Love the 2 of you together! I was in the WOF under Kenneth Copeland for decades until God rescued me a few years ago. At his church EMIC, we confessed “I am” phrases (mantras) at the beginning of every service. In fact, they were the same mantras Bethel confesses as well. Then…Kenneth’s good friend Charles Capps (passed) had 2 mini books out, “God’s Creative Power For Healing” and “God’s Creative Power For Finances”. These little books were filled with healing and financial Scriptures that we would insert ourself into and confess daily. Then…Charles’ daughter Annette Capps wrote a mini book called “Quantum Faith” that used quantum physics to teach us how to “manifest” what we desired to have. It was about our belief system. I had all 3 of these mini books and they were [unfortunately] a replacement for my Bible. I’ve repented!!! Now I see where WOF is New Thought through and through! God bless you both for this video exposing WOF!!!
Thank you for this brilliant interview; I found myself thinking back to all the times I unwittingly employed these “self-help” “affirmation” techniques. As pointed out-there is a difference between telling yourself-“hey you can do this” and telling yourself-“this mansion is mine”
I love both of you ladies. I’m am learning so much! I am still shocked how much New Thought I was indoctrinated in 😔 I bought a hard copy and kindle copy of Melissa’s book. Praying for both of your ministries. 🙏
I love you and Melissa both!!! As an ex witch/medium/new ager myself I’m so happy to see you both together talking about this! Praise God and thank you so much!
This was just the best conversation about New Thought! I had been deceived by it for many years and now know people who are still deceived and will fight you tooth and nail to continue in their belief. Thank you both for putting this out there. Also, can't wait to get the book!
@@Expsychicsaved Can you imagine having both Dawn Hill & Melissa in ONE long episode *together*?! How many religious issues can we debunk in one sitting, lol?🤔 Love you my Sister in Christ!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I actually first saw Melissa on Alisa Childers channel. I have come out of so many non Biblical ideas. I praise our Lord Jesus for these ladies telling us truth. I love New Age to New Heart as well. 😘🙏
So glad you are connecting with Melissa and thank you for having your comments on so we can chat with you and each other. It's questionable when people turn their comments off. I haven't dug into this difference yet myself so thank you so much for addressing this ladies.
This is why it is important that a church is clear about its primary and perhaps even secondary doctrines. Doctrine matters. It actually matters to preach what it claims to believe. That requires Christians to actually read and study their bibles consistently to compare what their pastor (or any other pastor teaches). It requires being an active participant in church as iron sharpens iron. Church is not a social club and party/concert. I agree we cannot get nasty or condemning about this stuff with people. And it doesn’t hurt to simply pose the question to someone if they think their practice or belief matches scripture and what God says? And ask the scriptural basis of their argument. It could plant a seed of thought. And of course we need to pray for Christian individuals and churches who practice new age and new thought to be convicted by the Holy Spirit about their error.
Melissa said the opposite of love is not hate, it's fear. Is that why those who are not "affirming" are considered "phobic"? We're not being what they consider to be loving so were in the "frequency of fear"?
I don't necessarily believe that. Melissa could be just taking the worldly view of what they think the opposite of love is. Scripture does equate the lack of love as hate or indifference. We are to love our neighbor as ourselves. To not love our neighbor doesn't mean we fear them, but that we either do them wrong or are apathetic.
Thanx Jenn and Melissa. Apreciate both your testimonies....by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ! "Long for truth" and Justin Peters also have insightful youtube videos on "New thought" that can be helpful. xxx
They take a bible verse and take it out of context. They don’t address the verses above and below. They cherry pick these verses and make it fit into their narrative. We shouldn’t add or remove his word.
im starting to think that everything i learned through my pshycology school, where all new thought. we where thought alot of new thought, new age and where surrounded by a community where everyone where prey's of it. everyone "building" eachother and told we need to lead our lives with our hearts. so harmfull!. I am so saddened and i feel used. this last two weeks have been thought provocative for me after learning about new thought, and looking back all these things that where said, thought and experienced I understand where not only hurtfull then, but it had such a long harmfull effect. i can clearly see and understand that the teacher where driven by the devil yet claiming to be in contact with god and practice magic, including sexual magic. what i dont understand is how her life and other people like this seem to have a great life with family, kids, house, economics... one of the things she used to say where that god where a conciousness. and in my mind it's like this. but i KNOW it's wrong. I just want to turn off my brain and restart it. it makes me so sad, i havent cried in probably 5-6 years but THIS makes me bawl my eyes out- this realisation. it was all a lie. i remember probably 3 years ago ish i told one of my friends i met in that space i started to doubt what we learned and the methods, and the entire way of self-help and living life by trying to work with our shadows and blablabla, and that i dont think this is what we're supposed to do. unfortunately I kept doing it and only this summer found back to this thought. and then and there I found a very different peace when i decided to let it go.
God is opening your eyes. Keep praying about it !! We are in the middle of a self help time in history, and the self can't help itself do anything good !
Interesting about the self help movement. I've never really understood why it's so popular to turn to self help because I'm super bad at helping myself do anything (thank you ADHD) but I can help anyone else who needs it. 😂😂😂 so self help never made sense to me as a concept.
those affirmations where someone looks in the mirror and says them - are really self worship - the speakers makes them out to be God, like the magician
- Nimrod ,was a mighty warrior before the LORD God ...,and as to meaning ,one of the offspring/Nephilim (Giants) ,of th os e sons of God (that left their first estate)
Loved this and I know this is completely off topic but I would love to know your thoughts on Christians celebrating Halloween? I’m completely against it and I get called a Pharisee for it 🤦🏻♀️, I don’t believe I am AT ALL, it’s a BIG conviction for me Blessings Jenn …. I’m from Staten Island , so we are not too far from each other … blessings to u as well Melissa 🙏🏼✝️⚔️🔥
This is very much like Christian science which I'm learning about through the book Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin. Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures by Mary Baker Eddy comes with a dictionary which redefines many binlical names and terms.. for example: Adam: A falsity A belief in "original sin," sickness, and death Evil A curse A belief in intelligent matter, finiteness, and mortality The opposite of Spirit and His creations An inverted image of Spirit The image and likeness of what God has not created
Love you girls and what you do..but this is all very confusing to me..can somebody please give a CLEAR definition of New Thought, Deconstruction and Progressive Christianity?..these videos make my head spin.
@@barbarapicheco1947 we weren’t talking about deconstruction! This is more about what new thought is and new age. I think Melissa gave us a great definition of what new thought is and the difference between that and new age. Your question is a good topic idea!!!
You are beautiful. Christian women are more beautiful without makeup or nail polish. Wearing them is distracting and can insight lust. To me it looks witchy or sorceressy. "What is Vanity? Is it not the worship of SELF? In a culture defined by Selfies, Beauty Masks, and anti-aging creams how can we become set-apart? The roots of this deceitful tree run deep and have their origins in the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. It is in the Garden where the mother of women was beguiled by The Dragon. Men have likewise been led astray by the Mask of Vanity and its pressure to conform to the image of the Beast." N.R.
I wish you would have this discussion with a word of faith person. There is a lot of generalizations, misrepresentation and non sequitas in this talk. Cessationism is also the other extreme of what you teach. So I have started to be skeptical to this claim "I am the one who knows scripture". Everyone needs to be humble here. No one has the corner on "knowing" scripture.
@@zandileshaba I would be more than happy to have that conversation! I do not claim to know all things. I can certainly tell when scripture is being twisted by reading Gods word in context.
- well had a friend tell me they recently had a dream Of Benny Hinn sitting on a throne puffing on a pipe and the universe came into Existence ,and just as kidding ,again
I was just thinking how cool it would be to have Melissa on New Age to New Heart, but this is super cool too!! ❤
This is super cool! It would still be great to have her on NA->NH.
@@kawaiimombear hi!!! We don’t interview ppl ok natnh!!!
So funny I just found her channel yesterday and here she is with Jenn! 😂
Scary, how easy it is to actually fall for new thought WITHIN the Christian mindset IF one’s NOT reading the Bible and really studying it.
So exciting to see two of my favorite sisters together!❤❤
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Awesome video, ladies! It's amazing how God delivers us out of deception. I'm so glad that He delivered me from these teachings. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Love the 2 of you together! I was in the WOF under Kenneth Copeland for decades until God rescued me a few years ago. At his church EMIC, we confessed “I am” phrases (mantras) at the beginning of every service. In fact, they were the same mantras Bethel confesses as well. Then…Kenneth’s good friend Charles Capps (passed) had 2 mini books out, “God’s Creative Power For Healing” and “God’s Creative Power For Finances”. These little books were filled with healing and financial Scriptures that we would insert ourself into and confess daily. Then…Charles’ daughter Annette Capps wrote a mini book called “Quantum Faith” that used quantum physics to teach us how to “manifest” what we desired to have. It was about our belief system. I had all 3 of these mini books and they were [unfortunately] a replacement for my Bible. I’ve repented!!! Now I see where WOF is New Thought through and through! God bless you both for this video exposing WOF!!!
Wow this is incredible so true. The truth has set me free
Thank you for this brilliant interview; I found myself thinking back to all the times I unwittingly employed these “self-help” “affirmation” techniques. As pointed out-there is a difference between telling yourself-“hey you can do this” and telling yourself-“this mansion is mine”
I love both of you ladies. I’m am learning so much! I am still shocked how much New Thought I was indoctrinated in 😔
I bought a hard copy and kindle copy of Melissa’s book.
Praying for both of your ministries. 🙏
I love you and Melissa both!!! As an ex witch/medium/new ager myself I’m so happy to see you both together talking about this! Praise God and thank you so much!
I read "The Secret"...the Secret is - there is no secret.
This was just the best conversation about New Thought! I had been deceived by it for many years and now know people who are still deceived and will fight you tooth and nail to continue in their belief. Thank you both for putting this out there. Also, can't wait to get the book!
This is so interesting. Thank you for having Melissa on.
@@aisonthisrock she’s awesome!
THIS IS SO GOOD!!! 🔥🎯
@@SophonsCookieCreations 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@Expsychicsaved Can you imagine having both Dawn Hill & Melissa in ONE long episode *together*?! How many religious issues can we debunk in one sitting, lol?🤔 Love you my Sister in Christ!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you for this wonderful and insightful conversation with Melissa 🎉
@@MichelleM-tt5rm thank you for watching !
This is so, so EXCELLENT!! 😃
Thank you so much!!! I needed this! I’m looking forward to her book coming out!
I actually first saw Melissa on Alisa Childers channel. I have come out of so many non Biblical ideas. I praise our Lord Jesus for these ladies telling us truth. I love New Age to New Heart as well. 😘🙏
Great interview! Thank you, Jenn and Melissa.
Already know we are in for a treat!!
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God bless this young lady i was looking 4 u thkz God i find u
Amen and Amen! I can't stand to even hear it!
God Bless both of you!
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So glad you are connecting with Melissa and thank you for having your comments on so we can chat with you and each other. It's questionable when people turn their comments off. I haven't dug into this difference yet myself so thank you so much for addressing this ladies.
Yay! Been waiting for this to happen 😍🥰
This is why it is important that a church is clear about its primary and perhaps even secondary doctrines. Doctrine matters. It actually matters to preach what it claims to believe. That requires Christians to actually read and study their bibles consistently to compare what their pastor (or any other pastor teaches). It requires being an active participant in church as iron sharpens iron. Church is not a social club and party/concert.
I agree we cannot get nasty or condemning about this stuff with people. And it doesn’t hurt to simply pose the question to someone if they think their practice or belief matches scripture and what God says? And ask the scriptural basis of their argument. It could plant a seed of thought.
And of course we need to pray for Christian individuals and churches who practice new age and new thought to be convicted by the Holy Spirit about their error.
@@yourchristianbookkeeper Amen
Melissa said the opposite of love is not hate, it's fear. Is that why those who are not "affirming" are considered "phobic"? We're not being what they consider to be loving so were in the "frequency of fear"?
I don't necessarily believe that. Melissa could be just taking the worldly view of what they think the opposite of love is.
Scripture does equate the lack of love as hate or indifference.
We are to love our neighbor as ourselves. To not love our neighbor doesn't mean we fear them, but that we either do them wrong or are apathetic.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this generous donation to the ministry!!!
@@Expsychicsaved : very welcome.
Great topic and presentation! I think I need to preorder her book.
Thank you for mentioning John Maxwell and Napoleon Hill. But I didn’t even consider Dale Carnegie! Wow! Gotta toss that book too.
wow. I love you both 🥰💕
This could offend alot of counselors. Demanding affirmations. That is thought of as being positive.
The "Me Me Religion!" Great video
It sounds to me like they renamed the genre. All those concepts and practices are the same. All that self-help stuff we used to call “New Age”.
- laws towards necromancy, were specifically towards the invocations & counsels towards what were once the Giants
Thanx Jenn and Melissa. Apreciate both your testimonies....by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ! "Long for truth" and Justin Peters also have insightful youtube videos on "New thought" that can be helpful. xxx
They take a bible verse and take it out of context. They don’t address the verses above and below. They cherry pick these verses and make it fit into their narrative. We shouldn’t add or remove his word.
- the song ORESTES/a Perfect Circle
im starting to think that everything i learned through my pshycology school, where all new thought. we where thought alot of new thought, new age and where surrounded by a community where everyone where prey's of it. everyone "building" eachother and told we need to lead our lives with our hearts. so harmfull!. I am so saddened and i feel used. this last two weeks have been thought provocative for me after learning about new thought, and looking back all these things that where said, thought and experienced I understand where not only hurtfull then, but it had such a long harmfull effect. i can clearly see and understand that the teacher where driven by the devil yet claiming to be in contact with god and practice magic, including sexual magic. what i dont understand is how her life and other people like this seem to have a great life with family, kids, house, economics... one of the things she used to say where that god where a conciousness. and in my mind it's like this. but i KNOW it's wrong. I just want to turn off my brain and restart it. it makes me so sad, i havent cried in probably 5-6 years but THIS makes me bawl my eyes out- this realisation. it was all a lie. i remember probably 3 years ago ish i told one of my friends i met in that space i started to doubt what we learned and the methods, and the entire way of self-help and living life by trying to work with our shadows and blablabla, and that i dont think this is what we're supposed to do. unfortunately I kept doing it and only this summer found back to this thought. and then and there I found a very different peace when i decided to let it go.
God is opening your eyes. Keep praying about it !! We are in the middle of a self help time in history, and the self can't help itself do anything good !
Agree, it sounds like repackaged Unity teachings. A deep concern that this, and New Age, is creeping into the church.
Interesting about the self help movement. I've never really understood why it's so popular to turn to self help because I'm super bad at helping myself do anything (thank you ADHD) but I can help anyone else who needs it. 😂😂😂 so self help never made sense to me as a concept.
those affirmations where someone looks in the mirror and says them - are really self worship - the speakers makes them out to be God, like the magician
I suffer from anxiety and I would love to know the names of some books with solid teaching that I could read to help.
@@michellegordon8627 I’m so sorry you struggle with that! Please check out Biblical counselor Mark Baker at hope for life online
- Nimrod ,was a mighty warrior before the LORD God ...,and as to meaning ,one of the offspring/Nephilim (Giants) ,of th os e sons of God (that left their first estate)
- as than so to the old glory and heavens then became when war broke out between the sons of God
Loved this and I know this is completely off topic but I would love to know your thoughts on Christians celebrating Halloween? I’m completely against it and I get called a Pharisee for it 🤦🏻♀️, I don’t believe I am AT ALL, it’s a BIG conviction for me
Blessings Jenn …. I’m from Staten Island , so we are not too far from each other … blessings to u as well Melissa 🙏🏼✝️⚔️🔥
Ask them how refusing to celebrate evil makes you a Pharisee. Also, ask them what a Pharisee is. They don't know
Here I am thinking sowing seeds is sharing the true gospel😂
lol!
This is very much like Christian science which I'm learning about through the book Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin.
Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures by Mary Baker Eddy comes with a dictionary which redefines many binlical names and terms.. for example:
Adam:
A falsity
A belief in "original sin," sickness, and death
Evil
A curse
A belief in intelligent matter, finiteness, and mortality
The opposite of Spirit and His creations
An inverted image of Spirit
The image and likeness of what God has not created
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Donald Trump said his pastor was Norman Vincent Peele when he was growing up.
- the Giants (the offspring of th os e sons of God) brought about violence within the earth ,and this is why they don't exist anymore
Love you girls and what you do..but this is all very confusing to me..can somebody please give a CLEAR definition of New Thought, Deconstruction and Progressive Christianity?..these videos make my head spin.
@@barbarapicheco1947 we weren’t talking about deconstruction! This is more about what new thought is and new age. I think Melissa gave us a great definition of what new thought is and the difference between that and new age. Your question is a good topic idea!!!
You are beautiful. Christian women are more beautiful without makeup or nail polish. Wearing them is distracting and can insight lust. To me it looks witchy or sorceressy. "What is Vanity? Is it not the worship of SELF? In a culture defined by Selfies, Beauty Masks, and anti-aging creams how can we become set-apart? The roots of this deceitful tree run deep and have their origins in the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. It is in the Garden where the mother of women was beguiled by The Dragon. Men have likewise been led astray by the Mask of Vanity and its pressure to conform to the image of the Beast." N.R.
I wish you would have this discussion with a word of faith person. There is a lot of generalizations, misrepresentation and non sequitas in this talk. Cessationism is also the other extreme of what you teach. So I have started to be skeptical to this claim "I am the one who knows scripture". Everyone needs to be humble here. No one has the corner on "knowing" scripture.
@@zandileshaba I would be more than happy to have that conversation! I do not claim to know all things. I can certainly tell when scripture is being twisted by reading Gods word in context.
- well had a friend tell me they recently had a dream Of Benny Hinn sitting on a throne puffing on a pipe and the universe came into Existence ,and just as kidding ,again