Its people were able to see it all on first glance, the videos would be around 3 hours long ngl. Its so much in mural to breakdown and discuss. Oda really showed that he never wasted a single chapter in this story. Everything is connected from start to finish and he aint finished yet.
Vegapunk might've been right not to point fingers too quickly because the Ancient Kingdom's utopia might have some dirty laundry that Joyboy was either not aware of or worse to sustain itself.
What I think happened is that the people of the 20 Kingdom come from Slaves of the first world with the Ancient Kingdom being the original rulers of the first world. Ultimately I think King of the Ancient Kingdom is not only a decendant of the King of first world but both are the Xebec/Blaxkbeard of their eras
@@sissitOoO Also anyone who is D., basically anyone related to the half or crescent moon. Figarlands may be descendants of that group as well (not necesarily D.), also many D are allies with the world government.
Did anyone else think of Enies Lobby with the hole going down and the building maybe resembling the old ruin city there? There's still the question of why Enies Lobby is perpetually bathed in sunlight out of all places in OP.
yess truee, maybe it literally goes to hell, like a portal to the underworld, the god of the forest could be an ancient weapon that wove its magic (shot a hole through planet) and opened up to the ancient demon gods of the first world.
Many theories saying the One Piece is actually there as well. If not that, at least some huge connection to Nika must be present there. Not many places are surrounded in perpetual light, I think Imu's room, Laboon on the inside ... Enies Lobby.
Maybe the hole is entrance like in Jules Verne journey to the center of earth and the continuous sunlight is due to the hole leading to a mini sun like in Jules verne
Robins about to get kidnapped so hard Not only are Gunko and Shamrock planning on kidnapping the kids that happen to be at her location. They're about to bring in ANOTHER holy knight, and robin is about to figure out everything.
The god of the land mentioned was probably a Lunarian considering the fire snake, and Lundaians were a “god” race before they were taken out, and Imu is definitely the mentioned forest god. Also, the word used is deified, as in made themselves out to be gods, which is definitely the early celestial dragons.
Ok so heres what im Seeing beside the main key points. The flowing boat like "enels" in the center right along with seems to be a person shooting "lighting" . Second franky is literally looking like emmeth from the wide view is telling us something. Maybe im looking to hard but hey.
Dorry : the only thing the spear of elbaf cant pierce is the bloodstained serpent! Something along those lines he said that. I like the theory that the serpent is the red line. It means the red line is just red cause it was stained by the blood of the first world.
People getting confused by the mention of the God of the Land and God of the Sea but people who liked Skypea probably remember that those gods were mentioned during the Nolan stuff. I don't know how you could interperet the First World mural as anything but resource extraction. Like how much more on the nose does Oda need to be then drawing people literally going down into the earth on an elevator and returning with energy or resources. I feel like too many people getting caught up in literal interpretations of the Full and Crescent Moons. The only time a Moon has been referenced by someone in the time period before was when Toki talked about the "Moon unaware" awaiting the Dawn. So the different types of Moons could represent people with a different level of awareness of the struggle for freedom against whatever forces have been seemingly trying to suppress humans since as far back as 900 years ago. Bro the first two ages are talking about the creation of the Red Line and the creation of the Grand Line. I think that Emu created the devil fruits as a cheap knock-off of whatever power the Ancient Kingdom had and it angered the Sea God who then cursed the fruit eaters and created the Grand Line in their anger. All of this lines up with the 3rd age aka the current age ending in "the will meet" because the Red Line and the Grand Line need to be destroyed/removed for the All Blue to become a reality and then people would no longer be easily controlled because of how separated in the world they are. The creation of the Red Line meant the people in the East and West could no longer meet and the creation of the Grand Line meant people of the North and South could no longer meet. This makes it seem like the promise JoyBoy failed to fulfill from his apology letter was not in fact just making sure Momo and Shirahoshi could meet but something more because they are both in the 3rd Age panel so if they were the promise it would be talking about the promise was already fulfilled not wondering if the promise will still be kept like it is now. The first panel mentioning the world always on fire is talking about the world burning either because of oil or some resource extraction. Remember the Ancient Kingdom was even more advanced than what we saw on Egghead Island so think of how much resources we strip from the world now in real life and imagine how much worse it would have been for the Ancient Kingdom to maintain its technology. That is what I believe is happening with the people being shown going down an elevator and coming back up with what looks like energy(or the resources for energy) in their hands The 3rd Panel is not about the past. It is a prophecy about what is to come, so the Sun in Imu's hand is either the All Flame bc the WG somehow gets to it or steals it or it is a Mother Flame that has been improved enough to be another All Flame. Ripley mentions that the Giants have never in their history allied with other races on the scale in the mural before, which implies it is something that has not happened yet, especially considering the Giants are like the only race we have seen that have decent records of their own race from those times so as a teacher Ripley would know. The fact that in the 3rd World we see Emu represented as a big shadow figure probably means that the other two Shadows are the "gods" of the 2nd and 1st world and since mu is super powerful but not a literal god I think it can be seen as each World had a ruler that is being referred to as a god similar to how the ruler of Skypea is called god as well. I think there is a distinction being made here between a person being called "god of the forest" or "god of the land" and Sea God and Sun God. I think "god of the ..." is a title for the ruler of the age similar to "god" as ruler of Skypea.
Imagine Oda goes deeper in history and also put some mesopotamian anunnaki alien story or beliefs in the one piece story aliens with wings from space that would be crazy cool
I think Thiller Bark Arc and the Kage Kage Fruit is really important now. Moria/Brook explains that the shadow is basically their second souls. Imu and the gorosei might actually be beings that use their shadows to transform into their true forms and have control of their second souls.((Thus not devil fruits). But joyboy/Nika died, and their shadows can't exist without light so they are somehow nerfed/unable to be their true selves always. So this is why they want the sun god power in their control or something close to it aka "The Mother flame" to be eternal. And if you think, then why would the world gov/Imu kill Joyboy back then? Joyboy rose against them first for not liking their ideals of being controlled and they killed him for the greater good of their motives. But when devil fruits came around and they heard a Nika Nika fruit was out there, they wanted it now that the fruit didn't have a host to dictate its will/personification of freedom. But unfortunately they gotta deal with Luffy who wants the be the most free person. Imu isn't keep track of Luffy because of him being a threat, but for them keeping track of their end goal which is the power.
First war, SadBoy like leader and Nika separated the surviving slaves, SadBoy left behind to safeguard the passage, he sent Noah to the bottom of the sea, Nika went with Maxim to the moon. Imu stole SadBoy's power. Second war, JoyBoy brought the moon people to the surface with the arc Maxim, he tried, but failed to bring the Fishmen back to the surface as well, that's why he apologised. JoyBoy died, but Imu could not steal his power. Third war oh boy oh boy oh boy, what would be upon us i hopefully nothing but greatness. New SadBoy and JoyBoy rise with almost the same power as their previous counterparts. Hopefully they will meet again. (the heroes, the former slaves, the seas as redline will have holes, the lands as we will have the bridges ...)
the undying flame was originally the sungods power which he seperated from himself to give light to the people The onepiece is the undying flame When luffy finds the onepiece and gets the undying flame. the Nika fruit will be in full power and can finally take down Imu
I’m gonna guess for a devil fruit to recycle you actually need a live fruit with fruit for the devil fruit to respawn as we seen with the snow snow fruit
The First World: "The Earth burned in endless flame, and in the hearts of men burned with desire. From whispered prayers, the Sun God rose, beckoned by the enslaved who reached for the forbidden star. The God of the Land was enraged. With a serpent of fire, they cast the world into ruin. Darkness fell. Death reighned. They would not meet again." In the first version of the world, the God of the Land would enslave mankind and force them to do his bidding that burned the Earth, which envolves a "Forbidden Star" that the humans would eventually aspire and achieve with the help of the Sun God as he appears from the prayers and wishes of those enslaved. This is the first version of Nika, The Liberator, and likely not a Devil Fruit user but a full manifestation just like how the 5 Elder Stars are not Devil Fruit users or could have been just a person who manifested rubber powers/toon force from his intense desire and stepped up against the God of the Land. He would bring smiles and laughter to the oppressed. With the desire of men to be free from their shackles and to explore the world, a liberator came for them, which angered their oppressor, the God of the Land. And with his dominion over land he would separate men to millions of islands and raise a giant piece of land that would circle the entire planet like a giant serpent making it impossible for mankind to be free as they would be landlocked and unable to safely sail the sea due to the Red Line fuckin the weather and climate althroughout the world. As it rose, it moved tectonic plates and carried molten rock and fire with it, literally burning the earth. As for the Forbidden Star, I wouldn't know for certain what happened to it. It may have been used by a particular group of mankind that founded the Ancient Kingdom and developed technology centuries beyond as a result of meddling and studying the star. After the Red Line rose, both gods would likely battle and might've both died as a result according to "They would not meet again." Buuut.... [Second World] The Second World: "A breath stirred in the abyss. The God of the Forest wove their magic, nurturing its devils, while the Sun lit the embers of war. Those of the Half-Crescent and Full Moons dreamed. Yet the ones who slew the sun deified themselves, evoking the wrath of the God of the Sea. They would not meet again." Entities that would enherit the wills of the Sun God and Earth God/God of the Land would spawn. However, this version of the Sun God may not be the version that Elbaphian Giants worshipped and may actually be JoyBoy. Notice how it just says "Sun" compared to "Sun God" in the First World. This likely means that Nika hasn't manifested fully yet but only enherited his will. JoyBoy may have been waging war against oppression and the enslavement of people still but it's important to note that he would be remembered for waging war more. And as he did, he eventually reached the Elbaph and caught the attention of the Giants as he resembled their god and would wage war for freedom as their god did. This is fair considering the JoyBoy likely came from the Ancient Kingdom which is a technologically advanced kingdom which means they got sht figured out and so JoyBoy would sail to other kingdoms preaching freedom, fighting small-time oppressors, and teaching people how to lead a properous country without having to put other people down. This also caught the attention of multiple other kingdoms that didn't like JoyBoy's preachings and they would convene to plot against him and the Ancient Kingdom he hails from. Meanwhile, the Forest God would lay low and foster "Devils". This could be one of two things; Either it's referring to Devil Fruits, or it's referring to actual devils like the what the 5 Elders and Shamrock's Cerberus are. I mention Cerberus as the name card for it does not say it is a devil fruit unlike Gunko's which does mention her devil fruit. This means that the Forest God is either a person from the Ancient Kingdom that made the Devil Fruits or it's Imu. I think it might be Imu. Imu Nerona may have been just a lowly king that became a member of the 20 kingdom alliance and then became a Saint that would then lead the Celestial Dragons and the World Government, but there's no telling whether Imu was a reincarnation of the Earth God/inheritor of the Earth God's will to begin with which is why they are revered as the one to sit on the throne by the other 18 kings (after discounting Nefertari Lili), or if they planted themselves as just a king that would ally with the other 19 kings just to reveal later on that they will be taking charge of everything for them with the promise to let them live lavish lives on Marijoa so long as the kings and their families keep supporting Imu and not get in the way. Some would take on demonic powers and soft-immortality granted by Imu to fight for them and one of them betray them, which is Lili. Lili would probably secretly send messages to JoyBoy to keep him informed. He then reaches out to friends all over the world that he made by sailing around. Together they would develop weapons to fight against Imu's forces, which spawned the Ancient Weapons and the Devil Fruits, which they likely modelled after demonic powers that they've witnessed after their first few skirmishes and made with the desires and wishes of the people that greatly desired them since they probably learned from Giant friends that a liberator god rose from the prayers and desires of slaves and saved them. This is a hundred year war afterall, they got time to develop weapons. Ultimately, JoyBoy lost and failed to fullfil his promise to Poseidon, and to many more of his friends probably as well. This is probably what the 'dream' that the Harley Text meant - to avenge JoyBoy and defeat Imu. But it cant happen in their lifetime so the Kozuki etched messages on nigh-indestructible rocks for future generations to uncover and decrypt in hopes of influencing them to fight against Imu and their devils and Lili would be incharge of distributing them. They would mark a "D" in their names to signify their alliance with JoyBoy and their dream to one day defeat Imu. Toki, a member of the Amatsuki clan that befriended Joyboy, ate the Toki Toki no Mi and went forward in time to escape or maybe help in some way. After killing JoyBoy, the 20 Kings Alliance would place themselves atop the Red Line and deified themselves. Imu, finally catching wind of Lili's betrayal (The "D"), killed her in secret before she returns home to Alabasta as she doesn't want to be around these evil folks. She prolly got confident since they got a prophecy from somewhere about Imu's defeat, and revealed to Imu that she didnt like Imu's ahh and told him "I aint livin with u stinky ahh in Marijoa! Im goin home in 2 days time." Imu kept it secret so that other Celestial Dragons or the mortals on the surface dont get any ideas. Finally, after years of war, the Sea God, growing tired and wrathful towards these war mongers, would place a curse upon them by not allowing devil fruit users to swim and Imu and their devils would have a curse too but I wouldn't know. Maybe theyre cursed to eventually fail and be defeated by another incarnation of the Sun God. We may never know as "They would not meet again." The Third World: "Chaos reigns; The world drifts in a void." talking about Imu's 800 year reign as Imu apparently means void in japanese. "Yet time does not erase the memory of the promised day. Its shadow looms as the voice of the half moon echoes through the ages, and once more, the Sun God shall rise - laughing, dancing, guiding the world to its final act. The Sun is reborn. A new dawn will break." This just talks about how Imu is prophesized to be defeated by the Sun God and that prophecy looms over Imu everyday as the natural enemies of the Gods, the "D" will spawn among them the new Sun God. This time, surely, they will meet. btw, who's "they"? could it be the 4 blues? if Luffy destroys the Red Line, a giant serpent of fire, a remnant of an ancient oppressor from long ago, and the current home of the Celestial Dragons and Imu, would "they" meet again?
The bird/dragon on top of Yggdrasil probably died fighting the serpent... Now guess who had the ancestor on his ship, in the form of an egg 👀 maybe scopper is taking care of it, waiting for the birth. That's why he's on elbaph?
Could Monkey D. Dragon's face tattoo be imagery for the first 3 worlds? Now we're in the fourth where the seas will meet again, meaning the world will be One. Serpent becomes Red Line, Sea God creates the Grand Line.
Are we sure the eternal flame isn't the core of the One Piece world's planet? They seem to go down into the planet to get star power... and i mean thats where Hell is always imagined. And the inner core of the planet is..well kind of literally what a star is so...? So maybe they literally came across some bad ju ju in the One Piece world and reached Hell?
Wooow just last part ... sun , earth , forest , 100% gods mentioned in skypiea arc wonder why not talk about rain ... last sea I think is devil sea not God, Shanks talk about in first chapter who hate power users... anyways sun is luffy , earth I think is hancock, forest I think is aramaki ... Imu I think is sea devil ... rain not mentioned here but I think is dragon ... is serpent is world snake in myth and become stone by hancock power user and now is grandline.
My theory : "humanity touching the forbidden sun in the first world, is the mother flame. And imu having enslaved the world. Slaves cried for the god of the sun is the first encounter with og nika. The god of the earth is pluton and the serpent of hell is imu (devil in the bible). Imu fired off pluton to defeat nika. They will never meet again is the creation of the red line due to the aftermath of pluton. 2nd world is the creation of devil fruits. And the dreams of moon and half moon are kings race and the people of d. Humanity killing the sun and ascending is the 19 kings and imu killing joyboy and becoming celestial dragons. The god of the sea is ancient weapon uranas and the weapon being used caused the flood which further separated the world with the creation of the grandline separating it further into the four seas we have today, "they could never meet again". 3rd world as said in the chapter is the events coming soon. Luffy leading everyone to fight against imu who is holding the mother flame in his hand. (As we know they just secured it from egghead). We can see a giant who looks like loki, shirahoshi aka posiedon, the tontattas, giants, ships with people or pirates. Etc. There will be a new dawn and "they will surely meet again" is luffy destroying the redline and restoring the world as it was. One united world. One piece/peace
I ve told him HOW many times: Come back here to play with me and the F butterfly right and he said: You now stfp,the f maxim arc you gave me can't fly at all
I mean oook i told him after that, ok Relax i ll send the MF spaceship i had BUT... I then remembered that MF vegapunk had Limited mother flame so i cancelled it.
And then HE had the audacity to go to F moon without me and using his spaceship over there. That s why i told the gorosei to use the f mother flame to destroy lulusia and send him a message.
I had also HOW many things to solve: 1) f akainu thought it d be nice to fight aokiji... I ve told the gorosei to tell them that IT S HARD to find a good replacement 😫😫 2) i HAD also to take care of MF shanks who thinks he a strong. 3) Mf big mom went to Wano. I was like OK there s kaido there with the f lunarians. And guess what,they f failed😫😫 Now ok i mean i am somehow fine. Looks like that Mf shamrock is good. I haven't really talked to the kid yet, because i was training Garling but we ll see.
Imu has to be the figure with the sun the “sun” is the power source of the ancient kingdom and Luffy is going to lead the battle with the other races and clans behind him, giants, fishmen, minks, tontatta, kozuki clan and the samurai, yamato
Roger laughed because the one piece is the inactive eternal flame and it needs the sun god's laughter to activate. So when they saw the one piece all they could do was try laughing in hopes of it activating but it didn't and that's why it was easy for them to move on because even if they wanted to they couldn't activate the eternal flame
Omg💀 I do like this but why would he say luffy and his crew may react differently? Can’t be to activate it because he wouldn’t say that. Still love this theory
I had told, HOW many times, MF joy boy that shall we wait 800 years? No,no he said. I have future sight that sees 1000 years in front of us... No,no he said. Ok f off now take the sun in your white @ss and wait 900 years like a moron.
It was so FUNNY because i had told him, don't bring all the races,i don't know all of them. He was insisting and the MF had brought: Lunarians,minks, dwarfs,humans, one giant robot 😂😂,an elephant, mermaids, super saiyans and the dragon slayer from fairytale and he still lost.
Then I had the weirdo Roger who found the laugh tale 😂😫 Can't they leave me alone playing with my butterfly? People don't know HOW hard is to find new butterflies after i destroy the world.
❤ hey kol I have a topic for you an would like to hear about how you feel about garp and and the promise Roger asked him about taking care of ace do you feel that he did it right or wrong by Roger or even fulfilled the request that was asked by Roger because even in the end ace didn’t even make it to 20 and even though ace was acting out and maybe some people my even say it was Ace’s choice I guess to die wasn’t it still garp responsibility to see ace live longer than him tho at least sometimes I just don’t understand. I would like to hear your thoughts. Have a blessed day.
The part on the foremost side the people fighting against the Giant Shadow demon holding the sun on the uppermost part the fox looking creature with a sword and horns could be Yamato! The whale could be laboom! The Shadow with wings with also a flame could be a lunarian! The giant mech we've already seen! And below it could be the people with the United kingdoms flag and Wano! The Horned giant with the giant blade could be Loki with that giant blade, we see stuck inside the island of elbeth!!! Sun God is Luffy! The mermaid with the Trident could be Poseidon who is sheyoshi and then we have the minx the tiny people and the Giants and the other allied forces fighting the Marines who are defending the giant shadow creature who is Imu holding the everlasting flame which is a piece of The Forbidden Star !!!!???????!!????!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯
I think the crescent moons are figarland The celestial dragons kill nika makings the sea god angry water rising celestial dragons have to keep moving up The star Not the one piece that be too easy still a chance Man abused the mother flame some way the slaves call out for help nika answers he helps them against the gods wishes (maybe) the first world is also the end. For death to reign life must be over Second world A breath stirred in the abyss ( I think this is the voice of all things ) An amazing chapter ima stop cooking for now cuz cp agents might be looking into this
Yall stupid it's in lore that this being is holding a sun in his hand obviously this shit is going too get up scale even more in this verse don't be HUH what like a bunch if dumbass
The third world is what happening now and is going to happen the sun god rising with laughter and dancing is Luffy leading the final battle against Imu who controls the power source a dawn will break is the defeat of Imu and the World Government and the destruction of the Red Line. The “they” would not meet is the four blues meeting making the all blue
Snake is obviously Loki, besides the obvious relation of Loki and snakes, it has a line over its eyes just like Loki's bandages and Loki can see just fine despite being bandaged akin to snakes seeing heat while being blind.
With all the fakes emerging here and there becoming the thing that people more focused on, just let me make something clear There is no God but Allah Take it or leave it, there'll be consequences regardless Choose wisely
Imu has to be the figure with the sun the “sun” is the power source of the ancient kingdom and Luffy is going to lead the battle with the other races and clans behind him, giants, fishmen, minks, tontatta, kozuki clan and the samurai, yamato
You know shit got real when everybody's doing an hour plus video on the lore.
people putting out three hour discussions like nothing, Oda cooked
Its people were able to see it all on first glance, the videos would be around 3 hours long ngl. Its so much in mural to breakdown and discuss. Oda really showed that he never wasted a single chapter in this story. Everything is connected from start to finish and he aint finished yet.
the only video that matter tho... kings
Can’t believe that Skypia is finally required reading
@@maxspecs always has been🌎👩🚀🔫👩🚀
Whole chat spammin DEI-FIED and kol just not seeing it😭😭
Autism
23:56 Time stamp for when he finally gets it
@@gabrielgustavson22 man thank you for this dawg i was getting pissed off for no reason 🤣
1st. world : Blade Runner🛸
2nd world : Mad Max⚔️
3rd world : Pirates Of the Caribean 🏴☠️
Nah fr 😂
Vegapunk might've been right not to point fingers too quickly because the Ancient Kingdom's utopia might have some dirty laundry that Joyboy was either not aware of or worse to sustain itself.
What I think happened is that the people of the 20 Kingdom come from Slaves of the first world with the Ancient Kingdom being the original rulers of the first world. Ultimately I think King of the Ancient Kingdom is not only a decendant of the King of first world but both are the Xebec/Blaxkbeard of their eras
This. Imu will prove to have a point but ultimately Luffy can provide a better solution.
That F grandfather was lucky that MF Saturn was crap and that admiral kizaru couldn't beat the mf strawhats.
NOT only that but egghead is F destroyed now and pangaia castle doesn't have WiFi anymore.
Bro doesn’t understand DEFIED and DEIFIED are two different things throwing his shit all off😂
I'm not even playing, I am genuinely considering rewatching Skypiea for the 3rd time because IT IS SO RELEVANT!
Nah, theres no new retcons for now, im waiting for more lore drop to rewatch
@@brunobru7083he wasn’t speaking on retcons just to see if there were things that connect to what we are being told now
Possibly the 2 Sovereigns will meet like the sea kings talked about🤔
The third world description is almost word for word what toki said before dying
Half crescent could be wano since they had crescent on their legs as a sign of rebellion
@@sissitOoO Also anyone who is D., basically anyone related to the half or crescent moon. Figarlands may be descendants of that group as well (not necesarily D.), also many D are allies with the world government.
🔥🔥One Piece First World 🔥🔥
Would make a SICK movie title!!!
Did anyone else think of Enies Lobby with the hole going down and the building maybe resembling the old ruin city there? There's still the question of why Enies Lobby is perpetually bathed in sunlight out of all places in OP.
yess truee, maybe it literally goes to hell, like a portal to the underworld, the god of the forest could be an ancient weapon that wove its magic (shot a hole through planet) and opened up to the ancient demon gods of the first world.
Many theories saying the One Piece is actually there as well.
If not that, at least some huge connection to Nika must be present there.
Not many places are surrounded in perpetual light, I think Imu's room, Laboon on the inside ... Enies Lobby.
Maybe the hole is entrance like in Jules Verne journey to the center of earth and the continuous sunlight is due to the hole leading to a mini sun like in Jules verne
celestial dragons shortened is CD which if u were to write CD on paper(since the computer makes it look different)than it looks like a full moon
I love that this info is being displayed visually thru Franky !!! His stocks needed a boost
Goda went bonkers with Lore piece
They should gather every op theorist in one livestream just to debunk this one panel
So wait WHAT DID ROGER SEE?!
This panel turned us all into Archaeologists/Historians/ Anthropologists overnight
LMFAOO cut off the 3/4 of the early chapter because it's still 2h of kol lore crafting
So imu is just a being from first world that took over lily during the second world... like tot musica with uta in film red...
You said already too much boy...
I felt like the mural was a welcome banner to the real story, the ancient history in one piece. Boss level stuff right here.
Also Kaido's attack "Conqueror of the 3 worlds: Ragnaraku" must be inspired by these 3 worlds
King you went off, salute! Best theorizing by far within the community for this chapter
i love how this dumb ahh didnt notice the entire chat spamming deified and he didnt notice... i couldnt stop laughing at him
The figure that looks like a wolf could either be Yamato or a former user of the Okuchi no Makami fruit
Robins about to get kidnapped so hard
Not only are Gunko and Shamrock planning on kidnapping the kids that happen to be at her location. They're about to bring in ANOTHER holy knight, and robin is about to figure out everything.
The god of the land mentioned was probably a Lunarian considering the fire snake, and Lundaians were a “god” race before they were taken out, and Imu is definitely the mentioned forest god.
Also, the word used is deified, as in made themselves out to be gods, which is definitely the early celestial dragons.
So if imu is the forest god has she been handing out dfs to all her soldiers like shamrock with cerebus and the gorosei
Imu is an alien and the motherflame is an invention used to destroy planets for its recourses imu wants to create flood to destroy it all
Ok so heres what im Seeing beside the main key points. The flowing boat like "enels" in the center right along with seems to be a person shooting "lighting"
. Second franky is literally looking like emmeth from the wide view is telling us something. Maybe im looking to hard but hey.
You gotta lock in and make a video with Tekking and all the lore masters after this
Dorry : the only thing the spear of elbaf cant pierce is the bloodstained serpent!
Something along those lines he said that. I like the theory that the serpent is the red line. It means the red line is just red cause it was stained by the blood of the first world.
People getting confused by the mention of the God of the Land and God of the Sea but people who liked Skypea probably remember that those gods were mentioned during the Nolan stuff.
I don't know how you could interperet the First World mural as anything but resource extraction. Like how much more on the nose does Oda need to be then drawing people literally going down into the earth on an elevator and returning with energy or resources.
I feel like too many people getting caught up in literal interpretations of the Full and Crescent Moons. The only time a Moon has been referenced by someone in the time period before was when Toki talked about the "Moon unaware" awaiting the Dawn. So the different types of Moons could represent people with a different level of awareness of the struggle for freedom against whatever forces have been seemingly trying to suppress humans since as far back as 900 years ago.
Bro the first two ages are talking about the creation of the Red Line and the creation of the Grand Line. I think that Emu created the devil fruits as a cheap knock-off of whatever power the Ancient Kingdom had and it angered the Sea God who then cursed the fruit eaters and created the Grand Line in their anger. All of this lines up with the 3rd age aka the current age ending in "the will meet" because the Red Line and the Grand Line need to be destroyed/removed for the All Blue to become a reality and then people would no longer be easily controlled because of how separated in the world they are.
The creation of the Red Line meant the people in the East and West could no longer meet and the creation of the Grand Line meant people of the North and South could no longer meet. This makes it seem like the promise JoyBoy failed to fulfill from his apology letter was not in fact just making sure Momo and Shirahoshi could meet but something more because they are both in the 3rd Age panel so if they were the promise it would be talking about the promise was already fulfilled not wondering if the promise will still be kept like it is now.
The first panel mentioning the world always on fire is talking about the world burning either because of oil or some resource extraction. Remember the Ancient Kingdom was even more advanced than what we saw on Egghead Island so think of how much resources we strip from the world now in real life and imagine how much worse it would have been for the Ancient Kingdom to maintain its technology. That is what I believe is happening with the people being shown going down an elevator and coming back up with what looks like energy(or the resources for energy) in their hands
The 3rd Panel is not about the past. It is a prophecy about what is to come, so the Sun in Imu's hand is either the All Flame bc the WG somehow gets to it or steals it or it is a Mother Flame that has been improved enough to be another All Flame. Ripley mentions that the Giants have never in their history allied with other races on the scale in the mural before, which implies it is something that has not happened yet, especially considering the Giants are like the only race we have seen that have decent records of their own race from those times so as a teacher Ripley would know.
The fact that in the 3rd World we see Emu represented as a big shadow figure probably means that the other two Shadows are the "gods" of the 2nd and 1st world and since mu is super powerful but not a literal god I think it can be seen as each World had a ruler that is being referred to as a god similar to how the ruler of Skypea is called god as well. I think there is a distinction being made here between a person being called "god of the forest" or "god of the land" and Sea God and Sun God. I think "god of the ..." is a title for the ruler of the age similar to "god" as ruler of Skypea.
40:00 Bookmark, gotta go to work
Bruh 40:20 same bookmark
Soooo much lore - We love to see it
Conqueror of three worlds, Rangnarok!
Imagine Oda goes deeper in history and also put some mesopotamian anunnaki alien story or beliefs in the one piece story aliens with wings from space that would be crazy cool
Oda is cooking and I am getting goosebumps bro for real 🥶
The half crescent is the D. Clan and slew the sun is Joyboy losing the battle with the 20 kings, the devils could be the devil fruits
I think Thiller Bark Arc and the Kage Kage Fruit is really important now. Moria/Brook explains that the shadow is basically their second souls. Imu and the gorosei might actually be beings that use their shadows to transform into their true forms and have control of their second souls.((Thus not devil fruits). But joyboy/Nika died, and their shadows can't exist without light so they are somehow nerfed/unable to be their true selves always. So this is why they want the sun god power in their control or something close to it aka "The Mother flame" to be eternal.
And if you think, then why would the world gov/Imu kill Joyboy back then? Joyboy rose against them first for not liking their ideals of being controlled and they killed him for the greater good of their motives. But when devil fruits came around and they heard a Nika Nika fruit was out there, they wanted it now that the fruit didn't have a host to dictate its will/personification of freedom. But unfortunately they gotta deal with Luffy who wants the be the most free person. Imu isn't keep track of Luffy because of him being a threat, but for them keeping track of their end goal which is the power.
2:20 deep voice Lore hahaha frfr I felt it too reading it
First war, SadBoy like leader and Nika separated the surviving slaves, SadBoy left behind to safeguard the passage, he sent Noah to the bottom of the sea, Nika went with Maxim to the moon. Imu stole SadBoy's power.
Second war, JoyBoy brought the moon people to the surface with the arc Maxim, he tried, but failed to bring the Fishmen back to the surface as well, that's why he apologised. JoyBoy died, but Imu could not steal his power.
Third war oh boy oh boy oh boy, what would be upon us i hopefully nothing but greatness.
New SadBoy and JoyBoy rise with almost the same power as their previous counterparts.
Hopefully they will meet again. (the heroes, the former slaves, the seas as redline will have holes, the lands as we will have the bridges ...)
That knuckles soundtrack is heat Kol 🔥🔥🔥🔥Aquatic Mines🔥🔥🔥🔥
DE I FIED (iykyk)
the undying flame was originally the sungods power which he seperated from himself to give light to the people
The onepiece
is the undying flame
When luffy finds the onepiece and gets the undying flame. the Nika fruit will be in full power and can finally take down Imu
Mmmmm I like this but I still can’t see why Rodger laughed
BLACKBEARD AND IMU VS LUFFY?
I’m gonna guess for a devil fruit to recycle you actually need a live fruit with fruit for the devil fruit to respawn as we seen with the snow snow fruit
The First World:
"The Earth burned in endless flame, and in the hearts of men burned with desire. From whispered prayers, the Sun God rose, beckoned by the enslaved who reached for the forbidden star. The God of the Land was enraged. With a serpent of fire, they cast the world into ruin. Darkness fell. Death reighned. They would not meet again."
In the first version of the world, the God of the Land would enslave mankind and force them to do his bidding that burned the Earth, which envolves a "Forbidden Star" that the humans would eventually aspire and achieve with the help of the Sun God as he appears from the prayers and wishes of those enslaved. This is the first version of Nika, The Liberator, and likely not a Devil Fruit user but a full manifestation just like how the 5 Elder Stars are not Devil Fruit users or could have been just a person who manifested rubber powers/toon force from his intense desire and stepped up against the God of the Land. He would bring smiles and laughter to the oppressed. With the desire of men to be free from their shackles and to explore the world, a liberator came for them, which angered their oppressor, the God of the Land. And with his dominion over land he would separate men to millions of islands and raise a giant piece of land that would circle the entire planet like a giant serpent making it impossible for mankind to be free as they would be landlocked and unable to safely sail the sea due to the Red Line fuckin the weather and climate althroughout the world. As it rose, it moved tectonic plates and carried molten rock and fire with it, literally burning the earth. As for the Forbidden Star, I wouldn't know for certain what happened to it. It may have been used by a particular group of mankind that founded the Ancient Kingdom and developed technology centuries beyond as a result of meddling and studying the star. After the Red Line rose, both gods would likely battle and might've both died as a result according to "They would not meet again." Buuut.... [Second World]
The Second World:
"A breath stirred in the abyss. The God of the Forest wove their magic, nurturing its devils, while the Sun lit the embers of war. Those of the Half-Crescent and Full Moons dreamed. Yet the ones who slew the sun deified themselves, evoking the wrath of the God of the Sea. They would not meet again."
Entities that would enherit the wills of the Sun God and Earth God/God of the Land would spawn. However, this version of the Sun God may not be the version that Elbaphian Giants worshipped and may actually be JoyBoy. Notice how it just says "Sun" compared to "Sun God" in the First World. This likely means that Nika hasn't manifested fully yet but only enherited his will. JoyBoy may have been waging war against oppression and the enslavement of people still but it's important to note that he would be remembered for waging war more. And as he did, he eventually reached the Elbaph and caught the attention of the Giants as he resembled their god and would wage war for freedom as their god did. This is fair considering the JoyBoy likely came from the Ancient Kingdom which is a technologically advanced kingdom which means they got sht figured out and so JoyBoy would sail to other kingdoms preaching freedom, fighting small-time oppressors, and teaching people how to lead a properous country without having to put other people down. This also caught the attention of multiple other kingdoms that didn't like JoyBoy's preachings and they would convene to plot against him and the Ancient Kingdom he hails from. Meanwhile, the Forest God would lay low and foster "Devils". This could be one of two things; Either it's referring to Devil Fruits, or it's referring to actual devils like the what the 5 Elders and Shamrock's Cerberus are. I mention Cerberus as the name card for it does not say it is a devil fruit unlike Gunko's which does mention her devil fruit. This means that the Forest God is either a person from the Ancient Kingdom that made the Devil Fruits or it's Imu. I think it might be Imu.
Imu Nerona may have been just a lowly king that became a member of the 20 kingdom alliance and then became a Saint that would then lead the Celestial Dragons and the World Government, but there's no telling whether Imu was a reincarnation of the Earth God/inheritor of the Earth God's will to begin with which is why they are revered as the one to sit on the throne by the other 18 kings (after discounting Nefertari Lili), or if they planted themselves as just a king that would ally with the other 19 kings just to reveal later on that they will be taking charge of everything for them with the promise to let them live lavish lives on Marijoa so long as the kings and their families keep supporting Imu and not get in the way. Some would take on demonic powers and soft-immortality granted by Imu to fight for them and one of them betray them, which is Lili. Lili would probably secretly send messages to JoyBoy to keep him informed. He then reaches out to friends all over the world that he made by sailing around. Together they would develop weapons to fight against Imu's forces, which spawned the Ancient Weapons and the Devil Fruits, which they likely modelled after demonic powers that they've witnessed after their first few skirmishes and made with the desires and wishes of the people that greatly desired them since they probably learned from Giant friends that a liberator god rose from the prayers and desires of slaves and saved them. This is a hundred year war afterall, they got time to develop weapons. Ultimately, JoyBoy lost and failed to fullfil his promise to Poseidon, and to many more of his friends probably as well. This is probably what the 'dream' that the Harley Text meant - to avenge JoyBoy and defeat Imu. But it cant happen in their lifetime so the Kozuki etched messages on nigh-indestructible rocks for future generations to uncover and decrypt in hopes of influencing them to fight against Imu and their devils and Lili would be incharge of distributing them. They would mark a "D" in their names to signify their alliance with JoyBoy and their dream to one day defeat Imu. Toki, a member of the Amatsuki clan that befriended Joyboy, ate the Toki Toki no Mi and went forward in time to escape or maybe help in some way. After killing JoyBoy, the 20 Kings Alliance would place themselves atop the Red Line and deified themselves. Imu, finally catching wind of Lili's betrayal (The "D"), killed her in secret before she returns home to Alabasta as she doesn't want to be around these evil folks. She prolly got confident since they got a prophecy from somewhere about Imu's defeat, and revealed to Imu that she didnt like Imu's ahh and told him "I aint livin with u stinky ahh in Marijoa! Im goin home in 2 days time." Imu kept it secret so that other Celestial Dragons or the mortals on the surface dont get any ideas. Finally, after years of war, the Sea God, growing tired and wrathful towards these war mongers, would place a curse upon them by not allowing devil fruit users to swim and Imu and their devils would have a curse too but I wouldn't know. Maybe theyre cursed to eventually fail and be defeated by another incarnation of the Sun God. We may never know as "They would not meet again."
The Third World:
"Chaos reigns; The world drifts in a void." talking about Imu's 800 year reign as Imu apparently means void in japanese.
"Yet time does not erase the memory of the promised day. Its shadow looms as the voice of the half moon echoes through the ages, and once more, the Sun God shall rise - laughing, dancing, guiding the world to its final act. The Sun is reborn. A new dawn will break." This just talks about how Imu is prophesized to be defeated by the Sun God and that prophecy looms over Imu everyday as the natural enemies of the Gods, the "D" will spawn among them the new Sun God. This time, surely, they will meet.
btw, who's "they"? could it be the 4 blues? if Luffy destroys the Red Line, a giant serpent of fire, a remnant of an ancient oppressor from long ago, and the current home of the Celestial Dragons and Imu, would "they" meet again?
Good theory
It’s looking like the D stands for the half moon people 🧐🌓
so I think this is obvious but, god of the land, god of the sea and god of the forest feel like the 3 ancient weapons
The forbidden star is the undying flame
Hey has anyone forgotten about the treasure in marijoie maybe That what is separated from the sea due to Imu powers
you better put on your tin foil hat for this one lil bro XD
Figarland S H A M S :D
To the King!
thsnk you 🫡
The bird/dragon on top of Yggdrasil probably died fighting the serpent... Now guess who had the ancestor on his ship, in the form of an egg 👀 maybe scopper is taking care of it, waiting for the birth. That's why he's on elbaph?
Anyone saying oda isn’t one of the best foreshadowers or story writers are clearly missing out one piece on top for a reason 😂
3 gods sound right. Only 3 ancient weapons
The one piece has to be a weapon..
The star seems to be the mother flame
Could Monkey D. Dragon's face tattoo be imagery for the first 3 worlds? Now we're in the fourth where the seas will meet again, meaning the world will be One.
Serpent becomes Red Line, Sea God creates the Grand Line.
The lore piece.... THE LORE PIECE IS REAL!!!!!!!!
wouldn't "the god of the forest" be a giant tree ?
Greenbull
Kol I fuck with your takes hard man
Are we sure the eternal flame isn't the core of the One Piece world's planet? They seem to go down into the planet to get star power... and i mean thats where Hell is always imagined. And the inner core of the planet is..well kind of literally what a star is so...? So maybe they literally came across some bad ju ju in the One Piece world and reached Hell?
KOL ur still the best One piece lore guy.. and I fw ohara too
Buddisht, Christian, and Viking apocalypses.
Wooow just last part ... sun , earth , forest , 100% gods mentioned in skypiea arc wonder why not talk about rain ... last sea I think is devil sea not God, Shanks talk about in first chapter who hate power users... anyways sun is luffy , earth I think is hancock, forest I think is aramaki ... Imu I think is sea devil ... rain not mentioned here but I think is dragon ... is serpent is world snake in myth and become stone by hancock power user and now is grandline.
My theory : "humanity touching the forbidden sun in the first world, is the mother flame. And imu having enslaved the world. Slaves cried for the god of the sun is the first encounter with og nika. The god of the earth is pluton and the serpent of hell is imu (devil in the bible). Imu fired off pluton to defeat nika. They will never meet again is the creation of the red line due to the aftermath of pluton. 2nd world is the creation of devil fruits. And the dreams of moon and half moon are kings race and the people of d. Humanity killing the sun and ascending is the 19 kings and imu killing joyboy and becoming celestial dragons. The god of the sea is ancient weapon uranas and the weapon being used caused the flood which further separated the world with the creation of the grandline separating it further into the four seas we have today, "they could never meet again". 3rd world as said in the chapter is the events coming soon. Luffy leading everyone to fight against imu who is holding the mother flame in his hand. (As we know they just secured it from egghead). We can see a giant who looks like loki, shirahoshi aka posiedon, the tontattas, giants, ships with people or pirates. Etc. There will be a new dawn and "they will surely meet again" is luffy destroying the redline and restoring the world as it was. One united world. One piece/peace
this you oda?
Ok now close your mouth otherwise i ll turn you into lulusia 2.0
Yo, shut it, you may have spoiled the ending of One Piece
Enel and the arc maxim, the goat is coming back ⚡️
I m missing my cousin
I ve told him HOW many times:
Come back here to play with me and the F butterfly right and he said:
You now stfp,the f maxim arc you gave me can't fly at all
I mean oook i told him after that, ok Relax i ll send the MF spaceship i had BUT...
I then remembered that MF vegapunk had Limited mother flame so i cancelled it.
And then HE had the audacity to go to F moon without me and using his spaceship over there.
That s why i told the gorosei to use the f mother flame to destroy lulusia and send him a message.
I had also HOW many things to solve:
1) f akainu thought it d be nice to fight aokiji... I ve told the gorosei to tell them that IT S HARD to find a good replacement 😫😫
2) i HAD also to take care of MF shanks who thinks he a strong.
3) Mf big mom went to Wano.
I was like OK there s kaido there with the f lunarians.
And guess what,they f failed😫😫
Now ok i mean i am somehow fine. Looks like that Mf shamrock is good. I haven't really talked to the kid yet, because i was training Garling but we ll see.
King you got to read the paragraph before you stop reading and guess man. You be asking questions then the answer is the next line like just move on
Imu has to be the figure with the sun the “sun” is the power source of the ancient kingdom and Luffy is going to lead the battle with the other races and clans behind him, giants, fishmen, minks, tontatta, kozuki clan and the samurai, yamato
Roger was too early!!!
Roger laughed because the one piece is the inactive eternal flame and it needs the sun god's laughter to activate. So when they saw the one piece all they could do was try laughing in hopes of it activating but it didn't and that's why it was easy for them to move on because even if they wanted to they couldn't activate the eternal flame
Your comment will probably dissappear in the comment section but I really think you got something here. That sounds so possible.
Omg💀 I do like this but why would he say luffy and his crew may react differently? Can’t be to activate it because he wouldn’t say that. Still love this theory
Joy boy and many weaklings are jumping Imu with the Motherflame? And on the other side you have 2 equal giant creatures who fight😅?
😂😂😂 I mean ok they tried to win
Sometimes we praise the effort.
I had told, HOW many times, MF joy boy that shall we wait 800 years?
No,no he said.
I have future sight that sees 1000 years in front of us...
No,no he said.
Ok f off now take the sun in your white @ss and wait 900 years like a moron.
It was so FUNNY because i had told him, don't bring all the races,i don't know all of them.
He was insisting and the MF had brought:
Lunarians,minks, dwarfs,humans, one giant robot 😂😂,an elephant, mermaids, super saiyans and the dragon slayer from fairytale and he still lost.
Then I had the weirdo Roger who found the laugh tale 😂😫
Can't they leave me alone playing with my butterfly?
People don't know HOW hard is to find new butterflies after i destroy the world.
❤ hey kol I have a topic for you an would like to hear about how you feel about garp and and the promise Roger asked him about taking care of ace do you feel that he did it right or wrong by Roger or even fulfilled the request that was asked by Roger because even in the end ace didn’t even make it to 20 and even though ace was acting out and maybe some people my even say it was Ace’s choice I guess to die wasn’t it still garp responsibility to see ace live longer than him tho at least sometimes I just don’t understand. I would like to hear your thoughts. Have a blessed day.
Imu is god of the land??? Is the power to move worlds the teleportation the government uses???
Yes i am
Lllilly 😈😈😈👿
Bring back the light of Shandora
The part on the foremost side the people fighting against the Giant Shadow demon holding the sun on the uppermost part the fox looking creature with a sword and horns could be Yamato! The whale could be laboom! The Shadow with wings with also a flame could be a lunarian! The giant mech we've already seen! And below it could be the people with the United kingdoms flag and Wano! The Horned giant with the giant blade could be Loki with that giant blade, we see stuck inside the island of elbeth!!! Sun God is Luffy! The mermaid with the Trident could be Poseidon who is sheyoshi and then we have the minx the tiny people and the Giants and the other allied forces fighting the Marines who are defending the giant shadow creature who is Imu holding the everlasting flame which is a piece of The Forbidden Star !!!!???????!!????!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯
You mean the thing with the sword and something like Mane??
This is Louis Arnot. They have the same mane looking hair.
Llllllily 😈😈🐽
I think the crescent moons are figarland
The celestial dragons kill nika makings the sea god angry water rising celestial dragons have to keep moving up
The star Not the one piece that be too easy still a chance
Man abused the mother flame some way the slaves call out for help nika answers he helps them against the gods wishes (maybe)
the first world is also the end. For death to reign life must be over
Second world A breath stirred in the abyss ( I think this is the voice of all things )
An amazing chapter ima stop cooking for now cuz cp agents might be looking into this
to the moon! #PLEASE
ONE PIECE STAR LEVEL CONFIRM BABY
Huh
What
@wordonthestreetpodcast5472 It's a joke because a demon is holding the Sun in its hand.
Yall stupid it's in lore that this being is holding a sun in his hand obviously this shit is going too get up scale even more in this verse don't be HUH what like a bunch if dumbass
📍THE ONE PIECE IS REAL 🔥☀️
The third world is what happening now and is going to happen the sun god rising with laughter and dancing is Luffy leading the final battle against Imu who controls the power source a dawn will break is the defeat of Imu and the World Government and the destruction of the Red Line. The “they” would not meet is the four blues meeting making the all blue
Snake is obviously Loki, besides the obvious relation of Loki and snakes, it has a line over its eyes just like Loki's bandages and Loki can see just fine despite being bandaged akin to snakes seeing heat while being blind.
Imu is god of the land???
Yooow
Zoro Kills Shamrock it will Happens..
Three sword style vs three head sword style
Kol is irritating sometimes 💀 like bro do all that 20 minutes dissecting about a cresent moon
Soon as there's any hint of Sanji Glaze I'm leaving the video 🫣
Why are you here anyway?
I ll make the GREATEST comment on one piece videos on utube, OF ALL TIME:
MURAL of the story... If it s 500 vs 1 BET ON IMU👿👿
Lllliillly 😈👿😈👿👿👿
ون بيس الأفضل 🔥
People yapping naruto lore is better 😂
What lore is there in Naruto?
Ah, the usual dunking on one series to boost another.
Ya love to see it.
Started off as ninjas….ended with aliens…..come on
What does Naruto lore have to do with this?
@@ComicBoy60s Who said Naruto lore had anything to do with this?
With all the fakes emerging here and there becoming the thing that people more focused on, just let me make something clear
There is no God but Allah
Take it or leave it, there'll be consequences regardless
Choose wisely
Imu has to be the figure with the sun the “sun” is the power source of the ancient kingdom and Luffy is going to lead the battle with the other races and clans behind him, giants, fishmen, minks, tontatta, kozuki clan and the samurai, yamato