Anthony Fantano's 5 albums to get you into experimental hip hop: Death Grips - Exmilitary Death Grips - The Money Store Death Grips - No Love Deep Web Death Grips - The Powers That B Death Grips - Bottomless Pit
@@hyprlynk374 same here. Couldn't fuck with it at all at first but it really does fit it perfectly. It fits the manic downward spiral that people with addictions go through.
i disagree, something like CLPPNG or The Money Store would work well as a starting point, imo. maybe my taste in music is skewing my perception a bit, though idk.
Im big into hip hop, its one of my main genres that I listen to. I think this list was absolutely perfect! It covered so many different 'sounds' of experimental hip hop. Good shit man, I love your videos.
Some other cool experimental hip hop Danny Brown- Atrocity Exhibition Clipping.- CLPPNG Aesop Rock- Labor Days Deltron 3030- Deltron 3030 Earl Sweatshirt- I don’t like sh** I don’t go outside Bus driver- Thumbs Although not considered Experimental hip hop by most you can also make the argument that Kendrick Lamar- To Pimp a Butterfly and Freddie Gibbs & Madlib- Piñata Are also technically very good experimental albums
Flying Lotus. Maybe in another half decade we wouldn't be able to ignore the real influence his music and label has had on almost all contemporary hip-hop.
@@sharoncommon4743 Agreed, I discovered Wagonchrist/Luke Vibert on ketamin and realised just how amateur Flylo is compared to him and others. His endless use of trying to make the most complicated messy beats he can think of, but it gets old fast.
Shades of blue is to this day is one of the best albums I’ve ever listened to. I was about 17 when I first heard it and every time I listen to it I am transported back to that time so vividly. Obviously music in general is a very powerful evoker of nostalgic memories from the time that you listened to it but shades of blue does that more intensely than any other musical work that I’ve experienced other than vaudeville villain. Those two albums are just such a powerful listening experience for me, even back then they were but now they are even more so because they are tied to probably the best time of my life. They hold a very special place in my life.
Kill the Vultures - The Careless Flame Galaxy Cloak - Galaxy Cloak blackhandpath - did it and got away with it JOHNNASCUS - Errquu MKULTRA - Green Guy Dälek - From the filthy tongue of gods and griots ho99o9 - Cyber Warfare Non Prophets - Hope Ka - Honor killed the samurai all great projects, very underrated
if u ever want to get into experimental hip hop on the underground side of things, here are some FANTASTIC projects to start with: yung bruh - emocean black kray - crack clouds over art$ kitchen boy froot - drug lord wizard charles hamilton - pink lava lamp hi-c - rare hi-c PNG
B L A C K I E is definitely one of the most experimental in the subgenre of avant-rap. I definitely recommend his 2014 album, "Imagine Your Self in a Free and Natural World", as it consists of jazzcore (hardcore punk with free jazz), industrial hip hop and drone influences all over. It's mixed LOUD, however, so definitely tone the volume down if you have sensitive ears.
Nice video! I'm glad Shabazz Palaces made the list, I expected the last spot to be Death Grips. I myself prefer Lese Majesty, but I can't deny Black Up's greatness
What I have to thank for spurring my interest and subsequent obsession with experimental rap is, oddly enough, the boondocks. MF DOOM’s “strange ways” plays in an episode of the show and when I heard it, I just had to find out what it was. This was back in around 2011 so finding the name of a song wasn’t as streamlined a process as it is today. I looked up the boondocks scene on RUclips and was asking in the comments if anyone knew the song, I posted on music forums asking as well and when I found out the name, that’s when I fell in love with the music of metal face. I already loved the instrumental when I heard it on the show but the lyrics couldn’t really be heard because they were drowned out by the show so when I actually listened to it and heard the lyrics, it just cemented my love for his music. The beat, his voice, the content of the lyrics, all a perfect storm of rap that propelled me into this new experimental avenue of hip hop that I was beginning to go down. Ever since then I have loved this genre and it has honesty defined who I am and my musical tastes more than any other music in my life.
Loving these vids man. My five faves when it comes to experimental hip hop (maybe you wouldn't consider all of these experimental): 1. Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain 2. Handsome Boy Modeling School - White People 3. Mykki Blanco - Betty Rubble: The Initiation 4. Danger Doom - The Mouse and The Mask 5. Deltron 3030 - Event 2
And if you're more of a metalhead, Dalek's albums Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots as well as Absence are 100% essentials to listen to if you're wanting to get into experimental hip hop and prefer a more dark and raw sound rather than just pure experimental stuff.
Great video, I could never get into dr octagynecologist bc the skits rly annoyed me but the rest I love, donuts especially which I'd say is the best rap album ever
If you're into experimental Hip Hop, have you heard of the group clipping.? They're probably my favourite experimental Hip Hop act, and the most avant-garde in my opinion. They never use the first person in their lyrics and they never use drums, they create drum beats out of things like door knocking, bulkheads closing, tape ripping, trash trucks dumping off their loads, they even made a beat out of an alarm clock, it's incredible
Yes I really like clipping, I added some of their stuff to the experimental hip hop playlist I put on spotify. What are your thoughts on Splendour and Misery?
I absolutely love it. I wasn't sure what to think of it at first but after a few listens it clicked and I started to love it. I like how they seem to be trying to get people into listening to full albums again instead of just a few songs, and by making it only 37 minutes it isn't too overloaded. I've listened to it 5 times so far and I'm still uncovering new bits of the concept. I'm not sure if you know about the hidden message in Interlude 2 (Numbers) but it's absolutely genius
If Danny Brown's "Atrocity Exhibition" was out when he made this video I feel like it'd be on here. I wish this was a 10 album list so he could go from lighter experimentation in hip hop (Madvillain) to heavier and more extreme experimentation in hip hop (clipping., Death Grips, etc.)
I don't know if it counts as "experimental" but Deltron 3030 - s/t is probably my favorite hip hop album ever Sounds somewhat similar to Dr Octagon but less dark and fucked up
If you haven't already, you should check out some of Fat Jon's stuff. Wave Motion is one of my personal favorites, just so spacey and ambient of a sound. Takes me to another world every time.
Raspberry Fields yeah? Man, just another total match with me! Best track on this brilliant album. I would also come up with "Wasteland, vol. 1" by CYNE - pure experiment, simillar to Dr. Octagon in a way: The story of cyber-war-machine in a form of human that travels through time and space and is called Lazerteeth Killmore - insane akbum with perfect flows, mindmelting lyrics in first two minutes of each track, and each one followed by 10+ minutes of sweetest beats ever. You're getting relaxed for some time, just having real good time with this music and then BOOM - new track starts with a new chapter of Lazerteeth saga. And it goes like this for like an eternity, then album suddenly ends and you finding yourself wanting to listen to it once again.
Рейнхард Ланг wow just checked your recommendation. Brilliant stuff. This is the reason I love pages like this, plenty of good recommendations to be found.
do this do that / it's only 5 albums and all these are great to get you into it / we're all well aware that there are other experimental hip hop albums that are good
kinda sucks that you didnt include Quasimoto The Unseen. i know this video is pretty old but The Unseen is such an amazing album. its like a surreal cartoon hip hop wonderland composed my Madlib and Quasimoto with dense production, surreal elements and hilarious rapping. i highly recommend it
Before even watching this video I was hoping that the unseen would be on the list but at least it got an honorable mention. At least something associated with Mad-Lib made it.
I appreciate that you nominate Cannibal Ox (The Cold Vein it's a great album) but why there's no space for Anti Pop Consortium and Dalek? And why there's no mention of Company Flow?
im talking about their debut which everybody on /mu/ praises too much. they say it's the only good hip hop album ever made and that everything that isn't clouddead is just people yelling about drugs and sex.
For me experimental hiphop is just hiphop artists who are doing what they should be doiny; making good albums and focus less on ego and commercial success.
you named Reachin by Digable Planets but you forgot to name their sophomore album Blowout Comb from 1993! Imo nothing short of one of the best rap albums of all time
The Fuck's the *Death* ? Madvillainy got me interested and Exmilitary got me committed to the asylum. And my word I hadn't heard the Doctor in over a decade. My brother blasted him back when it came out...weird guy.
Well mixing juvvenile with serious topics comes up again in RTJ if we still are considering racism as a serious topic, don't get me wrong it is, but it is in almost any hip hop album nowadays, with exeptions ofc. So Deep_Cuts, would you consider doing a uk meetup? You seem like a fun guy for talking film, philosophy and music at once.
goclbert I would say that it is the very definition of experimental in that Dilla was always experimenting with what was possible with the tools he had and feeling out the edges of what could reasonably be called instrumental hip-hop. This idea that his work isn't experimental simply because the lessons he learned have been so thoroughly assimilated in the years since-and frankly still rub people the wrong way; look at how some folks have been kvetching about Earl Sweatshirt's loop choice and rapping over the bar line on "East", to name a very recent example-is kind of silly to me, at best, and at worst basically rewriting history to make something retroactively fit a specific narrative. Apologies if I seem a bit confrontational here, but this sort of thing really does bug me quite a bit.
most of the hip hop from before the bling era wasnt quantized that had nothing to do with conscious choice but the limitation of the technology accessible to a lot of beginning producers at the time flying lotus and the people from the beat scene are a group of producers that got famous by eschewing quantization because by 2008 2009 it had become standard to use quantization in music. Also i feel like personally that j dilla and madlib/mfdoom weren't experimental they just had a very unique production/rap style and where very good at digging but its not like they took the rule book and threw it out the window or purposefully subverted song structures and such (which is a hallmark of most experimental music) i would even go so far as to say that by the time donuts came out dilla wasn't even an underground producer anymore and had a significant influence on the rap/hiphop landscape.
Anthony Fantano's 5 albums to get you into experimental hip hop:
Death Grips - Exmilitary
Death Grips - The Money Store
Death Grips - No Love Deep Web
Death Grips - The Powers That B
Death Grips - Bottomless Pit
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Nitro Vanderhoss true partrician
You should've listed Death Grips. They're amazing.
Bottomless pit got me into death grips
ssunbated26 dont admit that shhhh
Atrocity Exhibition is a great introduction to the genre
that albums production is phenomenal but his voice is just unbearable
@@phatrick false
@@phatrick At first I couldn't stand his voice but after listening to the whole thing I really got into it and I think it totally fits the album.
@@hyprlynk374 same here. Couldn't fuck with it at all at first but it really does fit it perfectly.
It fits the manic downward spiral that people with addictions go through.
*me trying to work out what joy division has to do with experimental hip-hop*
Started with Exmilitary for me. "Beware" was such a mind-blowing opener.
to be honest that album's the reason i got into hip hop in the first place whether traditional or not
same
Same
Guillotine got me hooked
Money Store for me
clipping, death grips, the list goes on
thunder birds maybe not to start with though
horrible starting place
thunder birdz Flying Lotus, Ka, Danny Brown, DJ Shadow,
i disagree, something like CLPPNG or The Money Store would work well as a starting point, imo. maybe my taste in music is skewing my perception a bit, though idk.
death grips was my starting point. took a week of listening for them to stop giving me a headache. wouldn't reccomend
Im big into hip hop, its one of my main genres that I listen to. I think this list was absolutely perfect! It covered so many different 'sounds' of experimental hip hop. Good shit man, I love your videos.
+loudbill, thanks I really appreciate that! More hip hop videos coming soon for sure :)
Some other cool experimental hip hop
Danny Brown- Atrocity Exhibition
Clipping.- CLPPNG
Aesop Rock- Labor Days
Deltron 3030- Deltron 3030
Earl Sweatshirt- I don’t like sh** I don’t go outside
Bus driver- Thumbs
Although not considered Experimental hip hop by most you can also make the argument that
Kendrick Lamar- To Pimp a Butterfly
and
Freddie Gibbs & Madlib- Piñata
Are also technically very good experimental albums
Mr.Snoopdude I love Aesop rock
hmm idk if labor days is experimental per say
IDLSIDGO is honestly a master piece for me
Fantanocore haha
But still they're great albums! CLPPNG and Atrocity Exhibition are personal favourites when it comes to hip hop.
Do you have any more?
Flying Lotus. Maybe in another half decade we wouldn't be able to ignore the real influence his music and label has had on almost all contemporary hip-hop.
htirarith Ehhh. I agree with what you said but Fly-lo is in his own lane. His music is like a Jazz/IDM/Hip-Hop fusion.
goclbert exactly. Equal parts Herbie Hancock, Aphex Twin, and J Dilla
FLYING LOTUS? : yes , but only a couple of records. Two or three. Aside from the top moments a lot of FL isnt very good.
@@sharoncommon4743 Agreed, I discovered Wagonchrist/Luke Vibert on ketamin and realised just how amateur Flylo is compared to him and others. His endless use of trying to make the most complicated messy beats he can think of, but it gets old fast.
Funcrusher Plus is a great start for experimental hip hop and is just an amazing album in general.
Kool Keith got me into Hip-hop. Wasn't an easy job me being a metal head but his level of creativity just couldn't be ignored.
Shades of blue is to this day is one of the best albums I’ve ever listened to. I was about 17 when I first heard it and every time I listen to it I am transported back to that time so vividly. Obviously music in general is a very powerful evoker of nostalgic memories from the time that you listened to it but shades of blue does that more intensely than any other musical work that I’ve experienced other than vaudeville villain. Those two albums are just such a powerful listening experience for me, even back then they were but now they are even more so because they are tied to probably the best time of my life. They hold a very special place in my life.
Everyone’s going on about death grips, but what about Dälek
These millennials don't know.
Dalek,Techno Animal/Ice,Scorn etc. were Death Grips long before Death Grips.
I'm a bit confused, these are the guys that mix drone with rap right? I've heard of them but have not listened to anything by them yet.
@@a-dude From what I know, Scorn mixes drone with hip hop beats and Dälek mixes industrial/noise with rap.
@@Squiddit Oh thanks, been looking for a group that mixes drone with hip hop for quite awhile
@@a-dude I could be wrong but I think cLOUDdEAD (along with tge anticon label) does alot of that ambient drone rap stuff too, be sure to check em out
2001's cannnibal ox, sooo far ahead of it's time! They are amazing
Kill the Vultures - The Careless Flame
Galaxy Cloak - Galaxy Cloak
blackhandpath - did it and got away with it
JOHNNASCUS - Errquu
MKULTRA - Green Guy
Dälek - From the filthy tongue of gods and griots
ho99o9 - Cyber Warfare
Non Prophets - Hope
Ka - Honor killed the samurai
all great projects, very underrated
great comment
Backxwash - God Has Nothing To Do With This Leave Him Out Of It
Some fantastic albums.
My fav experimental hip hop albums of this year would have to be:
Splendor and Misery
Bottomless Pit
Atrocity Exhibition
Agree with all of those, and I would add Hella Personal Film Festival by OME and Paul White.
I haven't properly sat down to listen to Splendor and Misery yet, but Bottomless Pit and Atrocity Exhibition are great
ICU ViZioN BLO BLO BLO BLO BLO BLO BLO OH NO!
Aesop rock's impossible kid is among my favorite albums in 2016. It is really good you should check it out
Splendor and Misery is pretty meh. I like concept albums but not this one
It’s funny because I used to like rap, then I hated it, now I’m starting to get interested in it again
if u ever want to get into experimental hip hop on the underground side of things, here are some FANTASTIC projects to start with:
yung bruh - emocean
black kray - crack clouds over art$ kitchen
boy froot - drug lord wizard
charles hamilton - pink lava lamp
hi-c - rare hi-c PNG
I would love to see you do an introduction to Blues.
Watching deep cuts videos just for the intro music >>>>>>
Really nice overlook of the genre! Nice content, thanks for putting it out.
B L A C K I E is definitely one of the most experimental in the subgenre of avant-rap. I definitely recommend his 2014 album, "Imagine Your Self in a Free and Natural World", as it consists of jazzcore (hardcore punk with free jazz), industrial hip hop and drone influences all over. It's mixed LOUD, however, so definitely tone the volume down if you have sensitive ears.
Absolutely loving this series :)
it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on Psychedelic Rock sometime.
Thanks Laurens! I will definitely get around to doing a psych rock video soon!
Nice video! I'm glad Shabazz Palaces made the list, I expected the last spot to be Death Grips. I myself prefer Lese Majesty, but I can't deny Black Up's greatness
Forerunner Foray is a masterpiece
What I have to thank for spurring my interest and subsequent obsession with experimental rap is, oddly enough, the boondocks. MF DOOM’s “strange ways” plays in an episode of the show and when I heard it, I just had to find out what it was. This was back in around 2011 so finding the name of a song wasn’t as streamlined a process as it is today. I looked up the boondocks scene on RUclips and was asking in the comments if anyone knew the song, I posted on music forums asking as well and when I found out the name, that’s when I fell in love with the music of metal face. I already loved the instrumental when I heard it on the show but the lyrics couldn’t really be heard because they were drowned out by the show so when I actually listened to it and heard the lyrics, it just cemented my love for his music. The beat, his voice, the content of the lyrics, all a perfect storm of rap that propelled me into this new experimental avenue of hip hop that I was beginning to go down. Ever since then I have loved this genre and it has honesty defined who I am and my musical tastes more than any other music in my life.
Strange ways is one of my favorite songs of all time
dr octagynecolist is such an obscure and absurd album i love it
Thank you for these videos! A lot of this music I have never heard of, and you make me want to check new things out.
Edan - Beauty and the Beat is one of my faves.
Loving these vids man.
My five faves when it comes to experimental hip hop (maybe you wouldn't consider all of these experimental):
1. Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
2. Handsome Boy Modeling School - White People
3. Mykki Blanco - Betty Rubble: The Initiation
4. Danger Doom - The Mouse and The Mask
5. Deltron 3030 - Event 2
Thanks Marten! Cool list, love Deltron a lot, need to check out that Mykki Blanco record
dalek should be here, or Techno Animal
Don’t forget slauson malone’s “a quiet farwell” album which really got me into experimental
that came out in 2019
idek whether to consider it hip-hop
Everyone wants to add albums to the list, but no one ever says what albums to remove in place of it
And if you're more of a metalhead, Dalek's albums Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots as well as Absence are 100% essentials to listen to if you're wanting to get into experimental hip hop and prefer a more dark and raw sound rather than just pure experimental stuff.
Classic
Great video, I could never get into dr octagynecologist bc the skits rly annoyed me but the rest I love, donuts especially which I'd say is the best rap album ever
You should make an Alternative Hip Hop 5 albums, especially with all the jazz and soul influences the genre has
If you're into experimental Hip Hop, have you heard of the group clipping.? They're probably my favourite experimental Hip Hop act, and the most avant-garde in my opinion. They never use the first person in their lyrics and they never use drums, they create drum beats out of things like door knocking, bulkheads closing, tape ripping, trash trucks dumping off their loads, they even made a beat out of an alarm clock, it's incredible
Yes I really like clipping, I added some of their stuff to the experimental hip hop playlist I put on spotify. What are your thoughts on Splendour and Misery?
I absolutely love it. I wasn't sure what to think of it at first but after a few listens it clicked and I started to love it. I like how they seem to be trying to get people into listening to full albums again instead of just a few songs, and by making it only 37 minutes it isn't too overloaded. I've listened to it 5 times so far and I'm still uncovering new bits of the concept. I'm not sure if you know about the hidden message in Interlude 2 (Numbers) but it's absolutely genius
I personally recommend "Floss" from Injury Reserve. It's fairly accessible.
If Danny Brown's "Atrocity Exhibition" was out when he made this video I feel like it'd be on here. I wish this was a 10 album list so he could go from lighter experimentation in hip hop (Madvillain) to heavier and more extreme experimentation in hip hop (clipping., Death Grips, etc.)
You should also do 5 Alternative Hip Hop Albums
Very nice!
I don't know if it counts as "experimental" but Deltron 3030 - s/t is probably my favorite hip hop album ever
Sounds somewhat similar to Dr Octagon but less dark and fucked up
It’s a lot more Blade Runner vibe to Dr Octagons Sci fi version of American Psycho
Both produced and mixed by Dan The Automator. Revolutionary production.
Howzabout Modern Psychedelia? Black Angels, Dead Meadow, BJM, the Sacred Bones label, White Fence, Lumerians, Goat...
Prefuse 73, either Vocal Studies + Upfront Narratives or One Word Extinguisher
He’s on the money with the description
Great list. My personal favourite is Dalek. I think my favourite contemporary project is Marlowe.
Dr. Octagon is on Spotify!
Love all five of these albums
Yeezus is actually an example of a decent experimental hip-hop album.
Not really
my own work ia Alternative Hip Hop putting together my first LP now thanks for the list I'd love to get some inspiration!
If you haven't already, you should check out some of Fat Jon's stuff. Wave Motion is one of my personal favorites, just so spacey and ambient of a sound. Takes me to another world every time.
What are your thoughts on Deltron 3030?
Talal Khan I think it’s a solid 8/10
6 of ten, faded as the album went on.
Tajai's year-2000 cyberhip hop album "Projecto:2501" gets no love for some reason.I liked it far more than Deltron 3030.
10/10
Raspberry Fields yeah? Man, just another total match with me! Best track on this brilliant album. I would also come up with "Wasteland, vol. 1" by CYNE - pure experiment, simillar to Dr. Octagon in a way: The story of cyber-war-machine in a form of human that travels through time and space and is called Lazerteeth Killmore - insane akbum with perfect flows, mindmelting lyrics in first two minutes of each track, and each one followed by 10+ minutes of sweetest beats ever. You're getting relaxed for some time, just having real good time with this music and then BOOM - new track starts with a new chapter of Lazerteeth saga. And it goes like this for like an eternity, then album suddenly ends and you finding yourself wanting to listen to it once again.
More good suggestions for follow up listens, thanks mate!
Рейнхард Ланг wow just checked your recommendation. Brilliant stuff. This is the reason I love pages like this, plenty of good recommendations to be found.
do this do that / it's only 5 albums and all these are great to get you into it / we're all well aware that there are other experimental hip hop albums that are good
Donuts was my gateway to experimental and boom bap
Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition. Was released after this video. If an update is coming, include it.
kinda sucks that you didnt include Quasimoto The Unseen. i know this video is pretty old but The Unseen is such an amazing album. its like a surreal cartoon hip hop wonderland composed my Madlib and Quasimoto with dense production, surreal elements and hilarious rapping. i highly recommend it
Original Pirate Material by The Streets ... #1 HANDS DOWN
Before even watching this video I was hoping that the unseen would be on the list but at least it got an honorable mention. At least something associated with Mad-Lib made it.
Cannibal Ox changed my life
5 Albums to get into World Music
I could probably tell you those. 🤷♂️
I appreciate that you nominate Cannibal Ox (The Cold Vein it's a great album) but why there's no space for Anti Pop Consortium and Dalek? And why there's no mention of Company Flow?
yes funcrusher plus should have gotten a place.
dälek isn’t really that good for people who are trying to get into experimental rap because their music are pretty harsh
1.Outkast Atliens
2.Cannibal Ox The Cold Vein
3.Kool Keith Dr.Octagonecologyst
4.EL-P Accidents don't Happen
5.Danny Brown Actrocity Exhibition
Surprised that Quasimoto isn't on here; otherwise great list
any love for Clouddead ?
overpraised as fuck
I don't know I deelply love Ten and I never read anything about it or whatever, I found it randomly and have been really into it for 5 years.
im talking about their debut which everybody on /mu/ praises too much. they say it's the only good hip hop album ever made and that everything that isn't clouddead is just people yelling about drugs and sex.
uri.zablocca Noo
dead dogs two with boards of canada is just one of those things. like i didnt know shit.
Deltron 3030. That is all i have to say.
For me experimental hiphop is just hiphop artists who are doing what they should be doiny; making good albums and focus less on ego and commercial success.
1. The Money Store
2. Bottomless Pit
3. Exmilitary
4. Jenny Death
5. No Love Deep Web
Do a guide on black metal
I was thinking about check your head by beastie boys. Fusing rock, jazz, funk and punk with rap
If you guys are watching this in 2020 I recommend Earl Sweatshirt's 2018 Album Some Rap Songs.
The automator deserves props for the Dr Octagonocologist record.
Dalek - From Filthy tongues of Gods and griot
Coin locker kid - traumville (I forget the name)
Deltron 3030 - S/T
You should do a video on nujabes 😁
no love for the rammellzee?
gettovetts - missionaries moving (basically the first experimental hiphop album) and his 2 follow up albums
Also the beatnigs self titled
Hmm, Sun Ra, now theres a video idea!
Three words:
Some Rap Songs
Yurei-tachi by Moe and ghosts is also very good. It even features a cover of Scarborough Fair
Good balance. Would have tried to get some Anticon in there though
Madvillainy, Niagara, and LP! Are prolly the best 3 to start
you named Reachin by Digable Planets but you forgot to name their sophomore album Blowout Comb from 1993! Imo nothing short of one of the best rap albums of all time
Do shoegaze!
Do shoegaze!
1000 times yes!
Guess I better do shoegaze next then!
I DID THE SHOEGAZE VID GUYS, GO WATCH IT!
and you did well....
Cold vein is a stunning album
Please do Top 5 yacht rock albums
Now you can add Circles and Swimming to the list Mr.Fisherman we miss you
The Fuck's the *Death* ? Madvillainy got me interested and Exmilitary got me committed to the asylum. And my word I hadn't heard the Doctor in over a decade. My brother blasted him back when it came out...weird guy.
5 albums to get you into detroit techno
cLOUDDEAD boy
You have got your shit together mister
Shit, I've heard them all already D:
Lee Scott and Blah Records in general are pretty good too
DJ Shadow's "Endtroducing....."?
EL-P Fantastic Damage
Expected some Busdriver though... Maybe temporary forever
What was that intro?
Everyone should listen Honey Claws!
MF DOOM is the David Bowie of hip hop due to his different personas.
Well mixing juvvenile with serious topics comes up again in RTJ if we still are considering racism as a serious topic, don't get me wrong it is, but it is in almost any hip hop album nowadays, with exeptions ofc. So Deep_Cuts, would you consider doing a uk meetup? You seem like a fun guy for talking film, philosophy and music at once.
Is Donuts really "experimental?" I think it's revolutionary without being experimental.
Yeah, it's just instrumental hip-hop.
Agree
agreed
goclbert I would say that it is the very definition of experimental in that Dilla was always experimenting with what was possible with the tools he had and feeling out the edges of what could reasonably be called instrumental hip-hop. This idea that his work isn't experimental simply because the lessons he learned have been so thoroughly assimilated in the years since-and frankly still rub people the wrong way; look at how some folks have been kvetching about Earl Sweatshirt's loop choice and rapping over the bar line on "East", to name a very recent example-is kind of silly to me, at best, and at worst basically rewriting history to make something retroactively fit a specific narrative.
Apologies if I seem a bit confrontational here, but this sort of thing really does bug me quite a bit.
i don’t care that this was before some rap songs, i’m still mad that’s it’s not here
most of the hip hop from before the bling era wasnt quantized that had nothing to do with conscious choice but the limitation of the technology accessible to a lot of beginning producers at the time flying lotus and the people from the beat scene are a group of producers that got famous by eschewing quantization because by 2008 2009 it had become standard to use quantization in music. Also i feel like personally that j dilla and madlib/mfdoom weren't experimental they just had a very unique production/rap style and where very good at digging but its not like they took the rule book and threw it out the window or purposefully subverted song structures and such (which is a hallmark of most experimental music) i would even go so far as to say that by the time donuts came out dilla wasn't even an underground producer anymore and had a significant influence on the rap/hiphop landscape.
what are your thoughts on Saafir's debut "Boxcar Sessions"?
could you do one on IDM?
Yeah definitely one I'll do in the near future Kieran