Evoto - Nice App - Whacked Pricing (In My Opinion)
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- Evoto is another non-destructive photo editor on the market. In this video, I discuss and demo some of its features and then explain Evoto's pricing.
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Evoto is another non-destructive photo editor on the market. In this video, I discuss and demo some of its features and then explain Evoto's pricing.
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Hi, dear valued customer.First of all, thank you for your suggestions and supporting on Evoto.☺
Evoto uses the most cutting-edge artificial intelligence technology, hundreds of outstanding algorithm engineers after more than 10 years of technology precipitation, so that you can use 10 times the speed and excellent quality to process the image, so that you are liberated from tedious and repetitive work, to create more possibilities.
Of course, thanks for your crucial feedback and will carefully evaluate them to bring you a better retouching experience.
Finally, thank you again sincere friends!💓
The pricing I'm seeing currently shows just under $0.07US per exported image as their most expensive option. At that price, if you edited and exported 700 images (say like, a big wedding package or similar and you could batch edit a lot of it) for $49, it doesn't sound terribly priced to me.
I do believe that the pricing is $83.99 for 1200 images per export
LOL..... I emailed you. I am not an employee. :) Thanks for taking a look. I agree ...the pricing is whack.
You should review it again. They keep adding features (including stray-hair removal, clothing de-wrinkler etc) and I think it's hands down the best portrait editing software around. Sure, the pricing model isn't my favorite but if you factor in time saved and overall results, I think it's so very worth it.
The bigger problem in my opinion is the upload your pictures on to their servers and thats a big no go
I downloaded Evoto about week or so ago and enjoyed the features enormously. A bit of Lightroom and parts of Photoshop rolled into one app. Then I saw their prices......
Nope. A wedding photographer would be bankrupt!
exactly!
If you deliver 500 images or so per wedding, the cost to edit using Evoto would be $30. If that amount is going to bankrupt you, you may want to raise your rates. That being said, I don't think that wedding photographers are their primary target. The tools are more geared towards close-up portraits (i.e. headshots and fashion) so perhaps only using for bridal and couples portraits instead of every single image from a wedding...
I totally agree with you because after I exported my five free edited photos, they sent me the pricing for exporting photos and I was like nope not happening today. It was priced at $83.99 for 1200 exported photos.
Thanks for very well done presentation. I downloaded Evoto, purchased 1200 credits and used the software on a headshot session I just did for a client but as much as this seems like a wonderful app, it also reduces the quality of my original photo/headshots. I'm very disappointed because the Evoto software doesn't appear to offer a high res professional look. For example I adjusted a person's skin, removed bags/wrinkles, freckles and stray hair but major parts of the photo, like the ears, person's clothes and my gray backdrop have become very grainy/fuzzy. If I could post a sample of my experience here, I would.
Oh, it works for me, I used to paid a retoucher to edit photos, $5 dollars per photo until I see this, I used to send my raw files to a retoucher and have them edit for me. Just for headshots though. Anything g more creative I would do myself, but it just took a lot of time. It’s saving me a ton of time and I’m able to offer more edits to clients without paying for a retoucher which is great!
Thanks for your support and comments on Evoto, if you have any questions during use, please feel free to contact me!🥰
@@EvotoAIdoes your program send my pictures on to your servers if I'm editing or exporting them?
What an odd business model - they are incentivizing their users to use it less.
I was thinking the same thing...odd indeed
100% agreed on pricing. Just give me a standard subscription. I hate this credit style pricing on pretty much anything.
For a professional portrait artist, this is game changing. If I send off 20-30+ images to a retoucher, it will take anywhere from 24 hrs to 3-5 days to get them back and it will likely cost $3-10 each. Weddings could take up to a month and easily cost in excess of 10% of the revenue for the wedding. To be able to edit an entire session or even a wedding in that amount of time for no more than about $.07 per image is very reasonable and cost effective. I think this will be an amazing tool, and if a photographer is truly a professional and has a legit, sustainable business model, they can work this into their cost of doing business and raise pricing to cover it - using faster turnaround as a leg up on the competition. Just my 2 cents. :)
FYI: Your client images are being sent over to a server you have no control over for image processing and possibly AI training as well.
I can see your point and agree with you about the pricing as it relates to batch editing standard photos. You can do the same this does using Lightroom or Capture One. However, for me, this pricing is pretty good for my use case, which would be on portraits and people shots, where I want to do quick, broad strokes retouching. It's insanely powerful in that department. That alone justifies the price for me.
The retouching features look like they do a lot more than Luminar AI and Neo (I use and like them both) but I agree that the credit system is lame. What I really don't like is that since it's cloud-based, you have to give it permissions around any security software, malware and possibly your VPN could be an issue. Some features require you to allow for "content analysis" for product improvement. All the while, the program is constantly monitoring your computer's activity for the use of credits. No, thank you.
This app, made me remember of Luminar Ai kind of app! Thanks Anthony!
Another problem with the model is say I take a photo the person doesn’t like it they want me to re-edit it, so what I have to pay another credit to re-export it again
It costs 6¢ to re-edit. If that is your concern, then maybe you should charge an extra quarter your shoot to cover these editing costs
Yeah, I can probably absorb six cents but bro that isn’t the point, I just really personally, my opinion only, just don’t like that pricing model simple as that. The good news is that some other software is coming out that you can actually just pay one fee for. But anyway, if ecotourism is actually using it’s communication with online servers so it’s basically like having a desktop version of Imagen AI, then I guess it makes sense, but if it’s software that just solely runs on your desktop, I wish they would just have a flat rate and every time they do a major update just charge me an upgrade fee if I want it.
Yes you most certainly are going to pay to re-edit that same photo to be exported again.
You are right. Pricing is whacked. Cash grab subscription at its worst.
Great review. But I won't even get their free trial version, the pricing plan a real turn off.
That pricing is insane!
After watching this, I'm not even going to give it a try.
nor me, by their standards the Adobe photo subscription is almost a giveaway.
I tried it, doesn’t add much you don’t get in say Luminar Neo, but with less control. And less capability on other image types besides portraits.
And the pricing is silly…
Interesting program, the sky replacement tool is very powerful as you pointed out considering it will put a reflection in the water. I know there are other ways to put the reflection in the water, this however seem so easy to use. I prefer to do most outdoor/landscape photography and this would be a worthwhile addition to my editing. I agree the pricing is strange, wonder what contitues exporting, my desk top, to a printer, mine or lab, for a photo book, etc? Wonder if it works with all file formats, raw, jpeg, tiff, etc?
Hi,Evoto supports importing raw, png, jpg, tiff formats😊
I agree. Silly subscription. On a recent trip I shot over 4000 pics. They super crazy!
Great video. The app is just okay compared to others on the market. But yeah, the pricing is absolutely a deal-killer. The problem is companies who use a credit-subscription hybrid are just plain greedy, in my opinion. I pass on anything like this. And I spent enough quarters in my youth on arcade video games to be over it all :)
I don’t get people like you, you wouldn’t know a good deal if it hit you in the face, you need to look again at the Non-subscription pricing model and like that one comment above the cost isn’t whacked and I don’t see anything like it on the market
I definitely don't like a subscription model for pricing but in this case, I think your analysis is a little bit flawed. There's no question that if you're using this product on all your photos that the pricing just is totally out of whack. But I don't think most people would perform this level of retouching on all their say, vacation photos. Or, suppose you're a headshot photographer. It's very unlikely that you'd be shooting 100 portraits a month. I think this product is very much aimed at professionals like that which explains their pricing strategy. Frankly I liked all your photos in their original form and don't care for all the retouching this product is capable of automating. If all keep using these AI image processors all our photos will start looking the same.
Who needs that?
Impressive App. I think for now, I'll hold on to my money.
Thanks!
Why would we want to distort our images to such an extent that they no longer reflect the subject. There is a purity and authenticity about using our camera and composition skills to capture the image in camera. We know that Apps can allow us to to use Raw to correct exposure and other artefacts caused by the limitations of the camera/lens. I do not understand why we would want to pretend it was a cloudy day when it wasn’t or alter the shape of our model’s face to be something that it isn’t. I do not want my photography to become a digital manipulation of reality. As for the pricing, they clearly are not photographers or interested in photography.
I really like this photo editing app, and obviously, it's very powerful software! But the price of this software is not friendly.... Btw, I appreciate your voice more than this app.
I was thinking about getting it but now now! Greed is one of the seven deadly sins!
Nice but that pricing is something!
Does this program/company take a copy of your content online while editing it?
That’s an amazing question. I’d love an answer to that question also.
I know imagine if every time you saved Adobe Photoshop charged you a nickel
Seems strange that with all the features, they didn't include the ability to change eye color?
You can do that, actually...
The last wedding I shot was 3,000 photos ... That is one wedding so the pricing for me is not good
seems to be only for studio portraits really. and exporting only about 20 photos per session or something like that
Pricing is a scam avoid these companies that don't let you just buy the software.
Weard pricing, other than that It seems to have more features than Luminar Neo.
No way I'd take that subscription "offer"
Not for Im afraid. I can shoot 1200 images in a day and couldn't afford to export that many on these peoples pricing plan, but what happens to a photo if you do edits to it, but dont export it and move on to the next photo, what happenned to the first photo, does it just get lost in the ether??? I`ll just stick with the Adobe Photography plan thanks very much and when I get tired of paying Adobe I`ll just buy a copy of Affinity Photo for a one off price of £49. Thanks but not for me Mr Morganti.
I wrote them and told them their prices are trash
Maybe they'll see all these comments here and rethink their pricing?
Background changer is really important to me, and theirs is ok, but not good enough for AI, and the cost is prohibitive. Way too much
Yeah, the features are knife and looks like it could save some time but yeah the pricing model is completely whack and is 100% why I would never actually use this app I mean I shoot vans things like that all the time and those can range anywhere from 200 to thousands of delivered photos… so to use this app yeah would be bankruptiing. They just need to come out with her fixed price and then if you want to upgrade a year later or whatever pay an upgrade fee with unlimited exports.
hi
That was 117 per month ....
Looks like they want a quick return on their development. Makes you question motive. I would stick to Lightroom and Photoshop.
I like it good edit with but the pricing do not make it worth it.
Evoto no longer has monthly plans. It's simply pay as you go by pre-paying for a select number of credits. A single credit is attached to an image once you export the image. You can then export that same image as many times as you like on that single credit. The highest price per credit is like .07 cents. This is way better than the monthly you show in the video for sure. They pivoted fast and I think I understand why - no one wants a monthly charge. The world of AI is pay as you go.
Credits expire after 1 year so all they did was change to annual plans only which is worse for the people that want to split the cost up instead of all upfront.
The world of photo AI software is perpetual license instead of pay as you go. Retouch4Me, Portrait Pro, etc. have all been perpetual that I've seen. No subscription or archaic credit system. It's like back in the day paying for text messages.
Wow this is crazy expensive. Not for me :-)
Pricing is prohibitive, particularly when I'm delivering large galleries to customers from which they make their final choices. What happens to unused credits at the end of the year? Are they lost? Surely, if you've purchased credits, they should not expire... They will have to restructure their pricing model to suit the activities of professionals better before I will entertain looking further into this software. It won't be long before a competitor launches similar software with a better pricing structure and then Evoto will pay a very high price for this approach.
pricing is too much high
Very expensive 😭😭😭
I don't care if this app kisses me and fixes me dinner; that is TOO DAMNED EXPENSIVE! ANY OF THIR OPTIONS! Espeically compared to Photoshop and Adobe Lightroom.
Yes I like how it works, but the price is not right. I can use my money better!!
I will never use this product with this pricing. Dead on arrival for me
Pricing put me off buying.,
Uh, I don't think so, Evoto. Try again.
Yea no! This is the subscription model at its worst. Nothing I can't get elsewhere.
Pricing is too high.
The app does have some nice features, but that is the most ridiculous pricing scheme I have ever seen!
I wish you had mentioned the pricing first. It would have saved me from watching the rest of this video. 😂
I think we're getting to the stage of software developers doing a cash grab because AI is going to make them obsolete. Soon you'll be able to say, "Make me a program like Lightroom". Bam, there's your program. Crazy how fast it's happening.
Pricing is ridiculous!
Don’t know why you think .45 is a high price, think you could do what this app does. It’s great there is no dam subscription, so tired of that, here they let you have full use of the program and only charge such a low fee for their great program.
"Whacked" is how mobsters say murdering someone. The street term for crazy is WACK. Not Whack. Not Whacked. Wack.
Carry on.
If you don't buy this program, pricing should drop
Stick with Portrait Pro, Luminar and Photoshop.
Great app, terrible pricing
Uh, no. Not with this ridiculous pricing model.
The most ridiculous pricing scheme I have ever seen . Not for me !
That’s whack 😂!!
To expensive for my wallet.
Horrible pricing!!
Your weird
Not just the pricing, looks to me like a BS app… please don’t bother doing anymore videos, this is not ready for prime time