Michael Jackson's accusers detail alleged abuse by the late pop icon
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2019
- In this extended conversation of their first TV interview about the HBO documentary, "Leaving Neverland," Wade Robson and James Safechuck share with "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King their allegations that Michael Jackson sexually abused them when they were children. Michael Jackson always denied claims of child molestation. He settled a case involving sexual abuse allegations in 1993 and was acquitted in a criminal molestation trial in 2005.
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What parent leaves their child with a grown man!! For a week!
Whitney McClinton Nit wits, bums, crooks, absentee parents, parents behind on their bills, irresponsible parents, numb skulls.... I can continue!!!
hmmm...………………………..
IamRoyElty what grown man wants to be with someone’s child alone for a week?
I know! Right!! Michael is DEAD? I think it's wrong to ruin his legacy, by digging up issues after he is not here to defend himself! RIP KING OF POP!
@@roseburton3275 just because he's dead doesn't mean he wasn't a pedophile. There's plenty of dead child molesters. His victims however are still alive ( not counting the two dads that commited suicide.)
This guy is 7 years old and his parents allow him stay with MJ for a week. They need to be sued.
MORE LIKE THEY SHOULD BE EXECUTED AND DISPOSED OF WITH THE DAILY GARBAGE
They were dazzled by celebrity (like many of the ppl posting here). And many of the same people calling these guys liars would have allowed their own kids to go hang out with a predator like Jackson.
Their parents are the guilty party here.
You never stayed over at a friends house? He was like father Christmas to the kids and the parents ,, wake up...
The families, like many people, bought into Michael Jackson's act, that he was this innocent, fragile spirit who couldn't hurt a fly. It was a perfect cover and it helped convince the world that he was worthy of trust when the opposite was true. And he was a wealthy and powerful celebrity. As proven on this comments thread, people are too easily starstruck and they buy into celebrity personas too easily and that's why these celebrities get away with doing terrible things. So I don't blame the families for believing in Michael's Jackson's innocence and trusting their children with him. The rest of the world believed it too. That's abundantly clear from all the people who still defend Jackson despite all the people who've come forward with accounts of his predatory behavior.
I hope that when you stand before the real judge you know what to say to be case out the pits of hell.
It's so obvious that they are lying. What a shame! Do you want money? Go and work a lot for that.
Bro when they raided his apartment they found countless photos of kids. And their quotes sound like something he would say
Stop defending Hollywood pedophiles
Never leave your children alone with strangers.
Michael did nothing to them. They lie.
Ellos son doble cara
ding ding ding common sense people common sense..............
@@charlieeells6120 Michael did nothing wrong to them. They lie.
@@wesmcinerny4524 that’s what I was thinking cash cow
And again: it's only the mothers who are being criticized for not protecting their sons. What about the fathers' responsibility?
James father doesn't believe him and has always defended Michael. Wade's father was molested himself and killed himself after losing battle with mental health issues. In a franch program in which the directeur of the documentary was debating a panel of pro Michael Jackson people a psychiatrist touched on that the father might have molested Wade and is accusing instead Michael Jackson for financial gain. Wade hated his father and they did touched on that in the documentary
Joy took Wade away from his father- and he would end up committing suicide. James' father passed a couple of years ago.
Yeah thats why they were easy targets... Both didnt have fothers around... Sad
MEN say they are rightfully in charge, so MEN get the responsibility and the blame. That's how BEING IN CHARGE WORKS, dudes. Might wanna rethink your angle. :)
Joy Robson stalked Michael Jackson. And James' Mom claims to have danced a jig when she found out Michael died. But James didn't tell anyone he was "molested" until 2013. And Jackson died in 09'...🤔
That would mean she thought Mike was a sexual deviant all along, yet she still let James hang around MJ.
They both have sad eyes. They somehow look similar. Not that they have similar facial features, but the sadness in their eyes.
Please stop they are horrible actors tell them to get a job.
And STOP lying ... smh
I was thinking the same thing!
The reason why is because if these LIES don't fool anybody, they will remain a BUM 😂.
You’re an idiot for allowing them to fool you like that
I believe them ...🕵🏻♂️🤔
Liars
Just because you dont want something to be true about this pop idol (who im a fan of) doesn't mean it isnt. Why am I the only one who understands someone can produce great works of art...and still be sick in the head
Teenie finally someone with a head on their shoulders👍
Exactly!!!!
Teenie thank you for saying this!
So true!
@@natureandrap for real.
Kokainuser why's that then because these guys say so?
wtf why would you leave your child behind with a grown men for 5 days
rick
Thank u blame your parents
He went with them!!! WADE LIED! HIS OWN MOTHER'S SAID IN HER TESTIMONY IN 1993 THAT HE WENT WITH THEM !! Grand Canyon is a lie! And train station abuse is a lie and if I'm gonna write all their lies I will write a who damn essay! Leaving Neverland is ALL A BIG LIE!
@@trustgod3868 Sir or Ma'am, have you ever heard of 'grooming' ... or do you know child abuse works on the minds of the children, even as adults? Some NEVER admit it but it does not mean it did not happen. Grow up!
@@TerryReedMiss Dear Ma'am the room James Safechuck describes didn't even exist! how can he be abused in a room that did NOT exist? And Wade was with his family in Grand Canyon he did NOT stay with Michael ! And you're old but you believe words instead of facts, proofs receipts and you tell me to grow up because I give out facts and proofs and spread the truth?...In that case thank God that FBI, Police and Court didn't grow up and still need PROOFS, FACTS AND RECEIPTS! OH AND MICHAEL WAS AND IS PROVEN INNOCENT
@Lion of Zion Fact, receipts, proofs don't agree with you. You're invalid. Try again
We all know Michael was a little weird because of his traumatic past
But I think these two clowns are blatantly lying, just scavanging for money. And scavenger is the right word here because Michael is dead
Disrespectful for real victims of abuse
They are lying, wants only money
Isn't it a father's number one job to protect his child too though??
Anyone who believes these 2 are participating in railroading of an innocent man and THIS is how you lynch an innocent person and how innocent people are incarcerated. You give ONE SIDE. If the other side story was told, this is would prove they are LIARS. James has been caught in the biggest lie with the Train House that didn't even exist when he was 10 to 14, his timeline. 🤣And he can't push it out because at 15 in September 1993, when the first case broke, he said MJ never touched him and when MJ returned to the states under investigation for 14 months, James and his mother were still defending MJ. In August 1996, when MJ had married LM, James and his mother would accompany MJ to the video shoot in Budapest for the trailer video to his album HIStory. James at 16 1/2 had odd jobs and one of them was carrying MJ's umbrella. I have the photo and video of that. James is taller than MJ so no way MJ is taking him up to the 2nd floor of the train house for sex when he lived in NYC for all of 1994. 🤣 The train house was completed in the summer of 1994 and permits PROVE IT.
Regarding Wade, you can find the video of Wade at Neverland with his wife in 2007, when MJ didn't even live there, enjoying his "sacred land." Go watch it and see if he looks victimized? You will also know, when Wade didn't have to, he went into a criminal courtroom in 2005 as an ADULT, an stated under oath, and said MJ never touched him. Do you know this?? This is the very reason they did a LIEdoc without giving the OTHER side. But it will all come out. "Lies win sprints but truth wins marathons." Michael Jackson
It took 25 years for me to tell, and no one cared...because "I never said anything before". I completely believe them.
Maxine Z, the point is not that it took so long.
As someone who experienced abuse, let me ask you. Is the person who did it alive or dead? Do you think that your psychologist, friends and family help you best to heal, maybe even other victims or the public opinion, criticism to yourself and your parents, tv stations and loads of people who want to interview you? And most importantly, did you ever want your (dead) abusers family to suffer and did you try to get money out of them? It would be another story to come out to stop someone doing it to someone else, to get justice, even, if you cannot afford medical attention that you need as a cause of this to be covered. But going after his family after he is dead is utterly despicable.
@@timbrown7039 Go see the doctor.
Maxine Z yes and you are completely right. The blind idolatry has replaced any semblance of brain cell functioning those deniers of his abuse have. Take care - I am going to keep on proclaiming his guilt - the truth is in Safechuck’s eyes. Take care.
Tim Brown Have you not heard that he was definitely a pedophile? Look and you will see. Warning - Required -opening of mind and search for brain cell activation - Try - look into Safechuck’s eyes. He doesn’t need to speak. The truth is in his eyes. Robson is telling the truth too. Note when they nod and recognise the experience the other describes - not rehearsed. On the other hand - watch a few Jackson videos when he’s pouring out his little sorrowful childhood stories (which are true - he did have a horrid childhood)- So he knows the pain but he is totally rehearsed and choreographed to hide the part of the story that isn’t true - his love of children as innocent playmates of the Peter Pan - only except near the end - with Bashir - the mask slipped - he took more risks - having the boy in the picture - he was getting sloppy - drug use may have contributed here to the sloppiness - Icarus thought he’d gotten away with it in broad day light - Icarus (your MJ) thought - ‘I can do anything I want,” cause not only had he groomed entire families and parents of young boys for quite a few decades - he’d also groomed all you star struck numpties, of which there seems to be an infinite number of - and now you are all doing his bidding. He’s finished now with young boys - but you are continuing his abuse here on earth for him by denying the Truth. Clap clap - you shower of empty dangerous shells.
Tim Brown what the heck? i may not know about being abused, but its not easy to come out about a difficult situation so please- Dont
How did MJ win his 2005 Criminal Trial with not only the NEW cases prosecuted but the 1993 CASE AS WELL. When have you EVER seen in a criminal trial, a VICTIM DEFEND a man he now claims raped him for 7 years????? Why would MJ even RISK putting that person on the stand if he he had done that???? He doesn't know if will break down and confess right there. "He raped me." Do anyone know why the 1993 case was admitted into the 2005 trial? Because the Arvizo 2005 case FELL APART when they claimed MJ kidnapped them and receipts were produce of them OUT IN PUBLIC. Why wasn't this in Leaving Neverland?
There is a commenter literally above you that says they had to go to trial regarding their abuser and they lied on the stand - wtf is wrong with you
it wasn't a risk to him bc he knew he'd successfully groomed them for years since they were little
@@Donyalicious You better catch up with Wade's LIE. He said MJ did it on DAY 1. No grooming. Yet you had the Arvizo claiming MJ did it AFTER he investigation AFTER the Bashir doc aired and after the told the Division Child Protective Services MJ DID NOTHING. 🤣
@@Donyalicious🤣🤣🤣🤣 and you believed that!
@@brunasilveira.aWhy wouldn’t he?
One of these guys said that the abuse was in the train station and gave explicit details about the interior when in fact the train station was just being constructed.
There is a picture of him, Jimmy with the train station in the background, so it proof he was there, but the director think he mistakes that the abused carried on longer than he remembered at first. It is very difficult to remember every day and month in detail from one's childhood. Can you? Because I certainly cant
This was analyzed in their court case and went against these two guys. There are many other claims which were proven false, including destroying their MJ memorabilia, which in fact was sold at a private auction for an amount over $100,000. @@k.h.7575
@@k.h.7575 Reed was already caught out lying there. Safechuck maintained the abuse ended earlier. It's even what he submitted in court very recently. Your denial of factual information is hysterical. You should try not be too proud of that white supremacy.
@@k.h.7575
Exactly
Amen! 🙏 ❤
💯
If this case wasn’t about MJ but about a nobody, Im absolutely sure that 99% of the people would be saying “guilty”. Sad but true!!!
Some people cannot be shaken from their beliefs, and perhaps that is THEIR past not allowing them. It's just too hurtful to be so betrayed for some people. Some of us expect it! Or, have it in our experience that 'big names' are just that --- they are not the private person, only a label. Manipulative people usually are NOT bad people! But when a manipulative person IS up to no good, they have a better chance of getting away with it - big name or not, but especially if they're perceived as celebrities or leaders. When they fall down, and hopefully most do quickly, it an taken a while but eventually, all that will be left is reputation and in his case, some old songs. Cool old songs and a NASTY rep.
Yep. Sad but true is exactly right.
@@dangerousgirl44 Um..that's not at all true. You're projecting. I believe that 99% of his die hard, rabid fans believe he's innocent, but that's about it.
nacionalcapo his fanatics are delusional. they cannot comprehend the fact that a celebrity could be a different person behind the camera
What is sad is that these people claim these allegations bc this is MJ
I think also admitting to the world that you were in love with a man (and had sexual contact) is also really hard to admit.
daviswendye Mark Brown He dated Micheal Jackson’s niece for 6-7 years. When he was 12-19
MJ as far as Id know, has experienced time and time again on all manners of accusations on sexual conducts and acts. The media was out for him, the various organizations were out for him. But after so many years fighting in the courts, he was free from all charges. Did he Pay the Jury ? did he pay the Judges on the verdict ? OFF COURSE NOT. Many would want to believe in this. If it was, then the world works on a Fairy Tale. NO. This is REALITY !!! Could you Imagine, the moment that MJ's people actually tried to bribe or lobby the courts, the jury or the Judge ? That would have become one of the GREATEST news that has ever been made. It would have been MJ's PR nightmare that could have led to a PR death.
With so many people having EAGLES eye views on the case, Should any one of them tried to lobby for the case, It would have already made all the news in the world. No. There wasnt any lobbying, there wasnt any buying off the Judge or Jury. After both sides presenting all manners of evidence and proof. The judgments were made. MJ was free of all the charges.
It only meant that MJ is and Was NEVER guilty at all. Now, long after the man is dead, comes these 2 dudes accusing MJ of sexual abuse. TAKE A LOOK AT THE TIMING PEOPLE !!! look at the timing.
Its at the ripe moment of time when there is this Sudden SURGE of sexual abuse cases making headlines all over. Harvey Weinstein, R-Kelly, Christiano Ronaldo, Brett Kavanough, David Copperfield. Etc etc.
Im not saying that ALL of them are NOT guilty. But I am saying that it is a Ripe moment for them to get on this new Money making band wagon.
Unless it's false
I agree it must have been extremely had to even get a word out
This is interesting????
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The Leaving Neverland Documentary talking about Michael Jackson’s relationship with Wade Robson & James Safechuk shows Michael to be a man who hurt little children. Many people believe that the two men are lying, and the director Dan Reed recently stated that they are telling the true. Apparently Robson and Safechuk are filling lawsuits against the Jackson estate, while the Jackson estate are trying to sue HBO for the documentary/mockumentary.
In this 2013 interview on the Today Show, Wade Robson tells NBC’s host Matt Lauer that Michael Jackson hurt him between the ages of 7-14.
Body language analysis shows that Robson seems like he is lying about her allegations. He uses emphasizers, emblematic slips and false starts. He makes speech errors and uses the technique of repeated assertions (parrot language). His body language does not make his words, and he engages in non-emphatic denial.
According to renowned Dr.Paul Ekman in his teachings on detecting deception, he explains that people who are deceiving tend to use this micro shoulder shrugs with only one shoulder. This is an a-symmetrical shoulder shrug. A person who’s in line with what they said might still do the shoulder shrug to say I don’t know, but with BOTH shoulders, not just one.
Oprah recently interviewed Robson & Safechuk and supported claims that Michael Jackson did commit those acts.
Michael Jackson had two world renowned court cases both in 1993 and 2003 after Living With Michael Jackson aired. Now 10 years after his death in 2009, there are more accusations regarding what they said was done to them as little boys in the 1990s.
At 4 my abuser/stepfather explicitly told me when we heard my mom knock on the front door was don’t say anything to your mom about this or “will” get in trouble. How many four year olds want to get in trouble. I never said anything till I was a mother of two. My life has been molded around this pain and trauma. It’s not fair to me or anyone who’s been abused in any way.
That's horrible, you have my sincerest sympaties 🙏🏼♥️
I'm so sorry April. How are you doing❤
James Safechuck who was born February 28, 1978 and was 14 in 1992. He
claims it happened to him from 10 to 14 (1988-1992). He claims he had a
wedding ceremony at at the Neverland Train House at the beginning of the
relationship and it happened up on the 2nd floor of the Train House all
the time. One BIG problem with his story. Michael's Neverland Train
House was not built until June 1994 when James was 16 and TALLER than
MJ. lol. So his made up tale came before the Train House was built and
when James was 16. Michael had the Chandler case in 1993 and James was
defending him and said no such thing happened. Not only did he defend
him, when MJ and LM were married in May 1994, they appeared in Bucharest
in August 1994 when James was 16 (there are photos of James carrying
the unbrella for MJ and LM) and he is TALLER than MJ. lol James mother
also came on the trip. Now for LN, he claims MJ did not have contact
with him after he became an adolescent. lol The lies are NEVER ENDING.
The only one's falling for this is those who were not born and can't
follow timelines. That's why James and Wade did this in MJ's death
because they thought no one would know. But MJ was so famous and had so
many fans, they kept up with EVERYTHING MJ. I even have a video on my
channel from October 1993 raid of Neverland, a reporter mentions MJ was
about to build his Train. lol That's how Safechuck got caught in his
lie of repeatedly raped at the train house from 10 to 14 (1988 to
1992). lol You can also check out the real reason James joined the Wade
lawsuit by watching the video on youtube called "Revealed! Why Safechuck
is REALLY Suing Michael Jackson!"
I'm so sorry that happened to you
@@bereal6590 I'm sorry for her story too but she can't project what happened to her on a story UNRELATED to her situation. Wade and James are liars and they are making a mockery out of REAL victims for their own selfish financial gain and it's SICK.
What a lies disaster
I don’t care if he was the parents idea of the best person in the world, they had no business leaving their children with a STRANGER. That’s absolutely ridiculous.
Heather Insey. Michael Jackson's estate won against Wade Robson, Jimmy Safechuck, and HBO on April 27th, 2021.in Los Angeles, California USA 🇺🇸 Case Closed!! Please research carefully many articles. Too bad!!
Famous or Not it should of had someone there thats older or Say No can't stay all Noght
He wasn't a stranger though 🙄 if you look at the evidence MJ was clearly innocent
Exactly. Peoples' judgement in this matter is clouded by the fact that MJ was a "star". If a man down the street asked someone to send their kids over to sleep in his bed people would be horrified.
@@reyisnotamarysue1195I truly believe, Michael was innocent. Still personly he was a stranger and parents should not leave their kids alone with strangers, famous or not, Michael Jackson or an average person. Even if Im sure, Michael did nothing, it could have happened.
Do you know how degrading it is to explain to someone the details of how you were taken advantage of as a young child or as an adult? Anyone who has been abused knows that it is easier to keep silent then to tell someone else, you feel disgusting and humiliated. I completely believe these men! 100%.
There is no doubt Michael did this.
Its like telling a rape victim to forget!
It is obvious that MJ did it. Building a park full of toys to attract attention ...
La Ra - so he invited these young boys to sleep with him for years, and you’re saying not once did he take advantage of any child? hmm. I don’t know
@La Ra Your comment doesn't make sense.
1. They just said in the interview (if you bothered to watch it) that they make no money off of it.
2. Why now? Like they said, they have been going through a long healing process which started after having sons of their own. Also, all of this (the film and now the interviews), as started by the director. HE approached them to make this film which isn't even really about MJ, but about how child sexual abuse doesn't always look the way people generally believe it looks like (children hating it, fighting it). More often they don't dislike the abuse itself and they don't question it. This film shows how it affects the victims in adulthood and how it affects their families who were blind to it while it happened right under their noses.
I never believed them and later it came out they lied for money. Parents made them lie.
They definitely lied for money. Especially Wade. They are broke and need the money.
No those were other guys who were made to lie when they were children (Gavin Arvizo and... idk). These two men decide to do it themselves
It could of happen.. and it may not of happened.. We weren’t there????
@wendyallen5105 That's right but some people are telling lies, the maid called Adrian is a liar
@@nicholasr39 Oh wow, I can't believe you personally know the maid to make that assumption! Small world.
I can’t remember anything when I was 5 years old 😂
Not everyone is as dumb as you.
If a grown man was touching you you’d remember
We really need to prevent our children from seeing entertainers as "other worldly" Nothing good comes from that.
James Edinger. Michael Jackson's estate won against Wade Robson, Jimmy Safechuck, and HBO on April 27th, 2021.in Los Angeles, California USA 🇺🇸 Case Closed!!! Research the entire loss.
Yes, they take idols to another level to almost worshiping them
Idolatry is very dangerous
They are lying through the body language alone.
Shame on their parents who decided because this man was a star, normal rules of caution didnt apply to him?
Nicki Snyder. Michael Jackson's estate won against Wade Robson, Jimmy Safechuck, and HBO on April 27th, 2021.in Los Angeles, California USA. They're just lying!!! Michael won alive, and in death. Yayyyy
His estate might have been successful but there’s no way Michael was innocent. People rarely get falsely accused of abuse at the level that Michael was accused of.
@@murphyr31 ya three decades of searches still found nothing sounds like u don't wanna believe
@@murphyr31Watch with open mind and cross check cases I found many dubious Patrice by prosecutor in 2005 case ruclips.net/video/PAdHNtRdSdE/видео.html
@@peggieudengwuarzuudengwu7531 wining in court doesnt mean it`s real or not
Money,money,money!
James , u forgot that we now have access to the court documents and court transcripts? Ur name isnt in the court transcripts 😂😂
Wh didn't oprah do a weinstein aftershow? Oh, that's right..weinstein is her best friend.
@Kieran Shirley check the comment again, it has something to do with this story
Their mothers said that they never told them about the abuse till they went to therapy in 2013 and realized that they were abused in the same documentary wade mother said on 2009 Michael died she was rejoicing that Michael won't be abusing more children. Hahaha wasn't it so funny how they contradict themselves in the same documentary that meant to expose their truths 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What’s Weinstein got to do with Michael Jackson
@@borninthe70sgaming 😂😂😂😂
I was five years old when I was sexually abused. And I was scared to death. I remember my heart racing really fast and staring at the door hoping that my brother or mother would come looking for me. They never did. For years, I said nothing, and I felt so much guilt. I truly believed that I had done something wrong and that if I said anything I was going to get into trouble. I also believed that he was going to be mad at me and try to hurt me. When I finally got up the nerve to say something, only one relative believed me. The rest of them called me a liar or didn’t say anything at all, which was just as hurtful. To this day, according to most of my family, whatever I say is a lie. If I said the sky was blue, they’d swear it was green. And my abuser, he never had to pay for what he did. He has kids and he’s living his version of happiness probably without a simple thought of me. I actually wonder about that sometimes, if he thinks of me and if he’s sorry. I imagine he’s not because he’s never had to answer for what he did all those years ago. He got away with it. Meanwhile, I’m still dealing with what he did. I’ve been dealing with it since I was five and nobody cares how hard that’s been. There are moments where I don’t think about it and for the most part I’m okay. And then out of nowhere, it’s like a train wreck. I feel scared and guilty, and desperately want for someone to come and save me. As a teen I self harmed with a razor blade and when the school found out and told my family they did not care. I know that because they told me as much. The memories of what happened, the guilt, the shame was too much to bare. The insomnia and PTSD were probably the things that pushed me over the edge. I’m still dealing with that as a grown man, insomnia and PTSD. How is that fair? They say that life isn’t fair for anybody, but I beg to differ. Some people suffer tremendously more than others. I don’t think there’s anything worse than being sexually abused or raped, because when it happens it never goes away. It stays with you for the rest of your life.
Went through this same situation at that age,being told I don’t know what I’m taking about until my stepdad and my grandma’s bf got into a disagreement 7 years later and my My gma’s bf(who did it) tried to get my stepdad out of the picture and said it was him.
@@carmindior41 I’m very sorry that happened to you. And in case you feel otherwise, it was NOT your fault. For me, it was a friend of the family whose care I was left in. Sometimes, it really bothers me that he’s able to walk around free and clear, but there’s nothing that I can do about it except hope that he pays for his horrible crime in the next life, if you believe in that sort of thing. Anyway, take care, and again, I’m sorry for what happened to you. Most of all, I believe you. ❤️🙏
I’m truly sorry for what happened to you -shocked this person has kids and a family -if he was never caught I’m sure there are more victims along the way - I’m so sorry - I truly am I hope you have sought out counseling
Exactly right to this day i suffer severe terror post traumatic stess all abuse began with my mother den onto man i met i sufferer sheer horror ill never forget as long as i shall live how evil my own mother treated me onto have my kids and my x brainwashed dem to hate me im not the better of way i was treated i do. Know dey might not anser here but all will face god one day at judgment i
Antwan Sanders. Michael Jackson's estate won against Wade Robson, Jimmy Safechuck, and HBO on April 27th, 2021.in Los Angeles, California USA 🇺🇸 Research carefully. Liars!!!
Complete and utter fakes
I didn’t know you could remember things at the age of two.
CreativityMafia THIS!!! I already have problems to remember things from last month man
there are people who have that kind of memory. my brother has extremely VIVID memories from when he was 2, hes 38 this year. surprising, but not impossible.
I have one memory as a toddler...one...that memory has stuck with me bcuz it involved sexual abuse.
It’s true some people don’t remember anything from that age but in my case I was in an accident when I was 14 months old and I remember it
I actually remember my whole life from 2 yrs old. I have pictures of me at 2 that I remember and the house we lived in that year. I dont even remember what I did yesterday
Classic grooming predatory behaviour...distanced the boys from their parents...made them believe they were 'special'..groomed the families so they would see nothing wrong in him...threatened the boys if they got found out they and he would go to jail. Also it's funny how as soon as the boys were teenagers he lost interest in them...I really did not want to believe this, but everything adds up now. He had a lot of money and you will probably find he paid a lot of people to stay quiet.
Stfu they lied
Watch neverland firsthand on here.
Nats_M it’s really good to see and hear that there are some few fans out here who can see the truth.
The following is my message to all those deniers - please help spread it - abusers should be called out - whether they be dead or alive.
Have you not heard that he was definitely a pedophile? Look and you will see. Warning - Required -opening of mind and search for brain cell activation - Try - look into Safechuck’s eyes. He doesn’t need to speak. The truth is in his eyes. Robson is telling the truth too. Note when they nod and recognise the experience the other describes - not rehearsed. On the other hand - watch a few Jackson videos when he’s pouring out his little sorrowful childhood stories (which are true - he did have a horrid childhood)- So he knows the pain but he is totally rehearsed and choreographed to hide the part of the story that isn’t true - his love of children as innocent playmates of the Peter Pan - only except near the end - with Bashir - the mask slipped - he took more risks - having the boy in the picture - he was getting sloppy - drug use may have contributed here to the sloppiness - Icarus thought he’d gotten away with it in broad day light - Icarus (your MJ) thought - ‘I can do anything I want,” cause not only had he groomed entire families and parents of young boys for quite a few decades - he’d also groomed all you star struck numpties, of which there seems to be an infinite number of - and now you are all doing his bidding. He’s finished now with young boys - but you are continuing his abuse here on earth for him by denying the Truth. Clap clap - you shower of empty dangerous shells.
tom bath hey thick person they are not lying.
Have you not heard that he was definitely a pedophile? Look and you will see. Warning - Required -opening of mind and search for brain cell activation - Try - look into Safechuck’s eyes. He doesn’t need to speak. The truth is in his eyes. Robson is telling the truth too. Note when they nod and recognise the experience the other describes - not rehearsed. On the other hand - watch a few Jackson videos when he’s pouring out his little sorrowful childhood stories (which are true - he did have a horrid childhood)- So he knows the pain but he is totally rehearsed and choreographed to hide the part of the story that isn’t true - his love of children as innocent playmates of the Peter Pan - only except near the end - with Bashir - the mask slipped - he took more risks - having the boy in the picture - he was getting sloppy - drug use may have contributed here to the sloppiness - Icarus thought he’d gotten away with it in broad day light - Icarus (your MJ) thought - ‘I can do anything I want,” cause not only had he groomed entire families and parents of young boys for quite a few decades - he’d also groomed all you star struck numpties, of which there seems to be an infinite number of - and now you are all doing his bidding. He’s finished now with young boys - but you are continuing his abuse here on earth for him by denying the Truth. Clap clap - you shower of empty dangerous shells.
Victoria So good to see a few heads in this mire of muck. I’m aghast at blind minds.
Robsons full of crap, his wording is excellent though.
how do you know they're lying? just because someone's a celebrity doesn't mean you should defend them to death. that's wrong. you don't know them.@@GoogleLeviticus-
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The thing that I question most is, if this is true why aren't there many more accusers? The man had close unsupervised access to literally hundreds of thousands of kids all over the world on a daily... Yet we have a handful of accusers, of which 1 publicly admitted to lying due after growing up due to pressure from his money seeking father.. the other proven untrue in criminal court and a mother with a history of fraud and then these two with a history of perjury, money seeking schemes and a chip on their shoulder as if the world owes them. They sue a massive estate only after their story cannot be questioned. Hummm...🧐
Because their lies are all finally falling apart. One of the accusers at 31 years old begged and pleaded to dance for a Michael Jackson tribute show. Why would a victim want to dance in front of the whole world to honor his abuser??? Once he got rejected, he went and tried to get money from the estate. When that didn’t work out either and his feelings were hurt, that’s when this mockumentary came about.
Which accuser admit the truth and where can I find it?
@@user-qd6et3xu5n The first one, the one that got that settlement, the father committed suicide. The father was caught on auto tape plotting with another on how he was "pull this off" stating he was gonna humiliate MJ so bad with these false allegations that he sure he'd settle for millions etc, Well after the boy grew up, he split with his father and he wrote a statement to the media that none if it was true. Very hard to find this info bc most of the mainstream media who spent so much time convicting MJ refused to report.
@@user-qd6et3xu5n The statement used to be able to be found on youtube years ago, before youtube became so censored
There have been like 7 how many more do you need? 😆
When my son was about eight he got an invitation to go to Neverland with a friend and the friends father. My first thought was why would the parent of his friend think that eight year old kids would be interested in Michael Jackson? MJ just wasn’t in my sons sphere of interests at that age. I didn’t let him go because I simply thought it was weird it seemed really “off”. That was supposed to be for an afternoon. I am floored that these parents just dropped them off and left for a week. WTH!!! The parents are guilty too!
We were all groomed by mj fame
Both their mothers were money hungry. I don't believe them for one second when they said they didn't know. They must have turned a blind eye because they liked how they were "well-looked-after" by MJ. It was their way to live a comfortable life. I'm so disgusted by these two families beyond words. Just pure utter disgust. Ugh.
Onthehill ........كفو
Agree
I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.
I just say put them on Steve wilkos and give them a lie detector test lol
Blue elephants there are ways to pass a lie detector test without necessarily telling the truth, they aren’t always accurate
@@veronicasawyer7555 yep. Have a pin on your hand and pinch your finger everytime you're gonna lie and the pain will take your mind off of the emotion.
😂😂😂
No need, any normal human being are able to see these guys lying,
I Agree; Cockroaches Are my biggest fear
They will NEVER take one! Not in a million years
"The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the mind's of the masses." Malcolm X
@@hailamark2402 Nope. They hired a new lawyer.
@@hailamark2402 Yes Dan Reed is desperate at this time so I'm sure he has MORE after the videos I put up. 🤣
@@hailamark2402 It's already out. It was on Twitter.
The thing is if I was abused as a kid I wouldn't want a penny of the abuser's cash because the cash is part of the abuser, I'd want justice done.
I guess they can’t really have justice because he has passed away.
Everyone is different and everyone would handle the situation differently. The way you’d handle it mightn’t be the only right way because there is no right way and you don’t know what you’d do in that situation until you are.
@ Lizzie Allen Yes after a physical and psychological trauma so extreme that it took them years to face why would then think about at the lowest point in their life with no money and no prospects " coincidence " no they clearly planned it to get the most out of there lives being broken your an disgrace to all the other idiots trying not to comment
@Unique Bacon Soldier well the " Your a disgrace " bit was motivated by the fact that his comment was extremely idiotic and untrue
You hit the nail on the head
A regular grown man who is not attracted to children would never go out of his way so damn much to start these "friendships" with children. If you've watched this documentary and still think he's innocent than y'all are just delusional
They're dumb ASF u liked to be touched when u were a kid...okay..
benjamin mott exactly
Yeah normally people hang out with people from their age group. Mj hung out with kids
Tehella Cummings You’re a disgusting human being.
Here here!
LIErs
The more they talk, the more they disprove themselves. Train station anyone? They made their bed and they’re going to lay in it.
James Safechuck has pictures of the train station which he took himself. He was there.
@@SPZ909 Everyone was at the train station as it was a TOURIST ATTRACTION. I have a video of 1000'S OF KIDS there. But IT WAS NOT there during his timeline. 🤣
They should sued their parents for leaving them with Micheal.
Margarita Pena they haven’t forgiven their mothers yet.
Margarita Pena they’re working on forgiving their mothers
wtf why would they?? their mothers didn’t abuse them it’s not their fault
Joy Skye why did they left their kids with an adult???!!!
Margarita Pena they should sue you
What I don’t think the interviewer understands is that the non-violent manipulation is horrendously damaging. It’s possibly worse because it’s harder to explain to ourselves and to others. The trap is made in the heart and mind and it’s pretty much impossible to explain to people who’ve never experienced it.
She is very un-prepared and almost lost in her questions. Gayle King you fail.
thats right thats right
Liz King Bradley. Michael Jackson's estate won against Wade Robson, Jimmy Safechuck, and HBO on April 27th, 2021.in Los Angeles, California USA 🇺🇸 😀
@@johnnymeyer4253 Michael Jackson's estate won against Wade Robson, Jimmy Safechuck and HBO on April 27th, 2021.in Los Angeles, California USA 🇺🇸 Research!
@@writerdirect Michael Jackson's estate won against Wade Robson, Jimmy Safechuck and HBO on April 27th, 2021.in Los Angeles, California USA 🇺🇸 😀
They are both trying to garner money from his estate! They are lying .
That's what they're supposed to do
Liers
Everyone says why 10 years later or why now and the same way women take ages to speak out about sexual assult is because there scared of what will happened and im not saying he did it but im just making the answer to what everyone is asking.
It their case it's different, because they both HAD TWO OPPORTUNITIES to speak up - during 1995 and 2005 trials. And they were not asked just "did he sexually abused you?" They were asked hundreds of questions like "did he touch your hair", "did you see him naked?" and so on.
They said: nothing happened. Robson was ab 11 and Safechuck was ab 16 in 1995.
In 2005 Robson was 22, and he didn;t just said nothing happened - he flew from Australia to defend MJ, he called accusations "ridiculous", he was adamant that MJ couldn't do it.
I get victims keep silent. But openly defend "the abuser" in TWO courts? Against other possible victims?
They both lied. It has been proven.
@@GG8476 how was it proved?? Tell me. I honestly want to know. I'm so confused.
lety vazquez just look at the rebuttal evidence is all about the benjamins.
@@Xime_0313 The 2013 case Wade Robson had against the MJ Estate - that got thrown out, with the Judge citing 'no rational fact-finder could possibly believe (Wade) Robson's sworn statements.' This idiot perjured himself on paper/documents (that he submitted to court).
The parents are as much to blame !!! I feel so sorry for children who aren't sufficiently protected by their parents.😭😭
I made friend with their parents because I was sincerely interested in random suburban moms and the interesting details of their lives....
I hear you but Michael Jackson is the one to blame. Poor judgement by the parents not protecting their children but I don't believe they're as much to blame. They SHOULD be blamed for what they did, or rather for what they Didn't do, keeping them away from this man but the sexual abuse is all on Jackson.
@@thomasmarthinussen8978 The only victim in this entire ordeal is Jackson himself. I think any survivor of sexual abuse would be disgusted at these men if they just dug even a little bit into these accusations. It’s completely preposterous.
@@truescares7737 You know for a fact Jackson is innocent?
@@thomasmarthinussen8978 I do. And if you don’t, I don’t blame you. But, once you look into these allegations it’s more than obvious.
James Safechuck claims to have been abused multiple times during the "honeymoon stage" of their relationship in the Neverland Train station. A building that timestamped Getty Images, Associated Press, and various videos of the property prove was built 2 years after the alleged abuse ended.
He bought the ranch in 1988 when James was 9. It was totally during the abuse. James was there as it was starting to become "Neverland'. All facts check out.
Love MJ's music but don't disbelief these proven facts. The boys are not lying.
@fieryheadedgirl The train station was not there until 94. Construction began towards the end of 93.
Alleged abuse ended in 92.
Hiya. Google tells me that the train station was built first. The train tracks itself was up and running (construction completed) in 1994. So, if this boy says there was a little train station there in 1991 and they had sex there, then it could have happened within these dates. @@rasheed9705
@@rasheed9705 yeah! But this person who claims to be a MJ's fan did not do a simple search or she is still in denial about Safechuck lies!
@@rasheed9705 this is the dumbest argument, try to remember the day your parents took you to the diner , whatever your answer is I can just argue
No les creo!
The Cognitive Dissonance is strong on this page. Everyone seems to be a professional psychologist and criminal investigator.
Indeed.
Its called common sense and decency. Try it.
Jaydee OldBoy please look up the definition of cognitive dissonance.
@@beatrixblitzer747 I know the term well, please tell me how you think I'm wrong, then I can correct you.
@@davidevans3175 You think dismissing claims of sexual and psychological abuse is common sense, and decent...?
Hahahahaha this dude really said he watched thriller when he was 2 🤣🤣🤣
Lot of little kids in our neighnborhood watch thriller. Did the michael dance ....yes as little as 2...yes!
I actually dance Billie Jean when i was 2...
Actually i fought world war 2 when i was 2 months
@@moroccanevil lmfaooo
moroccanevil 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I never trusted what they said, because the story never stayed the same. 💯
Apparently you have never been abused, I was abused at 6 years old, you think I told anyone? I didn't even understand what was going on, I felt uncomfortable but I kept on going to his house because he was nice, sweet and played with me, and my abuser was not famous, he was not my idol, I was an only child my parents worked all day, my grandmother was suppose to watch me but she was old and no one would of ever even imagined anything like that at the time. The abuses stopped only when I brought a little friend with me to his house, she has always been warned by her parents that no one should ever touch her private parts and she was a few years older then me, my parents never warned me, sex was never something my parents would ever mention. My friend was the one that grabbed me by the hand and dragged me downstairs and she told her parents, I was still confused. Police came and arrested him. It is hard to admit that someone abused you, you feel ashamed. If you never had this experience your opinion is worth zero, nothing, nada.
What you said doesn't mean that they are talking the truth
@@shawnjosiah6268what you say does not mean they are lying either. You are so gullible, grow up
@@arrivagabry Stop the bs. There are too much lies from their side. Wade and Safechuck are liars, end of the story. Bring every "proof" that you want, i'll debunk it.
@@arrivagabry
I support REAL victims like yourself, BUT I will NEVER support these two huge, horrible LIARS. ( I hope I made that clear to everybody ).
Real victims don’t VOLUNTARILY go to court and DEFEND their so-called “abuser”.
Real victims don’t PUBLICLY defend their “so-called” abuser with Tributes even 10 years after his death.
Real victims don’t want to get married to his fiancé at his so-called “abuser’s” ranch because it was a place of beauty & solitude.
Real victims don’t do the epilogue in a book about your so-called “abuser” after his death and say “ he was pure and a great person”. Stop with YOUR excuses for these 40 year old liars and extortionists. I would never defend ANYONE supposedly “abused” me 100s of times; I don’t give a damn if it was my brother, father or mother.
I’m sick of people like you giving these two 40 year old entitled MEN an EXCUSE for lying on a deceased man , when they didn’t do when he was alive . Their opportunity was on the WITNESS stand. They are now lying for MONEY, not justice.
You done ranting?
@@apoplexic23 Ranting? How about telling the truth.
Body language from them is showing obsession of Michael jackson and entitlement of money for control.
i cannot believe this is not getting believed. if these were women coming out about a male singer everyone would believe it and take it for face value
and thats a problem, you only got the word of the accusers to believe them, I did my own research and the credibility of wade and james are VERY low
Its very simple why I wouldn't believe and I'm not a Michael Jackson fan , they want justice and what is that, lots and lots of money, if they said we don't want money and didn't sue for money I'd believe them , but they already have for hundreds and millions, plus there not credible at all, one defended him in court, while they were adults not kids, now the flood gates are open for anyone to accuse michael Jackson to make money cause he's dead and no1 can defend him :D
@@Badrihio What are you talking about? James has never done anything to anyone. Wade did indeed lie and it has been stated a million times, this type of abuse takes years to face. He has addressed this and it's addressed in detail in the documentary.
What else? Gossip from people who hate him? Once again, fans collect gossip and made up stories that were put out by Jackson's attorneys.
I got to say a lot who to believe, just as the same time R Kelly is being accused stardom can struck people but to think as not the same ways but for the unbelievable ways its crazy, what about Harvy Weistien
It's taken 20 odd years for people to start believing the victims of r Kelly and Weinstein etc women are never instantly believed no one is when a beloved powerful figure is involved
I'm really worried about James :(. He looks so devastated. I hope his family care about him and he is not alone :( Both of them have to believe that many people around the world support them and believe in their story :(
Ewa Lechowicz they absolutely need to keep a close eye on him
Ewa Lechowicz he’s fine. You’re absolutely projecting
Talk for yourself partner!!!!!!
He's actually fine...tried to get a book... IT FLOPPED!!!
James seems more affected than wade
I gotta say that it is really hard not to fault the parents, at least a little bit.
Why are people more incensed about the parents than the actual child abuser?
The parents are just as guilty as the pedophile. They basically gave him the "take my kid because you are Michael Jackson" card.
Parents were stupid....kids were trusting...jackson was the actual problem. He was smart and even lisa Marie and some of the Jackson's in previous interviews said he was very manipulative.
I believe these men and it's a damn shame because when I watch this man perform..he was an amazing artist...very sad.
Since he started show business so very young...and was so gentle and trusting and adorable....I wonder who did this to him. I 100 percent believe someone was molesting him.
You are right! It was all about the money
Tempty65 parents are not as guilty as the child abuser. You are a disgusting human to even say that.
He said he was AWARE at 2 years old 😂😂😂
some ppl are
Almost same age of my first remembrance. My mother told me I must have been around two and a halt. A friend of mine remembered the pattern of the wallpaper in his room. The family moved from that house when he was 18 months old.
I was as aware as I am now. But it's rare af. I def don't want to believe it.
There are people who claim to remember their birth...
Aristotelezz perverts ewwwwwwww gross!
I woulf argue with somebody i dont believe this
In cases like these I always think about the motive,they want justice or money?
Money is Justice, it's called compensatory Justice.
Someone is molested you and you were friend with him until his death,right? YOU VISIT HIM AS AN ADULT YOU WORK FOR HIM,YOU VISIT THE PLACE THAT YOY HAVE BEEN MOLESTED AND YOU WANT TO GET MARRIED THERE YES VERY LOGICAL
Money after MJ is dead They know he can’t defend himself… not cool!
Defends him in court, then sues his estate when he’s six feet under, case gets rejected, then resorts to assassinating his character in a documentary.
Luis Hern defended him when they manipulated for years as a child. Grow up .
@@Xdaddyslilmonster do your research Ms "i know it all"
Dominique Garcia lmao ur an idiot if this was real you would report it sooner and theres 0 evidence of everything just words
Wow what valuable evidence
Maybe i should just say that the earth is square and have 0 evidence to back it up too
Also who describes abuse with absolutely 0 emotions ... cough cough
Luis Hern right
@@Xdaddyslilmonster after being abused why would he have continued to praise and him and dance to his music. He insisted on being part of Cirque's michael jackson perfomancce and wanted to do a tribute for him on 'so you think you can dance'. Wade's stories on the documentary were different to what he had told in the 2016 deposition. Its all lies
basically if true, they were star struck and became manipulated overtime (groomed) . Sad.
Makes sense. Happens everyday in Hollywood.
Definately. I just don't think Macaulay will ever come forward bc he doesnt want to hurt his kids.
Courtney Coley he won’t come forward because nothing happened
Well in that case they possibly got the most easy abuse possible ..there are kids abused much more grossly
both of u suppoze to be in jail for lieing under oath in court.
Both of u suppoze to stick to what u said in court..
Anyway money is the root of evil
They should just take a lie detector test
Dude have memory from 2 years old lol
Let’s just imagine hearing all of the cases of the ‘victims’ about a normal man who lived in your neighbourhood?! As it’s not just these two men that have told similar stories is it? Why did MJ always have a young boy by his side?
The difference is the normal man in your neighborhood would do it secretly. MJ never hid anything and even publically made everyone know he brought children in Neverland. Why would a person who has so much interest in abusing children make themselves vulnerable like this? The first sign of pedophilia is he wont make himself vulnerable like this but MJ even spoke about it.
Still doesn't cut the mustard somehow... As that's why some people keep their crimes/illegal dealings in plain sight....Think about it???? What better way for a loved celebrity???? You cannot justify any of this behavior as normal.....NONE OF IT!!!! It's simply because we are blinded by the famous people......A sad but true fact! I loved MJ but I have had to face facts now.....😔💔
elva136 it was a tactic
@@elva136 watch "abducted in plain sight" documentary. it has some similarities with this. It's shocking and crazy
@@kensyskye8965 I am very similar to Michael in many, many ways for many of the same reasons. I love animals and always had a special affinity with children. I could relate to children on their level and that is why they adore me. I could play with them for hours on end. My bed is where we read stories and watch tv. I am 56 and never really emotionally grew up. People perceive me as weird and different. I look at things very differently in life. I think very differently and approach things in life very, very differently. I am definitely not a child molester.
Such a lot of people chose teaching as their vocation because of their love for children. Their jobs are to spend the majority of their time with other peoples' children. Are most or all teachers especially primary (elementary) school teachers pedophiles? Strange how people must always interpret and warp innocence because their own minds can't grasp it.
Children in show business have a much higher chance of being exploited and abused. Any abuse is traumatic and heartbreaking. When you look at statistics, almost 100% of child molesters experienced abuse also as a child. It is highly likely that Michael Jackson suffered at the hands of handlers, producers, etc.. as a child in the industry.
I saw a long video about him being abused as a small child by QJ
@@zainaraqs Sorry, but who is Q.J.?, if you don't mind sharing. I could not find video, thanks! 🙂
@@joletty1793 Quincy Jones
@@benitotorres3157 Thank you!!!
The media gives ALL of the so called victims of MJ credibility. They even protect their OBVIOUS LIES to help them. It's really funny too. I can still remember MJ's trial in 2005 when the Arvizo's took the stand and jurors WERE LAUGHING. It was really funny when they claimed MJ abducted Gavin AFTER the Bashir documentary aired and THAT'S when the assault occurred for the FIRST TIME. There abduction lie was PROVEN with receipts of them OUT DINING during their abduction. 🤣
They couldn't turn the Arvizo story into a documentary because people would have been laughing. I would have liked to have seen the part of them claiming they tried to escape Neverland in MJ's hotair balloon. 🤣 They couldn't turn the Chandler case into a documentary either with his tape phone conversation saying "If I go through with this I WIN BIG TIME....I WILL GET EVERYTHING I WANT." Since these 2 didn't have credible stories, they decided to INVENT one with Wade and James since there's NEVER went under cross examination.
I guess the Train House that NEVER existed would be the laughing stock of James' testimony since in his documentary he put such a focus on it with the wedding and repeated fake assaults in the invisible Train House. 🤣Wade's would be asked about appearing in a criminal trial now claiming he LIED in a CRIMINAL TRIAL when he stated MJ NEVER TOUCHED HIM. I have NEVER seen a molestation trial where the victim gets on the stand to LIE in a criminal trial risking going to prison for 5 years for Perjury. I would like to see the parts where he and his wife were at MJ's Neverland or what he called "sacred land" in 2007 filming. I guess the defense attorney could call it "Return to Neverland."🤣
I would also like to see the letter James sent to MJ's Estate wanting to do a tribute to him in Vegas called One. You do realize his accusation came AFTER he was rejected then sued the Estate for a billion dollars. 🤣 Or Wade participating in a dance routine with Janet at the 2009 MTV Award. I would also like to include the write up he did for MJ's Opus in 2009 where he said MJ is such a caring person and said he is "enchanting the HEAVENS."
The LieDoc video I just posted should answer all your questions on these 2 liars. I made it a comedy because IT IS. 🤣 We should all be laughing.
These dudes clearly lying. Wish we could fact every statement
sleeping with children in bed 🤮
@@kkkkkk-sj3wuNot even the same bed, and If you see something wrong in this, You are disgusting. Sleeping is not sex
Take a shot every time this man says "on tour" 😂😂
Looolll
Hahaha...
Their mothers said that they never told them about the abuse till they went to therapy in 2013 and realized that they were abused in the same documentary wade mother said on 2009 Michael died she was rejoicing that Michael won't be abusing more children. Hahaha wasn't it so funny how they contradict themselves in the same documentary that meant to expose their truths 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL
Or ‘otherworldly’
I’m sorry, I don’t believe either one of these guys AT ALL.
Natural intuition can’t help but say they’re lying.
If you do a some deep research in their lives and parents, it’ll be even more clear
You don't believe because you're a weak minded MJ Stan.
agree.. what child remembers age of 2..and if this happened I blame the parents..
Alot of people are blinded because they see MJ as a God and refuse to believe he is capable doing something so disgusting. A lot of fans are like those boys's parents. They're star struck and think he wouldn't do anything. I know what it's like to not be believed with sexual assault.
@Candice Lynn I praised my 3rd grade teacher. I thought he really liked me and cared about me. He constantly lied to my parents that I wasn't doing the work needed to get me to stay after class. I thought that's just because he wanted to be with me because he liked me. I didn't have friends and my home life wasn't the best. I didn't dare speak up because I was worried it was shameful and I didn't want to get anybody in trouble and in a sick way I liked the way it felt like he cared about me. It really didn't click with me till I was an adult what had happened. Like my brain blocked it out. I don't know my age when it happened. I don't remember much but those few details I shared. I remeber his name and face. And how he would rub me and a few others backs and chests during school. So if they get a few details wrong, I completely understand. Your brain has a funny way of trying to protect you and sometimes that means remembering information wrong or just blacking it out. I also relate to him praising and loving Michael Jackson in protecting him. Because you're so confused on what is happening. I would have protected my 3rd grade teacher. But fortunately he went to prison when I was in high school because another kid came forward. Something I was too chicken to do. So my point also goes to show that just because most of those kids who have been with Michael Jackson say nothing happened, doesn't mean that nothing really happened. They could be too ashamed or scared to come forward.
Liars.
Its vey easy to accuse someone when the guy passe away? Why they iin t talk about when mukael was alive i don t believe it
They did, you just ignored it
Survivor of abuse here. Totally believe them both.
M CB same 🙋🏽♀️ this is what abusers do
It’s hard for someone to come out
Took me 20 years to speak out. I was also in denial. I thought it was my fault as it wasn't physically forced on me. My abuser is now in jail for 14 years and I am finally starting to repair my life.
M CB lucky you your abuser is in prison mine now :/
why wait 10 yrs after hes dead to no longer defend himself im not saying who i believe im just stating a fact, this seems fishy to me
I fell deeply for James because he looks devastaded not only his voice but his eyes. He was such a beautiful child and gorgeous adult. I hope he can find peace with therapy and love of his friends.
Here's a proof video that the "documentary" is fake! ruclips.net/video/7TQ9Tpc_-NU/видео.html
They are actors...
He is a good actor. He looks devastated because the director told him to look that way. He might also feel bad that he is LYING.
he looks devasteded because he knows he is lying and he is scared that he will not control himself and say the truth!
Hes a Total LIAR! If you cant tell hes lying, I feel sorry for you! They are being PAID Alotof $$$, for their acting skills. Smh
I think they are extremely brave to tell the truth since they are both in entertainment business
I’m sorry, but I can’t believe these two men recalled experience! I was a victim of countless attempts, I’d never go back and put myself in the same situation again! No disrespect to anyone but there are more to meet the eyes here!
Michael Jackson was acquitted of all charges facts so these two mfs were trying to get some fame by making up these allegations and they sue him for money
Your sorry?
The guy was a pervert
Shame on you for not listening to someone else's experience.
Want to know a fun fact?
The guy who created Peter pan was a freak too.
@@alexashworth3119 this is not experience! It’s black mail! If someone violated you once, would you come back for more! These guys are extortionists! I know how I felt when someone tried to do things to me! Let alone go back for more, more like waiting for a payday! And what about the parents of these two? They’re no better! Laying a trap for a payday looks like to me!
Your abuse experience was different from his
Not hard for me to understand as I was abused by a teacher from age 11 to 13, and was afraid to tell my parents for fear of my Dad killing the teacher. Couldn’t handle all of that in my immature mind. Finally told my mom when I was in my 30s and she was devastated. My Dad passed away when I was in my 20s, so he never knew.
OMG!! How did this happen?! I'm so sorry to hear this 😔
At three years old a very trusted ( & famous) uncle was 'baby-sitting' me (while mom was at the doctors) and violated my 'privacy' - terrifying & hurting me = until his wife saw, began screaming and
got hysterical! I didn't remember this ~ until I was a grown woman with three daughters! It was most
shocking when that memory 'returned'.!... THEN I finally knew why I was 'different' in how I reacted to
to 'life' in general! Altho they had moved far away, I did make contact and was able to to let him know
that God gave me the grace to actually forgive him, & I told him that God would also forgive him, and
that Jesus went willingly to the cross and shed His blood = to pay for the very sins we commit. By the
time the knowledge of that incident had 'returned' I had myself learned the reality of the scripture that promises "The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus, our Lord."
That is right out of the Holy Bible's book of Romans ch.6, vs. 23! In the same book in ch. 5 it tells us
"But God commendeth his love toward us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." vs. 8.
That covers it all.
@@carolmartin2503 I'm so sorry this happened. I'm veré encouraged by your story 🥰
If my kid told me someone else was sexually molesting my son or daughter, he/she is on my hit list right there and then! No mercy!
Ewe a teacher 🥴🫤 glad I can’t relate. It’s always the person you least expect
Interesting that Wade says he gets triggered and leaves hearing an MJ song as I’ve seen video in my research of all this of him teaching classes on choreography to Michael Jackson songs plus he pushed HARD to be in the Las Vegas Michael Jackson ONE show. Also he gave interviews where he was desperately to show himself as Michael’s protege. Hmmmm.
Yes im sure the maids that also saw him showering with kids was also mad because they didn't get casted in the vegas show.
@@Xplode101 right maybe she need money seeing as Mike is suing her for 1.2 mill n he dead ..its sad ppl cant see he a monster
@@teshuahyisreal158 that maid was fired from neverland for stealing. She later attempted to sue MJ for "wrongful dismissal" that is when she herself was counter sued. She is unreliable just like all the rest. It is sad some people cant see MJ was innocent.
@@reyisnotamarysue1195 she stole a drawing micheal threw in the garbage
@@teshuahyisreal158 her and another alleged witness were found guilty of stealing items from neverland totaling up to 50,000 dollars in value. She and her husband had were also found to have defrauded a relative's children of money from thier estate.
She also recieved thousands for selling her story to the tabloids
They are full of you know what
The guy in the white shirt lied on the stand should be charged. 22:26
two liars only.
No matter what happened, we all know Michael should not have been alone with children anywhere in the house. That is just common protection for him and for the children. Actually, these children guests to Neverland should have always had their parents or their adult guardian with them.
Watching thriller at the age of two. Did I hear correctly
Tino Turton its all lies.
They up here looking stupid 😂
I saw Thriller at age 3. Freaked me out to be honest.
Yes sound wrong... like he have good memory at a young age
You can tell that they are lying
Didn’t one these dudes admitted that he lied? What am I missing here? 🤔 🤦🏿♂️
@GoogleLeviticus19-29 Where is the link?
It bothers me that the one guy “remembers” at 2 years old listening to MJ? And he started dancing “when he could walk”, at 2? Sorry, sounds like planted info by mommy and/or daddy.
Great parents (slow clap)
Monica Merino honestly
you should check their LEAKED VIDEO which exposed them as frauds, they cheated you all! check their leaked video for yourself, dont let your sympathy for victims to be misused by anyone who has the motive of money : leavingneverlandtruth.blogspot.com/p/documentariesvideos-that-exposes-truth.html
Wade dated Michael's niece Brandi Jackson for 8 years as a teen. How does Michael groom Wade to be his lover while he's dating Brandi? Why did Dan Reed pretend she didn't exist?
What would Brandi be able to add to the story? That we shouldn’t believe Wade become cheated on her? That she doesn’t believe it happened because Michael is her uncle? She’s irrelevant unless she witnessed the molestation.
She has everything to do with it. If Michael’s “grooming” meant that he was supposed to dislike women, him and Brandi wouldn’t have dated. He also wouldn’t have slept around with Brittney Spears and God knows who else. Sounds like someone putting his own failures on a man who gave him and his family everything, whom also isn’t here to defend himself.
jarrett battle That’s not part of Michael’s grooming, as you call it. That was part of Michael’s jealousy. He was so insecure and manipulative at his core, he felt the need to discourage underage boys from having crushes on women. The grooming was when he isolated them from their parents, bribed they’re parents with gifts and money(Latoya admitted she saw checks with James name on them), and convinced those boys that the sexual relationship they had was normal.
Since you’re convinced of Michael’s guilt, look up Wade’s 2016 deposition, then watch Leaving Neverland again. Also, look up Joy’s 1993 and 2016 deposition. To say Michael was jealous would make Brandi’s story a lie (and, seeing how she speaks, I don’t believe she is). This stuff isn’t old news; why does everyone who knows Michael and Wade, defend Michael?? Everyone has said the same thing about Wade: that he’s an opportunist. I’m not goofy enough to believe that even Joy Robson would leave her kids with Michael.
@@TatiSaysSo What kind of person lies about being forced to testify in court when they weren't? Wade Robson was not forced to testify like he said in the movie. The private investigator confirmed it. He's a proven liar .
the only problem with this they make millions with interviews
Y’all believe this ? LMFAOOOOO
I have so many mixed feelings about this. If any of this is true, I'm sickened by it. I also blame the parents. Never leave your child alone to sleep with a grown adult. However if all of this is fabricated, I'm sickened by the fact that an innocent man lays in his grave accused of something he didn't do.
Sounds real to me.
The parents knew😔😒
Give them a lie detector test and then we’ll talk about it
Why do you still doubt it when many victims are sharing their story. It was always sick for a grown man to have sleepovers with other people's small male children
I feel the exact same way....mixed feelings...one side of me feels he wouldn't hurt a fly due to his soft spoken, shy, nice kind demeanor but then i look at the obsession he had with little white boys then the fact that he changed his entire appearance to look like a white man. Its the obsession with whiteness that kinda had me suspicious.
Everyone seems to be getting on Michael Jackson but what about the parents? How are they not held accountable as well. You don't leave a 7 year old with a grown man
Freddy Tolbert because it wasn't their fault I mean micheal Jackson invited them to his house who would of said no. and there parents didn't know he was a peado either and if it's anyone's fault it's micheals if the stories are true anyway but tbh I think I believe micheal the most .
You do if you know the grown man well. Who do you think people leave their kids with when they get a babysitter?
not only that buy he was 5 when he met mj
@@annlanders978 usually an older child
Good point but I think the fact that Michael came across so childlike, innocent, and asexual probably made the parents comfortable, not to mention I'm sure he was grooming the parents as well as the kids. And their kids were so happy with him. There probably were many parents who did not allow their children to stay at Michael's but for some reason the parents of these two trusted him. Alas.
Funny how Wade realized that after Michael's net worth went sky high
I don't know about you but I don't remember s*** at 2 years old LOL
“And when you hear one of his songs? Is it a trigger for you?” Ya it triggers me into doing the thriller dance and start moonwalking in my socks lol
😂😂😂 exactly
Lol
Their mothers said that they never told them about the abuse till they went to therapy in 2013 and realized that they were abused in the same documentary wade mother said on 2009 Michael died she was rejoicing that Michael won't be abusing more children. Hahaha wasn't it so funny how they contradict themselves in the same documentary that meant to expose their truths 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lololol
Haha!
Petition to send these two to Mars.
😂😂😂😂😂
IKR this is the shitiest bull i hve ever heard
Ain’t it better to send Michael Jackson’s corpse to space instead of the victims?
I’m sorry, did he say two years old? No you didn’t.
As someone who had worked with children and juveniles that had experienced sexual abuse, I can tell you that this is the exact way lots of those children have described these terrible experiences. Everything they say is something I've heard victims of sexual abuse say before more than once.
I was a lifelong Michael Jackson fan until I saw this documentary, and it shocked me to the core. I always thought he was a weird guy and too touchy and strange with kids... but I loved hiw music.
After watching the documentary and these interviews I can't listen to any MJ songs anymore.
I am telling you - I've heard these exact words and stories many times before... Lots of people don't step forward about childhood abuse until they're in their 40s due to shame and embarrassment, due to people not believing them, due to not wanting to re-live the nightmare.
And you try to keep it down but it will eventually boil over because pain ALWAYS resurfaces like a balloon that you're trying to push under water.
This is common behavior and these guys speak just like the people I used to work with.
This is so heartbreaking and sad. And scary.
Joy Robson spoke on the "bed" thing in the 1993 Investigation of Michael Jackson. I have Wade's OWN MOTHER discussing this in 1993 investigation and I WILL LOAD what she said for you to hear it. She said "I've been in Michael's room when the kids are there and they play so hard that they fall asleep on the bed....nothing more to it." This was DURING the 1993 investigation of Michael when Wade was 10 years old. Wade was also questioned and he stated about those chandler case and he said IT'S "SICK" because he knows for a "FACT" MJ wouldn't do anything like that. Michael Jackson's investigation lasted 14 months when the statue of limitation to process as a crime to 1998. So Wade wants us to believe MJ was STILL molesting him from 10 to 14 when he stated it's SICK???
Stop lying. How can it be the "exact way" when both of these men participated in Michael Jackson's CRIMINAL investigations??? Wade as an ADULT walked into Michael Jackson's CRIMINAL TRIAL and said he did nothing. So do "victims" testify on behalf of their accusers in a criminal courtroom? NO!
Look when it comes to MJ I've always said I don't know whether he did all the things he was accused of or not, but he was found not guilty in a court of law. All the "proof" people have is stories that Michael isn't here defend himself against. And if he did hurt kids in any way then of course it's horrible, but it's also horrible if MJ didn't do those things and people label him a pedophile.
I completely believe these guys are telling the truth
@@charellesexii6555 sure you believe them. Not! Are you a bot? There is NO WAY at this point anyone would believe them with all the LIES exposed. It's all about MONEY now and I can PROVE it. 🤣
james just seems so broken😢
Yes he does a complete wreck & it's heartbreaking
There is a huge difference between Wade and James. Wade has forgiven himself what he told Oprah and his therapy is much further than his. I also can't stand how James suffers, it's so sad and hurtful. I think he wasn't ready for all of this situation, interviews, etc. Wade is fighting and James looks like he would like to go home what I completely understand. I have no doubts he still loves Micheal when he says he does:(
Or Wade is a sociopath who has no remorse slandering a dead man's name and James is crumbling under guilt, who knows...
Yes, James breaks my heart in his interviews. Im afraid that he will commit suicide someday.
Yeah he's not even an actor. People can't act that good. I feel for this James dude.
@ 11:04 he said they were in another part of Cali but earlier he said they went to the Grand Canyon. I’m not from America but I’m pretty sure that’s in Arizona. 🤷🏿♂️
They don't even know how to lie 😂
It’s not unheard of to go to the Grand Canyon while visiting California
MOONWALKER FOREVER lmfao I’m chortling at 3:00 am pls send help
Its very common to go from Cali to Grand Canyon and Las Vegas, especially for tourists...because taking buses to go to both places is the cheaper route.
@@Yahuah222 I lived in California. I can confirm it's a very long drive. It's not just something you go spend 4 hours at and go back.