. - N Idaho -
Had my RX66PSC two winters now here in central NewEngland, I had to leave it outside this year most of the time but she always starts right up at the normal below zero temps we get at 1300 ft altitude where we live. It has never run rough or had an issue starting or operating the hydraulics for that matter, I run a Woodmax SB84 snowblower this year and it works great and is a big timesaver for doing my mile long driveway. My wife really loves the cab, which thankfully makes me look like a champ.
@@LSE_TRACTOR They have a nice deal right now where they ship it next day freight and give you an upgrade on the pto shaft for free. This was the best value for money I could find, wish I had bought one last winter;)
🇨🇦We have a CK3510, living in Alberta. We can see -40, some internet folks wonder why we run 5W30 Synthetic Oil. This tractor starts amazingly well in the cold.
My kioti CS220 needs 6 cycles of glow plug and even then it chugs black smoke for few minutes while shaking your teeth out. It's a 2021 with 80 hours on it and has done it since new even at above zero
One thing I do is use Rotella T6, 5w-40w in the crankcase. Its SYNTHETIC oil meant for diesels. The thinner 5w, being also synthetic, flows much easier in winter and the 40w part is the recommended viscosity for winter. My Kioti dealer recommended this as an excellent choice after the initial break-in oil change.
You would learn to love this weather!!!! Our CK4010 & K9 always start right up. K9 does like to be plugged in when single digits hit. Only thing I would add, is for us frequency of use makes a difference how they start up too.
I've found that in the coldest of cold temps, my CK2610 starts without the rough stumbling if I turn the key backwards and hold it for the glow plugs, before turning it forward and holding it (so two whole glowplug timeouts) before starting. Last time I did a single cycle at 32 degrees, it did the same rough start you showed, but at 15 degrees with the second cycle, it started perfectly smooth. I reserve it for only the coldest of temps, at freezing or below - excess use of the glowplugs will wear them out.
i live in Okla and i have 2003 DK55. i couldn't get my tractor started the other day when it was 0 degrees. i would cycle the glow plugs a couple of times and try to start it and ended up running the battery down. I couldn't find if it had a block heater or not, so i got my space heater out and had it blowing on an angle between the front tire and loader arm for about 30 min. while i also charged the battery. After a could of cranks the engine finally cranked over and started, so think i had a fuel problem. put diesel additive in while haying my now balling cows. Had to start it again 2 nights later at 7 degrees and it fired right up. I'M READY FOR SPRING.
Soon to be a new owner of a CX 2510 HST. Enjoy your channel very much. Off the subject, but I was wondering where you got the model tractors on the shelf in your office? Would love to have one of the CX 2510!
I’ve got a new DK5310se that does not start this well. At this temp in a unheated shed with the block heater plugged in for 6h it’s worse than all the tractors in this vid. At -13F it took several glow plug cycles and starting attempts and barely started when plugged in.
Maybe you should've showed the ones with the cabs on them. Lmao. I keep using all these videos as to why we need a tractor with a cab... thank you for helping in proving my point. Lol
I Chucklingg here, I think it was 16 days below 0F and 49F below for the coldest night. Right now its -1 F and going togrt to +15. My CK3510 is in the shop, Has been staying about 18 to 20 above in there. Had to use the tractor twice and it did start up, after the glow plug and warmed up, But even after 30 + minutes, it had not moved the needl off the cold. What to do?? Recommendations not including moving. LOL (northern MN) ps: where on the tractor do you mount the heater, Aluminum pan or block?
How is Charlie? Haven't seen him at the new store. I had my Bolens / Isicki under a tarp and in sub zero temps I used a torpedo heater to thin the oil and fluids. Thanks and keep warm. 8 deg isn't that cold even in Pittsburgh.
An HST linked pedal is absolutely available on a CK2610 HST. Option code CKA131. Price is $132.00, obviously not including installation, tax, or shipping. If you want one, email Thomas@LSEtractor.com
I own a 2020 2610 If you had that deep freeze for a week it wouldn't start because the sensor in the seat get so cold it does function in you put heat to it
Larry, Thanks so much for the important information on cold starts. Scraper blade demo gonna be next?? Lol. Does one key fit all Kioti tractors?? Sure enjoy my ck3510hst. Neighbors drool who is gonna be lucky person to drive tractor when I am out of town!!
Larry ward. 2610 stars in these conditions easily. I use tractor every day in this weather. Turn key backwards cycle glowplug till symbol goes out. And let it run at least 15 minutes to cycle fluids. And then work with it.
@@hydraulicshop69 I understand that the loader needs to be cycled with out a load but easier on a hydrostatic transmission unless you had a constant flow and run a loop on the rear scv to circulate the fluid
@@tyerock7851 it's not hard on a hydrostatic to be in thick oil just harder to turn it thicker is better actually. Only reason to warm hydros is for faster movement. Sorry didn't mean it in a bad way.
I turned on my engine block heater for 2 hours before I start mine, After it starts I let it idle for 15-30 minutes before I use it. You guys don't know what extreme weather is.
i think that all pricey farm tractors should offer a general purpose shelter option to give the equipment long life... so many tractors just rust away before their time..:/ thanks...:)
I would like a price for a 2610se hst, front end loader with a 66” bucket, 3rd function hydraulic ( I have a grapple ), rim guard, set of forks, R4 tires, price of delivery to Grass Lake, mi., please send it to my email address ( bgreenway60@gmail.com ), Thank You in advance for your time.
LOL- While I would agree it would be preferable to cover or store a tractor inside. But tractors have been left outside since the first one was built. I have never heard of any tractors that have melted away in the snow.
Common rail is to complicated for small tractors. I really wish kiote wud use the kukje engines because they don’t use common rail on most of their diesels under 50 horse. I think your new line of tym has kukje engines.
@@LSE_TRACTOR I can’t argue with that! Having said that the tym with Mechanical injection and the kukje engine is as good as they come, I’d be willing to bet you never have problems with the kukje diesel. It’s not as smooth or efficient as common rail engines, but it’s proven technology it’s been around for 100 years.
Nashville and extreme could are not two things that exist in the same time and place. Extreme cold from my perspective is 10 - 15 below. Alaskans will say 20 or more below
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Good demo for those of us who wanter to know how well Kioti tractors start in the cold (assuming good mechanical condition). This is our world in the far north (WI, MN, MI, etc.). Seeing is believing.
Thanks Mike. I live in Quebec and have a 2020 CK4010 (manual transmission). The past few weeks, we have had many cold days (-8F and colder). Just like you showed, my tractor did start with no problems whatsoever. Just coming on 100 hours and could not be more satisfied with the performance of this machine. The only thing I would recommend owners check is not only coolant/anti-freeze level but that it provides sufficient cold weather protection. I checked mine when we started getting very cold weather and found it to be borderline so beefed it up some by replacing some of the coolant with concentrate and then running the engine to mix thoroughly. Cheers
Excellent advice! Merci’
I purchased a ck2610se with factory cab for that reason not to have to freeze my but. At first when i was starting it in the cold wheater. even with the glow plug it would hesitate and smoke. Here in New Brunswick canada we get 4 months of cold and snow and after 60 years of it , it gets old quick. I enjoy youre videos .
I own a CK2610 and I'm in Colorado. I switched all the fluids to synthetic at the first maintenance and add the white Power Service diesel treatment to the fuel year around as it also cleans injectors. Never a problem and I use mine to plow snow. Even if you just move the tractor a short distance let it run so the battery charges as cycling the glow plugs uses lots of juice.
Thanks Mike. I live in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada. We are in a deep freeze righ tnow. I store my CK 4010 in my insulated shop with the heat on. I have a cab on it and I would never buy another one with out it. Never short of heat. Giving these tractors some TLC goes a long way in longevity. Great for loader work, manure spreaders, or snow blowers.
my CK2610 started (eventually) in -43F wind chill a few nights ago. Took several tries with the glow plugs (4-5) and as many attempts to start. But it finally did, and then I moved it into the heated garage ;-) Poor baby, she wasn't happy about that, but the next day she was just fine! I love my CK2610
Picking up my CK3510Se next week from you. Mother Nature is not gonna stop me from picking her up.
Thank you Shy!
Nice video. Why do kioti's have so much metal beating metal noise?
People where I live believe that stuff falling from the sky is beautiful. We embrace our climate.
Thanks for the info. I live in Vermont and am well aware of the cold weather, but always appreciate more information on these tractors. I own a ck3510se and appreciate it very much.
I love my CK2510 here in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. I store my tractor in my unheated (for now) shop and when it gets cold I plug in the block heater (that it came with) for an hour or so and it smokes way less and it's warm enough that the glow plug light doesn't come on. When new the tractor would smoke a lot when using the brush hog or running at high RPM but now at 250 hours it doesn't smoke nearly as much. I'm very happy with my little work horse of a tractor!
Just an FYI, my seat safety switch freezes in weather such as this. (DK4210) If you bounce up and down a few times it should free it up. Also I use a fuel additive and never let it get below half during winter in Michigan.
Power Service and Howes are 2 good antigel additives I run 8 fl oz to 7 gal of diesel. Just N of Lansing Michigan
thanks Mike. Any tips on how to get at the top cables for the loader joystick on a CK30. I am scrambling to get it fixed, up here in Northern British Columbia with cold temps and feet, not inches of snow.
Thank you. I own a 2610 and am always happy to learn more about it.
It was almost 0 the other day and I cycled my glow plugs 2x and my ck2610 started right up and had been sitting for few weeks. Got it from you guys and love it
Thank you Ryan! It helps folks know that I’m not spreading BS
great video great info. stay safe get warm. and God bless from a PA Yankee
Days like this reminds me why I got a cab on mine
Good information, it was -1 where I am on the day you filmed this. The fuel in my tractor did not gel but the fuel in my truck did. I'm going to change the fuel filters tomorrow and pray that nothing is damaged.
I live in Northern Maine where it's like what you got there 4or5 months ! I have the compact Kioti 22hp tractor with 51inch blower soft cab. I plug my in so I don't have to use glow plug plus my heater is ready to go too! I live here 54 years but understand what your saying as I get older. Plus my tractor is in cold storage . layer up helps ! Have. Great Day and enjoy your videos!🙂;]
Thanks for that tip (I could not find any reference to this simple feature on a CK2620) on the clutch pedal spring clip for cold nights and separation of clutch plate and trans plate. - N Idaho -
Had my RX66PSC two winters now here in central NewEngland, I had to leave it outside this year most of the time but she always starts right up at the normal below zero temps we get at 1300 ft altitude where we live. It has never run rough or had an issue starting or operating the hydraulics for that matter, I run a Woodmax SB84 snowblower this year and it works great and is a big timesaver for doing my mile long driveway. My wife really loves the cab, which thankfully makes me look like a champ.
Great recommendation! Thanks Marco
@@LSE_TRACTOR They have a nice deal right now where they ship it next day freight and give you an upgrade on the pto shaft for free. This was the best value for money I could find, wish I had bought one last winter;)
Great sales opportunity for a cab machine!
🇨🇦We have a CK3510, living in Alberta. We can see -40, some internet folks wonder why we run 5W30 Synthetic Oil. This tractor starts amazingly well in the cold.
Thanks Mike still love my CK and Zero turn you sold me. I need to get down to see the new shop that is now 10 min from the house. Awesome!
The cold starts are very impressive! Kioti tractors are awesome! Thanks again for another great video!
Cold start was impressive.
Ouch, eight degrees sound very cold for Tennessee. Of course that's bathing shorts weather around here, but it all depends on what you're used to.
Good morning, we are at western Tennessee. We have kioti kl 6010
And today is the second time that wants to start.
My kioti CS220 needs 6 cycles of glow plug and even then it chugs black smoke for few minutes while shaking your teeth out. It's a 2021 with 80 hours on it and has done it since new even at above zero
One thing I do is use Rotella T6, 5w-40w in the crankcase. Its SYNTHETIC oil meant for diesels. The thinner 5w, being also synthetic, flows much easier in winter and the 40w part is the recommended viscosity for winter. My Kioti dealer recommended this as an excellent choice after the initial break-in oil change.
Your right about that always go lower on the first number if it's cold. W means winter just throwing it out there.
I meant the 40w part was the recommended part for SUMMER. 5w for winter.
@@garymeyer3294 yea your right most people dont understand these numbers but your comment was a good one I know what you meant
Try it at -30 Here in Sask Canada, it gets COLD. Block heater and battery blanket are my tractor's best friends.
Also regular service with good fluid and filters makes it so easy to crank and operate in cold temps
I like your videos !! how would these tractors start in Wisconsin at -20 I'm looking to replace my 1954 t-35 massy its gas. starts every time ..
The ones with CRDI (common rail diesel injection) will start and idle smoothly without heating the glow plugs.
unrelated question, what's the plane model plane to the right of the cabbed kioti on the trailer behind you?
Corsair
You would learn to love this weather!!!! Our CK4010 & K9 always start right up. K9 does like to be plugged in when single digits hit. Only thing I would add, is for us frequency of use makes a difference how they start up too.
I've found that in the coldest of cold temps, my CK2610 starts without the rough stumbling if I turn the key backwards and hold it for the glow plugs, before turning it forward and holding it (so two whole glowplug timeouts) before starting. Last time I did a single cycle at 32 degrees, it did the same rough start you showed, but at 15 degrees with the second cycle, it started perfectly smooth. I reserve it for only the coldest of temps, at freezing or below - excess use of the glowplugs will wear them out.
One suggestion, heated pole barn
Another great and Timely Video !
Always enjoy your videos!
LOL the snow is the best thing that happens around Michigan
Well, when it comes to Michigan, I would put Bob Seger, Ted Nugent, and Kid Rock ahead of snow.
Can you send a link or part number for the "stick on block heater". I live in Canada and have a ck2510
i live in Okla and i have 2003 DK55. i couldn't get my tractor started the other day when it was 0 degrees. i would cycle the glow plugs a couple of times and try to start it and ended up running the battery down. I couldn't find if it had a block heater or not, so i got my space heater out and had it blowing on an angle between the front tire and loader arm for about 30 min. while i also charged the battery. After a could of cranks the engine finally cranked over and started, so think i had a fuel problem. put diesel additive in while haying my now balling cows. Had to start it again 2 nights later at 7 degrees and it fired right up. I'M READY FOR SPRING.
Well done Tom! You are correct regarding fuel. The fuel had gelled.
How far out do you deliver
Soon to be a new owner of a CX 2510 HST. Enjoy your channel very much. Off the subject, but I was wondering where you got the model tractors on the shelf in your office? Would love to have one of the CX 2510!
They were a gift from the head of Daedong, when I visited Korea.
Hey Mike, what about warm up idling, and the emissions system on a 4010, I thought we shouldn’t do any idling?
The tractor should idle for a few minutes, then warm up at half throttle (1600-1800 RPMs) until use.
I’ve got a new DK5310se that does not start this well. At this temp in a unheated shed with the block heater plugged in for 6h it’s worse than all the tractors in this vid. At -13F it took several glow plug cycles and starting attempts and barely started when plugged in.
Calvin, I don’t have any experience with temperatures that low. 8F is as low as I’ve ever seen in middle Tennessee, but I don’t think that is normal.
Could your fuel be icing? All of these tractors had de-icer added to the fuel.
Love the drone footage.
Maybe you should've showed the ones with the cabs on them. Lmao. I keep using all these videos as to why we need a tractor with a cab... thank you for helping in proving my point. Lol
Good day. Interesting and useful video.
May I ask what is the width of the CK3510 with 15-19.5 tires?
Thank you
I believe mine is about 54 inches.
@@scottmoorhouse5664 Thank you.
I Chucklingg here, I think it was 16 days below 0F and 49F below for the coldest night. Right now its -1 F and going togrt to +15. My CK3510 is in the shop, Has been staying about 18 to 20 above in there. Had to use the tractor twice and it did start up, after the glow plug and warmed up, But even after 30 + minutes, it had not moved the needl off the cold. What to do?? Recommendations not including moving. LOL (northern MN)
ps: where on the tractor do you mount the heater, Aluminum pan or block?
Your description of the temperatures are right out of a Stephen King novel.
I stick the pad to the aluminum oil pan.
Wish u had a dealership up here in ny
How is Charlie? Haven't seen him at the new store. I had my Bolens / Isicki under a tarp and in sub zero temps I used a torpedo heater to thin the oil and fluids. Thanks and keep warm. 8 deg isn't that cold even in Pittsburgh.
David, thanks for asking about Charlie. He’s fine, just a bit slower and more sensitive to the cold. At 15 years old, he naps a lot.
I hate the heat as much as you hate the cold.
Clean the seat before you sit down. Good info btw
Did I mention that I hate cold?
Hey boss I just got 21 ck2610 is there a way to add link pedal and how much my dealer just sells I can tell he knows nothing about this machine
An HST linked pedal is absolutely available on a CK2610 HST. Option code CKA131. Price is $132.00, obviously not including installation, tax, or shipping. If you want one, email Thomas@LSEtractor.com
I own a 2020 2610 If you had that deep freeze for a week it wouldn't start because the sensor in the seat get so cold it does function in you put heat to it
Larry,
Thanks so much for the important information on cold starts. Scraper blade demo gonna be next?? Lol. Does one key fit all Kioti tractors?? Sure enjoy my ck3510hst. Neighbors drool who is gonna be lucky person to drive tractor when I am out of town!!
Adam, the key question is a closely guarded secret! Don’t tell anyone but the keys are “quite similar”, lol
Larry ward. 2610 stars in these conditions easily. I use tractor every day in this weather. Turn key backwards cycle glowplug till symbol goes out. And let it run at least 15 minutes to cycle fluids. And then work with it.
I turn the pto on as well to get the hydraulic/ trans fluid moving while idling to warm up
All cylinders need operated to warm up. Oil doesnt flow thru the whole system at idle. Your warming up oil in the tank and pto motor.
@@hydraulicshop69 I understand that the loader needs to be cycled with out a load but easier on a hydrostatic transmission unless you had a constant flow and run a loop on the rear scv to circulate the fluid
@@tyerock7851 it's not hard on a hydrostatic to be in thick oil just harder to turn it thicker is better actually. Only reason to warm hydros is for faster movement. Sorry didn't mean it in a bad way.
@@hydraulicshop69 No worries, all good👍🏻
Get used to the weather. Looks like a nice winter day. At least we, in Wisconsin, are smart enough not to sit on a snow covered seat
What's the best operating rpm for cs2520?
3200. Start it up, let id idle for one minute, and wind it up! It is designed to run fast.
I turned on my engine block heater for 2 hours before I start mine, After it starts I let it idle for 15-30 minutes before I use it. You guys don't know what extreme weather is.
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i think that all pricey farm tractors should offer a general purpose shelter option to give the equipment long life... so many tractors just rust away before their time..:/ thanks...:)
Welcome to our life in canada. this is every tuesday
Lol
Do you ship to Michigan.
Bill, almost on a weekly basis.
Bill, almost on a weekly basis.
I would like a price for a 2610se hst, front end loader with a 66” bucket, 3rd function hydraulic ( I have a grapple ), rim guard, set of forks, R4 tires, price of delivery to Grass Lake, mi., please send it to my email address ( bgreenway60@gmail.com ), Thank You in advance for your time.
Does Kioti offer the fuel filter heater?
Yes they do, I believe built in now, read some where in researching the tractor.
Yes. It is an option
"Extreme Cold" lmao us minnesotans laff at you
I have visited the Mayo in January. Rochester is an incredibly beautiful town, that should be moved to Tennessee.
What was that remark you said ? YANKEE ?
Ha! True
I’d hope once someone buys a tractor they at least cover the machine.
LOL- While I would agree it would be preferable to cover or store a tractor inside. But tractors have been left outside since the first one was built. I have never heard of any tractors that have melted away in the snow.
I’ve emailed you but still haven’t heard back
That's not possible, we are eager to sell. Please check the email address. Mine is Mike@LSEtractor.com
My nearest Kioti dealer has 0 tractors in stock.
I know mine too I have to drive an hour or more to look at them.
Common rail is to complicated for small tractors. I really wish kiote wud use the kukje engines because they don’t use common rail on most of their diesels under 50 horse. I think your new line of tym has kukje engines.
I happen to love CRDI. They start without glow plugs, and they are quiet.
@@LSE_TRACTOR I can’t argue with that! Having said that the tym with Mechanical injection and the kukje engine is as good as they come, I’d be willing to bet you never have problems with the kukje diesel. It’s not as smooth or efficient as common rail engines, but it’s proven technology it’s been around for 100 years.
Nashville and extreme could are not two things that exist in the same time and place.
Extreme cold from my perspective is 10 - 15 below. Alaskans will say 20 or more below
Stop Larry i live in Michigan it not all that bad
It is bad! Dante’s fourth circle of hell
Us Yankee's need to come South and take this stuff back home lol
Comment #80!!
Dude--put your gloves on!! This is not cold BTW.