Tell Vessi that this advertising is working and that they should start shipping to Europe. You say "free shipping to..." but the reality is, those are the only countries they ship to.
Gotta be said Simon, you were accurate as hell when saying it was good police work... (more specifically the reason why) ... let's check the list... Nevada. Republican. White. Politician (more specifically treasurer.... she had the purse strings) yeah... they were going to get to the bottom of that as fast as possible.
I’m a doctor in Australia and if I can get into a training program I’d really like to try become a forensic pathologist so this episode was really, really interesting for me. Also with the intubation and voice thing, yeah. I had surgery as a thirteen year old and my voice wasn’t right for years afterwards.
Sadly, a few years later Dallas, Kathy's daughter, murdered her girlfriend and then killed herself. Surprised that wasn't in the Dismembered Appendices
I'm fairly certain Kathy conspired with Chaz to take out her husband. It makes it hard to feel sympathy for her, considering she was willing to inflict the same suffering on someone else.
Simon. There is a BIG difference between “volunteering” and being informed by your employer that you’re expected to put in “volunteer” hours if you want to stay employed. The latter is unfortunately common in corporate America. And generally the pressure is applied subtly enough that if the employee takes it “to tribunal” as you suggest, the employer can say “oh, wow, I never realized (s)he felt like that, I would never…” and the burden of proof is on the employee.
I've never had employers ask me to work for free. Maybe part of it is the fact that they know I'm willing to walk out at any time. Maybe that's an unfortunate fact. But the more willing a decent employee is to just leave, the less bs they get from their boss.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 I agree. I’ve never had this happen to me, either, but apparently it’s a thing in some corporations. But if people put up with this kind of crap, employers will keep pushing the limits.
@anna9072 I'm sure the people who put up with I have their reasons. They don't want to have to look for a different job, etc. They may have the belief that they won't find another decent job. Although I would argue that a job that doesn't require me to work for free would be a better job.
This is crazy! My Mom used to work with Kathy Augustine. My Mom hated Kathy so much. I heard her complain about her all the time. She quit because she was so toxic to work with. Two years later after we had moved away one of my Mom's old work friends told her Kathy had died of a heart attack. My Mom was in a great mood all day afterward. I did not know she had been murdered until I watched this episode! 🤯
The logistics of this is insane... Your mom worked with this woman decades ago and a guy from the UK living in Czech who eventually made a podcast THAT YOU LISTENED TO, probably in America, about the woman your mom worked with being commented on by another American WHO LIVES IN THE MIDDLE EAST ... I almost feel like there is a story about that in and of itself.
@@kymaeryk It gets even crazier when you realise I used to live in Nevada, but immigrated to the UK a few years ago. So I was in Scotland as I was watching this! It's a small world after all. lol
I'm alive today because an AMAZING human had that exact wish and I received a double lung transplant only hours before My lungs fully gave out at age 22. I Thank you Organ donor and your family every day. I hope I make your family proud. (something positive for today's casual criminalist)
@Sasheenka yeah, but whether that is practical depends on when it is authorized by the family. Years in a coma can and damaging treatments can ruin organs for transplant. Detailing a desire to not prolong his life and allowing donation at the earliest opportunity maximizes the benefits of his misfortune.
@@Sasheenka I'm rather of the opinion we should all be in an opt-out system because there's a creepy element to agreeing to have your organs harvested that could lead to many not opting-in, but it's not enough to make me opt out.
@@KnightOwl1881 That's not what he implied.. Just the sheer level of it being a massive open secret. I'm from the UK too and here corruption is more sneaky. A few backroom deals here, a few secret calls there. It's not known about until it's exposed (like the Rona party Boris and his mates had or the trying to take beds away from the hospitals mid pandemic so Tories mates can get extra money). Our corruption is scummy in a different way. In America it seems to be so in the open and in your face that it's jarring. In America, they know they can just get away with it because money. The US wears it like a badge whereas the UK tries to hide and will do other terrible stuff to mask it. Both completely saturated in corruption, just go about it in a different way.
I think the problem with criminals who discuss their crimes is that you clearly have to be a certain type of person to commit a crime and that same type can’t keep their mouths shut.
Here's the part people don't get. When they are making jokes and talking about it they're just venting and not really planning anything yet. By the time they get around to being willing to murder they've already told everyone who will listen though and it's too late to take it back. Now they could try something really crazy like you know not murdering anyone but by then they're dead set on it so only prison would stop them.
@@charlesjmouse Well if enough credible people believe it so, then yes. As they’re mostly doctors. Otherwise they mostly half ass it or brush it off on the side because it’s not credible enough and be put under as “Conspiracy Theory”. There is a reason why there are so many cold cases that piles on every year.
When I hear these stories, the only thing that goes through my head is "What if this was a poor Black woman?" Or any low income person of color for that matter. Heathcare is "wealth-care".
Which, by all accounts also seemed like a terrible person. She didn't deserve to die, but she was only investigated to this degree because of how rich she is
Just as an aside, the position is actually the State COMPtroller - not controller. It's easily confused because most people think it's a spelling mistake. But a Comptroller is actually a financial officer. I work for the Provincial Government in finance and one of the executives is the Comptroller General. Not sure what the deal is with the word, but that is actually the position she had. Just an information tid bit for the day
@@matthewlook3597 LOL yes, me too. And hey, Simon was not necessarily wrong - there is a level of controlling stuff in the job. I give Simon all the props, he is talking about stuff he does not know about and he does the cold reads and such. I love what he does. In this case, he was wrong. GRIN
it's an old variation of the word. referring to computing. it's supposed to be someone who checks that the books check out and be responsible for that stuff
I know Simon would hope the detectives’ actions would be standard but remember Chaz chose this method to mimic a heart attack. The police would not get involved in an apparent medical death even one involving a politician. But when you have the husband not just voicing his desire for his wife to die (even by murder) and describing he would do with a specific drug for its lack of detection that’s going to ring alarm bells.
What is sad for this family is that after going through all this, the daughter Dallas ended up killing her partner and herself due to relationship issues.
Her family hadn’t had much contact with her for a while when it happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was abused by her mother and the mother’s side of the family for being gay given her mother and family’s political affiliation. Especially, given how abusive Kathy was to her husbands.
It wasn’t due to relationship issues, it was due to mental and character issues on the part of Dallas. Bad relationships and fighting doesn’t cause murders.
@MCKevin289 I disagree. She made a heartfelt speech in court about her mom, And her mom made a great effort to make sure her daughter got her money after she died. Obviously this isn't concrete, but Imo, the lack of a consistent 2nd parental figure, and the traumatic loss of her mom, may have primed her to have serious mental issues I dont wanna be all armchair psychologist, but I feel like the method of killing a partner and then yourself shows a fear of abandonment, "if I can't have you, no one can" kind of mentality. Maybe she felt like her girlfriend was going to leave her or something? Eh who knows
@maddieb.4282 Dude, this ignorance is the exact kind of argument abusive parents pull when their kids turn out to be psychologically troubled. "Oh we couldn't have known Kyle would wind up in an asylum! We only beat him three times a day and locked him in a dark room for hours on end without food. It must be a character issue." Dallas was an adult who made her choices. But you can't seriously sit there and say parental abuse isn't a massive contributer and cause of mental health issues in the lives of their children.
A couple I knew were a similar odd couple. She was a high powered lawyer, he was a landscaper who worked for the city parks department. They were happily married for 50 years.
Good for them. There are lovely people across all social classes, and it's certainly possible for two people with different backgrounds to be genuinely happy together. The issues arise when it's not so much about the two people loving each other, and more of them both using each other for their money or their looks.
Stories like this reinforce my belief that we need more people in the mental health field. Chaz definitely needed some therapy on how to get out of a toxic relationship without committing a heinous crime. On a tangent, love my Vessi sneakers… I have 2 pairs. One for going out and one for walking the meadows with the dog. ❤
Having more people in the field doesn't mean more people will get helped. Many people simply don't feel comfortable talking about their problems with strangers or even with people they know. Then there's the strong stigma on mental illness that's almost omnipresent which makes a lot of people either ashamed of having to seek mental treatment or at least very reticent. Then there's the third category that simply prefer to bury their issues and pretend they don't exist. I'm guilty of all three of them as well...
I think more education about mental health is needed. My opinion on the subject went from totally pointless to very useful once I actually knew something about it.
I agree that we definitely need to educate people that seeking mental health care does not mean the person is broken or crazy, he/she just need a little help - just like if you had high blood pressure or diabetes. The stigma has got to go because it’s discouraging people from seeking help. This also extends to the person who needs help. Therapy helped me immeasurably, but it took a while to admit that I couldn’t go on alone - but my kids got told that their mom was crazy because she was seeing someone for depression. Sigh.
I know that terror firsthand. It is utterly horrific. The story? I have atypical anaphylaxis. One of the symptoms I have if the anaphylaxis is left untreated is that I get progressive paralysis, but retain full awareness (until I pass out, or course). The ER staff were convinced that I was faking it (long story), so the doctor told the nurse to not give me epinephrine. I heard a nurse say “I’ve lost her peripheral pulse” then “I’ve lost her central pulse.” I can only assume that epi was given to me right away after that, as a nurse had it in hand. I have maybe 15 minutes ‘missing’, but clearly did not go without oxygen for very long, and had no lasting anoxic effects. (I later had a brain injury from untreated anaphylaxis, but that was a different circumstance). The biggest lasting effect was PTSD. It’s much better, but to this day, when I go to an ER, I have a dose of epinephrine on my person. Always.
Would a medical alert bracelet help? It seems like a way to communicate your condition to ER workers when you can't communicate.....I wish you good health
That doctor should for sure be sued. The nurse can't legally give the EPI if the doctor doesn't order it/tells her not to, and it sounds like the doctor just watched you suffer until passing out. That sounds horrific, I'm so sorry that happened to you
2:20 - Chapter 1 - The death of Kathy Augustine 3:25 - Mid roll ads 5:25 - Back to the video 9:30 - Chapter 2 - Kathy augustine, politician, wife, mother 13:20 - Chapter 3 - The husbands of kathy augustine 23:30 - Chapter 4 - The politician & the ER Nurse 31:55 - Chapter 5 - Don't tell other people about your crimes 39:00 - Chapter 6 - Don't go on TV 42:55 - Chapter 7 - Hide the evidence of your crimes 50:30 - Chapter 8 - Don't involve other people in your crimes 52:40 - Chapter 9 - Keep your story straight 1:00:05 - Chapter 10 - If you want to get away with murder, being a billionaire is helpful 1:05:45 - Dismembered appendices PS: Boi, when B Cosby is gonna get his installment...things are gonna be spicy !!! And btw; "the perfect murder"; this is giving me "Leopold & Loeb" vibes...
Omg, I must of been living under a rock, because this is my first time ever seeing a video from The Casual Criminalist & Simon. I'm a huge TC watcher & never hearing of this channel before, blows my mind.🤯 I'm so thankful it came up on my recommended today. I know TC cases are not something to laugh at. Which I wasn't laughing at the case itself. But I personally don't mind some comedy added throughout the video. It breaks up the tension. I can honestly say, I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. 😂😂Simon's sense of humor is honestly impeccable. While he almost seems so well mannered & proper in one moment, then the next he says something just....well hysterically not so proper! Lol! I absolutely love it! Well done! I've definitely subscribed. Can't wait to binge the rest of the vids! 💯
I just want to put it out there, that if you're the first woman to do something, whether you like it or not you are representing us and setting an example. Instead, she showed that women are just as capable of being a controlling abusive spouse and a selfish corrupt politician as men can be. Then she cried after being rightfully impeached, what a humiliating representative. It does not justify her murder in the slightest, but we should expect better of our politicians. Just because you can doesn't mean you should and she should have let a better woman run.
That is common knowledge, and if not it should be. Everyone believing there is one better gender doesn't have their priorities straight. Women are as bad as men. But they are also as good as men.
@@アンドレーエフ貝I think nowadays it doesn’t matter so much, but back in the 1800’s and 1900’s I’d most certainly have wanted a man in any position of power within the government. There’s one reason. War. For better or worse, in a time of wars and conscription, I’d want someone who served in a trench in charge - not someone whose patriotic duty was handing out white feathers calling children that didn’t go to fight cowards. War is easy if the only risk to you is *maybe* having to work a factory. If you’ve been the foot soldier storming a beach, you’ll think twice about sending the next kid. You win wars with Admirals, not housewife’s.
studied genetic engineering. got super into anatomy and was able to work at a cadaver lab for a bit. Simon's last statement, that you just walk up to a coworker and ask bizarre questions that would normally get you fired or questioned by the FBI was a daily occurrence there. One of the first things I had to do was remove the lenses from some eyeballs. After retrieving one I said "wow eyes are a lot harder to cut than I expected". It just goes downhill from there tbh. such a weird yet amazing stint of my education.
I dissected cow eyeballs as a demonstration for my sixth grade science classes a few years ago, and I would agree with your observation. The scalpel was virtually useless, and I ended up using dissection scissors for almost all of it. Thank goodness I practiced once before I did it for the kids. 😁
@@VictoriaEMeredithHa me too. Took us absolutely forever to get into that eyeball, it flew away several times. I used to think eyes where super fragile but they're pretty tough. At least cows eyes, I haven't tried with mine... In the end it was the three of us stabbing it maniacally. I forget how we eventually got it but we did remove the lens successfully. That class was wild... 30 kids with knives stabbing eyeballs and occasionally one flying off. But we had a great teacher, bio was one of my favourite subjects.
As a chemist weird questions were basically a daily occurrence. Our shadowrun games ended up with us unplugging the Echo before we got started because of all the weird questions it would overhear and we were concerned they’d call the police when we were looking up how we could make thermite or drugs with things we could find at Walgreens and not the super expensive stuff the game books said we needed.
Absolutely with you Mr W. I have long said I plan to die in my own bed, unrepentant at a great age, looking at least 20 years younger than my chronological age.I wish anyone who reads this the same too.
I think my grandad had a good one. He and my grandmother went to visit some friends after sitting there chatting with them for a while he fell asleep in the chair something he would do very regularly and never woke up he was probably there half hour dead before anyone realised so painless sudden and with friends in my mind ideal
I'd like that too, however, I wouldn't mind the idea of someone having an opportunity to save me. Dying in bed means I'll be dead for hours with no opportunity for any help. As a bachelor, dying in my sleep means it'll be the smell of my body that gets someone's attention.
I hope that as a biotechnologist and biologist with cell culture and gene editing focuses. Even if politicians make immortality treatments illegal for everyone on religious grounds even for people not of the same religion.i can make it myself for myself
I used to work for a state and though it made no sense, the state Fire Commissioner, Insurance Commissioner and Industrial Loan Commissioner was also the Comptroller General. Yes, all of these were the same person and it was an elected position. In the 31 years there were 9 elections because I started 1.5 years before the election.
i still feel like a terrible person since i get so happy getting to listen to simon talk about such horrible things....but here we are.....again....my heart is happy.
My mom is 70 and has been struggling with chronic illness for her entire life. At this point, they can't even do surgeries on her because they're afraid she'll die on the table. Chronic organ infections, heart and liver disease, edema, cognitive decline, can't move around very easily, always randomly falling asleep (which is why they had to take her license after she crossed the median 1 too many times) She's dying slowly right before my eyes and she knows it. She's simultaneously terrified and also just way past ready to die. It's fucking terrible. I'm with Simon. Take me quick, preferably in my sleep, after a long (but not *too* long) and happy life.
I don't normally comment in the middle of a Simon video, but yea. My Mom had been having minor strokes for about 5 years and never said anything to anyone. She just thought she was getting old and didn't understand what was going on for short periods. Then she has a big stroke. People getting older need to be able to recognize the signs so they can ask for help. --- back to the the show :)
Recognizing a stroke is very hard. My mom was on chemo when she had hers first stroke. But since she was also a former alcoholic going through a very difficult period of her life, well, she just looked drunk to me. It took me at least a day to realize what was going on.
this, but also strokes and such can be harder to recognise with women because they present somewhat differently and we are often more familiar with the symptoms in men :(
Yes! Strokes and heart attack are also often missed in women as the tell tale signs differ from those accepted and known for men. So informative pushes especially of vulnerable populations is so important.
Often younger women have strokes and they go unnoticed. My great grandma had a fatal stroke at 48, my grandma had one in her mid 60s, so I’m genetically predisposed to them, I also have migraines with auras which put me at high risk. When I had to take birth control with estrogen for a short time, they put me on the lowest dose but it didn’t work the way it was supposed to (was supposed to fix something else wasn’t being used for BC). They upped my dose and I had to be monitored every hour by my boyfriend to ensure I wasn’t having a stroke that would go unnoticed. I also can’t go to chiropractors or smoke because both would 100x my chance for a stroke. Sometimes I do wonder when I have a brain fart or feel some tingling on my cheek if that’s a stroke but it would be so minor the docs couldn’t tell.
Please put it in writing Simon and anyone else reading this. Don't leave the choice to your loved ones. Even when we can rationalize that our loved one is gone it's hard to take that final act. Put it in writing. Tell your doctor, tell your friends, tell your loved ones. Make it CLEAR so should the time ever come the right actions are taken. Take it from someone who faced this exact situation.
Everyone wants to pass peacefully in their sleep yet refuse to give our loved ones such dignity and force full rescue measures. I get so angry when a patient chose DNR, then the family revokes it first chance they can
A living will is the way to go. Also appoint a health care power of attorney but say that they can’t override your written wishes. I had this in place since I was a legal adult. Working as a nurse I have seen too many family fights about what “mom” or what “dad” would want. Don’t wait until you need it because then it is obviously too late. Don’t leave your family to have to make this choice for you. Most doctor’s offices can give you the form to fill out (in the USA, not sure about other countries).
Simon, You want to be put in a PET scan for the highlighted brain area with different colors. (These are show what areas are active when certain stimulus are introduced, assuming the brain is capable of interpreting that stimulus.) It is worth noting that these scans are much more rare than MRI machines. (Assume that they are more expensive and that the scan takes much longer to do and read.) I am mostly aware of them as a research tool rather than a diagnostic one. The basic lines on a piece of paper or a screen, that's what an EEG displays. (These are used to show brain activity during sleep, for example, and in epilepsy diagnosis & treatment.)
On your last comment speaking as a biochemistry student you are absolutely correct we get up to some stuff. I spent an afternoon on a lab bench being hit with a tendon hammer and electrocuted for lab work.
Oh Simon, so glad to find you again! You are both my favorite and my daughter’s. When she moved out last summer all her RUclips channels we watched disappeared with her. What fate that you show up for the first time ever in my feed. Good to see you old friend❤️
Stroke detection and rehabilitation has come a long way. In 1980 my grandfather was literally on his way home from a check up when a massive stroke occurred. His doctor told him he was just getting old and to go home and take it easy. If only the doctor had prescribed a baby aspirin he might avoided it at least that time around but that little trick wasn't well known until a few years later along with the importance of physical therapy immediately following a stroke.
Its the first episode of the Casual Criminalist I've watched. Indeed it is much less formal than any of the other channels that Simon hosts. It could even be called "Casual." I realise that is what I like about it. Simon is much more engaging, revealing what a funny conversationalist he probably is. I'll be watching more, because I'm a bit of a true crime fan.
Simon, may I suggest the crazy story on the Green River Killer Gary Ridgeway? He escaped police custody for over 20 years and murdered dozens of people. I actually met the lawyer who defended him in court twice in college. The lawyer passed away a few years back from cancer. I recall the 2nd time meeting him that he was bald, and didn't know it was because he was fighting cancer till I read about his death in the newspaper. RIP
Would love to see a story on the Olive family. 1975ish in Marin Co, California. As I knew both parties involved, I'd love to see a deep dive. I (and many of my friends) believed the police had it backwards. She was the instigator and he was the follower. They still have the belief back in the day that a woman couldn't be that brutal. Anyway, there was a book written called Bad Blood which would be a good starting point. Hope you all look into it. The crazy part for me was a few days after the murders, we had a huge bonfire party without knowing this is where they burned the bodies. They wouldn't be found till later. Thanks for the very interesting videos.
As someone with a condition where I end up fully aware but unable to move or speak on a pretty regular basis, it sucks hugely. People pull a lot of shit when they think you can't hear them or can't fight back
How does Simon not know what a comptroller is when he literally just read it out a few minutes before?😂 I guess he wasn't kidding when he said that he retains almost nothing from the scripts. I just didn't expect it to be within a few minutes 😂
Unless there is an open case and there is reason to believe the death is suspicious then an autopsy is optional. SO there was a big rush to get everything moving and with her death imminent they needed to be sure that the body would go to the coroner and not a funeral home.
he would have gotten away with it if he hadn't talked about it. they would have never had a reason to search his stuff and find the evidence to then know what to test her body for. her death would have remained a mystery because nothing came up on tests.
I was just casually listening while doing something else and suddenly heard my bosses name. Went back to listen to the description of the poison Dr Middleburg was talking about and I work with that! Also Dr Middleburg is a great guy he does a daily walk through of the lab
Please, please,,stop 🛑 with the shorts ,I get all excited when I'm notified that you've brought out a new one ,only to find something a minute or so long, 😢 love your stuff ❤
I really have enjoyed lately binging the older more lighthearted episodes…no pun intended. But the heists, the unannounced queen’s castle tour, helicopter jailbreaks….the whole run. Plus, Simon’s funny when he’s like “What?!”…corruption comprehension as an example 🤣 this should be a playlist much better on the mental health then some of the beyond sick ones. I forgot his name but that case scared me and apparently Simon he mentioned it in several episodes after.
Locked in syndrome (LiS) There are plenty of neurological diseases and illnesses out there that can cause this. If you ever find yourself diagnosed with something like this, be sure to have a care plan, especially end of care. More people suffer from this than people realise. Not sure about the coma thing, but LiS is definitely something to be aware of for you and your loved ones.
There were rumors about succocholine having caused several servicemembers to have been wrongly declared dead on the operating table in theater in Iraq and Afghanistan, way back when. So, before my first deployment post-9/11, I had an allergy bracelet made saying that I was allergic to succocholine. I also made sure that my newfound "allergy" found its way into my medical records, so they wouldn't be able to use that stuff on me should I have to be put under the knife while we were there. Fortunately, we never had to find out whether or not I really was allergic to it, but I was pretty sure then, and i still am sure now,, that I was most definitely allergic to being declared dead prematurely.
Being a healthcare worker is exhausting, gut-wrenching, and difficult. However, it's beyond rewarding and eye-opening. Through sympathy, meaningful interactions, meeting people from all walks of life, and then being able to serve them in their time of need really balances things out. I've been so lucky to have 23 years in healthcare. There's nothing I would change.
When he speaks about being frozen it always reminds me of a short film I saw years back where he wakes up and says so you found a cure? And he is told oh no sorry, it's very rare anyone actually wakes up. The world is over populated as is and we just need spare parts. 🙀😸
I’ve actually had 12 strokes…one right after a horrible case of chicken pox that I got inside as well as outside, (finished therapy for that stroke and fell threw a plate glass window). Then had a growth in my brain and had 11 strokes before the tumor was pulled out…strokes can be very subtle….
There’s another case where a woman testified for her own murder trial. Her boyfriend dumped gas on her and set her on fire. It took a really long time before she finally passed, but it was inevitable, she had burns to 90% of her body. Her name was Judy Malinowski.
She was brain dead, which is legally dead. Heartbeat and breathing does not constitute life in this situation. So yes, she was legally dead, therefore a murder investigation started
I remember a weird story from the early 90s where a woman was dating a doctor. She would get injections for migraines from him on a semi-regular basis even after they broke up. One of those injections he also gave her HIV from a sample in the hospital and was charged and convicted of murder, despite her being alive and well for years after his conviction. Honestly don’t know what happened to her, but I assume she eventually succumbed.
I’ve noticed there’s been a lot of new editors lately. It’s probably difficult to shout out to all of them if you don’t know which will edit the story you cover.
Simon- sending the pathology samples to the FBI wasn't just cuz she was a well known public figure. We had a patient on my unit who police suspected was poisoned, we drew so many blood samples from that patient. The labs were sent to the STAT lab, visitors were restricted and monitored when they were there... point of story: we were able to detect and treat the toxin, an acquaintance was arrested. That patient wasn't a public figure, hospital staff works closely with members of emergency services. Emergency service workers have a thing, we're all in this together... we help each other out when needed. Police, EMS, Firefighters, Nurses... we take care of each other.
Can confirm that in a medical lab it's really not weird to ask for a sample of coworkers' urine etc - I'm a med lab scientist and we used our own saliva samples to validate our method for saliva testing for covid.
So many things about getting old scares the hell out of me. My nanny is 71 and the most active person I know, her goal is to visit 300 countries before she turns 80, she's already half way there 😅. But I love in fear that I will have to watch her fade away slowly. It scares me so much.
There are few positive ways to look at this, your grandmother is making the most of the rest of her life and getting old although scary implies that she had a long and somewhat fulfilling life. I lost my grandfather 2 years ago when he was 85 years old, I miss him dearly but I am happy that he enjoyed living even in his old age and loved spending time with his wife, 4 children and 5 grandchildren. It’s awesome that your grandmother is still in a position to enjoy life and you should try spending as much time as you can with her.
The perfect crime is jaywalking (not in Japan, they’ll charge you). Relatively low risk, usually no fines, everyone is already doing it, and it’s a crime lobbied for and named by car companies to avoid paying fines when pedestrians got killed by their cars. It’s fantastic! (Not actually advice) Actual advice: please look both ways before crossing the street, and don’t proceed if there’re cars coming.
And if you are traveling to a county where they drive on the opposite side than where you live make sure you look! I almost got hit in Ireland when visiting from the US, it was scary how close I came to stepping into the path of a speeding truck 😳
Still possibly explosive but better solution: put all that money towards surveillance equipment. Endure a little. Collect material. Then divorce. Threaten release= damage to her political career,if she messes with your life and career.
The fact that she wasn't willing to take care of her husband in his time of need but happily took his money when the poor man died a month later makes me so angry!!
@@ardenalexa94 no definitely not a comedy. It was a QC or a barrister and the criminal trials he was involved in and a bit of his home life. There was like 6 or 7 seasons
I remember my Dad laughing at that show. Thank you for giving back to me another happy memory of my late father, who died 3 weeks after a massive stroke 6 years ago. I still miss him every day 😢
Elected Official here: It is absolutely, positively, 100% against the rules to use City or State resources on your campaign. That's so basic and totally inexcusable. If it's "common" in NV, there needs to be a major investigation.
Perfect murder I think implies also that the person who is killed had is coming/deserved or had to die. It isn’t a perfect murder if you go out of your way to victimize some random person.
I love how we're going over possible sentences and I'm over here thinking "OR you could've just accepted that she didn't want a divorce during the campaigns, moved out, and not been in the picture until she signed the paperwork" too easy or am I wrong here?
It sounds like that's what he was trying to do. At one point he told a co-worker he'd been saving money in a secret account to be able to get an apartment and move out -- but she'd found out because, in his words, she was a controlling stalker.
She had also made a reputation for threatening the jobs of the nurses/receptionists at the hospital Chazz worked at if they didn't put him on the phone when she called. If we accept the story that Kathy refused to divorce Chazz because it wouldn't look good for her political career, and that she had somehow found out that he was trying to set up things to move out on his own, it's possible that Chazz believed that she would follow through on her threats to make sure he would be fired from his job if he left her. There was a fairly obvious imbalanced power dynamic between the two, particularly with her being considered seriously for a major position in the U.S. government, so it's not impossible that she could have pulled some favors. Ultimately, it doesn't justify murder and the way that he killed her is particularly horrifying to me. I do think, though, that it shows why Chazz may have felt like he couldn't just push forward with the divorce despite her objections.
Australian request: The disappearance of Juanita Nielsen. In the 1970’s she was a journalist, conservation activist, model, and heiress who was most likely murdered for her activism against construction companies trying to rip down and redevelop parts of Sydney. She disappeared from the Carousel Club in Kings Cross in 1975 after going there for a meeting. The crime remains unsolved. There was a lot of questionable activity with organised crime and police corruption that may have contributed to the crime never being solved. This would be a good one for the writer who covered the massive police corruption in East Coast Australia in a previous video (sorry, I can’t remember which one). Sorry to keep reposting requests. I never know if they’ve been seen or not. I heard David used to send forms for people to submit requests, but never actually saw one myself.
Now I wish that I hadn't heard about the seizure thing. I have been intubated several times. I knew that the drugs paralyze all of the muscles (including the diaphragm) but I never thought about what my body would be doing. Good thing they give amnesiac drugs too
Enjoy your YT immensely for CC. I've checked all of your videos since your first. Haven't seen one on the Green River murders outside of Seattle, WA. You plan on doing it. If you do, might have to do a two parter .
Even with all the screw ups this guy did it was still very lucky they got the critical evidence and even looked for it at all before it actually was gone forever. Makes me wonder how many times this type of murder might have been done by someone who got away with it more than anything.
I'm surprised that it wasn't mentioned that Kathy' daughter, Dallas, was involved in a murder - suicide with her own wife just a few years after Kathy's murder. There was a lot of domestic abuse in the relationship and Dallas ended up killing her wife before killing herself. Their bodies weren't found for a few days until a wellness check was performed. Very sad series of events for this family...
I don't know if this comment is read, perhaps I only need it off my chest, so it doesn't matter, but still here it is. Just to make the most important thing clear first hand, no matter that I feel very empty after this episode, nice work, I love your stuff. Your presentation, your writers and editors, everything is brilliant and so far I didn't come across even one episode I didn't like (also from Decoding the Unknown). Wasn't it for being murdered, after this episode I feel hanging with her (Kathy Augustine) having (nearly) committed the perfect murder, and it's been overlooked. That would have been if he have gotten the death penalty, or she completely succeeded if he doesn't properly recovery from feeling dead inside. What I mean is ... after this episode I cannot tell if he was a bad person or not (before getting into a relationship with her). Even if his motivations weren't ok for getting into a relationship with her, she seems to be a way bigger monster, even after he murdered her in a very horrific way. She was a powerful woman. She took his soul and crushed it without resentment or hesitation. (Someone joking about "could somebody please kill my wife" and reacting to a proposition of divorce with "I don't have a way out" might have way out, but clearly isn't seeing that (anymore). And in my regards that tells a complete own story how horrific her abuse must have been). She tried and established a whole lot control over his life. She managed to bully him out of his work place (she wasn't part of). Nobody around him (seemingly) cared that his wife threatened a whole lot people to get (obviously, why would a s.o. demand the pay checks of their partners?) more power over him. This is one of the most horrific toxic relationships I ever heard of (or had to witness). He might not have been a nice person, but when talking about him not having the right to bring her to such an horrific death, you also have to say that she hadn't had the right to humiliate, control and abuse him in such a horrific demeanour. I've got the feeling she murdered him first (mentally) and with that she enabled him to murder her. The last part where she found out about him being ready to leave and humiliate him and show him that he has no way out ... well, if I imagine someone being trapped seeing no way out, he was not the first or last person to have resorted to extreme measurements. And independently how horrific the method was I am not sure that it was intended as torture. From his perspective it might seem to be the best possibility to do it with the highest chance of not being caught and more importantly bringing it to an end. I started to become really startled throughout the episode, when he tried to break her try of controlling him by saying "We are fucking talking about it when I get home" and your reaction was "That is no way to talk to anybody." I agree in the broadest way of thinking about that, but not in her case, or anyone's who's goal is to establish, enforce or strengthen control over someone else. Given what I feel what might have been her way of dealing with him, I think he was nearly gentlemen like. I think Karen's should karen about being compared to such a horrible person, and they would be in the right, which is so ironic. I feel empty after this episode, not because of him, but because of her. I am not sure if something slipped while watching the episode, but in my head the title is "Kathy Augustine - The woman who got closest to the perfect murder".
I kinda already hit the in and out of hospitals and slowly declining bit… and I’m born the same year as you Simon! Lol Not suggesting I’m dying, yet, but I’m definitely not gonna be running and dying in my sleep in my 90s…
In the US it's comptroller's job: managing an institutions' financial reporting and accounting tasks. Usually employed by a public agency/office. Comptrollers assure the security and proper use of funds, oversee the controller's office, and manage all accounting and budgeting activity.
35:10 succinylcholine. Is a strong medication that paralizes skeletal muscles. They use it for rapid sequence induction( quickly putting someone to sleep and intubating them). Its not commonly tested for as cause of death.
Dr. Carl Coppolino was convicted of killing his wife, in 1967, with the drug. He was suspected of killing his mistress's husband with it in 1966. It may have been used as a murder weapon before this but this case was one of the first high-profile cases. Never piss off an anesthesiologist.
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You say "free shipping to..." but the reality is, those are the only countries they ship to.
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Gotta be said Simon, you were accurate as hell when saying it was good police work... (more specifically the reason why) ...
let's check the list...
Nevada.
Republican.
White.
Politician (more specifically treasurer.... she had the purse strings)
yeah... they were going to get to the bottom of that as fast as possible.
I’m a doctor in Australia and if I can get into a training program I’d really like to try become a forensic pathologist so this episode was really, really interesting for me.
Also with the intubation and voice thing, yeah. I had surgery as a thirteen year old and my voice wasn’t right for years afterwards.
Where is your merch located now....I need a notebook
Sadly, a few years later Dallas, Kathy's daughter, murdered her girlfriend and then killed herself. Surprised that wasn't in the Dismembered Appendices
I was expecting to see that too.
@@Rachelpinter Naa murder suicides happen all the time. They aren't worth a mention on their own.
Ah, sequel
I'm fairly certain Kathy conspired with Chaz to take out her husband. It makes it hard to feel sympathy for her, considering she was willing to inflict the same suffering on someone else.
Awh man that sucks. Thanks for including the interesting, unmentioned fact 👍🏼
I used to work in a senior living facility and the residents would always say “Getting old is not for the weak”.
It isn't. I can handle a lot, but getting old and possibly losing a limb are both more than I wanna do
Choosing to be weak takes a lot of courage...
“Everyone wants to live long, but no one wants to be old,” as they say
My grandfather's 91, he always says "getting old isn't too bad, but being old is".
My mother used to say, "It takes courage to get old" (and she had plenty of courage; she died 6 days before her 96th birthday.)
Simon. There is a BIG difference between “volunteering” and being informed by your employer that you’re expected to put in “volunteer” hours if you want to stay employed. The latter is unfortunately common in corporate America. And generally the pressure is applied subtly enough that if the employee takes it “to tribunal” as you suggest, the employer can say “oh, wow, I never realized (s)he felt like that, I would never…” and the burden of proof is on the employee.
America is a wank state. Land of the free? You may as well be communists
In most states and in the Federal government, it is considered unethical for any supervisor to accept the people they supervise as volunteers.
I've never had employers ask me to work for free. Maybe part of it is the fact that they know I'm willing to walk out at any time.
Maybe that's an unfortunate fact. But the more willing a decent employee is to just leave, the less bs they get from their boss.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 I agree. I’ve never had this happen to me, either, but apparently it’s a thing in some corporations. But if people put up with this kind of crap, employers will keep pushing the limits.
@anna9072 I'm sure the people who put up with I have their reasons. They don't want to have to look for a different job, etc.
They may have the belief that they won't find another decent job. Although I would argue that a job that doesn't require me to work for free would be a better job.
"Commit your crimes and shut the F*** up" -- Simon Whistler
This needs to be the actual rule.. not "don't tell anybody"
There's an old addage; Dare, Do, and Keep Silent.
We need a T- Shirt 😂 with that on it.
This is crazy! My Mom used to work with Kathy Augustine. My Mom hated Kathy so much. I heard her complain about her all the time. She quit because she was so toxic to work with. Two years later after we had moved away one of my Mom's old work friends told her Kathy had died of a heart attack. My Mom was in a great mood all day afterward. I did not know she had been murdered until I watched this episode! 🤯
The logistics of this is insane... Your mom worked with this woman decades ago and a guy from the UK living in Czech who eventually made a podcast THAT YOU LISTENED TO, probably in America, about the woman your mom worked with being commented on by another American WHO LIVES IN THE MIDDLE EAST ... I almost feel like there is a story about that in and of itself.
@@kymaeryk It gets even crazier when you realise I used to live in Nevada, but immigrated to the UK a few years ago. So I was in Scotland as I was watching this! It's a small world after all. lol
@@autumnleaf2263 yeah man the more I live abroad the more Im like the world is tiny
I worked with Chaz at South meadows ER . Kathy was a difficult woman and made his life hell.
Another rule: If your "perfect crime" is inspired by someone who got caught, IT'S NOT THE PERFECT CRIME.
I'm alive today because an AMAZING human had that exact wish and I received a double lung transplant only hours before My lungs fully gave out at age 22. I Thank you Organ donor and your family every day. I hope I make your family proud. (something positive for today's casual criminalist)
I'm glad you're here!
In the Czech Republic, where Simon lives, everyone is automatically an organ donor.
@Sasheenka yeah, but whether that is practical depends on when it is authorized by the family. Years in a coma can and damaging treatments can ruin organs for transplant. Detailing a desire to not prolong his life and allowing donation at the earliest opportunity maximizes the benefits of his misfortune.
@@Sasheenka I'm rather of the opinion we should all be in an opt-out system because there's a creepy element to agreeing to have your organs harvested that could lead to many not opting-in, but it's not enough to make me opt out.
Glad your here and I hope you live a long happy life. Best s she's to you
Simon's continual surprise at the level of political corruption in the US is both endearing and hilarious.
Corruption? In Nevada? Surely you can't mean that! **clutches pearls**
You think it's just the US?
@@KnightOwl1881 is that what you understood from op’s paragraph? Because only an idiot would have that as a take away from what’s written above.
He shouldn't be too surprised coming from the UK.
@@KnightOwl1881 That's not what he implied.. Just the sheer level of it being a massive open secret.
I'm from the UK too and here corruption is more sneaky. A few backroom deals here, a few secret calls there. It's not known about until it's exposed (like the Rona party Boris and his mates had or the trying to take beds away from the hospitals mid pandemic so Tories mates can get extra money). Our corruption is scummy in a different way.
In America it seems to be so in the open and in your face that it's jarring. In America, they know they can just get away with it because money.
The US wears it like a badge whereas the UK tries to hide and will do other terrible stuff to mask it. Both completely saturated in corruption, just go about it in a different way.
I think the problem with criminals who discuss their crimes is that you clearly have to be a certain type of person to commit a crime and that same type can’t keep their mouths shut.
Here's the part people don't get. When they are making jokes and talking about it they're just venting and not really planning anything yet.
By the time they get around to being willing to murder they've already told everyone who will listen though and it's too late to take it back.
Now they could try something really crazy like you know not murdering anyone but by then they're dead set on it so only prison would stop them.
I see you have put some thought into this 😂
There are thousands of crimes every year that go unsolved. We just hear about those that do.
Yeah bit the police say they don't catch the smart ones and this Chaz person was clearly not one of the smart ones.
Absolutely the only reason there was this level of investigation and competence was because she was a rich politician.
Surely not!
@@charlesjmouse Well if enough credible people believe it so, then yes. As they’re mostly doctors.
Otherwise they mostly half ass it or brush it off on the side because it’s not credible enough and be put under as “Conspiracy Theory”. There is a reason why there are so many cold cases that piles on every year.
When I hear these stories, the only thing that goes through my head is "What if this was a poor Black woman?" Or any low income person of color for that matter. Heathcare is "wealth-care".
@@YochevedDesigns or even just a homeless white guy, or a prostitute of any colour.
Which, by all accounts also seemed like a terrible person. She didn't deserve to die, but she was only investigated to this degree because of how rich she is
Just as an aside, the position is actually the State COMPtroller - not controller. It's easily confused because most people think it's a spelling mistake. But a Comptroller is actually a financial officer. I work for the Provincial Government in finance and one of the executives is the Comptroller General. Not sure what the deal is with the word, but that is actually the position she had. Just an information tid bit for the day
I was looking through the comments to see if anyone pointed this out lol every time he said it I yelled "COMP"
@@matthewlook3597 LOL yes, me too. And hey, Simon was not necessarily wrong - there is a level of controlling stuff in the job. I give Simon all the props, he is talking about stuff he does not know about and he does the cold reads and such. I love what he does. In this case, he was wrong. GRIN
It's "tit bit" I think.
@@kimsherriff3962 LOL, I looked it up and it's tidbit. So I was wrong, there is no space, but honestly tit bit is way funnier. :)
it's an old variation of the word. referring to computing.
it's supposed to be someone who checks that the books check out and be responsible for that stuff
I know Simon would hope the detectives’ actions would be standard but remember Chaz chose this method to mimic a heart attack. The police would not get involved in an apparent medical death even one involving a politician. But when you have the husband not just voicing his desire for his wife to die (even by murder) and describing he would do with a specific drug for its lack of detection that’s going to ring alarm bells.
What is sad for this family is that after going through all this, the daughter Dallas ended up killing her partner and herself due to relationship issues.
Her family hadn’t had much contact with her for a while when it happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was abused by her mother and the mother’s side of the family for being gay given her mother and family’s political affiliation. Especially, given how abusive Kathy was to her husbands.
@@MCKevin289 yes, definitely mental abuse if her mom was so toxic
It wasn’t due to relationship issues, it was due to mental and character issues on the part of Dallas. Bad relationships and fighting doesn’t cause murders.
@MCKevin289 I disagree.
She made a heartfelt speech in court about her mom,
And her mom made a great effort to make sure her daughter got her money after she died.
Obviously this isn't concrete, but Imo, the lack of a consistent 2nd parental figure, and the traumatic loss of her mom, may have primed her to have serious mental issues
I dont wanna be all armchair psychologist, but I feel like the method of killing a partner and then yourself shows a fear of abandonment, "if I can't have you, no one can" kind of mentality. Maybe she felt like her girlfriend was going to leave her or something? Eh who knows
@maddieb.4282 Dude, this ignorance is the exact kind of argument abusive parents pull when their kids turn out to be psychologically troubled.
"Oh we couldn't have known Kyle would wind up in an asylum! We only beat him three times a day and locked him in a dark room for hours on end without food. It must be a character issue."
Dallas was an adult who made her choices. But you can't seriously sit there and say parental abuse isn't a massive contributer and cause of mental health issues in the lives of their children.
A couple I knew were a similar odd couple. She was a high powered lawyer, he was a landscaper who worked for the city parks department. They were happily married for 50 years.
Who?
Cares
@@sargentmeatmissile-hs1us I
do :)
That's lovely!
Good for them. There are lovely people across all social classes, and it's certainly possible for two people with different backgrounds to be genuinely happy together. The issues arise when it's not so much about the two people loving each other, and more of them both using each other for their money or their looks.
How is that odd?
Stories like this reinforce my belief that we need more people in the mental health field. Chaz definitely needed some therapy on how to get out of a toxic relationship without committing a heinous crime. On a tangent, love my Vessi sneakers… I have 2 pairs. One for going out and one for walking the meadows with the dog. ❤
More people and a paid mental healthcare system if you're outside Europe.
Having more people in the field doesn't mean more people will get helped. Many people simply don't feel comfortable talking about their problems with strangers or even with people they know. Then there's the strong stigma on mental illness that's almost omnipresent which makes a lot of people either ashamed of having to seek mental treatment or at least very reticent. Then there's the third category that simply prefer to bury their issues and pretend they don't exist. I'm guilty of all three of them as well...
I think more education about mental health is needed. My opinion on the subject went from totally pointless to very useful once I actually knew something about it.
I agree that we definitely need to educate people that seeking mental health care does not mean the person is broken or crazy, he/she just need a little help - just like if you had high blood pressure or diabetes. The stigma has got to go because it’s discouraging people from seeking help. This also extends to the person who needs help.
Therapy helped me immeasurably, but it took a while to admit that I couldn’t go on alone - but my kids got told that their mom was crazy because she was seeing someone for depression. Sigh.
hot take: we also need fewer people like cathy in the world. ✨️ don't be toxic ✨️
I know that terror firsthand. It is utterly horrific. The story? I have atypical anaphylaxis. One of the symptoms I have if the anaphylaxis is left untreated is that I get progressive paralysis, but retain full awareness (until I pass out, or course). The ER staff were convinced that I was faking it (long story), so the doctor told the nurse to not give me epinephrine. I heard a nurse say “I’ve lost her peripheral pulse” then “I’ve lost her central pulse.” I can only assume that epi was given to me right away after that, as a nurse had it in hand. I have maybe 15 minutes ‘missing’, but clearly did not go without oxygen for very long, and had no lasting anoxic effects. (I later had a brain injury from untreated anaphylaxis, but that was a different circumstance). The biggest lasting effect was PTSD. It’s much better, but to this day, when I go to an ER, I have a dose of epinephrine on my person. Always.
This sounds horrifying, I'm sorry
Would a medical alert bracelet help? It seems like a way to communicate your condition to ER workers when you can't communicate.....I wish you good health
That doctor should for sure be sued. The nurse can't legally give the EPI if the doctor doesn't order it/tells her not to, and it sounds like the doctor just watched you suffer until passing out. That sounds horrific, I'm so sorry that happened to you
@@Travel_with_Gigi I tried. Couldn’t find a lawyer who would take it…
@@allasperans3984 Thanks.
I worked at the coroner’s office when this happened. There were some truly brilliant forensic specialists who worked on this case!
2:20 - Chapter 1 - The death of Kathy Augustine
3:25 - Mid roll ads
5:25 - Back to the video
9:30 - Chapter 2 - Kathy augustine, politician, wife, mother
13:20 - Chapter 3 - The husbands of kathy augustine
23:30 - Chapter 4 - The politician & the ER Nurse
31:55 - Chapter 5 - Don't tell other people about your crimes
39:00 - Chapter 6 - Don't go on TV
42:55 - Chapter 7 - Hide the evidence of your crimes
50:30 - Chapter 8 - Don't involve other people in your crimes
52:40 - Chapter 9 - Keep your story straight
1:00:05 - Chapter 10 - If you want to get away with murder, being a billionaire is helpful
1:05:45 - Dismembered appendices
PS: Boi, when B Cosby is gonna get his installment...things are gonna be spicy !!!
And btw; "the perfect murder"; this is giving me "Leopold & Loeb" vibes...
I can tell you…it’s in the works!
You're the best!!!
'Mid- roll' the irony of it being at the beginning
@@MGscribe Pound that cake boi !
You're the real hero ❤
Omg, I must of been living under a rock, because this is my first time ever seeing a video from The Casual Criminalist & Simon. I'm a huge TC watcher & never hearing of this channel before, blows my mind.🤯 I'm so thankful it came up on my recommended today.
I know TC cases are not something to laugh at. Which I wasn't laughing at the case itself. But I personally don't mind some comedy added throughout the video. It breaks up the tension. I can honestly say, I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. 😂😂Simon's sense of humor is honestly impeccable. While he almost seems so well mannered & proper in one moment, then the next he says something just....well hysterically not so proper! Lol! I absolutely love it! Well done! I've definitely subscribed. Can't wait to binge the rest of the vids! 💯
I just want to put it out there, that if you're the first woman to do something, whether you like it or not you are representing us and setting an example. Instead, she showed that women are just as capable of being a controlling abusive spouse and a selfish corrupt politician as men can be. Then she cried after being rightfully impeached, what a humiliating representative. It does not justify her murder in the slightest, but we should expect better of our politicians. Just because you can doesn't mean you should and she should have let a better woman run.
That is common knowledge, and if not it should be. Everyone believing there is one better gender doesn't have their priorities straight. Women are as bad as men. But they are also as good as men.
@@アンドレーエフ貝I think nowadays it doesn’t matter so much, but back in the 1800’s and 1900’s I’d most certainly have wanted a man in any position of power within the government.
There’s one reason. War. For better or worse, in a time of wars and conscription, I’d want someone who served in a trench in charge - not someone whose patriotic duty was handing out white feathers calling children that didn’t go to fight cowards.
War is easy if the only risk to you is *maybe* having to work a factory. If you’ve been the foot soldier storming a beach, you’ll think twice about sending the next kid. You win wars with Admirals, not housewife’s.
studied genetic engineering. got super into anatomy and was able to work at a cadaver lab for a bit.
Simon's last statement, that you just walk up to a coworker and ask bizarre questions that would normally get you fired or questioned by the FBI was a daily occurrence there.
One of the first things I had to do was remove the lenses from some eyeballs. After retrieving one I said "wow eyes are a lot harder to cut than I expected". It just goes downhill from there tbh. such a weird yet amazing stint of my education.
I dissected cow eyeballs as a demonstration for my sixth grade science classes a few years ago, and I would agree with your observation. The scalpel was virtually useless, and I ended up using dissection scissors for almost all of it. Thank goodness I practiced once before I did it for the kids. 😁
@@VictoriaEMeredithHa me too. Took us absolutely forever to get into that eyeball, it flew away several times. I used to think eyes where super fragile but they're pretty tough. At least cows eyes, I haven't tried with mine...
In the end it was the three of us stabbing it maniacally. I forget how we eventually got it but we did remove the lens successfully. That class was wild... 30 kids with knives stabbing eyeballs and occasionally one flying off. But we had a great teacher, bio was one of my favourite subjects.
As a chemist weird questions were basically a daily occurrence. Our shadowrun games ended up with us unplugging the Echo before we got started because of all the weird questions it would overhear and we were concerned they’d call the police when we were looking up how we could make thermite or drugs with things we could find at Walgreens and not the super expensive stuff the game books said we needed.
Absolutely with you Mr W. I have long said I plan to die in my own bed, unrepentant at a great age, looking at least 20 years younger than my chronological age.I wish anyone who reads this the same too.
I think my grandad had a good one. He and my grandmother went to visit some friends after sitting there chatting with them for a while he fell asleep in the chair something he would do very regularly and never woke up he was probably there half hour dead before anyone realised so painless sudden and with friends in my mind ideal
I'd like that too, however, I wouldn't mind the idea of someone having an opportunity to save me. Dying in bed means I'll be dead for hours with no opportunity for any help. As a bachelor, dying in my sleep means it'll be the smell of my body that gets someone's attention.
I hope that as a biotechnologist and biologist with cell culture and gene editing focuses. Even if politicians make immortality treatments illegal for everyone on religious grounds even for people not of the same religion.i can make it myself for myself
That's pretty easy lol eat well, don't have kids, and workout/be active. And don't get in an accident lol
I used to work for a state and though it made no sense, the state Fire Commissioner, Insurance Commissioner and Industrial Loan Commissioner was also the Comptroller General. Yes, all of these were the same person and it was an elected position. In the 31 years there were 9 elections because I started 1.5 years before the election.
Please consider covering the guy you mentioned that killed his wife and assassinated the judge. sounds like a wild story to tell.
i still feel like a terrible person since i get so happy getting to listen to simon talk about such horrible things....but here we are.....again....my heart is happy.
"Do you want to be kept alive in this coma? Think about playing tennis if yes, think about doing maths if no." fucking brilliant..
Still waiting on that casual criminalist Journal Whistler boy!
My mom is 70 and has been struggling with chronic illness for her entire life.
At this point, they can't even do surgeries on her because they're afraid she'll die on the table.
Chronic organ infections, heart and liver disease, edema, cognitive decline, can't move around very easily, always randomly falling asleep (which is why they had to take her license after she crossed the median 1 too many times)
She's dying slowly right before my eyes and she knows it. She's simultaneously terrified and also just way past ready to die.
It's fucking terrible.
I'm with Simon. Take me quick, preferably in my sleep, after a long (but not *too* long) and happy life.
The blue sweater episodes are ALWAYS the best!
Thanks for the commited and great content simon! And wish you and the team all the best on your mental health.
I don't normally comment in the middle of a Simon video, but yea. My Mom had been having minor strokes for about 5 years and never said anything to anyone. She just thought she was getting old and didn't understand what was going on for short periods. Then she has a big stroke. People getting older need to be able to recognize the signs so they can ask for help. --- back to the the show :)
Recognizing a stroke is very hard. My mom was on chemo when she had hers first stroke. But since she was also a former alcoholic going through a very difficult period of her life, well, she just looked drunk to me. It took me at least a day to realize what was going on.
this, but also strokes and such can be harder to recognise with women because they present somewhat differently and we are often more familiar with the symptoms in men :(
Yes! Strokes and heart attack are also often missed in women as the tell tale signs differ from those accepted and known for men. So informative pushes especially of vulnerable populations is so important.
Often younger women have strokes and they go unnoticed. My great grandma had a fatal stroke at 48, my grandma had one in her mid 60s, so I’m genetically predisposed to them, I also have migraines with auras which put me at high risk.
When I had to take birth control with estrogen for a short time, they put me on the lowest dose but it didn’t work the way it was supposed to (was supposed to fix something else wasn’t being used for BC). They upped my dose and I had to be monitored every hour by my boyfriend to ensure I wasn’t having a stroke that would go unnoticed.
I also can’t go to chiropractors or smoke because both would 100x my chance for a stroke. Sometimes I do wonder when I have a brain fart or feel some tingling on my cheek if that’s a stroke but it would be so minor the docs couldn’t tell.
Please put it in writing Simon and anyone else reading this. Don't leave the choice to your loved ones. Even when we can rationalize that our loved one is gone it's hard to take that final act. Put it in writing. Tell your doctor, tell your friends, tell your loved ones. Make it CLEAR so should the time ever come the right actions are taken. Take it from someone who faced this exact situation.
Everyone wants to pass peacefully in their sleep yet refuse to give our loved ones such dignity and force full rescue measures. I get so angry when a patient chose DNR, then the family revokes it first chance they can
@@thatfuzzypotato1877family can revoke a DNR???
A living will is the way to go. Also appoint a health care power of attorney but say that they can’t override your written wishes. I had this in place since I was a legal adult. Working as a nurse I have seen too many family fights about what “mom” or what “dad” would want. Don’t wait until you need it because then it is obviously too late. Don’t leave your family to have to make this choice for you. Most doctor’s offices can give you the form to fill out (in the USA, not sure about other countries).
Simon,
You want to be put in a PET scan for the highlighted brain area with different colors.
(These are show what areas are active when certain stimulus are introduced, assuming the brain is capable of interpreting that stimulus.)
It is worth noting that these scans are much more rare than MRI machines. (Assume that they are more expensive and that the scan takes much longer to do and read.) I am mostly aware of them as a research tool rather than a diagnostic one.
The basic lines on a piece of paper or a screen, that's what an EEG displays. (These are used to show brain activity during sleep, for example, and in epilepsy diagnosis & treatment.)
There's also FMRIs that are a middle ground between the two.
On your last comment speaking as a biochemistry student you are absolutely correct we get up to some stuff. I spent an afternoon on a lab bench being hit with a tendon hammer and electrocuted for lab work.
Oh Simon, so glad to find you again! You are both my favorite and my daughter’s. When she moved out last summer all her RUclips channels we watched disappeared with her. What fate that you show up for the first time ever in my feed. Good to see you old friend❤️
Simon, my grandmother is going through exactly what you’re talking about with the strokes. Feel for you buddy.
Stroke detection and rehabilitation has come a long way. In 1980 my grandfather was literally on his way home from a check up when a massive stroke occurred. His doctor told him he was just getting old and to go home and take it easy. If only the doctor had prescribed a baby aspirin he might avoided it at least that time around but that little trick wasn't well known until a few years later along with the importance of physical therapy immediately following a stroke.
Its the first episode of the Casual Criminalist I've watched. Indeed it is much less formal than any of the other channels that Simon hosts. It could even be called "Casual." I realise that is what I like about it. Simon is much more engaging, revealing what a funny conversationalist he probably is. I'll be watching more, because I'm a bit of a true crime fan.
Simon, may I suggest the crazy story on the Green River Killer Gary Ridgeway? He escaped police custody for over 20 years and murdered dozens of people. I actually met the lawyer who defended him in court twice in college. The lawyer passed away a few years back from cancer. I recall the 2nd time meeting him that he was bald, and didn't know it was because he was fighting cancer till I read about his death in the newspaper. RIP
Didn't he do that one?
Most definitely. surprised has been covered
Yes, please!
I think he did it?
I think he's done this one
Simon, fyi, you actually talked me into buying Vessis. I must admit, they are as great as you claim.
I did also, and I love them. I have actually trying to find a decent pair of shoes. Super comfy!
Thank you two for the comments. I've been wondering if they were worth buying.
Would love to see a story on the Olive family. 1975ish in Marin Co, California. As I knew both parties involved, I'd love to see a deep dive. I (and many of my friends) believed the police had it backwards. She was the instigator and he was the follower. They still have the belief back in the day that a woman couldn't be that brutal. Anyway, there was a book written called Bad Blood which would be a good starting point. Hope you all look into it. The crazy part for me was a few days after the murders, we had a huge bonfire party without knowing this is where they burned the bodies. They wouldn't be found till later. Thanks for the very interesting videos.
As someone with a condition where I end up fully aware but unable to move or speak on a pretty regular basis, it sucks hugely. People pull a lot of shit when they think you can't hear them or can't fight back
How does Simon not know what a comptroller is when he literally just read it out a few minutes before?😂 I guess he wasn't kidding when he said that he retains almost nothing from the scripts. I just didn't expect it to be within a few minutes 😂
Loved this episode. Not very gruesome, full of detective work and science
Man you're hilarious "think about playing tennis if yes and think about maths if no" 🤣🤣🤣
Unless there is an open case and there is reason to believe the death is suspicious then an autopsy is optional. SO there was a big rush to get everything moving and with her death imminent they needed to be sure that the body would go to the coroner and not a funeral home.
he would have gotten away with it if he hadn't talked about it. they would have never had a reason to search his stuff and find the evidence to then know what to test her body for. her death would have remained a mystery because nothing came up on tests.
@@toxxicx Oh for sure. Never talk about your crimes! 🤣😂🤣😂
I was just casually listening while doing something else and suddenly heard my bosses name. Went back to listen to the description of the poison Dr Middleburg was talking about and I work with that! Also Dr Middleburg is a great guy he does a daily walk through of the lab
Please, please,,stop 🛑 with the shorts ,I get all excited when I'm notified that you've brought out a new one ,only to find something a minute or so long, 😢 love your stuff ❤
I completely agree the police and detectives went above and beyond in this case and that is amazing and sadly rare.
I really have enjoyed lately binging the older more lighthearted episodes…no pun intended. But the heists, the unannounced queen’s castle tour, helicopter jailbreaks….the whole run. Plus, Simon’s funny when he’s like “What?!”…corruption comprehension as an example 🤣 this should be a playlist much better on the mental health then some of the beyond sick ones. I forgot his name but that case scared me and apparently Simon he mentioned it in several episodes after.
I love your voice. As a crime documentary junkie love listening to your commentary about the criminal.
Locked in syndrome (LiS)
There are plenty of neurological diseases and illnesses out there that can cause this. If you ever find yourself diagnosed with something like this, be sure to have a care plan, especially end of care. More people suffer from this than people realise. Not sure about the coma thing, but LiS is definitely something to be aware of for you and your loved ones.
Suggestion: A very old school case. Sunny Von Bulow.
There were rumors about succocholine having caused several servicemembers to have been wrongly declared dead on the operating table in theater in Iraq and Afghanistan, way back when.
So, before my first deployment post-9/11, I had an allergy bracelet made saying that I was allergic to succocholine. I also made sure that my newfound "allergy" found its way into my medical records, so they wouldn't be able to use that stuff on me should I have to be put under the knife while we were there.
Fortunately, we never had to find out whether or not I really was allergic to it, but I was pretty sure then, and i still am sure now,, that I was most definitely allergic to being declared dead prematurely.
Clever! Sux is dangerous.
I got Vessi's for Christmas cause I was saving up after I saw you talking about them and they are AMAZING!
Do they breathe?
This is one of the best episodes ever. I really got into this story!
I think I may have to buy that notebook Simon has been saying he'll publish with his "rules" for criminals LOL
😂
Being a healthcare worker is exhausting, gut-wrenching, and difficult. However, it's beyond rewarding and eye-opening. Through sympathy, meaningful interactions, meeting people from all walks of life, and then being able to serve them in their time of need really balances things out. I've been so lucky to have 23 years in healthcare. There's nothing I would change.
"Commit your crimes and then shut the *** up" is not a sentence or a vibe I expected today but here we are.
When he speaks about being frozen it always reminds me of a short film I saw years back where he wakes up and says so you found a cure? And he is told oh no sorry, it's very rare anyone actually wakes up. The world is over populated as is and we just need spare parts. 🙀😸
I’ve actually had 12 strokes…one right after a horrible case of chicken pox that I got inside as well as outside, (finished therapy for that stroke and fell threw a plate glass window). Then had a growth in my brain and had 11 strokes before the tumor was pulled out…strokes can be very subtle….
It’s so weird that a murder investigation was ongoing while the victim was still alive.
In this case, a heartbeat doesn't mean it wasn't murder. She was braindead, with no chance of recovery.
Well they knew she might die at some point and time is of the essence when it comes to investigations
There’s another case where a woman testified for her own murder trial. Her boyfriend dumped gas on her and set her on fire. It took a really long time before she finally passed, but it was inevitable, she had burns to 90% of her body. Her name was Judy Malinowski.
She was brain dead, which is legally dead. Heartbeat and breathing does not constitute life in this situation. So yes, she was legally dead, therefore a murder investigation started
I remember a weird story from the early 90s where a woman was dating a doctor. She would get injections for migraines from him on a semi-regular basis even after they broke up.
One of those injections he also gave her HIV from a sample in the hospital and was charged and convicted of murder, despite her being alive and well for years after his conviction. Honestly don’t know what happened to her, but I assume she eventually succumbed.
Do you think you could do a video on the Long Island Serial Killer, AKA the Gilgo Beach Murders I believe
This is my favorite true crime channel; love Simon, Emma- what’s happened with Jen’s shoutouts 🥺?
I’ve noticed there’s been a lot of new editors lately. It’s probably difficult to shout out to all of them if you don’t know which will edit the story you cover.
Yay! A new long episode!! 🎉
Thank you for finally sorting out the sound level issues, It's appreciated.
Fantastic way to kick off my weekend, good show TangentBoi
At this point, it’s Whistler Boy or Tangent Boy 🫡
Simon- sending the pathology samples to the FBI wasn't just cuz she was a well known public figure. We had a patient on my unit who police suspected was poisoned, we drew so many blood samples from that patient. The labs were sent to the STAT lab, visitors were restricted and monitored when they were there... point of story: we were able to detect and treat the toxin, an acquaintance was arrested. That patient wasn't a public figure, hospital staff works closely with members of emergency services. Emergency service workers have a thing, we're all in this together... we help each other out when needed. Police, EMS, Firefighters, Nurses... we take care of each other.
Can confirm that in a medical lab it's really not weird to ask for a sample of coworkers' urine etc - I'm a med lab scientist and we used our own saliva samples to validate our method for saliva testing for covid.
Yeah, I work in a forensic tox lab....its pretty common place to ask for each others sample.
So many things about getting old scares the hell out of me. My nanny is 71 and the most active person I know, her goal is to visit 300 countries before she turns 80, she's already half way there 😅. But I love in fear that I will have to watch her fade away slowly. It scares me so much.
There are few positive ways to look at this, your grandmother is making the most of the rest of her life and getting old although scary implies that she had a long and somewhat fulfilling life. I lost my grandfather 2 years ago when he was 85 years old, I miss him dearly but I am happy that he enjoyed living even in his old age and loved spending time with his wife, 4 children and 5 grandchildren. It’s awesome that your grandmother is still in a position to enjoy life and you should try spending as much time as you can with her.
The perfect crime is jaywalking (not in Japan, they’ll charge you). Relatively low risk, usually no fines, everyone is already doing it, and it’s a crime lobbied for and named by car companies to avoid paying fines when pedestrians got killed by their cars. It’s fantastic! (Not actually advice)
Actual advice: please look both ways before crossing the street, and don’t proceed if there’re cars coming.
And if you are traveling to a county where they drive on the opposite side than where you live make sure you look! I almost got hit in Ireland when visiting from the US, it was scary how close I came to stepping into the path of a speeding truck 😳
This is one of the best written episodes! Keep up the good work.
Simon needs to come out with a shirt that reads "I came for the facts, I stayed for the tangents"
Living with a toxic person makes a toxic solution sadly, people should never underestimate how destructive a Karen can be to your soul
Still possibly explosive but better solution: put all that money towards surveillance equipment. Endure a little. Collect material. Then divorce. Threaten release= damage to her political career,if she messes with your life and career.
The fact that she wasn't willing to take care of her husband in his time of need but happily took his money when the poor man died a month later makes me so angry!!
My dad used to call my mum "she who must be obeyed" lol. From that British show Rumpole of the Bailey😂
Was it a comedy or what was it? I’m an American 😂
My grandfather did too. 😂
@@ardenalexa94 no definitely not a comedy. It was a QC or a barrister and the criminal trials he was involved in and a bit of his home life. There was like 6 or 7 seasons
@@kaylirodgers413 oh ok. Thanks for explaining that to me.
I remember my Dad laughing at that show. Thank you for giving back to me another happy memory of my late father, who died 3 weeks after a massive stroke 6 years ago. I still miss him every day 😢
You will never be brain dead Simon, they will specify a new condition just for you: big-brain dead. *runs
Elected Official here: It is absolutely, positively, 100% against the rules to use City or State resources on your campaign. That's so basic and totally inexcusable. If it's "common" in NV, there needs to be a major investigation.
People who commit the prefect murder never get caught. I am sure there are thousands of them.
Perfect murder I think implies also that the person who is killed had is coming/deserved or had to die. It isn’t a perfect murder if you go out of your way to victimize some random person.
Well. He broke all the casual criminalist rules😂
I love how we're going over possible sentences and I'm over here thinking "OR you could've just accepted that she didn't want a divorce during the campaigns, moved out, and not been in the picture until she signed the paperwork" too easy or am I wrong here?
It sounds like that's what he was trying to do. At one point he told a co-worker he'd been saving money in a secret account to be able to get an apartment and move out -- but she'd found out because, in his words, she was a controlling stalker.
She had also made a reputation for threatening the jobs of the nurses/receptionists at the hospital Chazz worked at if they didn't put him on the phone when she called.
If we accept the story that Kathy refused to divorce Chazz because it wouldn't look good for her political career, and that she had somehow found out that he was trying to set up things to move out on his own, it's possible that Chazz believed that she would follow through on her threats to make sure he would be fired from his job if he left her. There was a fairly obvious imbalanced power dynamic between the two, particularly with her being considered seriously for a major position in the U.S. government, so it's not impossible that she could have pulled some favors.
Ultimately, it doesn't justify murder and the way that he killed her is particularly horrifying to me. I do think, though, that it shows why Chazz may have felt like he couldn't just push forward with the divorce despite her objections.
In my opinion he would've gotten away with it if he didn't tell his coworker
Australian request: The disappearance of Juanita Nielsen. In the 1970’s she was a journalist, conservation activist, model, and heiress who was most likely murdered for her activism against construction companies trying to rip down and redevelop parts of Sydney. She disappeared from the Carousel Club in Kings Cross in 1975 after going there for a meeting. The crime remains unsolved. There was a lot of questionable activity with organised crime and police corruption that may have contributed to the crime never being solved. This would be a good one for the writer who covered the massive police corruption in East Coast Australia in a previous video (sorry, I can’t remember which one).
Sorry to keep reposting requests. I never know if they’ve been seen or not. I heard David used to send forms for people to submit requests, but never actually saw one myself.
Now I wish that I hadn't heard about the seizure thing. I have been intubated several times. I knew that the drugs paralyze all of the muscles (including the diaphragm) but I never thought about what my body would be doing. Good thing they give amnesiac drugs too
When they knock you out your body doesn’t end up convulsing because of the muscle relaxers - at least I believe that’s the case.
You should cover the case of mike debardeleben active from the late 60s to the early 2000s
Enjoy your YT immensely for CC. I've checked all of your videos since your first. Haven't seen one on the Green River murders outside of Seattle, WA. You plan on doing it. If you do, might have to do a two parter .
This death is nasty. I think it's worse for a lot of people because of hospital angst about botched drugs.
I actually did get Vessi’s and they are very good shoes. They are that water proof. Always nice when a sponsored product is actually greatly great.
It's a state comptroller. They do essentially the same thing Treasury secretary does for a state.
Yeah I assumed he meant comptroller and had to double check to make sure "State controller" wasn't some position I didn't know about 😂.
Quite a fine list of The Casual Criminalists Handbook there! Quite a tale. Cheers!
Even with all the screw ups this guy did it was still very lucky they got the critical evidence and even looked for it at all before it actually was gone forever. Makes me wonder how many times this type of murder might have been done by someone who got away with it more than anything.
Gosh! I have the whole soundtrack of _Chicago, the musical_ in my head 😂
I'm surprised that it wasn't mentioned that Kathy' daughter, Dallas, was involved in a murder - suicide with her own wife just a few years after Kathy's murder. There was a lot of domestic abuse in the relationship and Dallas ended up killing her wife before killing herself. Their bodies weren't found for a few days until a wellness check was performed. Very sad series of events for this family...
I love how Emma was saying that Higgs had the recipe for the perfect murder and Simon was saying “this guy is an idiot” for most of the video.
I think a good episode for this show would be on the Silk Road murder for hire? I think that'd be fun for Simon to read through
I don't know if this comment is read, perhaps I only need it off my chest, so it doesn't matter, but still here it is.
Just to make the most important thing clear first hand, no matter that I feel very empty after this episode, nice work, I love your stuff. Your presentation, your writers and editors, everything is brilliant and so far I didn't come across even one episode I didn't like (also from Decoding the Unknown).
Wasn't it for being murdered, after this episode I feel hanging with her (Kathy Augustine) having (nearly) committed the perfect murder, and it's been overlooked. That would have been if he have gotten the death penalty, or she completely succeeded if he doesn't properly recovery from feeling dead inside.
What I mean is ... after this episode I cannot tell if he was a bad person or not (before getting into a relationship with her). Even if his motivations weren't ok for getting into a relationship with her, she seems to be a way bigger monster, even after he murdered her in a very horrific way.
She was a powerful woman. She took his soul and crushed it without resentment or hesitation. (Someone joking about "could somebody please kill my wife" and reacting to a proposition of divorce with "I don't have a way out" might have way out, but clearly isn't seeing that (anymore). And in my regards that tells a complete own story how horrific her abuse must have been).
She tried and established a whole lot control over his life. She managed to bully him out of his work place (she wasn't part of). Nobody around him (seemingly) cared that his wife threatened a whole lot people to get (obviously, why would a s.o. demand the pay checks of their partners?) more power over him.
This is one of the most horrific toxic relationships I ever heard of (or had to witness). He might not have been a nice person, but when talking about him not having the right to bring her to such an horrific death, you also have to say that she hadn't had the right to humiliate, control and abuse him in such a horrific demeanour.
I've got the feeling she murdered him first (mentally) and with that she enabled him to murder her. The last part where she found out about him being ready to leave and humiliate him and show him that he has no way out ... well, if I imagine someone being trapped seeing no way out, he was not the first or last person to have resorted to extreme measurements. And independently how horrific the method was I am not sure that it was intended as torture. From his perspective it might seem to be the best possibility to do it with the highest chance of not being caught and more importantly bringing it to an end.
I started to become really startled throughout the episode, when he tried to break her try of controlling him by saying "We are fucking talking about it when I get home" and your reaction was "That is no way to talk to anybody." I agree in the broadest way of thinking about that, but not in her case, or anyone's who's goal is to establish, enforce or strengthen control over someone else. Given what I feel what might have been her way of dealing with him, I think he was nearly gentlemen like. I think Karen's should karen about being compared to such a horrible person, and they would be in the right, which is so ironic.
I feel empty after this episode, not because of him, but because of her. I am not sure if something slipped while watching the episode, but in my head the title is "Kathy Augustine - The woman who got closest to the perfect murder".
I kinda already hit the in and out of hospitals and slowly declining bit… and I’m born the same year as you Simon! Lol
Not suggesting I’m dying, yet, but I’m definitely not gonna be running and dying in my sleep in my 90s…
In the US it's comptroller's job: managing an institutions' financial reporting and accounting tasks.
Usually employed by a public agency/office. Comptrollers assure the security and proper use of funds, oversee the controller's office, and manage all accounting and budgeting activity.
Simon is 35 years OLD, he no longer stands up holding the script for Brain Braze. I miss his frenetic arm waving, pacing and talking to furniture.
Perfect to listen to while doing the ironing. Thanks Fact Boy and Crew.
35:10 succinylcholine. Is a strong medication that paralizes skeletal muscles. They use it for rapid sequence induction( quickly putting someone to sleep and intubating them). Its not commonly tested for as cause of death.
We call it suxamethonium here, if anyone outside the US was confused. But I believe he explain all the rest of the above in detail in the video.
@@--enyo-- yeahhhh i posted that before he explained. Lol
Dr. Carl Coppolino was convicted of killing his wife, in 1967, with the drug. He was suspected of killing his mistress's husband with it in 1966. It may have been used as a murder weapon before this but this case was one of the first high-profile cases. Never piss off an anesthesiologist.