Really?? Hahahaha that would be awesome. On another note, have you tried the Skyzone V02+ or what they are called. basically the most recent. Are they better than fatsharks?
I recently bought these. As a beginner in the FPV world, they seem like a good compromise with respect to price (I think the price is back around $100 again). I hadn't seen your review (but had seen other FOV-critical reviews) and now that I have seen it, I will say this: It is accurate, and I don't agree with it. Your technical facts are OK, but your negative attitude judges them too harsly. I do not think you are able to mention a single other goggle in the same price range, and that is truly what it's all about. FOV: Yes it is very small, but it works. The adjustments of the lenses helps a lot. You get FPV. Picture quality: Yes it is in a tunnel. But it can easily be adjusted to be sharp, and quality (sharpness and color) is pretty good. Power: Yes, the battery is smaller in capacity than for Fatshark, but still it lasts a pretty long time. Maybe the fatsharks require more power with their larger display modules and extra receiver for diversity? DVR: The external DVR module works and is pretty low priced, too. Yes, it isn't as sleek as onboard DVR, but again: It works, and still is less than half the price of any Fatshark goggle. Antenna diversity: It is antenna diversity. It is not fake diversity, but it is not as good as receiver diversity. I think practical use will be the true judge here. Foam thickness: Yes. Too thick. Thinner may be ordered now. USB plug: You are wrong here, I think. The USB may actually be used as an alternative power source. Need power while charging the battery? Use a power bank! Weight and size: These are pretty light and handy. Box goggles (for instance) are not. All in all: Yes, you get less than if you get Fatsharks, Aomways etc. You also pay far less. I am happy with my purchase. They work. I can practice FPV flying. The true question, that you did not answer is this: Which goggles would you buy if you had about $100 to spend on goggles. Unless you have an alternative, I think your review is unecessary harsh. For other beginners on a budget (like me): If FOV is the most important for you, I think box goggles is the only real alternative these days unless you want to pay substantially more.
thank you for this as i am looking at it as my beginner goggles....while looking at the review I was also waiting to hear what were his recommendations and he did not give any
Thanks for your reply. I'm looking to just get "my feet wet" in FPV and don't know if I'll like it or even if my reflexes are fast enough, at my age, to even fly FPV ! So, I'm looking for something, at this time , that's gonna get the job done. I DO appreciate the honesty of the review though.
I don't understand most of you in this hobby doing reviews ? I come from Hot Rods & street rods scene . we compare apples to apples . if it cost is $100 you compare it to the same type products around $100 not something 3 times more expensive . All i see is it being compared to $450 Goggle . how much unfair is that ! Not saying their are any good . Come on at least show me a better goggle in the same price range ! Or can you ?? If not the these are a good goggle for the price .
you're right - there are no real competitors in this pricerange. but if a product does dissapoint you (because too small screens for example) it doesnt matter how cheap they were - it would be just wasted money. since I have the chance to compare I had to point out why, at least for me, FOV is so important...
You're totally "correct" that we can't compared orange to apple vs price $$$ (don't disagree there). But for those that just step-in the hobby, it's fair for us to know and understand the hardware we're about to buy. We like to invest in things that we can grow with it down the path, therefore, it's nice to know what we're getting into - knowledge is the KEY!. Keep up your great reviews RCSchim.
Scott Brown you missing the point it cost these slick no good for nothing conmen sale reviewers not a dime they get the products for free we the buyers part with our hard earned cash for rubbish that's it in a nutshell we get robbed stupid by these fools that could not fly a kite in a hurricane the majority of them that i.v seen sucks. I day ban then from you tube get them banned be gone with them sewer rats is all they is
For a beginner like me this goggles are totally fine. You get what you pay for and please stop comparing a 77€ goggle with 3-500€ top end products. You are saying don't buy the EV100, yet you have an affiliate link in the description...
I dont use affilate links! the shortlinks are either just for shortening and keeping the infobox tidy, or often the companies (like here) supply links I have to use. It's then a campaing link where they see (and measure) how much sales come from my review. I get no % of sales, it only helps them judge whom to support I guess. If I was to get money off such sales - this would influence me for sure. Nobody could stay unbiased. I still dont think beginners should make their first flights with such tiny goggles (and here they are smaller then pretended. they are 24 instead of 28°...
So say what google beginner like me should buy. If i can't spend more than 200USD with shipping and customs on FPV googles? You just it is bad but i didn't see in any comment what you suggest.
aliasx666 what you say is mostly true.....BUT I was new not long ago and got my first set of FPV goggles maybe three...four years ago....the Eachine EV007's I believe they were and worked fine for learning and were way less money than these here then graduated to the Eachine Goggles Two for $149 and they are WAY better than these in this video even tho these are the small two monitor "type" like Fats and others.....Now I guess a year or two farther did feel I could afford to fork over $300 for the Aomway commander V1's and LOVE THEM for I love 16:9 all the way anyway reason I upgraded to Goggles Two...And this is my next upgrade so for bout a year have had these and STILL will NOT fork over $500 for a measly set of the goggles ONLY then $200 for the diversity RX and antenna's and all you DO NOT get with sharks no not until I may strap a set to MY OWN head and see if they are worth any more than I paid for the commnders....stupidity is not funny....And I have NO hobby store within a 200 mile range maybe more that have ANY OF THIS STUFF!! So I HAVE to go on what I think and what I watch and this guy is TOTALLY right about some reviewers that I too believe are "way TOO INTO" these places sending them free stuff to give an honest review when something does NOT even COMPARE!! It is selling out and BS!! If you are going to go to the trouble to do a review on something and have ANY experience what so ever TELL THE DAMNED TRUTH THAT IS ALL FOR SOME OF US WATCH THIS CRAP FOR A REASON!!!!! And honestly yes they are box style and unless you are TOTALLY AGAINST THAT ALL TOGETHER PERIOD THE Eachine oh VR D2 Pro with DVR I would TOTALLY imagine beat these things up one handed!!!
My 50' TV which I use for flight simulators and sits about 8 feet away is a slightly smaller FOV than these goggles. So honestly the FOV isn't a issue with me. I've been flying EV800D's for several years now and getting used to these was not hard for me at all.
Thanks for the honest review! I agree I couldn't fly with them because the image was so small. I sold mine on eBay. Fatshark has a new release of the transformer coming out, the fsv1105 that I'm interested in but no DVR
I'm glad you gave one alternative, but everyone immersed in the hobby says to get Fatsharks. People interested in getting involved in flying aren't going to get Fatsharks. Honestly they SHOULDN'T get Fatsharks. Trying to coax someone into spending over $500 for one component isn't helping them any. Let them get the cheaper alternative, let them get the feel of flying and see if they want to get more involved with more expensive higher quality parts. Telling people that they need to take out a second mortgage for a hobby that they might not even want to continue is turning a lot of people off before they even start.
Totally agree too. Far too much sobbery and boasting/showing off going on in this hobby. Then there's the people who think and act like you shouldn't be allowed to even think of buying an rc unless you buy the most expensive gear. I buy what I can afford and take my time to aquire everything I need. This way I can buy tougher better built stuff that lasts, regardless of the brand. I don't equate quality with a brand name. I look at the product, read reviews (much more than 1) and usually focus on the lower rated reviews since they'll alert you to any common issues or might be relatable to how I plan to use them. Price is a bit indicative of quality but not entirely. I hate guys who go to an rc meet and rhyme off all their parts and gear and their worth. Give me specs snd honest experience, not a recital of all your receipts. Rc snobs and braggers need to gtfoh. Also judgemental old folk that think your foam, hand made, electric plane shouldn't be allowed at the field or whatever. Then theres the "ONLY my way is the right way" guys. I cant think of a type I hate more than those guys.
An honest review thanks! I asked any times how is the fov and it was always brushed over , saying it was fairly small but not at all a problem, I avoided buying them because I suspected the fov would be too small and you have just confirmed my suspicions , I will stick with my Hyperion f640 which were £80 too...
Hey! Good to see honest unhyped reviews, I really appreciate That!. I own a set of the ev100 goggles and when they first arrived I had that same wtf feeling you had when you first try them. I was sooo disappointed, fortunately for me, I had a technical issue with my goggles and was able to get a refund from banggood. I was later able to repair the issue, but after tossing them aside for a while, a buddy of mine came to fly tiny whoops in my garage and his box goggles died, so I told him I'd let him use mine and I'd suffer through the ev100 tunnel vision. It was awful at first, but believe it or Not, I've actually really grown to like them, and It seems that my eyes have adjusted to them quite well. They somehow 'feel' as if the screens are bigger. Even as I write this, I remember that righteous hate I had on for these goggles, but if they died on me, I'd actually probably get another pair. Maybe I'm crazy, but my opinion of these goggles has improved a great deal since I first tried them.
FPV Under250 thanks for sharing this. This shows how good tge brain can adapt to non - perfect conditions. I could force myself to fly many flights with them and see iff it happens to me as well. But in the other side i just wanna enjoy flying :)
RCSchim I'll be the first to admit, it did take quite some time to get used to them, but for anyone who already purchased a pair of these goggles and can't afford to get something different, it should be comforting to know that it's just a matter of getting used to them. With that being said, I think i have a preference for a less immersive fov. I think these are definitely suited to those who find extremely immersive goggles disorienting.
I am 62 years old, I own 4 sets of FatSharks, I love my EV100's. I can bring them into perfect focus, something I can't do with my FatSharks even with $60 optic add-on's. I purchased 21 pair of them for a Boy Scout High Adventure here in Michigan that took place 2 weeks ago, every pair worked flawlessly. There was no way more expensive goggles could have been purchased as there were 16 scouts and 4 leaders. To say we should not buy these is a dis-service to those not receiving free goggles to review and those without the extra expendable income you have. Don't listen to this guy, if they are what fits your budget then by all means purchase a pair. When I first spun the dials on the bottom to focus them I never expected what happened, not only could I read every word of the OSD, I could see the dots after each word. I have never been able to read the OSD on my FatSharks let alone even know their are periods after the letters.
It's always hard to wait and hold back pulling that (add to shoppingcart)-trigger. I know. But waiting a bit and reading/viewing reviews, reacitons and problems on RCGroups is a good way to safe you some troubles!
I think you are TOTALLY off base here. Yes, everything is true, no diversity, small fov. etc. BUT, THEY ARE ONLY $150.00 NOW. Fatsharks, Commanders, etc. totally ridiculous what they charge. You're a pro, sure, go for the $500.00 a pair, but for a newbie or a "poor" (me) person, they're great. Clear screens, good reception (oh no!, no diversity ! BFD, as long as I got a signal, I don't care how you get it to me) MUCH better looking than wearing one of the bucket sized goggles screen setups.
Compare to Aomway commander v1's....$300 AS GOOD AS FATS I think!! Yes twice what these cost but I myself would rather have a GOOD set of box than these!! Like what I had the Eachine Goggles Two and ones I have not tried but would imagine from my prior experience with ones mentioned the Eachine VR D2 Pro's are better as well at $88!!!! SNAP now what??
for us glasses wearers who dont want to have to swap diopter lenses every time someone wants to "see" thru the goggles. the adjustable ev100s were great for starters. there might be "better" but by the time you pay for Fatsharks to be superior in all ways, modules, antennas, lenses, etc you're nowhere close in price. But then there are people who want everyone to spend on the elite gear, then find out the vertigo is something the buyer cannot overcome, so they can swoop in and score more "used" gear for cheap lol. Relatively tiny FOV, but when you're focussed, its like those of us who got used to much tinier cell phone screens
It seems that you are using the original foam that comes with the EV100 - it's strongly suggested to use a thinner foam (1.5-2.5mm) to avoid the tunnel effect and give a bigger picture.
Nice review Mario, that's why I'm subscribed! Ahh the old days of youtube when people posted videos fueled by passion....not ad revenue. As a beginner I started out with quanum boxes and loved them! Still keep them around for spectators. Happy Flying!
In theory passion is the best fuel to be sucessful in life. But currently we are facing more and more "algorithms" that use the massive ammount of data available. These programs are created to maximize revenue. It's everywhere.
pez mentioned the screen size here ruclips.net/video/aXBiKreCbJQ/видео.htmlm39s and I mention my thoughts on the small picture here ruclips.net/video/aXBiKreCbJQ/видео.htmlm22s Maybe we have different eyes but 100% I would take these any day when racing over a box goggle. nothing about keeping banggood happy or not. I honestly thought they were great for the price and were definitely flyable. Could be something to do with you comparing them to your normal dominators when im comparing them to my aomways. % wise vs the aomways the difference is less.
maybe we have just very different taste when it comes to the FOV topic. I learned here in my comment section that some racers tend to use smaller FOV preferrable. As I said, as the scenery lover I am I need large FOV. Maybe that's why I had this WTF moment first. But still - if you compare the 28° (claimed) with 32 or 35° the difference is to big. I will do a math estimation on how much smaller they are actually...
bingo - there we have it: I always knew that with the right goggles I could be a kickass racer. So these damn DomHDs were the cause for all of my slow flying :) (nah, serious I never would get a decent time on a track)
I totally agree with stew, started with box goggles and didn't like them, went to some Teleporters I picked on the cheap ($20 more than what I picked these up for) and my flying got way better with those . These are leaps and bounds better than Teleporters and cheaper. The resolution is what sold me....
Thanks for your courage to take an honest review .. I wish everyone would be like you, then these 'review videos' would actually be helpful :) Anyway, I just subscribed to your channel and look forward to seeing more !
got mine today, (forUSD$100 ) blown away by the difference it makes to my noob tinywhooping. the image is so clear and bright that my skills suddenly got sharp too. I understand all the tech criticism but, really, for a hundred bucks, the better view, weight and feel compared to even the best face esky is huuuuge. also, no spectacles needed for me and many others is an extra freedom in the air.
congrats Tony - glad they "serve" you well (sorry, had to....) good to read that some of you guys actually like the goggles and can fly with the picture. you're right - since the image is small the sharpness and image quality looks really good!
I like your reviews and critical eye. Of course it's easier to be sharp when it's a small area, but that small image in the EV feels like it gives me more useful eye data, more visual cue acuity, than the much bigger screens on box sets. I'm all about the subjective, and for me, they raised my enjoyment level and my meagre abilities. I do get that I can expect a whole other level above this when I can afford several hundred bucks for a Fattie or Aomie. cheers, tony
First I bought a Skyzone V2+ 3D but was not satisfied, now looking for a cheap one or a better than skyzone if I can sell the skyzone. You could help me to make the decision! This is one candidate for the: - very low pice 99dollars today... - IPD and focus distance both can be tuned for each eye (for one of my eyes I see far and for one near... bot mostly far) - sponge is wide enough - has a fan/airflow - has battery - can be modded to add my separate DVR or receiver unit My second candidate is Aomway Commander 1, what I like: - a bit very expensicve - can accept 3D side by side, but just like a cardboard so aspect ratio is lost... (resolution is not the best thou) - better FOV - unfortunately not compatible with 2channel 3D FPV like the skyzone was so I have to sell my 3D can and VTX too....
Finally an honest review! Great job in describing exactly what this goggles are. Unfortunately , like you mentioned in your review, some of the other guys guys that are getting free stuff from banggood, are giving false reviews about the products they are getting. I was fool enough to buy this goggles based on the review of one of those guys... your review is 100% accurate,... this goggles are almost useless! the best feature they do have that other vendors should incorporate, is the ability to focus the image to do the exact correction for each of your eyes. Other than that this product should not be bought by beginners or experienced pilots. I agree with your review 100% and that is the reason I subscribed in your channel... we need real and honest reviews. I will be giving away my EV 100 googles for anyone in my flying club who wants them as these are the worse googles I ever tried for the reasons you describe... the FOV is so small, you can't hardly fly. I don't usually think negative about products, but my advice to anyone that want to get into FPV, don't get fooled by the initial price of $99 for this goggles, you are better of with "box goggles"
So come on... You start with the "base" model of fatshark at the"base" price, but who keeps it at that level? Add diversity modules, diopter adapters, upgrade antennas, upgrade the battery... *_and that's why fatshark are so awesome ‼_* What we really need is competition at the entry level. Color me not impressed at your review of the features in your imagination and not reviewing what the product actually is. OMG , my Toyota Camry doesn't have as much horsepower as the Ferrari, so it can't be any good ‼😱
Exactly he is comparing a ferrari / Lambo with a Ford/ Renault car NOT even that when i was 18 just bought my first car to drive arround I will bought a cheap car to get better before i go buy a expensive mercedes and trash it within first 2 years same goes for this BEGINNERS do not wanna spend 300 500 euro /dollars on goggles then to just find out ITS not the thing they wanna do, also like MANY reviews talk about its perfect to begin with those that get into the hobby wanna get better upgrade anyhow along side with the drone. You just dont buy the most expensive FPV drone either and on the first flight you trash it. thats just dumb.
THIS IS WHERE SAY THE AOMWAY'S COME INTO PLAY!!!?? I HAVE NEVER USED FAT SHARK ANYTHING, NEVER EVEN LOOKED THROUGH THEM WHERE I LIVE THEY DO NOT EXSIST SO I DON'T HAVE THE PLEASURE OR OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN "TRY" THEM AND CANNOT SEE MYSELF SHELLING OUT $500 FOR ONLY THE GOGGLES NO MORE AND FORKING OUT ANOTHER $200 FOR GOOD DIVERSITY RX AND ANTENNA AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS NOT INCLUDED WITH FAT SHARK SO MAY NEVER KNOW IF THEY ARE BETTER THAN AOMWAY COMMANDERS I HAVE BUT I STARTED WITH BOX GOGGLES MYSELF AND THEY WORKED GREAT AND I WOULD BET A CONIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY WERE WAY BETTER THAN THESE CRAPPERS HERE AND THEN DECIDED I DID WANT TO SEE IF I LIKED THE MONITOR ON EACH EYE AND THEN THE AOMWAYS CAME OUT AND IN 16:9 RATIO AND PERSONALLY I PREFER THAT TOTALLY ANYWAY FOR MY BOX GOGGLES WERE AND REASON I PURCHASE THEM AS WELL THE EACHINE "GOGGLES TWO" AND INSTALLED MY OWN DVR ON THEM WITHOUT MY GOGGLE VISION BEING EFFECTED WITH LATENCY FOR ONLY USED THE VIDEO LINE AS A INPUT TO THE DVR NOT CUT IT AND IN AND OUT BACK INTO THE GOGGLES BUT YET A "Y" JUNCTION AS TO BE TWO SEPERATE ENTITEIS.......COPY???? MY MAIN POINT IN ALL OF THIS IS REVIEWERS BE FREAKIN HONEST I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHO SENDS YOUR ASSES WHAT!! I DO REVIEWS AND AM TRYING TO GET MY CHANNEL GOING BUT IT IS MOSTLY SELF SUPPORTED AND PROBABLY BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT I WILL SAY WHAT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS AND GIVE HONEST UNBIASED VIEW ON ANY ITEM AT ANY PRICE!! AND NOT AT THE COST OF PEOPLE WHO DO WATCH ME AND MY CRAP AND TAKE WHAT I SAY FOR ME TELLING THE TRUTH!! WORD!!
Yep. Finding a good shot of the FOV on video was the deciding factor for me. I decided to pull the plug and stick with my VR D2s. Already spent the money on more quad stuff!
Danke, werd ich (weitermachen). Leider wurde mir grad das nächste BrillenReview (AOMWay Commander V1s) abgesagt, weil diese anscheinend nicht mehr produziert werden (die waren kurz jetzt mal auf 180$ herunten). Macht auch nix, DJI HD Zeitalter ist angebrochen!
News just in, cheap entry level goggles aren't as good as high level goggles that are 3x the price... These goggles are fine for someone's first pair of goggles. Box goggles probably are better to start out with but they're big things to kart around. The FOV might not be the claimed 28degs but removing that thick foam massively improves on the 'stock' FOV
i have these goggles. came from box goggles (ev800d ). 28 degrees feels about as immersive as sitting in front of a computer screen, its not bad in my opinion actually rather nice coming from the boxes. honestly it seems like a lot of the YT pilots have sticks up their ass when it comes to this stuff, i have to buy my FPV stuff on a budget. 300 dollars is not something i can just toss around. given the price and considering lower resolution, i would take the smaller/ relatively sharper image over the 480p movie theater that i am used to. as for lack of diversity i barely used it on my eachine Ev800d which has true diversity. so i'm not really losing anything. maybe tonnes of goggles out there do what the ev100 can do and more, but few of them are at or below its price range.
Ok yes they're not perfect but as a cheap entry level goggle they do the job, the key selling point for me was the adjustable lenses, no other goggles have that yet. Yes it's narrow but honestly, you learn to work with what you have. If I had several hundred to spend on some decent ones I would, this is allowing the hobbyists that don't have a fortune to spend on it an opportunity to get away from the clunky box on the head.
Thanks for the honest review. I actually canceled my $99 preorder and will stick to my cheaper "FaceBox" Quanum Cyclops with the double fresnel mod and "IMAX-like" FOV. If you don't have an immersive feel of flying, then what's the point of FPV?
that's what I say! but seems like some are focused on racing and like smaller fov better. I also suspect that many dont take the FPV cams lens into consideration. maybe they would enjoy larger FOV goggles when using 2.1mm lenses...
As I predicted after my critical review of the original Wizard X220s, Bangood didn't send *ME* any of these for review. I guess that after this review, you might also be off their "friendly reviewer" list :-) Being totally objective has a price -- but thumbs up to you Mario for not being a shill. My interest in these googles would be to see how they've set up that passive diversity -- I've never seen such a system that didn't actually create more problems than it solved.
check the link in my infobox abouth this blogpost. the guy has some very closeup pics of all the electronix in there. when seeing this I immediatly thought of you going over these... Thanks for your support Bruce. You ever since led the way with good reviews. AndyRC was quite ok with the range while testing. I still dont fully understand the cheap Antenna Diversity to be honest. Do you have a video on that matter? :) I just noticed that this Fatshark module with 2 antennas (the early one) with Antenna diversity, it was actually worse than a normal module. only the Laforge style diversities now (and the realAcc....) are good I think. Still - for diving I prefer a steady FR632 on a tripod... Speaking of which - I want something better than the FR632 - but I dont wanna invest in a clearview. Where's the middleground? A highly sensitive diversity RX?
I used the Quanum / Fatshark Genesis goggle for about 7 months, which allso hase a FS antenna diversity setup.. That worked out OK for me BUT.. I did have 2 instances where it completely lost reception (I wasn't flying far away at all.. It just didn't switch).. I wouldn't be To worried by the way.. I've done several negative reviews and they still talk to me..
Thanks for the honest review, I really appreciate it! For someone who has never flown FPV before and wants to get into the hobby without spending huge amounts of money, would you still not recommend these? I understand the FOV is pretty garbage but I feel like that's what you get for paying 1/3 of the price of the high-end goggles. They still do the job right?
thanks, not quite sure if you make fun of me or if you actually like the idea. Seems like not too many ppl covered this relation... (and then they blame huge FOV goggles for making them dizzy...)
For 100 bucks its a good goggel . In practice the smaller view is no big probleem. And the picture is sharp. I say , why compare just test for wats it's worth. Thats my opinion.
LIKE the honesty! kudos to you Mario. ive even bought this in their lowest sale(89usd) and had to bail out a few hours after , when a flying buddy of mine told me FOV was crap. but hey, this would have to be the cheapest so far, electronics optics and everything compared to box goggles. have a couple of them. EV800 and the VR006(crazy design had me cross-eyed). keep it up man!
Hi I like your honesty with those glasses. I own a Phantom 3 standard. I use a RCA tablet 7.0 Its a great tablet but the brightness is terrible in sunlight. I been trying to find a cheap pair of goggles to hook to the HDMI port of my tablet to use the goggles as a monitor. But find it very hard to find a pair that isn't so expensive. I'm 60 years old and I just cant afford the top end goggles. Those white goggles look like it has such a tiny screen on them. That wont work for me to small. Its like looking through those peep holes in a door to see who is on the other side lol. If you have a cheap suggestion on a pair of goggles that have a HDMI port to hook to my tablet I'm all ears. Thank you for your honest review of them. You have a great channel.
Kim thanks, if you need hdmi look for example at the eachine goggles two. I already tested them. Cheap as hdmi comes only info the form of box goggles.
Thank's RCS been driving me nuts trying to find a goggle that will hook to my tablet. The sun beats the heck out of my tablet so hard to see. If you have time. Check out some of my flights with the Phantom just may like them. I'm a beginner with this bird but think I'm doing well enough. Thanks for the info appreciate it
Not a damned thing wrong with that for sure AT ALL!! For I used the Eachine Goggles Two for a VERY long time and was TOTALLY happy with them and was not comfortable or have big enough pocketbook to shell out $500 for ONLY the goggles then $200 for EVERYTHING that DOES NOT COME WITH THEM!!! I know have the Aomway's Commanders and LOVE THEM!! I can't imagine Fat's being any or much better and spent I think $325 or so and you get EVERYTHING except the batter but a balance converter as you may use ANY Lipo you wish with them!! So NO BRAINER for me and I felt I could afford that for the entire package diversity BUILT in! For I still WILL NOT shell out that kind of cash on a set of goggles unless I can stap the bastards on my own head and see what I see and where I live there is NO hobby store NONE that even have anything like any of this stuff. So again I may never know what Fat Sharks are all about but feel I am not missing much if anything!!! THX!!
Great vidio, love your tell it how it really is attitude, just because its free doesn't mean its quality and i have so much more time for the reviewer's who review for for their viewers rather than their, supliers. Subbed and keep it up.
Thanks man! Was about to order em after i just quickchecked stu's review.... Just goin for the aomway Commander for xmas then. My firefly 8s will arrive tomorrow ;) Gonna test it thursday or friday and will tell you if it is really as awesome as i assume. Thanks for this review anyways und grüsse aus Osnabrück/DE ;)
Thank you for a honest review I would hate FPV if I bought them and the field of view was so bad . this would be my first goggles. Can you recommend a starter one that doesn break my wallet
I know that this is old but you are totally lying. UAVfutures absolutely did mention the field of view several times in his video. Explained that it was much smaller then his other 2 favorite goggles and even stated the field of view in degrees. He was giving them a thumbs up for value for money. Some people can't afford 300 to 600 dollar goggles and what he did was rate them on a what you get for the price basis. Seems like your just jealous.
#31: Good review Mario, but keep in mind, if you ask a Lexus driver to give his opinion on a fiat 500, you probably get the same result. but thousands just love that car as there first car. Just giving my thoughts here.
I would love to race with a Fiat 500 thru the hills of Toscany rather than with a Lexus :) Yes, I see your point. From my view I thought nobody could want that small of a picture. But seems like there are some pilots that are ok with it. The "cheap goggles" point here is an illusion. they add up to 175$ now if you buy the DVR, and you still get a product that I think will not make you happy...
Agree on both, the price getting out of hand and it is not a cheap goggles anymore, better to get your hands on one to try before you buy is the best way to be sure its the one for you.
You assume a lot. I do mostly indoor FPV at the moment. With a spotter, finding your drone without a DVR is not that difficult if you also have a pretty clear overview of the area where you are flying. I'd love a bigger picture, but the resolution, sharpness and colors are OK on my EV100s. With leds and buzzer on your drone, that DVR is not that big a deal (I spent a weekend with a couple of FPV racing drone pilots earlier this summer on a farm with a field with pretty tall grass, and we always found the drone, but some of us worked as spotters, which helped. They had Fatsharks, but none of them used the DVR feature).
SO in order to fly FPV you need to spend $350.00 on goggles. Geez thanks for your honest review. I liked the part where you spent over 800.00 on Fatsharks. Stew gave that review because he wanted those of us that dont have thousands of dollars to spend on goggles an option. Secondly, why dont you just come out and say you are jealous of not only Stews views but also his Patreon account. Lastly, this may come as a shock but not everyone flys a $1500.00 drone outside. Some of us dont have wide open fields around us to go flying in, so we fly mostly indoors. If you want more subs give me options, instead of just telling me these suck. SO what other 150.00 option would you propose? Oh the $350.00 Topsky? Thanks bro.
No, to fly FPV you can get away with as little as 40$ I guess (cheapest box goggles). I still dont understand why so many users dont like them... Main difference between box and "normal" goggles: box makes you look to a very near object, almost crosseyed, normal goggles let you look "straight". Box are much easier and can achieve large screen so easy, normal goggles need complicated and high quality optics inside (that's the most expensive part at least in Fatsharks I read) Where's the part where I spent 800$ for FS? Maybe combined... the domHDs are 400-500$ I guess (didnt research this) I still believe that spending 100$ (or now rather 160+$) for the EV100 is throwing money out of the window. If you're on a budget at least try the box goggles... I think I somewhere already wrote as a joke "maybe I'm just jealous about him being the first to review and have so many views". sure true :) It's always a race for the reviewers out there. Some (like Bruce in NZ) have a unfair disadvantage of very long delivery time :) I'm a bit fed up with the fact tho that: if you put out a fast review you get many views, whereas if you take your time, test them extensivly... you have a lot of work but also low viewcount - since others were faster... (compare my Mavic review with the first Mavic reviews for example). Please check the videos linked at the end of this review - I already did some goggles comparisons, reviews. ATM: quite some movement.... Options? Cyclops2 (still like em the most of the cheap ones), maybe the Fatshark Transformers (but I didnt try them), TopSky FX7 - can only say they look good, would love to test them, dont think I will get em :) hope this justifies pressing that sub button now :) (and go ahead and also hit the bell :)
Thanks for confirming for me that I didn't want these goggles, I'm getting into fixed wing and want wide view. You brought up a lot of important points that beginners will appreciate (even if Banggood doesn't) like getting the right camera to match. All of my cameras are 2.1 - 2.8 which won't look good or be usable if it crops too much OSD on these. I'd rather spend the extra to get what I want rather than get another cheap set that I'm not happy with. Can't wait to see your review on the FX7.
I bought the EV800 instead. Half the price and the filed of view is very nice and big. You also have the option of DVR on the EV800D which is just a bit more expensive but still cheaper than the EV100
thanks for saying the thruth about products on your reviews , it prevents us to spend tons of money on products and being disapointed at the end thanks
Good honesty. To me the most important aspect is what I can see. Thats why I went for the biggest FOV I could afford. All the bells and whistles dont mean nothing if what you see is crap.
I did the quick math: measured the diagonal lenght of each of the goggles as I filmed them. set them in relation to their claimed diagonal. found out that while the other goggles gave reasonable relations the EV100 was way off! If I correct their claimed 28° to 24° FOV - than my math is right again. (hope this makes sense). here's a pic and the xls if you wanna see what I did...: drive.google.com/open?id=0B4jolPxvBPhCRUlwMmQzNjNNUWc
nice and that is good that some one point out thous bad thins on product, because even good products has some weaknesses. AND it is important to review even bad products than just not publish them.
New subscriber here and also new to the FPV world. I bought a set of EV800 'goggles' and used them for a grand total of maybe 5 minutes before a motor on my craft bit the dust. For the time I used them though, they seemed pretty neat (mind you nothing to compare to). Anyway, all that said, it would be quite welcome if you could maybe do a video talking about lens size and field of vision and aspect ratios with goggles and all that stuff. I hear mentions of it on reviews, but so far I havent really found much information on it beyond the advice to "match" the camera with the goggles. That much, I think, is common sense, but how does lens size relate to a changing FOV? What about wide angle lenses? What about DVRs? Things like that. Either way, badass review, glad I saw it because until your review I didnt realize how narrow of view these goggles have. You saved me from a worthless purchase! And one more thing, I really hope BG doesnt put you on some blacklist or whatever. I would lose a lot of respect for them. Everyone has dud products and thats nothing I would hold against BG, but to shut down any critical reviews? Thats just a bad sign...
stu, bruce & andy rc are my go to's before I buy anything,, I take parts of all their reviews & make my own judgment based on what I think,,, I chose the skyzone 02 goggles,, & if theyre good for drew then I can live with that
Well, I got to say that I started with some box goggles with huge field of view. Then I bought my Fatshark HD3 with much smaller FOV. I instantly had a better experience with them. Then I tried the Predator V2 from a friend and liked the even smaller FOV compared to the HD3 even more. I think you have to find a balance between immersion and overview. Liebe Grüße :-)
just out of curiuosity: what lens are you using? did you try different ones or by chance eversince use 2.8 or such? I had a 2.8 on the XJaguar and it felt weird. only after swapping the lens I liked the experience...
Started with 1.8 (like Skitzo) on my box goggles. Now I'm only using GoPro lenses (which should be 2.5) with my HD3. When I tried my friends Predator 2 I also used a GoPro lens. The funniest thing is that I do need some diopters with the HD3 but didn't need any correction with the Predators.
Thanks for the video... Sadly too late, I already received them... Yes they're crap, mine even had a wiggly display, it just slides around. The fov is really tiny, too narrow lenses and it crushes my face
Hi, enjoying your videos very much. I bought some of the EV100 Goggles and can't connect with my Phantom 4 Pro at all. Is this because the antennas are reverse polarity do you think ? Thanks in advance 😀
Youre trying the impossible unfortunatley! Phantom4pro uses "Lightbridge" video transmission - most "normal" FPV goggles are NOT able to receive this direct. You need an HDMI cable from the back of your phantom transmitter (if there is non - you can get a 99$ "backpack adapter") this HDMI cable has to be connected to HDMI capeable goggles (EV100 are not...). For example some box goggles like the Eachine Goggles 2, Headplay HD,... Or go with the superb DJI goggles - but even they rely on HDMI cable on Phantom - only with Mavic and Spark they can communicate wireless... greets, Mario
RCSchim , thank you very much for your support, and super quick reply. I do have an HDMI module on my P4P remote, but unfortunately Eachine haven't released the HDMI to AV module yet. Do you think they would work well then ? Again thanks for your knowledge, you have saved me hours of frustration. Subbed already !
I dont think converting this wonderful lightbridge HD live-video to analogue and then displaying it the size of a post stamp would be a good idea. if you dont mind the looks of it, get a HDMI box goggle - and have great image there (like the eachine goggles two) or if you can spend the money, take the DJI goggles - they have the best picture I have seen yet. very large, good battery, great concept - but expensive. glad if I can help so easy :)
RCSchim thank you again, I think DJI goggles are the only way to go now, at least they are a matched product if very high quality. Great luck for your channel !
Hey Mario Super Review und ich lobe deine Ehrlichkeit.👍 Was für osd würdest du mir für 5'' racer empfehlen. Habe das micro minimosd ausprobiert aber da bekomme ich immer ein schwarzbild wenn ich vollgas gebe. Wäre super wenn du mir da was empfehlen kannst. Rssi displaying wäre auch gut wenn es das kann. Schöne Grüße aus Tirol Markus
sorry, hab schon länger keine OSDs mehr auf racern getestet. Hab auch ein MinimOSD daheim liegen aber noch nicht eingebaut. Mir fehlt da meist die Zeit bei den vielen Projekten... Am Vortex lob ich mir das integrierte ezOSD. Am Flieger hat mir zuletzt das DalRC QOSD gefallen (50$, fertig, einfach zu bedienen, mit nur einem Knopf alles zu konfigurieren, kein PC). Aber sollten moderne FC boards nicht schon selbst OSDs haben? Bzw. da gibts sicher FC+OSD combos um nicht allzu viel Geld...
I just subscribed. I have bought things in the past because I have seen good reviews of them, then they turned out to be crap, so I like it when people give honest reviews of things.
Thanks for the review, i am currently waiting for mine to arrive and I really hope I wont be too dissapointed with them. I think about maybe redesigning the case and 3d print it, so the screens get nearer to the eyes, (ofc i might need other lenses then) from what i have seen yet in reviews the displays are at least pretty sharp. With nearer screens and the mod to add a real diversity module to the goggles (thx drone mesh) those low end goggles could turn out decent. At least for the price paid i guess .. i even won something in this anniversary missions with my order :) So i´m not regreting anything yet, but lets see when they arrive xD
your plan sounds good. Kabab mentioned something similar. He gave away his and someone modifies them... The screens are of decent resolution (I guess - couldnt really tell - as small as the picture was). I'd wait and test the range of the standard VRX module. If you dont need ultra range - maybe they're fine. I found that still with the better div module in my DomHDs now: if I need confident range I use the external FR632 on a tripod. most stable image there...
Hi, I said this often: if you need to stay below 100$ for the goggles, chose from one of the many box goggles. I stopped reviewing Boxes since there are too many. Important features: DVR, diversity VRX (not only antenna diversity, real one with two RX modules). From the few I have I like the Cyclops V2 the most (even if it has only one RX and no DVR).
Thankyou for your honest insight review to the goggles, very happy with your comments. Bruce from RCModelReviews sent me here. I have now subscribed too. :-)
Good but honestly you could avoid yourself all these troubles, he's right in 2017 we should not have to buy such out-dated FPV goggles (no dvr, poor FOV, no diversity in 2017 really?) with the hypocrite argument of low price! Poor marketing in order to fool people and get their money! Shame on these people involved in this scam!
I don't have any of those goggles, but sincerely the field of view difference is minimal. look at 8:04, the box on the top of the furniture is slightly cut off on the EV100, the picture on the wall on the right side is also just a little bit cut off. No big difference in my opinion. Is the image size as small as displayed at 8:04? Thanks!
hi, the field of view - you got it wrong. on goggles you mean: how big is the impression of a screen that you see? It's mostly explained as the equation: ...you sit 2m infront of a 60" TV - vs sitting 3m away from a 40" TV. I dont know it exactly - but these goggles here are more like: you are sitting in the very last row of the cinema - and it's not the imax :) My comparison shows the correct image size between the different goggles!
- Field of view - the angle, how much is visible to left-right or up-down (that is very similar on all goggles) - "correct image size between the different goggles" - than it must mean that the EV100 has a small screen, almost 1/4 of the DOMHD.
Thank you Mario for your honesty! I was pretty disappointed when i saw the review from Stu telling us it was a great FPV Goggles, even my first FPV goggles had indeed 35° FOV! This is really a shamefull to sell these FPV goggles in 2017 and trap people with it! Have a great week and keep on flying!
Madmacs above has a vaild point that I didnt think of yet: racers might be ok with smaller screens. easier to fly? maybe us scenery oriented FPVers who fly not so fast - are more interested in a good FPV experience. so it's again a matter of taste and application. I tried my attitude SDs (with 35°) after a long time now- and was kinda ok with the size of the image. But switching to the DomHD was awesome again. And as well the boxgoggles. such a nice, large sharp image! but ok, not many racers use boxgoggles I guess :)
I wouldnt assume this. It's just a general trend that a) reviews are flooding youtube (cause the shops and vendors found that this is they cheapest way of marketing). and b) most of these reviewers either lack the knowledge to really test the stuff they're talking about, or they are influenced by capitalism (affilates, ad friendly,...). So we ended up with too many influenced influencers (and now in winter influenza will join the party :)
thanks for honest review - got to same conclusion it's way to narrow (sadly after reciving them) and now trying to replace/mod faceplate - to avoid keyhole effect and get a little closer to screens with my eyes to make FOV a little bigger. for 80$ a decent deal with a lot of moding possibility, but to be it as friendly as first reviews - have to agree - UAVfutures sold themselfs :/
Good luck on the modding at least. I found when removing the foam at all, eyes are a bit closer and image appears "a bit" larger. But the hard plasic cut the nose off your face then...
Thanks for an honest review!! I was going to buy them for 100 until I saw the fov was advertised in the 20s. I had great expectations that they would create a goggle that was as good as their vrd2 pro's. In that a goggle with a fov that would destroy the fatsharks.
I think this was an important point - since many new FPVers dont know what the FOV means and how it compares. Numbers are not as good as direct picture comparison. and this comparison should express how SMALL the image on those goggles really is. tiny. nano!
In your opinion what is a good goggle at this price point? I'm new to the sport, looking to put a camera on my Traxxas aton. Any help with equipment suggestions would be appreciated.
at this pricepoint (around 100$) it's better to get decent box goggles. lately I didnt try a lot of box goggles, but the ev800d or so - there is a pro or version 2 of them - they seem quite good. or the quanum cyclops v2 - but they are fairly old.
Good review and get what your saying about them. But I need a budget pair of goggles but I just haven't got $400 or $500 Topsky or fatshark. What would be your recommendation for a sub $150 goggles. Thanks
Rich K in this case i would try box goggles. Without even trying them (yet) i would say cyclops diversity. They just came out and i should get a review sample soon....
Loved you review, thanks a lot.I am new to this hobby. I saw vids of guys flying bwhoop b03 tiny drone indoor between furniture. Looks very precise and fun. Can you suggest transmitter and goggle(box goggle or ..) for me? I would only use them to fly this drone indoor with my families by the way.
Ykev2000 depends on budget. But for fun the box goggles are nice. Cheap but good cyclops v2. Or maybe eachine with diversity and dvr (ed800 v2?) If you invest in the future get something like a fatshark dom hd with module slot
Thanks a lot. I will check them out. How about transmitter? Do i need a nice one to fly precisely? I heard devo 10 and they flash the tiny drone with something calls silverware to use the acro mode. I am very new, just learned all the terms.
yes, definitley. I flew the first packs on a tiny drone with the cheap 10$ remote that came with it - and later had a module for my Taranis so I could use this instead. huge difference in precision. it's not always (but mostly) the pilots fault if the flight goes wrong... :) My eperience (limited) with the tiny ones and indoor flying: I never used acro mode there. it's too fast and dangerous. stable mode is way better to explore or even race indoors I think. So dont mess around with firmwares in the beginning - rather enjoy it as it is. for Remote as mentioned, I can suggest the Taranis. It's module bay is great to also use different radio systems (like TBS crossfire for speed and range on the larger quads). good luck and enjoy!
Thanks a again. Will check that. Today i learned the Jumper T8SG 4 in 1 which claims can support almost all the protcol and have deviation preinstalled. i don't know which tx can fly my bwhoop b03 drone, so may be i should get this 4 on 1 tx that has better chance it supports my drone.
There's too many reviewers sing a company's praises because they send free stuff, Bruce Simpson got crossed off Walkera's Christmas card list some years ago for being too critical. Talking about Walkera, has anyone heard any good stuff about the Vitus yet?
yay, the "knowitall" confirmed my bad impression of the tiny FOV: ruclips.net/video/WW3Go490OyM/видео.html
HAHAHAHAHA. Love the comment "the knowitall". That's Joshuas name from now on.
I think he even created this name himself (and on tshirts?)
Really?? Hahahaha that would be awesome. On another note, have you tried the Skyzone V02+ or what they are called. basically the most recent. Are they better than fatsharks?
+LokiAmir nope, not tried any skyzones yet. They mostly have around 30fov which i didn't like...
Thanks Mario. So you prefer the Fatshark HD3 right? Are they good for both racing and fixed wing fpv?
I recently bought these. As a beginner in the FPV world, they seem like a good compromise with respect to price (I think the price is back around $100 again). I hadn't seen your review (but had seen other FOV-critical reviews) and now that I have seen it, I will say this:
It is accurate, and I don't agree with it. Your technical facts are OK, but your negative attitude judges them too harsly. I do not think you are able to mention a single other goggle in the same price range, and that is truly what it's all about.
FOV: Yes it is very small, but it works. The adjustments of the lenses helps a lot. You get FPV.
Picture quality: Yes it is in a tunnel. But it can easily be adjusted to be sharp, and quality (sharpness and color) is pretty good.
Power: Yes, the battery is smaller in capacity than for Fatshark, but still it lasts a pretty long time. Maybe the fatsharks require more power with their larger display modules and extra receiver for diversity?
DVR: The external DVR module works and is pretty low priced, too. Yes, it isn't as sleek as onboard DVR, but again: It works, and still is less than half the price of any Fatshark goggle.
Antenna diversity: It is antenna diversity. It is not fake diversity, but it is not as good as receiver diversity. I think practical use will be the true judge here.
Foam thickness: Yes. Too thick. Thinner may be ordered now.
USB plug: You are wrong here, I think. The USB may actually be used as an alternative power source. Need power while charging the battery? Use a power bank!
Weight and size: These are pretty light and handy. Box goggles (for instance) are not.
All in all: Yes, you get less than if you get Fatsharks, Aomways etc. You also pay far less. I am happy with my purchase. They work. I can practice FPV flying. The true question, that you did not answer is this: Which goggles would you buy if you had about $100 to spend on goggles. Unless you have an alternative, I think your review is unecessary harsh.
For other beginners on a budget (like me): If FOV is the most important for you, I think box goggles is the only real alternative these days unless you want to pay substantially more.
thank you for this as i am looking at it as my beginner goggles....while looking at the review I was also waiting to hear what were his recommendations and he did not give any
Matthew B I’ve been using mine for 2 years and still love them, no issue with the small screens as they are nice and clear
@@MiniMattTV tnk u
Thanks for your reply. I'm looking to just get "my feet wet" in FPV and don't know if I'll like it or even if my reflexes are fast enough, at my age, to even fly FPV ! So, I'm looking for something, at this time , that's gonna get the job done. I DO appreciate the honesty of the review though.
I don't understand most of you in this hobby doing reviews ? I come from Hot Rods & street rods scene . we compare apples to apples . if it cost is $100 you compare it to the same type products around $100 not something 3 times more expensive . All i see is it being compared to $450 Goggle . how much unfair is that ! Not saying their are any good . Come on at least show me a better goggle in the same price range ! Or can you ?? If not the these are a good goggle for the price .
you're right - there are no real competitors in this pricerange. but if a product does dissapoint you (because too small screens for example) it doesnt matter how cheap they were - it would be just wasted money. since I have the chance to compare I had to point out why, at least for me, FOV is so important...
good post
You're totally "correct" that we can't compared orange to apple vs price $$$ (don't disagree there). But for those that just step-in the hobby, it's fair for us to know and understand the hardware we're about to buy. We like to invest in things that we can grow with it down the path, therefore, it's nice to know what we're getting into - knowledge is the KEY!. Keep up your great reviews RCSchim.
Scott Brown you missing the point it cost these slick no good for nothing conmen sale reviewers not a dime they get the products for free we the buyers part with our hard earned cash for rubbish that's it in a nutshell we get robbed stupid by these fools that could not fly a kite in a hurricane the majority of them that i.v seen sucks. I day ban then from you tube get them banned be gone with them sewer rats is all they is
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For a beginner like me this goggles are totally fine. You get what you pay for and please stop comparing a 77€ goggle with 3-500€ top end products. You are saying don't buy the EV100, yet you have an affiliate link in the description...
aliasx666 I think what he's saying is you could have something better for the same money. And the link in the decription is just for you bud.
I dont use affilate links! the shortlinks are either just for shortening and keeping the infobox tidy, or often the companies (like here) supply links I have to use. It's then a campaing link where they see (and measure) how much sales come from my review. I get no % of sales, it only helps them judge whom to support I guess.
If I was to get money off such sales - this would influence me for sure. Nobody could stay unbiased.
I still dont think beginners should make their first flights with such tiny goggles (and here they are smaller then pretended. they are 24 instead of 28°...
So say what google beginner like me should buy. If i can't spend more than 200USD with shipping and customs on FPV googles? You just it is bad but i didn't see in any comment what you suggest.
aliasx666 what you say is mostly true.....BUT I was new not long ago and got my first set of FPV goggles maybe three...four years ago....the Eachine EV007's I believe they were and worked fine for learning and were way less money than these here then graduated to the Eachine Goggles Two for $149 and they are WAY better than these in this video even tho these are the small two monitor "type" like Fats and others.....Now I guess a year or two farther did feel I could afford to fork over $300 for the Aomway commander V1's and LOVE THEM for I love 16:9 all the way anyway reason I upgraded to Goggles Two...And this is my next upgrade so for bout a year have had these and STILL will NOT fork over $500 for a measly set of the goggles ONLY then $200 for the diversity RX and antenna's and all you DO NOT get with sharks no not until I may strap a set to MY OWN head and see if they are worth any more than I paid for the commnders....stupidity is not funny....And I have NO hobby store within a 200 mile range maybe more that have ANY OF THIS STUFF!! So I HAVE to go on what I think and what I watch and this guy is TOTALLY right about some reviewers that I too believe are "way TOO INTO" these places sending them free stuff to give an honest review when something does NOT even COMPARE!! It is selling out and BS!! If you are going to go to the trouble to do a review on something and have ANY experience what so ever TELL THE DAMNED TRUTH THAT IS ALL FOR SOME OF US WATCH THIS CRAP FOR A REASON!!!!! And honestly yes they are box style and unless you are TOTALLY AGAINST THAT ALL TOGETHER PERIOD THE Eachine oh VR D2 Pro with DVR I would TOTALLY imagine beat these things up one handed!!!
My 50' TV which I use for flight simulators and sits about 8 feet away is a slightly smaller FOV than these goggles. So honestly the FOV isn't a issue with me. I've been flying EV800D's for several years now and getting used to these was not hard for me at all.
Thanks for the honest review! I agree I couldn't fly with them because the image was so small. I sold mine on eBay. Fatshark has a new release of the transformer coming out, the fsv1105 that I'm interested in but no DVR
Its nice to see a honest review. Thumbs up!
I'm glad you gave one alternative, but everyone immersed in the hobby says to get Fatsharks. People interested in getting involved in flying aren't going to get Fatsharks. Honestly they SHOULDN'T get Fatsharks. Trying to coax someone into spending over $500 for one component isn't helping them any. Let them get the cheaper alternative, let them get the feel of flying and see if they want to get more involved with more expensive higher quality parts. Telling people that they need to take out a second mortgage for a hobby that they might not even want to continue is turning a lot of people off before they even start.
Totally agree too. Far too much sobbery and boasting/showing off going on in this hobby. Then there's the people who think and act like you shouldn't be allowed to even think of buying an rc unless you buy the most expensive gear. I buy what I can afford and take my time to aquire everything I need. This way I can buy tougher better built stuff that lasts, regardless of the brand. I don't equate quality with a brand name. I look at the product, read reviews (much more than 1) and usually focus on the lower rated reviews since they'll alert you to any common issues or might be relatable to how I plan to use them. Price is a bit indicative of quality but not entirely. I hate guys who go to an rc meet and rhyme off all their parts and gear and their worth. Give me specs snd honest experience, not a recital of all your receipts. Rc snobs and braggers need to gtfoh. Also judgemental old folk that think your foam, hand made, electric plane shouldn't be allowed at the field or whatever. Then theres the "ONLY my way is the right way" guys. I cant think of a type I hate more than those guys.
I've used them and they actually work well for getting into the fpv
Please tell us if Banggood stop sending you stuff for review....
for sure I will keep you guys posted.
If they quit sending you stuff, then tell them to send it to me instead. I'll take it all!!!
Thanks for the honest review, mate was asking me about these and now I can pass this on to them
An honest review thanks! I asked any times how is the fov and it was always brushed over , saying it was fairly small but not at all a problem, I avoided buying them because I suspected the fov would be too small and you have just confirmed my suspicions , I will stick with my Hyperion f640 which were £80 too...
Hey! Good to see honest unhyped reviews, I really appreciate That!. I own a set of the ev100 goggles and when they first arrived I had that same wtf feeling you had when you first try them. I was sooo disappointed, fortunately for me, I had a technical issue with my goggles and was able to get a refund from banggood. I was later able to repair the issue, but after tossing them aside for a while, a buddy of mine came to fly tiny whoops in my garage and his box goggles died, so I told him I'd let him use mine and I'd suffer through the ev100 tunnel vision. It was awful at first, but believe it or Not, I've actually really grown to like them, and It seems that my eyes have adjusted to them quite well. They somehow 'feel' as if the screens are bigger. Even as I write this, I remember that righteous hate I had on for these goggles, but if they died on me, I'd actually probably get another pair. Maybe I'm crazy, but my opinion of these goggles has improved a great deal since I first tried them.
FPV Under250 thanks for sharing this. This shows how good tge brain can adapt to non - perfect conditions. I could force myself to fly many flights with them and see iff it happens to me as well. But in the other side i just wanna enjoy flying :)
RCSchim I'll be the first to admit, it did take quite some time to get used to them, but for anyone who already purchased a pair of these goggles and can't afford to get something different, it should be comforting to know that it's just a matter of getting used to them. With that being said, I think i have a preference for a less immersive fov. I think these are definitely suited to those who find extremely immersive goggles disorienting.
I am 62 years old, I own 4 sets of FatSharks, I love my EV100's. I can bring them into perfect focus, something I can't do with my FatSharks even with $60 optic add-on's. I purchased 21 pair of them for a Boy Scout High Adventure here in Michigan that took place 2 weeks ago, every pair worked flawlessly. There was no way more expensive goggles could have been purchased as there were 16 scouts and 4 leaders. To say we should not buy these is a dis-service to those not receiving free goggles to review and those without the extra expendable income you have. Don't listen to this guy, if they are what fits your budget then by all means purchase a pair. When I first spun the dials on the bottom to focus them I never expected what happened, not only could I read every word of the OSD, I could see the dots after each word. I have never been able to read the OSD on my FatSharks let alone even know their are periods after the letters.
Thank you ! a lot.
I almost bought them, but decided I was going to wait for the reviews...
It's always hard to wait and hold back pulling that (add to shoppingcart)-trigger. I know. But waiting a bit and reading/viewing reviews, reacitons and problems on RCGroups is a good way to safe you some troubles!
I think you are TOTALLY off base here. Yes, everything is true, no diversity, small fov. etc. BUT, THEY ARE ONLY $150.00 NOW. Fatsharks, Commanders, etc. totally ridiculous what they charge. You're a pro, sure, go for the $500.00 a pair, but for a newbie or a "poor" (me) person, they're great. Clear screens, good reception (oh no!, no diversity ! BFD, as long as I got a signal, I don't care how you get it to me) MUCH better looking than wearing one of the bucket sized goggles screen setups.
Compare to Aomway commander v1's....$300 AS GOOD AS FATS I think!! Yes twice what these cost but I myself would rather have a GOOD set of box than these!! Like what I had the Eachine Goggles Two and ones I have not tried but would imagine from my prior experience with ones mentioned the Eachine VR D2 Pro's are better as well at $88!!!! SNAP now what??
$95
And not even 150us,now they coat 100$ so this video is nothing even close to real rewiew
for us glasses wearers who dont want to have to swap diopter lenses every time someone wants to "see" thru the goggles. the adjustable ev100s were great for starters. there might be "better" but by the time you pay for Fatsharks to be superior in all ways, modules, antennas, lenses, etc you're nowhere close in price. But then there are people who want everyone to spend on the elite gear, then find out the vertigo is something the buyer cannot overcome, so they can swoop in and score more "used" gear for cheap lol. Relatively tiny FOV, but when you're focussed, its like those of us who got used to much tinier cell phone screens
It seems that you are using the original foam that comes with the EV100 - it's strongly suggested to use a thinner foam (1.5-2.5mm) to avoid the tunnel effect and give a bigger picture.
Nice review Mario, that's why I'm subscribed!
Ahh the old days of youtube when people posted videos fueled by passion....not ad revenue.
As a beginner I started out with quanum boxes and loved them! Still keep them around for spectators.
Happy Flying!
In theory passion is the best fuel to be sucessful in life. But currently we are facing more and more "algorithms" that use the massive ammount of data available. These programs are created to maximize revenue. It's everywhere.
pez mentioned the screen size here ruclips.net/video/aXBiKreCbJQ/видео.htmlm39s and I mention my thoughts on the small picture here ruclips.net/video/aXBiKreCbJQ/видео.htmlm22s
Maybe we have different eyes but 100% I would take these any day when racing over a box goggle. nothing about keeping banggood happy or not. I honestly thought they were great for the price and were definitely flyable. Could be something to do with you comparing them to your normal dominators when im comparing them to my aomways. % wise vs the aomways the difference is less.
maybe we have just very different taste when it comes to the FOV topic. I learned here in my comment section that some racers tend to use smaller FOV preferrable. As I said, as the scenery lover I am I need large FOV. Maybe that's why I had this WTF moment first.
But still - if you compare the 28° (claimed) with 32 or 35° the difference is to big. I will do a math estimation on how much smaller they are actually...
what FPV lenses do you usually fly with? I guess NOT 2.1mm - do you?
Maybe with 2.8mm one can get used to the small FOV on goggles...
yes, people think that getting a massive immersive experience is the best, but its actually harder to race quads with that. well for me anyway.
bingo - there we have it: I always knew that with the right goggles I could be a kickass racer. So these damn DomHDs were the cause for all of my slow flying :) (nah, serious I never would get a decent time on a track)
I totally agree with stew, started with box goggles and didn't like them, went to some Teleporters I picked on the cheap ($20 more than what I picked these up for) and my flying got way better with those . These are leaps and bounds better than Teleporters and cheaper. The resolution is what sold me....
Thanks for your courage to take an honest review .. I wish everyone would be like you, then these 'review videos' would actually be helpful :) Anyway, I just subscribed to your channel and look forward to seeing more !
got mine today, (forUSD$100 ) blown away by the difference it makes to my noob tinywhooping. the image is so clear and bright that my skills suddenly got sharp too. I understand all the tech criticism but, really, for a hundred bucks, the better view, weight and feel compared to even the best face esky is huuuuge. also, no spectacles needed for me and many others is an extra freedom in the air.
congrats Tony - glad they "serve" you well (sorry, had to....)
good to read that some of you guys actually like the goggles and can fly with the picture. you're right - since the image is small the sharpness and image quality looks really good!
I like your reviews and critical eye. Of course it's easier to be sharp when it's a small area, but that small image in the EV feels like it gives me more useful eye data, more visual cue acuity, than the much bigger screens on box sets. I'm all about the subjective, and for me, they raised my enjoyment level and my meagre abilities. I do get that I can expect a whole other level above this when I can afford several hundred bucks for a Fattie or Aomie. cheers, tony
Good on you rcschim for giving honest feedback. I bought a dys elf a while back based on your vids and was not disappointed. Subscribed.
nice to hear. the elf is not bad. I fly those things way to seldom. gotta do more fun stuff!
First I bought a Skyzone V2+ 3D but was not satisfied, now looking for a cheap one or a better than skyzone if I can sell the skyzone.
You could help me to make the decision!
This is one candidate for the:
- very low pice 99dollars today...
- IPD and focus distance both can be tuned for each eye (for one of my eyes I see far and for one near... bot mostly far)
- sponge is wide enough
- has a fan/airflow
- has battery
- can be modded to add my separate DVR or receiver unit
My second candidate is Aomway Commander 1, what I like:
- a bit very expensicve
- can accept 3D side by side, but just like a cardboard so aspect ratio is lost... (resolution is not the best thou)
- better FOV
- unfortunately not compatible with 2channel 3D FPV like the skyzone was so I have to sell my 3D can and VTX too....
Very fair review. Thank you for the honest, unbiased review. Hopefully Banggood will send you something worthy of your praise.
Finally an honest review! Great job in describing exactly what this goggles are. Unfortunately , like you mentioned in your review, some of the other guys guys that are getting free stuff from banggood, are giving false reviews about the products they are getting. I was fool enough to buy this goggles based on the review of one of those guys... your review is 100% accurate,... this goggles are almost useless! the best feature they do have that other vendors should incorporate, is the ability to focus the image to do the exact correction for each of your eyes. Other than that this product should not be bought by beginners or experienced pilots. I agree with your review 100% and that is the reason I subscribed in your channel... we need real and honest reviews. I will be giving away my EV 100 googles for anyone in my flying club who wants them as these are the worse googles I ever tried for the reasons you describe... the FOV is so small, you can't hardly fly. I don't usually think negative about products, but my advice to anyone that want to get into FPV, don't get fooled by the initial price of $99 for this goggles, you are better of with "box goggles"
So come on... You start with the "base" model of fatshark at the"base" price, but who keeps it at that level? Add diversity modules, diopter adapters, upgrade antennas, upgrade the battery... *_and that's why fatshark are so awesome ‼_* What we really need is competition at the entry level. Color me not impressed at your review of the features in your imagination and not reviewing what the product actually is. OMG , my Toyota Camry doesn't have as much horsepower as the Ferrari, so it can't be any good ‼😱
RD Simmers fatshark = over priced tunnel vision....
Exactly he is comparing a ferrari / Lambo with a Ford/ Renault car NOT even that when i was 18 just bought my first car to drive arround I will bought a cheap car to get better before i go buy a expensive mercedes and trash it within first 2 years same goes for this BEGINNERS do not wanna spend 300 500 euro /dollars on goggles then to just find out ITS not the thing they wanna do, also like MANY reviews talk about its perfect to begin with those that get into the hobby wanna get better upgrade anyhow along side with the drone. You just dont buy the most expensive FPV drone either and on the first flight you trash it. thats just dumb.
RD Simmer
RD Simmers exactly you couldn't have explained it any better..
THIS IS WHERE SAY THE AOMWAY'S COME INTO PLAY!!!?? I HAVE NEVER USED FAT SHARK ANYTHING, NEVER EVEN LOOKED THROUGH THEM WHERE I LIVE THEY DO NOT EXSIST SO I DON'T HAVE THE PLEASURE OR OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN "TRY" THEM AND CANNOT SEE MYSELF SHELLING OUT $500 FOR ONLY THE GOGGLES NO MORE AND FORKING OUT ANOTHER $200 FOR GOOD DIVERSITY RX AND ANTENNA AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS NOT INCLUDED WITH FAT SHARK SO MAY NEVER KNOW IF THEY ARE BETTER THAN AOMWAY COMMANDERS I HAVE BUT I STARTED WITH BOX GOGGLES MYSELF AND THEY WORKED GREAT AND I WOULD BET A CONIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY WERE WAY BETTER THAN THESE CRAPPERS HERE AND THEN DECIDED I DID WANT TO SEE IF I LIKED THE MONITOR ON EACH EYE AND THEN THE AOMWAYS CAME OUT AND IN 16:9 RATIO AND PERSONALLY I PREFER THAT TOTALLY ANYWAY FOR MY BOX GOGGLES WERE AND REASON I PURCHASE THEM AS WELL THE EACHINE "GOGGLES TWO" AND INSTALLED MY OWN DVR ON THEM WITHOUT MY GOGGLE VISION BEING EFFECTED WITH LATENCY FOR ONLY USED THE VIDEO LINE AS A INPUT TO THE DVR NOT CUT IT AND IN AND OUT BACK INTO THE GOGGLES BUT YET A "Y" JUNCTION AS TO BE TWO SEPERATE ENTITEIS.......COPY???? MY MAIN POINT IN ALL OF THIS IS REVIEWERS BE FREAKIN HONEST I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHO SENDS YOUR ASSES WHAT!! I DO REVIEWS AND AM TRYING TO GET MY CHANNEL GOING BUT IT IS MOSTLY SELF SUPPORTED AND PROBABLY BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT I WILL SAY WHAT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS AND GIVE HONEST UNBIASED VIEW ON ANY ITEM AT ANY PRICE!! AND NOT AT THE COST OF PEOPLE WHO DO WATCH ME AND MY CRAP AND TAKE WHAT I SAY FOR ME TELLING THE TRUTH!! WORD!!
Yep. Finding a good shot of the FOV on video was the deciding factor for me. I decided to pull the plug and stick with my VR D2s. Already spent the money on more quad stuff!
Danke für deine ehrlichen Reviews! Gibt leider nicht viele ytuber solcher Art. Mach weiter so!
Danke, werd ich (weitermachen).
Leider wurde mir grad das nächste BrillenReview (AOMWay Commander V1s) abgesagt, weil diese anscheinend nicht mehr produziert werden (die waren kurz jetzt mal auf 180$ herunten). Macht auch nix, DJI HD Zeitalter ist angebrochen!
@@Rcschim dji HD ist mir ne Nummer zu teuer, aber die Preise werden sicher fallen. Und Mal schauen was die nächsten Jahre noch kommt 🙂
News just in, cheap entry level goggles aren't as good as high level goggles that are 3x the price...
These goggles are fine for someone's first pair of goggles. Box goggles probably are better to start out with but they're big things to kart around.
The FOV might not be the claimed 28degs but removing that thick foam massively improves on the 'stock' FOV
Mario, thank you for your honest review!
i have these goggles. came from box goggles (ev800d ). 28 degrees feels about as immersive as sitting in front of a computer screen, its not bad in my opinion actually rather nice coming from the boxes. honestly it seems like a lot of the YT pilots have sticks up their ass when it comes to this stuff, i have to buy my FPV stuff on a budget. 300 dollars is not something i can just toss around. given the price and considering lower resolution, i would take the smaller/ relatively sharper image over the 480p movie theater that i am used to. as for lack of diversity i barely used it on my eachine Ev800d which has true diversity. so i'm not really losing anything. maybe tonnes of goggles out there do what the ev100 can do and more, but few of them are at or below its price range.
Ok yes they're not perfect but as a cheap entry level goggle they do the job, the key selling point for me was the adjustable lenses, no other goggles have that yet. Yes it's narrow but honestly, you learn to work with what you have. If I had several hundred to spend on some decent ones I would, this is allowing the hobbyists that don't have a fortune to spend on it an opportunity to get away from the clunky box on the head.
Thanks for the honest review. I actually canceled my $99 preorder and will stick to my cheaper "FaceBox" Quanum Cyclops with the double fresnel mod and "IMAX-like" FOV. If you don't have an immersive feel of flying, then what's the point of FPV?
that's what I say! but seems like some are focused on racing and like smaller fov better.
I also suspect that many dont take the FPV cams lens into consideration.
maybe they would enjoy larger FOV goggles when using 2.1mm lenses...
Yeah, I guess all my quads have 2.1mm lenses.
THANKS! For an honest review! Love your channel!
thank you too!
Thanks for your honesty have subscribed because of this . You also explaned what you were telling us very well keep it up ty
Thanks for the nice comment!
As I predicted after my critical review of the original Wizard X220s, Bangood didn't send *ME* any of these for review. I guess that after this review, you might also be off their "friendly reviewer" list :-) Being totally objective has a price -- but thumbs up to you Mario for not being a shill. My interest in these googles would be to see how they've set up that passive diversity -- I've never seen such a system that didn't actually create more problems than it solved.
check the link in my infobox abouth this blogpost. the guy has some very closeup pics of all the electronix in there. when seeing this I immediatly thought of you going over these...
Thanks for your support Bruce. You ever since led the way with good reviews. AndyRC was quite ok with the range while testing.
I still dont fully understand the cheap Antenna Diversity to be honest. Do you have a video on that matter? :)
I just noticed that this Fatshark module with 2 antennas (the early one) with Antenna diversity, it was actually worse than a normal module.
only the Laforge style diversities now (and the realAcc....) are good I think.
Still - for diving I prefer a steady FR632 on a tripod...
Speaking of which - I want something better than the FR632 - but I dont wanna invest in a clearview. Where's the middleground? A highly sensitive diversity RX?
+RCSchim look into LNA's (low noise amplifier) aimed at the satellite TV market. A good one should improve the signal to noise ratio.
thanks for the tip
I used the Quanum / Fatshark Genesis goggle for about 7 months, which allso hase a FS antenna diversity setup.. That worked out OK for me BUT.. I did have 2 instances where it completely lost reception (I wasn't flying far away at all.. It just didn't switch)..
I wouldn't be To worried by the way.. I've done several negative reviews and they still talk to me..
good to know. I just mailed my sales contact the video - curious how she reacts - but normally she's cool.
Thanks for extremely honest review, good luck.
I always appreciate your point of view. And its always fair. Thanks for saying what you did.
Awesome review. Had no idea about the 2.8mm/2.1mm lense stuff.
Thanks a lot :-D I was thinking about to buy one. But now I`ll look for alternative Goggles
Thanks for the honest review, I really appreciate it! For someone who has never flown FPV before and wants to get into the hobby without spending huge amounts of money, would you still not recommend these? I understand the FOV is pretty garbage but I feel like that's what you get for paying 1/3 of the price of the high-end goggles. They still do the job right?
+James Fenech i would still prefer bix goggles. Cheapest ones i know are the cyclops v2 from hobbyking. They are great. 50$?
Your point on FOV of camera matching the goggles (~7:00) - tinkle tinkle - now the penny's dropped! That makes so much sense. Bloody genius RCSchim!
thanks, not quite sure if you make fun of me or if you actually like the idea. Seems like not too many ppl covered this relation...
(and then they blame huge FOV goggles for making them dizzy...)
No not making fun at all. Great help, thank you!
For 100 bucks its a good goggel .
In practice the smaller view is no big probleem. And the picture is sharp.
I say , why compare just test for wats it's worth. Thats my opinion.
LIKE the honesty! kudos to you Mario. ive even bought this in their lowest sale(89usd) and had to bail out a few hours after , when a flying buddy of mine told me FOV was crap. but hey, this would have to be the cheapest so far, electronics optics and everything compared to box goggles. have a couple of them. EV800 and the VR006(crazy design had me cross-eyed). keep it up man!
One of the reasons i think your awesome. You have saved people money and disappointment. Thank you!
Hi I like your honesty with those glasses. I own a Phantom 3 standard. I use a RCA tablet 7.0 Its a great tablet but the brightness is terrible in sunlight. I been trying to find a cheap pair of goggles to hook to the HDMI port of my tablet to use the goggles as a monitor. But find it very hard to find a pair that isn't so expensive. I'm 60 years old and I just cant afford the top end goggles. Those white goggles look like it has such a tiny screen on them. That wont work for me to small. Its like looking through those peep holes in a door to see who is on the other side lol. If you have a cheap suggestion on a pair of goggles that have a HDMI port to hook to my tablet I'm all ears. Thank you for your honest review of them. You have a great channel.
Kim thanks, if you need hdmi look for example at the eachine goggles two. I already tested them. Cheap as hdmi comes only info the form of box goggles.
Thank's RCS been driving me nuts trying to find a goggle that will hook to my tablet. The sun beats the heck out of my tablet so hard to see. If you have time. Check out some of my flights with the Phantom just may like them. I'm a beginner with this bird but think I'm doing well enough. Thanks for the info appreciate it
I'll stick with my box goggles..
Yeah I believe me too. VRD2. Yeah.
Not a damned thing wrong with that for sure AT ALL!! For I used the Eachine Goggles Two for a VERY long time and was TOTALLY happy with them and was not comfortable or have big enough pocketbook to shell out $500 for ONLY the goggles then $200 for EVERYTHING that DOES NOT COME WITH THEM!!! I know have the Aomway's Commanders and LOVE THEM!! I can't imagine Fat's being any or much better and spent I think $325 or so and you get EVERYTHING except the batter but a balance converter as you may use ANY Lipo you wish with them!! So NO BRAINER for me and I felt I could afford that for the entire package diversity BUILT in! For I still WILL NOT shell out that kind of cash on a set of goggles unless I can stap the bastards on my own head and see what I see and where I live there is NO hobby store NONE that even have anything like any of this stuff. So again I may never know what Fat Sharks are all about but feel I am not missing much if anything!!! THX!!
I totally respect that. I think box goggles are probably a good alternative if you can take the bulky size and (probably) added weight.
You look ridiculous with box goggles
@@tsjingtsjangtsjoeng9796 Honestly, all goggles look ridiculous.
Great vidio, love your tell it how it really is attitude, just because its free doesn't mean its quality and i have so much more time for the reviewer's who review for for their viewers rather than their, supliers. Subbed and keep it up.
thanks for the Sub man!
Thanks man! Was about to order em after i just quickchecked stu's review....
Just goin for the aomway Commander for xmas then.
My firefly 8s will arrive tomorrow ;)
Gonna test it thursday or friday and will tell you if it is really as awesome as i assume.
Thanks for this review anyways
und grüsse aus Osnabrück/DE ;)
rumtata wait for TopSkys man...
KrzychOlsztyn ok....will do.....thanks;)
Thank you for a honest review I would hate FPV if I bought them and the field of view was so bad . this would be my first goggles. Can you recommend a starter one that doesn break my wallet
I know that this is old but you are totally lying. UAVfutures absolutely did mention the field of view several times in his video. Explained that it was much smaller then his other 2 favorite goggles and even stated the field of view in degrees. He was giving them a thumbs up for value for money. Some people can't afford 300 to 600 dollar goggles and what he did was rate them on a what you get for the price basis. Seems like your just jealous.
#31: Good review Mario, but keep in mind, if you ask a Lexus driver to give his opinion on a fiat 500, you probably get the same result. but thousands just love that car as there first car. Just giving my thoughts here.
I would love to race with a Fiat 500 thru the hills of Toscany rather than with a Lexus :)
Yes, I see your point. From my view I thought nobody could want that small of a picture. But seems like there are some pilots that are ok with it. The "cheap goggles" point here is an illusion. they add up to 175$ now if you buy the DVR, and you still get a product that I think will not make you happy...
Agree on both, the price getting out of hand and it is not a cheap goggles anymore, better to get your hands on one to try before you buy is the best way to be sure its the one for you.
You assume a lot. I do mostly indoor FPV at the moment. With a spotter, finding your drone without a DVR is not that difficult if you also have a pretty clear overview of the area where you are flying. I'd love a bigger picture, but the resolution, sharpness and colors are OK on my EV100s. With leds and buzzer on your drone, that DVR is not that big a deal (I spent a weekend with a couple of FPV racing drone pilots earlier this summer on a farm with a field with pretty tall grass, and we always found the drone, but some of us worked as spotters, which helped. They had Fatsharks, but none of them used the DVR feature).
SO in order to fly FPV you need to spend $350.00 on goggles. Geez thanks for your honest review. I liked the part where you spent over 800.00 on Fatsharks. Stew gave that review because he wanted those of us that dont have thousands of dollars to spend on goggles an option. Secondly, why dont you just come out and say you are jealous of not only Stews views but also his Patreon account. Lastly, this may come as a shock but not everyone flys a $1500.00 drone outside. Some of us dont have wide open fields around us to go flying in, so we fly mostly indoors. If you want more subs give me options, instead of just telling me these suck. SO what other 150.00 option would you propose? Oh the $350.00 Topsky? Thanks bro.
No, to fly FPV you can get away with as little as 40$ I guess (cheapest box goggles). I still dont understand why so many users dont like them...
Main difference between box and "normal" goggles: box makes you look to a very near object, almost crosseyed, normal goggles let you look "straight".
Box are much easier and can achieve large screen so easy,
normal goggles need complicated and high quality optics inside (that's the most expensive part at least in Fatsharks I read)
Where's the part where I spent 800$ for FS? Maybe combined... the domHDs are 400-500$ I guess (didnt research this)
I still believe that spending 100$ (or now rather 160+$) for the EV100 is throwing money out of the window.
If you're on a budget at least try the box goggles...
I think I somewhere already wrote as a joke "maybe I'm just jealous about him being the first to review and have so many views". sure true :)
It's always a race for the reviewers out there. Some (like Bruce in NZ) have a unfair disadvantage of very long delivery time :)
I'm a bit fed up with the fact tho that: if you put out a fast review you get many views, whereas if you take your time, test them extensivly... you have a lot of work but also low viewcount - since others were faster...
(compare my Mavic review with the first Mavic reviews for example).
Please check the videos linked at the end of this review - I already did some goggles comparisons, reviews.
ATM: quite some movement....
Options? Cyclops2 (still like em the most of the cheap ones), maybe the Fatshark Transformers (but I didnt try them), TopSky FX7 - can only say they look good, would love to test them, dont think I will get em :)
hope this justifies pressing that sub button now :) (and go ahead and also hit the bell :)
Thanks for the much more honest and accurate review!!!
you're welcome. it's a shame that the video where I gave the worst review til now get's the most views :)
Subscribed and thank you very much for the frank and honest review.
I love this guy. I love his honesty.
Happy subscriber.
thanks!
Thanks for confirming for me that I didn't want these goggles, I'm getting into fixed wing and want wide view. You brought up a lot of important points that beginners will appreciate (even if Banggood doesn't) like getting the right camera to match. All of my cameras are 2.1 - 2.8 which won't look good or be usable if it crops too much OSD on these. I'd rather spend the extra to get what I want rather than get another cheap set that I'm not happy with.
Can't wait to see your review on the FX7.
I bought the EV800 instead. Half the price and the filed of view is very nice and big. You also have the option of DVR on the EV800D which is just a bit more expensive but still cheaper than the EV100
I'm looking for a camera and goggles for my RC lawn mower. Can you recommend something of good quality that's reasonably priced? Thanks
thanks for saying the thruth about products on your reviews , it prevents us to spend tons of money on products and being disapointed at the end thanks
Thanks for your honesty Mario.
Good honesty. To me the most important aspect is what I can see. Thats why I went for the biggest FOV I could afford. All the bells and whistles dont mean nothing if what you see is crap.
like I said - it's the most important interface between you and your copter/plane...
I did the quick math:
measured the diagonal lenght of each of the goggles as I filmed them.
set them in relation to their claimed diagonal.
found out that while the other goggles gave reasonable relations the EV100 was way off!
If I correct their claimed 28° to 24° FOV - than my math is right again.
(hope this makes sense).
here's a pic and the xls if you wanna see what I did...: drive.google.com/open?id=0B4jolPxvBPhCRUlwMmQzNjNNUWc
nice and that is good that some one point out thous bad thins on product, because even good products has some weaknesses. AND it is important to review even bad products than just not publish them.
only that way product manufacture will fix thous issues or even make better product
thanks for this, am just getting into this hobby and was looking at those... not anymore !! great review imo.. subbed ;)
thanks, save some more money, wait until better goggles come at a nice price. if you need some in the meantime consider boxgoggles for 40-80$
Thank you for the truth!!! It is really refreshing to see someone tell it like it really is !!!! Keep up the good work !!!!
Thank you for such an honest review. I am subscribing to your channel
New subscriber here and also new to the FPV world. I bought a set of EV800 'goggles' and used them for a grand total of maybe 5 minutes before a motor on my craft bit the dust. For the time I used them though, they seemed pretty neat (mind you nothing to compare to). Anyway, all that said, it would be quite welcome if you could maybe do a video talking about lens size and field of vision and aspect ratios with goggles and all that stuff. I hear mentions of it on reviews, but so far I havent really found much information on it beyond the advice to "match" the camera with the goggles. That much, I think, is common sense, but how does lens size relate to a changing FOV? What about wide angle lenses? What about DVRs? Things like that. Either way, badass review, glad I saw it because until your review I didnt realize how narrow of view these goggles have. You saved me from a worthless purchase! And one more thing, I really hope BG doesnt put you on some blacklist or whatever. I would lose a lot of respect for them. Everyone has dud products and thats nothing I would hold against BG, but to shut down any critical reviews? Thats just a bad sign...
stu, bruce & andy rc are my go to's before I buy anything,, I take parts of all their reviews & make my own judgment based on what I think,,, I chose the skyzone 02 goggles,, & if theyre good for drew then I can live with that
Well, I got to say that I started with some box goggles with huge field of view. Then I bought my Fatshark HD3 with much smaller FOV. I instantly had a better experience with them. Then I tried the Predator V2 from a friend and liked the even smaller FOV compared to the HD3 even more. I think you have to find a balance between immersion and overview.
Liebe Grüße :-)
just out of curiuosity: what lens are you using? did you try different ones or by chance eversince use 2.8 or such?
I had a 2.8 on the XJaguar and it felt weird. only after swapping the lens I liked the experience...
Liebe Grüße zurück natürlich, soviel Zeit muß sein :)
Started with 1.8 (like Skitzo) on my box goggles. Now I'm only using GoPro lenses (which should be 2.5) with my HD3. When I tried my friends Predator 2 I also used a GoPro lens. The funniest thing is that I do need some diopters with the HD3 but didn't need any correction with the Predators.
1.8 sounds extreme but suit to the huge FOV in a box. 2.5 and the smaller HD3 is inline with my theory :)
Thanks for the video... Sadly too late, I already received them...
Yes they're crap, mine even had a wiggly display, it just slides around.
The fov is really tiny, too narrow lenses and it crushes my face
Danke für das ehrliche Review ;)
Hi, enjoying your videos very much. I bought some of the EV100 Goggles and can't connect with my Phantom 4 Pro at all. Is this because the antennas are reverse polarity do you think ? Thanks in advance 😀
Youre trying the impossible unfortunatley! Phantom4pro uses "Lightbridge" video transmission - most "normal" FPV goggles are NOT able to receive this direct. You need an HDMI cable from the back of your phantom transmitter (if there is non - you can get a 99$ "backpack adapter") this HDMI cable has to be connected to HDMI capeable goggles (EV100 are not...). For example some box goggles like the Eachine Goggles 2, Headplay HD,...
Or go with the superb DJI goggles - but even they rely on HDMI cable on Phantom - only with Mavic and Spark they can communicate wireless...
greets, Mario
RCSchim , thank you very much for your support, and super quick reply. I do have an HDMI module on my P4P remote, but unfortunately Eachine haven't released the HDMI to AV module yet. Do you think they would work well then ? Again thanks for your knowledge, you have saved me hours of frustration. Subbed already !
I dont think converting this wonderful lightbridge HD live-video to analogue and then displaying it the size of a post stamp would be a good idea. if you dont mind the looks of it, get a HDMI box goggle - and have great image there (like the eachine goggles two) or if you can spend the money, take the DJI goggles - they have the best picture I have seen yet. very large, good battery, great concept - but expensive. glad if I can help so easy :)
RCSchim thank you again, I think DJI goggles are the only way to go now, at least they are a matched product if very high quality. Great luck for your channel !
Hey Mario
Super Review und ich lobe deine Ehrlichkeit.👍
Was für osd würdest du mir für 5'' racer empfehlen.
Habe das micro minimosd ausprobiert aber da bekomme ich immer ein schwarzbild wenn ich vollgas gebe.
Wäre super wenn du mir da was empfehlen kannst.
Rssi displaying wäre auch gut wenn es das kann.
Schöne Grüße aus Tirol
Markus
sorry, hab schon länger keine OSDs mehr auf racern getestet. Hab auch ein MinimOSD daheim liegen aber noch nicht eingebaut. Mir fehlt da meist die Zeit bei den vielen Projekten...
Am Vortex lob ich mir das integrierte ezOSD. Am Flieger hat mir zuletzt das DalRC QOSD gefallen (50$, fertig, einfach zu bedienen, mit nur einem Knopf alles zu konfigurieren, kein PC).
Aber sollten moderne FC boards nicht schon selbst OSDs haben? Bzw. da gibts sicher FC+OSD combos um nicht allzu viel Geld...
An honest review! 2 thumbs up for that! I guess telling truth is rare these days :|
The false positivity is getting a bit much out here. Thanks for being honest.
I just subscribed. I have bought things in the past because I have seen good reviews of them, then they turned out to be crap, so I like it when people give honest reviews of things.
Thanks for the review, i am currently waiting for mine to arrive and I really hope I wont be too dissapointed with them. I think about maybe redesigning the case and 3d print it, so the screens get nearer to the eyes, (ofc i might need other lenses then) from what i have seen yet in reviews the displays are at least pretty sharp. With nearer screens and the mod to add a real diversity module to the goggles (thx drone mesh) those low end goggles could turn out decent. At least for the price paid i guess .. i even won something in this anniversary missions with my order :) So i´m not regreting anything yet, but lets see when they arrive xD
your plan sounds good. Kabab mentioned something similar. He gave away his and someone modifies them...
The screens are of decent resolution (I guess - couldnt really tell - as small as the picture was).
I'd wait and test the range of the standard VRX module. If you dont need ultra range - maybe they're fine.
I found that still with the better div module in my DomHDs now: if I need confident range I use the external FR632 on a tripod. most stable image there...
Nice refreshing review, good work Mario
Hey Shim! What would you recommend for beginner FPV goggles? I'm on a tight budget for my setup so looking for as cheap as possible?
Hi, I said this often: if you need to stay below 100$ for the goggles, chose from one of the many box goggles. I stopped reviewing Boxes since there are too many. Important features: DVR, diversity VRX (not only antenna diversity, real one with two RX modules).
From the few I have I like the Cyclops V2 the most (even if it has only one RX and no DVR).
Thankyou for your honest insight review to the goggles, very happy with your comments. Bruce from RCModelReviews sent me here. I have now subscribed too. :-)
Great video (Bruce) and I loved to get some nice words from him (everybody would)!
It's this kind of interaction that makes youtube so unique over TV.
Thank you for the education on the camera lenses
I came to the same conclusion although Iv done a lot of testing for my video.
AndyRC . OOOOOH I like Andy's channel
Good but honestly you could avoid yourself all these troubles, he's right in 2017 we should not have to buy such out-dated FPV goggles (no dvr, poor FOV, no diversity in 2017 really?) with the hypocrite argument of low price! Poor marketing in order to fool people and get their money! Shame on these people involved in this scam!
thanks for visiting here - just watched your lenghty (but very informative) review. Good job!
its great when you guys appear randomly on each others channels....
I love this guy :)
Whats about the new batch of the goggles people where talking about?
I don't have any of those goggles, but sincerely the field of view difference is minimal. look at 8:04, the box on the top of the furniture is slightly cut off on the EV100, the picture on the wall on the right side is also just a little bit cut off. No big difference in my opinion. Is the image size as small as displayed at 8:04? Thanks!
hi, the field of view - you got it wrong. on goggles you mean: how big is the impression of a screen that you see?
It's mostly explained as the equation: ...you sit 2m infront of a 60" TV - vs sitting 3m away from a 40" TV.
I dont know it exactly - but these goggles here are more like: you are sitting in the very last row of the cinema - and it's not the imax :)
My comparison shows the correct image size between the different goggles!
- Field of view - the angle, how much is visible to left-right or up-down (that is very similar on all goggles)
- "correct image size between the different goggles" - than it must mean that the EV100 has a small screen, almost 1/4 of the DOMHD.
Thank you Mario for your honesty!
I was pretty disappointed when i saw the review from Stu telling us it was a great FPV Goggles, even my first FPV goggles had indeed 35° FOV!
This is really a shamefull to sell these FPV goggles in 2017 and trap people with it!
Have a great week and keep on flying!
Madmacs above has a vaild point that I didnt think of yet: racers might be ok with smaller screens. easier to fly? maybe us scenery oriented FPVers who fly not so fast - are more interested in a good FPV experience. so it's again a matter of taste and application. I tried my attitude SDs (with 35°) after a long time now- and was kinda ok with the size of the image. But switching to the DomHD was awesome again. And as well the boxgoggles. such a nice, large sharp image! but ok, not many racers use boxgoggles I guess :)
he is a clueless shill. Infuriating thing is he's raking in over $2k a month from over 200 deluded patreons.
you think he was paid to lie?.. its only a few months since he trashed other goggles and rtf racers.
A lot of people are paid to lie in this world, grow up!
His reviews sometimes are bad and promote irrelevant informations!
I wouldnt assume this. It's just a general trend that a) reviews are flooding youtube (cause the shops and vendors found that this is they cheapest way of marketing).
and b) most of these reviewers either lack the knowledge to really test the stuff they're talking about, or they are influenced by capitalism (affilates, ad friendly,...).
So we ended up with too many influenced influencers (and now in winter influenza will join the party :)
Best review.... My eyes hurt from the tiny screens... Sold them after 1 day. Thanks 👌🏼
thanks for honest review - got to same conclusion it's way to narrow (sadly after reciving them) and now trying to replace/mod faceplate - to avoid keyhole effect and get a little closer to screens with my eyes to make FOV a little bigger. for 80$ a decent deal with a lot of moding possibility, but to be it as friendly as first reviews - have to agree - UAVfutures sold themselfs :/
Good luck on the modding at least. I found when removing the foam at all, eyes are a bit closer and image appears "a bit" larger. But the hard plasic cut the nose off your face then...
Thanks for an honest review!! I was going to buy them for 100 until I saw the fov was advertised in the 20s. I had great expectations that they would create a goggle that was as good as their vrd2 pro's. In that a goggle with a fov that would destroy the fatsharks.
Thanks for the review!
Top man!! Great video!! Honesty pays bro!!!
Awesome review man Keep it up
Thanks for your FOV picture comparison. Much appreciated ;-)
I think this was an important point - since many new FPVers dont know what the FOV means and how it compares. Numbers are not as good as direct picture comparison. and this comparison should express how SMALL the image on those goggles really is. tiny. nano!
In your opinion what is a good goggle at this price point? I'm new to the sport, looking to put a camera on my Traxxas aton. Any help with equipment suggestions would be appreciated.
at this pricepoint (around 100$) it's better to get decent box goggles. lately I didnt try a lot of box goggles, but the ev800d or so - there is a pro or version 2 of them - they seem quite good. or the quanum cyclops v2 - but they are fairly old.
thanks for the helpful review, i agree 28 degrees is just too small
Good review and get what your saying about them. But I need a budget pair of goggles but I just haven't got $400 or $500 Topsky or fatshark. What would be your recommendation for a sub $150 goggles. Thanks
Rich K in this case i would try box goggles. Without even trying them (yet) i would say cyclops diversity. They just came out and i should get a review sample soon....
RCSchim That's great. Thank you for replying.
Thank you for your honesty!
Loved you review, thanks a lot.I am new to this hobby. I saw vids of guys flying bwhoop b03 tiny drone indoor between furniture. Looks very precise and fun. Can you suggest transmitter and goggle(box goggle or ..) for me? I would only use them to fly this drone indoor with my families by the way.
Ykev2000 depends on budget. But for fun the box goggles are nice. Cheap but good cyclops v2. Or maybe eachine with diversity and dvr (ed800 v2?) If you invest in the future get something like a fatshark dom hd with module slot
Thanks a lot. I will check them out. How about transmitter? Do i need a nice one to fly precisely? I heard devo 10 and they flash the tiny drone with something calls silverware to use the acro mode. I am very new, just learned all the terms.
yes, definitley. I flew the first packs on a tiny drone with the cheap 10$ remote that came with it - and later had a module for my Taranis so I could use this instead. huge difference in precision. it's not always (but mostly) the pilots fault if the flight goes wrong... :)
My eperience (limited) with the tiny ones and indoor flying: I never used acro mode there. it's too fast and dangerous. stable mode is way better to explore or even race indoors I think. So dont mess around with firmwares in the beginning - rather enjoy it as it is.
for Remote as mentioned, I can suggest the Taranis. It's module bay is great to also use different radio systems (like TBS crossfire for speed and range on the larger quads).
good luck and enjoy!
Thanks a again. Will check that. Today i learned the Jumper T8SG 4 in 1 which claims can support almost all the protcol and have deviation preinstalled. i don't know which tx can fly my bwhoop b03 drone, so may be i should get this 4 on 1 tx that has better chance it supports my drone.
There's too many reviewers sing a company's praises because they send free stuff, Bruce Simpson got crossed off Walkera's Christmas card list some years ago for being too critical.
Talking about Walkera, has anyone heard any good stuff about the Vitus yet?
+Green Silver he said inn one off his vids that frsky also stopped supporting him after a bad review of the hours.