Polyphia - Playing God (Pianist listens to metalhead’s suggestion)
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2024
- Judson’s 2nd experience with @Polyphia.
@TimHensonW6RST
Richard’s shirt - ampera.xyz/
Judson’s piano intro:
@NoDoubt - Spiderwebs
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Music is meant to convey and provoke feeling. And sometimes we say things like, “that instrumental song is like an abstract expressionist painting.” What other art forms have you found that could be linked? Or associated with one another? Architecture, comedy, sculpture, science, food, dance, acting, literature, etc..
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The thing with music is that it's abstract by its very nature. As far as I can think, all other mediums have at least the possibility of representing something real, but if you take lyrics out of the equation, music can only be an abstract interpretation. The thing that I would most liken it to is mathematics in science, in that you could write a piece of music and say it represents the ebb and flow of a river, and someone else could write equations that describe the same, but without knowing in advance what either are trying to articulate, they might be construed as something completely different. Or indeed make no sense at all. Actuality dance is the same. So music, dance and mathematics.
I link auditory and visual terminology instinctively. Clarity and detail in music is like hi-res imagery with contrast and sharpness. Distortion in music, is like grain or noise in photos, adds depth and character but could easily be considered flaws in the wrong context etc. It's a beautiful perspective to have
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God's "psychy"?
No one: "... . .."
Polyphia: "here's some EDM Power Jazz"
I find Henson's playing to be very encouraging, to me it represents that the instrument still has room to grow. Someone playing this well just means it can be done. These guys and the likes of Tosin Abasi, Ichika Nito, etc are inspiring the next generation of great guitarists like the greats of the past inspired these guys. Its exciting to me as a jaded mid-30s guitarist whose interest in the instrument has been waning over the past decade
Perfect description of myself with the "mid 30s losing interest" line. Guys like Tim Henson and polyphia have renewed my ambition to continue improving and trying new things
"So here we go... Uh.. um." Is the correct response to this song lol
What I really like about Judson, is that he always seems so curious about things. Like he is open-mindedly entering the world of whatever he is presented with.
Polyphia - Bloodbath Feat. Chino Moreno
Absolutely love this one, naaaaaasty guitar solo
Eddie Van Halen was such an avid effects user that there are signature pedals dedicated to him, phaser, flanger, and chorus.
I love his use of the flange pedal on unchained
I saw the clip Judson was talking about. He actually said he didn't ever use a distortion pedal, not that he never used pedals at all.
Most of the effects he made up himself
Which is awesome
Do you mean "Technique"? He pioneered some of his playing techniques and styles, but not the effects (those are standard effects that were available before he started playing guitar).@@greenblackswerl
@@tomfoolery342 I just remember seeing an interview about him talking about when he started he didn’t have any money for pedals and all sorts of gadgets so he just used to make up his own sounds with what he had
In terms of INSANE musicianship that might impress one or even both of you, check out "Overtime (Live Band sesh)" by KNOWER (or "computers" by clowncore, for fun)
EDIT: And if Judson likes Polyphia's bassist, they have a featured bass solo in "Antecedent" by The Omnific!
I second overtime by knower. Louis cole and friends are beasts.
Antecedent by Omnific is amazing for bass lovers!
Knower is such a cult clasic band at this point, crazy good songs
"Overtime" is a great song, but "The Government Knows" is still my favorite. It really captures their sense of humor.
Regardless, Knower are putting out great songs.
I think they should listen to anything on the new album. It's next level.
I always imagined that the ablum title "Remember that you will die" is almost a tale about someone. Someone rich, famous, powerful, creative, talented, etc. In the beginning, theyre "Playing God" and most of the early songs reflect this feeling of achievement and success. However as the album progresses to its later half it starts to fade into different emotions like anger and sorrow, and eventually "It all falls apart". This someone is losing their touch or maybe just "remembering that they will die" and it is all capped off with "Ego Death" at the end to show how no matter your success and power, we all meet the same fate.
Just an idea from a fan, and obviously some songs (like abc) dont fit the naming theme, but imho thats why its in the middle of the album. So yeah, thats my two cents.
People read way too much into this stuff from a band that names its songs 'Goat' and 'Goose'
Maybe you dont read enough into it? Musicians are seldom simple people sending simple messages@@ItsMeBarnaby
Momento mori
@@softhands3394 Tell me the message of Goose. I can't wait to hear this profound revelation you're about to lay upon me.
@@ItsMeBarnabyhave you considered even for 11 seconds that a band full of people in their early to mid 20s releasing songs 5+ years ago didn’t take song names as seriously but after years of touring and now being 30 they’ve grown and matured to the point that they likely do put importance to naming, structure, pacing and meaning into album and song titles much like they take the same care in the music itself?
No I guess that thought never crossed your mind.
Judsonnnn!! You nailed my thoughts on this song exactly the first time I heard it!! I immediately thought of “background” or elevator music, on that second half! Exactly!! These guys are amazingly talented and I love it! The first half of this particular song is the bomb! ❤ and thanks for going back to No Doubt for some piano cover on the intro!! Niiiice!!
The main guitarist looks like the coolest Anime Villain lol wtf and shreds like crazy
No Doubt had really great stuff and it was a great connection with some ladies. I like how punk Gwen was then!
I always felt like “playing god” was an unrelated title so I appreciated Judson’s interpretation of it
Another great song this is an amazing group of musicians
Eddie Van Halen was an avid user of guitar pedals, a lot of phaser and chorus, definitely used flangers, wahs, and octavers as well.
However he is referencing an interview in which eddie says he plugged directly into the amp. I think Eddie was talking about not using distortion.
Yes, Eddie used effects pedals just not any distortion pedals.
Feels like their song is their creation, so the music and video represents creation through music. It starts frantically and by the song's end(seventh day) these guys are all laying around taking it all in.
I was wondering when you would get to this!
I think he'd really dig "The Last Milestone" by Leprous. It's effectively a classical style song in their style, and it's beautiful.
Hey! It's me again! Again asking for giving me some joy by letting Judson react to Archspire. Have a great day!
My personal favorite RUclips channel
MMW are awesome! And The Dropper is my favorite album of theirs.
I wish I loved anything as much as Judson likes saying "Great Measures".
The elevator music part is similar to bossa nova music, which blends samba and jazz. A lot of it has a familiar sound because it's such a niche zone of rythm and chord progressions.
If you have Polyphia, would you like take some of Car Bomb or Vildhjarta? Especially drum cams?
Try with some Leprous from Malina. That would be great.
You could also react to Unprocessed's Thrash or Blackbone. Their style is pretty close to Polyphia (they even had a song featured with the band), but they're kinda much more extreme and have nice vocals. And that special basssss:)
And I'd like to see Judson's reaction to Architects. I don't know what to recommend from their older stuff, but from the latest - A New Moral Low Ground with its unique solo for sure.
I think I like Polyphia from a technical perspective, but when it comes to their music, it seems to be very poppy with very generic chord progressions, but perhaps that’s part of their appeal.
They’d be the first to acknowledge that, it’s very much intentional to their sound, and you’re right is absolutely part of their appeal. Tim has laughed in interviews that they get compared to a lot of math rock bands when they tend to write in standard time signatures, for standard tunings, and generally using pop progressions.
Forsaken of Obscura, is great band 🤘🏼🔥
Imagine Judson reacting to any of the "The Biggest Shred Collab Song In The World" songs (6 so far), especially the last 2... The 5th is my favorite because of how much it made me hate playing guitar since xD
Well almost made it half way before a Muppets reference lol.
I think him laying on his back was him sleeping, to get to that level you have to play day and night.
My favorite part is when he stared at the screen and maybe bobbed his head a little while the video was playing
I’m think it’s called playing God, it’s because of the creative and CREATINg process of the song.
I felt that I was taken to a trip to different cultura music places. All the mood, melody, rhythm switching.
You gotta do Unprocessed, Blackbone!
Brian May is "like an astrophysicist". Very well said by Judson lol
would be cool l see In Flames - dialogue with the stars
Great Measures…
I always thought of this song as almost a tech demo or proof of concept rather than a traditional song. Each player gets a chance to shine in their own spotlight with a loose musical idea connecting them all together. I think it would be even better with some horn stabs to fill out the arrangement and add some flavorful punctuation to a lot of the staccato phrasings they're using.
to be fair, the song itself was literally a tech demo to get Ibanez to make the TOD10N, Tim's signature guitar
Hope you guys are good.
The Hirsch Effekt has almost every composition like this. I advise you to pay attention)
Does Judson have a SoundCloud account?
It's time he releases some of his work!
I insist!
Most drums on this album were written by Luke Holland - insane drummer. You shoud check his collab with Richardson 'Sparrow'
Not most. He collaborated with Clay on 6 of the 12 songs and for 5 of the 6 we don’t know how much of his contributions made it into the album version.
Nice boys cheers , next when u have time maby G.O.A.T.
Maybe he could check out the acoustic version of Playing God with the piano
If Judson likes this type of music, I highly recommend listening to Paco De Lucia - Entre dos aguas (1976). To that matter if Richard hasn't heard of it either, Paco's probably one of the best guitarists of all time. By that I mean some of the best guitarists in the world say Paco is the best in the world.
Pls have Judson check out Chon. Imo they are the best at what they do. I recommend fluffy (maybe even the audiotree version)
11:05
God‘s swag?
no
God‘s blissful detachment
This guys are fantastics... Another good instrumental band - Asterism try music Church.
0:43-0:50 bro forgot he left the oven on😂😂😂
Please react to the Japanese band toe. I recommend “tremolo + delay” or the original “goodbye”. They’re so good
The world's greatest Grand Turismo garage music... make it happen!
Still sounds like smooth jazz by pHDs.
Please Listen Spanish Fly from Van Halen... no effects... just acoustic guitar
Every time you listen to this band, you seem to get extremely demoralized, and I must say, I thoroughly enjoy watching your reaction :D
React to acid bath scream of the butterfly plzzz
You want Polyphia with strumming? Boy, got I Manuel Gardner-Fernandes for you!
Would love to see some Unprocessed here!
Demonstrating an array of playing techniques in one coherent composition: ruclips.net/video/fKeHg3c8eow/видео.html
Or these collaborations:
Manuel & Tim Henson (Polyphia) ruclips.net/video/JLCtH0KAY8Q/видео.html
Manuel & Ichika Nito
ruclips.net/video/UnoMlu_IhZ0/видео.html
For the titles of the songs, Ego Death is one that I see what they mean and why they called it that. The first half of the piece (before Steve Vai comes in) features a ton of virtuosic soloing, but if I'm perfectly honest, a lot of it isn't actually that pleasing to listen to. I mean, it's impressive, but it's clearly music written for the musician to show off and maybe for other people (like you guys) who know a ton about music to geek out about. For the casual listener it's honestly just kind of a lot of noise. That part is the ego. Then Vai's part comes in, and let's be honest, it's not that technically challenging to play. You could honestly take someone who has played guitar for what maybe a month and teach them most of Vai's part, but it's VERY pleasing to listen to, and then they all start playing together as a unit where it gets difficult to even distinguish which guitarist is playing which part. It starts being less about the musician showing off and more about the experience of the listener. That's the death of the ego. Hence, ego death :).
ya and a side thing could be the band getting a big ego and being humbled by just how innovative / influential steve vai is. a sort of we are really good but not steve vai level.
I thought Spiderwebs was Glycerine for a second.
Listening to Judson play piano makes me regret giving up playing after over 10yrs of lessons. Also the violin. Gave that up as well. I was very good at both but highly skilled on violin. Regrets…..😢
Erra - Dementia please :)
That was deep.😂
11:15
"Essence"?
I agree, I just took it as the skill required to play the song was what they were referring to by, "Playing God". That they were playing at a high level close to Gods.
Most music is not made with a specific name in mind. Musicians in general like to make music and then name it for what it means to them.
i think the strumming version hes looking for, the closest might be abc
I find that Polyphia often has a tongue-in-cheek attitude to some degree, and I think the title of this song has an element of that. The way one usually uses the phrase, playing God is an action, but I believe that Polyphia is deploying a double entendre. It can also be read, here, as a title of sorts--"playing" serves as an adjective rather than a verb.
Do some unprocessed!!! Please
Brad Owen plays piano????
They have a song called G.O.A.T, a song called Playing God, a song called EGO Death.
They all have the same meaning. You have to be a god to play this shit and if your not your Ego will die. Exactly 10:17
I call it 'technical lounge'.
Can I have a big bowl of noodles please? I like the elevator portion of the song and liked some of the melodies coming through...
Judson, was the word you were looking for divinity?
i think hes looking for the word demeanor
Eddie Van Halen was 100% lying when he said he didn't use pedals lol. Half his tone comes from a phaser.
Please, I am begging you, make him listen Archspire "Golden Mouth of Ruin"
He’s already reacted to NeO.
@@jen.g.then, let me edit my comment only for Archspire, thanks for letting me know.
I think they fall under the style of metal Judson doesn't vibe with it all. He'd appreciate the talent of what Olli does vocally. I love Tech Death and Archspire in particular, but it's definitely along the lines of exactly what Judson says he doesn't care for. Overly complex riffs, crazy blast beats and unintelligible vocals.
I'd still love to see it though. Or some First Fragment.
Personally I think something from Virvum would be something he'd like a bit more from Tech Death. Maybe I'm completely wrong /shrug.
@@6ic6ic6ic Yeah but think of the click and the views.
We’re planning to get together next weekend and I’ll make sure this one gets done then. I can almost guarantee that he won’t like it, but you’re right, his reaction will probably be priceless. 😂
You should show him some Chon
I think it's time for Judson to face The Dance of Eternity by Dream Theater
God damn it's about time I face it again as well.
react La Poderosa Muerte by Los Jaivas
Would “God’s Motif”work for what you were trying to describe?
It's kind of like elevator music... if it was made by Tool
please don't take offence to this I honestly don't mean none by it. being in my mid 50s I'm guessing i am a little older than you guys and maybe grew up on what people now day's might call an earlier content than you. so, when i started seeing the man playing the piano in this lighting you guys are using i had instant flashbacks now all i can think of while he's playing is lurch from the Adams family from the first episode of the second season. and once again please excuse me for not knowing the gentleman's name playing the piano
8:40 Don't feel bad for this comment.
I call Polyphia, "Inter-dimensional Elevator Music".
Also, do you guys know about The Aristocrats? If Judson likes jazzy stuff, he'll love The Aristocrats. Bad Asteroid and Get It Like That are both bangers. Go for the live versions.
I’m not familiar with The Aristocrats. Judson might be. I’ll ask.
@@Greatmeasures The Aristocrats are beastly. Guthrie Govan and Marco Minneman might be the best guitarist and drummer out there right now.
I'm aware I'm saying this under a Polyphia video.
Playing god is a double entendre. It can be read as in "acting as god" or you can read it as "a god of playing (guitar)". Also note that the drummer comes from a drumline background so he is very good at supporting his band. Really all of your questions can be answered by the band themselves. Just go to their youtube channel. If you respect them then go and learn about them and come back and examine their music.
Maybe another way to talk about the god side of this conversation is to take a more Tolkien perspective than a Christian one. Tolkien describes the creation of middle earth as a song between god (Eru Ilúvatar who walked through the empty halls), angels (Valar/Mariar) that sing Music of Ilúvatar to create the world. If they're into fantasy I could see just creating music together, and if it's good, then it's playing god. But all creation and music is crazy creative does that.
Just watch G.O.A.T by polyphia 😂
Incredible players all around, but hell... their music just isn't for me. Some great sounding licks here and there, but so damn boring all around. I'd rather listen to some Aristocrats instead.
I'm with you 100%. I'm a lifelong gigging guitarist myself, and while I absolutely appreciate the sheer technicality of Polyphias playing, I just can't get into their songs. It has nothing to do with the lack of vox since I love some other instrumental bands, but their music just almost feels robotic to me. Maybe it has something to do with Tim writing their music via midi and then learning it on their instruments? I dunno, it's just not for me.
Agreed. Incredible musicians. But really boring repetitive tracks. Oh look arpeggios and harmonics again.
Is he trying to say that theyre playing music in a way that they believe would contextualize gods energy?
dang im here early
I can listen to Polyphia and appreciate the technical abilities. Would i listen to it for pleasure? No.
Is Judson suggesting God has a “vibe”?
music only musicians can listen too... its not pleasurable otherwise .
playing god is abt tricking god (elites, politicians) but failed, therefore remain souless slave appreciating busy and chaotic machine-like culture of the lost future... its very dark n hopeless.
Clowncore - Computers (video). Thank me later.
... did you guys really go back and scrub any mention of Judson being a classically trained musician? That's just really odd.
It was a decision we made a couple of months ago. While Judson is classically trained, he doesn’t like to talk about music from an educated view point. I felt like it might be a little misleading to brand it as “classical musician reacts” and never have him speak about the music from a training or “theory” perspective. Just didn’t want it to seem like clickbait.
@@Greatmeasures You know, that's really well thought out. I appreciate the answer, thank you kindly.
@@Erichwanh you’re welcome! I’m glad that cleared it up. Thanks for hanging out with us.
God's "psychy"?
I've come to the conclusion that playing guitar is overrated anyway. It's all about the spoons from here.
I’ve been practicing
Math rock is basically complex elevator music. Polyphia definitely sits tangential to the math rock vibe.
jajaja totally
What relation does math rock have to elevator music in any sense? It's always struck me as distinctly disrespectful to the genre to describe it as even adjacent to elevator music.
@@cankledankle6498 Sonic. 1 word. The list goes on but if you're willing to ignore the obvious I'm willing not to waste time.
@@6ic6ic6ic Sonic? As in it sounds similar? What music are they playing in the elevators you've been in? I'm not ignoring the obvious in any way. I'm acknowledging the obvious fact that math rock, especially Polyphia, is quite far from being able to be considered "elevator music." If the list goes on, then let it go on. I'm failing to see your point.
@@6ic6ic6ic If I were to place a bet, i'd bet that you heard the second half of this song and extrapolated the energy that it conveyed to the rest of the "math rock" genre (which Polyphia isn't even really representative of in the first place.) The second half of Playing God isn't elevator music in any way, though. It's Bossa Nova, sure, but not elevator music. It varies dynamically and brings a distinct energy pushing the song to its end. Elevator music is characterized by its monotony and "ease of listening." Those are certainly not descriptors I would use to describe the absolute shred at the end of Playing God.
if you put away all those unnesessary quick passages whould it be anyhing interesting in this music for people to talk about?
Gonna offer some criticism. Way too much time was spent discussing the title of the song.
So you want basic chords instead of arpeggios, but if they go softer, you don't like it? Yeah makes as much sense as my ex.
Imho this is one of their weaker songs... Still great band.
Geniusly dumb?