@@JBehrMusic So far yes! Stats are good on my end. Even updated to the latest Catalina and still no issues. I still plug back in the original hdmi output when rebooting though. Havnt tried chancing it yet with the egpu plugged in during reboot. Very satisfied with how everything is though. :-)
Jeremy Good to hear! Yeah that bug is a bit annoying. How I get around it, is boot up my Mac mini with the eGPU off, wait about 30 seconds, then flick the power switch on my eGPU to ON. And it shows the login screen... To be clear, that’s only upon first booting my system. As you stated, you cannot reboot with the eGPU on. It will just black screen. When I need to reboot, I just shut down instead, and do the process I just explained.
Was about to buy a Mac mini just for music cause it’s small. Is it still no good with an egpu even just for ableton and logic. I knew it wasn’t for anything that needed good graphics. Didn’t want to spend even more on it though
@@MuddySump yes I would say it’s fine by itself. The problem comes in more when trying to record using OBS or making tutorials, or have too many plugins running. Without an eGPU, streaming/recording is almost impossible. Also without an eGPU, you’ll probably have to print to audio more often, or freeze tracks more often.
it's not really clear what the eGPU Exactly does to get the value's u present later, does the eGPU just lower the stress on the internal cpu? and what about a macbook pro which has 2 videocard's allready? i always heard music is purely cpu and nothing else.. but hope it could help even more in the future.
DJ ALVARO The eGPU allows for better memory management, since a GPU would share memory with the CPU, but a dedicated GPU does not. Also, it allows the CPU to breathe more since it takes the graphical duties away. I have a better explanation in my updated video. As far as your MacBook question, if the MacBook has 2 GPU’s, then that should work the same as an eGPU. Since one is dedicated. An eGPU is for systems that do not have a dedicated GPU.
It's just so darn sad that Apple still can't make a computer that does its job properly, at its price point, without charging a limb. It's been discussed for years now, amongst users of Logic Pro, for example, if you produce 'in-the-box' EDM and use plugins for both FX and instruments and do so in the tens if not 100+ tracks, scrolling during playback on something like a 13" MBP with integrated graphics will crash the playback causing overloads (even worse when the plugin's GUI is open, especially Fabfilter's high-res retina enabled plugins)... People then realised that if they plugged their 15" MBP with discrete GPUs into the charger, the problems disappear (as the OS enables the GPU). Naturally, apologists show up and keep mouthing off. But I'm just glad to find a video where a human being empirically proved the obvious. Regardless I feel ripped off. At this point I don't know if I ought to buy another Mac. If I don't, I lose thousands of hours of work in Logic Pro.... but if I do, I have to deal with the dog-shiz level support offered by Apple. Not to mention the anger I still feel from a sarcastic, mocking employee.
Yeah, since an external GPU typically are more powerful in custom PCs. You can watch the part 2 of this series (eGPU) and I mention that. Even some windows laptops have dedicated NVIDIA chips within them that are adequate enough for music production.
Thanks for this test. I'm also thinking of getting an egpu with my 2018, i7 32gb Macmini. My CPU usage seems fine on my larger sessions (25% usage @ 50+ tracks with plugins) but the temperature stays pretty warm, 90-93 C. Did you find the egpu help it run cooler as well? I usually mix at 1024 buffer setting.
Sorry I never saw this comment. I made a part 2 of this video, in which I do show the temperature decrease when using an eGPU. So yes, the eGPU does help the mac mini run cooler by 10 degrees celsius.
![Will an eGPU improve the performance of your music production and OBS? [Part 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Pxbui_JjNfs/mqdefault.jpg)
I have released an updated video with better tests and more information. Check it here: ruclips.net/video/Pxbui_JjNfs/видео.html
Hands down the best egpu + mac mini video on youtube
Appreciate it
Timestamps.
0:25 - What is an eGPU?
1:02 - Forum Research
1:45 - Video Cards
3:15 - eGPU Enclosures
4:07 - Sonnet eGPU Info
4:37 - eGPU Research
5:26 - macOS Catalina Issues
6:42 - DAW Testing (Overview)
8:29 - Chart Results (Overview)
9:04 - Prefer eGPU on macOS
10:17 - ACTUAL RESULTS Scenario 1
11:11 - ACTUAL RESULTS Scenario 2
12:00 - ACTUAL RESULTS Scenario 3
13:12 - Final Thoughts
14:42 - In Conclusion...
noice, i was always curious about eGPU's, not just for music production but for other purposes as well (gaming, etc)
Thanks! just purchased the sonnet 550w and the exact card you got as well! Stoked to use egpu for the first time with mac mini 2020.
Awesome! I'm curious if your results were as beneficial as mine were.
@@JBehrMusic So far yes! Stats are good on my end. Even updated to the latest Catalina and still no issues. I still plug back in the original hdmi output when rebooting though. Havnt tried chancing it yet with the egpu plugged in during reboot. Very satisfied with how everything is though. :-)
Jeremy Good to hear! Yeah that bug is a bit annoying. How I get around it, is boot up my Mac mini with the eGPU off, wait about 30 seconds, then flick the power switch on my eGPU to ON. And it shows the login screen... To be clear, that’s only upon first booting my system. As you stated, you cannot reboot with the eGPU on. It will just black screen. When I need to reboot, I just shut down instead, and do the process I just explained.
Just the info i needed, thank you so much!
Was about to buy a Mac mini just for music cause it’s small. Is it still no good with an egpu even just for ableton and logic. I knew it wasn’t for anything that needed good graphics. Didn’t want to spend even more on it though
Just to clarify, are you asking if it is still good without an eGPU?
@@JBehrMusic yes. Can it run things fine just by itself?
@@MuddySump yes I would say it’s fine by itself. The problem comes in more when trying to record using OBS or making tutorials, or have too many plugins running. Without an eGPU, streaming/recording is almost impossible. Also without an eGPU, you’ll probably have to print to audio more often, or freeze tracks more often.
@@JBehrMusic thanks
it's not really clear what the eGPU Exactly does to get the value's u present later, does the eGPU just lower the stress on the internal cpu? and what about a macbook pro which has 2 videocard's allready? i always heard music is purely cpu and nothing else.. but hope it could help even more in the future.
DJ ALVARO The eGPU allows for better memory management, since a GPU would share memory with the CPU, but a dedicated GPU does not. Also, it allows the CPU to breathe more since it takes the graphical duties away.
I have a better explanation in my updated video. As far as your MacBook question, if the MacBook has 2 GPU’s, then that should work the same as an eGPU. Since one is dedicated. An eGPU is for systems that do not have a dedicated GPU.
It's just so darn sad that Apple still can't make a computer that does its job properly, at its price point, without charging a limb. It's been discussed for years now, amongst users of Logic Pro, for example, if you produce 'in-the-box' EDM and use plugins for both FX and instruments and do so in the tens if not 100+ tracks, scrolling during playback on something like a 13" MBP with integrated graphics will crash the playback causing overloads (even worse when the plugin's GUI is open, especially Fabfilter's high-res retina enabled plugins)... People then realised that if they plugged their 15" MBP with discrete GPUs into the charger, the problems disappear (as the OS enables the GPU). Naturally, apologists show up and keep mouthing off.
But I'm just glad to find a video where a human being empirically proved the obvious. Regardless I feel ripped off. At this point I don't know if I ought to buy another Mac. If I don't, I lose thousands of hours of work in Logic Pro.... but if I do, I have to deal with the dog-shiz level support offered by Apple. Not to mention the anger I still feel from a sarcastic, mocking employee.
Yeah it’s a bit annoying Apple hasn’t fixed this yet. But I still prefer their audio drivers over Windows ASIO
Thanks for this , it was very informative! Do you think similar results can be obtain from a GPU in a PC?
Yeah, since an external GPU typically are more powerful in custom PCs. You can watch the part 2 of this series (eGPU) and I mention that. Even some windows laptops have dedicated NVIDIA chips within them that are adequate enough for music production.
@@JBehrMusic thanks for the reply. I meant an internal GPU, not sure if it's the same as a eGPU performance wise
Thanks for this test. I'm also thinking of getting an egpu with my 2018, i7 32gb Macmini. My CPU usage seems fine on my larger sessions (25% usage @ 50+ tracks with plugins) but the temperature stays pretty warm, 90-93 C. Did you find the egpu help it run cooler as well? I usually mix at 1024 buffer setting.
Did you end up getting one? If so were there improvements with heat?
Sorry I never saw this comment. I made a part 2 of this video, in which I do show the temperature decrease when using an eGPU. So yes, the eGPU does help the mac mini run cooler by 10 degrees celsius.
@@pothole991 Watch part 2 of my video, as I cover this topic (of temperature) within it.