For real. I just got some cones on EBay. Mate you looked better after they worked with you! More central/neutral on the bike, more stable and solid looking. Awesome job.
Love the analogy of learning by exaggerating so much that when you actually ride you exaggerate wayyy too much to the point that it's almost slower and you don't realize you're doing it. I have the same exact problem just never realized how to put it to words. So thanks Miranda. So good that you're slow. 😂🤘 Same, at least that's what I'm gonna say from now on.
that was helpful and you kept 16 minutes entertaining, power to you. I would love to see this same practice on a section of corners on a trail. Its a lot harder when a root or rock is right where your tire needs to be to keep strong cornering technique. Be cool to see how that comes into play.
That's a really good idea! It's hard once you get into a trail to be aware of the things we practice on cone days, but we've all noticed that just being mindful of our habits have already helped us. It'd be good for us to do this!
Super helpful...the line about explaining how to do something without understanding what it feels like is good. I am constantly trying to do something but without knowing what that feels like it can be super tricky.
Good timing! I just bought a set of those cones. However, it has been a challenge finding a good place to set up the drills. In an old Mtn Bike Action article about cornering, one of the pros interviewed said, "you never stop practicing cornering." So true.
Really need those dirt roads! It's very true, they say practice makes perfect but I don't think that applies to cornering. Or maybe even mountain biking. Unless you're Semenuk...
@@MGMAlternative "practice" hopefully means sucking less in my case. My gauge is one of my riding buddies. His ability to carry speed through corners is uncanny.
Nice one! What I think is what Jesse could do a lil bit more is to look a bit more ahead. Sometimes it looked like his focus was more on his front tire or short in front of it. when he brings his focus further forward he could turn more through turning his head into the turns. i think this depends on the forward position of jesse. you can see a difference between remis and jesses approach. Remi looks further ahead and turns a bit more with his head and then the shoulders follow his head. I like cone drills. so easy to set up and so much fun.
Outstanding! I spent a good portion of this winter running cones and combined with video and feedback from a coach it was extremely beneficial. I'm still nowhere near "the worst of MGM" but hey - #goals...
Damn it, I've been waiting for the Jesse reviews trail snacks video....that start got me so excited. Then all we go was cornering tips, give the people what they want!
Cool to watch you guys break it down! Inspires me to run some cones...but for now I'll just keep pretending from my couch. ... also GoPro footage would help with that.
Awesome video gang! If I may be so bold and offer my perspective (fearless feedback) yet whilst acknowledging that I could never ride as fast as any of you...... Jesse - try looking up more. Remi, maybe try outside elbow up more. Miranda - try staying more centred between the wheels - appears to fade to the rear sometimes. All excellent riding though and much respect, as you are already some of the best riders in the world! Stoked to watch you all race again soon!
Amazing video as always! Personally I've found by doing cone drills like this, using a freelap timer, or other way to actually record your speed is very crucial. Sometimes our perception of speed can be off. I've noticed myself, if it feels fast/flashy/drifty/cool, it't not actually faster than being very smooth (sometimes feels slow) and in control. Obviously you guys are probably more in tune with that, but it's just a thought!
Nobody is talking about the position of the external leg position. Remi and Miranda are wasting way more energy and unnecessary movement, putting they're weight on the external leg, as if it's a road bike. Strong leg ahead, reduce your leg movement and keep them as much parallel to the ground (with little corrections). Look how Jesse doe's it.. (3:02) Good luck! thanks for the video!
It's a fine line, it starts with pushing into the ground to weight the tires and gain the traction to make the corner, with that done properly you will come out of the corner and unweight the wheels to do it again in the next corner.
Men I’ve gotta get some cones, on the other hand I want a upgrade my bike I race enduro and sometimes DH, but if that’s going to be my all round bike for that and trail riding (pedaling) I think 150 rear is the sweet spot what do you guys think 150 or 160?, those rocky altitudes look like a dream but way out of my budget
Probably depends on where you live, but I don't think you can go wrong with either! Both the Rocky MTN Altitude and the Kona Process X have adjustments that change the travel length making them pretty versatile bikes.
@@MGMAlternative , I've gotten a reply from Brussels! "Hello Sir/Madam, please file a historical property and roadway change application and we will file it"
I noticed they all drop their outside pedal when cornering. Is this something to do on trail as well (or just a cone scenario) ? I always thought you were supposed to keep your pedals horizontal when cornering?
For turns in quick succession like in this video, I keep my feet pretty level and really push into the corners for traction. Weighting into the turns almost comes naturally because of the way you shift your weight laterally while also shifting your bike under you. Also sometimes you don't have time to drop the outside pedal. I also normally use the same technique in sharp corners. I only drop the outside around large radius bends where you have time to setup and can't push your bike into it as well (assuming there's no berm).
The more you drop your outside foot the more traction you create. So it depends on what you need on the trail, in a particular corner. It's not just a "one way fits all" thing. As mentioned above, on berms you can often stay flat pedaled. Just depends on the corner and how tight and how much traction you need...
@@MGMAlternative well nevermind then. -Some internet guy who couldnt resist commenting on a pro-mtbers equipment. Shorter bars helped me with that issue. Thanks for great vids!
Thanks for the video! Dirt roads here are loose over hardpack. Perfect for practice :P
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I see that Remi and Miranda are switching their forward foot between each turn, but Jesse isn't... what is the right technique? Is it a personal preference?
most people have a stronger forward foot and often stick with that - let's say you ride right foot forward, when you turn left you drop the front foot (right) forward and down to the bottom of the stroke. When you turn right you drop the rear foot (left) back and down. You reverse it if you ride the other way round. Most people are better at back foot turns. So if your right foot forward then your left turns are likely stronger. But if you have the skills to switch it then even better. I guess similar to riding fakie if you snowboard.
I think it depends on the corner, outside foot forward helps open your hips to lead into the corner, but it isn't always possible and can be tough in rougher corners.
@@JesseMelamedMTB She already hit it (if I'm not mistaken). She just needs to upload it. I also don't mean it in a negative way, I'm just so freaking stoked to see her hit that monster of a drop. Edit: you have some pretty sick content, gained a new subscriber.
It's okay. Nobody tells you the hardest part of RUclips is coming up with a name. You were waiting for a roaring lion to appear? Maybe if we're successful we'll be sued!
“I’m so good that I’m slow” needs to be the slogan for the first batch of MGM Alternative merch
We're writing that down....right next to "Commit or Eat Sh*t"
yes
I would buy some “I’m so good that I’m slow” merch!
I'm legit slow so where does that leave me? 😆
Man I gotta move to Squamish for those mint dirt roads
They're pretty top notch.
Pretty much why I live here. The trails are good, but them dirt roads are 👌
I need more cone drills!
We have the cones...
For real. I just got some cones on EBay. Mate you looked better after they worked with you! More central/neutral on the bike, more stable and solid looking. Awesome job.
@@Windband1 always looking to get better
IM TRIGGERED!
We're here for you. We hear for you?
To see a EWS champion take advice from his fellow riders is inspiring, and I guess that's one of the reason he is a champ
Love the analogy of learning by exaggerating so much that when you actually ride you exaggerate wayyy too much to the point that it's almost slower and you don't realize you're doing it. I have the same exact problem just never realized how to put it to words. So thanks Miranda. So good that you're slow. 😂🤘 Same, at least that's what I'm gonna say from now on.
that was helpful and you kept 16 minutes entertaining, power to you. I would love to see this same practice on a section of corners on a trail. Its a lot harder when a root or rock is right where your tire needs to be to keep strong cornering technique. Be cool to see how that comes into play.
That's a really good idea! It's hard once you get into a trail to be aware of the things we practice on cone days, but we've all noticed that just being mindful of our habits have already helped us. It'd be good for us to do this!
Super helpful...the line about explaining how to do something without understanding what it feels like is good. I am constantly trying to do something but without knowing what that feels like it can be super tricky.
Thanks Lacy! Feelings translate into actions and visuals can help create feelings! I think... 🤔
Good timing! I just bought a set of those cones. However, it has been a challenge finding a good place to set up the drills.
In an old Mtn Bike Action article about cornering, one of the pros interviewed said, "you never stop practicing cornering." So true.
Really need those dirt roads! It's very true, they say practice makes perfect but I don't think that applies to cornering. Or maybe even mountain biking. Unless you're Semenuk...
@@MGMAlternative "practice" hopefully means sucking less in my case. My gauge is one of my riding buddies. His ability to carry speed through corners is uncanny.
This is great guys, I'm so glad you decided to start this channel. Funny people, nice people :)
And we can learn sooooo much from you
Welcome aboard!
Nice one! What I think is what Jesse could do a lil bit more is to look a bit more ahead. Sometimes it looked like his focus was more on his front tire or short in front of it. when he brings his focus further forward he could turn more through turning his head into the turns. i think this depends on the forward position of jesse. you can see a difference between remis and jesses approach. Remi looks further ahead and turns a bit more with his head and then the shoulders follow his head.
I like cone drills. so easy to set up and so much fun.
Thanks for the tips! I will think of looking farther ahead next time!
Looking ahead! Although more simple than cornering, similar in the sense you never seem to master it!
@@MGMAlternative totally. Never to late to get back to the basics.
Always entertaining and even in an instructional vid Miranda's humor shows through. You guys make a great team that's fun to watch. Thx
That's our mission! Using all three unique personalities to create something for everyone.
Outstanding! I spent a good portion of this winter running cones and combined with video and feedback from a coach it was extremely beneficial. I'm still nowhere near "the worst of MGM" but hey - #goals...
That is super cool to hear! Keep up the hustle.
This is awesome seeing you three geek out & I've learned a lot ❤
Thanks for these amazing videos!!!!
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
Damn it, I've been waiting for the Jesse reviews trail snacks video....that start got me so excited. Then all we go was cornering tips, give the people what they want!
Maybe we can convince Jesse to try one of every gel.
Great video! Thanks!
Thank YOU!
Love the format. Feel like I get a lot out of it too in term of what to look for and so on.
It was cool that by helping each other it made us all a bit better. Hopefully you can get some good practice in!
@@MGMAlternative Yeah for sure! Motivated to go hit the cones with my friends now.
Yeah that’s cool.....but how many laps did you ?
Well if we count backwards and forwards and every time I turned left like you did. Then probably 100,000.
@@JesseMelamedMTB Seems reasonable
@@PaulThePunter so Paul will you make some more coaching videos with this guys again?
Cool to watch you guys break it down! Inspires me to run some cones...but for now I'll just keep pretending from my couch.
...
also GoPro footage would help with that.
My channel has LOTS of GoPro footage :)
Love this episode..
Awesome video gang! If I may be so bold and offer my perspective (fearless feedback) yet whilst acknowledging that I could never ride as fast as any of you...... Jesse - try looking up more. Remi, maybe try outside elbow up more. Miranda - try staying more centred between the wheels - appears to fade to the rear sometimes. All excellent riding though and much respect, as you are already some of the best riders in the world! Stoked to watch you all race again soon!
Good tips! We'll think about those next time we do cones. Thanks!
@@MGMAlternative Stroked with your new channel.... keep up the awesome work! 😉🙏🏻👍🏼
Amazing video as always!
Personally I've found by doing cone drills like this, using a freelap timer, or other way to actually record your speed is very crucial. Sometimes our perception of speed can be off. I've noticed myself, if it feels fast/flashy/drifty/cool, it't not actually faster than being very smooth (sometimes feels slow) and in control. Obviously you guys are probably more in tune with that, but it's just a thought!
We have used timing in the past as you are correct, it helps to know what is actually fast and replicable vs what feels good.
Thanks for this one , like Miranda says great to see yourself in film for a reality check
always a reality check. Sometimes good sometimes not....
What a cool Team! 😎
Thanks!
Next one on loose, dry, dusty road? Enjoyed the format and look forward to any and all future riding tips!
Definitely! And a bit faster too.
sounds like road rash waiting to happen! We're in!
Nobody is talking about the position of the external leg position.
Remi and Miranda are wasting way more energy and unnecessary movement, putting they're weight on the external leg, as if it's a road bike.
Strong leg ahead, reduce your leg movement and keep them as much parallel to the ground (with little corrections).
Look how Jesse doe's it.. (3:02)
Good luck! thanks for the video!
Would be cool to see a follow up video to see the progress.
Smashing the like button!
Notification gang!
RUclips Star!
Im doing this kind of training everyday and I would say Remi did it best.
I agree that he was the fastest, but he also made mistakes more than Miranda and I.
@@JesseMelamedMTB 😂👌👍
I'm old and have bad habits. Been riding mtb since 1991. How do you unweight both wheels and initiate the next corner in a series?
It's a fine line, it starts with pushing into the ground to weight the tires and gain the traction to make the corner, with that done properly you will come out of the corner and unweight the wheels to do it again in the next corner.
Men I’ve gotta get some cones, on the other hand I want a upgrade my bike I race enduro and sometimes DH, but if that’s going to be my all round bike for that and trail riding (pedaling) I think 150 rear is the sweet spot what do you guys think 150 or 160?, those rocky altitudes look like a dream but way out of my budget
Probably depends on where you live, but I don't think you can go wrong with either! Both the Rocky MTN Altitude and the Kona Process X have adjustments that change the travel length making them pretty versatile bikes.
@@MGMAlternative Ok, I’ve been wondering who of you edit this videos 😂?
Bro! I have dirt roads!
SHOW US!
we dont believe you!
them dirt roads are so much better than our gravel roads in gothenburg
We have dirt roads in Australia
Good ones we've seen!
how waterproof is your RF jacket Jesse? Is it north shore proof?
Is anything north shore proof? I'd say it's close, but it's not gore-tex pro...
Cone sale's just went up.
We're getting commission.
thanks to you I just bought cones
Im over in Europe. Just asked if it cares how long your bike is. "don't care" was its answer.
we knew it...can you change its mind?
@@MGMAlternative , I've gotten a reply from Brussels! "Hello Sir/Madam, please file a historical property and roadway change application and we will file it"
I noticed they all drop their outside pedal when cornering. Is this something to do on trail as well (or just a cone scenario) ? I always thought you were supposed to keep your pedals horizontal when cornering?
Form my experience drop the pedal on flatter corners but if it’s like a berm or a wall ride keep them level
For turns in quick succession like in this video, I keep my feet pretty level and really push into the corners for traction. Weighting into the turns almost comes naturally because of the way you shift your weight laterally while also shifting your bike under you. Also sometimes you don't have time to drop the outside pedal. I also normally use the same technique in sharp corners. I only drop the outside around large radius bends where you have time to setup and can't push your bike into it as well (assuming there's no berm).
The more you drop your outside foot the more traction you create. So it depends on what you need on the trail, in a particular corner. It's not just a "one way fits all" thing. As mentioned above, on berms you can often stay flat pedaled. Just depends on the corner and how tight and how much traction you need...
Cone drills... so hot right now.
You won’t believe the dirt road in Nepal. Sometimes it looks like a landslide!
How wide are Remi’s bars? Looks a little limiting in pushing the bike down on the inside.
Remi runs 760mm although has recently been trying 750mm.
@@MGMAlternative well nevermind then. -Some internet guy who couldnt resist commenting on a pro-mtbers equipment. Shorter bars helped me with that issue. Thanks for great vids!
Gotta get back to ripping cones in the local park.
Get after it!
That's a wet dream of a dirt road there guys.
You weren't supposed to find this video yet! Sneak Peak just for you!
Thanks for the video! Dirt roads here are loose over hardpack. Perfect for practice :P
I see that Remi and Miranda are switching their forward foot between each turn, but Jesse isn't... what is the right technique? Is it a personal preference?
most people have a stronger forward foot and often stick with that - let's say you ride right foot forward, when you turn left you drop the front foot (right) forward and down to the bottom of the stroke. When you turn right you drop the rear foot (left) back and down. You reverse it if you ride the other way round. Most people are better at back foot turns. So if your right foot forward then your left turns are likely stronger. But if you have the skills to switch it then even better. I guess similar to riding fakie if you snowboard.
I think it depends on the corner, outside foot forward helps open your hips to lead into the corner, but it isn't always possible and can be tough in rougher corners.
I think Miranda has a future in comedy once she's done with MTB. Needs to work on her wink game though.
Ohhh you mean the Wink-blink?!?
Don't encourage her!
Me: "haha. Remi gets self conscious turning around cones!"
Also me: wipes out around cone, falling off hillside into tree.
hahaha *looks around quickly to make sure no one saw anything
Are you guys really Pros? Wow, I wouldn’t have known , you’ve never mentioned it before
Where
Is
The
Brutus
Drop
Progression takes time!
@@JesseMelamedMTB She already hit it (if I'm not mistaken). She just needs to upload it. I also don't mean it in a negative way, I'm just so freaking stoked to see her hit that monster of a drop.
Edit: you have some pretty sick content, gained a new subscriber.
@@Romans--pe4yh haha I know. We have other videos planned first!
Maybe that was just Remi in a wig?!
drills for euro corners :D
It took me multiple videos to understand the acronym MGM, and now I feel dumb
It's okay. Nobody tells you the hardest part of RUclips is coming up with a name. You were waiting for a roaring lion to appear? Maybe if we're successful we'll be sued!
Remi your semi there lol
haha he just wanted to get to the end right away!
Dirt Roads? I only got gravel!
Ohhh that IS FANCY!
A nice, light gravely-ness, almost never flat, mostly filled with tourists. 🤌
Sure is!
Taiwan paved all its dirt roads. Making them not dirt roads...
Dirt Paths?
Loose over loose pack.
Next it's loose over loose looseness.
Dirt roads.. Ha ha.. Yes we have them but the moment your tyres touch them some low life desperado will try and rob you..