Why Australia Was A Mistake - Victoria 2

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024
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  • @iSorrowproductions
    @iSorrowproductions  6 лет назад +462

    Click here for more ruclips.net/video/ci_3Dys4EEY/видео.html

  • @LimaSierra-mx4rp
    @LimaSierra-mx4rp 6 лет назад +2740

    I'm not even kidding the ads I got are from Australia tourism wtf

  • @castsmith6783
    @castsmith6783 6 лет назад +819

    Should have for the *AUSTRALIA HUNGARIAN EMPIRE*

    • @TroopperFoFo
      @TroopperFoFo 6 лет назад +28

      Australia Honduras Empire.

    • @delta1o1
      @delta1o1 5 лет назад +9

      Austral-Hungarian Empire*

    • @helixx4678
      @helixx4678 4 года назад +6

      austrio-hondurian empire

    • @erikayazmin6227
      @erikayazmin6227 4 года назад

      @@delta1o1 ._. Haha you missed the joke

    • @mutedunknown2734
      @mutedunknown2734 3 года назад +11

      @@erikayazmin6227 no he didn't

  • @IronsidePitchBoi
    @IronsidePitchBoi 6 лет назад +955

    First two notes: F3 and C4
    Plink: G6 (x15)
    Distance: Minor Sixth down (under)

    • @joshuadarrow
      @joshuadarrow 6 лет назад +77

      You're doing god's work, son.

    • @DrewPhillips0528
      @DrewPhillips0528 6 лет назад +51

      The down under part was genius. You're the best commenter on youtube.

    • @sadge45
      @sadge45 6 лет назад +42

      When you have 1.4k subs by commenting on intro sounds

    • @YossariantheInsane
      @YossariantheInsane 6 лет назад +18

      Based and redpilled

    • @acronym0523
      @acronym0523 6 лет назад +13

      ISP already did that one in one of his videos...
      Still love the intro anyways

  • @cykablyat8836
    @cykablyat8836 6 лет назад +110

    "The Mormon's are growing!" - ISP, 2018

    • @dilbaum
      @dilbaum 5 лет назад +1

      hilarious

  • @sampatterson8986
    @sampatterson8986 6 лет назад +1704

    Chinese soft shelled turtle only at 350k

  • @lt3746
    @lt3746 6 лет назад +76

    “Ecuador. More people want to go to *Ecuador* than Australia. WHATS WRONG WITH AUSTRIALI-Fair enough.”

  • @GuakstickLabs
    @GuakstickLabs 6 лет назад +636

    I want an into where it's "Powered By iSorrowproductions" and introduce yourself as Ironside.

  • @OttO-ringface
    @OttO-ringface 6 лет назад +166

    You know you’ve done something sacrilegious when Australia becomes a great power

  • @HTPCYMC
    @HTPCYMC 6 лет назад +1473

    Why isn’t the intro upside down, iSorrow?

  • @harveybeach1895
    @harveybeach1895 6 лет назад +1118

    >Video isn’t upside down
    Fake

    • @vistagreat9994
      @vistagreat9994 6 лет назад +1

      @Skablingo ! ba dum ts

    • @korayacar1444
      @korayacar1444 6 лет назад +2

      it's not that hard to just flip the australian video you know

    • @chrispratt4155
      @chrispratt4155 5 лет назад +2

      Your video pic is kentai and I hate you.

    • @wilsthelimit
      @wilsthelimit 5 лет назад +1

      To be fair, if you put screen lock on it can be upside down

  • @АртемМежнев-щ6м
    @АртемМежнев-щ6м 6 лет назад +198

    6:17 new kaiserreich update looks legit

  • @raflymahendra
    @raflymahendra 6 лет назад +143

    Ironside to isp:most everyone skip the intro sponsorship
    Isp:say no more

    • @eqeqeqe9547
      @eqeqeqe9547 6 лет назад +2

      I mean its only 1 second long why would you skip anyways

    • @raflymahendra
      @raflymahendra 6 лет назад

      Ewan Von Hindenberg you know some people skip the intro and isp opening in main menu since they only want to see the gameplay

    • @sirwannabeguy4886
      @sirwannabeguy4886 6 лет назад +2

      But it is too short to skip

    • @deltoroperdedor3166
      @deltoroperdedor3166 5 лет назад

      @@raflymahendra not when the money go to financing *PERMANENT REVOLUTIONS*

  • @ServantOfSatania
    @ServantOfSatania 6 лет назад +161

    wtf -Denmark- Australia isn't even real -country-

    • @shards7992
      @shards7992 6 лет назад

      Satania!

    • @kayseek1248
      @kayseek1248 6 лет назад

      That one Bernie Sanders fan who's glad Trump won yep, the pay’s quite good.

  • @VideoGameCenter100
    @VideoGameCenter100 6 лет назад +270

    Imagine having a Victoria 2 RUclips channel

    • @mr.narwhal9034
      @mr.narwhal9034 6 лет назад +24

      From Memes 2 Dremes this meme was made by the HOI4 gang

    • @RalphACastilleja
      @RalphACastilleja 6 лет назад +3

      This meme was made by hoi 1 gang

    • @lolbit1232
      @lolbit1232 4 года назад +2

      *throws grenade in chat*”this act of terror was sponsored by the Victoria two gang”

    • @neku9837
      @neku9837 3 года назад +3

      @@lolbit1232 "Our cientists have discovered TERRORIST CELLS"

    • @lolbit1232
      @lolbit1232 3 года назад

      @@neku9837 lol

  • @kole1678
    @kole1678 6 лет назад +643

    So today, for the first time, my little toddler finally counted to ten. Everyone was celebrating, saying how proud they are in my kid, and then Ben Shapiro kicks open the door. "Oh you think it's impressive that they can count to ten? I can count to one million." and then proceeded, in my living room for the next two weeks, to count to one million. He then said "yep, another libtard destroyed" and then curbstomped my kid.

    • @codyvoidonneko6535
      @codyvoidonneko6535 6 лет назад +15

      Poor guy, im sorry that happened

    • @julatzschmulatz9607
      @julatzschmulatz9607 6 лет назад +79

      Yes I know. A similar thing happened to my dog. My girlfriend was proud of my dog because I teached him some tricks and then suddenly Ben Shapiro jumped through the window and fed him with conservative sausages till he died

    • @LD-oq9lx
      @LD-oq9lx 6 лет назад +17

      Ok, this is epic

    • @hotsportsopinions1362
      @hotsportsopinions1362 6 лет назад +25

      “Conservative sausage”🙃👌

    • @ddiamond6535
      @ddiamond6535 6 лет назад +57

      This story is absolutely ridiculous!
      If this just happened today, how could he have already been counting for two weeks? Checkmate, atheists!
      The rest of the story is totally believable, though.

  • @gamerito100
    @gamerito100 6 лет назад +205

    4:33 Scientists discovered terrorism xD

    • @deltoroperdedor3166
      @deltoroperdedor3166 5 лет назад +3

      This thread got topic sooner than I would have expected

    • @Oh_its_Ryan
      @Oh_its_Ryan 5 лет назад +25

      “HEY LOOK! I HAVE ISIS IN MY TEST TUBE!”

    • @gamerito100
      @gamerito100 4 года назад +9

      Ryan Salzgaber Now I understand why they say "terrorist cell" xD

    • @christopherwall2121
      @christopherwall2121 3 года назад

      "...oh. Uh-oh."

  • @princekyros
    @princekyros 6 лет назад +29

    10:35 you know that meme with the porno girl and like six or something black guys behind her? Germany's like that, but when you find out that she brutally murdered every single one of those guys seconds after the picture was taken.

    • @aneural
      @aneural 6 лет назад +4

      Not suprising, germany when they form the empire is insanely OP

  • @reidmcleod6630
    @reidmcleod6630 6 лет назад +391

    We aren’t mistakes...
    The Tasmanians yes, but not the mainland...
    Maybe the Queenslanders, but not the rest...
    Maybe the emu infested areas, but not the rest.

    • @superaids3849
      @superaids3849 6 лет назад +15

      Victorians were the biggest mistake

    • @ArgonYouTube
      @ArgonYouTube 6 лет назад +13

      South Australia is obviously the best state let's be honest.

    • @superaids3849
      @superaids3849 6 лет назад +1

      close second being western Australia and thats from a south aussie

    • @fristnamelastname5549
      @fristnamelastname5549 6 лет назад +5

      Now how come Australia dont have New Zealand yet? Why not send the Emus after them?
      Better yet sent the Emus after your enemys.

    • @raptorcell6633
      @raptorcell6633 6 лет назад +4

      Every part of Australia that isnt Victoria is a mistake.

  • @eliasanas6977
    @eliasanas6977 6 лет назад +142

    *Australian people:* Wait, why is this video the upside down mate?

    • @das3610
      @das3610 6 лет назад +1

      DestinyFucker9000 mAYYYTE

    • @9802mario
      @9802mario 6 лет назад +1

      legendary destinyfucker9000

    • @wingnoot048
      @wingnoot048 6 лет назад +2

      Am Australian, can confirm

    • @OldFossil
      @OldFossil 6 лет назад

      How could you tell? 😂

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 5 лет назад +1

      He's an #Arianator

  • @WillTheForests
    @WillTheForests 5 лет назад +21

    I missed when Isorrows played Vicky, he does such an excellent job editing and has really funny jokes.

  • @jackhensel8853
    @jackhensel8853 6 лет назад +79

    YOU’VE ALREADY USED THAT INTRO MAN C’MON

    • @ammaraissa8226
      @ammaraissa8226 6 лет назад +5

      It's good tho...

    • @_Nohan_
      @_Nohan_ 6 лет назад +4

      Bostonito Mussolini Yeah and it’s Australasia

  • @JacobH-zu1lb
    @JacobH-zu1lb 6 лет назад +86

    You didn't acquire Arizona! It's the Australia of America! It's hot and everything's trying to kill you there. It's practically the same thing!

    • @hhs_leviathan
      @hhs_leviathan 6 лет назад +32

      Why would Australia need another Australia...

    • @buttahXD
      @buttahXD 3 года назад +4

      @@Americana1453 False, we don't have a gigantic desert. And only about half of the critters want you dead.

    • @tictac-bl4so
      @tictac-bl4so 3 года назад +1

      @@Americana1453 australia isnt at all like florida

    • @Vessel767
      @Vessel767 3 года назад +1

      @@tictac-bl4so yeah, here in Florida the heat makes you never want to go outside ever again

    • @stigrabbid589
      @stigrabbid589 2 года назад

      @@Americana1453 Only things Florida and Straya have in common are Heat, crazy wildlife and Surfing, Florida is Humid, Australia is dry, Australia is basically Arizona but a big island continent thing.

  • @kendog381
    @kendog381 6 лет назад +44

    Another meme intro just what I needed

  • @ZechsMerquise73
    @ZechsMerquise73 5 лет назад +12

    "i'll probably never get bored of Victoria" Well, that didn't last long.

  • @kungfukitten6735
    @kungfukitten6735 6 лет назад +27

    How can something be a mistake if it doesn’t exist

    • @garygartenzwerg9870
      @garygartenzwerg9870 6 лет назад +2

      Kungfu Kitten It was a mistake to create the myth that Australia exists.

  • @lilgr1ng0
    @lilgr1ng0 6 лет назад +13

    I think the spider populations survived the Dardanelles of Gallipoli.

  • @erichraeder2989
    @erichraeder2989 6 лет назад +24

    You promised us Anti Tank only at 350ķ

  • @generalgrievous4254
    @generalgrievous4254 3 года назад +1

    Two years later and this is still probably my favorite Ironside intro.

  • @drahms8940
    @drahms8940 6 лет назад +35

    A R T I L L E R Y O N L Y 2 W H E N

    • @JacobH-zu1lb
      @JacobH-zu1lb 6 лет назад +4

      No, Artillery Only in Empire Total War. There's rockets and the Puckle Gun. The Ottomans have the 9 barreled Volley Gun, and the Marathas have the 64 pounders! Good luck not getting wrecked by some cavalry swarms. It'll be a let's fail.

    • @arthurnewton1125
      @arthurnewton1125 6 лет назад

      @@JacobH-zu1lb Artillery Only in Empire? Ez. Just auto-resolve everything :D
      Although one time, was playing Poland, and the Prussians decided to send out a full stack of cannons. They destroyed Austria, Bavaria and Denmark...and I came in and picked at what was left...

  • @marcuswillbrandt5901
    @marcuswillbrandt5901 3 года назад +2

    I love when the population pie chart tells you that there are no french people

  • @professorlayton134
    @professorlayton134 6 лет назад +11

    The land down under demands sacrifices

  • @DrNefariousHardCock
    @DrNefariousHardCock 5 лет назад +27

    ISP - *”Never get bored of Victoria 2”*
    If only it was so simple...
    Edit: Also Mexico took Texas back and iSorrow didn’t make a joke about it, wtf

  • @tomhuy6869
    @tomhuy6869 6 лет назад +76

    When you're so early, the video is in 360p

  • @gentleman6905
    @gentleman6905 6 лет назад +1

    When an intro is so intense that it turns you into a Australian and an Ironside PC at the same time, you know shit's about to go down

  • @jamwither9847
    @jamwither9847 6 лет назад +11

    2:30 woah! carl is still in spain???

  • @anonymousmammal1741
    @anonymousmammal1741 6 лет назад +2

    This is the first Victoria play-through where I really want to see what happens in HOI4. Like, I enjoy watching 'mega campaigns', they're okay, but I'm actually really interested in seeing what would happen next.

  • @thatguyrome6045
    @thatguyrome6045 6 лет назад +10

    Wow so I just became an Australian and conquered California, uh never thought Oregon would be apart of anything interesting. Welp now I gotta eat vegemite, shit.

  • @davigurgel2040
    @davigurgel2040 4 года назад +2

    10:12 that frame legit jumpscared me

  • @thesupertendent8973
    @thesupertendent8973 6 лет назад +7

    10:37
    The rebellion has started
    )))))

  • @TheSpecialJ11
    @TheSpecialJ11 4 года назад +1

    Abusing migration mechanics is OP if you're Australia or in the new world. In pop demand mod I was getting 3000 immigrants a day as Australia on average.

  • @odity2076
    @odity2076 6 лет назад +9

    My RUclips is glitched so this is the only video I can watch... over... and over... and over again.

  • @tyleryeet7878
    @tyleryeet7878 Год назад +1

    I keep coming back to watch these Vicky 2 videos…

  • @panfuza7898
    @panfuza7898 6 лет назад +12

    >be me
    >play as Ireland
    >colonize the majortiy of Africa
    >take over pretty much the entirey of the southern Mediterranean
    >take over Britain
    >become fascist
    >pretty much become potato Hitler

  • @jewpower42
    @jewpower42 6 лет назад

    Please doing Victoria 2. Glad to hear you love it. Don't get burnt out on it

  • @patrikcath1025
    @patrikcath1025 6 лет назад +6

    I kept getting ads telling me to visit Australia

  • @themk4982
    @themk4982 6 лет назад

    It's great that you're playing Victoria II in your spare time, it shows your soul hasn't completely shrivelled yet. A great video as always.

  • @FUNYYMANify
    @FUNYYMANify 6 лет назад +24

    Make a Minecraft server artillery only

    • @eqeqeqe9547
      @eqeqeqe9547 6 лет назад +4

      You mean tnt cannon only?

    • @FUNYYMANify
      @FUNYYMANify 6 лет назад +2

      @@eqeqeqe9547 yes exactly

  • @Miner49er5635
    @Miner49er5635 6 лет назад +1

    Finally a video the right way up! Thanks for focusing on your Australian Audience!

  • @powercore1987
    @powercore1987 6 лет назад +9

    Oh boy 360P IS HERE

  • @BiggsBababooey
    @BiggsBababooey 6 лет назад +1

    Im so glad you decided to keep going, love the series :)

  • @headsetsquirrel2581
    @headsetsquirrel2581 6 лет назад +6

    Pitch boi where you at?

  • @echo4428
    @echo4428 6 лет назад +2

    HE JUST SMILED AND GAVE ME A VEGEMITE SANDWICH

  • @mattk1690
    @mattk1690 6 лет назад +57

    Rimmy wants to know your location.
    Accept Deny

  • @sampaper7718
    @sampaper7718 6 лет назад +1

    7:41 "You've become the very thing you swore to destroy!"

  • @redarmycommittee9738
    @redarmycommittee9738 4 года назад +3

    Does anyone realise that Denmark is a great power and is above Austria in GP status

  • @Jan-rq8mo
    @Jan-rq8mo 6 лет назад

    11:42 When you wanna see Germanies Industry but the Queen holding a WII remote cockblocks you

  • @ageofsparta3264
    @ageofsparta3264 6 лет назад +6

    Do one division world conquest as El Salvador

  • @alyxvoorhees
    @alyxvoorhees 6 лет назад

    That may be, the greatest intro on all of youtube. 10/10!

  • @onesneakyboi9127
    @onesneakyboi9127 6 лет назад +12

    Cool math games at 400k

  • @ElectrolfRaul
    @ElectrolfRaul 6 лет назад +1

    Your Victoria 2 Videos are amazing and relaxing. I really love them, thank you for them!

  • @lonelyciv1771
    @lonelyciv1771 6 лет назад +19

    This is clearly a fictional mod because Australia doesn't exist :)

    • @khorps4756
      @khorps4756 6 лет назад

      TRUE

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 6 лет назад

      LonelyCiv I’m pretty sure the Australians annexed California and 300 thousand Americans perished trying to retake SoCal.

    • @frannywacura
      @frannywacura 6 лет назад

      Please tell me your joking

    • @frannywacura
      @frannywacura 6 лет назад +1

      If Australia doesn’t exist then I would be dead or floating in water right now

    • @madlanturn3878
      @madlanturn3878 6 лет назад +1

      ​@@frannywacura
      From one Australian to another I'll just say now that this is a copypasta and you probably haven't been on the internet much if you've never seen the "Australia isn't real" flying around.

  • @MultiAta123
    @MultiAta123 6 лет назад

    I love the Victoria 2 content. Gallipoli jokes get me every fucking time man.

  • @honeyitsyourgrandmawhatsas8429
    @honeyitsyourgrandmawhatsas8429 6 лет назад +57

    *U do not get dislikes the australians like the video*

    • @Wm7forthewin
      @Wm7forthewin 5 лет назад

      naa they see upsidown so they hate the video

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC 2 месяца назад +1

    I miss ISP Vic 2 so much...

  • @awildfilingcabinet6239
    @awildfilingcabinet6239 6 лет назад +4

    You know what would be radical? If iSorrows actually uploaded Hoi4 🤔
    Hoi 4 when?

  • @giuliapizzio5826
    @giuliapizzio5826 4 года назад +1

    iSorrowpruductions please play as Switerland in Victoria 2.

  • @just-a-silly-goofy-guy
    @just-a-silly-goofy-guy 6 лет назад +18

    Oops, accidentally made it upside down

  • @redcell9636
    @redcell9636 6 лет назад

    I used to think that Australians just walked around dodging cat sized spiders and kick boxing kangaroos.

  • @SQaz1245
    @SQaz1245 6 лет назад +9

    ISP, let Paradox know that if they announce a new game and it's not Victoria III, we don't care

  • @mago3694
    @mago3694 6 лет назад +1

    I think part of me died inside when iSorrow called Kangaroos "weird goats that stand upright"
    Sincerely, an Australian

  • @seanegan8150
    @seanegan8150 6 лет назад +3

    Do Sweden next or feel the wrath of IKEA

  • @Linesweeper
    @Linesweeper 6 лет назад +1

    You should do a collab with Drew where you send him your vic 2 file and he converts it to hoi4 just to keep him more confused than usual

  • @ManOverShield
    @ManOverShield 6 лет назад +5

    I always believe that intro will be more edgy than entire video lmao

  • @scottjanes8964
    @scottjanes8964 6 лет назад

    Victoria II has just become the new HOI4 on this channel

  • @IC3XR
    @IC3XR 6 лет назад +4

    10:12 that’s called an aboriginal

  • @darkimpqstqr
    @darkimpqstqr 6 лет назад

    6:59 the new kaiserreich update looks great!

  • @josephstalin6821
    @josephstalin6821 6 лет назад +203

    F for stan lee. Excelsior
    Thankus for the likes comrades

  • @command_unit7792
    @command_unit7792 6 лет назад +1

    I like these fictional history games

  • @gin3025
    @gin3025 6 лет назад +3

    Play the one and only good american nation desert

  • @cheesybutters5053
    @cheesybutters5053 5 лет назад

    As a person living in one of the pueblo states (New Mexico) I find it funny your obsession with pueblos in this video

  • @johnperetin5944
    @johnperetin5944 6 лет назад +4

    Play china yo, the suffering is what sustains us

  • @joshm7335
    @joshm7335 5 лет назад

    I'm Australian...and your Australia jokes are f**king killing me, here. They're just to d*mn funny! X'D

  • @walnzell9328
    @walnzell9328 5 лет назад +3

    53% British
    4% Australian
    24% Aborigine
    Australian and Aborigine are different?

    • @lodestarlondon8850
      @lodestarlondon8850 5 лет назад

      Well, Australians are like British people but only native (native being born there) to Australia while aborigine are the original people that live there. Think of how Americans are people who are native to the us but native americans are the people that lived there first. Of course, that's over simplifying it but I hope you get the picture.

    • @walnzell9328
      @walnzell9328 5 лет назад

      @@lodestarlondon8850 I meant that the Aborigine should be the only true Australians there. At least for a while until the British immigrants form their own culture. All the people of Australian culture there are probably British.

    • @lodestarlondon8850
      @lodestarlondon8850 5 лет назад

      @@walnzell9328 oh ok. I think that even though Australian culture as we know it today probably didn't exist in the 1830s, I think it's the only way for the game to handle it.

  • @notevenclown9304
    @notevenclown9304 6 лет назад +1

    watching your videos stoned is the best laughs of my life

  • @marechalbobby3815
    @marechalbobby3815 6 лет назад +18

    Australia lost the war to the emues :/

    • @bigrabii9470
      @bigrabii9470 6 лет назад +1

      At least they didn't collaborate with the Emu Reich.....

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 6 лет назад +1

      Birdolini Did Nothing Wrong!

    • @dosdoomguy2285
      @dosdoomguy2285 6 лет назад +1

      Needs to be a mod tbh

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 6 лет назад

      Well they fought and beated Indonesia in one war so that has to count for something right?

    • @gfr9109
      @gfr9109 6 лет назад

      Ah yes, the Great Emues War.

  • @junkoxeno_7734
    @junkoxeno_7734 6 лет назад

    When an extra shrimp on the bobby isnt enough

  • @cow1816
    @cow1816 5 лет назад +3

    Only once as Japan in vanilla vic 2 did I seen America turn communist.

  • @zevaronxz7288
    @zevaronxz7288 6 лет назад

    As a Australian I can can confirm giant spiders have representation in parliament

  • @vigosfilm4809
    @vigosfilm4809 6 лет назад +3

    Waiting for you to play the netherlands and conquer belgium imprison indonesia and the french😂

  • @Yaseenicus
    @Yaseenicus 6 лет назад

    I start the video and my headset is off, but I see all the plinks and the title and I realize exactly what this is

  • @TrainmasterGT
    @TrainmasterGT 4 года назад

    iSorrow: We’ll keep Victoria around until you guys get bored of it.
    Everyone: Coool
    Two years later: *WELCOME BACK TO VICTORIA 2 KAISERRECH*

  • @napoleonpetain7845
    @napoleonpetain7845 6 лет назад +3

    Play tatarstan arty only.

  • @DiamondCalibre
    @DiamondCalibre 6 лет назад

    More Victoria 2. It leads to a lot more interesting stuff since it's so detailed

  • @ethanrepublic
    @ethanrepublic 6 лет назад +3

    Why does your new music sound like Pokemon?

    • @Lukekho
      @Lukekho 6 лет назад

      Turtle beach

  • @Denarank1
    @Denarank1 6 лет назад +1

    For infamy reduction you can also use event 18540 so you don't have to save scum (it reduces infamy by 3)

    • @Dendarang
      @Dendarang 2 года назад

      It's also better idea to use the event than savescum because restarting the game resets the economy which results in many bankruptcies from minor and/or poor nations.

  • @danaldtrampf6717
    @danaldtrampf6717 6 лет назад +4

    Where is the 360p squad at?

  • @dolandaft8282
    @dolandaft8282 6 лет назад

    Thanks to this video I’m now getting Australian adverts

  • @dosdoomguy2285
    @dosdoomguy2285 6 лет назад +6

    Notification squad represent

  • @qwertyui137
    @qwertyui137 6 лет назад +1

    Just played a game as Persia and had a blast, lots of little guys around you that if you rush to westernize you can establish protectorate of and then industrialize like crazy (also imported that save into HOI 4 and stomped the russians)