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Very nice!!! My PS5 ALWAYS shut down during Bahamut battle in FF XVI... Gathered some courage and opened my PS5 to expose the liquid metal! To my surprise it really had a dry spot about half the size on the video. I did not apply new liquid metal, just sucked some from the borders with a syringe and re-applied on top of SoC and heatsink. re assembled everything and start to play the entire Bahamut sequence, and to my surprise it did not shut down!!!!!!!!!
For me my problem with random shut downs was during the air buster fight in FFVII remake. I oddly enough don’t really have the shut off problem in some of the most graphically demanding games on ps5 (except Spiderman 2) like it happens in Dragon Ball Soarking Zero and Fortnite and literally five minutes ago for Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth
This totally solved our overheating issue. PS5 - 1215a was super clean on the inside but overheated with every use. We stand it vertically and the LM gradually moved down with heat and gravity. Lots of dark oxidation. we bought the kit recommended here and it worked perfectly. Thank you!!
Great video. Fixed my ps5 from turning off when playing games. Got to clean all heat sinks and re spread the liquid metal. Only thing is PLEASE don’t just cut the video and not tell us when you forgot to take out certain screws like at 3:28 I’m beginner asf at this. Besides that amazing video once i got past that. Thank you very much man!!
Thanks for sharing this. I’ve opened consoles in the past and replaced thermal paste. Thanks to you I’m only slightly less scared to open my PS5. I try to give it a monthly dust off so I don’t have to open it that much to clean it.
You don't need to do a Monthly Dust off if you run an Air Purifier. Makes a world of difference and keeps your consoles nice and clean on the inside. I haven't had to dust out my consoles for years and even when I do, there is barely anything inside them.
Thank you for the great video. I was able to fix my friends ps5 with it. His had a massive dry spot on the APU when we got it apart, looked much worse than the video, lol. Cleaning it and adding fresh LM and spreading it like how you demonstate has made a world of difference. For those scared of doing this, it was pretty easy to clean and apply new LM. It doesnt run freely like water, it behaves pretty similarly to thermal paste. Its not as tempermental as solder either, it behaves pretty well. Just do it like the video. And you dont really have to worry about putting too much, the sponge will absorb excess LM when you press it back together, its really well designed. Just get a nice even layer on there. The most challenging part is keeping tracks of all the screws for the backplate honestly. Recommend the ifixit kit. Picked one up at best buy. And used the LM linked in the description.
It's genuinely interesting to see the various challenges, solutions and problems that arise with different hardware and, by extension, the maintenance practices that arise from them. Your comment about the difference between PS4 and PS5 responding to clogged vents is a great example. I'm guessing some of that is because the PS5 runs hotter overall which was the driving force to use liquid metal to begin with. It *does* seem like a less-than-ideal solution though because it brings other hardware challenges. It'll be interesting to see if future revisions move away from liquid metal even if just as a cost cutting measure.
If there's ever a PS5 Slim or Pro (or both), I hope Sony designs the cooling properly so that liquid metal is no longer needed. Give me a proper heatsink, a proper fan, and a proper airflow path. Xbox Series X may be a "boring black box" according to some, but it's a boring black box that doesn't need to rely on liquid metal to make up for the shortcomings of its cooling solution. It's just fine with thermal paste. And personally I'd much rather have a "boring black box" than whatever uglier than sin design Sony came up with for PS5 that looks terrible and functions terribly too.
I usually agree with you, BUT the reason the liquid metal is pooling is because it's not under pressure. The gap between the APU and the heatsink should be microscopic, the lm shouldn't be pooling. I think it's overheating and just making the liquid metal run, doesn't help that it's vertical but I've run bare die CPUs before on liquid metal vertically and have had zero issues. Then again it was watercooled so it didn't run crazy hot.
This is my issue. What is the Xclamp, and thirty screws for if the mounting pressure isn’t there out of factory. This metal should last years and definitely shouldn’t run down and pool. Design flaw.
@@syn80congrats but when there are thirty million units in the wild just because your one doesn't have a problem does not mean that all don't. I hate these stupid redundant type of comments and responses!
In many devices like laptops even using thermal paste is no-no. The uneven meeting surface require material that could fill the gap and prevent any air to be trapped in between. Pressure is important. The liquid metal is heavy, the gravity would pull it down regardless. Maybe it there was some kind of metal rim that interlock with the motherboard so the metal can't escape and keep pressure.That would have being future proof solution. Hope and prayers that some foam can do this job.
This is a really big flaw in the design. There's no way that consumer electronics should be designed in such a way that it requires the end user to periodically open them up to clean out dust and re-spread liquid metal. You wouldn't expect to have to disassemble your TV or microwave every few months for it to keep working properly and nor should you have to do so with your games console.
Why shouldn’t I have to? Who said that I should have to remain ignorant of the technology my life depends on? Who said I shouldn’t be required to learn anything about it to use it? Cause that person was an idiot.
Consoles are just computers, any person that takes care of their computers know they have to take care of em. It has moving parts and it isn't built to last forever, no electric does, same with cars. You need to take care of your belongings. Your analogy of TV's and Microwaves is also flawed because they also do require maintenance overtime and they always eventually break down, TV's pixels burn out, Microwaves lose power and won't be able to heat food. A car that isn't well taken care of will break apart.
I've been using BW-100 since your first video on cleaning Joy-Cons! I love the product, and I don't have problems with stick drift anymore. Thanks for telling us about it.
Thank you so much for this detailed and helpful video Steve! After finding your videos on Facebook reels and watching you repair many consoles I bought an overheating PS5 and managed to fix it! Currently working my way through your soldering classes as well! Thanks again! 🙌🏻
@Tronicsfix haha more started to shine than just the liquid at 08:08 saliva, I was a bit silly today hence. thanks for your videos and especially the extra low-threshold explanations and tutorials
I was lucky enough to get a ps5 on release date, I am not sure if the amount you play it matters or not, but I play mine around 8-10 hours a week, might have the odd day where I play all day. It is used regularly to watch Netflix. I have had mine standing up right since the day I got it and I’ve never had a problem with it. I do take the sides off every 6 months or so and blow some compressed air through it, but that’s it. I’ve never taken the fan out or anything and it’s always been fine for me.
I just followed this guide on my PS5 and found a massive dry spot on the APU. Spread around the liquid metal a bit and put it back together and now it's back as good as new
I ordered the i fixit pro tech tool kit just came in today. I could only wish to be as successful as your repairs but gotta start somewhere. Going to try to fix stick drift on ps5 controller. Thanks Steven
Hey Steve, is this oxidation issue not considered a factory defect? Not that you could really prove it to Sony unless you opened it yourself and documented it, but at that point, it would be easier to just follow this guide and fix it yourself. Or is this just a common issue with liquid metal use that is less common until this generation, since Sony opted/engineered the PS5 for liquid metal use rather than thermal paste?
Nice video as always! I'd like you to address this one day in your videos: how effective is using the vacuum points Sony provided to keep the heatsinks/power supply clean and unclogged? Is opening the PS5 necessary?
I think most of the problems with these ps5s having dry spots are people that use them heavily at a friend's house,turn it off and move it while it's hot.
Recently popped open my ps5 and i was surprised to see that it wasnt very dusty at all. Even after 2 years or so of use. Course I always have my gaming area clean and dusted which helps im sure. I was going to take a look at the liquid metal but i have no experience with that stuff unlike thermal paste. But maybe now i can have a look
Been watching your channel for a while and learning a lot on electronic repairs. Couple questions about cleaning the PS5. 1. Does cleaning/maintaining your PS5 void any warranties? 2. On the subject of warranty, should the owner clean their PS5 or are there "trained professionals/businesses " that provide a cleaning service?
Cleaning your PS5 does not void your warrant. Sony cannot VOID your warranty for your opening your PS5. However, if you damage anything or they believe you've damaged anything they will refuse to fix it. The warranty stickers only value is the "couldn't have been me, I wasn't inside it" factor. Disassembly of the PS5 isn't particularly tricky, but you must be very careful with those flex cables / flex cable adaptors. They are fragile. Watch a few videos first showing you how to properly remove and insert those cables. Other than that, it's quite easy to disassemble and clean. Slightly annoying, since Sony used 43 screws to secure the top metal plate to the PS5 for some ungodly reason. But not bad. Just be careful with the flex cables and flat flex cable sockets and be sure to properly re route all the cabling, putting the screws back in the proper places, during reassembly. I just bought a PS5 off ebay that was shutting down when playing PS5 games. The system was gunked with debris, heatsinks and fan pretty clogged up. And the APU has a huge dry spot on it. The liquid metal needs reapplied / cleaned up some. But since disassembling and cleaning, it works like a treat.
I don't think this is to do with oxidation. I think it's an issue called "pump-out". Thermal expansion means the processor and heatsink expand when they get hot, constricting the space and squeezing out the liquid metal TIM. I heard that Sony used a silver-plated heatsink to try to counter this (supposedly silver having higher wettability but I'm not sure) but it obviously isn't foolproof. Pump-out is an issue faced by PC gaming enthusiasts who use this liquid metal TIM.
Amazing that you go into such detail about the ribbon cable connectors! Still, I wish you’d make a video on some mod hack improvements. Like on my SX and SteamDeck I’d like to install that ptm7950 hybrid TIM. Or add better thermal pads to any of these toys. Or drill more vent holes in that ps5 psu.
There was I believe a Czech guy who did a stream where he put ptm7950 in the PS5 and it worked just fine with near identical performance, when it comes to Steamdeck I saw many who basically had the fan rpm decrease by 1000-2000.
Got my PS5 all apart and about to put it all back together. Hope I put enough liquid metal. This system was given to me with overheating issues. It was sooooo dirty!
My PS5 kept shutting off on me. I tried all the tricks of rebuilding the database. Checking the power supply, the coin cell battery. The fan, the Liquid Metal, internal SSD drive, but in the end the culprit was that my power supply vents and heat sinks were clogged up with dust
Ive taken apart my ps5 to check the LM for the first time. I was surprised to find that the LM was pooled to one side even with the console lying down since I got it. And i still had a dry oxidized spot one the apu. Consoles been clean and dust free for most of its life so i feel its the inevitable
@TronicsFix I have my PlayStation 5 currently sitting vertically, and have on-and off been in vertical and horizontal for the past year and a half with no issues with the PS5s performance or thermals.
I don't really understand why they keep using liquid metal, if you use the thermal grizzly kryonaut you have roughly 2-3°C more but you don't have the spilling problem. Even the xbox series x use the thermal paste and it's even more powerfull.
I got my ps5 since April 2020, and I had it vertically standing since then. I do not have any issues with it, but I am considering having it on a horizontal stand now.
Wondering if you can make a photo frame shape thermal pad and fill it with liquid metal to contain it. Stop it from spilling out and oxidizing. Just a thought. Great video btw 👍😎🇬🇧
it probly wont die cause it shut off fromt he heat to protect it self . they used liquid metal cause they had 2 if you dont stand up the ps5 you wont have this issue anyways
I'm somewhat confident that Sony isn't willing to risk recalls on their own design here. These liquid metal issues may not be as prevalent, and seeing a couple hundred or even thousands of consoles with issues is normal, within defect tolerances for a new product. If you are paranoid, don't buy a phat PS3 and cut holes in the bottom, don't open up your warrantied console. Sony technically can't take away your warranty.. unless you broke something...but have fun with customer support if they deny you potential warranty work. And if you do take it apart, do a good job, getting tired of seeing dead consoles because somebody used their dad's 55 year old Phillips head and lost screws on used pickups...sloppy work ruins good things. Or somebody stripped a hex screw because they tried to get a flat head in it and prayed it would unscrew.
1:55 hate the ears on the connector so much! Tore it off on my ps4 removing it very gently. Those things are so ridiculously fragile, and you better believe it wont go in easy once they've ripped!
Mine was not dirty at all so I knew it was the liquid metal. It does not re-spread easily or evenly at all. So could always be more potential problems down the road.
I have been using MX-6 on all of my recent repaistings. Compared to other pastes like Kryonaut, it has been the best stuff so far. They claim a service life of 8 years, we shall see. I still have reservations of using Liquid Metal due to it's longevity, it seems to oxidize no matter what prepwork you do. Some have tried Nickel Plating their heatsinks to starve off the effect, but it still occurs. We don't need the absolute best thermal transfers in consumer products, we need longevity and maintenance free design. I wonder if Sony will consider soldering the heatsink to the APU in the future, in theory it would make it maintenance free.
It's so bizarre. Like the response to "Right To Repair" has been "Required To Maintain, So We Threw 50 Screws And Fragile Connectors In The Way". I don't understand how companies can continue to make worse and worse designs, and why people are still giving them their money no matter what they do.
I would hope Sony doesn't solder the heatsink to the APU! Thankfully I don't even think that such a thing is possible. But if it was and they did, it would be a nightmare for repair. They simply need to better design their consoles with proper airflow, appropriately sized heatsinks, and proper fans. You know, everything Microsoft did for the Xbox Series X.
I had APU issues with my launch PS5 and ended up returning it. Wonder if it was poor liquid metal application at the factory. Either way, I am holding off on getting a PS5 until it stops using liquid metal. Hopefully an updated version of the chip will run cooler and be fine with regular thermal paste.
@@avi-jk7wv I don't doubt that...but they didn't put liquid metal in there to look cool against the competition. The liquid metal risk is not worth it if you don't absolutely need it, on a scale that could exceed 100 million units. So with that in mind, you're experimenting with a worse compound with no active data on a system that was designed to remove x amount of heat with liquid metal. You have no idea if it's working perfectly, it's just "working" right now. You could be accelerating its decay significantly, from the apu, letting more heat soak around the vrms and ram chips increasing their heat. And this issue with liquid metal could affect thousands of consoles, which is low and probably within spec for a brand new product. Unless it's in the tens of thousands, I'm not worried.
I'm personally a little confused when it comes to placing the ps5 vertical. I've had mine for about 2 weeks and I placed it vertical since I don't really have to room to place it horizontal. In this video you show the the metal slides down but this is without the clamp on. Wouldn't the clamp and the pressure provided but that mitigate this problem? So yeah my main question is should I make room to place my ps5 horizontal or can I just leave it vertical? (Note I do have the newest version of the ps5 and I don't use it as my main "gaming device". So it might not get as much usage as someone that has a ps5 as their only console. Also there are periods that it's turned off for multiple days.)
@@noob4head It being vertically wouldn’t cost issues, the problem itself is the vents being clogged by dust and debris. I’ve had mine vertically since 2021 and haven’t had overheating problems until today. I’ve never cleaned the inside of the console, only the outer layer and the outside of the fan. So in my case, it was bound to overheat sooner or later. I suggest cleaning the entire console every 4 to 6 months a year if you want to take good care of it.
great video. its good to have a well precured videos like this for people to service their consoles. I do think that's a lot of liquid metal though lol.
The vertical issues don't make any sense. It won't move because it is a tight seal with the heatsink, just tipping it upright without the seal makes no sense, of course it is going to slide.
Look up pump out for thermal paste, if it can happen to thermal paste which is thicker and less viscous it will absolutely happen to liquid metal especially when the console is vertical and gravity is helping.
This is 100% what’s making my PS5 overheat as it’s not dusty at all. My cousin has experienced the exact same issue with his PS5 too. It’s a pain in the arse. The PS5 is the most frustrating console that I’ve ever owned.
@@JimiJamma thanks for the offer. Still looking to learn about the issue. Heard about the cap replacements, it sounds like the APU and GPU are inherently faulty due the solder balls used inside the ICs.
The HDMI port stopped working after using a HDMI extender over dual Ethernet cables with power injection. Injected power, then HDMI pigtail, Apple TV 3 and PS3’s HDMI ports all no longer worked. The Multi Out A/V on the PS3 works still, but my new TV only has HDMI inputs. I have a donor board that doesn’t power up that could be used to possibly fix the the HDMI problem.
Just what I needed. If I could only get rid of annoying start up beep. Is it possible to desolder it or something. Would be good to knock that out while I'm in there.
These dry spots aren't only an issue on Playstation 5 btw, the Zeyphrus Laptops with LM also develop dry spots on their chips. Going to be interesting to see when more and more people start complaining about overheating consoles in 2-3 years.
My ps5 has always been kept vertical, however, it stays where it is next to the tv, i think the bulk of the problems with ps5's are people who keep moving it around (Perhaps kids moving it to the big tv) hence they aint for travellers lol
Here's the link for the liquid metal I use (paid Amazon affiliate link): geni.us/NFVlyM
I don't see the black Q-Tip thing that you used. Do you have a link to those as well?
I see spanish tech installing Thermal CARBONAUTS carbon pad instead of Metal Liquid and ...it seem to work flawlessly....
I think it's stupid that you have to claim affiliate link because the Enterprise for the consumers the same it's not like you're making them pay more and it only really matters if you're trying to boycott someone at which point you just wouldn't be using the link they provided anyways sorry just some board rambling
You should order from dkoldies and see if there "refurbished" are up to par. Love your channel by the way
Your tools link doesn't include that little heatsink brush, where did you get that?
Very nice!!! My PS5 ALWAYS shut down during Bahamut battle in FF XVI... Gathered some courage and opened my PS5 to expose the liquid metal! To my surprise it really had a dry spot about half the size on the video. I did not apply new liquid metal, just sucked some from the borders with a syringe and re-applied on top of SoC and heatsink. re assembled everything and start to play the entire Bahamut sequence, and to my surprise it did not shut down!!!!!!!!!
Damn man that fight is like an hour and a half long, sorry that you lost that much progress many times
love that game
For me my problem with random shut downs was during the air buster fight in FFVII remake. I oddly enough don’t really have the shut off problem in some of the most graphically demanding games on ps5 (except Spiderman 2) like it happens in Dragon Ball Soarking Zero and Fortnite and literally five minutes ago for Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth
Glad you addressed the vertical placement rumor...
This totally solved our overheating issue. PS5 - 1215a was super clean on the inside but overheated with every use. We stand it vertically and the LM gradually moved down with heat and gravity. Lots of dark oxidation. we bought the kit recommended here and it worked perfectly. Thank you!!
Great video. Fixed my ps5 from turning off when playing games. Got to clean all heat sinks and re spread the liquid metal. Only thing is PLEASE don’t just cut the video and not tell us when you forgot to take out certain screws like at 3:28 I’m beginner asf at this. Besides that amazing video once i got past that. Thank you very much man!!
That Air Supply bit killed me 😂 I don’t even own a PS5 but I enjoy learning and watching you fix things. Great video!
Lol
I love as how you made this a guide you went into explicit detail on where to be careful
Thanks for sharing this. I’ve opened consoles in the past and replaced thermal paste. Thanks to you I’m only slightly less scared to open my PS5. I try to give it a monthly dust off so I don’t have to open it that much to clean it.
Cleaning it monthly will definitely help!
You don't need to do a Monthly Dust off if you run an Air Purifier. Makes a world of difference and keeps your consoles nice and clean on the inside. I haven't had to dust out my consoles for years and even when I do, there is barely anything inside them.
Just replace it with mx4 or any good thermal paste it will work just fine
@@avi-jk7wv I agree, paste pump out (google it) is worst on LM than the newer pastes.
@@S.Madman just replace thermal paste every year and u will be fine
Thank you for the great video. I was able to fix my friends ps5 with it. His had a massive dry spot on the APU when we got it apart, looked much worse than the video, lol. Cleaning it and adding fresh LM and spreading it like how you demonstate has made a world of difference.
For those scared of doing this, it was pretty easy to clean and apply new LM. It doesnt run freely like water, it behaves pretty similarly to thermal paste. Its not as tempermental as solder either, it behaves pretty well. Just do it like the video.
And you dont really have to worry about putting too much, the sponge will absorb excess LM when you press it back together, its really well designed. Just get a nice even layer on there. The most challenging part is keeping tracks of all the screws for the backplate honestly.
Recommend the ifixit kit. Picked one up at best buy. And used the LM linked in the description.
Any links to how I reassemble the ps5 after applying the liquid metal? Where do the screws go?
How long did it fix this issue?
It's genuinely interesting to see the various challenges, solutions and problems that arise with different hardware and, by extension, the maintenance practices that arise from them. Your comment about the difference between PS4 and PS5 responding to clogged vents is a great example. I'm guessing some of that is because the PS5 runs hotter overall which was the driving force to use liquid metal to begin with. It *does* seem like a less-than-ideal solution though because it brings other hardware challenges. It'll be interesting to see if future revisions move away from liquid metal even if just as a cost cutting measure.
If there's ever a PS5 Slim or Pro (or both), I hope Sony designs the cooling properly so that liquid metal is no longer needed. Give me a proper heatsink, a proper fan, and a proper airflow path. Xbox Series X may be a "boring black box" according to some, but it's a boring black box that doesn't need to rely on liquid metal to make up for the shortcomings of its cooling solution. It's just fine with thermal paste. And personally I'd much rather have a "boring black box" than whatever uglier than sin design Sony came up with for PS5 that looks terrible and functions terribly too.
Your correct the ps5 runs insanely hot which is why don’t used the better heat conductor which is Liquid Metal
Love seeing this problem addressed! Getting that oxidation off looked tricky
It can be. I probably should have removed the liquid metal and cleaned it with IPA but I did get it respread eventually
@@Tronicsfix please could you tell me the size of the PS5 cpu in mm x mm ?
I usually agree with you, BUT the reason the liquid metal is pooling is because it's not under pressure. The gap between the APU and the heatsink should be microscopic, the lm shouldn't be pooling. I think it's overheating and just making the liquid metal run, doesn't help that it's vertical but I've run bare die CPUs before on liquid metal vertically and have had zero issues. Then again it was watercooled so it didn't run crazy hot.
This is my issue. What is the Xclamp, and thirty screws for if the mounting pressure isn’t there out of factory. This metal should last years and definitely shouldn’t run down and pool. Design flaw.
My PS5 has been vertical since December 24th 2020 without any issues due to liquid metal pooling.
If only Sony didn't apply 3 liters of it when you only need a milligram....
@@syn80congrats but when there are thirty million units in the wild just because your one doesn't have a problem does not mean that all don't. I hate these stupid redundant type of comments and responses!
In many devices like laptops even using thermal paste is no-no. The uneven meeting surface require material that could fill the gap and prevent any air to be trapped in between. Pressure is important. The liquid metal is heavy, the gravity would pull it down regardless. Maybe it there was some kind of metal rim that interlock with the motherboard so the metal can't escape and keep pressure.That would have being future proof solution. Hope and prayers that some foam can do this job.
I feel like this video is going to be important for restoration dudes 10 years from now.
It's important for schmucks like me now who got a Lauch day ps5 and am now paying the price for my impatience 😭
@@BigBadMunky96
Is this problem only for day 1 launched ps5 or even the latest release??
@@BigBadMunky96 bought mine in march of 21, same exact issue...kinda nervous but has to be done...
What?
@@juhan2816 I got mine day one and I’m having this problem
literally was just thinking if you were going to upload. thanks.
This is a really big flaw in the design. There's no way that consumer electronics should be designed in such a way that it requires the end user to periodically open them up to clean out dust and re-spread liquid metal. You wouldn't expect to have to disassemble your TV or microwave every few months for it to keep working properly and nor should you have to do so with your games console.
no u could buy dust covers if u dont want to do that
Why shouldn’t I have to? Who said that I should have to remain ignorant of the technology my life depends on? Who said I shouldn’t be required to learn anything about it to use it? Cause that person was an idiot.
Have you ever had a PC before? You have to regularly re-apply the thermal paste along with cleaning out all of the dust.
So you wouldn't even dust the thing out?
Consoles are just computers, any person that takes care of their computers know they have to take care of em. It has moving parts and it isn't built to last forever, no electric does, same with cars. You need to take care of your belongings.
Your analogy of TV's and Microwaves is also flawed because they also do require maintenance overtime and they always eventually break down, TV's pixels burn out, Microwaves lose power and won't be able to heat food.
A car that isn't well taken care of will break apart.
Fixed my overheating issue, thank you.
I've been using BW-100 since your first video on cleaning Joy-Cons! I love the product, and I don't have problems with stick drift anymore. Thanks for telling us about it.
Thank you so much for this detailed and helpful video Steve! After finding your videos on Facebook reels and watching you repair many consoles I bought an overheating PS5 and managed to fix it! Currently working my way through your soldering classes as well! Thanks again! 🙌🏻
Shoutouts to the air supply being featured in this video haha. Great video Steve!
@Tronicsfix haha more started to shine than just the liquid at 08:08 saliva, I was a bit silly today hence. thanks for your videos and especially the extra low-threshold explanations and tutorials
I was lucky enough to get a ps5 on release date, I am not sure if the amount you play it matters or not, but I play mine around 8-10 hours a week, might have the odd day where I play all day. It is used regularly to watch Netflix. I have had mine standing up right since the day I got it and I’ve never had a problem with it. I do take the sides off every 6 months or so and blow some compressed air through it, but that’s it. I’ve never taken the fan out or anything and it’s always been fine for me.
Nice tutorial Steve now I learned something different!
Glad to hear it!
I just followed this guide on my PS5 and found a massive dry spot on the APU. Spread around the liquid metal a bit and put it back together and now it's back as good as new
You just saved me so much money on a repair bill thank you so much
Very helpful and full of wonderful teaching points I appreciate the in depth lesson
I ordered the i fixit pro tech tool kit just came in today. I could only wish to be as successful as your repairs but gotta start somewhere. Going to try to fix stick drift on ps5 controller. Thanks Steven
1:48 Steve good thing you clarified, because I was gonna rock my whole body back and forth. 😂 Nice video man.
Hey Steve, is this oxidation issue not considered a factory defect? Not that you could really prove it to Sony unless you opened it yourself and documented it, but at that point, it would be easier to just follow this guide and fix it yourself. Or is this just a common issue with liquid metal use that is less common until this generation, since Sony opted/engineered the PS5 for liquid metal use rather than thermal paste?
Nice video as always! I'd like you to address this one day in your videos: how effective is using the vacuum points Sony provided to keep the heatsinks/power supply clean and unclogged?
Is opening the PS5 necessary?
Curious about it too !
Great tutorial, thanks! I loved the Air Supply mistake 🙂
I think most of the problems with these ps5s having dry spots are people that use them heavily at a friend's house,turn it off and move it while it's hot.
I run my consoles and PC in an enclosure with aircon injection and P3 dust filtration. Surprisingly cheap to setup and maintain.
Recently popped open my ps5 and i was surprised to see that it wasnt very dusty at all. Even after 2 years or so of use. Course I always have my gaming area clean and dusted which helps im sure. I was going to take a look at the liquid metal but i have no experience with that stuff unlike thermal paste. But maybe now i can have a look
Been watching your channel for a while and learning a lot on electronic repairs.
Couple questions about cleaning the PS5.
1. Does cleaning/maintaining your PS5 void any warranties?
2. On the subject of warranty, should the owner clean their PS5 or are there "trained professionals/businesses " that provide a cleaning service?
Cleaning your PS5 does not void your warrant. Sony cannot VOID your warranty for your opening your PS5.
However, if you damage anything or they believe you've damaged anything they will refuse to fix it. The warranty stickers only value is the "couldn't have been me, I wasn't inside it" factor.
Disassembly of the PS5 isn't particularly tricky, but you must be very careful with those flex cables / flex cable adaptors. They are fragile. Watch a few videos first showing you how to properly remove and insert those cables.
Other than that, it's quite easy to disassemble and clean. Slightly annoying, since Sony used 43 screws to secure the top metal plate to the PS5 for some ungodly reason. But not bad. Just be careful with the flex cables and flat flex cable sockets and be sure to properly re route all the cabling, putting the screws back in the proper places, during reassembly.
I just bought a PS5 off ebay that was shutting down when playing PS5 games. The system was gunked with debris, heatsinks and fan pretty clogged up. And the APU has a huge dry spot on it. The liquid metal needs reapplied / cleaned up some. But since disassembling and cleaning, it works like a treat.
Got a randomly shutting off PS5 here, thanks for the vid
Hopefully this helps!
I don't think this is to do with oxidation. I think it's an issue called "pump-out". Thermal expansion means the processor and heatsink expand when they get hot, constricting the space and squeezing out the liquid metal TIM. I heard that Sony used a silver-plated heatsink to try to counter this (supposedly silver having higher wettability but I'm not sure) but it obviously isn't foolproof. Pump-out is an issue faced by PC gaming enthusiasts who use this liquid metal TIM.
Never thought i would be so entertained by a computer repairman
We offer this service to our customers because we were seeing consoles coming in like this with their broken HDMI ports. Awesome job Steve!
same here - doing it for "free" with hdmi.
Why are they breaking them? Makes no sense. Has to be user fault at some point
@@Jordanfiend361 some people are careless when plugging the cable into the port, and do it without looking. It takes some serious negligence though.
@@Jordanfiend361 Some people just have the finesse of a monkey...
@@Jordanfiend361 The port isn't very strong in general and the console does flip over relatively easy... most common reasons.
Amazing that you go into such detail about the ribbon cable connectors! Still, I wish you’d make a video on some mod hack improvements. Like on my SX and SteamDeck I’d like to install that ptm7950 hybrid TIM. Or add better thermal pads to any of these toys. Or drill more vent holes in that ps5 psu.
There was I believe a Czech guy who did a stream where he put ptm7950 in the PS5 and it worked just fine with near identical performance, when it comes to Steamdeck I saw many who basically had the fan rpm decrease by 1000-2000.
I’m new to the channel ❤ I love it & learn a lot
This is a great, straight to the point video that I'm sure loads of people will come back to.
Great Video! Thanks for your amazing tips!
Thanks for watching!
i love your videos❤ don’t ever stop making them please 🙏
I just bought a ps5 for MSRP. Great timing!
They're getting easier to find finally
@@Tronicsfix they were so rare in Greece...
You know what I would love to see and I dunno if others want to see that too… but would Love to see You repairing DRONES!!
Great video, I trust your advice.
Please show any video on xbox teardown like fixing or cleaning such as xbox series S or xbox series X
Got my PS5 all apart and about to put it all back together. Hope I put enough liquid metal. This system was given to me with overheating issues. It was sooooo dirty!
My PS5 kept shutting off on me. I tried all the tricks of rebuilding the database. Checking the power supply, the coin cell battery. The fan, the Liquid Metal, internal SSD drive, but in the end the culprit was that my power supply vents and heat sinks were clogged up with dust
thanks for the tip !!!
No problem!
Not gonna lie. I turned my head away at 9:37 and thought he started scratching on some dj turntables 🤣
Amazing vid nice work‼️🤜🏾👍🏾
Thanks for the quick teardown of the controller. Just fixed my stick drift. You're the best
Ive taken apart my ps5 to check the LM for the first time. I was surprised to find that the LM was pooled to one side even with the console lying down since I got it. And i still had a dry oxidized spot one the apu. Consoles been clean and dust free for most of its life so i feel its the inevitable
@TronicsFix I have my PlayStation 5 currently sitting vertically, and have on-and off been in vertical and horizontal for the past year and a half with no issues with the PS5s performance or thermals.
3:17 man, that sponge thing broke and now I’m unable to get it out. Literally at the last step :(
thank you 4 amazing explanation
My PS5 has always been horizontal. I check the air coming out the back and it's barely warm. Had mine for a little over a year
I don't really understand why they keep using liquid metal, if you use the thermal grizzly kryonaut you have roughly 2-3°C more but you don't have the spilling problem. Even the xbox series x use the thermal paste and it's even more powerfull.
Clock speeds are different.
I got my ps5 since April 2020, and I had it vertically standing since then. I do not have any issues with it, but I am considering having it on a horizontal stand now.
@Conqueror Ryu lol 😅🤣, i put the wrong date ,April 2021.
Wondering if you can make a photo frame shape thermal pad and fill it with liquid metal to contain it. Stop it from spilling out and oxidizing.
Just a thought.
Great video btw 👍😎🇬🇧
Great video. It's good to know, incase I ever get a PS5.
Good luck with that! They do seem to be getting more available now.
Its not that hard 😭
Nice of Sony to design the internals this way. Will get a few more repeat sales after initial units die from overheating. +5 business
it probly wont die cause it shut off fromt he heat to protect it self . they used liquid metal cause they had 2 if you dont stand up the ps5 you wont have this issue anyways
@@yamisniper I’m talking about all the internal dust choke points. I’m pretty sure a significant number of PS5 users will have it vertical also.
Mine is still under warranty. Will definitely come back to this video once i need a deep cleaning.
That spit drop at 8:10 was like "wassup youtube" :D
I'm somewhat confident that Sony isn't willing to risk recalls on their own design here. These liquid metal issues may not be as prevalent, and seeing a couple hundred or even thousands of consoles with issues is normal, within defect tolerances for a new product.
If you are paranoid, don't buy a phat PS3 and cut holes in the bottom, don't open up your warrantied console. Sony technically can't take away your warranty.. unless you broke something...but have fun with customer support if they deny you potential warranty work.
And if you do take it apart, do a good job, getting tired of seeing dead consoles because somebody used their dad's 55 year old Phillips head and lost screws on used pickups...sloppy work ruins good things. Or somebody stripped a hex screw because they tried to get a flat head in it and prayed it would unscrew.
1:55 hate the ears on the connector so much! Tore it off on my ps4 removing it very gently. Those things are so ridiculously fragile, and you better believe it wont go in easy once they've ripped!
Mine was not dirty at all so I knew it was the liquid metal. It does not re-spread easily or evenly at all. So could always be more potential problems down the road.
12:42 wtf lol😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t see the Liquid Metal in the parts used section. Unless I overlooked it.
I have been using MX-6 on all of my recent repaistings. Compared to other pastes like Kryonaut, it has been the best stuff so far. They claim a service life of 8 years, we shall see.
I still have reservations of using Liquid Metal due to it's longevity, it seems to oxidize no matter what prepwork you do. Some have tried Nickel Plating their heatsinks to starve off the effect, but it still occurs. We don't need the absolute best thermal transfers in consumer products, we need longevity and maintenance free design. I wonder if Sony will consider soldering the heatsink to the APU in the future, in theory it would make it maintenance free.
It's so bizarre. Like the response to "Right To Repair" has been "Required To Maintain, So We Threw 50 Screws And Fragile Connectors In The Way". I don't understand how companies can continue to make worse and worse designs, and why people are still giving them their money no matter what they do.
Don’t use anything but Liquid Metal on the ps5 it won’t work. He’s made a video putting MX-6 on the ps5 and it overheats very quickly.
I would hope Sony doesn't solder the heatsink to the APU! Thankfully I don't even think that such a thing is possible. But if it was and they did, it would be a nightmare for repair. They simply need to better design their consoles with proper airflow, appropriately sized heatsinks, and proper fans. You know, everything Microsoft did for the Xbox Series X.
8:09 lol at the spit
Great informational/instructive video! Keep fighting the good fight for right to repair 🙂
How to prevent the oxidation of the liquid metal and what caused it? 🤔
I had APU issues with my launch PS5 and ended up returning it. Wonder if it was poor liquid metal application at the factory. Either way, I am holding off on getting a PS5 until it stops using liquid metal. Hopefully an updated version of the chip will run cooler and be fine with regular thermal paste.
Is there a reason you did not suck up the free liquid metal on the bottom of the heat sink before cleaning?
I completely removed all liquid metal and replace it with mx4 works perfectly fine .
For now...
@@PetrolHead6901 it's been actually more then 3 months
@@avi-jk7wv I don't doubt that...but they didn't put liquid metal in there to look cool against the competition. The liquid metal risk is not worth it if you don't absolutely need it, on a scale that could exceed 100 million units. So with that in mind, you're experimenting with a worse compound with no active data on a system that was designed to remove x amount of heat with liquid metal. You have no idea if it's working perfectly, it's just "working" right now.
You could be accelerating its decay significantly, from the apu, letting more heat soak around the vrms and ram chips increasing their heat.
And this issue with liquid metal could affect thousands of consoles, which is low and probably within spec for a brand new product. Unless it's in the tens of thousands, I'm not worried.
That AIr supply joke was top notch
I have a launch PS5. I think I've cleaned it once since and haven't had any issues. Maybe I'm just lucky, lol.
So we’re just gonna ignore that spit that flew out of his mouth and landed on the board 🤣🤣🤣 I saw that 😂 great video as always.
I'm personally a little confused when it comes to placing the ps5 vertical. I've had mine for about 2 weeks and I placed it vertical since I don't really have to room to place it horizontal. In this video you show the the metal slides down but this is without the clamp on. Wouldn't the clamp and the pressure provided but that mitigate this problem? So yeah my main question is should I make room to place my ps5 horizontal or can I just leave it vertical?
(Note I do have the newest version of the ps5 and I don't use it as my main "gaming device". So it might not get as much usage as someone that has a ps5 as their only console. Also there are periods that it's turned off for multiple days.)
@@noob4head It being vertically wouldn’t cost issues, the problem itself is the vents being clogged by dust and debris. I’ve had mine vertically since 2021 and haven’t had overheating problems until today. I’ve never cleaned the inside of the console, only the outer layer and the outside of the fan. So in my case, it was bound to overheat sooner or later. I suggest cleaning the entire console every 4 to 6 months a year if you want to take good care of it.
great video. its good to have a well precured videos like this for people to service their consoles. I do think that's a lot of liquid metal though lol.
Nice video :)
Glad you enjoyed it
The vertical issues don't make any sense. It won't move because it is a tight seal with the heatsink, just tipping it upright without the seal makes no sense, of course it is going to slide.
Look up pump out for thermal paste, if it can happen to thermal paste which is thicker and less viscous it will absolutely happen to liquid metal especially when the console is vertical and gravity is helping.
Thank you for the video i hope you're doing well
Hmm my Launch day PS5 has been vertical since I got be taking mine apart this weekend to see how bad this is. Thanks Steve.
Good informative video keep up the awesome job. I am always glad to see new vids from you.
This is 100% what’s making my PS5 overheat as it’s not dusty at all. My cousin has experienced the exact same issue with his PS5 too. It’s a pain in the arse. The PS5 is the most frustrating console that I’ve ever owned.
I’ve had my ps5 vertical since launch and I’ve had no problem! *knocks on wood!* lol
That seems to happen when it is vertical and not horizontal?
The dry spot seems to happen both ways
@@Tronicsfix ?I hope you are refering to the PS5 🤣
My PS5 has been in the vertical position since December 24th 2020 and never had issues with the liquid metal causing problems.
Tropicsfix, want to try and fix an old launch model PS3? HDMI port shot, due to power overload I believe.
I m interested in seeing an attempt at Steve fixing some YLOD PS3s
I do have a donor board if you need parts!
@@JimiJamma thanks for the offer. Still looking to learn about the issue. Heard about the cap replacements, it sounds like the APU and GPU are inherently faulty due the solder balls used inside the ICs.
The HDMI port stopped working after using a HDMI extender over dual Ethernet cables with power injection. Injected power, then HDMI pigtail, Apple TV 3 and PS3’s HDMI ports all no longer worked. The Multi Out A/V on the PS3 works still, but my new TV only has HDMI inputs. I have a donor board that doesn’t power up that could be used to possibly fix the the HDMI problem.
Just what I needed. If I could only get rid of annoying start up beep. Is it possible to desolder it or something. Would be good to knock that out while I'm in there.
In what situation would you attempt to remove the liquid metal and reapply new?
These dry spots aren't only an issue on Playstation 5 btw, the Zeyphrus Laptops with LM also develop dry spots on their chips. Going to be interesting to see when more and more people start complaining about overheating consoles in 2-3 years.
it snot super hard to take these apart with the right tool and fix it
@@yamisniper compared to xbox its night and day worse.
Review a refurbished DK Oldies console
What about just replacing it with really good thermal paste
How much air supply a PS5 needs to operate without issues ?
I seen that lil drop lol 😅but still love your videos
My ps5 has always been kept vertical, however, it stays where it is next to the tv, i think the bulk of the problems with ps5's are people who keep moving it around (Perhaps kids moving it to the big tv) hence they aint for travellers lol